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  Speaker 1: Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor, Ryan Brown, live. The next round
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  Speaker 1: is on now. Presented by Hard Rock Bet, it is
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  Speaker 1: the next round on Sporting State. We appreciate you joining
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  Speaker 1: us for another show, Thursday edition of the show. Jim
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  Speaker 1: Dunaway has started his European vacation. He will be gone
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  Speaker 1: for a week. He's going to be staring at Lance
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  Speaker 1: the whole show. Look at that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very Clark Griswold-like. I can't wait to hear about
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  Speaker 2: the adventures over there. I know he is terrified about
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  Speaker 2: this flight over the Atlantic Ocean. I would say that
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the things that I always thought about
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  Speaker 2: before I went to Europe, and I think it's one
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  Speaker 2: of the things I was hesitant about going over to Europe.
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  Speaker 2: And I finally just got to a point, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, If you go down in the Atlantic, you
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  Speaker 2: go down in the Atlantic.
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  Speaker 1: It's your time to go.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a lot you can do about it. But
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you that 10 milligram edibles really, really
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  Speaker 2: help a flight.
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  Speaker 1: Do they? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I have had other people that flip out and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, I get way too paranoid. And when you
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  Speaker 2: get paranoid at 30,000 feet, that can be a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I found it to be quite the ease
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  Speaker 2: when I travel now.
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  Speaker 1: That is, air travel has never really bothered me. I
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  Speaker 1: kind of enjoy it, actually. I just like the I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't love fighting the crowds in the airports,
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  Speaker 1: but there's something about being in an airport. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: This is kind of a weird thing I'm about to say,
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  Speaker 1: and I accept that it's weird, but I'm walking next
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  Speaker 1: to somebody. I'm flying to Los Angeles, and I'm walking
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  Speaker 1: next to somebody that's flying to Paris, and we pass
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  Speaker 1: somebody that's flying to Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just find that fascinating. No, I do too. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of weird to say.
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  Speaker 2: And I also find it fascinating that you can walk
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  Speaker 2: by an airport bar at 7 in the morning and
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  Speaker 2: you never judge anybody drinking.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. You never know what time it is in
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  Speaker 1: their body. Yeah, you have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: And you really, all these different walks of life and
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's a little chaos there. The people that
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  Speaker 2: are traveling for work might not be in the best mood,
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  Speaker 2: but you do have a lot of people that are traveling,
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  Speaker 2: going on vacations.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell the difference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have, like, just so many different experiences
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  Speaker 2: going on. So I'm right there with you. I think
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  Speaker 2: airports are fascinating. What I don't like now is the actual,
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  Speaker 2: once you get in that tube and how aggressive everybody
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  Speaker 2: has gotten, and on the other side, how bad the
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  Speaker 2: customer service is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there are some negatives. I do also like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're walking to your gate, and I walk
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  Speaker 1: past the gate, and it's like, El Paso, Texas. I
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  Speaker 1: got on that flight. I just wonder what I would
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  Speaker 1: do if I got to El Paso, Texas. And then
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  Speaker 1: you walk by and you're like, Seattle, Washington. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know why that fascinates me, but
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  Speaker 1: I walked down the terminal.
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  Speaker 4: It's like a home alone sort of deal.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost like, it's like, all right, stay
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  Speaker 1: with me.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: In the future, when we have teleportation, right? So I've,
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  Speaker 1: I've made a prediction about teleportation before that when teleportation starts, Tyler,
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  Speaker 1: you're the youngest person up here. I still think you
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  Speaker 1: possibly remember this. You may not. Your mom and dad
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  Speaker 1: were probably paying your cell phone bill. But all us
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  Speaker 1: olds up here will remember when you first got a
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  Speaker 1: cell phone, you only had so many minutes you could use.
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  Speaker 1: You had to buy minutes. Do you remember that? Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember that part?
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  Speaker 4: I remember that being a thing, but by the time
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  Speaker 4: I had, like, a phone I used regularly.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember that? I do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the worst was when you travel.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you had roaming charges.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the roaming charges. I remember the first time I
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  Speaker 2: went to New York and I got back and my
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  Speaker 2: bill was like $ 600 for a weekend. I'm like, my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you had minutes and you paid for so
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  Speaker 1: many minutes, like pay for 300 minutes. And if you
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  Speaker 1: went over your minutes, you got charged. You know, now
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  Speaker 1: you pick up the phone.
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  Speaker 2: Oh crap.
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  Speaker 1: Pick up the phone. You call anybody, throw it around.
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  Speaker 1: I do that all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Apple care.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's going to happen with teleportation. Initially, when we
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  Speaker 1: start teleporting, you're going to have so many miles you
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  Speaker 1: can teleport.
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  Speaker 2: My fear with teleportation, and I'm sure you've never seen
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  Speaker 2: the movie, and I know you have, David Cronenberg's The Fly.
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  Speaker 1: Never seen it.
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  Speaker 2: Where Jeff Goldblum is just basically teleporting from one pod
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  Speaker 2: to the next, where you pick up a different element,
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  Speaker 2: like a fly, and then you're fused together. There's going
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  Speaker 2: to be so many complications with teleportation. There are.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be tricky. I don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: the first one in.
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  Speaker 4: Or another movie reference, in Harry Potter, when they learn
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  Speaker 4: how to teleport– They're students, so they don't know how
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  Speaker 4: to do it properly, and sometimes you lose an.
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  Speaker 1: Arm or a leg, and you've got to get it
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  Speaker 1: right attached.
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  Speaker 2: You know what would be the most fascinating or one
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  Speaker 2: of the fascinating elements of teleportation? You know, the businessman
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  Speaker 2: back to Paris, you know, he's on business in Paris.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: His wife thinks he might be cheating. And then she's just.
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  Speaker 1: Able to teleport immediately to a hotel bar. She'll be
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  Speaker 1: there in seconds.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you really would have to be on your toes
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  Speaker 2: all of the time if you have anything nefarious going
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  Speaker 2: on with the era of teleportation.
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  Speaker 1: But see, there are going to be issues early in teleportation.
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  Speaker 1: But take yourself back to the early 1900s when Orville
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  Speaker 1: and Wilbur landed the plane for the first time. And
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  Speaker 1: they were like, all right. We're flying over there. Who
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  Speaker 1: wants to go next? Do you think everybody's like, oh, me, me, me, me?
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  Speaker 1: Or are you like, I'd kind of like to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, look, air travel.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see it landed a couple times before
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  Speaker 1: I jump on it.
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  Speaker 2: We still have disasters, you know. That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Knock on wood, it's not often, but they still happen.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's going to happen if we ever get
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  Speaker 2: to teleportation. So you truly believe this will happen?
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  Speaker 1: I think at one point, I don't know in our lifetime,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have teleportation.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it can happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we'll have teleportation. Now, my point was
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  Speaker 1: going to be.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how we, like, you break down the
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  Speaker 2: whole body and then you're able to put it back together.
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  Speaker 5: Science.
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  Speaker 1: Science. It's all science. Very complicated.
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  Speaker 4: What about a large system of, like, tubes, like at
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  Speaker 4: the bank?
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  Speaker 1: You know, like the, what are they, pneumatic tubes?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just hop in a little elevator pod sort
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  Speaker 4: of deal and put it in your location.
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  Speaker 2: I get motion sickness to begin with. I can't imagine
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  Speaker 2: being tubed somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be rough.
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  Speaker 2: Somewhere far.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be rough. But what I was going to say
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  Speaker 1: is I think in my mind teleportation will be like
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  Speaker 1: the airport. Like I'll walk through and the El Paso
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  Speaker 1: teleportation is right there and I just step through that
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  Speaker 1: door and I'm in El Paso.
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  Speaker 2: You have brought up El Paso.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. It was just the city that
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  Speaker 1: came to mind.
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  Speaker 2: Have you had a dream about this?
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: Because it is an absolute shithole.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been. I don't really desire to go. When
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  Speaker 1: I was talking about walking through the airport and I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking of seeing a city on a screen, El
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  Speaker 1: Paso was on that screen.
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  Speaker 2: And you know on the other side of El Paso?
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  Speaker 3: Juarez?
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  Speaker 1: Juarez. Is that desirable?
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  Speaker 2: No, no. Not a vacation spot? One of my best
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  Speaker 2: friend's son was stationed in El Paso.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL will probably be playing a regular season game
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  Speaker 1: there before long.
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  Speaker 3: Probably.
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  Speaker 2: But they would sit up, and this is recently.
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  Speaker 1: It's close with everything going on in Paris right now.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, yeah. He said it was like
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  Speaker 2: 4th of July in Juarez. You would just see firefights.
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  Speaker 2: You would just see it at night all the time.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to get beheaded, go to Juarez. So
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  Speaker 2: can I do that any weekday, or does that have
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  Speaker 2: to be a weekend? Oh, I think you can go
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  Speaker 2: any time.
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  Speaker 4: Any day?
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  Speaker 1: I think you need to make an appointment. To get beheaded?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm calling about a beheading appointment, please. Sir, could
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  Speaker 1: you hold? You're right, Tyler. Like, we're playing this game
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  Speaker 1: in Paris, and I don't know what they're writing about.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to read it, and it made no sense
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 4: I read some of it, and all I could really
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  Speaker 4: understand was that it's a student protest.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So it starts about 1 in the afternoon. Like, uh.
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  Speaker 4: The way I understood it is like when French students
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  Speaker 4: apply to schools, it's not like here where like I
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  Speaker 4: apply to Auburn and then I get accepted to Auburn.
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  Speaker 4: And then once I'm in Auburn, I might apply for
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  Speaker 4: the film program because they might have separate requirements.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 4: You apply for every individual program you're interested in was
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  Speaker 4: how I read it. And so students are sending in,
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  Speaker 4: you know, 10, 20 applications per school. And that's created this.
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  Speaker 4: bottleneck in actually accepting students and processing applications.
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  Speaker 1: So they've chosen to remedy this by writing is, is what.
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  Speaker 4: They're, that is what I have understood.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure we can sort this out, but letting
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  Speaker 2: AI take over.
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  Speaker 3: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the admissions.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen this?
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  Speaker 2: No, I have not.
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  Speaker 1: Do a Google, just do a Google image search real quick,
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  Speaker 1: Tyler for Paris riots.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now I will say, you know, um, you know, our
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  Speaker 2: buddy Roni, his wife, Almondine is from Paris. And I
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  Speaker 2: did see that she posted something. And I thought it
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  Speaker 2: might be some kind of comical meme about Paris burning,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't really look like that's got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of comedy to it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no comedy to this, my friend. This is legit.
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  Speaker 1: And they're about to play an NFL game over there.
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it doesn't make sense if Paris is
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  Speaker 1: not burning, but with Paris burning.
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  Speaker 4: Did you see the hype video the Steelers put out?
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  Speaker 1: I did not. Don't tell me they had, like, the
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  Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower on fire.
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  Speaker 3: They did.
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  Speaker 2: No, they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: No, Tyler, I was kidding. That's not true.
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  Speaker 2: They could not.
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  Speaker 1: They can't be real. Tyler, you've gotten hoaxed. I either
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  Speaker 1: got bamboozled.
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  Speaker 2: Or somebody has done something. I hope you're right. I
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  Speaker 2: hope the Steelers really posted this. I hope the Players
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  Speaker 2: Association gets behind posts like this because we don't want
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  Speaker 2: to go over there anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler's going to have to do it. I will not
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  Speaker 1: believe this. Unless I see it myself. Tyler has been bamboozled.
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  Speaker 1: There is zero chance the Steelers put out a hype
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  Speaker 1: video for this game with the Eiffel Tower. Oh, God,
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  Speaker 1: they're not wearing those uniforms, are they? I'd rather see
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  Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower burn.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you've been bamboozled, Tyler. All right, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Can you at least find the one that you saw?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the bamboozled one. Well, you're only 22
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  Speaker 1: hours back. It could have been the other day.
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  Speaker 2: Or the guy could have been fired and they could
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  Speaker 2: have removed it, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, all those things could have happened. Oh, Tyler,
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  Speaker 1: how did you fall for that? This is one of
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  Speaker 1: those deals where I'm just scrolling.
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  Speaker 2: You dog me out.
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  Speaker 8: For some of the shit I've fallen for.
