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Drive Thru News #64 - The Hofmeister Kink, a Rental Altima, and a Circle K Walk Into a Bar… · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to Break Fixes, Drive-Through News, your monthly recap for
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  everything fast, fascinating, and usually four wheeled.
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  We're serving up a fresh batch of automotive headlines, motorsports
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  So grab your coffee, buckle up, and let's cruise through the latest in the world
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  of wheels with a side of entertainment and just a dash of tire smoke.
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  Hi guys.
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  Hi, Brad.
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  What's up?
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  Yes.
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  When was the last time we did one of these?
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  Feels like it's been a while.
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  October.
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  What we didn't, when did we?
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  We, I thought we did one in November.
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  No, because November is always the holiday special.
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  Last year we did the game show and all that stuff, and then we do the
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  holiday gift exchange and all that.
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  And then December was the Formula One retrospective.
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  Right.
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  So this is the winter recap.
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  We get to talk about everything that happened since October, basically
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  when we went into hibernation.
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  So you mean it's gonna be a really short episode?
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  I mean, I don't think anything really happened with the absence
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  of Formula One in the episode.
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  Yeah, everybody gets back half an hour of their day.
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  Lucky them.
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  Welcome to drive through episode number 64, our 64th drive through episode.
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  Can you believe it?
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  No, we've only skipped two in the entirety of break fix.
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  We've only skipped two drive-through episodes.
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  Can you believe that?
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  Uh, no.
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  You don't listen anyway.
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  So the difference is so, so, so you have only skipped two.
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  I've skipped a couple because I popped out babies and all that good stuff.
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  Oh, that's true.
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  Yeah, that's true.
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  So I've skipped a lot more than two.
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  That's very true.
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  We did have some fill-ins there over time.
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  So mad shout out to our guest hosts that have come on in
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  the past to fill in your size.
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  13 loafers.
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  Yes, my loafers.
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  Did you get anything good for Christmas?
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  I didn't get anything for Christmas.
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  What you can imagine.
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  Why.
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  Oh, well, yeah, I, I can't, I mean, so yeah, I, yeah, literally I got nothing.
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  I mean, I got car parts delivered to the house for Christmas, but they're
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  yours, so Does that really count?
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  Yeah, I bought myself stuff for Christmas.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, we'll get into that Winter recap.
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  Traditionally, we look back over the months that we haven't been recording
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  the drive through and kind of see what's been going on in the automotive industry.
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  'cause it's a slow time of year.
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  Even though, as I constantly remind you, the beginning of
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  the sales cycle is September.
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  So if we are now almost like halfway through the sales year at this
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  point, nothing's really going on.
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  But there have been some significant changes and maybe some backpedaling, we'll
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  call it that in the automotive industry during the winter months, Instagram
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  posts from the car News network, sort of by way of BMW, the EU officially
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  kills the 2035 combustion engine ban.
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  Clickbait or is there some truth to this?
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  That's not exactly what they're doing.
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  They're relaxing the requirement that by 2035 propulsion system is a hundred
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  percent clean and they're relaxing at 90%.
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  So you have a 10% window there to pollute.
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  So you still have to have a really efficient ice engine, or it's a hybrid.
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  Basically, and you're using very little fuel, so it's not clear cut that, oh, EVs
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  are out and we're just going right back to gas guzzling four cylinders in Europe.
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  Right?
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  Right.
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  So I think it's more nuanced than that.
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  I think there's an ounce of credibility to at least this sentiment that governments
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  around the world are rolling back.
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  The hard and fast mandates that we were gonna go all electric
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  by, you know, 2027 by 2029, and the dial kept moving towards 11.
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  Right?
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  So 20, 35.
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  And now we're walking back from that.
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  And one of the things that I think resonates with what I saw from Cars News
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  Network is Jim Farley, the CEO of Ford, put out a statement and inside of there,
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  there was a paragraph that I pulled out and I'll, I'll read it for you.
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  It says, Ford CEO, Jim Farley was inspired to lead an overhaul of
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  the automaker's electric vehicle strategy after examining rival EVs.
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  And on a recent podcast, Jim Farley said he came down to the shocking.
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  Quote unquote realization that Ford needed a major company reset after
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  tearing down Tesla and the Chinese EVs, and noticing how much less electrical
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  wiring they required, yada, yada, yada.
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  And despite a recent EV slowdown in the us, Farley believes EV
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  innovation remains vital globally.
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  However, in that same breath, yeah, yeah.
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  EVs are great and wonderful.
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  It continues on.
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  The one line that you pull out of that is Ford is considering
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  scrapping its electric F-150 pickup, which means the lightning is gone.
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  Mach E sales are down.
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  I mean, obviously there's all the controversy over Mustang Mach e,
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  Mach E, what is it really called?
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  Who cares what it's called?
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  Right.
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  I don't know if that's really controversy.
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  That's just us going back and forth, like boomers about badge engineering.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, enthusiasts aren't happy about it, but, but the real thing is the
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  sales numbers of Mach E, they were okay.
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  They weren't great, but the F-150 lightning, as we know, that kept
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  getting its truck bed handed to it in every competition it was put in.
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  Sometimes it would pull ahead of like a cyber truck or whatever, you know, one
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  of the other electric EVs that's out there, but it's not what people want.
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  Right?
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  And the whole farce of it can charge itself.
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  You remember that whole thing and you're like, it doesn't surprise me in
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  a world of a hundred thousand dollars pickup trucks that the F-150 lightning
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  is not something that people want.
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  I thought we'd been talking about manufacturers backtracking on the.
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  Full ev thing for like the last year though.
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  That's not something that's new.
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  Yeah, it's not new.
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  And a lot of it has to do with the tax credit, incentives, whatever,
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  for purchasing 'em being erased.
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  Right.
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  Suddenly people don't wanna buy 'em anymore, which I'm like,
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  how much was this incentive?
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  Really?
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  It's not like they were free.
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  They were still really expensive.
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  Yeah.
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  Overly expensive.
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  Well, relief might be in sight, and I feel like I'm being partially
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  vindicated here in some ways.
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  I've been arguing for six years now that we needed to borrow
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  40-year-old trained technology and come up with a better hybrid system
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  than the hybrid that we're using.
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  And we saw inklings of this in the past.
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  If you guys remember, Audi had built that two liter turbo generator system on one
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  other Decar prototype things, and it ran it like 9 billion RPM to make electricity
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  to power the electrical system.
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  One of their e-tron prototypes or whatever.
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  Well, that.
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  Is sort of the way people are starting to lean in the market now you're seeing more
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  reports of we should use gas and diesel as a generator to create electricity
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  and we can double and triple the range of these electric vehicles with like
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  a one cylinder gas power generator.
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  I mean, they're gonna be bigger than that, right?
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  They're gonna be four cylinders, more than likely, stuff like that.
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  But I found it funny.
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  There was an article from the Audi Club and I just started
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  singing Diesel's back, back again.
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  Diesel's back because TDI hybrid Audi launching the next generation V six diesel
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  for its Q five and its a six series.
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  So Dieselgate on the end of the world, diesels are back, baby.
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  Well, not here though.
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  Not yet.
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  It's only a matter of time.
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  Mm. All they have to do is make them actually cleaner without cheating.
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  And as a generator, they can do that because it's basically idling and they
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  can come up with all sorts of exhaust, gas recirculation, catalytic, combustion
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  incineration process to make it super clean and emit, you know, wafts of
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  rat breath out the back or something.
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  I don't know.
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  But the point is, in my mind, diesel electric hybrid, as I've
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  been saying, makes way more sense.
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  And I know big oil doesn't wanna hear that because they wanna sell more gasoline.
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  Right?
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  Big oil sells diesel too, at like $700 a gallon too.
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  But that's just it.
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  So is this gonna affect the price of diesel long term that, you know, we can
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  get into all that whole economic debate.
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  But the thing is, it makes more sense to have like a high torque, low rev
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  diesel little generator than a gas motor that's gotta run at, you know, 9,000
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  RPM to generate the same kilowatt hours that's necessary to charge the system.
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  So I'm really excited about this.
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  I feel like it's 10 years too late.
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  Like we should have started at this point, not done the fully electric unicorn farts
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  and you know, lithium powered everything.
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  Excited to see where this goes.
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  Longer term.
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  Yes.
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  $150,000. Audi TDI.
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  Did you expect anything less?
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  Meanwhile over at Jaguar, we talked about this car before.
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  Remember the one that they officially showed at Pebble Beach this year,
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  which had only been in like concept drawings and designs, and you're
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  like, man, did AI generate this car?
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  It looked like something out of Batman in the animated series.
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  Super cartoony Jaguar.
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  And then, you know, they went through the whole backlash with changing the
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  logo and you know, Jaguar lost its weight and all this kind of thing.
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  Well, as a result of all the negative publicity from the Type zero zero
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  concept, that cartoon Jaguar, I was just referencing, they fired Jerry
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  McGovern after 20 years at Jaguar who.
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  Exactly if you're in that circle, the circle of Land Rover, Jaguar,
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  Tata, and all that kind of stuff.
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  Apparently he's designed some iconic models like the defender and and stuff
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  like that, which are kind of cool, like if you like that sort of thing.
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  They're kind of cool, but that Jaguar type, double zero,
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  whatever was just a step away from what anybody actually wanted.
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  The reason I bring up this Jaguar, and you guys are like, well, who cares?
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  We know that thing's ugly.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Not surprised he's fired.
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  Have you seen the new A four sedan?
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  Oh, so Audi hired him.
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  Right.
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  The front end is very nineties alpha to me.
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  The way the headlights go and the the square should be the,
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  not a square, but that's trash.
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  It looks like a Lego car.
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  It looks like the back end of a wide body IMSA car from the eighties.
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  The Nissan Skyline silhouette with the box flares.
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  Yeah, it looks like the back of that is on the front.
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  I also immediately thought Chrysler 300.
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  Oh yeah, I get that.
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  This is a garbage scowl, but this is the new design language.
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  All the Audis are gonna look like this now.
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  Then they're all gonna look like trash.
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  Yeah.
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  And they're not going to sell and they're gonna change it again to something worse.
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  To something worse.
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  I mean, what is this like Bugatti front end?
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  I mean that's what it reminds me of.
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  I don't even think the grills were this square in the eighties.
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  No, because they were rectangles.
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  Never was there a square grill maybe in the auto union days
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  of like 1932 or whatever.
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  Not even those.
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  Those were like more oval.
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  It's ugly.
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  The square grill's from like a Mack truck.
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  You know Volkswagen owns man trucks, so maybe they're just borrowing
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  from their design department.
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  It kind of does look like a semi, maybe somebody missed a meeting and they got
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  Joe Blow from the blue collar division to come in and it was like, yeah, just
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  throw a square on the front there.
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  How is that aerodynamic?
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  I mean this straight up looks like you photoshopped and just said, let
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  me cut a rectangle out of the front of like a regular A four and then
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  let me just like copy and paste this image and just like put it on.
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  That's what this rendering looks like.
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  To that point, do we know that this is actually what the car's gonna look like?
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  Well, this is a still a concept, right?
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  Yeah.
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  So like all concepts, it could look nothing like this.
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  No.
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  But like everything I see here says new A four rendering by motor one.
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  Like this isn't the concept car actually built by out?
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  Oh, well then this is exactly what I said is some dude in Photoshop
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  just copying and pasting chunks of something else onto a regular A four.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  This is non-New.
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  This is clickbait.
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  No, but if you go back to the pictures of the concept C, which they linked to, it's
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  the same design language, Tanya's point, they probably grafted the front end of
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  that, onto the current a four body, you know, and kind of fix it up a little bit.
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  But the new car has this look to it with the square grill and everything else.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It just, it's pretty terrible.
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  So Audi's concept is in there.
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  It's the concept C. Yeah.
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  So motor one took, like I said, a screenshot of this.
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  Change the color in Photoshop and put this on a regular A four and
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  said, Ooh, we should make an A four.
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  Hey, let's write an article about this.
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  It looks like trash though.
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  Let's make this shit up and write article.
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  See, concept C doesn't look good either.
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  No, it actually looks better as this concept C. Yeah, because it's
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  proportions, but it's still garbage.
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  Yeah, it looks better as a coop for one thing.
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  And like to Tanya's point, like the proportions and everything look better.
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  Audi in the concept C did a better job than Jake the intern at MO
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  on when he did the Photoshop.
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  Well, moving right along, we have to introduce a whole bunch of new cars if
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  we're gonna pay for the Audi F1 program.
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  So Volkswagen is lining up a new wave of models for 2026.
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  I feel like your logic is flawed.
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  Uh oh.
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  You don't need to make new cars.
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  You need to sell more cars.
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  I think that's where they're messing up.
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  Oh, is that what it is?
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  Yeah.
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  They can make all the cars they want.
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  If they're not selling 'em, they're not making any money.
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  Just make more cars that people want to actually buy.
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  Top tip.
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  So to your point, scroll through this list of new Volkswagens.
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  There's not a ton of them here.
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  Are any of these appealing to you?
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  None of these are being sold in this country.
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  Yes, but they'll eventually make their way here, won't they?
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  No.
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  25 years.
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  No, nothing.
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  This small is gonna come over here.
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  Yeah, but what about the ID era and the ID cross, which looked like the ID four
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  and whatever the bigger one is than that.
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  Id declare none of these are coming here.
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  That was good.
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  I'm gonna just say it.
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  These have a very like BYD sort of look to them.
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  Is that where we're leaning now in terms of like, we need to copy them
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  because they're leading the market.
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  They have A what?
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  A what?
