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#227: Evil Toons (1992) - Tubi or Not to Be · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  That did not sound like the ecstatic coupling of young
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  lovers to me. Welcome to What's Your Least
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  Favorite Scary Movie? The podcast where we talk about
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  the good, bad, ugly and absurd, and all of our favorite and
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  least favorite scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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  movie, right? If we has this fan base even.
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  If we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jesse and welcome back to our monthly bonus series
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  wherein we dive into the free streaming services and ask
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  ourselves the question to be or not to be.
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  This is live, uncut and mostly undrawn, so take us as we are.
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  Yeah, we got a, we got a movie today.
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  That is true, we do have a movie.
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  I guess you could call it that. We're talking about evil tunes
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  today. Yes, that was my pick.
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  It's my pick this month. So that's what we got going on
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  here. It it sure is.
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  We don't have the normal announcements or polls or
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  anything like that since it's our Toby episodes, so.
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  So now we just go into Travis talking.
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  We just go ahead and talk about it, talk about it.
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  Should I kick it off by oh sorry?
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  Oh, I was just gonna because I feel like we're gonna have to
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  make a lot of our own fun this episode.
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  Have I ever told the story about how when I was younger I
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  misheard the lyrics to Funky Town?
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  I don't think so. So you know where they go, Taco
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  Bell, Taco Bell I and this says something to the raccoon beast
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  that was inside of me. From a young age, I thought that
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  they were singing Taco Bell. Taco Bell.
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  That's adorable. OK, now that we got that out of
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  the way, we can talk about evil tunes, everybody.
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  OK, so Evil Tunes are released January 8th, 1992.
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  My God. Almost aligned with the stars of
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  Jesse's birthday of the 12th. Oh.
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  My God, yeah. Now how do you?
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  How would you? The evil tune.
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  How would you How would you feel if it was your birthday?
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  I What is waiter opinion on this movie?
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  I'm about to ask my mom if she like started having contractions
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  like four days before having me. If maybe she like read an
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  incantation. Or watch this movie.
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  She's like. Watch this movie by the way,
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  because I was just looking people up.
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  Madison her that plays Roxanne. Her birthday is also January
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  12th. Oh really?
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  Yes. Wow, so damn you've been.
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  Some deep diving on this more than I did.
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  And not really like super deep diving.
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  I just got curious who the the mains where.
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  Who the Madison were? Who the Madison were indeed.
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  So yeah, that was a fun little like, oh, hey, that's cool.
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  So now I've got I've got her, I've got Sporty Spice and I've
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  got Rob Zombie. Wow, you got a crew there.
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  I've got the kids from Sweet Life and Zach and Cody cuz
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  they're twins. And you get.
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  I got Obama. Yeah, I got my old boss.
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  Which? Boss John.
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  OK, OK. Yeah.
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  I guess I can believe that, and that's a super common name.
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  Yeah, it's not like a name people haven't ever heard.
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  Yeah, OK. Now that we got that out of the
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  way, well, we'll talk plenty about the cast here in a minute,
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  OK? OK, So the place we watched
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  this, there you go to be There you go.
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  Yeah, you. Forgot where we were at on the.
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  Yeah, well, I know that we skipped some shit and we always
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  do to be for these, although I guess we can we've expanded it
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  to where we can do other streaming services now to.
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  You like start looking at like Pluto and freebie and stuff too,
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  just because you know, kind of the whole point of this is to
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  see maybe some of the lower budget movies that you can
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  access for free where you know the the ability to stream on the
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  paid services isn't necessarily a barrier.
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  Yeah. The whole point of this is to
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  just dig through trash and not necessarily trash what?
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  Yeah, it's just things that you would find like a random movie
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  in a one of those $1.00 bins at Walmart or at Dollar Tree or
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  whatever, Just a random movie kind.
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  Of like how I found you that copy of Motel Hell for your
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  birthday. Yeah, rummaging through the the
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  dollar off bin. Jesse found for my birthday a
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  copy of the Scream Factory DVD from Motel Hell, which is pretty
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  sweet. So we check your bins,
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  everybody. All right.
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  The movie was written by Fred Olin Ray.
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  Also directed by Fred Olin Ray. Music by Chuck Krinz or Krino
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  special effects. Joe Castro.
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  An animation by Brett Nixon. Thank you.