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  Speaker 1: And this, look at it.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a flamethrower.
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  Speaker 1: This is as bad as Johnny Football leaping the fence, Tyler.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way you could have fallen.
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  Speaker 4: I knew it was AI.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. Like, oh, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: he was standing there in front of the burning town. No,
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  Speaker 1: but the fact that. But you thought the Steelers sent
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  Speaker 1: that out?
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  Speaker 2: Look at the bomb going off and the guy getting
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  Speaker 2: blown out of there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought maybe a social media intern got a
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  Speaker 4: little spicy.
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  Speaker 2: The guy getting blown out of the storefront. Watch this.
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  Speaker 1: Here he comes. Yeah, yeah, you got bamboozled Tyler.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I uh, this is the exact account I saw
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  Speaker 4: it from that football crave, which I think is just
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  Speaker 4: one of the satire.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 1: I would say probably satire. So, yeah, I got bamboozled.
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  Speaker 6: Still looks more believable than Johnny Manziel running into the
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  Speaker 6: stands at Brian Denny.
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  Speaker 1: I like this one better. flare the guys so there
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  Speaker 1: was a flare the fridge flat and the Eiffel Tower
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  Speaker 1: is just falling.
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  Speaker 6: The NFL just announced that they have canceled like the
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  Speaker 6: fanfare event.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really so they're not going to do that with Paris.
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  Speaker 2: Burning yeah so I mean the NFL typically and we've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this I mean as long as I can
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  Speaker 2: remember it's been by far the top model And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you had one in Mexico City, you know, one of
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  Speaker 2: the most dangerous cities in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And now you're going to the middle of riots that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even realize was going on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you've got to cancel fanfare, what's the point of
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  Speaker 2: doing the game?
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: This is so stupid.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and then, I mean, Brazil is not known to
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  Speaker 6: be the safest country in the world.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: And they keep going back there. Well, I mean, they've
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  Speaker 1: had to make adjustments when they've gone to some of
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  Speaker 1: these Mexican games. I never dreamt they would have to
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  Speaker 1: do it for Paris, but I'm sure security is at
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  Speaker 1: an all-time high. I mean, if you're going to make it, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even want to say that out loud. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, so sometimes on this show, you're
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  Speaker 1: just talking and saying what comes to mind and I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say something, not that was bad, but
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  Speaker 1: I just don't want to speak it into existence. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I see. NFL's playing a game in Paris, and they're riding.
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  Speaker 2: Drake May goes three. Drake May up until this point
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  Speaker 2: has had the better career. But, you know, Caleb Williams
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: gets hurt. You know, they kind of fall off a
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: little bit offensively. Now he comes back. And in week
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: one after missing three weeks against the Falcons, he was
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: really good. 30-36, 305 yards and a 31-23 win. And
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: then you look at Drake May. Right now, the Patriots,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: three consecutive wins. During that three-game winning streak, he's only
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: thrown one pick. And this is a super important game
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: for both teams based on the fact that New England
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: still holds out hope with the head-to-head over Buffalo that
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: they could win the East. But just getting to the
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: postseason right now in the AFC, when you look around
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: at 4-2 Denver, 5-0 Kansas City, 4-2 Jacksonville, You've got
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: everybody's above. 500 right now in the north, and obviously
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: you've got Buffalo there. But on the other side, for
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, in that NFC north, maybe the most
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: competitive division in football, you don't need to drop a game,
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: go 4-3, when you've got Minnesota sitting there at 5-0.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: So big game on both sides. And this is one
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: of the better Thursday night games we've gotten.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: I would agree with you on that. Generally, the Thursday
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: night product has not been good. And it's not necessarily
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: the teams, the matchup that is bad. It's just the
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: quality of play that is bad. So if you start
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: with a bad matchup and then you assume you're going
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: to get quality of play that is bad, the Thursday
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: night game is pretty undesirable. At least you're starting with
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: a good matchup in this. Whether or not we get
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: quality of play that's up to par, I don't know.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: But you're starting with a good matchup. I'm going to
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: say something I don't know if you'll agree with. I, personally...
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: had rather try to track down the Bills, or excuse me,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: let me back up. I personally had rather try to
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: track down the Vikings, if I'm the Bears, than the Bills,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: if I'm the Patriots. And the Bills have got one loss,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: and the Vikings are undefeated.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: But the Patriots have one team, and that is the Bills.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: For Chicago, it could be Detroit, it could be Green Bay,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: it could be Minnesota. All of those teams right now
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: have the capability of winning the NFC North. So that's
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: kind of the scary proposition if Chicago was to drop
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: And become the first team with three losses in that division.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, you would feel like because of the depth
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: of the division, what you're saying is NFC North deeper
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: than AFC East.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: And there's no doubt about that.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Not even close.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Jets and Dolphins are barely competitive.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: It's the deepest division this year in football.
• 14:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: You know, we always said that, you know, the most
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: elite was the NFC West until this year. And obviously...
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: With the Rams, where they're struggling right now at 2-4,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you can make that argument anymore,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: but the deepest by far is the NFC North.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: So that is tonight. The game in Paris is not
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: until over the weekend. Obviously, it's not a Thursday night game,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: but we're talking about it for reasons I can't even
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: remember why. But the NFL, for some reason, is playing
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: in Paris. I do wonder. Rusty says the players should
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: boycott going over there. This is ridiculous. I guess it's
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: a little late for that. They've already traveled. They're already
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: over there. But you do wonder if the Players Association
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: had gotten involved and had made a stink about this.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're playing this game. I don't know who the
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: home team is. Is it Pittsburgh?
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think they would take a home game away
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: from the Steelers, would they?
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I really have no idea.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Anyway, they love ripping them from Jackson, which we understand.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: But whoever the home team was supposed to be in
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: this matchup, give them their home game back.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: I bet if the Players Association, especially with.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: What's going on right now with this investigation and Jalen Hurts.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: They started to push on stuff, right?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I think the NFL could probably back down.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you have a ticket in Paris, how
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: upset are you? And what does it matter if they're upset?
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: You're never going to play a game over there.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like if there was a friendly at freaking
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: one of our local stadiums, would you really get beat up? Damn,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: it sucks, kids. We'll find something else to do.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I mean, I get my money back
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: is really all I'm concerned about. I'd hate that I
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: missed it. But, yeah, I don't know. And I don't
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: know if he's saying that about just this game or
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: all these international games, but they can't do these international
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: games without the Players Association agreeing. So they've already agreed
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: to do those. So you can't really fight that once
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the Players Association has agreed it. So there you go.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: That's NFL. We'll talk more about that with Coach Herm Edwards.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: As we start the show, just a couple of quick
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: things on the college football playoff. This 2014 playoff, and
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I hate that these stories feel like they always happen
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: in season. I wish this stuff would happen in April
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: or May or June or July, but for whatever reason,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: this college football playoff expansion story to 24 teams is
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: occurring right in the middle of a pretty good college
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: football season so far. So there are going to be
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: little droplets of news that come out throughout the season
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: as this thing unfolds. Continues to get negotiated. A couple
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: of those from Ross Dellinger today and then one from
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: our boy Klad. Dellinger says from Yahoo Sports that with
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the new deal of ESPN, I think you'll like this Lance,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: with the new deal at ESPN, there can be no
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: further college football expansion from 24 to 24. Until the
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: year 2032. So we've got at least six years where
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: they're not going to expand. Oh my God, what would
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: we expand to?
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: But at least there's some sort of stopgap in there
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to keep us from doing it.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: You know, the more I've thought about this, and look,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: it's going to be different on this front. There is
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: nothing like a sacred college football Saturday. We only get
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: so many of those. That is correct, yep. Very, very important.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: But I used to be the biggest college basketball fan.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I could not wait for Big Monday. I absolutely loved
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: it growing up. I loved watching Dick Vitale. I loved
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: watching Northwestern Ohio State basketball. It didn't matter. I just
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: wanted to watch college basketball. Because of what we do
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: for a living, I watch it now. I don't really
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: enjoy it until the tournament. And I do think with
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: this 24 teams.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I think for some people, it's going to become like
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: March Madness. The regular season is not going to matter
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: at all. I know it does because we talk about
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: the analytics of college basketball and ultimately who's going to
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: get in based on those analytics, but it's going to
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: lose a lot of the regular season, in my opinion. Now,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you and I are still going to be on the
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: couch for 12, 14 hours.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I will not miss a college football Saturday.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: And we'll enjoy it, but it's going to feel different
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: for some people.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but at least they're
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: going to stick with 20. I mean, they've Didn't even
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: stick with 12 through two cycles. They skipped right past 14, 16, 18,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: went to 24.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the way to do this was to go
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: to 16. And then, hey, and in 2032, if we
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: reevaluate and you want to grow it to 24, if
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: we're all in agreement. But again, and we've talked about this,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: none of this is done in the interest of the fans.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: No, not at all. Six-year deal. And supposedly, and I
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: say supposedly because there's outs to every deal, they can't
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: expand until 2032. But I'm like you. Even the money-hungry,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: greedy college football world, I can't see them going past
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: 24 teams. I don't know what else you would do. Well,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I say that. I say that, but, I mean, I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: guess you could go to 32 and everybody plays a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: first-round game. I mean, that would be the next natural move, right? Well,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it's.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Blowing up, look, I'm not going to doubt anything. Like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: if the TV numbers, I know they're down, what, 12%
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: right now, but if the TV numbers are up, everybody, like,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: is engaged and, you know, they're killing it advertising-wise... Yeah,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, they'll ultimately expand.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: One other thing that Ross points out, and we'll just
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: gloss over this and I'll get to the clad thing
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: after the break, that ESPN has the right to sub-license
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: these games that they are adding, which would just mean
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: for you as the end consumer, some of these are already...
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: on Turner Sports. It could be more on Turner Sports.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: This could be Fox's entryway. This could be CBS or
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: NBC getting into the college football playoff. ESPN owns all
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the games, but they do have the right. They've already
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: sold some off. They've got the right to sell off
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: all these that they're purchasing now. and the 24 teams.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: All that means is you could have multiple networks. Well, yeah,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and that doesn't bother me. No, not at all.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: The annoying thing is when Amazon Prime came in, and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: if you didn't have Amazon Prime or Peacock, and you
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: wanted to see this standalone game, and you have to
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: pay for another service. But, I mean, this is all
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: going to be what you probably have on, whether you're
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: on DirecTV or YouTube. I mean, maybe they do that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I have read that Netflix...
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Is Netflix failing, Tyler? I mean, do you guys know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: is Netflix like in trouble?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I think they've spent a lot of money, so I
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: don't know. Their profit margins are different. But, I mean,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Netflix is a worldwide incredible product.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: It is. But, I mean, did I read that it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: never even turned a profit? Am I wrong about that?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: You wouldn't be wrong because a lot of the money
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: they use, they just get more rounds of investing.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: They're not actually turning a profit because streaming is a
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: money pit.
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: They've basically just been trying to get market share and
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: phase out licensed content and push low budget.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: And that was going to be my point is, you know,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know that. streaming has proven to be a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: way to make bundles of money. Not yet, anyway. But
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: what I've read is Netflix has decided, and I think
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Amazon too. Now, Amazon's a different model because they're a
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: division of a delivery company now. But what I've read
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: is that Amazon and Prime have decided, just like the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: rest of the networks have, if we're going to make money,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: it's going to have to be a live sporting event.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: We're not going to make money streaming Bridgerton and whatever else.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: We're going to make money on live sporting events. So
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me If ESPN starts to sell these
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: things off, unless they're prohibited from selling it to a
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: streaming service, and I don't know that, that they might
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: involve a Netflix or an Amazon because that's what these
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: people want to do. They want to get into the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: life of this game.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Well, selfishly, as long as I have those, which I
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: feel like I'll have those from here on out, it's
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: not that big of a deal.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. And I think most people
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: are going to pay at least for one month to
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: watch their team play in a playoff game. Maybe not
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a regular season game, but certainly a playoff game. All right,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: so that's the scene center. We've got a lot to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: get to. Coach Herm going to be with us. Clay
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Travis is going to be with us later in the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: second half of the show, the back end of the
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: next round. The film guy, Brooks Austin, is going to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: be with us to talk about another week of college football.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: So we've got a lot to get to on the show.