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  Look to 'em.
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  B-Y-D-B-Y.
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  I don't know what that means.
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  The Chinese EV maker.
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  Oh, okay.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  I thought you were saying like, bring your own design team.
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  That's what it stands for.
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  I'm sure.
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  No, that was the motor one article.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Bring your own intern.
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  No, I will say we're never gonna get whatever this.
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  Polo thing is that's at the top.
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  I don't even know what this thing's called.
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  Maybe it's the ID three or maybe it's the smaller one.
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  It doesn't really matter.
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  I do like this nineties.
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  What was her name?
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  Lisa Frank.
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  Remember those folders?
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  We had the Trapper Keepers and we had the Lisa Frank stuff.
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  This is the Hot Pink.
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  Enough to be Lisa Frank.
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  Sorry.
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  But it's like a Harley Quinn thing though.
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  Did you notice the colors?
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  It goes back to the mark three Harlequin.
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  I think this is a cool livery.
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  Yeah.
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  We may have to put an earmark on this and look at it more closely and study
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  it for an upcoming project, which we're gonna talk about later in the episode.
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  But I, I really like this livery.
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  It's, it's very chaotic.
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  It's unfocused.
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  We are not gonna put this on pumpkin spice.
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  Definitely not.
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  All.
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  What's next?
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  Well, we have a little bit of
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  Stellan news.
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  All right.
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  I'm just gonna read the title here and get your guys' opinion.
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  This comes from the drive.
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  It says, Jeep is selling a V eight Wrangler for $70,000, but you
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  have to be a veteran or active military to be able to buy it.
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  Stupid.
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  I, I don't get this.
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  I just don't understand why you'd probably sell more if you didn't have
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  to be active military or a veteran.
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  I was gonna say, maybe this is a way just to show a little appreciation
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  for the active military at $70,000.
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  Well, there's a, so one thing, it's $70,000 starting very, very expensive.
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  Like, so an infantry man's not gonna be able to afford that shit.
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  And then two, what this really is, is a publicity stunt.
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  Yes.
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  They're gonna sell more of the other Jeeps because people are gonna
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  come in, oh, you guys are doing something great for the military.
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  You know what I'm gonna, I'm gonna spend my money with you.
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  The Jeep Stir Commando.
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  Well, that's a name for you.
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  This jeepsters going commando.
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  It is.
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  Have you seen these doors?
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  I, I have seen these doors.
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  Yeah.
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  They might as well not even exist.
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  Mm. That's a lot of tubing.
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  It's not roll cagey enough.
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  This commando's got a lot of tubing.
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  Well.
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  I also like how there's seemingly the attachment for the
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  spare tire on the trunk door.
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  Yet the tire's in the trunk, buddy.
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  Hey, it's got a Hemi.
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  It's got a Hemi.
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  And did you realize that it has a Hemi?
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  And what are you doing with this wildly unstable, horribly handling
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  vehicle with V eight in it, you're spending an additional $11,500 and
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  adding a Whipple supercharger to it.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Now you have a Hellcat.
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  I mean, come on now.
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  Yes.
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  Now you've got a Hellcat boosted to 705 horsepower.
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  Just two horsepower, shy of a Hellcat.
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  Look at that.
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  Yep.
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  How many people are gonna take this off road?
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  Gun it and crash it because, well, they kind of have to
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  because there's no malls anymore.
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  So there's nowhere to drive your Jeep.
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  They're gonna make 250 of 'em.
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  And to Tanya's point, I think they're going to wreck 250 of 'em.
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  There's a lot of No for me here, dog, it's no for me.
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  I don't like the white wheels.
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  Other than that, I think it's cool.
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  The thing is a marketing stunt, a publicity stunt, it's not
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  doing anything for anybody.
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  See, and this is where you and I differ.
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  I actually like the wheels.
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  I don't know why, but that's like the most appealing part of this thing.
• 17:15
  So I wonder if they're gonna do like Tesla did and put a clause
• 17:18
  in the purchase agreement that you can't turn around and flip it.
• 17:23
  Ah, that's probably true.
• 17:25
  Alright, the next one.
• 17:27
  I have been following this build for years and I am so
• 17:33
  excited that it's finally done.
• 17:34
  And when I saw this video, I had to share it with you guys.
• 17:38
  The Pacific Cat is done, the hell cat powered Pacifica is on the
• 17:44
  road and it is freaking awesome.
• 17:46
  This thing is amazing.
• 17:48
  So that's a minivan I would buy.
• 17:51
  I sent this to my wife and I was like, so what do you think?
• 17:53
  And she's like, you're insane.
• 17:55
  Yeah, she just sighed.
• 17:56
  And then she's like, no.
• 17:57
  And I'm like, damn.
• 17:59
  I will say this, if I could put those wheels at that stance on my wife's
• 18:04
  Pacifica, just that and the flares.
• 18:06
  Oh, it look amazing.
• 18:07
  Like, I like the body lines of the Pacifica.
• 18:09
  And that's weird to say, 'cause it's a van.
• 18:11
  It's just a big wagon.
• 18:12
  It is, but it's kind of sporty, right?
• 18:14
  Yeah.
• 18:15
  But it needs to be more sporty.
• 18:16
  And this is like extreme sports.
• 18:18
  This is X Games, 700 plus horsepower.
• 18:21
  Extreme, right?
• 18:24
  It's like Harold and Kumar going through the seven 11 or the
• 18:28
  Circle K or whatever it was.
• 18:30
  Ah, this thing is aw, smoky burnouts in a minivan.
• 18:33
  I mean, does it get any better than that?
• 18:35
  Mm.
• 18:36
  No, that sound of that supercharger.
• 18:38
  Mm. That's just delicious.
• 18:40
  Yeah.
• 18:40
  Yep.
• 18:41
  Well, since we're speaking of Stellantis, I got an opportunity to
• 18:45
  rent yet another Stellantis product.
• 18:47
  So I gotta give you a little renter review here.
• 18:50
  Why?
• 18:51
  Guess what?
• 18:51
  I got to drive when I was down in Florida.
• 18:53
  Oh, oh, oh.
• 18:55
  Um, I don't know.
• 18:56
  Brand new God start, it's like 2016 brand new Grand Wagoner L. The only
• 19:06
  thing as big as that is the expedition.
• 19:09
  Max monstrosity.
• 19:11
  Mm. Third row with a trunk.
• 19:15
  Big enough for coffins.
• 19:16
  I mean, this thing is a yacht.
• 19:17
  It's probably the biggest thing I've driven since the old Autocrossers Inc.
• 19:21
  Autocross van, if you remember that.
• 19:23
  You know, 17 passenger church van.
• 19:25
  Yeah.
• 19:25
  Back in the day.
• 19:27
  I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it either because it's too big.
• 19:30
  It was too big in general parking, it was a nuisance.
• 19:32
  It didn't fit in most parking spots.
• 19:34
  It was too long.
• 19:36
  Too wide, whatever.
• 19:37
  Driving it wasn't really that different than my Jeep.
• 19:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:42
  A lot of the creature comforts in my Jeep are there, but they're
• 19:45
  now very much more digital.
• 19:47
  Everything is like super high gloss and behind the touchscreen.
• 19:50
  I mean, I have a touchscreen in my Jeep, 11 years old, but it's much simpler.
• 19:54
  It's more intuitive.
• 19:56
  The icons are bigger, they're easier to determine.
• 19:58
  Like I knew where everything sort of needed to be, but it took a minute to
• 20:01
  orient myself Again, driving, it was like any other Stellantis product.
• 20:05
  It handled like any other Stellantis product to fit and
• 20:07
  finish was what I expected.
• 20:09
  Is it worth $150,000 MSRP?
• 20:12
  No.
• 20:14
  Is it as nice as my Jeep inside 10 years ago as a summit edition?
• 20:18
  Yes.
• 20:19
  Is it nicer than the current Jeeps?
• 20:22
  Yes, but I'm gonna go back to, is it worth $150,000?
• 20:27
  No, I feel like it's probably worth 80.
• 20:29
  Yes.
• 20:30
  And the regular Wagoner is probably worth 45 or 50, and the Grand
• 20:37
  Cherokee should be in the 30 range.
• 20:39
  The Cherokee should be in the 20 range, and yeah.
• 20:41
  So on and so forth, down.
• 20:42
  That's not how car pricing works, unfortunately.
• 20:45
  Yeah.
• 20:45
  But that's where I think these vehicles should be.
• 20:48
  No, I, I agree with you.
• 20:49
  A thousand percent.
• 20:50
  And it wasn't just a, you know, a round kissimmee type of thing
• 20:54
  with the wagoner, you know, dealing with stop and go traffic.
• 20:56
  We drove it long distances.
• 20:58
  Uh, and I'll talk about this a little bit more as we go along.
• 21:00
  We started our trip in Fort Myers and Fort Myers to Orlandos three hours plus.
• 21:05
  Yeah.
• 21:05
  Despite it being big and bulky and cumbersome, it was super comfy.
• 21:09
  It was a nice place to be, especially with four people and
• 21:12
  luggage and everything else.
• 21:13
  You really were not pining for space in any way.
• 21:16
  It was, again, it was super comfortable.
• 21:18
  And then after three hours in the truck, you got out and it's like, huh.
• 21:22
  It wasn't, it wasn't even hateful.
• 21:23
  The seats are super comfortable.
• 21:25
  I will say the only thing that was really obnoxious was.
• 21:29
  A feature that I don't have in any of my cars, which is the
• 21:32
  lane guidance assistance thing.
• 21:34
  And so the Wagoner is so big, it takes a while to sort of orient where the
• 21:39
  corners of it are, where the edges of it are, and it is wider than my Jeep,
• 21:43
  even though my Jeep's kind of a big old hippopotamus going down the road.
• 21:46
  I found myself maybe skirting the edge of the lane a little bit where the
• 21:50
  white line was not like going off on the shoulder and it would try to correct.
• 21:53
  And what it would do is it would bump the truck over, but because it was
• 21:56
  so big, it would bump over to the other line and it would bump it back.
• 22:00
  So it was playing this like ping pong back and forth in the lane and
• 22:03
  the guys are like, are you okay?
• 22:04
  And I'm like, watch, it's doing it itself.
• 22:06
  And I would let go and it, you would just move it back and forth a couple of inches.
• 22:11
  This is so annoying.
• 22:13
  And I couldn't figure out how to turn it off.
• 22:15
  And it was one of those features that I don't think you could permanently
• 22:17
  disable it, or I had to dig 12 menu layers deep to figure that out.
• 22:22
  I'm like, it's a rental, I'm just gonna give it back after a couple days.
• 22:24
  I don't wanna sit here and you know, that be the cause of somebody else's
• 22:28
  problem, so I'll just live with it.
• 22:29
  But you were always on the knife edge when you were driving it.
• 22:32
  It was pretty pronounced how it would bump the truck over.
• 22:36
  When it thought you were going over the lane and it has these big flag mirrors
• 22:40
  too, so they're already sticking out past the body and it doesn't take much for
• 22:44
  those sensors to suddenly pick up the line when the mirror is sticking out 18 inches.
• 22:49
  Like most stellantis truck owners have their mirrors extended for no reason.
• 22:52
  This is sort of the same thing from the factory and it, it just blew my mind.
• 22:56
  It was one of the most obnoxious things that I've ever encountered in a new car.
• 23:00
  You know, for that kind of money I would just save half of
• 23:03
  it and get a Yukon XL Denali.
• 23:05
  Haven't they been having engine problems with those though?
• 23:08
  There's recalls in those GMV eights and stuff.
• 23:10
  Yeah, but they've, they've got it all sorted out now and basically if you're
• 23:13
  within thresholds, they'll just put a different viscosity oil in it or they'll
• 23:17
  fix it and give you an extended warranty.
• 23:19
  'cause they have all the parts and stuff now.
• 23:21
  So.
• 23:21
  Nice.
• 23:22
  What was it an issue where there was a shortage on parts and parts
• 23:26
  availability and they couldn't get the trucks fixed and everything.
• 23:28
  That's all workeded itself out now.
• 23:30
  Let's switch gears and talk about Asian cars.
• 23:33
  What about Mercedes and BMW?
• 23:35
  We did that last year.
• 23:36
  We're done.
• 23:36
  Remember?
• 23:37
  Oh, we don't ever have to do it again.
• 23:38
  No, never again.
• 23:39
  Like in another five years they'll have changed the grills again or something.
• 23:43
  Praise Lord, baby Jesus.
• 23:47
  So let's talk about Asian cars.
• 23:49
  I don't know what changed in the Department of Transportation.
• 23:54
  If it's our current administration, whatever, it doesn't matter.
• 23:58
  But suddenly K cars are coming to America.
• 24:02
  Well, they're super cute.
• 24:03
  They're accessories like chihuahuas and handbags, they are.
• 24:08
  I mean, you could fit these K cars in your purse, but you
• 24:10
  know who buys K cars in the us?
• 24:12
  Nerdy white guys.
• 24:15
  Tell me I'm wrong.
• 24:16
  You have to be of a certain build to fit in these too.
• 24:19
  I mean, at your height, Brad, you put on a K car as a shoe, so I'd buy two of them.
• 24:23
  Yeah, pretty much.
• 24:24
  Right now, I do think this Honda, the Modelo X or whatever, is super cool.
• 24:29
  I've seen some videos of these in Japan.
• 24:32
  They're mid engine.
• 24:33
  You could put the roof in the FR and the FR is tiny, like it holds like,
• 24:37
  you know, three wrenches kind of thing.
• 24:38
  I mean the cars are super compact.