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  I was gonna ask if he knew who did the animation, but I could
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  have known that you would have gotten that information.
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  Anytime animation's involved, I like to get the animators, yeah,
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  cast for this bad boy. David Carradine as Gideon Fisk.
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  Who Travis totally did not remember was Bill.
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  Whoa, it makes sense when you hear his voice, 'cause then I'm
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  hearing his lines being delivered from Kilby and I'm
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  like, oh man, you were in a really good movie one time.
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  Well, 'cause I. Was looking at two movies.
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  He was in the first one also barely in the barely, but he was
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  in it. OK.
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  But I just we were watching the beginning and I was like, face
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  looks familiar, but the hat was covering so much of it.
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  But I was like something about the eyes in the mouth.
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  And then when it started going through the opening credits and
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  it said David Carradine, I was like, that's fucking why?
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  And you're like, huh? Yeah, No, the name does not end
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  the appearance and jumped to me. But that voice, that voice is
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  that's burning in my brain. Yeah.
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  Art Johnson as Hinchelo, Dick Miller as Bert.
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  I think this is the first. No, it's not.
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  We've talked about him in shopping mall.
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  Yes. So we've talked about him at
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  least one other time before. Also no, there was another movie
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  that he briefly appeared in that I feel like we talked about.
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  Really. OK, maybe we'll remember it.
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  Yeah, I'll have to look up. Monique Gabrielle as Megan,
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  Suzanne Aggers, Terry Madison as Roxanne, Barbara Dare as Jen,
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  Don Dow as Biff and Michelle Bauer as Missus Burt.
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  She doesn't even get a name. She's Missus Burt.
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  OK, all right. Time for our favorite game on
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  the show, Budget or Buck Ted. Oh, this is this was shot in
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  somebody's house. This was starring a lot of casts
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  that aren't necessarily super well known.
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  Plus noted character actor Dick. Dick Miller, yeah.
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  And for a movie called Evil Tunes, there was only one tune
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  so. Boy, don't get me started.
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  I'm going with Bug Ted. Yeah, this is bug Ted and I
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  actually just. Bug Ted.
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  This is Bug Theodore. Bug Theodore.
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  That's too regal for this. Yeah.
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  So the budget for this is $140,000.
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  OK. And I do know some info on this
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  right here, and they could maybe shed some light on certain
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  things. OK.
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  So I read that the guy, Fred Olenray, pitched this movie to
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  Roger Corman, saying I can do this movie for you for $250,000.
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  And Roger Corman said no. So this guy got the funds.
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  He's like, fine, I'll do it for 140,000.
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  And I think hiring Dick Miller, this is my personal theory, was
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  a spy hire or a way to prove like, hey, I can fucking do it
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  and I can get Dick Miller. Because this does feel like
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  Corman Fair. Yeah, it's, I feel like this is
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  a blend between Corman. So like New World pictures or
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  whatever one he had at that time and also Full Moon.
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  Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, it's it's, it's got that
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  cheapness to it. I feel like if it were a Corman
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  movie, probably would have been a little bit more tightly ran.
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  I think we would have definitely had Linnea Quigley because I
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  kept thinking, why isn't one of these women Linnea Quigley?
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  We did have, I mean, Michelle Bowers here, she's one of the
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  screen Queens that's in a lot of 1A Quigley movies.
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  Yeah, I just kept expecting Linnea herself.
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  Oh yeah. So the one of the reason why
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  some of these women aren't known is because they're most porn
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  actors. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So just I.
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  Mean it's it's a living. Yeah, it is.
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  They were hired because this movie required a lot of nudity
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  and obviously porn actors are going to be OK and comfortable
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  being at being naked on screen. So yeah, that makes a lot of
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  sense. Movie.
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  Required nudity. OK.
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  For the I mean for the script it kind of did I guess so if you
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  all. And Ray required a lot of
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  nudity. OK, that's fair.
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  I think they were really trying to target that home market with
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  that and with the at home market, if you promise boobs,
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  people will rent VHS tape. It doesn't matter if it's a shit
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  movie or not, they will be all over that stuff.
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  Well, OK, give us the numbers. How did that work out for them?
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  Hold on, I I tried to find out but there's no information on
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  any. Yeah, I mean, it didn't go to
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  theaters, so I don't have a box office or anything like that,
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  and no idea how much it's sold. I do have the IMDb though.
