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James Franklin FIRED by Penn State, Tua gets "too honest", LeBron James out a month | 10.13 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Talking about James Franklin.
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  Speaker 3: And could have talked more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have spent more of this time than I realized.
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  Speaker 1: making sense of what happened with James Franklin.
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  Speaker 2: And let me tell you this.
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  Speaker 1: So I get up this morning, tossing up some weights,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Maintaining this physique. And I
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  Speaker 1: came across some videos on Twitter and Josh Pate said
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  Speaker 1: something that I really hadn't quite thought about.
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  Speaker 2: James Franklin, in the.
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  Speaker 1: Last 42 games that he has coached, his team's record.
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  Speaker 2: Is 34 and.
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  Speaker 4: Eight.
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  Speaker 2: They just shit-canned him on Sunday. 34 and eight.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I have been trying to figure out where exactly
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  Speaker 1: to begin on this. I know where I ultimately want
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  Speaker 1: to land on this.
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  Speaker 2: So when this happens, I talk to Spencer.
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  Speaker 1: And Spencer is explaining to me some of the outright
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  Speaker 1: coaching calamities that Penn State had in the last three games,
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  Speaker 1: these games that got Franklin fired. Now, for those of
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  Speaker 1: you who don't pay but so much attention to Penn
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  Speaker 1: State or pay attention to college football in general, you
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  Speaker 1: may be thinking to yourself, hey, I heard people thought
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  Speaker 1: that Penn State was going to win the national championship
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  Speaker 1: to start the year.
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  Speaker 4: You are correct.
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  Speaker 2: You may have even.
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  Speaker 1: Heard people say, hey, I thought I heard that Penn
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  Speaker 1: State could win the national championship two and a.
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  Speaker 2: Half weeks ago. You would also be correct.
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  Speaker 1: You may remember people being like, well, damn, they lost
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  Speaker 1: that home in overtime to a top five team.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they can still pull it together, right?
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  Speaker 1: And you may be like, damn, I feel like that
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  Speaker 1: was 14 days ago.
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  Speaker 2: You would be correct.
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  Speaker 1: And I've never seen anybody get themselves fired faster than this. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you have examples, and I talk about this all the time, legendarily,
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  Speaker 1: when Arkansas fired Jack Crow because they lost to the Citadel.
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  Speaker 2: And they fired his ass on Sunday. I've talked about
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  Speaker 2: that before.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like what happened here is in a similar class,
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  Speaker 1: but in a different one. Franklin's problem is, and I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that 34 and 8, and we talk about this
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  Speaker 1: on the show a lot. A couple weeks ago, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about it on the show, and I made the
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  Speaker 1: point that, in fact, it was last week, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Franklin's in that zone where it is more interesting when
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  Speaker 1: his team loses than it ever is when they win.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I also said that about Deion Sanders
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  Speaker 1: and they got a win over a ranked opponent over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. And somehow I don't see my people marching
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  Speaker 1: in the streets and wearing red, black and green like
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  Speaker 1: they was two years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird. But anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Franklin got into that zone.
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  Speaker 2: And so you can put anybody's record.
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  Speaker 1: Up in college football, but because of the variance in
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  Speaker 1: what every game in college football is and what every
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  Speaker 1: game in college football means, it's not just about how
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  Speaker 1: many games you win. It's about who you beat. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just about how many games you lose. It's about
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  Speaker 1: who beats you. Franklin had gotten very, very deep into
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  Speaker 1: the zone. By the way, So far out of small
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  Speaker 1: sample that he was about to be in legitimate in
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  Speaker 1: is greater than 30 large sample on having a terrible
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  Speaker 1: record against top 10 opponents. I want to say it's
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  Speaker 1: four and 20 or four and 21. It's something in
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  Speaker 1: that zone. It's not hyperbole what I just gave you.
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  Speaker 1: It's that bad. It's not just the games you win
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  Speaker 1: and not just the games you lose.
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  Speaker 2: It's who it happens against.
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  Speaker 3: 4-21 against AAP top 10 opponents and 1-18 against top
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  Speaker 3: 10 opponents in the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 2: It can't be that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Now, does that mean you shit-cared your coach in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the year? Like, Ryan, you were around when
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  Speaker 1: LSU did this to Les Miles.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: But what was different, and you correct me if I'm
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  Speaker 1: wrong here on that season, They were set to fire
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  Speaker 1: Les the year before, and then there was this weird
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  Speaker 1: populist uprising.
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  Speaker 3: In the middle of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they won a game against Texas A & M.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody got sentimental about it. And then they said, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we'll bring Les back. And then you went out the
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  Speaker 1: next year, you lost at Lambeau Field and a couple more,
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  Speaker 1: and then it was.
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  Speaker 3: Just like, oh, okay, this is- He got fired at
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  Speaker 3: two and two.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Now, they waited till the end of the year to
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  Speaker 2: fire Ogeron, right?
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  Speaker 3: No, they told him in the middle of the year
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  Speaker 3: that this was your last year. He got it like
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  Speaker 3: kind of like a grace period, like, hey, buddy, you
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  Speaker 3: got to go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he got the rest of the year.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: There were reports that Ed Ogeron was bringing his girlfriends
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  Speaker 1: and their children to practice.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: There was a report that Ed Ogeron... accidentally tried to
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  Speaker 2: spit game.
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  Speaker 1: To the wife of a member of the board at
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  Speaker 1: Circle K in the parking lot.
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  Speaker 6: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was exactly Circle K, but
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  Speaker 1: I like to imagine that.
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  Speaker 3: It was Circle K. It was emotionally a Circle K,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, did you know they have Circle Ks
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  Speaker 2: in Vietnam?
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  Speaker 3: No, I did not. That's a travel show I would watch.
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  Speaker 2: Circle K is deep in Vietnam.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize the brand was that strong.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I'm out of your life.