• 24:40
  Oddly enough, it's like MR two meets S 2000.
• 24:45
  It has that kind of vibe going.
• 24:47
  I like it.
• 24:48
  I'd love to drive one just to see, and I think it wouldd be super cool
• 24:51
  if they start making left hand drive ones and bring them over to the States.
• 24:54
  Yes, there is a subculture in the American automotive landscape
• 24:59
  that will buy this for sure.
• 25:01
  But the, the bigger question is if we're allowing new K cars to come
• 25:04
  in, what does it mean for old K cars?
• 25:07
  No, because I think it's the st the same overarching rules still apply.
• 25:12
  There's been folks that have been importing 'em for years.
• 25:15
  There's actually a huge shop in like Virginia that brings in K
• 25:18
  cars that are over 25 years old.
• 25:20
  You know, the typical gray market stuff.
• 25:21
  But does this mean we can start bringing over any K cars?
• 25:25
  And even here there's an update from Department of Transportation that says
• 25:28
  manufacturers must certify that they meet US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety standards.
• 25:32
  So if we're going to import a K car, unless we change those standards to
• 25:36
  allow those, the k cars that they create must meet those standards.
• 25:41
  So the old ones that were created before don't.
• 25:44
  So they have to wait.
• 25:45
  The 25 year rule is my understanding of it.
• 25:48
  Tanya, would you buy a K car?
• 25:50
  No.
• 25:51
  No, she bought a K car.
• 25:54
  I thought you'd be like one of the first people in line for something like this.
• 25:57
  You don't, you don't like K cars?
• 26:00
  Uh, you just haven't found the right one yet.
• 26:02
  I know which K car I want.
• 26:04
  Oh, which one is it?
• 26:05
  It's called the Fiat Panda.
• 26:06
  Alright, that's fair.
• 26:07
  I'll give you that.
• 26:08
  Not the Al Alpha Romeo Wagon, whatever.
• 26:11
  Cross Cabo something.
• 26:13
  Something something, something, something.
• 26:14
  Yeah.
• 26:14
  Whatever that stick with that thing was the longest name ever.
• 26:17
  Yeah.
• 26:17
  Good job there, my man.
• 26:18
  Yes.
• 26:19
  In other Asian car news, this is the sickest station wagon
• 26:24
  I've seen in a long time.
• 26:25
  Tell me I'm wrong.
• 26:25
  The S magma, the Hyundai Magma series.
• 26:29
  Look at this thing.
• 26:30
  The Genesis, smegma wingback, the G 90.
• 26:34
  Look at that color.
• 26:34
  Look at those wheels, look at those flares.
• 26:36
  I mean, this is Audi RS six avant territory that Genesis
• 26:41
  slash Hyundai is going in.
• 26:43
  Am I wrong?
• 26:43
  Well, no, that's what they always do.
• 26:45
  That looks sick.
• 26:47
  Remember the stinger?
• 26:48
  Yeah.
• 26:49
  Stinger's basically an A seven or it looks like an A seven, which should
• 26:52
  have come in a stick shift, but we'll just leave that where it is.
• 26:54
  Yeah, I would buy one of these.
• 26:57
  Yeah.
• 26:58
  Stop me.
• 26:58
  Stop me.
• 26:59
  'cause the price is like $200,000, I'm sure.
• 27:02
  But Tanya, you have a very discerning eye when it comes to this sort of thing.
• 27:06
  What do you think of the G 90 magma?
• 27:09
  Wingback got a very asked and rear end.
• 27:12
  Yes.
• 27:13
  The double spoiler is.
• 27:15
  Interesting.
• 27:16
  Yes.
• 27:16
  All of this is good.
• 27:18
  The weird shark fin thing on the roof.
• 27:21
  On the edges?
• 27:21
  Yeah.
• 27:22
  Unsettling from the side angle.
• 27:24
  It's for aerodynamics.
• 27:25
  It looks cool from the front.
• 27:26
  You know, I think it's, if they got rid of those weird twin shark fins
• 27:31
  or whatever you wanna call those ribs, the line would be much better.
• 27:35
  That's for the roof rack though.
• 27:36
  That's why those are there.
• 27:38
  So you, you don't have a wagon.
• 27:39
  You don't understand roof rails.
• 27:40
  I get it.
• 27:41
  Excuse me.
• 27:42
  How many wagons have there been made that have roof rails
• 27:45
  that look better than this?
• 27:46
  We did not need to reinvent roof rails.
• 27:49
  They just integrated the roof rails into the body as opposed
• 27:52
  to slapping everyone separately.
• 27:54
  Basically these are aerodynamic roof rails.
• 27:56
  They also provide lateral down force.
• 27:59
  Okay.
• 27:59
  It was tested in a wind tunnel.
• 28:01
  Okay.
• 28:01
  In some country that you can't pronounce.
• 28:03
  Okay.
• 28:04
  And the Formula one team that's involved, or the LAMA team
• 28:07
  that's involved said it was good.
• 28:09
  Okay.
• 28:09
  Is good.
• 28:11
  That's a beautiful color.
• 28:12
  I'll give him that.
• 28:13
  This is the hotness fire right here, despite the name.
• 28:17
  Well, Hyundai's gotta do something to get us excited.
• 28:19
  Right.
• 28:20
  I'm really, I'm really interested to see what happens with their WEC
• 28:23
  entry in the next couple years.
• 28:25
  Here's the K car we should all have.
• 28:27
  I was just about to say that.
• 28:28
  Tanya stole my thunder.
• 28:29
  Yes.
• 28:30
  This is the K car that we all deserve because Honda's just
• 28:33
  click baiting us with this teaser.
• 28:36
  They are re-releasing or they're releasing a new fit only for the Chinese market.
• 28:42
  So we're not gonna see, not gonna see another Honda fit here, but
• 28:45
  they did this, I don't know, rendering of it in in race trim.
• 28:50
  Yes, please.
• 28:51
  Can we have another Honda Fit Race series?
• 28:53
  Seriously, that'd be super fun to see these B spec cars, is it just me or does
• 28:58
  it look like a little hamster, like it's going to like nod a carrot or something?
• 29:01
  It does, yes.
• 29:03
  It's got these like buck teeth.
• 29:04
  It does absolutely better front end than that Audi.
• 29:07
  Yeah, you're very right about that.
• 29:09
  And I didn't plan this, but I mentioned the m mr two earlier.
• 29:12
  But what is this that you brought us here?
• 29:14
  Well, they haven't said what it's going to be.
• 29:16
  And of course they show pictures of an m mr two because that's their
• 29:20
  previous mid-engine sports car.
• 29:23
  But allegedly Toyota is confirming they will be bringing another midg
• 29:28
  engine sports car, you know, might be a few years out, but it's coming.
• 29:32
  And then they show a picture of the one they built out of
• 29:36
  like the Yaris or whatever.
• 29:38
  Right.
• 29:39
  And it's like are we gonna get a Yaris with a Midg engine or are
• 29:42
  we gonna actually get something like a breezy with a mid engine?
• 29:47
  Ooh.
• 29:47
  But not the breezy but the The GR Toyota version of the Cleo Sport.
• 29:52
  That's exactly what I was thinking.
• 29:54
  Completely useless for everyday driving.
• 29:56
  Who cares?
• 29:57
  That's awesome.
• 29:59
  I think we should go back to the second generation, MR two.
• 30:02
  I mean I like the RS, the Mr. Spider.
• 30:05
  I drove those.
• 30:06
  The poor man's lease.
• 30:07
  I mean the lease and the mr. The MRS are basically the same
• 30:09
  thing at the end of the day.
• 30:10
  Similar power plant, all that borrowed from the the sica, but the body lines
• 30:15
  of the second gen, MR two, if they were modernized and brought into today,
• 30:20
  like you, we've seen some of the body kits for the GR 86 that make it look
• 30:24
  like the 80 86 of the popup headlights.
• 30:26
  I think that stuff is all ultra fantastic and those are the directions
• 30:29
  that Toyota should be going in.
• 30:31
  I think they could reintroduce the second generation MR two today.
• 30:35
  It's the perfect size.
• 30:37
  Just do it right for 2026 and you've got a boxer killer on top of it all.
• 30:41
  If they want to go toe to toe with Porsche, Tanya, you always
• 30:44
  bring us the latest and greatest.
• 30:46
  What have you got for us?
• 30:47
  Well, we have the, uh, recent article from Car and Driver about future
• 30:52
  electric vehicles that you'll soon be able to buy, but these aren't
• 30:56
  necessarily around the corner for sale.
• 30:58
  They could be concept to actually being in production and oh, lo and
• 31:02
  behold, look, there's that concept C Audi in the picture, ma Ma.
• 31:07
  But there is that Lancia looking rivian thing again that we talked
• 31:11
  about a bunch of months ago that is still super cool looking.
• 31:15
  This whole article is kind of contradictory to what we were
• 31:18
  talking about at the beginning about how manufacturers are
• 31:21
  scaling back on the whole EV thing.
• 31:23
  Well scaling back.
• 31:25
  So it means they still have to make some.
• 31:26
  Yeah.
• 31:27
  And you got in here, aside from Okay.
• 31:30
  Some of the, the usual players.
• 31:32
  You got Acura coming out with an RSX.
• 31:34
  An RSX.
• 31:35
  We're BRA engineering, the RSX name.
• 31:38
  'cause this thing looks like an SUV.
• 31:40
  This thing looks like a Euros.
• 31:41
  It's huge.
• 31:42
  It's terrible.
• 31:43
  Like this should be the MDX and it's an ev, but apparently this is expected
• 31:47
  in the second half of this year.
• 31:49
  Oh.
• 31:49
  So who knows?
• 31:50
  Awful.
• 31:51
  You got Sony apparently gonna come out with that Aila.
• 31:54
  What?
• 31:55
  Which I first saw like several years ago at the Consumer Electronics Show.
• 31:59
  Apparently that's actually becoming real.
• 32:01
  We haven't been following Sony and what they were doing.
• 32:03
  They're alleging that there's one expected late this year.
• 32:06
  Wow.
• 32:07
  You've got Alpha Romeo with a GI BI am really interested in that actually.
• 32:12
  If you kept the body the way the Julia's always looked, that's a handsome ev.
• 32:17
  It would be the best looking ev on the road.
• 32:19
  Hands down.
• 32:20
  Yes.
• 32:20
  Unlike its cousin, the Stelvio God, which is interesting.
• 32:23
  I thought the Stelvio was pretty much dead, a gunner.
• 32:27
  So the fact that they'd wanna try and make an EV out of that seems interesting.
• 32:31
  You got Alpine entering the foray.
• 32:34
  Those are hot.
• 32:35
  And here look at this Audi, TTEV.
• 32:38
  So that concept C. Tt, I think I threw up a little bit artistic license in
• 32:43
  writing this to say this is a tt.
• 32:45
  I don't think in any way has Audi, you know, said that they're
• 32:49
  gonna be coming out with a tt.
• 32:50
  But nonetheless, this is the concept.
• 32:51
  Oh, well.
• 32:52
  So, so that's funny you say that.
• 32:53
  You know how the other, the A four was photoshopped?
• 32:55
  Yes.
• 32:55
  Look at the roof line on this one and tell me they didn't Photoshop.
• 32:59
  Oh yes.
• 32:59
  This front end on a T. Oh yes.
• 33:00
  That's a tt Gen one TT roof line.
• 33:03
  Yeah, it is.
• 33:04
  As a TT owner, I can vouch for this.
• 33:06
  Yes, that is what they did.
• 33:07
  That is terrible.
• 33:08
  Whatever's going on with that Audi, that's ridiculous.
• 33:11
  And then of course you've got Bentleys and BMWs.
• 33:13
  Of course, they're staying with their I Series.
• 33:15
  But look at that grill on that.
• 33:17
  Im three.
• 33:18
  Oh my God.
• 33:18
  That is horrible.
• 33:20
  Yes.
• 33:20
  The, uh, that car looks like a mark eight or mark nine Lancer is what that is.
• 33:26
  Bad three.
• 33:27
  Looks like it is.
• 33:28
  It's bad.
• 33:28
  It's terrible.
• 33:29
  Oh, it looks like that Infinity.
• 33:30
  The Infiniti I 30.
• 33:31
  Yes, yes, yes.
• 33:32
  From the nineties.
• 33:33
  Yes.
• 33:34
  You know what I will give them credit for though?
• 33:36
  If those wheels are for real?
• 33:38
  They look really, really cool.
• 33:39
  I think those are neat.
• 33:40
  You are on an island, my friends.
• 33:42
  Didn't something have something like that similar or no?
• 33:45
  I don't know, but they look super slick.
• 33:46
  Like the way wheels are being made these days is just amazing what they think.
• 33:50
  What do we think of the catter?
• 33:52
  The the what?
• 33:53
  Once you get past the BMWs.
• 33:55
  What's that?
• 33:56
  Hater em, sorry, I think I pronounced it incorrectly.
• 33:59
  Is that an vora?
• 34:00
  I don't know.
• 34:01
  That's what it looks like.
• 34:02
  Kind of.
• 34:02
  It is stunning.
• 34:04
  That's a good looking car.
• 34:05
  Yes.
• 34:06
  And here's a surprise, the bolt's coming back.
• 34:09
  Oh.
• 34:09
  Boo God, it looks even more like a shopping cart than it did before.
• 34:14
  I actually like the Bolt.
• 34:17
  I went out the other night and did an Uber and the person that picked me up
• 34:22
  had a Chevy Bolt and I was impressed with the Chevy Bolt, this Ferrari ev.