• 22:21
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• 23:54
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  Speaker 1: on the show, on the next round. He joins the
• 24:01
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• 24:04
  Speaker 1: he said this in his Wednesday appearance on with the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: ticket in relation to um does that.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Go viral just anywhere clad is.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I guess so maybe it's not as viral as we
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: do uh clad loves saying stuff i will give clad
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: eternal credit for this like he does not mind saying
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: it now.
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  Speaker 2: No but what's so funny is he said well he's
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: like he thinks about it and he's like then he
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: talks himself into it okay so i'm gonna say this but.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah i love my favorite part of clad interviews when
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: he goes god i hate seeing stuff like this on
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: your show Because I know he so desperately wants to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: say it. And in his mind, he's fighting himself. Like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: is this going to go viral and cause me a headache?
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: It's just since the March Madness take, though.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, that was the one that put him over
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the edge.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: That's what started it, was the March Madness take and
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: all the hate he got.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: That's right. That was the one that put him over
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the edge. And he owned it, to his credit. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: here's what he said about college football playoff expansion on
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: the ticket in Dallas. This is a quote from him.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: The next thing that will happen almost immediately is we're
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: going to get scheduling agreements between the SEC and the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Big Ten. Top-end matchups, mid-tier matchups, low-end matchups, and we're
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: going to be expanding the valuable matchups and the non-conference
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: far surpassing what we have now. So basically, Klatt is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: saying we're going to have a scheduling agreement between the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Big Ten and the SEC to match up kind of
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: the way the NFL does. So for those that don't
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: know how the NFL operates, so Lance, let's say it's
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a year where the AFC East plays the NFC West.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And your Rams win the NFC West and San Francisco
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: finish the second. I know you would love that. If
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, and the Bills and the Patriots finish
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: first and second, don't the Patriots play the Rams and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the 49ers play the Bills? I think is the way
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that works, right? So that's kind of what they would do.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Which, I mean, look, if you're looking for great television games,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: now on the other side of that, you're going to
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: get Vanderbilt versus Rutgers.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: You are?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: You are? I mean, I got Vanderbilt-NC State. Vanderbilt-Rutgers isn't
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: entirely different.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, look, the marquee matchups will outweigh the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: shitty matchups, I believe. So I kind of like this,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: and I think you can also do much like the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: NFL does. They do such a good job outside of
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: these one-offs when they do the international games. But like
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: a scheduling show, we've talked about this for years.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, heck yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many college football fan bases would eat
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: this up? Because when would you do this? Like the NFL,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: they used to do it in April. I guess they
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: still do it in April. No, they've moved it to May.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: The schedule release?
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: So when do you think you would do this for college?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I would do it after the NFL. Yeah, like in June? Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, that does feel a little late. Now, coaches
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: aren't going to like that because what they're going to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: want is to have plenty of time. Maybe you even
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: do it right after the championship game. But I know
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that's in the NFL playoffs. So let me go back.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: So the NFL, you know your common opponents.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Like right now, you already know common opponents for next year.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So go on and have the common opponents, but how
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you're going to schedule these things out.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think coaches are going to want to know
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: before spring because they're going to want to use some
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: spring perhaps as maybe a look ahead to the first
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: couple of opponents there. So they're going to want to
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: know that. But, I mean, if you just look at it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Give me two seconds here. Let me go back to
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the final standings last year for both these. And I
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: would love to do it on ESPN.com. But that website has.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Does anybody else use ESPN.com?
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I've used it a couple of times, and it's nearly unusable.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: What has happened to it? Is yours just super slow
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and the pages won't load?
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pages either won't load or.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not backing them up, but I use it every day.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Do you really?
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: It's kind of the go-to for me.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, God, I have so much trouble with ESPN.com.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So where do you typically go?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I go to CBS Sports. which I'm going to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: do now.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: See, I don't like CBS Sports as much. I think
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: it's more junkier.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not saying it's clean. No, I'm just saying
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I can at least get the pages to load.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think the functionality is as good as ESPN.com.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: All right. So ESPN, or ESPN, the Big Ten versus
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: the SEC. If you did this last year, so Indiana
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and Ohio State finished 9-0 and played in the championship game.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: So you would have Indiana and Ohio State playing Georgia
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and Alabama because they also played in the championship game.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Sign me right up for that, right?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Sounds good.
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: So your next two on the Big Ten were Oregon, USC.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I think won the tiebreaker. I think that's the way
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: they've got them listed. So Oregon and USC would play
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss and Texas A & M.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Again.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Now, here's what's interesting. If you go back and look
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: at those games in the preseason... You would have said, Oregon,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M, that is one heck of a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: football game, and indeed it might have been, but that's
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: been two pretty disappointing teams. Oh, yeah.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, but that happens in the NFL.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: You do.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: You know, you would have thought that the Rams and
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the Chargers, that's coming up.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Think about this.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: That's Halloween weekend, so that's on November 1st.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's right. You thought that was going to be a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl preview.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: And now you're talking about a 2-4 and an 0-6. Yeah. So, look,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, we are kind of emulating what is–
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the now NFL model. And so you're going to get
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: some of the same situations, good and bad.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Michigan, Iowa would play Texas and Oklahoma. Boy, if
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Iowa and Oklahoma played, that game might last forever.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: More Michigan, Oklahoma. We already saw it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: We already saw it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Iowa's offense is better than Michigan's.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, so that's what you're looking at. You mentioned
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the bottom. Let me just do the bottom two. South
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Carolina and Arkansas finished dead last. You've got more Big
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Ten teams than SEC. So you would have Wisconsin and
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Michigan State. Playing Arkansas and South Carolina. I mean, those
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: aren't bad games. If you could pull this off, I
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like the idea of this. I don't think Klatt just
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: pulls this crap out of midair. He works for Fox.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You've got to think there have been some internal discussions
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: on this. I mean, I would think.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think Klatt just says this on Dallas Radio.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: He's a pretty calculated guy. I know it seems like
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: he says things on the fly here.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe he does.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: But he knows the internal, the ongoings in the television
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: network world, so I don't think he would float it
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: out there if he didn't have some kind of substance
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: behind it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what Klatt was saying on Dallas Morning
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Radio on DFW's Dallas-Fort Worth's The Ticket. So I guess
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you can go to their podcast.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Is that where we did our old terrestrial shows from?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: We did when we were in Dallas for Alabama-Michigan State.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Was that the only time we did a show out there?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 2015, but we did like, it felt like a
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: week of shows.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I know, it did. But then Alabama-Oklahoma, no, it wasn't Oklahoma.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Who's Alabama play out there? Uh, Cincinnati. Oh yeah. Yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You skipped that one. I think Jim did too. Did
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: he not? I wasn't on by myself.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: No, I think both of you guys went.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Uh, we did that one from, uh, the media hotel
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: from the Omni downtown. Very nice hotel, by the way.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And then is that the last time we've been out there?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Oh no. SEC media days.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: You didn't love Dallas.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big Dallas guy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Fort Worth's a better city.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I've heard that. I've never ventured over to Fort Worth.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Fort Worth much better than I do Dallas.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Fort Worth, to me, is what everybody thinks Dallas is. Like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks when you say Dallas, people are walking around
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: in cowboy boots and cowboy hats. That's more Fort Worth. Yeah.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: In my experience, anyway.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just saw Dallas. It was nothing but
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: heat and homeless.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Well, those two things together are normally pretty bad, yeah.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: I thought that was more Austin.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Austin's pretty... I was in Austin a couple summers ago.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: It had both those things, yes.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And bats.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And bats.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I went on a bat tour when I went out
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: there to visit family homes.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I did not go see the bats. I heard people
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: say you should do that. It was pretty cool.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: It is a little.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Anxiety-inducing.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: If you have a fear of rabies, then yeah.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, doesn't everybody have a fear of rabies?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: I don't sit around and think about it, but I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: guess I do have a fear of rabies.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Well, if you're somebody who thinks about it, then I
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: wouldn't recommend it.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess if a bat was in
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: my house, it would be one of the things that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: would cross my mind.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: How about if you're on a boat going under a
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: bridge with hundreds of bats above you?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to go in the cabin.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: That's probably a good idea.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Probably not going to be sunning out on the deck
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: if we're going under a bat cave.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Here in Alabama, there's a cave up on Lake Guntersville
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that bats at sunset, the bats fly out every, I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: think it's, I guess it's every night. Hell, I don't
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: know why they wouldn't do it every night.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: In my neighborhood when I was a kid, we had
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a ton of bats.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: In your neighborhood?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: In my neighborhood, a ton of bats.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: The way you describe your childhood neighborhood, it's fascinating to me, really.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It's almost a stranger thing. What was the upside down?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: The upside down?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: That was Forest Brook. It was wild.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: You used to say the sun never shined there.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: It didn't. But we had bats.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You had bats. The sun shined. It's like Lance grew
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: up in an entirely different world. And the other part is,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and I've always envisioned this, Lance tells the story. Tell
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the story about how y'all used to set fire to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: stuff in the gutters, right? Oh, yeah.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: So we had the, it wasn't your traditional storm drain.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I think some people that live in maybe the 70s
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and 80s neighborhoods know this. So it's more of the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: drain that you're not going to get rats and stuff.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You're just going to get the water that is going
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: to go between, you know, Creek A and Creek B.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: But it is the tunnels that you can actually, you
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: can army crawl through. And so it's the elevated. It's
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: not the flat manhole cover. It's the elevated where the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: water goes in and you can lose baseball, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: soccer ball, that kind of stuff. So we would climb
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: in those things all the time as kids.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: It was just kind of adventurous. But we would so bad.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: We would get a bunch of leaves and pine straw
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: and we would we would stick it. We were strategically,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: there's like six, seven of us, and we were all
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: over the neighborhood, and we would stuff it in, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: then we would light it. And so it looked like
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: apocalypse now throughout the neighborhood on certain nights.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I think of Lance's neighborhood like this guy has been
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: at work all day and hates his job, and he's
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: fought Birmingham traffic to get back home, and he turns
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: in his neighborhood. The whole thing's burning. And it looks
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: like the end of times. The sun's not shining. It
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: looks like Paris. There's bats flying everywhere. We got smoke
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: coming out of the storm drapes.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, we were menaces, you know. But, you know,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: this is why you've got to have parental guidance.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yes, that does help.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Very, very important. Got to have a compass.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, that does help. Real quick, we're going to do
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: CBS Sports in the next segment. CBS Sports. has done
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: college football playoff tears. Who is really elite in college football?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: They have told us who they think will give our opinion.
• 34:19
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• 34:20
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• 34:23
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• 34:25
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• 34:31
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• 34:34
  Speaker 9: 65%.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Your gut reaction to these. I do believe it is
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a Saints home game that they are playing in Paris.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: That would make sense with the Saints' wrench history there.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Steelers 3.5. I don't know how you factor in travel
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and all that.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, travel's tough. It was one of the things I
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: did factor last week when we had the Texans over
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville because Jacksonville traditionally has not played well overseas. And
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: this one right now, I would take the points. Yeah,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I backed New Orleans last week. We got away with it.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: They kind of fell apart in that fourth quarter against J.J. McCarthy,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: but they did hold on. I kind of lean New
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Orleans plus points here.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Browns laying one and a half at the Titans. The
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Titans just got a win.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: They're about to get their second.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: You think so. So Titans went out right.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I think Titans went out right. But I have tried
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to condition myself in the NFL to not play awful teams.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And Tennessee is an awful team. They are an awful team.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I know they're coming off a win. I think Cleveland
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: at 4-2 under Todd Munkin is fool's gold. I don't
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: think it can continue. But Cleveland's got a salty defense,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and now you're taking on a Tennessee offense that really
• 35:36
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• 35:42
  Speaker 1: In Nashville?
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, the fans have tapped out.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I guess they're just waiting on that new stadium. I mean,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: if this were in the new stadium, it'd be a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: more expensive ticket. It's going to be gorgeous weather, too. Like,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I have been in awful weather. At Nissan Stadium. Oh,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I have too.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: One of the coldest games I've ever been to.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I stood in the sleet one day and watched
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Tua act like he'd never seen a football in his life.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: It was just awful weather. A huge AFC Central matchup
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: as the Bengals take on the Ravens. and the Bengals
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: are a one-and-a-half-point road favorite at the injury-played Ravens.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. This is all dictated
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: on Lamar Jackson right now. I would lean the road Bengals,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: but that's one of those that don't foresee me playing.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I only bring this game up because I saw this earlier.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I was reading today. I think it was CBS Sports
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: was doing bold NFL projections this week, and one of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the writers said, my bold NFL prediction is Bo Nix
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: gets benched. the Broncos are four and a half point favorites.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: The Cardinals coming off the win over the Rams. Could
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: you see Bo Nix getting benched?