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  Speaker 3: Do they have Piggly Wiggly too?
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  Speaker 2: Well, so the thing about Asia is intellectual property is
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  Speaker 2: but a notion.
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  Speaker 4: Got it, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Over there. Copyright infringement is wild, but I looked it up,
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  Speaker 2: as I recall, and it's actually a Circle K.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, I've never heard of somebody getting fired like
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  Speaker 1: this at this time, because what does it serve? And
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  Speaker 1: that's before we get to the $ 50 million buyout. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is what I am taking also from the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they shit-cared Franklin with this many games left. They
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  Speaker 1: were still in the running to get to the playoff
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  Speaker 1: two weeks ago. They suffered not one, but two inexcusable losses.
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  Speaker 2: Back to back.
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  Speaker 1: I have to assume that something happened. This doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: any sense.
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  Speaker 2: I want to be clear about this.
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  Speaker 1: People get fired because somebody wants to fire them. That's
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  Speaker 1: always the reason. No matter who it is, no matter
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  Speaker 1: what it is. People get fired because somebody wants to
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  Speaker 1: fire them. And clearly, people wanted to fire Franklin. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how well he got along with the people
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  Speaker 1: that make decisions there. I don't really have a great
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  Speaker 1: handle on his relationship with the fans. I do know
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  Speaker 1: that Penn State.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know exactly how.
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  Speaker 1: Good Penn State fans believe they should actually be. But
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  Speaker 1: every now and then, they should beat Ohio State and Michigan,
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  Speaker 1: at least when those two schools are good.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Every now and then, they
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  Speaker 2: should do that. It should not be a clear tier below.
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  Speaker 1: So I was talking to my buddy, Alan Kinney, who
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  Speaker 1: covers Oklahoma sports. And we were talking about the Gary
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs era of OU football, which none of you really
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  Speaker 1: remember too well. But Back when the NCAA did stuff
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  Speaker 1: like say you couldn't go on TV for a year
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  Speaker 1: and cut your scholarships to like 15 and wouldn't let
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  Speaker 1: you go to bowl games and all kinds of stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. They put the hurt to Oklahoma, really put
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  Speaker 1: the hurt to Oklahoma. Barry Switzer had to quit. And
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  Speaker 1: Gary Gibbs had the job for like five or six years.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't a bad tenure. It was an okay
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  Speaker 1: tenure considering the circumstances. And it gets forgotten that it
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  Speaker 1: was actually an okay tenure considering the circumstances. The problem
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  Speaker 1: was he couldn't beat Colorado and he couldn't beat Nebraska.
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  Speaker 1: Those nine wins you got don't matter that much if
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  Speaker 1: you can't.
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  Speaker 2: Ever beat those people. Ever. Like, Ryan, I think you'd
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  Speaker 2: agree with me.
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  Speaker 1: The thing that really got Les Miles fired was losing
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  Speaker 1: to Alabama five years in a row.
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  Speaker 3: It might have been more than that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was five or six.
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  Speaker 2: It was four years in a row, but it was
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  Speaker 2: five games. Yes. Because the first one was the national
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  Speaker 2: championship game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Where?
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't cross the midfield.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you don't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: I was there. Yeah, it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. I keep forgetting. That was at the Superdome.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys were just all there.
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  Speaker 3: We were all there. Yeah. We were all there. And
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  Speaker 3: you remember, they won in 03.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And they won in 07.
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  Speaker 3: Both in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they were.
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  Speaker 3: So people were prepared to be happy.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And they were not happy.
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  Speaker 1: LSU quietly had a Miami Hurricanes run where it becomes
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  Speaker 1: easier to win national championships when you play the championship
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  Speaker 1: game at the crib.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Neither here nor there, though.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 1: You got to win those every now and then. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I think a great example of this, like, again, this
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  Speaker 1: is the topic I love so much, which is like
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  Speaker 1: the relativity of college football. Everybody talks about how great
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  Speaker 1: a rivalry Auburn-Alabama is. And it's just great because those
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  Speaker 1: people are crazy. But these are not schools of equal footing.
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  Speaker 2: They're not. And I think Auburn fans understand that. I
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  Speaker 2: think they get that. But what you need, here's what
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  Speaker 2: can't happen at Auburn.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have multiple cycles where players stay there for
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  Speaker 1: four years and never beat Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: You see what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: It can't be that. You gotta get one every three
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  Speaker 1: to four years, right? You gotta be able to say
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  Speaker 1: you did something like that. At Penn State, when you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about Ohio State and Michigan, getting one out of
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  Speaker 1: the two of those has gotta be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more frequent than that. And on top of it, Penn
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  Speaker 1: State is a tier below Ohio State and always be.
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  Speaker 2: Like Penn State is not a tier one. They're a
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  Speaker 2: tier below Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: But if you were to try to ask me to
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  Speaker 1: explain why it is that Penn State shouldn't be better
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  Speaker 1: than Michigan, and.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, right now, they probably are better than Michigan, but.
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  Speaker 1: There's no argument for why they cannot be consistently better
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  Speaker 1: than Michigan. And there's no argument for why it is
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  Speaker 1: that they should not try to find a coach that
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  Speaker 1: puts them in a position.
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  Speaker 2: Where that happens. You see what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like, those are the questions that programs have to ask themselves.
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  Speaker 1: And it's in part because all of this is just
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  Speaker 1: about vibes, man. Like, maybe Penn State fans think they're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be winning national championships every year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're that stupid. But, you know, perhaps
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  Speaker 2: it is possible that that's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But the legacy of Penn State football is not built
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  Speaker 1: on their time in the Big Ten. It's built on
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  Speaker 1: their time as an independent. They've been in the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten now for over 30 years. They've won the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten something like 30 times.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, three times. Ooh, 30, that would be amazing.