• 34:28
  We got Ferrari being Ferrari really, because that SUV was so successful.
• 34:32
  Now we gotta be an ev, let things lie anyway.
• 34:36
  Yeah.
• 34:36
  How about here you go, magma.
• 34:39
  Oh God.
• 34:40
  I instantly love it.
• 34:43
  So can we talk about the Hoffmeister kink?
• 34:46
  Do you guys know what that is?
• 34:47
  I recently learned about it.
• 34:48
  What?
• 34:49
  The Hoffmeister kink.
• 34:50
  Uh, okay.
• 34:52
  What happens if I google Hoffmeister kink?
• 34:54
  Do I hit enter right now?
• 34:56
  You don't Google that.
• 34:57
  I, I believe it takes you to the wrong kind of website.
• 35:00
  You never Google anything with the word kink in it?
• 35:02
  No, I haven't hit enter, so I'm, I'm, but, but you can look it up.
• 35:05
  But maybe put automotive hoffmeister kink that could give
• 35:09
  you some other search results.
• 35:11
  Oh, no.
• 35:11
  Okay.
• 35:12
  It came up the very first.
• 35:13
  Okay.
• 35:14
  Alright.
• 35:14
  So I learned from John Summers the motoring historian.
• 35:17
  Mm. Okay.
• 35:19
  This goes back to 1960s Ferrari.
• 35:21
  There's the Super Americas cars are very swoopy, you know, very beautiful lines.
• 35:27
  And then the glass has this like cut in it.
• 35:29
  It's very sharp, it's very angular on a car that's very curvy, like the Super
• 35:32
  America and the Luso and all those.
• 35:35
  This thing, the Hoffmeister kink, it's like a signature of those
• 35:38
  Ferraris apparently that carried forward into the modern cars.
• 35:43
  It's to break up those swoopy lines and give you something to
• 35:47
  like focus on for whatever reason.
• 35:49
  So all modern cars apparently now have this hoffmeister
• 35:53
  kink, which I don't understand.
• 35:55
  I'd rather see a smooth line.
• 35:57
  It was developed by a German dude for BMW.
• 36:00
  Well, there you go.
• 36:01
  It was on those Ferraris way back when.
• 36:03
  It's like, I don't like it, but it's clear and present on every new design.
• 36:07
  The mark one Volkswagen has a kink where apparently that is considered
• 36:12
  a kink in the back window of the GTI.
• 36:15
  Yep.
• 36:15
  But it works for that car.
• 36:17
  Do you mean liking the mark one Volkswagen as a kink?
• 36:19
  It might be these days.
• 36:22
  The E 36 has a kink.
• 36:24
  Yeah, it does.
• 36:28
  Scratch that.
• 36:29
  Reverse it.
• 36:30
  Willy Wonka style.
• 36:31
  Okay.
• 36:31
  What made you think of this?
• 36:32
  'cause the magma doesn't have a kink.
• 36:34
  It's that swoopy thing in the back that, no, it's not.
• 36:37
  The kink comes down.
• 36:38
  It goes back the opposite direction.
• 36:40
  Yeah.
• 36:40
  Yeah.
• 36:41
  But there's a lot of new cars that still have, so this magma doesn't have that.
• 36:44
  This magma goes just to a tip to the back.
• 36:46
  It actually looked bad.
• 36:47
  It probably looked better if it was a kink, 'cause it would
• 36:49
  have curved back the other way.
• 36:50
  But yeah, that's what reminded me.
• 36:52
  'cause it's so pronounced.
• 36:53
  It's like a penant.
• 36:54
  It kind of reminds me of, remember the first gen focuses had the
• 36:57
  penant window on the back.
• 36:59
  It was like a triangular window on a hatchback.
• 37:01
  It never made any sense to me design-wise.
• 37:03
  It was like, why didn't you square it up?
• 37:05
  I guess they didn't want to make it look like a golfer, a Reno,
• 37:07
  Cleo, or anything like that.
• 37:09
  This catering has a kink that is an example of the.
• 37:12
  The glass turned back to meet the bottom.
• 37:15
  And look how that looks.
• 37:16
  Nice.
• 37:17
  It looks nicer than if they made it a point.
• 37:19
  But if you look at the Chevy Bolt, doesn't that also have the kink?
• 37:23
  Yes.
• 37:23
  It's very, very subtle and it's awful.
• 37:26
  It looks terrible.
• 37:27
  Well, this, there's other issues.
• 37:33
  But anyway.
• 37:33
  The one car you were calling the Lancia, apparently it's a Honda.
• 37:38
  What?
• 37:38
  I thought that was a rivian.
• 37:39
  You were calling it Rivian?
• 37:41
  Yeah.
• 37:41
  A weird wedge.
• 37:42
  No, I think that one looks like a Lamborghini from the A Lamborghini.
• 37:46
  Yeah.
• 37:46
  That's a Honda.
• 37:47
  No, the fir.
• 37:48
  Yeah.
• 37:48
  That pickup truck looked like a rivian.
• 37:50
  These are all getting terrible.
• 37:51
  Ooh, the Kevin is back.
• 37:53
  E like Kev.
• 37:54
  Like Kev, yeah.
• 37:56
  Remember the commercial Kevin Bacon?
• 37:57
  Eev like Kev.
• 37:58
  He's got his daughter in the car and he's like embarrassing her.
• 38:00
  It's like a Super Bowl commercial.
• 38:02
  No.
• 38:02
  Oh yeah.
• 38:03
  This is the SOB 900 Turbo s. That's what this is.
• 38:06
  I mean the, you, you guys, it goes on and on and, and Lucid and Lotus
• 38:11
  and Lexus and Mazda, Mercedes.
• 38:15
  We didn't talk about them.
• 38:16
  We are not allowed to talk about them.
• 38:18
  System we're not.
• 38:18
  So we'll skip over the various Mercedes and they have a
• 38:21
  lot a Mitsubishi Lancer ev.
• 38:25
  They're gonna desecrate the name Lancer with a bizarre looking smushed.
• 38:29
  SUV.
• 38:30
  There's an ev and of course you have, you know, Polestar and whatever have you.
• 38:34
  The Porsche Cayman and Cayenne EVs, rolls Royce.
• 38:38
  And then, yes, the Rivian R two, which I thought was already out,
• 38:41
  but I guess it's coming out.
• 38:43
  Now I want the R three and the R three.
• 38:45
  The R three is so good.
• 38:49
  It is a fi panda.
• 38:51
  Ah.
• 38:51
  They didn't kink it though.
• 38:53
  They didn't kink That glass doesn't need the kink.
• 38:56
  Look at the glass.
• 38:56
  It looks perfect.
• 38:57
  Without the kink.
• 38:58
  The line of this car does not need the kink.
• 39:01
  Kink is in the back.
• 39:02
  Brad is just, he's, he's not buying it.
• 39:06
  I'm still trying to understand what the kink is.
• 39:09
  I was too scared to Google it.
• 39:10
  Look at the scout and it'll make sense to you.
• 39:12
  No, you can Google it.
• 39:13
  Hoffmeister kink, the very first thing that'll come up is the appropriate thing.
• 39:16
  Okay, now I, now, now I got it.
• 39:18
  Okay.
• 39:18
  For some reason I was thinking the rear glass, like the back glass.
• 39:21
  Oh no, no, no.
• 39:22
  The side back glass.
• 39:23
  Do they actually explain why this does this?
• 39:26
  I think it's just a design.
• 39:28
  A design thing, because if not, it'd be awkward.
• 39:30
  You either have to round it like they did on that R three.
• 39:33
  You're coming to a point which is just awkward and probably very
• 39:36
  difficult to manufacture the glass.
• 39:38
  Right.
• 39:38
  And also probably structurally having that kink, flattening it out
• 39:44
  there probably does something to the structural rigid or integrity of the
• 39:49
  the side panel and the glass itself.
• 39:51
  I can see that I totally want an R three.
• 39:54
  Right.
• 39:55
  They're awesome.
• 39:55
  Yeah, right.
• 39:56
  I could see getting one of these in a couple years once
• 39:59
  the boys are outta daycare.
• 40:00
  That's my goal.
• 40:01
  That'd be fun.
• 40:02
  And if it is truly starting under 40,000, I don't believe that for a second.
• 40:08
  37 to 47, I'm sorry.
• 40:11
  No, but one of the more interesting things on this list in terms of seeing
• 40:15
  how this actually plays out is the slate.
• 40:17
  Yeah.
• 40:18
  The Bezos truck.
• 40:20
  Oh my God.
• 40:21
  To see how this actually turns out it, I think that'll be interesting to keep
• 40:25
  our eyes on this year and into next year.
• 40:28
  So obviously the list goes on and on and on and on, and
• 40:31
  Toyota and Volvo and et cetera.
• 40:33
  So apparently, even though everybody's rolling back their EVs, they're keeping
• 40:37
  some in the lineups until they aren't.
• 40:40
  These aren't all confirmed, so, but you know what else isn't confirmed?
• 40:44
  Things that are lost.
• 40:45
  So let's switch to Brad's favorite part of the drive through.
• 40:48
  Lost and frowned.
• 40:49
  I don't believe you scoured the internet or called Chuck La Duck or
• 40:52
  Gray Chevrolet over the winter break.
• 40:55
  No, but I found something for you guys.
• 40:57
  I'd mentioned this.
• 40:58
  Probably before I mentioned the other rado that was modified, that they
• 41:02
  had turned it into a station wagon.
• 41:04
  They used the Audi 90 rear lights.
• 41:05
  I dunno if you guys remember that one eventually, that sort of became
• 41:07
  the polo station wagon way back when.
• 41:10
  But have you guys heard about the like one-off Rado Cabrio Le Nope.
• 41:15
  Horrible name for the video.
• 41:17
  Yeah, it's, it's pretty terrible.
• 41:18
  Who would've thought it would've worked as a Cabrio?
• 41:21
  It looks really good, man, seeing this car.
• 41:24
  Not as the Cabrio though.
• 41:25
  I'm like, shit, every time I see a Rado I'm like, I want
• 41:29
  a carrado in my life again.
• 41:30
  And then.
• 41:31
  I think if I get a carra in my life again, I will regret every minute of it.
• 41:36
  You know, like, ugh.
• 41:37
  So I'm confused.
• 41:39
  Okay.
• 41:39
  So Volkswagen actually made this car.
• 41:41
  Volkswagen commissioned a design house to create a Cabrio Le of the Carrado as
• 41:47
  a concept, and I think they built like two of them or something like that.
• 41:49
  But this guy, private guy owns one of them, and so he does this little tour,
• 41:54
  drives around and shows everybody.
• 41:55
  It's one of those forgotten things, sort of like the Rado station
• 41:58
  wagon that I was just mentioning.
• 42:00
  Every time you see it, you're kinda like, yeah, I like that.
• 42:02
  They should have done that.
• 42:03
  Like what were they thinking?
• 42:05
  They should have sold more rados.
• 42:07
  They should have sold them for longer.
• 42:09
  They should have evolved it yet again and continued the Rocco line because there was
• 42:13
  a period of nothing between the Rado and the next generation Mark, six based Rocco.
• 42:18
  There was not a whole lot going on there, so I think they could have
• 42:21
  stretched out that lineage a little bit.
• 42:23
  Now granted, there's some fallbacks there because the longer you keep the
• 42:27
  rado going, while at that point the Mark fours would've been out, let's just say
• 42:31
  the Rado was using a Mark two chassis, so we're talking eighties technology
• 42:36
  with a nineties body, and now you're building it into the two thousands.
• 42:39
  That would've been pretty crazy.
• 42:41
  I can understand why they had to kill it off.
• 42:42
  It just doesn't make sense to continue to keep the tool and die around for a
• 42:47
  platform that doesn't exist anymore.
• 42:49
  But I think they could have evolved a rado and kept it going.
• 42:51
  But stuff like this, I mean, just imagine instead of that weird.
• 42:55
  Mark three and a half Cabrio le that we got, that's like a mark three
• 42:59
  in the back and a mark four in the front, and you know, nothing's cross
• 43:02
  compatible between the generations.
• 43:03
  That's what we ended up with instead of this, which would've been super cool.
• 43:08
  Again, if they had made one, I would've really considered collecting one.
• 43:12
  You know, have a Coupa and a convertible.
• 43:13
  I think that'd be super cool.
• 43:14
  Tanya, any car commercials you'd like us to review for Lost and Found this month?
• 43:18
  Do not have one this time.
• 43:20
  Next time.
• 43:21
  By the next time we'll actually have Super Bowl commercials to review.
• 43:25
  Oh yeah, that's right.
• 43:26
  Exactly.
• 43:27
  We'll have a whole slew of car commercial and they'll probably
• 43:30
  be wildly disappointing.
• 43:31
  Tanya's holding out for the good stuff.
• 43:33
  Exactly, so it's a new year.
• 43:36
  Do we have a new New Year's resolution or are we gonna stick with last year?
• 43:40
  Are we allowed to talk about Tesla in 2026?
• 43:43
  That was our resolution last year.
• 43:46
  Yeah.
• 43:47
  I think we'll make some exceptions.
• 43:49
  Oh, okay.
• 43:50
  Only when it's comical and it paints Tesla in a bad light.
• 43:54
  Only when it's talking about the cyber truck and how the sales have
• 43:58
  plummeted like a rock off Mount Everest.
• 44:04
  Nobody wants these.
• 44:07
  It's my fault.
• 44:08
  Had I bought mine, they would've been negative 14,999 instead of 15,000.
• 44:15
  And here's the the hilarious thing.
• 44:17
  Cyber Truck was America's bestselling electric pickup in 2024.