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  OK, The IMDb score is 4.1. Really.
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  Really. OK, yeah, all right.
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  So I have 3 movies from 1992 and the theme is animation of some
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  sorts. OK.
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  I'm curious. OK, so the first movie is a full
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  moon feature. It's Demonic Toys.
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  OK. Yeah, it's like it's similar to
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  Puppet Master but not. And then they even have a
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  crossover later. OK, so.
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  Yeah, Full Moon having a crossover of its own franchise.
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  I know and it's never been done before, never unheard of.
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  So the animation that some stop motion, I wasn't sure I'd
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  watched the trailer. A lot of it is them just kind of
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  picking up the toys and moving it around without, you know,
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  their hands out of frame. And some of it was some puppet
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  stuff. But I did see one guy actually
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  have stop animation, so I can confirm that there is animation
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  in that. OK.
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  Release for that was March 12th, 1992.
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  No budget, no gross. IMDb 5 out of 10 and that is the
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  highest score of all of these movies today.
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  Oh boy. Yeah.
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  So it's all below mid going the rest of the way here.
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  OK, OK. What's what's the next one?
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  What do you got? The next one Pet Sematary 2
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  because of reanimation. Oh my God.
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  Hey man, I thought that that was pretty clever.
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  Yes, goddamn it. So the really safe for that was
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  August 28th, 1990. Two $8 million budget.
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  Wow, $17 million gross. Yep.
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  IMDb 4.9. OK, I've never seen.
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  That one I haven't either, but maybe it's OK, I don't know.
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  Controversial yet brave opinion. I don't really love a lot of the
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  pet sematary options out there. No, I hated the remake and I
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  thought the original was OK. It was kind of standard Stephen
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  King made for TV. Yeah, it's not.
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  I don't think of it as iconic the way a lot of people do.
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  I think the most terrifying scene in that movie is whenever
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  Zelda shows up. I don't even feel like Zelda's
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  isn't that scary. I know a lot of people are like,
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  oh, Zelda's terrifying, but. It caught me off guard because I
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  wasn't even aware of the story and then whenever I see her I'm
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  like, good. Get out of here so and I know
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  we've talked about that boy before on the show, but I just.
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  Fucking what? What's his name?
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  His name? Gage.
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  Yeah. Oh, wow.
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  I actually had that. Yeah, man, that's how much I
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  hated them. Because I.
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  Yeah, well, because he was also in a new nightmare.
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  Oh the OK, I was kind of picturing him too.
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  Little bowl cut. The old fucking he's grown man
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  clothes, ass wearing kid. Yeah, he's a fuck.
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  Fuck that kid. He's no Andy, you know what I
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  mean? Like.
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  No he's not, man, that's so I feel ashamed of myself hating a
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  kid as much as I did there. Look, child acting is hard.
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  Finding child acting. Is hard.
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  No, I respect him. Fuck that kid.
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  All right. And the final movie, you know?
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  What that kid needed? What to be dubbed over by Bob's
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  voice actor? You know, it wouldn't hurt.
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  It would at least give it some spice.
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  Like give me another reason to hate you.
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  Like at the end when he was like not there.
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  Except it's probably not. There, I don't hate Bob as much
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  as most people do. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I came out
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  in support of Bob not too long ago on this very show.
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  I feel like we're Adam Scott's character in Parks and Rec where
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  he stands on the table saying I like Jerry.
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  I thought you were gonna say like when he doesn't get little
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  Sebastian. There's a little bit of.
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  That yeah, no, I guess what this is more me saying I I don't like
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  Pet Sematary as me not getting a little Sebastian.
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  I was saying that we we don't mind Bob is I like Jerry yeah.
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  So basically we're just we're Adam Scott and I'm OK with that.
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  I'm totally generally. Yeah, All right.
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  The final movie, it's kind of more in the line with it
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  Reanimation, and that's because it's Reanimator Academy and it's
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  not that Reanimator series. It's like a completely different
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  thing altogether. It's about a fraternity where a
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  guy has some kind of serum. It's like a rip off of it but
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  the the fact that he has a serum gets a gang leader wanting to
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  get involved with the. I don't fucking know, but that's
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  the synopsis that IMDb gave me. Wild.