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  Speaker 2: They've won it something like three or four times. Like,
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  Speaker 2: this is not.
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  Speaker 2: They're not that.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't do two inexcusable losses in a row
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  Speaker 1: and assume you're going to keep your job. If they
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  Speaker 1: wanted him to still be the coach... he would still
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  Speaker 1: be the coach, right? But one thing about taking an
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  Speaker 1: inexcusable loss immediately after an inexcusable loss, come on, man,
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  Speaker 1: that's tough on the people.
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  Speaker 2: I remember when Texas had to decide to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of Charlie Strong. Charlie Strong had an inexcusable loss at
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  Speaker 2: Kansas and they didn't fire him. And then they came
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  Speaker 2: out on Thanksgiving and got beat by a zillion points
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  Speaker 2: at home by, I think it was TCU.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do two inexcusable losses in a row. I
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  Speaker 1: just thought a $ 50 million buyout would insulate you in
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  Speaker 1: times like those. And buddy, I was wrong. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who the Penn State money is. That's another fun
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  Speaker 1: game in college football is where exactly does your money
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  Speaker 1: come from? Who makes these money decisions? Do you have
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  Speaker 1: one specific money man? I don't really know how it
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  Speaker 1: works at Penn State when it comes to all those things.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't... Ryan, there are two ways to look
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  Speaker 1: at this. Either one, losing at home to Northwestern was
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  Speaker 1: so abominable that they were like, we're going to fire
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  Speaker 1: him and then we're going to figure out the money
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  Speaker 1: from there.
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  Speaker 2: Or, number two, some people have made it known for
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  Speaker 2: a while, just.
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  Speaker 7: Say the word.
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  Speaker 2: We've got to just say the word.
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  Speaker 3: I also think it's instructive that the same day that
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  Speaker 3: Penn State has an unexcusable loss, Indiana goes to Autzen
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  Speaker 3: and beats... And I think those things are related.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to put a pin in that one because
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  Speaker 1: that's also the most fun part about this.
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  Speaker 2: They just rounded up 50.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when the NCAA tried to tear down Penn State's
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  Speaker 1: program because they believed the program turned an eye to
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  Speaker 1: a legacy of child molestation?
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  Speaker 2: You remember that?
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  Speaker 1: The big thing they tried to express was we need
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  Speaker 1: to tear down a culture and a world and an
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  Speaker 1: idea that football matters more than anything in the world, basically.
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  Speaker 2: And they did this whole spiel about that.
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  Speaker 1: That was in 2012 that they did this.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. It's 2025 and they are paying somebody $ 50.
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  Speaker 1: Million not to work there anymore. Guys, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that worked. I've also been reading things where people give
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  Speaker 1: the indication that Penn State is all on board with
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  Speaker 1: the private equity push in the Big Ten. Like all
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: of these things are going on at one time. Now
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: do you see why me and Ryan could have talked
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  Speaker 1: about this one hour? I could do a whole show
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  Speaker 1: about this because there's so many different things.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't gotten to, you know, the comparisons to Jimbo,
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  Speaker 3: who the next coach is.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know any of that.
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  Speaker 1: There's no time to get to that part. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: gotten to how good Penn State should actually be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I started talking about that and then wound up
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  Speaker 1: with something else because I don't have a, they finished
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  Speaker 1: in the top five, in the top 10, five times
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  Speaker 1: in the last 10 years.
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  Speaker 3: They were lost by a field goal in the semifinal.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what, 10 months ago?
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  Speaker 2: 10 months ago. They just lost in overtime in Oregon
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  Speaker 2: just a minute ago. And the coach just lost his job.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, a defensible move is just crazy
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  Speaker 1: because it.
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  Speaker 5: Costs $ 50 million.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe they need that private equity influx so
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  Speaker 1: they can go ahead and do this.
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  Speaker 2: There also has to be a bunch of other coaches
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  Speaker 2: shitting bricks right now.
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  Speaker 1: Because if somebody will pay $ 50 million to get that
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  Speaker 1: guy out of there, how serious are you about football?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember this. When Florida
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  Speaker 1: State fired Willie Taggart, I want to say it was
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of his second year, which was the
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  Speaker 1: fastest that I recalled anybody under those circumstances getting fired,
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  Speaker 1: which raised all kinds of questions about whether or not
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  Speaker 1: you did that because, well, basically... Clearly, it hadn't happened
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  Speaker 1: to no white people because it hadn't happened to nobody, right?