• 44:21
  Wasn't it like the only I, it it was between that and the F1 Lightning.
• 44:26
  I don't think there were any other pickups.
• 44:28
  No.
• 44:28
  But the F1 lightning barely didn't even, I, I don't even remember when it came out.
• 44:33
  Yeah, maybe they came out pretty close, I guess.
• 44:34
  Nonetheless, they sold 39,000 cyber trucks during the first full year.
• 44:39
  On the market in 2024.
• 44:41
  Mm-hmm.
• 44:41
  And then the sales got cut in half.
• 44:44
  They estimate that only 20,200 were sold in 2025.
• 44:50
  Wow.
• 44:50
  Even though Muskie would have said they were gonna sell, like, I don't know,
• 44:54
  over a hundred thousand or 200,000 or some BS that he had floated at one
• 44:58
  point of all, all they were gonna sell.
• 45:00
  And now apparently, I think they're saying they're just
• 45:03
  like sitting in lots right now.
• 45:06
  I just realized that the entire design of the cyber truck is a hofmeister kink.
• 45:14
  There's a kink.
• 45:15
  There's a kink.
• 45:15
  No, there's is no kink.
• 45:17
  No, this is great.
• 45:19
  The back bumper is a kink.
• 45:20
  If you look at the side view of it when you scroll down.
• 45:24
  Oh, the one that's covered in vomit.
• 45:25
  Well, where you see all the dirty hand smudges all down the side of it.
• 45:28
  Yeah.
• 45:28
  Yes.
• 45:29
  The, the perfect profile of the side.
• 45:31
  This is what happens when you don't do a kink.
• 45:33
  They didn't do a kink on that back glass.
• 45:35
  It's straight down.
• 45:36
  And then they didn't kink anything on that front glass.
• 45:39
  It comes to a point, look how dumb that looks.
• 45:42
  Yeah.
• 45:42
  There's nothing kinky about the cyber truck.
• 45:48
  It is Kless.
• 45:50
  I see more of these on the road, and the wraps are crazy and they
• 45:54
  look terrible in every color.
• 45:55
  Whether it's red, orange, yellow, blue, black.
• 45:58
  You have to wrap 'em because they look like vomit.
• 46:01
  If not, okay, so if you go further down, there is a graph showing the
• 46:07
  pickup trucks that were sold in 2024 and 2025, the electric pickup
• 46:13
  trucks, Uhhuh, the cyber truck, the lightning, the Rivian R one, they're
• 46:17
  considering the Hummer, a pickup truck.
• 46:20
  Oh, okay.
• 46:21
  I don't really think it is.
• 46:23
  The Silverado ev, which I've seen a few of those around here.
• 46:25
  I actually kinda like 'em.
• 46:26
  And then the Sierra Ev, which is just the same thing as the Silverado ev.
• 46:30
  You know, you reminded me of something Brad, and maybe we'll
• 46:32
  have to have him on the show to talk about life with Hummer Ev.
• 46:37
  If you remember Big Drew who has been off-roading Jeeps and he
• 46:41
  had his G wagon and all that.
• 46:43
  He got rid of all that stuff.
• 46:44
  He now has a Hummer Ev.
• 46:46
  And he said when we had talked to him last time about off-roading for him that would
• 46:49
  be like the pinnacle offroad vehicle.
• 46:51
  Like that's the one he want.
• 46:52
  He finally got one.
• 46:53
  And I'm wondering, A, if he took it off-road and B, what it's like
• 46:57
  to be an owner of a Hummer ev.
• 46:58
  So maybe we'll have him back to talk about that.
• 47:00
  I can't imagine.
• 47:01
  It's very good off-road being 200,000 pounds.
• 47:03
  So the question I would have sometimes being discerning of graphs and data.
• 47:08
  The cyber truck came out in 2023 uhhuh, so yes, it technically
• 47:12
  had a full 2024 sales year.
• 47:15
  The F-150 didn't come out till April.
• 47:17
  The Silverado didn't come out till like June.
• 47:19
  Or mid-year sometime the cyber truck had a headstart on these
• 47:23
  guys and it barely eked out.
• 47:25
  Actually, the F-150, I had never seen this data before.
• 47:29
  I'd never paid attention to how many F1 fifties were sold.
• 47:32
  Who cares?
• 47:33
  So I wonder if the F-150 had come out.
• 47:35
  Earlier in 2023 alongside the cyber truck.
• 47:39
  This might be a different graph because in 2025 it outpaced the cyber truck.
• 47:43
  And to that point, like its drop off might've been proportional though,
• 47:47
  because all the early adopters were going, all the people that were going
• 47:50
  to buy them would buy them first, and then the casual customers would kind
• 47:56
  of stroll in and you know, pick one up.
• 47:59
  All the diehards would've bought them at first, so the sales would've come
• 48:02
  down because it's the early adopters and everybody that are buying 'em
• 48:06
  and not the people that necessarily are just looking for a vehicle.
• 48:08
  But then there's also the, all the problems with it.
• 48:12
  Well, bricking, you can't get it wet.
• 48:14
  It rusts because yes, I have a vehicle that I cannot get wet.
• 48:18
  The panels blow off and fall off and the accelerator pedal breaks
• 48:23
  underneath you and the, and the console disintegrates quality.
• 48:28
  I wonder how much of that also contributed to a downward decline in sales.
• 48:33
  Yeah.
• 48:34
  Nah.
• 48:35
  Yeah.
• 48:35
  How much of whistling diesel contributed to the decline in sales?
• 48:39
  Nah.
• 48:40
  Moving on to the segment.
• 48:41
  That has changed more times than Brad has changed his socks over the years we're at.
• 48:46
  Seriously, what could go wrong formerly?
• 48:49
  Lowered expectations.
• 48:51
  Lowered expectations.
• 48:57
  This one takes the cake.
• 48:58
  Tanya, you spent a week with a rental Ultima.
• 49:00
  I'm just gonna throw it out there.
• 49:02
  You did what?
• 49:02
  Now I'm gonna say it again.
• 49:03
  She spent a week with an Altima.
• 49:07
  Well, actually I was gonna bring this up.
• 49:08
  I had the rare opportunity to actually sample some of JD M's.
• 49:15
  Finest over a short period of time for a variety of reasons.
• 49:19
  So not only did I have a rental Ultima, but I also had a rental Elantra.
• 49:25
  And I had a rental Kia.
• 49:26
  A rental Kia what?
• 49:28
  Kia?
• 49:28
  Soul.
• 49:29
  Kia Soul.
• 49:29
  Okay.
• 49:29
  No Kia Rio from like 1995.
• 49:35
  Did the buy one get one free?
• 49:36
  Yeah.
• 49:37
  Yeah.
• 49:37
  So Hyundai, Kia, and Nissan, for all intents and purposes, who came out on top?
• 49:43
  Who came out on bottom?
• 49:44
  The Kia Really not surprised.
• 49:47
  The, the Kia Souls in a condo car.
• 49:49
  The Elantra and Ultima are mid-size family sedans.
• 49:53
  Yes.
• 49:53
  And the Kia.
• 49:55
  Felt its economy.
• 49:56
  Yeah.
• 49:57
  Literally in its fuel economy as well as its quality of interior and, and the feel
• 50:05
  and the sad motor that it tried its best.
• 50:08
  How were those cardboard seats?
• 50:11
  The surprise in this?
• 50:13
  Actually was the Elantra.
• 50:15
  Oh really?
• 50:17
  The Elantra would give you in the forties, miles per gallon all day long.
• 50:23
  I was shocked.
• 50:24
  And it's got a nice little gauge and it's telling you as modern
• 50:27
  cars do, like where you're falling in the band and all that stuff.
• 50:30
  And it was like, I drove around and around and some cruising,
• 50:34
  like long distance on the highway.
• 50:36
  I thought for the longest time after driving like two hours and stuff, that
• 50:41
  the gas needle was broken and the gas gauge didn't work because it did not move.
• 50:46
  Mm. And and I'm watching the thing and it's going, you're
• 50:48
  doing 45 miles at a gallon.
• 50:50
  I'm like, bullshit.
• 50:51
  I am.
• 50:51
  This is a big ass car.
• 50:53
  I went around and around in a two hour drive and a two hour drive back
• 50:57
  and then here and there in city and highway practically returned to full.
• 51:01
  It was ridiculous.
• 51:02
  I mean, great.
• 51:03
  I'll also say the interior wasn't terrible.
• 51:07
  It was fine.
• 51:08
  It wasn't the most luxurious.
• 51:10
  Having also recently been in some other Japanese cars, there are
• 51:14
  more luxurious interiors in that same kind of range of car that you
• 51:19
  could get in a similar price range.
• 51:21
  Probably Also, see, the other thing about the Kia, which might have swayed
• 51:25
  me, not really, there was a smoker in that car and that car fucking wreaked.
• 51:32
  Wreaked.
• 51:33
  And I should have returned it immediately on the spot, but I did not.
• 51:36
  Eventually I got used to the smell, which was pretty bad.
• 51:38
  But anyway, the Altima, so get to the Altima.
• 51:41
  Oh boy.
• 51:42
  So I, I had Elantra.
• 51:44
  Kia and then the Altima.
• 51:45
  Save the best for last.
• 51:47
  Yeah.
• 51:47
  Yeah.
• 51:47
  Save the best for last baby.
• 51:49
  When I was still in the rental car garage, I snapped a photo and sent it to you.
• 51:54
  And what was wrong with that Altima?
• 51:56
  The front bumper was hanging off slightly from the, they
• 52:00
  come that way from the factory.
• 52:02
  It's like Fiats in the seventies with the rust.
• 52:04
  Altimas do not come fully put together.
• 52:07
  It's like some assembly required, but here is my legitimate, okay,
• 52:11
  I got in the Altima, get out of the airport, all that stuff.
• 52:15
  Get on the highway, whatever, wherever I'm going.
• 52:17
  Before you get, did you do any antics in the Altima?
• 52:20
  Did you go full Altima driver?
• 52:22
  Of course not.
• 52:23
  You jumped some curbs.
• 52:24
  Did you reenact Bullet.
• 52:26
  Did you bounce off of some telephone poles?
• 52:29
  Did you pay for the insurance?
• 52:31
  No.
• 52:31
  But kid you not.
• 52:33
  I literally had the thought while I'm driving this car.
• 52:36
  This car gives no fucks.
• 52:40
  It's a on badger.
• 52:41
  This car is here for it.
• 52:44
  All the Elantra and the Kia, they were sitting there driving you
• 52:48
  back into the lane constantly.
• 52:49
  Boop, boop, boop.
• 52:50
  This boop, boop, boop, that the Altima you wanna drive in the middle
• 52:53
  of the road on the yellow line.
• 52:54
  I'll downshift for you.
• 52:55
  Let's go.
• 52:57
  Those are the Tima vibes.
• 52:58
  Okay.
• 52:59
  The Ulta is the Ultima's a Ride or Die?
• 53:03
  The Tima literally is there for you.
• 53:05
  Yeah, that's why it's the number one selling vehicle at Nissan,
• 53:08
  despite the fact that it's the only vehicle that Nissan sells.
• 53:12
  I, I wanna buy an Ultima now.
• 53:13
  I will say the, the, the Elantra though, like interior and everything
• 53:17
  was still slightly superior.
• 53:19
  I had a little bit nicer finish and polish to it.
• 53:22
  The Ultima felt a little, little plasticy inside.
• 53:25
  Rough around the edges.
• 53:27
  Yeah.
• 53:27
  It was, it was rough on the edges.
• 53:29
  It didn't give a shit.
• 53:30
  Yeah.
• 53:31
  It's just getting you where you need to go.
• 53:33
  Yeah.
• 53:34
  Need dragging pedestrians behind you?
• 53:37
  Well, it's dragging its bumper, it's flapping in the wind.
• 53:40
  All right, so I'm gonna ask this every month until you answer.
• 53:44
  Nope.
• 53:45
  Yes.
• 53:46
  That question is, did you watch the F1 movie?
• 53:48
  Not yet.
• 53:49
  It's not free yet, but it's Do you pay for Apple?
• 53:53
  Not, not yet.
• 53:53
  If you pay for Apple tv, you're waiting for the F1 season.
• 53:56
  I get it.
• 53:57
  So the last minute, you wanna get the maximum out of that
• 53:59
  Apple subscription you possibly.
• 54:01
  Exactly.
• 54:01
  Exactly.
• 54:02
  The Olympics are happening first.
• 54:04
  Okay.
• 54:04
  Yes.
• 54:05
  Then Formula One.
• 54:06
  Yes.
• 54:07
  Since we're in the middle of winter, really cold, and we've
• 54:10
  got some huge storms coming here.
• 54:12
  Destined for some inclement weather.
• 54:14
  Probably as you're listening to this, we're on the other end of some inclement
• 54:18
  weather that hit us pretty hard.
• 54:20
  This is borderline Florida.
• 54:22
  Man.
• 54:22
  I don't know if you guys saw this Instagram reel that was going around and
• 54:26
  it's not artificial intelligence, you know, generating a video to be funny or
• 54:30
  any, you know, somebody being a parody.
• 54:32
  I literally watched a video and I must have watched it 10 times 'cause
• 54:35
  I didn't believe what I was seeing.
• 54:37
  A woman was using one of those small, like little portable snowblowers and
• 54:41
  I'm not talking like the Ryobi one, I'm talking like the neck size up.
• 54:44
  Okay.
• 54:44
  So I'm not sure if it was gas powered or what to clear off their car from the hood.