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, possibly, you know, the one thing you've
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: got with Bo is you've got a track record of
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: him being really good in the fourth quarter. Now he
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: wasn't that this past week on last Thursday night when
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: we were up in, was it puckers and Gatlinburg?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Is that the name of it?
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I think that was the sports bar where you watch
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers get swept out and, and Denver hold all
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: those brewers fans. Um, But what direction do you go?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Jared Stidham, we saw this in the AFC Championship game.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: As bad as Bo Nix might be playing right now,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Stidham is not the better option.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see him getting benched.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you do. Now, does Denver reset
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: at quarterback next year? Possibly, but right now I think
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: you're kind of handcuffed to Bo.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: We were talking NFC North earlier. Packers at the Lions,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and Lions are a three-point favorite over the Pack.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Pack's playing great right now. They're
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: about to get Josh Jacobs back, so they've been doing
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: it through the air. Matthew Golden is turning into an
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: exceptional receiver, by the way, for Jordan Love. I've got
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: a feeling this is Detroit's afternoon.
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you know this. The Rams are
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: at the Raiders.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: That's at 325 Central Time.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I had this incredible trip planned. I've had to cancel
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: that trip, but kind of glad I did now because
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: the Rams are only a three-and-a-half point favorite. It was
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: like six-and-a-half, and now it's down to three-and-a-half.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: What does that tell you?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I think you've got to be all over Vegas in
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Y'all are going to fall to two and five, you think?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we fall to two and five.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: You might be able to get out of there with
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: a skinny three-point win.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're worried.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I'm very, very concerned. I mean, look, not even close
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: to whole. This Rams team has now become one of
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: the biggest. Not only is confidence going the other way,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: just the way the, I don't know, the way they're playing.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: And maybe desperation will turn them around, but they're missing
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: key pieces now.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:23
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• 38:28
  Speaker 1: quick before we break. The Sunday night game is fantastic.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: How often do you think you can get an undefeated
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Chiefs team catching points? And they're doing that at Seattle,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: catching three, catching a full field goal at Seattle.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: They need more than three. Seattle has got to figure
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: out how they can get back to running the football.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price going on IR was a big deal, obviously
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: losing Kenneth Walker. And Kenneth Walker now comes home to Lumen.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to get a little revenge on the team that didn't
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: want him or didn't want to pay him that big contract. Boy,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Kansas City has made out like bandits on that. But
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I think this is going to be an uphill climb
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: for the Chiefs, just giving you an early lean on
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the Seattle Seahawks minus the three.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: And then finally, and this is we were just talking about,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the SEC and Big Ten doing this scheduling agreement, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you do it in advance, and you think you've got
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: these great matchups. And I'm sure when ESPN said, I'll
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: tell you what we'll take in week six, is we'll
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: take the Cowboys, excuse me, week seven, We'll take the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Cowboys at the Eagles. Big NFC East matchup. The Cowboys
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: are going to be good this year. Jalen Hurts and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are the team they probably got to get
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: through to win this whole thing and boy is that
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a yucky looking matchup.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah I mean it really is and you know just
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: yuck I mean it's it's Tanner McKee the former Stanford
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: product who wasn't terrible in the 25-14 loss to the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Panthers but like he is not going to be the
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: answer uh, for this Philadelphia offense. And, you know, on
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the other side, Dallas is struggling on both sides of
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: the ball. Dak's coming off arguably his worst game. And,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: you know, the defense has been struggling under new defense coordinator,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Christian Parker. So this is a nasty looking game.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Terrible game.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And Dallas four and a half point favorite road favorite.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Opened as a three point dog before the Jalen Hurts news.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And then, uh, now are a four and a half
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: point road favorite.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, Tanner McKee cost you seven and a
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: half points on that swing around.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Does he feel good about that, you think? Probably.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: He probably doesn't. If I was him, I would just
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: avoid looking at any of that stuff.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, imagine Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, who no
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: longer like working together, apparently, and then you've got to
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: go watch that game.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Now, is it true they almost came to physical blows?
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I read the New York Post article this morning, and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: perhaps there's been a different article that you're referencing. That
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: one did not say that. It just said it became
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: such a I guess, argument, a loud argument that basically
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Joe Buck apologized to the staff the next game. It
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, that's on me. I apologize it got
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: to that. Let's just focus on doing the games.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I wonder, and look, in these internal situations, you never
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: know what gets everything instigated. But you talked about the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: root of the problem or what the perception is, is
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Joe got paid and Troy didn't.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I think Troy thought we're a team. Let's negotiate as
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: a team because the two of us together or stronger negotiation.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: But how does this become an outward thing?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Well, I guess because Troy is
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: frustrated enough that he's about to go.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm wondering, like, just, no, I get it from, like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: us knowing now.
• 41:18
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: But I'm talking about for those two to be feuding, like,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: that animated in front of, like, coworkers. Like, what do
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: you think actually triggered that?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Well, apparently, according to the New York Post article, I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: think they were in the booth prior to the game
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: at SoFi. Or maybe it was a team meeting or whatever.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And Troy, according to the New York Post reports... had
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: become very quiet, giving him the cold shoulder, not responding
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: to him and stuff like that. And then Joe finally said, look,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: is this really the way you're going to act?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: And then he might have exploded.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Troy was, you know, Troy.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I thought we were a team.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Greedy.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: But coming to blows, I don't know. Joe Buck, if
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: he's smart, he didn't let it get anywhere close to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: blows because Troy Aikman would dribble him in the ground.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: So I would think not, but who knows. That was
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: not in the New York Post report I read. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: hate it. It's come to that. I really like that crew,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't appear they're very long for the world
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: But again, I think Joe does a good job on
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: the play-by-play. I'm not a big fan. I love me
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: some Troy Aikman, so I'm very interested to see how
• 42:21
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• 42:37
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• 42:51
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• 42:55
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• 43:00
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• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
• 43:02
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• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do remember that. I mean, it's a true
• 43:08
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• 43:10
  Speaker 1: in a commercial, right? Like, if the commercial producers don't
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: feel it necessary to say, hey, that's Frank Thomas. You
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: remember the Big Hurt doing the Nugenics commercial or whatever
• 43:19
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• 43:23
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• 43:26
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• 43:27
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• 43:30
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• 43:40
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• 43:49
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• 43:52
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• 44:00
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• 44:13
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• 45:03
  Speaker 1: So Brad Crawford, CBSSports.com, did tiers of college football playoff contenders.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: So the elite in Tier A, Tier B, Tier C.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: On and on and on. He's got three teams in
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Tier A. Three Tier A teams. Three top-tier college football
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: playoff contenders.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Do you want me to tell you who these three
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: teams are?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you who you think they
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: should be, or you can guess what Brad does. Either way,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: those two may line up. Who do you think, if
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: there are only three, who should they be?
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: They should be... I mean, if you're being realistic, it
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: should be... Oh, man, three.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Three of them.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Well, right now, because of Ohio State, not only what
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: you've got with Julian Sam, but Jacoby Jackson... Just had
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: a procedure on the foot, and he's going to miss
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: multiple weeks. I would go Miami.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I would go Georgia.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: He did. The next one is.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I think I would go Notre Dame.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: He does. He does, but that's the one you really
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: have to think on. I'm still not 100% sold on Miami.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not at all.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know everybody plays close games. Everybody plays
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: close games. I mean, Georgia, for Pete's sake, just lost
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: to Auburn, so I've still got them in there. But
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Miami having to go to double overtime to beat Florida State,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it's a rivalry game. I get all those things. That's
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: not really even why I'm not sold on them. I'm
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: just not– I don't know what it is, but I'm
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: not 100% sold.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Look, the Corey Heatherman defense last year when you had
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Mesidor and Bain, it was different.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: It was the biggest story of the playoffs.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, they were able to attack the quarterback. For
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: all three levels of that defense– It was just completely different.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: And this year, I think there's going to be offenses
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: that really can take advantage. You saw it earlier in
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: the season with Wake Forest. And the problem is now
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: we don't get to really see Miami take on those
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: kind of offenses. You'll get to see it against Notre Dame,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: and I think they'll get exposed.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Again, we talked yesterday, though. That trap game with North
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Carolina is interesting.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Tier B has got one, two, three, four, five teams
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: in it. And there is, I don't think, there's zero
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: chance you would get his five. But who would you,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to do five. I'm just saying,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: who would you say are Tier B teams? If that's
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: your Tier A, who's.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Your Tier B? I mean, BYU's got to be there
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: now because, yeah, they proved it. Indiana's got to be there.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: He's got them.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I think Ole Miss has got to be there.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: He's got them.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Then it gets a little trickier. I think based on
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: the fact they've got three road wins, and I don't know,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I cannot believe I'm saying this, but three road wins
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: in the SEC, I think he's going to put Kentucky
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Because that's the one I did not think you would get.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: And let me just say what Brad Crawford of CBS
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Sports says about Kentucky.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: And then would the fifth be Ole Miss? You already
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: had Ole Miss. Oh, I already had Ole Miss. Would
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: he go?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: You've already mentioned them in your discussion earlier, but they've
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: got injuries now.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Ohio State, yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean, I was
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: going down the list and didn't even look back for that.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: So you've nailed it here. So here's what he says
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of Kentucky. And it's interesting. Would you have them as
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: a Tier B player?
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I still don't believe I was on with
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: our friends from visa and last night and I was like, I,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I backed Oklahoma and I just, I don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: know what's going on. Like I give Will Stein a
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: ton of credit, but, but sooner or later this, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if this weekend's bad Vanderbilt.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Somebody sent us a screenshot of your visa and visit.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: They were watching it and send it to us on
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: social media. I can't remember what they were saying about it. Um,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was nothing negative that you were on
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: vSAN last night. Do you do that weekly?
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I don't do it weekly. I think I've done it
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: four times this season, so about every other week.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: That's cool. Have you been to Circa and seen their setup?
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: No.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Again, that was one of the things I was going
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: to do this weekend.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: They've got a cool setup.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: The more we talk about this, I might just hop
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: that plane.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait a minute. So now you're back on.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I doubt it, but I'm just saying because you and
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I would be at Bunkers on Friday, and you were
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: telling me the easiest route would be just jump over
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: to Atlanta, get the direct to Vegas.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I'd do if I were you. were you
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: yeah if you're going.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: The problem with that is when I get back to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Atlanta having to get in the car and drive after
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: a that's always the worst part after 48 hours or
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: 72 hours in Vegas I don't think I can do
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: 72 anymore yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: That is always the worst part I have uh for
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: those that are watching throughout the country Birmingham has a
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: good airport we just don't have a ton of direct
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: flights so if you want to fly to and and
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and by the way.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's 12 total direct cities that we can
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: go to.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's not a ton And they're, you know, it's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: your major hubs, obviously. You know, you can go to Dallas, Chicago, Denver, Phoenix.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: They've got some directs to Vegas, Orlando for Disney, New York, Washington, D.C.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: You know, you've got some directs. But there aren't enough.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: And if you just want a true direct flight, you've
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: got to go to Atlanta sometimes. And as I tell
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: people that are new here, If you die in Birmingham,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: you have a layover in Atlanta on your way to heaven.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the way it works in Birmingham.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing. Like, we might not have
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: those directs, and I hate having the connector. But, man,
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: our airport is so accessible.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: It's so easy in and out. That's why I love
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: flying out of Birmingham. But you either got to get
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: lucky with one of those directs, or you got to
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: take a connector somewhere.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing. And I think the only
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: direct to Vegas is, like, I think there's, like, an
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: 11 in the morning. There might be a 1 in
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: the afternoon.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: So the other option... Is you drive to Atlanta and
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: fly direct. And that is great. It's all fun and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: games driving. Well, driving to Atlanta is never fun. It's
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: all fun and games until you come home and you're exhausted.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: And it's been a long trip. And you're like, I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: got to drive from Atlanta to Birmingham now, don't I?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: And it's only a 30-minute flight. Like, if you just
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: do the flight, it's 30 minutes. But it's a pain.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: But I tell you, when I'm driving home from Atlanta
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: after those trips, I'm like, boy, that 30-minute flight would
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: feel good right now. Would feel a lot better. If
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: there's a way I could.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: But what I hate is, like, you fly over Birmingham.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, can you just drop me off somehow?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Like, can I parachute?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm looking at home.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're coming back from the West Coast, and you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: fly over Birmingham to Atlanta.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I got to deplane once I get
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: to Atlanta. I got to get sometimes in a rental,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: or I've got to get in my car, and then
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: I've got to drive all the way back.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Uh tier c back to tier c tier c is
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: alabama lsu tennessee texas tech ucla utah tier d florida
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: houston iowa missouri texas southern cal and wake do you
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: think there's anybody you would move up out of either
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: one of.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Those no where was texas tier c.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Texas was in tier c with teams like tennessee no
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: i'm sorry texas was in tier d okay where's florida
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: florida's in tier d with texas who they just beat
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Missouri is not in any of these. Missouri is in
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Tier D with Houston, Iowa. Let me do Tier D again.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Tier D, this is your last group. Florida, Houston, Iowa, Missouri, Texas,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Southern Cal, and Wake. Boy, nobody believes in 6-1 Southern Cal. Nobody.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: You're among that group and you're a Southern Cal fan.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: It's fool's gold. If they're able to go back to Wisconsin,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin Central Time, right?