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  Speaker 1: But if you watch Willie Taggart, Florida State Seminole football, boy,
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  Speaker 1: they look like they needed to fire the coach.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: It had just never happened before. You see what I mean?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was understandable. You guys, if you
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: listen to me for a while, you know I say
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: anybody can get.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Fired for any reason. But it just... never happened before.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I want to say the week after, maybe two weeks after,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Chad Morris was in the second season of a disastrous
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: stint at Arkansas, and they lost that home 45 to
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: 19 to Western Kentucky, and they fired that man the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: next day. Once the precedent had been set, Arkansas.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Was like, all right, cool.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to go ahead and get his ass out
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: of here.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: It's got to be a bunch of people that are
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: shitting bricks right now. If they put together the 50
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: to get that dude out of there, and we don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: even know what their money be hitting on, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Mike Norvell, you might want to get your shit together
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: down there at Florida State.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Luke Fickle.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Luke Fickle. I think he's done in that town.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: All you people need to need to really, really, really, really,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: really get this going.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Now, what will be funny is Mike Loxley also is
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: on that list because his replacement.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Just became available.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: My guy Joe Giglio in North Carolina says that Franklin
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: has offset language in his contract. So if he gets
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: another coaching job, then boom. It decreases what Penn State
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: owes him. And all I'm saying is nobody wants Mike
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Loxley to get fired.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Badder than Penn State does.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody does. Because that's the job he's going to. That's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the job that he's going to take. But Ryan hit
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it where we start talking about people need to be nervous.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I believe that there is a Signetti effect in place.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And you're like, gee, guys, what is the Signetti effect?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Indiana didn't just go win this game against Oregon. If
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: you watched Indiana play last year in those two games
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: that they lost, which were to Ohio State and to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They were not in the same class as
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: those teams, right? They looked like what they were, which
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: was a feel-good story that got some scheduling breaks because
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: these big giant conferences is wide variance and who everybody
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: gets to play. They had some scheduling breaks. It got
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: them into the playoff and they got their asses kicked.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, right? They went up to Oregon and they were
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: on par. with them. Guys, I'm talking about the Indiana Hoosiers.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, them.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Went to Odson, which is, you know, one of the
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: toughest places to play. And they had won like 25
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: straight games there or something. And they were, they looked
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: like the same football team.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: It was not a gimmicky win by any stretch. Like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: they might have had the better quarterback and they might
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: have had the better offensive and defensive lines.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And by the way, this is one of those long
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: flight games. And I do think there's legitimacy to that
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: when people bring it up. One of those long flight games.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Especially flying out of Bloomington. Yes.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: They're playing this on the road and they went in
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: there and they punched them boys in the mouth. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: remember in 2006 in.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: The ACC, Wake Forest won the conference.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: About half the.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Conference turned over their coaches between that season and the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: next one. Because when Wake Forest, by far the smallest
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: school in the conference, with actual real live academic stuff
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: with their football team, if they could win the ACC,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: nobody had any excuses. If you look at what Duke
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: football has become in the last 20 years, this is
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: after Wake Forest won because suddenly, Duke football.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Had no excuses.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Nobody has any excuses after Indiana gets to where they are.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So we were looking at the standings to the Big
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Ten before this year. And before the show started, Luke Fickle, 0-3.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Jeff Brom at Purdue, 0-3. Greg Sciano at Rutgers, 0-3.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith at Michigan State, 0-3. All of you must
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: be shaking in your boots right now. Because you have
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: no excuse. And don't think for a second that that
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: did not offer some contribution to where James Franklin is
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: right now and where it is that he's going to be.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: The only question for Penn State is, you can get different.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: And I understand why you want different. I do not
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: know how much better you were going to get. I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: don't know if better is possible. Do not forget, James
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Franklin also won at Vanderbilt.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Where he is bad at coaching is in ways that
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you can't be bad and that people saw on television.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Ryan, did you know that Northwestern
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: is actually 4-2?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: No, but here's the thing. That's one of the great
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: things about college football is... no matter what your record is,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you're still your program.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: There are four and two.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: You're still Northwestern. Those runs for Duke, Sylvester Krug was
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: getting everybody honored in the SEC.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: But also, those four are over Western Illinois, the old UCLA,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: whom they only beat by three points. Or it may
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: have been like, yeah, I think it's the old UCLA.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: They only beat by three points. Louisiana Monroe lost.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And now this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: That wasn't going to be that still. They decided it
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: didn't feel good no more, man. You understand what I'm saying? Like,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: it didn't feel good anymore. And once it doesn't feel good,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: people make changes.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: And what is or is not about feeling good in
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: college sports, it really varies from school to school. So
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: they reached the point where they just wanted something different.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I just know, if you set $ 50.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Million on fire, firing your coach, who has won a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: lot of games, even if they weren't always the right ones,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you better nail the next hire.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, nailed. the next hire.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And by the way, in order for you to nail
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the next hire, it's definitely going to cost you eight
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: figures to get whoever that coach is to be in
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: line with you yourselves believe that your program is. You
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: are not in a position where you have, I think,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the luxury to do what most people should do under
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: circumstances like that at programs like these, which is to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: find the young up-and-comer who can have that job for
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: 20 years. I have long contended that In the history
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of this sport, very few have been better at hiring
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: coaches than Oklahoma. And when Oklahoma has gotten it right
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is you get a coach in the 30s and you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: ride that thing out.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Like, you can go look all over, man.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: That's the formula to trying to get it right is
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to find the guy that's young and in his mid-30s
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: or early 40s and that be your guy. Except those
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: guys typically need a couple years to get their foot in.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Ain't no time for that, clearly, with this job.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It's a tricky recruiting job because... They call it that
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: pistol tucky. You know what I mean? I wouldn't want
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to go there. The glory days of this program.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: They haven't won a national championship in 40 years.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Like what Penn State means to people my age, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily the same as it means to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like young people.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: This is.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And by the way, you try to come up with
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: money and you just spent out $ 50 million to fire
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the coach.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Like you have to get this right. And a big
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: part of why you have to get this right is
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you can't get it wrong.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Because if you do get it wrong, you can't afford
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: to fire this next guy.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Like you ain't just gonna be able to go past