• 54:50
  Up through the windshield with the snowblower back and forth and back and
• 54:55
  forth, and every time they went back and forth, I just cringed and said, I
• 54:59
  wonder how their windshield got busted.
• 55:01
  Can you believe the stuff that people do?
• 55:04
  Like how hard is it to clear your windshield considering there are
• 55:07
  so many people out there that just don't fucking do it after
• 55:09
  a snowstorm and they just drive?
• 55:11
  It's probably pretty hard.
• 55:12
  Apparently.
• 55:13
  I wouldn't think it was that easy to get the snowblower up on the car.
• 55:17
  I would think it would be harder to go through the effort of this, whatever
• 55:20
  the snowblower thing was than to just even use your arm if you don't
• 55:25
  have an ice scraper or something.
• 55:26
  Right.
• 55:26
  She did it for the grim, basically.
• 55:28
  She looked like an older lady, so I don't know that she was TikTok in
• 55:31
  the old folks home kind of thing.
• 55:33
  Right.
• 55:33
  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 55:34
  But but before we go any further, I think there is a
• 55:39
  question that needs to be asked.
• 55:40
  Okay.
• 55:41
  Was it an Altima?
• 55:43
  Yes.
• 55:43
  Yes.
• 55:45
  Yes, because it's here for it all.
• 55:48
  As Tanya says, it's here for all of it.
• 55:50
  Okay.
• 55:50
  Yes.
• 55:50
  So that's what got me.
• 55:52
  'cause I was like, there's no way the windshield's cracked because ultimas
• 55:55
  will survive nuclear holocaust and there's no way that the paint is chipped
• 56:00
  because you could go through Armageddon with an Ultima and it will last.
• 56:03
  And I kept thinking the snowblower has augers.
• 56:06
  It should have torn up the hood.
• 56:07
  Nah.
• 56:08
  Ultimas are bulletproof.
• 56:09
  It's all good.
• 56:10
  So if you own an Ultima and you have a small snowblower, apparently
• 56:13
  you can clear off your car.
• 56:15
  Yep.
• 56:15
  Again, what could go wrong And then they drive 150 miles an hour down
• 56:19
  the road on the wrong side of the road because there's no lane assist.
• 56:21
  So what's stopping you from
• 56:25
  Alright, so book club.
• 56:26
  I am on a mission to get through some automotive books.
• 56:30
  I've got a backlog of them.
• 56:31
  So, you know, I just wanna throw a plug out here.
• 56:33
  Finally finished the revised edition of Brock Yates's tome,
• 56:39
  the love letter to Enzo Ferrari.
• 56:41
  It's the history of Enzo Ferrari from the very beginning up until his death
• 56:44
  in 1988, and this version was updated by his daughter because of the Ferrari movie
• 56:51
  that had come out a couple of years ago.
• 56:53
  I will say, if you're a Ferrari fan, read it.
• 56:55
  Get the audiobook on Spotify or Audible or wherever, check it out.
• 56:59
  It's immensely detailed.
• 57:01
  You can tell that it is a little biased.
• 57:03
  Brock Gates seem to be a big fan of Ferrari, although he kind
• 57:07
  of poo-poos on the Europeans.
• 57:08
  You know, very pro-American stuff like that.
• 57:10
  It, it is what it is.
• 57:11
  It was written quite a long time ago, but it is one of the definitive
• 57:16
  Ferrari books, especially when it comes to Ferrari history.
• 57:18
  So I enjoyed it.
• 57:19
  It's quite long.
• 57:20
  Book itself is hundreds and hundreds of pages, and the revised edition adds
• 57:24
  another couple of chapters because it goes up through Schumacher and
• 57:28
  current days and the return of Mon de Zilo and all this kind of stuff.
• 57:31
  So it's updated for the current times up until the movie a couple of years ago.
• 57:35
  So Enzo by Brock Yates is on my recommended read list.
• 57:39
  If you are a automotive historian or a automotive enthusiast, nerd.
• 57:43
  That's that.
• 57:44
  But speaking of Ferrari, we need to switch to rich people.
• 57:47
  Thanks.
• 57:50
  So I mentioned I had rental wagon here and went on a little trip to Florida.
• 57:55
  This is a multi-layered story here, but I will say this.
• 57:57
  Shout out to our friends at the Revs Institute, Naples, Florida.
• 58:00
  I'd never been before.
• 58:02
  So before going to the 2026 Mecu auction, I took a little detour to go
• 58:07
  visit Lauren Goodman and Arthur down at Revs and hang out there and see
• 58:10
  the museum and all that kinda stuff.
• 58:12
  Never been before, always heard good things from people that had
• 58:15
  been, didn't know what to expect.
• 58:17
  When I went there, I kept my expectations low thinking, ah, car museum.
• 58:20
  How good could it be?
• 58:21
  The minute you walk into Revs, you suddenly realize you're
• 58:24
  on a whole nother level.
• 58:26
  The place is immaculate.
• 58:27
  It's well curated, it's fascinating.
• 58:29
  The cars are interesting, the people are interesting.
• 58:31
  It runs like a well-oiled machine.
• 58:33
  I mean, we got the full tour, even the restoration shop, all of it.
• 58:36
  We got to see the new archives that they built in Fort Myers and got access
• 58:41
  to a whole bunch of like photographs and talked to a bunch of people.
• 58:43
  It was absolutely amazing.
• 58:45
  Cannot recommend revs enough.
• 58:47
  I wrote a short article about it with some pictures that
• 58:49
  will include in the show notes.
• 58:51
  So if you're headed to Florida and you can make the Detour to
• 58:54
  Southwestern Florida, go to Naples.
• 58:56
  Go check it out.
• 58:58
  Go check out the cars, ask for Lauren.
• 59:00
  She'll take you around or hook you up with someone there that can take you
• 59:02
  on a really nicely well guided tour.
• 59:05
  It's very much worth the stop over from Revs.
• 59:08
  We went to Mecu in Kissimmee, not too far from Disney World, NEP
• 59:11
  Cot and all that fun stuff right there in the heart of Orlando.
• 59:15
  It's a circus, like that's all I could say.
• 59:17
  Mecu Kissimmee, one of the biggest auctions in the country,
• 59:21
  absolute nonstop for two weeks.
• 59:24
  We were there at the tail end, specifically for the Bachman
• 59:26
  collection and the Bianco Spile, which we covered earlier in December.
• 59:32
  So you can go back to that multi-part mini series that we did Leading up to
• 59:35
  that, we got there trying to get a lay of the land pictures of all the cars,
• 59:40
  you know, what we wanted to see, get the programs and figure out the run order for
• 59:43
  the auctions and all this kind of stuff.
• 59:45
  And so what we did is we set up shop right there amongst all the
• 59:49
  craziness that was happening.
• 59:50
  And we did play by play commentary of the Bachman collection and the Bianco special.
• 59:55
  So there's an episode that dropped on January the 17th.
• 59:58
  You can go back into our catalog and check it out.
• 1:00:00
  And I was there with William from the Ferrari marketplace, John Summers the
• 1:00:03
  motoring historian, and we had David Ions fly in from Ontario, Canada, who's
• 1:00:08
  from Motor Copia, and we had all been part of that miniseries in December,
• 1:00:12
  but we all got together live and did commentary right there from the auction.
• 1:00:16
  It was pretty cool.
• 1:00:16
  So lots of really neat stuff across the blocks.
• 1:00:19
  17 record setting Ferraris, I mean, we're talking Enzos that sold for double what
• 1:00:24
  they should normally sell for F forties.
• 1:00:26
  That broke the record.
• 1:00:27
  2 88 GTOs, 360 challenge s, just all sorts of stuff that
• 1:00:31
  was off the charts expensive.
• 1:00:33
  There was even a Ferrari 400 I that was like in disrepair and motors,
• 1:00:37
  half apart body panels are missing.
• 1:00:39
  And we were like, Hey Willie, you like those cars?
• 1:00:41
  You should bid on that, blah.
• 1:00:43
  It came out the gate and suddenly it's like a hundred thousand dollars
• 1:00:45
  for a car that needs to be put back together that isn't even running.
• 1:00:48
  And it was like just absolute off the chain.
• 1:00:50
  Rich people things.
• 1:00:52
  And so you're probably wondering as you're nodding your head, brag on, yeah.
• 1:00:55
  Ferrari.
• 1:00:55
  Was there more ketchup than there was mustard?
• 1:00:58
  No.
• 1:00:59
  The Bachmans were huge fans of yellow Ferrari.
• 1:01:02
  Most of their collection was yellow.
• 1:01:03
  So if you wanna see Ferrari you've never seen in that fly yellow or some
• 1:01:08
  of the more modern yellow colors, definitely check out the pictures
• 1:01:11
  we have from the Bachman collection.
• 1:01:12
  Just one of a kind.
• 1:01:14
  A lot of them were last of the line cars, like the last one off the production line.
• 1:01:18
  European delivery, crazy color combinations that were
• 1:01:22
  specifically ordered for them, like completely bespoke and all that.
• 1:01:25
  And how many Altimas went across the block and what did they sell for?
• 1:01:29
  Zero.
• 1:01:30
  Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  Here's the thing that boggles me about auctions, right?
• 1:01:32
  It's crazy.
• 1:01:33
  Now Mecu is a little bit.
• 1:01:35
  Less what John Summers likes to call past the butter auctions.
• 1:01:39
  Those are the, you know, the Sotheby's, you know, the Goodings and all those,
• 1:01:42
  like what you would expect if you ever watched the movie, the Red Violin.
• 1:01:45
  That's what those auctions are like.
• 1:01:47
  You know, they're quiet, but you got these auctioneers telling a story and trying to
• 1:01:51
  get people excited and there's someone in the background sipping tea and holding a
• 1:01:54
  little paddle, you know, or gently rubbing their ear or something, you know, whatever
• 1:01:57
  the signal is that they wanna make a bid.
• 1:02:00
  Kom is more like, it's like the farm show auction, and they got the guy,
• 1:02:08
  and it is just this pattern that's constantly going on
• 1:02:11
  nonstop, and they take turns.
• 1:02:13
  They just have auctioneers that just rotate through and they take a
• 1:02:16
  break and it's just, it's bonkers.
• 1:02:18
  And so there's a lot of energy in the room, but it's no ultimas.
• 1:02:23
  No, but Corvettes for $800,000.
• 1:02:25
  You're like, where is the money coming from?
• 1:02:27
  I mean, Yanko, Camaros for millions of dollars.
• 1:02:30
  You're like.
• 1:02:31
  Who's buying these cars?
• 1:02:33
  The amount of money that was crossing the block was absolutely insane.
• 1:02:36
  And I did a rough calculation.
• 1:02:38
  The Bachman collection alone, hammer values before fees.
• 1:02:42
  'cause you always have to tack on like another 10% to everything that sells.
• 1:02:45
  It was like $55 million just for those 40 cars in the Bachman collection.
• 1:02:50
  You're like, they had four to 5,000 cars go through Mecu in two weeks.
• 1:02:56
  And I mean, you're talking again, Corvettes for $800,000 a pop.
• 1:03:00
  You do the math, it's billions and billions of dollars running through
• 1:03:05
  and it's like, where is it coming from?
• 1:03:08
  Where's it going?
• 1:03:09
  Some of these cars, I feel like they rotate from one auction to the next.
• 1:03:12
  Right.
• 1:03:12
  People are buying them and flipping 'em.
• 1:03:13
  They probably didn't even take 'em off the car carrier that, you know, they
• 1:03:15
  probably showed up to collect them on.
• 1:03:17
  So there's a game there too.
• 1:03:19
  I mean, you get some inside baseball and how some of that stuff works, but I'm just
• 1:03:22
  like, that's too rich for my blood man.
• 1:03:23
  It's straight up rich people things.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  So then the crescendo, you know, we were building up to the Bianca Spec.
• 1:03:29
  That's the 19 61, 2 50 GTO Ferrari.
• 1:03:32
  The only one made in white, one of eight right hand drives driven by Graham Hill.
• 1:03:37
  You know, Roy Salvador, all this stuff.
• 1:03:38
  You, you can go back and listen to the whole story.
• 1:03:40
  All the provenance that that car has.
• 1:03:42
  You gotta remember two 50 GTOs don't sell on an auction block.
• 1:03:46
  Normally they are traded like Picassos and Rembrandt and Renoirs.
• 1:03:50
  They're like art pieces.
• 1:03:51
  People don't really drive two 50 GTOs unless you're uh, crazy.
• 1:03:55
  No, the guy from Pink Floyd, what's his name?
• 1:03:56
  Nick.
• 1:03:57
  Nick Mason.
• 1:03:58
  Yes.
• 1:03:58
  Nick Mason.
• 1:03:59
  There you go.
• 1:04:00
  So, at any rate.
• 1:04:01
  This two 50 GTO up for auction.
• 1:04:03
  It's the first one up for auction in like over 10 years or something like that.
• 1:04:05
  So anyway, there's a, there's sort of a range.
• 1:04:07
  When you sell privately, they don't declare like how much things go for.
• 1:04:12
  And so there's sort of a range between let's say like, I think 35 and 75, right?
• 1:04:18
  The guy from WeatherTech bought his for right around 75.
• 1:04:21
  And then there was one that, you know, somebody bought way back when
• 1:04:24
  and wrecked and they died in it, but they never raced it and it had to be
• 1:04:28
  rebuilt and that one was considered a bad one and it sold for like 35.
• 1:04:31
  There was all these projections that either the Bianca was gonna do better
• 1:04:35
  than McNeil's silver one, or it was gonna sit somewhere in the middle, right?