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Yes. Brooks used to live up there. Brooks is Wisconsin
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Central Time.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I think it is.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: The entire state.
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: So if they can go back to central time, they've
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: been so bad in the central and eastern time zones.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Now they got a break with how bad Penn State's playing,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: but still it was a win on the road.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Still a tight win.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I thought Wisconsin's offense last week against UCLA was a
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: huge hit. I thought Colton Joseph was kind of an
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: upgrade at the quarterback position. I'm not so sure now.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: But anyway, if they were able to go to Camp
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Randall and get that win in prime time, got to
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: give them a little bit of credit. But that's one
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: of those games like, To me, that is a show-me
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: game for USC, and if you lose it and you
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: drop to two losses already with Ohio State coming up
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: next week, I just don't believe in this team.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Well, if they win this one, if they win this one,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: then you've still got a game in hand. I mean,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: keep in mind now, a two-loss Big Ten team is
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: in this thing, right? Because I think we're going to
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: start picking through maybe some three-loss Big Ten teams. So
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: a two-loss Big Ten team is in this thing. If
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you can win this one, Ohio State and Indiana, you
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: can at least split those.
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: If you lose this one, you've got to sweep Ohio
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: State and Indiana and one of those on the road.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it happening.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and I think now USC with, obviously, you know,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: the quarterback situation with Julian Sam being out and Jacoby Jackson,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: offensive line still not whole. I think USC can get
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Ohio State, but I don't think right now they're in
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: a position to go into Bloomington and win that game.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: You know, they really need the next two weeks. You
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: can lay down against Indiana. You've got the second loss there.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Then you've got to lay up with Maryland at home.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: And then it comes down to the victory bell at UCLA.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting finish for them. Ohio State at home,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: bye week at Indiana. Maryland, who's on an interim coach,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: and then at UCLA.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, I would have said before the season, like, book Wisconsin,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: book Maryland, book UCLA. The two difficult ones were Ohio State, Indiana.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I'm almost to the point where at
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: UCLA it's become more difficult than Ohio State at home.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Backup quarterback.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: That is true. Backup quarterback.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: But backup quarterback for UCLA, so what am I saying?
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Those four of the final five games for USC are
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: extremely difficult. I will be absolutely shocked if they're able
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: to go 4-1, but That's.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Three top ten teams right now they've got to play.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Indiana, and UCLA, as crazy.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: As that sounds.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Good luck. All right, Coach Herm Edwards joins us next
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: to talk some more NFL with Coach Herm. Clay Travis
• 54:11
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• 54:20
  Speaker 1: go to hour number two. Coach Herm Edwards is about
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: to join us to talk a little NFL with us.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: as it fires back up tonight tonight we got some
• 54:29
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• 54:33
  Speaker 1: taking on the Bears to four and two teams that
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: will be playing tonight the Patriots and the Bears again
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: as we talked about it's two teams that have been
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: you know they've been great at times but there's not
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: too long ago we were asking the question could Drake
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: may do it in this league.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, well, you know, the runner-up to Matt
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Stafford and the MVP voting last year had an incredible season,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: you know, going to a Super Bowl. But the first
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks were just bad for Drake May, and
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: he has completely flipped that around. This Patriots team has
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: won three consecutive games. Again, only one pick over that
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: three-game winning streak right now. So both of these teams
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: coming in a lot more healthy than they were.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago. By the way, before we
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: go to Coach Herm, speaking of Matt Stafford, did you
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: see that report? in the wake of the firing of
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Chris Ballard in Indianapolis, how close they were to trading
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: for Stafford instead of the Rams, that Stafford was so close,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: thought it was such a possibility, they were already shopping
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: for homes in Indianapolis. Wow. So you were that far
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: from him being a Colt and not a Ram.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: And never having that 2021 Super Bowl championship year.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: That would hurt you. But you would have never known
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: what you didn't have. I mean, I guess y'all would
• 55:44
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• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Or Deshaun Watson.
• 55:47
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• 55:48
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• 55:49
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• 55:52
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• 55:56
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• 55:58
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  Speaker 1: to our friend, the coach, Herm Edwards. Welcome in, coach.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Hope you're doing well today, my friend.
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: I am well. That was a long read that you had.
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: Hopefully they're paying you guys a lot of money.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: For that read.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Tons, Coach. Tons. Tons.
• 57:18
  Speaker 7: I guess. That was a long one. That was almost
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: a minute read.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, almost a minute. Okay, it was supposed to be
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: a minute. So, Coach, you know, you've dealt with a
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: play clock before, so you know. I mean, when a
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: minute is, you know, play clock was running down. Coach
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: was telling us, get the snap off, get the snap off,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: get the snap off.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Coach, can we start with what is probably the most
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: interesting story in football this year, and that is the
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: 2-4 Rams, and now injuries are a part of this.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Going into the season, it is amazing that people are like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: and you know this, you played it, you coached it,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: but this team is going to win the Super Bowl.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: You can never say that going into a season. What
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: do you think went wrong?
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Obviously, the hype of it all and everyone was, a
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: lot of people were on board. I thought they were
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: going to be very good as well. And they just
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: seemed to really not play up to their potential. Now,
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: injuries had something to do with it, but everybody's injured.
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, every time you look around the NFL, someone's
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: getting hurt, right? I mean, it's just one of those deals.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: But they just haven't lived up to the expectations. A
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: lack of a running game, I think, for the most part.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: not be able to get the ball down the field.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: They're a very explosive offense, and they have just struggled.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, the quarterback's been hit a lot. I mean,
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: they don't even look like the same team they were
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: They have not been, obviously, and there's another one in
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: that market that is underperforming as well. Equally or maybe
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: more puzzling are the Chargers because they haven't dealt with
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: some of the same injuries, Coach, but this is still
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: an 0-6 club. What in the world is going wrong
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: for the other L.A. franchise?
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: Boy, this is a head scratcher.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: You know, I felt like when Coach Harbaugh went there,
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: they would have a different mentality offensively, you know, become
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: more of a running team, a play action football team.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: But if you would have told me that at this
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: point in time, the charge would be 0-6, I mean, 0-6.
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, you got to try real hard to be 0-6.
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's just like.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: That to me, it's a head scratcher. And every week they,
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: you know, and they're basically a victim of, playing against
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: the Chargers. The Chargers play against the Chargers every week
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: because they turn the ball over. It's just like, are
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: you kidding me right now? I mean, they've got maybe
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: the most turnovers in the National Football League, but every
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: time I watch them, they turn the ball over.
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: Fumble snaps from center, intercepts.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: Whatever it may be, they find a way to give
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: the opponent the ball without kicking it to them. And
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: that's how you're supposed to give the ball to the
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: opponent when you play offense.
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: You kick it.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: Either you kick it after the field goal, you kick
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: it after a touchdown, or you punt it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: But when you give it to them on fumbles and interceptions, it.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Never works out.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: You know, another one of these teams that we had
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: a huge expectation from was the Houston Texans. They start 0-4.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: They've won back-to-back. Now they're getting a little bit of
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: a groove here. And, you know, three of those first
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: four losses, one possession losses like a lot in the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: NFL are. If you're D'Amico Rines, how do you get
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: this team like, OK, we started 0-4. We were in
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: a similar situation at 0-3 last year. How do you
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: keep them focused every week that, like, there's still a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: ton of football in front of us and we can
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: get this right?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: Well, the good thing for them, as you said, they
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: started out 0-3 last year. Everyone in that division has
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: a division loss. So they feel like, hey, we're still okay,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: but we have run out of room now. We've got
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: to start winning football games. And if you mentioned, they've
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: won two in a row now, so they're headed in
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: the right direction. But this was puzzling, too. When you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: watched them start the season off, you went, okay, they
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: lost two now. And then you went, oh, they lost three.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: They're going to do like they did last year. No,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: we're going to make it more harder.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: We're going to lose four.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: Now, the good part, They're in a division, as I mentioned,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: everyone has a division loss. So they're chasing the Jaguars,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: which obviously they're playing really well. I think Lawrence is
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: playing like he did his first couple seasons in the league.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: So they're trying to chase Jacksonville. But, you know, I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: look at this league and I go, it's kind of interesting.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: They always talk about parity. And there truly is probably
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: some parity in the league now because a few teams,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: you know, Kansas City being one, Minnesota being one, San
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: Francisco being one, have no losses. But everybody else, you know,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: has a couple.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: And if you have, like, if you.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: Can get the three wins this week, it's an 11-game season.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: And I've always said this. It's a race to 10.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: 10 generally, 99% of the time, you get into the playoffs.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: And if you were in the South last year, the
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: NFC South, 8-9 won the division. There was three 8-9
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: teams that actually were fighting to win the division. So
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: it's a race to 10. Everyone knows it. Now you've
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: got to start stacking some wins up.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: The coach Herm Edwards with us. Are you making the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: flight to Bristol this week?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: Come on. Like clockwork.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Like clockwork. Is that five and a half hours? Is
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: that what it is?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: Well, I stop in Atlanta. There's nothing direct.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 5: So I get to Atlanta and then from Atlanta go
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: to Hartford. And then coming back, the same. And I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: leave out of San Jose. That's from where we live
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: in Carmel, California. It's probably about an hour and 20-minute ride.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: But but it's kind of interesting this week. I've got
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: some stuff I got to do. So I'm going to
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: stay on the East Coast. I'm going to Philly. Dick
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: Vermeule's party, believe it or not, he turns 90.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: And we're going to his birthday party. I hope he
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: doesn't get mad at me for saying that. But I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: love that man. All the players are going to the party.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Is Karen still alive?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: Who?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Isn't his wife, Karen?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: I believe, yeah, Carroll, yes.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Carroll, Carroll, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, it's just, it's amazing. And I've known
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: the man since I was 17 years old. He recruited
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: me to UCLA when I was coming out of high school.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: I ended up going to Berkeley, went to that other
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: school up there that kind of interested in going to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: that school now.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: But anyway, and then, you know, he was my coach
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: in Philadelphia.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: So, I've known Coach for a long time and, you know,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: Helped me a lot as a head coach. Had to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: play against him a couple times, you know, and that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: was always tough. But great man. And all the teammates,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Jaworski and all the guys are going to show up
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: for that thing, so it'll be a lot of fun.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Do you remember him sleeping in his office? I heard
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: that famously he was sleeping in his office.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, he was a taskmaster now. I mean, we
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: didn't have a lot of first-round picks. He took over
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: an organization that had traded away a lot of picks.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: So he built that roster with three agents.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 7: Some trades, you know, and stuff like that.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: And it was just remarkable how he built that organization. And,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: you know, we were the first Eagle team actually to
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: go to a Super Bowl.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of that old division, that is a bit
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: of a mess in that division right now with the injuries.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: And all of that. The Giants are, I mean, it's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: so rare. Yeah, they're first place, which is remarkable. And
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: they're changing quarterbacks in first place. I mean, it's rare
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that you do that. Not only are you changing quarterbacks,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: you're changing a backup quarterback, and they're still in first place.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: What a weird situation for them. But what do you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: feel like J.J. McCarthy could do for this team? He
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: played very well against the Saints in relief last week.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: Well, I think Coach Harbaugh sat him down. You know,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: he had famous Jameis. Do you like the experiment? I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: guess the experiment's over. And they're going with the guy
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: they drafted. And I've known Jameis a long time as well, too.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: You know, so he's a fabulous guy in the locker room,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: and he gets it. He understands his role. But, you know,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: the Giants right now are sitting in first place with
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: three wins, believe it or not, in the NFC East,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: a division that I thought would be pretty good this year.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: But that is not the case. They want to run