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: the hat.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: And get another $ 50 million in order to get this done.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: And they did it because the vibes were that bad.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Good gracious.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: We might talk about this more later in the week.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I got to move on. Otherwise, this show be three hours. Wow, Ryan,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: was that 25 minutes?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Sure was. Sorry.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Didn't mean to do all that.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: We just got started.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: We really did.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: We really did.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: NFL action this weekend. It's unfortunate what happened with my
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I didn't go over to my buddy Nick's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: house to watch because I don't go over there for
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: night games because I'm old and I'd like to have
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the luxury of falling asleep on the couch if it
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: comes down to it. And, you know, I really feel
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like the refs were being a little bit petty. You know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: taking away a little touchdown on the wonderful trick play
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: early to start the game. But it's not a big deal, honestly,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that the Lions lost that because I just think the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Chiefs they're going to be just.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Fine, right? I think the ultimate moral of the story
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: here is they're going to be just fine.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: If Patrick Mahomes is completing 75% of his passes for
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: about eight yards in an attempt, they're going to be fine.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And then Rasheed Rice comes back.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And they're getting the guys back.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: What's his name? Xavier Worthy is out there doing it, right?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: He ran into Travis Kelsey and that hurt real bad,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: but they seem to be shaking that off.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: And they have a real chance for a get-right spot
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: next week because they play the Raiders, who are Bad.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: They are Chiefs.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: They are Chiefs. But no, no, no. The Chiefs have
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: pulled this together.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: It is the Ravens that are the ones who have
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: gone off the cliff. But the Chiefs have pulled this together.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: That is interesting to know. That is good to see
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: all of these things. A couple of things happened yesterday
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that I found to be interesting. I would typically like
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to start with the football part, right? You know, before
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: we get to the things that are just a little
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: bit messy.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So, okay, we could do that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you guys watch the
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: 49ers and the Bucs. I watched the 49ers and the Bucs.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: And I went into this game between the 49ers and
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the Bucs. And my question was, are either of these
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: teams really good?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Because they've been doing a lot.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Of squeaking by and I had no answer for whether
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: or not these teams were good. And then I watched
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: them play each other and they looked like they were
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: as good as each other, which gave me no answer
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: in terms of how.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Good they were as team.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I will say though, as long standing, long established Baker
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Mayfield skeptic, I kind of need to abandon that position. Also, Ryan,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I watched the Seahawks play the Jaguars earlier, and Sam
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Darnold is also making it difficult for me to remain.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: On my square about these guys.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, at least Sam Darnold has Jackson, Smith, and Jigba,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: who's having one of the better receiving seasons in the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: NFL through six weeks.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Every one of Baker's receivers gets hurt, and he's still
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Chucking the ball he is but you know what though
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: i want to give some credit to these receivers because
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: baker's not throwing them open right these dudes are running
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: they were running out there yesterday by themselves because san
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: francisco as is their want is starting to fall apart
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: physically again that was another part about what's happening with
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the lions is and this seems to be happening to
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: them every year too this super physical style of play
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and then you guys are hurt Yeah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: It's all good to be, you know, physical and stuff
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: until you don't have any more safeties.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the line between the hammer and the nail is, like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: it's really narrow in the way that these things go.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: But Baker's getting it. He is getting it done.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: He looked like college Baker Mayfield. And for those of
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you who don't remember what that was... I want to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: be very clear with you about something.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: He was that guy.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: And the big part of him being that guy was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: he was as accurate as any.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: College quarterback I've ever seen.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Say it again.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: We'll take prime Drew Brees.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Like has the accuracy, but also could chuck the ball
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: over the top.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: With more mobility.
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Like a better ability to get outside the pocket. Like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he wasn't Michael Vick.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Right. But he could do enough to get it done.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: And when he got to the league, I always thought
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that he had like a college level of athleticism to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: do that stuff. but not enough to really get it
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: done in the NFL. And no, I mean, right now
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: he looks like that guy. And look, Godwin's hurt. Mike
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Evans is hurt. The new Ohio State receiver, I can't
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: even use their names anymore. Abuka, I believe, is his name.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: He's hurt. And he was throwing it to a.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Guy that pre-draft measurable was 154 pounds. Bo Nix's daddy
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: adopted him when they was in high school. And he
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: was a seventh round pick. Like, He's doing it. I
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: don't think there's any way around that. But I'm going
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to tell you right now, if they're the team that
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: looks like they're going to wind up with the best
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: record in the NFC, that bodes well for my Detroit
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Lions because I just don't think they got it. Something
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: else also that happened that we ain't really have a
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: chance to talk about because it happened after we did
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: our Friday show. But after the Eagles lost to the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Giants and Buddy I don't know how to explain this
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: here to you, but the local Caucasian population is really
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: excited about this Jackson Dart cam scatter bowl sort of thing.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Like they going to be on Saturday night live.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think you understand if they can both just
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: be a little bit competent, just ride it out for
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the rest of the year.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think you understand how much money them boys
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: go make.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: They like a comedy team, but they also, you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: get Jackson Dart wear a chain and be dancing and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: scatter bowl play running back.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Like, You hear me. But anyway,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: they came to A.J.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Brown and they asked him about that players only meeting
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that the Eagles had.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And A.J. Brown was like, I don't recall. I don't
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: recall no players only meeting.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: He basically played the fifth.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: But then he explained it and was like, it wasn't
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a meeting. We just talked in the parking lot. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: gained a lot of respect for AJ Brown, by the way,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in that moment, because he tried to be cool about it.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And then everybody called him a liar. And he had
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: to be like, dog, it wasn't no meat. He just
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: talked to the parking lot.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: What I like about AJ Brown is he has made
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: his position clear. The exact, he has never changed his
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: position on this. All he wants is the, is the ball.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Even if not the ball, it can't be what it is.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Winning, losing, no matter how successful, what do we have
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to get better at?
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Passing.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Specifically passing to me.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: And he's right.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not wrong.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: The big part of it is right. But I do
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: love that he is.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Not allowing the results to interfere with his beliefs about
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the process.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: It is process over results.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: This is what it's supposed to be. It's not what
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: we're doing. But when he said, nah, dog, all we
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: did was talk in the parking lot.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: Guys.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: The Nick Sirianni era of the Eagles is the most
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: up and down thing that I can possibly think.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Of, okay?