• 1:04:40
  Maybe, let's say 50 million, right?
• 1:04:42
  We're not talking thousands, we're talking millions of dollars.
• 1:04:45
  So we get there.
• 1:04:46
  You could tell that there was somebody on the phone, there was somebody in the room.
• 1:04:51
  There were only a couple people that were in that space, right?
• 1:04:54
  Because they came out opening bid 50 million, and then they had to drop it.
• 1:04:57
  They dropped it all the way down to 25 to try to get some bidding going, and
• 1:05:02
  it just crept up and crept up and crept up, and the whole thing was sort of over
• 1:05:05
  and done with in about 20 to 25 minutes.
• 1:05:08
  Unlike the other cars where they kind of speed 'em through,
• 1:05:11
  they're trying to ramp it up.
• 1:05:12
  They wanna get it back to that 50 million, which is where we thought the
• 1:05:15
  reserve was probably sitting there.
• 1:05:16
  So they took the reserve off at 35, trying to push it to 36, you know,
• 1:05:21
  and that number, and it just sort of sat there and sat there and sat there.
• 1:05:24
  And then they finally settled on 35, which came out to 38 and changed with
• 1:05:28
  fees, but still $35 million for a Ferrari.
• 1:05:33
  Good god.
• 1:05:34
  That's rich people things.
• 1:05:36
  It is pretty though.
• 1:05:37
  It's even prettier in person.
• 1:05:38
  I mean, it's a good, it's one of the best looking Ferrari's hands down.
• 1:05:41
  I mean, it's like that moment they just got it right, you know?
• 1:05:44
  They got it right on all levels.
• 1:05:45
  It was winning and racing.
• 1:05:47
  It was winning in design.
• 1:05:48
  It was just a winning car.
• 1:05:50
  Not to say that they couldn't repeat it later.
• 1:05:52
  But it was just one of those things, you know, but you had to be there,
• 1:05:56
  but you can sort of relive it by re-listening to that episode.
• 1:05:59
  So, and in the end, would I go to another auction as a commentator?
• 1:06:02
  Absolutely.
• 1:06:03
  Could I bid on anything?
• 1:06:04
  No.
• 1:06:04
  Like, it hurts me, like, just to see those numbers.
• 1:06:07
  Like maybe I could go to the, the co-part auction when they're getting
• 1:06:10
  rid of, you know, like an insurance car or an old police car or something.
• 1:06:13
  But that caliber of auction is just, you have to be committed to
• 1:06:17
  what you're buying at that point.
• 1:06:19
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:20
  It looks here that we got some extra notes in the, uh, in our rich people.
• 1:06:25
  What is this value meal?
• 1:06:26
  What's going on here?
• 1:06:27
  It's a different segment.
• 1:06:28
  What is the drive-through, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:06:31
  It's not rich people things.
• 1:06:33
  It's it's value meal.
• 1:06:34
  It's things the everyday person can afford.
• 1:06:36
  Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  That are fun.
• 1:06:38
  Ah, it's rich people things And Goodwill.
• 1:06:41
  Dollar menu.
• 1:06:42
  Maybe it should be Dollar menu.
• 1:06:44
  Dollar menu.
• 1:06:45
  I thought of dollar menu at first and then I thought maybe
• 1:06:48
  that's ripping somebody off.
• 1:06:49
  Do, do, do, do, do.
• 1:06:51
  It's the extra value menu.
• 1:06:53
  Yeah.
• 1:06:53
  Family Dollar.
• 1:06:55
  This ain't Burger King.
• 1:06:56
  You can't have it your way.
• 1:06:59
  No.
• 1:06:59
  But as you know, more and more of us are becoming Lego or brick enthusiasts.
• 1:07:04
  The Brick shop by Mattel has unveiled their latest build,
• 1:07:09
  which is a nineties Honda Civic.
• 1:07:11
  Gee, I wonder who's had one of those before.
• 1:07:14
  I don't know Brad, who had one of those.
• 1:07:16
  Me.
• 1:07:17
  I mean, if this was red, it would look exactly like yours.
• 1:07:20
  It would, it would.
• 1:07:21
  Why did they pick this color though?
• 1:07:23
  Because they already have the Hot Wheels in that color.
• 1:07:26
  Yeah, the Hot Wheels was already in that color.
• 1:07:28
  They already had the paint.
• 1:07:30
  You know, and it's funny because these are becoming more popular.
• 1:07:33
  Mattel is trying to break into that speed champion's Lego
• 1:07:37
  market there the other day.
• 1:07:39
  Well, when I was in Florida, I actually went through a Walmart.
• 1:07:42
  I had to go pick something up and I walked just for giggles.
• 1:07:45
  You walk through the toy aisle, always the Hot Wheels section.
• 1:07:49
  I've never been more repulsed in my life.
• 1:07:51
  It looked like a bomb went off.
• 1:07:53
  I was like, I'm not even gonna bother.
• 1:07:54
  Like, I won't bother with the bins that you see, you know, like
• 1:07:57
  the, the, the 50 gallon drums.
• 1:07:59
  Like, I'm like, ah, it's a disaster.
• 1:08:00
  I'm not dealing with that.
• 1:08:01
  Usually Walmart Target, like they put 'em up on the pegboard and you kind of glance
• 1:08:05
  underneath and you could see everything.
• 1:08:06
  This looked like an explosion.
• 1:08:08
  So I was like, all right, nevermind.
• 1:08:09
  But what caught my eye, it looked over because the Hot Wheels.
• 1:08:12
  These Mattel brick shop, not to call them Legos 'cause they're their own thing.
• 1:08:16
  It's like mega blocks, right?
• 1:08:17
  Or whatever they used to be called are right next to the Hot Wheels.
• 1:08:20
  And I saw the Audi RS two version that they have available.
• 1:08:24
  And for a minute I was like, I'm gonna buy that.
• 1:08:27
  I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna get it, it's gonna be mine, I'm gonna bring it home.
• 1:08:30
  And then I went, I don't have that much space in my luggage
• 1:08:32
  so I'm not gonna do it.
• 1:08:33
  And I'll see if I can find one local.
• 1:08:34
  I had, it was right there, it was like in, it was just within reach and I didn't
• 1:08:39
  do it, but I did buy the Audi 90 GTO car a couple years ago when that came out.
• 1:08:44
  So I have that.
• 1:08:45
  So I was like, ah, so maybe I made a mistake and I'm never gonna find one.
• 1:08:49
  You should have bought it and went straight to the UPS store.
• 1:08:52
  And just ship it to yourself.
• 1:08:53
  It's so stupid.
• 1:08:54
  So stupid.
• 1:08:55
  Oh, well.
• 1:08:55
  But glad to see that Mattel is doing something like this.
• 1:08:59
  I think it's pretty cool.
• 1:09:00
  There's some new stuff coming out from Lego too, which looks super interesting.
• 1:09:03
  So this whole, you know, one 18 scale brick based modeling is pretty neat.
• 1:09:07
  I think this is cool stuff.
• 1:09:09
  All right, segment two F colon r ru.
• 1:09:11
  Faster than an interceptor.
• 1:09:14
  Tanya in parentheses Florida.
• 1:09:15
  Man.
• 1:09:16
  Oh boy.
• 1:09:16
  Ron Burgundy's back.
• 1:09:32
  So I have a Florida man story because I was in Florida.
• 1:09:35
  There was this Ja off driving a Grand Wagoner owl.
• 1:09:40
  Yeah, ping ponging down the road.
• 1:09:42
  No, no, no.
• 1:09:42
  So get this.
• 1:09:43
  So we're on our way from Revs to Mecu early in the morning.
• 1:09:46
  We got up, hit the road figure, we'll knock it out, we gotta pick up William.
• 1:09:50
  'cause he had gone down early, all this kind of stuff.
• 1:09:52
  So it's like, all right, cool.
• 1:09:53
  We get most of the way there and I'm like, anybody else gotta pee?
• 1:09:57
  And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:58
  So there's a Circle K. So I just, you know, bail pulled in a circle K figure.
• 1:10:02
  It's a good time to get a cup of coffee and relieve oneself and, and whatever.
• 1:10:07
  Yeah.
• 1:10:07
  I wander around the circle KA little bit and it's like, ah, before I
• 1:10:09
  buy anything, you know, go pee.
• 1:10:11
  Well, you know, normally I, I don't wanna say you go as a group 'cause you don't,
• 1:10:14
  you try not to, you know, the whole, you know, there's that unspoken rule of space
• 1:10:18
  at the urinal and all that kind of thing.
• 1:10:20
  You know, we all, we all know how it goes, right.
• 1:10:22
  Instead, we all go in together.
• 1:10:24
  John Summers to my right, I'm in the middle.
• 1:10:27
  David Nyan, our friendly Canadian walks into the stall that the door
• 1:10:31
  is open to and all you hear is, whoa.
• 1:10:34
  I'm sorry.
• 1:10:36
  And there's an older guy in there doing his business, wiping himself,
• 1:10:40
  and he looks at David and apparently David is completely embarrassed and
• 1:10:44
  I heard it through the stall wall.
• 1:10:46
  He's just like he.
• 1:10:48
  He like, gotcha sucker.
• 1:10:50
  And then next I hear John Summers go, I suddenly have stage
• 1:10:54
  fright and I'm like, oh my God.
• 1:10:56
  This is the most awkward bathroom situation I could have
• 1:10:59
  ever anticipated in my life.
• 1:11:01
  So can you imagine walking into a bathroom stall and facing a Florida man?
• 1:11:06
  And he's happy by the fact that he snared you in his web.
• 1:11:11
  As he's sitting there in the Circle K bathroom.
• 1:11:14
  Wow.
• 1:11:17
  Your guys' faces say it all.
• 1:11:19
  Was it a Circle K or a Circle J?
• 1:11:22
  Something was amiss.
• 1:11:23
  Something was afoot.
• 1:11:24
  The Circle K. Yeah.
• 1:11:25
  Something's amiss.
• 1:11:26
  And I had to keep him laughing.
• 1:11:27
  Right?
• 1:11:28
  Because I find all of this extremely amusing.
• 1:11:30
  David is so polite.
• 1:11:32
  He closes the stall door and it's just like, oh my God.
• 1:11:37
  That's very Canadian of you, David.
• 1:11:38
  I know, right?
• 1:11:39
  I'm just like, oh, wow.
• 1:11:41
  But can you imagine?
• 1:11:42
  Can you imagine Florida man?
• 1:11:46
  I'm surprised he didn't spread his legs and say, you can go in between.
• 1:11:52
  No.
• 1:11:53
  Ah.
• 1:11:55
  How good of a shot are you?
• 1:11:57
  Here hold this.
• 1:11:58
  Yeah.
• 1:12:01
  Taken so many different ways.
• 1:12:03
  Did you need some help there, bud?
• 1:12:05
  God, it's so good.
• 1:12:07
  Wow.
• 1:12:07
  That's a memory there.
• 1:12:08
  That's unforgettable.
• 1:12:09
  I mean, it's different for me.
• 1:12:11
  David must be still having nightmares about that.
• 1:12:13
  I mean, can you imagine?
• 1:12:14
  It really puts the name of the next segment into
• 1:12:16
  perspective behind the pit wall.
• 1:12:18
  Yeah.
• 1:12:18
  Right.
• 1:12:19
  Well, let's go behind the pit wall for some of motor sports
• 1:12:22
  news, not formula Rolex.
• 1:12:25
  That's it.
• 1:12:26
  Is.
• 1:12:26
  The beginning of the year, Rolex is here.
• 1:12:29
  I cannot tell you the results because we recorded this just before Rolex, and
• 1:12:32
  it's gonna come out just after Rolex, so we'll have to talk about that next time.
• 1:12:36
  But in WEC imsa, SRO News, something interesting that happened during the
• 1:12:41
  winter months came across my desk.
• 1:12:43
  Changes are coming to Lama this year, and a news article that was
• 1:12:47
  sort of buried on Lamont's website.
• 1:12:50
  There's a rendering of the changes that are being made to the infamous
• 1:12:53
  Dunlap Bridge and Dunlap Curve.
• 1:12:56
  They're no longer gonna be called either.
• 1:12:58
  They're going to be sponsored by Goodyear and branded by Goodyear.
• 1:13:02
  Thus connecting the Goodyear Tribune, which is where the Club
• 1:13:04
  de Piot is with La Chappelle.
• 1:13:07
  Over the Goodyear Bridge, through the Goodyear Curves.
• 1:13:09
  Goodyear, Goodyear, Goodyear.
• 1:13:10
  It's all gonna be Goodyear.
• 1:13:12
  I don't know how I feel about it.
• 1:13:13
  I care, but I don't care.
• 1:13:15
  But I care because it's always been Dunlop Bridge and it's
• 1:13:18
  always been Dunlop Curve forever.
• 1:13:19
  Why the sudden change?
• 1:13:21
  If you want to know how I feel about it, I didn't even know it
• 1:13:24
  was Dunlop Bridge before 'cause I paid zero attention to that.
• 1:13:27
  So I, it's a, it, I'm indifferent.
• 1:13:30
  Ah, that's no fun.
• 1:13:32
  I recuse myself, I mean.
• 1:13:34
  Why there is no explanation for that other than money talks.
• 1:13:38
  I mean, iconic at this point, it'd be like painting the Eiffel Tower Blue
• 1:13:43
  and slapping the Goodyear logo on it.
• 1:13:44
  Right.
• 1:13:45
  It's doesn't making any sense to me.
• 1:13:46
  Well, Michelin wouldn't let that happen.