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: the ball, hardball, hard-nosed guy. He wants to run the football,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: play action. Now the quarterback, he can extend plays. That's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: what he can do. He can extend some plays, but
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: I think he wants them to stick to the script,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: play from the script first, learn how to play quarterback,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: and then from there extend.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the 8-7 Panthers that actually won the NFC
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: South last year. Bryce Young as a quarterback, the connection
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: with him and Dave Canales, head coach, they make the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: postseason last year. They seem to be a little bit
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: better this year. Where are you on Bryce Young?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: I tell you what, I recruited him coming out of
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: high school. And I can remember when he came in
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: the office. We had Jaden, obviously. And you look at
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: Jaden's size and dimensions. And when we brought him in,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 5: after he left, I was talking to him and the family.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: Very pleasant, good player in high school. I looked at
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: the guys, I said, he's a quarterback, really?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: I said, he's not very big. I said, no, he's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 7: a Christian. And you can just watch him throw.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: Then he goes to Alabama and does what he does
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: in Alabama, and he goes to Carolina. And obviously, he
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: has tremendous touch, you know, because you can imagine, he's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: not the biggest guy. He's not the tallest guy. But
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: he's very accurate throwing the ball. He makes good decisions.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 7: He's smart. This team is playing well. I mean, now,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: they're in a division, as I said. 8-9 won it
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: last year.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: We'll see if somebody can win 9 this year in
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: that division. We're going to watch and see this.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: What a sad race, Richard. A race tonight.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: But the NFC South seems to be better than the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: NFC East right now. No, you're right.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: And the NFC East is a mess. I mean, Philly,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: that whole thing is... All the things that have happened there,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: it's just a shame. But look, it's like anything else.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, you make a run for a while in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: a division... and everybody on the offseason is drafting and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: and obviously bringing in uh free agents and guys to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: to win the division and the other teams have kind
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: of done that and philly just has dropped off offensive
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: line we can go through it over and over and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: then obviously what happened to jaylen is a shame but
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: um now he's not going to play so they're going
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: to play with tanner key a kid uh that was
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 5: at Stanford. I remember playing against him when I was
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: at Arizona State. He's a pocket guy. He's going to
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: play from the pocket, but we'll see how these Eagles
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: fare going forward.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: Are you a believer in 5-0 Minnesota? They have become
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: offensively challenged, but they're still 5-0.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: They're 5-0, and listen to this number now. This is crazy.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: This is professional football. Defensively, they've given up 64 points.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 9: 64 in five games.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: That means you ain't scoring. I mean, you better score
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: in the pregame warmup because.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: You're not scoring on these guys. And your quarterback's going
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 7: to get hit.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: 68% of the.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: Time they bring pressure. They're going to hit the quarterback.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I am a Miami Dolphins fan, Coach. And Brian Flores,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I know it's bad. Brian Flores did not work for
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins, but that guy can flat coach defense. I mean,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: his defenses are spectacular.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, they're really good.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, and, you know, points, points are always critical
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: because that's how you win in games.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 7: And when when your defense see.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: What happens, what people don't realize when your defense can
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: play like that. Let's just say in a game you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: get 12 possessions. OK, you can have eight possessions offensively
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: where there's no stress on you, where you don't score.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: And it's OK because no one's getting away from you.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: The lead is never too far. You know, it's like
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: a three-point lead, seven-point. You're never in double digits with
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: these guys because they keep the score.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: Down, so they take a lot of pressure off your offense.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Randomly, as a player, where was the most difficult place
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: to play for you?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 7: Early was in old RFK.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Against the Redskins. Excuse me, now they're the Commanders. I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: still call them the dadgum Redskins. And so what was funny,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: when I came in the league in 1977, you know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: George Allen was the coach. So on a beautiful day,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: like we had played the third game of the year,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: and the veteran guy said, hey man, get ready.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: And I said, what are you talking about?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Just get ready.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: So you got on the field, and the first thing
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: you realize is that inside the hashes, the grass is
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: cut like nice and outside the hashes, it might've been.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 7: An inch longer. And here's the crazy part. It was wet.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what is this man?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: And you're slipping and sliding.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: And it's like, they didn't have a lot of speed
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: back in those days.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: They had, but they had a whole team and it
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: was like, the hardest place to play.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: And let me tell you something about that fan base.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: When they got going and they had a chief that
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: had a drum that was popping, when they started singing
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: Hail to the Redskins, I was like, are you kidding
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: me right now?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: And to see like the whole crowd was coming down the.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Field on us, man.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: I was like, where are we right now?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: I can remember there was someone, Hail to the Redskins
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: and fight for ODC.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 7: I said, this place is crazy, man.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: The old NFC East. It's always been fun. The great
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: rivalries there. Coach, we appreciate the time as always. Safe
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: travels this week. All the best to Coach Vermeule. He
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't know us at all, but we're respecters of him.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're getting to celebrate with him this week.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: I appreciate you both.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: All right, Coach. Thank you. Have a great day. That
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: is the great Coach Herm Edwards. He has PN. You'll
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: see him all week in Bristol as he has to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: make that long cross-country trip.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Real quick on Dick Vermeule. The difference in technology now,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: I remember I was a subscriber to a thing called RamsWire,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: and Howard Balzer was one of the contributors. It was
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: literally a weekly newspaper that was cover-to-cover Rams, and it
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: was about all the things going on in the season.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: And I would get it every Thursday. And, man, I
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: would read that thing cover to cover multiple times. But
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Dick Vermeule would also have a little article in there.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, he wrote it?
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess he contributed to it or whatever. But,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: you know, he was the guy that gave the Rams
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: their first ever championship.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I always respected Dick Vermeule. But I famously remember him
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: sleeping on his couch. And that's what drove him out
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: of coaching. Like, he almost killed himself just from the
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: stress and You know, just beat his body up.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: And not a lot of coaches can do what he did,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: and that was to get out of the game, get
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: into broadcasting, take a decade plus, reset, and come back
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: to the game.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: And be just as elite as when he left.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, those first Rams teams were really, really bad,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: and then, you know, they found the magic. And I,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, he did a good job of
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: the culture, but Mike Martz and the offense that he
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: implemented with those skills.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Never liked Mike Martz. Never liked him.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Nobody could. Most smarmy guy ever.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Really was. I was just, you know. Watching from afar,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: obviously I'm not a fan.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: When he took over, when he pushed Vermille out, by
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Clay Travis is next. We'll talk some with Clay. I
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: am sure he will want to comment on the big
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: win for Tennessee over Alabama last week, so buckle up
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: for that one if you're an Alabama fan. Clay Travis
• 1:11:39
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  Speaker 1: where you can go right now um and play all
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: these games we were talking about um boy i tell
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: you what i feel like talking with coach herman we
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: just talked a lot of bad football teams yeah like
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: i mean i know we asked him as many questions
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: as we could but it just feels.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Like i mean you brought up minnesota they're five and oh.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're that good they do
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: have a great defense so brian flores Didn't work as
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Dolphins head coach. That's not uncommon.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I still thought last week they were able to run
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: the football. I thought Kyler Murray played mistake-free. There was
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: a Justin Jefferson touchdown, so he was involved with the offense.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the offense can get a little
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: better and better each and every week. I'd watch out
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: So you are more, obviously, more of a believer than
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: I am. The thing that scares me is Kyler Murray.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, can he– He's on the field every play, Lance. Well,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I get that, and that was going to be the thing.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Can he actually stay healthy? We already saw him out,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: you know, at the end of week one or through
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: that game against Green Bay and then miss after that. So, like,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: how healthy can he stay and can he be consistently
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: the really good Kyler Murray? There's good Kyler. There's bad Kyler.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Who was it we used to say that about?
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 9: Bo.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Good Bo and bad Bo. Bo Wallace at Ole Miss.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So we're back to that now with Kyler Murray.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: I think with Kyler Murray, we are. I mean, I
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: still don't, it's amazing Kyler Murray's able to play at
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: this level, his size.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. It's just, I mean, I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: watched him against the Dolphins. They were so offensively challenged
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: that day, just to the point that they were getting
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: booed by our fans. Kicked a lot of field goals
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: that day. By the way, on the college game, before
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: we get to Klay, um, ruled out against Illinois and
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know how big a deal this is because
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know how close this game would be with
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: them or without them but Dante Moore is not going
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: to play and Evan Stewart is not going.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: To Evan Stewart got the DUI after the win last
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: week and I think those are big deals he's your
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: leading receiver and obviously like the quarterback play has not
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: been good you decide to go with Thomas and they
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: had to bench him and they had to bring in
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Raiola to kind of save the day and he was
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: able to pull it out but their offense is struggling
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: now the good news is Illinois has fallen off a cliff.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Brett Bielema's team. Yeah, very, very great.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Looked like he kind of had it going in the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: right direction there.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: And I just wonder if Illinois is one of those
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: programs where you can't consistently win.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, maybe it's two years up, one year down.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: You know, one year up, two years down. I just
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: wonder if it's going to be back and forth like that.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: With all that said, I mean, Oregon still, they're an
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: eight and a half point favorite. I don't really feel
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: good about them.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Today is October 22nd. That injury to Dante Moore was
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: September 26th. We're almost a month now.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: And he's still not playing, which is terrifying to me.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Seems forever ago.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: It does. I mean, that seems like last year.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Remember, I was at a fall wedding.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that's how long ago that injury has been.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: He was out for their bye week. He missed the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: loss to UCLA. He's missed last weekend's win to Nebraska.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: He'll miss this weekend's game at Illinois, road game at Illinois. So,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's missed three games now. And listen to
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: this before we get to Clay after this. Northwestern, that's
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: a losable game without him in it, right? Very much so.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: At Ohio State, that's a losable game with him in it.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: But you could have backup versus backup there. And then Michigan.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: Michigan.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Well, and now that you've switched to Tommy Carr, I mean, Michigan,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: who knows, man? I mean, maybe with the accommodation of
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Jason Beck and finally getting Bryce Underwood and not worrying
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: about the investment there and, hey, we're going to worry
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: about winning moving forward. I think Michigan could be something
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: to deal with.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, Oregon already with two losses playing yet another
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: week without Dante Moore. They cannot afford another loss and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: the schedule gets more difficult at the Illinois. So it's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: he's been out a month. It'll be hopefully he can
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: get back on the field. That's scary. He's been out
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: that long. Clay Travis, the founder of Sport and State.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: He is with us now on the show and joining
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: us as he does every week. What is up, Clay?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: How are you, my friend?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: I live in a state where we have a good
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: football team, unlike you all.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Auburn beat Georgia.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Tennessee beat Auburn, too. Tennessee is the state champion.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. I forgot about that. Tennessee is
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: the Alabama state champion.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I think we all knew when Josh Heupel went out
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: and got Jim Knowles that this defense was going to
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: be really, really good. I didn't know it would be
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: good enough to make Alabama offense look that bad and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: to make the Alabama Kalen DeBoer doubters come back out.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: On both sides of this game, Clay, where do you
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: think Alabama is now after back-to-back losses where The offense
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: has scored a total of 13 points in the last
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: six quarters. And then Tennessee, like McIntyre didn't make any mistakes.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to be able to trust
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: your quarterback moving forward, but the defense is so good.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: And Deshaun Bishop is so good. Like with what we've
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: got going on in college football, who knows?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I think you have to say who knows every
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: week now in the SEC, and I do think this
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: is going to be a big change for your average
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: SEC fan. It's a lot like the NFL where every
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: week things can change immensely. I knew that Tennessee's defense