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You have had two seasons where they have gone to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: You have had a season where they won a Super Bowl.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: You have one season with an epic collapse.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And this was after going to the Super Bowl. And
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: then this year, where nothing seems to feel good. Everything
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: about them seems to be off. I've never seen a team.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Where this is the way that it goes. And Ryan,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I had forgotten about this. In his first year, through
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: nine games, they were three and six.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: And you have to remember coming off that first year
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: where he gave the worst opening press.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: That did happen.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: So like, you're starting with Like legitimately looked like a
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: deer in headlights. And he's been to two Super Bowls.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And then whatever is happening this season.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: What is it with this team? But it can't be
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: like this all the time.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Like every year cannot be an adventure. It can't.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: And you don't want it where every time somebody talks
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: in front of a microphone, it feels like anything is possible.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Speaking of which, I have seen many examples of players
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: getting coaches fired. I cannot think of an example where
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I felt like a player got everybody fired, including himself.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: by what he said to the media, and he didn't
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: do it on purpose. I don't know how many times
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: any of you guys have seen Tua Tungabailoa behind a microphone,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but if there's anybody that needs to learn some lessons
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: from Shadua Sanders, it's this young man. He need to
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: get in front of the microphone and just go like this.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: He just need to turn into, is it Marcel Marceau?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Is that the, you know what I'm saying? The mind?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: He need to get his ass in the box because
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: him talking is bad news.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: After this game, this.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Man told everybody, and they lost to the Chargers. By
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the way, a dignified loss, except for the fact that
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: he turned the ball over three times.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Which he owned, by the way.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Tua got out here talking about how they have players-only meetings,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and people come late to the players-only meetings, and sometimes
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they no-show the players-only meetings, and he's like, we need
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: to decide whether those are mandatory or not, or whatever
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: it is, and.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Brian, you correct me if I'm wrong, but if the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: meetings are players only, ain't he the manager?
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: He's certainly supposed to be.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Like, aren't these his decisions?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: What?
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Why did you tell us that?
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Tua is learning the very hard lesson is we only
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: want so much honesty.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Yes. Like from his comments about, you know. He clearly
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: was not over the Tyreek thing all year.
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: No.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: That was clearly bothering him. And then he gets out
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: and he's basically, yeah, we're not run very well. And
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: it starts with leadership.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: It starts with leadership. You're talking about one or two people. Yes.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Your boss or three people. Your boss. Your boss's boss. Yourself.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And to be fair.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I do think he thinks he's talking a bit about himself.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: And on one hand, you give him credit for accountability.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: On the other hand, you smack him upside the head
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: and tell him to be quiet. Everybody has to go.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: He just basically said, don't nobody listen to me. Don't
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: nobody listen to the coach. And it's the GM that
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: put all these dudes together in the room at one time.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Everybody has to go.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: This show is being recorded on Monday morning.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: It is currently 844 a.m.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: It will not surprise me in the least if by
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the time you hear this, the coach and the GM
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: are gone and they tell Tua that his hip is
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: too bad to play because I don't think he.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Could come back next year.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: He can't.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: It can't be this. It can't sound. It can't.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Feel like this man this is what I've been trying
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to explain if you're not gonna be good enough you
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: gotta at least make it not feel terrible this is
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: what we thought was going on at least with Kevin
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Stefanski right like I felt like with the Browns the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: team was bad but everybody kind of understood the trick
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: bag they were in and I thought this Stefanski had
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: done a good job of making it not feel At least,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you're a Browns fan.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It don't never feel good.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: But I thought he had done a decent job of
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: not making it feel so abjectly terrible. And remember, we
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: were here and we were talking about on this show,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I was surprised that there had not been no heat
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: put on his seat. And Ryan, I owe that man
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: an apology because apparently he's getting.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: A little toasty.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: That's another person who might be, by the time you
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: hear this, might not have a job.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yo, everything just feels tight, man. I have a question
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: for you. And we ain't going to make no social
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: video out of this because, you know, it could get weird.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: But I'm asking this sincerely. You wonder if the times
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that we live in are making everybody a little antsy
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and making them do this stuff. Yes.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: The short answer is do I think that lack of
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: attention spans and people getting bad news fed to them
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: all the time and wanting to– yes. The short answer
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: is absolutely.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Yo, like this is– everything– Stefanski, when I was saying that,
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: I wasn't saying he should be fired.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about it, but what the hell
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: is he supposed to do? Like, like....
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I have no answers in so many places but with
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: mcdaniel it's not supposed to look like this it's not
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: supposed to feel like this i think my man rod
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: said he looks shorter at every press conference now every
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: time you get up there you.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Look shorter shorter and smaller and yeah he.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Was already up against the fact that they don't look
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: like no football coach.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: It's tough.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Whether it's right or wrong.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: And let's be honest, he's out of here going one
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: in five in Capri's.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. Like he doesn't, you know
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: what that looks like? The coach of a one in
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: five football team.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: If you want to look like a, you know, uh,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: like a back-end engineer at one of these tech firms.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: That's great. But you got to, you know, be around 500.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, no.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: They've just completely ruined the vibe. Like, can you imagine
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: being on that team?
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: No.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Like, why would you feel like we about to win
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: any games right now? Like, I felt good for the
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Cardinals that the Cardinals, because I told you, I wouldn't
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: have been surprised if their season fell apart after that
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: thing happened with Gannon.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It did not.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Right. Like they they pulled that together.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: They did not win the game against the Colts, but
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: they played like a team that still had it together.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: The Ravens look like a team that's done. Lamar Jackson,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: no Lamar Jackson. That's not the point. They look like
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a team that is cooked. But nobody and I repeat,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: nobody look like they down bad quite like the Dolphins are.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
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  Speaker 3: couple of quick stories from the weekend. After we recorded
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Friday's show, LeBron James is going to be out three
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: to four weeks with sciatica. There are reports from David Miniman.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: He is monitoring the Lakers situation while he misses the
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: beginning of the year. Bo, what are your thoughts?