• 1:13:48
  Well, you know, it's kind of funny because correct me if I'm wrong,
• 1:13:51
  and Dunlap's British, right?
• 1:13:52
  It's currently owned by Sumi.
• 1:13:54
  Oh, so it's Japanese then.
• 1:13:56
  All right.
• 1:13:56
  Then was founded by John Boyd Dunlap in Belfast, Ireland.
• 1:14:00
  There you go.
• 1:14:01
  See my memory's still.
• 1:14:02
  Okay, well, speaking of Lamont 2026, my.
• 1:14:06
  Favorite race of the year, though I'm not a, again, I have committed
• 1:14:09
  to Formula One, and we'll talk about that on another episode.
• 1:14:12
  Well, we have to, this year we have to.
• 1:14:14
  Yes.
• 1:14:14
  I have to commit to Formula One for one more year.
• 1:14:16
  Everything's changing and there's new cars and everything, so new drivers, new teams.
• 1:14:21
  Speaking of new cars, but not new teams, you posted a link to the Twitter
• 1:14:26
  feed for the new Toyota Hypercar.
• 1:14:30
  This looks really cool.
• 1:14:32
  Sort of a step away from what they've done before.
• 1:14:35
  Lots more airflow in this design.
• 1:14:38
  I like the front end.
• 1:14:39
  I like the sharpness.
• 1:14:40
  It's got that GR 86 super kind of look to it.
• 1:14:43
  But what do we think about, are we hopeful for Toyota and Laman this year?
• 1:14:46
  They've three years in a row.
• 1:14:47
  It's been Ferrari's game.
• 1:14:49
  It's their year to lose.
• 1:14:50
  Of course, we have to cheer for Ferrari and then I silently
• 1:14:52
  cheer for Poeo to do well.
• 1:14:53
  I know, I know, right?
• 1:14:56
  Well, Porsche's out.
• 1:14:57
  We know that.
• 1:14:57
  Porsche's out.
• 1:14:58
  Lamborghini's out a hypercar.
• 1:14:59
  So there's two teams out.
• 1:15:00
  'cause again, gotta pay for Formula One somehow.
• 1:15:03
  So Toyota's still in the game.
• 1:15:04
  Hyundai's coming.
• 1:15:05
  Ford is coming, probably not this year, but next year.
• 1:15:09
  I still think it would be smart if Ferrari got out, go out on a high.
• 1:15:13
  Cadillac's.
• 1:15:13
  Still there, right?
• 1:15:14
  Cadillac's still there.
• 1:15:16
  BMWI think is iffy, but I, if I recall, they're committed for another year.
• 1:15:21
  And then I gotta look at who else is on the roster.
• 1:15:23
  But L and P one, P one GTP, whatever you wanna call it, is filling
• 1:15:26
  up, it's getting bulky up there.
• 1:15:28
  So there's a lot of people in contention, but Toyota coming with
• 1:15:31
  a new car, it's still Ferrari's race to lose if they commit this year.
• 1:15:36
  So we'll see.
• 1:15:37
  Time will tell.
• 1:15:37
  They have not announced the roster of cars that are going to be at
• 1:15:42
  this year's running of Lamas.
• 1:15:43
  So we'll see.
• 1:15:44
  The other thing I wanted to mention with respect to endurance racing, for anybody
• 1:15:49
  that's been following our digital magazine for a while, you probably caught on
• 1:15:52
  last year, we are carrying Lepert Motor Sports Super T News and they do endurance
• 1:15:58
  races of all lengths around the world, especially Asia and Europe and so on.
• 1:16:02
  So there's like six hours of Dubai, did you know those?
• 1:16:04
  A 24 hours Yas Marina, places like that.
• 1:16:06
  It's super cool.
• 1:16:07
  So we get all of their press information and then, you know,
• 1:16:10
  we run it as part of the magazine.
• 1:16:11
  So if you're interested in more forms of endurance racing than maybe you
• 1:16:15
  weren't familiar with, check out.
• 1:16:17
  Articles that we're putting out following Leaper Motorsport.
• 1:16:20
  There's other teams that you can follow in that series, but I think
• 1:16:22
  it's really cool to check out, you know, the super TRO racing and whatnot.
• 1:16:26
  It's actually pretty good racing.
• 1:16:27
  I mean, the, when they're together as a spec series, the cars are very,
• 1:16:31
  very competitive and it's a lot of fun to see a bunch of R eights
• 1:16:33
  going, oh, did I say that out loud?
• 1:16:35
  Uh, a bunch of Lamborghinis running together on track now, you know,
• 1:16:39
  we talked about Christmas presents.
• 1:16:41
  What we didn't get, I actually got a couple things during the winter break.
• 1:16:45
  I got project motor racing and I got a Seto rally, so I
• 1:16:49
  wanted to follow up on that.
• 1:16:50
  And I also wanted to follow up on the update to a Seto Evo.
• 1:16:54
  Project motor racing is project cars two, race skin the way it
• 1:16:58
  should have been, instead of the pitiful disgraceful disappointment.
• 1:17:02
  That was Project Cars three, which was two cartoony and two Forza, you
• 1:17:06
  know, and all the things that people hated about Project Cars three.
• 1:17:08
  So Project Motor Racing takes us back to Project Cars two and does everything
• 1:17:12
  right that it's supposed to do.
• 1:17:14
  It has its own issues.
• 1:17:15
  It's being updated.
• 1:17:16
  It gets better with every patch.
• 1:17:18
  You know, they're, they are taking the advice of the fans and making changes,
• 1:17:22
  and they're doing them in pretty rapid order, which is pretty cool.
• 1:17:25
  A Seto rally came outta the gate swinging, looks amazing.
• 1:17:29
  Didn't come with a ton of tracks, stages, or cars.
• 1:17:32
  They released their winter pack during these winter months.
• 1:17:36
  It added snow.
• 1:17:38
  And it added a test track in Italy, but it's just a test track.
• 1:17:41
  It's not a winter stage in Sweden or Monte Carlo or anywhere else where
• 1:17:45
  they run rally stages in the wintertime and they added a, a couple new cars.
• 1:17:49
  But it's sort of like you're waiting for that.
• 1:17:51
  Okay, gimme the rest of it.
• 1:17:52
  Moment.
• 1:17:53
  Is it good?
• 1:17:54
  Yes.
• 1:17:54
  Is it amazing?
• 1:17:55
  Absolutely.
• 1:17:56
  Is it visually stunning?
• 1:17:57
  Check, check, check, check.
• 1:17:58
  All the things that a Seto Evo was not Aceto.
• 1:18:02
  Evo always looked good, but the physics was wha and the tracks were, eh, and
• 1:18:07
  the cars were, you just couldn't get over the fact that it was like pre alpha
• 1:18:11
  code that they were giving us in a Seto.
• 1:18:13
  Evo now Evo and rally under the same design house of simulators, but
• 1:18:19
  developed by two entirely different units inside of that same house.
• 1:18:23
  So rally by one team.
• 1:18:25
  Evo by another.
• 1:18:26
  What's interesting is Evo jumped massively when they released version 0.4.
• 1:18:32
  So their fourth release of a set of Evo, that's when they introduced
• 1:18:35
  the Ferrari F 40 lm, bunch of other cars, new tracks and stuff.
• 1:18:40
  And I tell you what, man, I have been driving the heck out of it now.
• 1:18:43
  The physics has improved.
• 1:18:45
  Handling's improved.
• 1:18:46
  Some of the cars are very fragile.
• 1:18:48
  Like I love driving the F 40.
• 1:18:50
  It puts a smile on my face.
• 1:18:51
  The gearbox is absolute garbage, but you get it something like an NSX or a nine 11
• 1:18:56
  Turbo, and they're a lot of fun to drive.
• 1:18:59
  You don't really have to worry about them.
• 1:19:00
  They're a lot stronger.
• 1:19:01
  They're like indestructible in comparison to the F 40, but the F
• 1:19:04
  40, they, the sound alone just puts a smile on my face and running it at
• 1:19:08
  tracks like Mila and Monza and you know, all the famous Italian tracks.
• 1:19:11
  It's just, oh, it's so good.
• 1:19:13
  I am very hopeful now for a set of evos.
• 1:19:15
  So I'm hoping that, you know, version five and six and seven that they put out,
• 1:19:19
  'cause they're on this supposedly monthly, but it's more like when they feel like
• 1:19:23
  it release schedule that it's only gonna continue to progress and it's going to
• 1:19:27
  get where they promised us it would be.
• 1:19:29
  So those are my top three titles right now.
• 1:19:32
  Granted the fact that Lamont's Ultimate JDM, drift Masters, solar
• 1:19:36
  Crowns, they're all, they were all updated during the winter months.
• 1:19:39
  It just takes me a whole bunch of time to go back and kind of mess with them
• 1:19:42
  and play with them and, and get a feel.
• 1:19:43
  So it's hard to jump between games 'cause then you, you gotta get
• 1:19:46
  used to the physics all over again 'cause they're all very different.
• 1:19:49
  But really happy with what's coming out of Project Motor Racing and
• 1:19:52
  the Aceto Rally and Seto Evo stuff.
• 1:19:54
  So, good stuff there.
• 1:19:56
  Brad, I mean, you were a drag racer in your younger years.
• 1:19:59
  I'm not as directly connected to this last bit of Motorsport news here.
• 1:20:04
  John Force officially announced his retirement.
• 1:20:06
  It's about time, 16 time NHRA champion.
• 1:20:10
  I. You almost don't have enough digits to put rings on at that point.
• 1:20:13
  You know what I mean?
• 1:20:14
  It's ally putting him on his to Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:20:16
  Right.
• 1:20:17
  A fill in both feet.
• 1:20:18
  Yeah.
• 1:20:19
  Go for the full 20.
• 1:20:20
  So yeah, John Forcet retires.
• 1:20:21
  That doesn't mean his kids aren't still drag racing.
• 1:20:23
  The forced daughters and, and all them.
• 1:20:26
  So there's a lot still going on in the John Forcet dynasty.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah.
• 1:20:30
  And I, I think he's still affiliated with the team.
• 1:20:32
  He's just not driving anymore.
• 1:20:34
  Yeah.
• 1:20:34
  So it's not the last we've seen of John.
• 1:20:36
  It's just he's not gonna be driving anymore.
• 1:20:38
  And you know, at his age.
• 1:20:40
  That's probably smart.
• 1:20:40
  Probably smart.
• 1:20:41
  Yep.
• 1:20:42
  Or it's the traumatic brain injury he suffered in 2024 from a crash.
• 1:20:47
  That too.
• 1:20:48
  Why do you have to rain on my parade
• 1:20:54
  this year?
• 1:20:55
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• 1:21:03
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• 1:21:18
  This year's GTM Trackside report is gonna take a slightly different turn for 2026.
• 1:21:23
  Instead of talking about, you know, who, what, when and where of HPE
• 1:21:25
  track days and all that kind of thing.
• 1:21:27
  We're gonna use this spot to talk about our latest adventure in racing.
• 1:21:32
  And what is that exactly?
• 1:21:34
  Well, we bought a car because we're gonna go 24 hours of lemons.
• 1:21:38
  Endurance racing.
• 1:21:39
  Woo.
• 1:21:40
  We did not use Brad's pumpkin spice.
• 1:21:43
  Although that was a $500 special, we found another 500 car, two $500 cars
• 1:21:49
  in one Y. That's like, we might as well play the lottery or at least get
• 1:21:53
  SHA GPT to play the lottery for us.
• 1:21:54
  Right.
• 1:21:56
  You heard about that, right?
• 1:21:58
  We got a Ford Focus.
• 1:22:00
  For 500 bucks and we're gonna go racing and it's gonna be awesome and
• 1:22:04
  we're gonna talk about the progress we're making, things like that.
• 1:22:07
  So the first step, you know, acquire the car for the right amount of money,
• 1:22:10
  you know, playing to the lemons rules.
• 1:22:11
  Go check out 24 hour hours of lemons.com so you can kind of get up
• 1:22:15
  to speed of what we're talking about.
• 1:22:15
  If you don't know next stages, we're taking it off to the cage
• 1:22:18
  builder to get all the safety stuff put in fire suppression seats.
• 1:22:23
  You know, all that kind of thing.
• 1:22:24
  So that's the next phase of the project and we're gonna go on from there.
• 1:22:26
  We are gonna have an opportunity for people to get involved with the team.
• 1:22:30
  So look for an announcement about that very soon.
• 1:22:33
  Look to our show notes for how you can be part of the team and put air quotes around
• 1:22:37
  that, how you can help us reach our goal.
• 1:22:39
  We're actually doing this not only just for the fun of racing,
• 1:22:42
  but for a good cause as well.
• 1:22:43
  So if you're looking to donate or be involved, or be there, live
• 1:22:46
  with us as a VIP, there'll be a bunch of opportunities to do that.
• 1:22:50
  So we will, uh, we'll send that link along in the show notes so you can check it out.
• 1:22:54
  And I will say, you know, we're going into this.
• 1:22:56
  We already got a rival.
• 1:22:57
  We got a rival in this field.
• 1:22:58
  Can you believe it?
• 1:22:59
  It's another podcasting team.
• 1:23:01
  So Bill and Vicki from Garage Hero in training.
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  You know, we gotta change your title, we gotta change your title.
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  Team Principal Tanya Bono.
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  Pando.
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  Are you gonna wear your hair?
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  Like straight up like Beekman?
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  Oh my god.
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  Team principal Tanya.
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  That's that's what we're gonna call her.
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  Yes.
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  'cause I'm just now opening the show notes.
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  Hundred percent.
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  Hundred percent.
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