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: was good. Even I didn't expect them to dominate Alabama's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: offense as much as they did. I think I said
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: on with you guys last week that I felt like
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: whoever got to 24 would be able to win this game,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: so I liked the under. But look, Tennessee bullied Alabama.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: That was physical domination on both sides of the line
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. And with Deshaun Bishop, you're right. But for
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: a tip ball interception that Alabama got and then even
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: the touchdown credit to Keelan Russell for making the play.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: But even on the touchdown, Tennessee had a blitzer coming free.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: It was just the pump fake that Keelan Russell put
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: on that allowed him to scramble in. I think that
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: was a 19-yard touchdown in the second quarter that made
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: it close for a little bit. Even on that play,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Tennessee had a free rusher. And I think Tennessee finished
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: with five or six sacks, whatever the heck it was.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Keelan Russell was under pressure the whole game, and obviously–
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: I thought maybe Tennessee settling for three field goals, dropping
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: a touchdown pass on one of the, I think it
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: was the first, after the first turnover. I thought that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: might end up catching up with them just in terms
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: of the offense letting the defense down. But then it
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: never did materialize that Alabama was able to get Deshaun
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: Bishop off the field. We had a nine and a
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: half minute drive. I think Alabama fans have to have
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions about where the status of the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: program at this point in time. I think maybe, and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: I'll put myself in this camp too, maybe we overreacted
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: to the first five games of Keelan Russell and what
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Georgia and Tennessee have been able to do. Maybe other
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: SEC defenses are going to be able to do now
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: that people have calmed down. up with him a bit. But,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: you know, this is what I have seen in general
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: of Kalen DeBoer and why I've been skeptical. Alabama lost
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: games under Nick Saban, but they didn't get physically beaten up.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: They didn't get dominated. They didn't lose the line of scrimmage.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: You know, last year I was at that game against
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Florida State. when Alabama just really got wrecked. And I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: think there's just a lot of these examples now of
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Alabama not being physical enough on both sides of the
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage to be able to compete at a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: high level, as high as Alabama fans are used to.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: One more thing I would say, I do think the
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: overall talent discrepancy that Alabama had for much of the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Nick Saban era is over. And I think even if
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Nick Saban were still coaching, I think this is one
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: reason he left. I think Alabama would be tougher physically.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think they would have the same level of
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: talent superiority that a lot of people got used to
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: over the years. And I just think much like in
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: the NFL, the difference between one and 32 is not
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: so seismic that one couldn't lose to 32. I think
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: maybe if you take away Vanderbilt, maybe Arkansas, I think
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: the other 1-14, almost anything can happen from one week
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: to the next.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: To your point, almost everyone now has, if you do
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: an SEC power rating like we do, Tennessee's in or
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: close to your top four. A lot of people have
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: them in their college football playoff projections right now, and
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: you're an underdog at South Carolina. I mean, that's life
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: in the SEC right now.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: I think it's also a function of South Carolina being
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: pretty good, but losing. Look, they were up 16 on
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Mississippi State. They were up 17 on Kentucky. If they
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: win both those games, South Carolina's 5-1 and probably ranked
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: certainly in the top 15. So I think South Carolina
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: probably has top 20 talent when Lenora Sellers plays really well,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: like he did on the road against Florida. I think
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: they're capable of beating anyone. And again, they're coming off
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: the bye week. Tennessee is coming off the big epic
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: win over Alabama. And so I understand why it's expected
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: to be a close game. I'm surprised South Carolina is
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: favored though, because again, going back to what you guys
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: have pointed out, I don't think Tennessee is going to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: give up a lot of points on defense to anybody.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: I really don't this year. And with a running game
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: where you can pound the opponent and really talented wide receivers,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: if George McIntyre or phase and Brandon can just avoid
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  Speaker 3: turning the football over, Tennessee is going to be able
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: to beat anybody. Certainly that's, that's left on the schedule
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  Speaker 3: and heck, They may be able to beat anybody in
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: college football if you see, you know, the Ohio States
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  Speaker 3: of the world coming back to the pack.
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  Speaker 2: So, Clay, going back to our show last Friday in Gatlinburg,
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  Speaker 2: I said, look, if Alabama was somehow to lose to Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: the perception of everything changes. So, like, Alabama fans are
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: down right now. They don't believe this. Maybe is it
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: even a playoff team? On the other side, where are
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Tennessee fans at 6-1? What is the realistic expectation moving forward?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think there's cautious optimism. I also think you
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: can go back to that Texas game and say, how
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: much of that was Faze and Brandon just being totally
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: not ready for the moment? He got sacked 10 times.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Offense was inexplicably, I think, bad, even with the ability
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: to run the football. I mean, anytime you have 10 sacks,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, something has gone awful in terms of your
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: performance on the offensive side of the ball. I think
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: there's a cautious optimism, I would say, with Tennessee fans,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: because this reminds me a little bit of 2022. Tennessee
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: went into South Carolina and gave up a chance to
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: make the college football playoff and got run as a
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: three touchdown favorite. If Tennessee beats South Carolina Saturday. Then
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: you get the bye week, and then you have Kentucky
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: coming to Knoxville, which should be really basically a top-ten
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: matchup because Kentucky should beat Vanderbilt this weekend. I think
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: that you will start to see at 7-1 a lot
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: of Tennessee fans saying, okay, we can believe if we
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: look at these final four, should beat Kentucky. Texas A &
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: M are on the road, and Aggieland is winnable. I
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: think it will be a low-scoring, ugly game. Then you
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: get Lane Kiffin and LSU to town. And then you
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: got Vanderbilt. So if you can beat South Carolina, I
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: think 3-1 to get to 10-2 and make the playoffs
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: is maybe the expectation at that point in time. Not
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: saying the games are easy, but I think there's a
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: wait and see with South Carolina. By the way, that
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: November 7th weekend, the amount of incredible games that are
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: being slotted to take place, including you want to talk
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: about Alabama and LSU. Either Kalen DeBoer or Lane Kiffin
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: is going to come out of that game with three
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: SEC losses with a bunch of games remaining. I know
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: Alabama's schedule is easier down the stretch than LSU's, but
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: my goodness, that's a tough game. walk out of the
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  Speaker 3: stadium moment for either Alabama or LSU's head coach.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Clay Travis with us on
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• 1:24:32
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• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Was Vanderbilt a flash in the pan? I mean, they
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: fell back to the worst team in the SEC very,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: very quickly.
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  Speaker 3: I think they knew they were not going to be
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: really good this year, and they– I have a lot
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: of faith that Jared Curtis is still going to be
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: very good. He's not there yet. I think when you're
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: starting a true freshman, you are acknowledging that you're not
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: going to perform at a high level. I think that
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: the overall roster construct will change quite a lot, as
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: it will everywhere for next year, and there will be
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: a higher level of optimism. But I think it's fair
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: to say nobody anticipated that Vandy would go 0-9 in
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: the SEC. And I think you have to start to
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: discuss that as a legitimate possibility that they go winless
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: in every conference game. And when you lose at home
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: to Arkansas by 10, I think it's fair to say,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: you know, this is a possibility. this is a break
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: the glass moment for, uh, for Vanderbilt for the next five, five,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: six weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I saw earlier today, tickets at Nissan this Sunday for
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Brown's Titans. You can get in for $ 43. Now that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: the Titans have won a game, are you back in?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: That's too much. So what, what.
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  Speaker 2: Will it take to get you back to Nissan?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I have season tickets, so I'm giving my
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: seats away. Um, My boys don't want to go watch
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: the Titans. I mean, I don't want to go watch
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: the Titans because there's other good NFL teams playing, and
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: I would rather stay at home and watch good NFL
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: teams play than go watch a bad one for three
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: hours and spend the time to get to the stadium
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: and everything else associated with it. I don't think I'll
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: go back this year. I think what it would take,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: my boys are old enough, I think it would take
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: one of my kids saying, hey, Dad, I really want
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: to go to the game with you, I would go then.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: But they are probably further on the Titans suck, I
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: don't even want to watch this team play than I am.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: And so I think it would take one of my
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: kids saying, hey, Dad, I really want to go to
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Lance thinks you're going to win. Didn't you say.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: Back-to-back wins for the Titans? Yeah, I think the Titans
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: will win this week.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't stun me. The Browns can't score.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: The Titans are awful on offense but have a decent defense.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: I took the under already in the game. I expect
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: it'll be a 14-13, 13-10 style ugly slugfest on Saturday
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: in Nashville.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: Ugly slugfest is not exactly a way to fill the seats.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: That's probably not going to sell many of those tickets.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: I need a lean from you on this one, and
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: I think I know where you'll go. You already gave
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: us a lean, like wrong team favored with Tennessee, South Carolina.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss in Austin to take on Texas. Texas has
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: lost back-to-backs. Texas a three-and-a-half point favorite.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got burned last week. I thought Texas
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: would crush Florida. I thought they would take advantage of
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: the weak secondary. I thought a lot of the offensive
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: issues that we had seen with Texas coming out of
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: that loss to Oklahoma would have been rectified, didn't happen.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: So I know the majority is on this game. I'm
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: taking Ole Miss as the underdog. I'm also taking the over. Look,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Texas gave up 27 points to Oklahoma. That loss looks
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: even worse now. in retrospect, after what we saw happen
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: with Oklahoma against Kentucky. Um, and so, uh, I, I
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: just think it's hard to buy into Texas, uh, at
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: this point in time. And if they were to lose
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: that game, then I think the overall pressure on Steve
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: Sarkeesian and certainly Arch Manning is going to go to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: an entirely different level. And, um, You know, look, they
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: were very fortunate to beat Ohio State. I know Ohio
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: State's going to have to make do without Julian saying,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: I heard you guys talking about that a little bit
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: as we were coming in. I don't think Ohio State's
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: going to make the playoff. um i really don't i
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: you know the true freshman quarterback even with elite talent
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: elsewhere they weren't looking very good with julian saying um
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: i think there are a lot of teams that can
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: beat ohio state now on that schedule um including usc
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks out in the coliseum which
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: has the potential to be a Lincoln-Riley renaissance game where
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: he sort of punches back in a significant way. But
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: I think Ole Miss wins. I think both teams score 24,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: maybe 28-plus, and Ole Miss wins the close game down
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: in Austin.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine this real quickly? I said this earlier
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: on the week. If you would have gone to Hard
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  Speaker 2: Rock Bet and tried to figure out a way to
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  Speaker 2: get this future bet– Texas, Ohio State, Oregon, all three
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: to not make the college football playoff.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: That's where we're heading.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy that we could be in a position
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: that is that is this outrageous. But that is that
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: is the world. And again, I think that SEC fans
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: are going to have to learn this. But I've said
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: it before, nine and three, six and three in conference
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: going to be a good year. You go seven and
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: two in conference and you get to 10 and two overall.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a great year. You know, there's
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: only one. Here's another one, LT. What could you have
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: gotten on UCLA to be the last undefeated SEC or
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: Big Ten team?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: It's insane.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: A thousand to one? A thousand to one? At least.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: And you would have been like, that's preposterous. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to waste $ 10 on that. Like, wipe your ass
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: with that. It's impossible.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: So I think, again, much like every NFL fan knows,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: the team you get one week can be completely dissimilar
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: than the team you get the next week because of matchups,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: because of a variety of factors that just happen to
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: coalesce because the difference between the teams is not that significant.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: I think this is the era that we're in in
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: the SEC now. I think it's the era that we're
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: in in college football. And by the way, it's why
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: I think a 2014 playoff makes sense. Because I don't
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: think we're in a world where only five or six
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: teams at most could win a championship. I think depending
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: on health, depending on quarterbacks rounding into shape, teams just
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: getting better, I think there'll be 15 teams regularly now
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: that when you get to the postseason, if things go
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: right for them and the bracket breaks the right way
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: and you get the right matchups, not dissimilar to the
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: NCAA tournaments, that you can find a way. There's still
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: going to be the case that certainly, just like in
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament, your ones and two seeds, your top
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: eight teams are more likely to win because they're getting
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: a buy in all those things. But I do think
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: that factors in, and I think it makes college football better.