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: First of all, things I learned.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: It is the sciatic nerve and sciatica is an aggravation
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: of the sciatic nerve. where I thought that sciatica was
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: simply people mispronouncing sciatica.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: That is number one.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Whenever a player gets an injury you've never heard of,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: it's not a good sign.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yes. Well, see, number two, that's the thing. I have
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: heard of sciatica.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: My father had sciatica when I was younger, but he
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: was 55.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Now, maybe young people suffer from sciatica. However, this has
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: got a whiff of DNP old.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: This feels like DNP old for LeBron.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Number three, Ryan Barry didn't say the best part.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Dave McMenamin came out with a report, and I like Dave,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: but you need to understand that when Dave covered the
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers, LeBron had three guys in the media that
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: he referred to as his three wives. I think it
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was McMiniman, Chris Haynes, and Joe Varden. That is no
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: shade to those guys, but LeBron said that out loud
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: in front of people.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: That was 10 years ago, and McMiniman moved his life
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: from Cleveland to Los Angeles, and that was eight years ago.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more like McManaman moved his life from Los
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Angeles to Cleveland. And then thank God he didn't have
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to do that anymore. But anyway, I'm just saying Dave
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: McManaman is a reporter who has a standing relationship with LeBron.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: McManaman comes out and says, hey, man, you got to wonder, right,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: if LeBron's not going to be out with this sciatica
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: and watching the Lakers, seeing how they perform, and then
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: making decisions.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: About what he's going to do.
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: You don't run nothing no more, man. He going to
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: decide if he wants to go somewhere else. You going
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: to wind up getting traded to Milwaukee.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Like, what is.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? This isn't... I don't know
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: why he doesn't see.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: And I mean... Look, we all got different interpretations of
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: what we want to do or whatever.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: But the only thing LeBron James needs to be thinking about,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, is retiring as a Los
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Angeles Laker.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: And on one hand, I admire.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Athletes who don't care about going outside.
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Like you are a competitor and you just want to
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: keep going until you can't. And you are willing to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: look bad. Like you are not embarrassed by being out
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: here looking bad. On one hand, I get that. And
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: there is truly a respect to be had for it.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: But the only way for a man in LeBron's position
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to guarantee that he don't go out saying is to
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: announce before a season, you go and do your tour
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and just go on about your business.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: This approach is not the way to wind down your career.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Like I don't.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to play the way
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: that he wants it to play. That I'm going to
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: find another team to play for? No, man.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: There's nowhere else to go.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: The idea to me that there's going to be some
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: team that's going to give up the world for a
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: man that's got a sciatica and is going to turn
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: 41 years old in December and is in his 23rd
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: year in the NBA. How much are you willing to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: give up to pay LeBron James $ 50 million a year?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Especially, and this is not even accounting for how much
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: harder it is to make these trades now.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: The rules, like, if you, like, LeBron James is not
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: going to, let's say, the Charlotte Hornets, right? So it's
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: teams that, you know, have a better chance to theoretically
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: win the title than the Lakers and can pull off
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: a move. And that list is a short list.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Well, he's aged out of defense, number one. And number two.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Part of why Bill Belichick doesn't have a job in
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the NFL is that if you were going to bring
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in, you got to turn the whole thing over, right?
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Like that's what Carolina did when Bill Belichick was there.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Clearly the terrible results, but you had to be willing
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: to turn the whole thing over. You don't have to
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: turn the whole thing over for LeBron, but you're turning
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: a lot over for LeBron. Like if you, to make
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: it worth it for you to get LeBron, you got
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: to have something already going. Can LeBron just fit in.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: To whatever it is? These are the things you have
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: to ask yourself.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Like I don't have the answer for that necessarily, but,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But you have to ask this and putting.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Out the word of maybe I want to go somewhere else. Brother,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: they don't care. It is Luca time over there. I
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: don't think they ever liked you that much in the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: first place.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: They don't care.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Just put some tussing on it. And hope you get better.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's it. That's what you got.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: All right. On Friday, a judge dismissed Drake's defamation lawsuit
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: against UMG and Kendrick Lamar. The judge ruled that Lamar's
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: lyrics accused Drake and his associates of being certified pedophiles
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: were non-actual opinion and not considered defamatory. Bo, your thoughts?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: The judge basically told him it was a rap battle, fool.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Can this finally be over now? You know, like I've
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: had enough.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: It was a good time.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: It was a fun year. It was a great time.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: It was a great year. And we are already in
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: like into month 18. Right now of this. No, no, no, no, no.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: It's been real. It's it's please let it be over.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Like for Drake, this is. I don't I don't know.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: It's over for him. It's a different kind of over.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Right. That I think we all would have to agree with.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's a different kind of over. But I will tell
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: you this. I do miss that beef. And for no
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: other reason, their rap was really exciting. You know what
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: gets people excited now? A Mobb Deep album just came out. Now, granted,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: maybe that's just the excitement of people my age, right?
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe the youngsters have things that they're excited about that
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: But man, give me something, baby. Give me something.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I would take a classic Drake album now.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I think that do you think do you think that's
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: on the table you think that's.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Over hell no hell no i mean look i just
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: i just said that i said i'd take one if
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: we had it.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Talk about some people who are about to turn 40
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: yeah i don't i.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Don't participate in that behavior that i say he turns
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: 40 this month next year.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: This month, next year. And I just feel like he
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: has no idea. I can't imagine how lost in the
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: wilderness he is right now. All right.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: And finally, Rolling Stone listed their top 250 songs of
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: the century so far. Number one, Missy Elliott, Get Your
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Freak On. Bo, what'd you think of this list?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't look at the list, to be honest,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: because I knew all I saw was that was number one.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't know people cared that much about that song.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: That was what struck me. It's a good song. I
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: understand its charm and appeal, but also I admit, I
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: look at Missy Elliott and all the music that Missy
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and Timberland Circle did, that circle of people, I view
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: their music, not everything Timberland did. Things Timberland did for
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: other people, I view differently than this.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: But Missy, Timberland, and Magoo.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I view that music as very particular to the era
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that it was in. I don't think of that as enduring, lasting. Like,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Get Your Freak Out is like, oh, something you put
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: in a commercial. You know what I mean? But I
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: never looked at that or thought of that as the
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: kind of music that you put on the top of
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a list like this. I just wanted to put this
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: topic in here so everybody knows and the people who
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: know me know what I am going to say.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: There is no doubt.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: For me that the best song of the 21st century,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: is the greatest single in the history of rap music,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: and it is Outkast's B.O.B., Heartstop.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, we've opened up the voicemail line. Another
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: couple of good ones. Here's our first.
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: Hey, Bo, I'm calling from Houston, and I just got
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: to ask, at what time did you know it was
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: time to bring it all home? Because I'm looking in
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: the mirror right now and I'm debating it. Big fan
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: of the show, man. I appreciate.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: It.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: So I was 32 and I was living in North Carolina.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: And it was becoming pretty clear to me that my
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: days were numbered and I should probably come home. I
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: used to be able to go two weeks in between haircuts.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: And then I had to start going one week in
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: between haircuts because at the temples.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I could really only grow a week's worth.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: And so then we get around it and it wasn't
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: really like doing the thing.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: But you know what? I didn't want to come home.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted to stay out.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I was having a good time because I knew that
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: once you was home, you couldn't really come back outside.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: So I was OK with it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I fully decided to come home when I moved to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Miami and I realized that I was going to have
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: to find a new barbershop, which meant that I was
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: probably going to have to listen to a lot of
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: really stupid barbershop conversation and that somebody was eventually going
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: to recognize me from the television and make it even worse.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: And so I didn't want to go to the barbershop
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: no more. So I came home. I also came to
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: understand that in Miami, there's a good chance that Joe
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Barber could be from one of the Miami countries. But
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: used the N-word as though he was from Miami Gardens.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: And I didn't want to participate in that game.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I did not.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Our Latino brothers in Miami is a little loose with it.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: When I say our Latino brothers, I don't mean the ones,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: like I ain't talking about the white Cubans. I'm talking
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: about the Puerto Rican, Dominican, Colombian, Venezuelan type situation. Man,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know who told them that they was allowed,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: but it was a whole lot of them, which made
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: it very difficult to just be like, okay, I'm going.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: To take this all. Now I'm just not going to
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: do this. I'm just not going to come to the barbershop.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be a lot, especially every week. That
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: transitions very surprisingly well into this next one.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: What's good, Bomani? This is JD from Boston. I heard
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: you were having a homie have a Brian on and
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: wanted to get y'all thoughts on this thing. So when
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: I was a shorty, my go-to order at the ice
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: cream truck was vanilla cone with jimmies. So vanilla, soft
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: serve ice cream, cone, chocolate sprinkles. That was the order.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: You say jimmies in Boston or Massachusetts, folks know what
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: you're talking about. So as an older man, I got
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: curious and wondered, what are jimmies? What is the term
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: derived from? So I spoke to my grandfather about it.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: And what he shared with me is that jimmies refer
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: to black folks. If you think about my order, it's
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: this white entity, my vanilla ice cream with chocolate sprinkles.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Fast forward, 2025, I go into the ice cream spot.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: On the board, chocolate jimmies. So just curious if, you know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Mahoney Howard has come across this or you've come across
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: this or, you know, is it just that Boston is
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: uniquely racist, which it's likely that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Peace.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Look, I try to be careful about these things. We
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: will ask Howard about the chocolate jimmies. Ryan might need
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you to just send him the voicemail so he could
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: give his answer.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I'll forward it along.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: But if you're asking me, Boston is uniquely racist is
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: always the odds-on favorite. And I contend Boston is not
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: necessarily that much more racist than other places, but it
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: is more aggressively racist than most places, and they are
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: far more willing to fight.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, here's our last one. Hey, what's up, Bo?
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: What's up, Ryan? It's CB from Brooklyn.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: Something came across my radar this morning that kind of
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: threw my day off, and it was Dan Wetzel talking
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: about how John Calipari and others are going to start
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: getting booster insurance, which as a lifelong college football fan
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: and just a fan of sports in general, sounds absolutely
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: insane to me. So the boosters will be able to
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: get insurance on the NIL deals that they're paying out
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: to players, et cetera. I believe Lloyd's of London is
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: backing this. But to me, this kind of sounds like
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: getting itemized receipts from prostitutes. I thought y'all were in
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: this for the experience, not for the ability to go back,
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: get your money back, etc. So would love to hear,
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: you know, what you think about it. If you think
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: this is the way things should be going or the quote,
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: Michael Irvin, we're losing recipes.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Thanks, bro.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Ryan, I think we need to book Dan Wetzel. I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: had no idea.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: That this existed. And then I look it up and
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the quote from Cal.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: What if we had just given him a million dollars
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: and then he got injured and was lost for the season?
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: What would the person who gave that million dollars feel?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: How would you go back to that person and ask
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: for more money? So we talk about private equity.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: We try.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Wow. Right now, this is hilarious, so perhaps it could
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: be fun. But I do love the idea of a
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: booster trying to come to the player and get his
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: money back.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a 90-day guarantee. It's a warranty.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: But the problem with this to me is the idea
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: of the booster insurance is interesting.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: But what it's also going to require is.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Like some medical invasiveness about the players, right? What are
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the terms? How exactly does this work? But what it
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: is is somebody came up and was like, oh, I
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: got an idea for something. I can sell people. And
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: then they came in with, let's see how claimable these
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: policies are. Good luck trying to get your money back
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: on your tricking insurance.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: From 19-year-old college basketball players.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good luck, homie.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: I promise you as soon as they get that money,
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: that money is... I don't know where it's going, but
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: it's not coming back to you.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: So you think this insurance company is going to be
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: paying out on these policies?
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine how fine the fine print is on this?
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 58:23
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• 58:29
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• 58:29
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• 58:42
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