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  Speaker 1: All right, he is Clay Travis, founder of Sporting State.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be on Big Noon this weekend, which should be good.
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• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: doing a sit-down interview as part of the pregame. So
• 1:31:42
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  Speaker 2: Will you ask him why his lyrics are so hokey?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I like Luke.
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  Speaker 3: He's an awesome guy. By the way, his son is
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if people realize this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And is getting a bunch of our kids play against
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  Speaker 3: each other and have played against each other quite a
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  Speaker 3: bit over the years. But his son is a very
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: good quarterback on a state championship caliber team in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: And he's getting offers all of a sudden from SEC schools.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that'll be a topic for sure as well.
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  Speaker 3: I guess he's got a really athletic mom.
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  Speaker 1: Big Georgia guy he is. So if Kirby gets in there,
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  Speaker 3: Monster Georgia fan.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kirby, go in there and recruit the kid. All right, Clay,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. We'll see that on Saturday. Have a great week.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you all.
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  Speaker 7: See you then.
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  Speaker 2: I do. I look at this South Carolina team and
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  Speaker 2: be hard for them just to be engaged enough to
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  Speaker 2: So I think South Carolina is still very engaged. Now
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee coming off this massive loss win over Alabama. I
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  Speaker 2: know they believe, but going on the road with McIntyre,
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  Speaker 1: But we have seen it throughout college football. Big win,
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  Speaker 1: on avoiding that letdown.
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  Speaker 2: Do you lean into the fact, and you have all
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  Speaker 2: these examples with this team all year of teams that
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  Speaker 2: have won emotional games, that have got beat the next week?
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  Speaker 2: Is that something you just lean into this week with
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  Speaker 8: a new season inside of this league. That's whether you're
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 8: playing at home or on the road. You got to play.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: The margins are just, they're small, they're tight. A play here,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 8: a call there make a huge difference. So you got
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: to be on the right side of it in your preparation.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 8: certainly understanding what you're getting into, the fact that they
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: got an extra week with the bye last week. Physically,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 8: they'll be as fresh as you can be at this
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 8: point in the season, extra week of preparation, road environment.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: So we've pointed to all those things with our team
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Boy, he just mentioned everything I was about to say
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: at the end of that soundbite because I didn't know
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: he was going to say it in the soundbite, but
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: you're coming off an emotional win. Your fans have celebrated
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: with you all week. You've got to go on the
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: road where Josh Heupel has struggled at times. You're playing
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: a South Carolina team that just had their biggest win
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: of the season, 38-19 at Florida, and they got a
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: bye week. I mean, if you just want to stack
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: everything that would look like an upset, they've just, well,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: it's not even an upset. Everything that would look like
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: a road loss, they've done it.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: And again, George McIntyre, like they've won back-to-back games and
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: they've only got the one loss right now and everything
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: looks great. But as a starting quarterback, he's got three
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: interceptions and one touchdown. Sooner or later, as good as
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: that Knowles defense is and as good as Deshaun Bishop is,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: this is going to come back. and this there they
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: will lose games because of the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 1: For sure I mean it does not appear to be
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: solidified McIntyre had a night he had a nice a
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: nice enough game against Arkansas a nice game against Alabama
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  Speaker 1: but I just don't know long term Is that your guy?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Do you see Faison Brandon back? I mean, do you
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: think you see Faison Brandon back playing meaningful sports? I
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: could see it after Saturday. You think you could? Maybe
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: even in Columbia. Maybe. You never know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if he goes in and turns it
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: over two or three times and, you know, they're down
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: 7-10 in the fourth quarter, who knows?
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Then there's the talk of college football. The very nice-looking
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: Bob Chesney, head coach at UCLA. People say he's a
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: handsome man. And he has got his team undefeated, come
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: off that 17-7 win against Wisconsin. This schedule does not
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: appear for UCLA. This upcoming schedule lands to be extremely daunting.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: They host Michigan State, who's been a pretty disappointing team
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: in year one under Pat Fitzgerald. That's homecoming this weekend.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Well, you want to hear a number?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: I would love to.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: Pat Fitzgerald going back to his Northwestern days, his last
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: 22 conference games in the Big Ten from Northwestern to
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: Michigan State. What do you think that record is?
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Not great. That's 22, I'm going to say... He is 4-18.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: He is 2-20.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: 2-20 is even worse.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've got the worst scoring offense right now in
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten. And, boy, I don't know how they
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: beat UCLA. Again, UCLA is a 14.5-point favorite, so I
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: don't think they're in jeopardy of losing this game. But, again,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: never say never.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: And then Nevada, that's a game you're crazy. I mean,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: there's no way they're going to lose to Nevada, right?
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: You're at Minnesota, which is an interesting game. That's a
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: losable game. Losable game. You host Illinois, who we just
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: talked about, with Oregon. They have not had a good year.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: I think they're fine three of the four right there.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: All right. Then you're closing at Michigan and hosting USC,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: and that feels like where the rubber's going to have
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: to meet the road for them.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: Probably so.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: But you can't lose sight of having fun, man, right?
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: If you're not having fun doing this, what are we
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: even doing it for?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: And everything's fun for Bob Chesney right now.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: He's winning.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: He's the toast of college football, and the coach says,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: that's all part of it, man. You can't forget the
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: fun in football.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 9: And I think we built this team with people like
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 9: Gane Energy, know from each other and and from being
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 9: out here and playing a game that they love and
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 9: we're not i always think about like what would this
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 9: look like if it was fun right and anything you're
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 9: doing in life what would it look like if it
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 9: was fun and could you do that could you actually
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 9: allow it to be fun at times uh and there's
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 9: obviously it goes every which way and there's time for
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 9: all the seriousness and everything else but we are playing
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 9: a game and i think that's important to keep in
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 9: perspective and if we don't burn them out with the
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 9: toughness and just how hard it is and keep telling
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 9: them it's a grind and beating them down you know
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 9: you can do a lot here by uplifting people and,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 9: you know, uniting people and finding a way to be
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 9: able to maybe have a little fun at the same time.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 9: And I think that's what these guys do. They're playing
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 9: a brand of football. They love it here, and they
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 9: love to be a part of it. So I think
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 9: they come out here and get recharged, not beat down
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 9: from football. And I think that's the way I've always
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 9: wanted a program to look.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Always a massive flex by UCLA doing the press availability
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: outside in the sunshine. I've always thought it's good recruiting.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be back next year.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: Where do you think he'll be the coach?
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe Texas.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask. More on that in the...
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: Most of these coaches that get opportunities will at least
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: stay for a couple of years. Most. But UCLA is
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: so dysfunctional, I don't know if they'll be able to
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: get out of their own way to be able to
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: keep him. It almost goes back to the Saban documentary.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: If you saw the first or second episode... where Skip
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Burtman's like, hey, congratulations.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: He doesn't even try to keep you. UCLA knows we've
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: got a limitation here. So I've got a feeling Chesney
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: will be elsewhere. Where that is, I don't know yet.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: But I just think he's everything you're looking for in
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: a coach. I know it's easy to say six games in, but, man,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: it's been pretty incredible. It hadn't been Indiana-like, but it's
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: been close.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if he can close the deal and get
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: them to the playoffs– Who even knows?
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: But then you've got a potential Lane Kiffin situation, Lance.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: If one of these big schools wants him, UCLA's in
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Are they going to say, no, you can't
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: coach through the playoffs? Or, yeah, go and coach the
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: playoffs and we'll get you whenever you're done. That's going
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: to be tough on you. It really would be. All right.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: We lost a former college football coach. And in honor
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: of him, we're going to play a word association game.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Chuck Amato passed away at age 80. Blades. All right, Tyler.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: Chuck Amato Google search. Tyler's going to do a Google search. No,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: this is what we're doing.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Google, I was going to say, Lance, give me the
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: fashion item that you think of when I say the
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: name Chuck Amato. And you went.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: Oakley Blades.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Oakley Blades. There you go. Chuck Amato. It seemed like
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: he wore them more than what it shows in the photos. But,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was a look.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: It seemed like he had them on every Saturday.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: It seemed like night games he wore them. But now
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: that we do a Google search, if you just do
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: a Google image.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: Did you ever interview? I interviewed him one time.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I did one time. He had a scratchy voice, kind
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: of talked like an Italian scratchy voice. Just do Chuck
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Amato and look at the image searches. Not as many
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: sunglasses photos as I would have thought.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Look at that one where he's like a bodybuilder almost,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: like a 50s bodybuilder.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Is that really him? That's from his Wikipedia page. We
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: may just spend this segment learning about Chuck Amato.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: Wait, what language is this in?
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: It says it was in Hausa.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: What is Hausa, Tyler? I don't know.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: Boy, that threw me off.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: But that was him.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's his real Wikipedia page, right? I'd like
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: to know more info on that photo. That is a
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: barrel chest right there.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, again, it looks like a 50s bodybuilder.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: Photo caption of a photo displayed at the Stafford table of.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Amedios.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: Amedios.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my best friends worked at Amedios forever.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: I know he did.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: I swear he did. Are you serious? Tommy Cummings.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: In Raleigh, North Carolina?
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: The late Tommy Cummings. Lost him way, way too early.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he was a Raleigh native and worked at Amedios.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: Well, he saw that picture then because it was displayed
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: at the Stafford table.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, Chuck did not skip chest day, did he?
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: Nope, sure did.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: My goodness. I do remember like when he was just
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: wearing the polos on the sidelines. You could always see
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: his boobs. I remember that.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: This is a guy who's built to bench press, though.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: He really is.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 6: He's got that stocky body build. We had a wrestling
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 6: coach in high school that could do like 250 dips
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: in his 60s because he had just those short, stocky
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: arms and a big barrel chest.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: And you can tell, not that you can see the
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: bottom of this, but his shorts are really short.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That's going to be short shorts. They're probably cotton, too. Yeah,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: short shorts.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: That gold chain, sometimes when he takes it off a
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: little too rapidly, it rips a lot of hair out
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: Uh in honor of chuck amato just real quick i
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: was gonna see if you were on the same wavelength
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: as me as soon as i can find what i
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: wrote down um i say steve spurrier you think a
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: visor i mean he was the originator of the visor
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: right like a lot of people wear the visor now
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: on the sideline steve spurrier did it first again the
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: test on this is going to be top row google
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: image do we get one with a visor and we
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: do kirby now too Yeah, Kirby does it. You get
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: several coaches that wear the visor. I'll tell you this, man.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: Like, you can see with a guy like Lane Kiffin
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: that wears the visor that his hair is thinning.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: Like, Kirby's hair is never going anywhere. Nope, it's the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: same haircut he had in high school.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, it is just thick.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Jim Trestle. When I say Jim Trestle.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, the sweater.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Sweater vest, right?
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: Sweater vest, yeah.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Sweater vest every time on the sideline. Look, I mean, Tyler,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: you don't have to do sweater vest. Every one of
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: his photos has a sweater vest.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just always looked like a politician.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: He really did, and he became one. Jim Trestle sweater vest. Tyler,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: it was every single game. Now, here's a tougher one.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Al Golden.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: Al Golden. Tie.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: No, tie with short sleeve button up.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it was long sleeve and he would
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: have it rolled up. See, like in the Miami? Yeah,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: he would always roll it up and he always looked
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: so freaking hot in those games.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked like he was rolling into a fraternity
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: composite picture.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: He did. Al Golden every single time, tie.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was short sleeves more so, but
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: I guess I could be wrong on that.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: I remember he started it when he was head coach
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: at Temple.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: Because I do think the short sleeves with the tie.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: That was a Joe Pah thing, though, right?
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, was it to honor Joe Pah? Is that why
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: he did it? Yeah, I think he had a Penn
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: State tie-in. Interesting.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: Where is Al Golden now?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Is he not the defensive coordinator of the Bengals still?
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? That's where I thought he was.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I guess he is.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's Bengals' defensive coordinator.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: For a minute, I thought he was going to be
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: a pretty good head coach at Miami. Did not work.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: Nobody did.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: Until.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: Who we view as a top 10 coach now?
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. All right, another half to go
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: in the next round. Enjoy Clay and Buck if you're
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: sticking around on Sporting State. You can either watch us
• 1:47:13
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• 1:47:16
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• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: doing two more hours, some more college football. The film guy,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Brooks Alston in NFL. Have a great day.