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  I kind of like kind of curious. Yeah, so that released February
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  28th 1992. No budget twisted, no gross.
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  Although I the synopsis on Wikipedia said made with very
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  little money. OK OK yeah, IMDb was 4.6.
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  OK, so it sounds like our our movie today is the lowest of
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  them. Oh my God, it is.
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  Yeah, yeah. That happens sometimes.
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  Yeah, happens it'd be like that. OK, I've got 2 tag lines. 2.
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  OK, so the one on the poster. They had enough to spare in the
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  budget for an extra tagline. Well, they're like, look, I'm
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  either gonna have two tunes or two taglines.
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  The guy's. Like all right, two taglines.
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  Yeah, he's like, yeah, two taglines.
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  So the first one that's on the poster is this dude is rude.
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  Oh. My God, I kind of like the
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  audacity be like this. That's our tagline.
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  The next one, first they undress you, then they possess you.
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  That's why I think it might have been important to the plot, like
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  it seems like they were. Like the requirement is to be
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  undressed to be able to be possessed.
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  No because Biff is still has his ratty ass tank.
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  Talk tucked. Into his.
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  Never uses Biff's body. Lots of other people are killed
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  though, without their bodies being used.
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  We see Hinchwo was killed off screen and they use his body.
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  We don't see Bert's body being. Used well.
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  His weenie comes out though because it's implied that's what
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  Roxanne bites onto. Roxanne Monster.
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  We see his weenie come out. We don't see his weenie come
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  out, but that's the implication. Oh, well, yeah, I guess Ben
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  Yeah, yeah. But we don't see it after.
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  We don't see. Him.
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  It's funny, his name is Dick, but we're saying weenie.
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  Yeah. Wow, you're right.
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  We could just be saying Dick here and it could be like all
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  yeah. Yeah, all inclusive, we don't,
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  we don't see it, but that's that's the implication.
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  Oh yeah, that's the implication. The implication, yeah, OK, OK,
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  So no, I still, I think that's kind of like what you said, like
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  OK, we're gonna we're gonna mark this to the at home people.
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  I mean, that's. Undressed.
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  Dude, they fucking fooled me. Those breasts are all augmented,
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  which no judgement here. Wait, whose?
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  All of them all. Oh, they're all those are all
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  fake. They they are Alphaba defying
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  gravity. It's all good work.
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  And again, I'm never going to shame somebody for plastic
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  surgery because if I had the money, hell, I'd I'd have quite
• 16:56
  a bit of silicone in me too, probably.
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  But wow, yeah, no those. Really.
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  Yeah, I had no idea. Those are not God gifted tatas.
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  OK, wow, that OK, that's your fun facts for today.
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  Well, it's like a, you know, the episode of Seinfeld where
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  Elaine's like, yeah, no women can tell.
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  I guess it's true. Yeah.
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  Yeah, Yeah. The whole point is like, yeah.
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  Is it? Yeah.
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  OK. OK.
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  Yeah. I'm trying to think.
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  Well, he never got to see them, and I got to see them there, but
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  I couldn't tell. So I couldn't tell if he got to
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  see them, too. I don't fucking know.
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  Yeah. I'll trust your judgement on
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  this for sure. OK.
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  Fun facts, everybody. We're talking about breasts, so
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  we don't do that. This episode, though, So we
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  just, first of all, I tell everybody why I chose this
• 17:45
  movie. OK, Well Talia is warning me not
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  to share this information with anybody.
• 17:50
  Talia is incredibly offended because the one evil cartoon
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  that was drawn was a dog. Was a dog, wasn't it?
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  Hold on. I think I need to pause because
• 17:59
  she's losing her mind. OK, sorry, sorry.
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  We we left on Olympic basketball for the girls and Talia has a
• 18:08
  lot of strong opinions about basketball.
• 18:10
  It's for the gold. It's getting heated out there.
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  I I also want everybody to know that I tried to make a really
• 18:16
  stupid joke and Travis went up to me and stupidness.
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  Do we want to share this real quick?
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  I guess what do they call basketball in France?
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  My answer was LeBron. I was just gonna say le
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  basketball and I was not prepared for that.
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  So, OK, yeah, right now. The reason why I picked this
• 18:36
  movie for to be or not to be so because.
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  That's our sense. Of humor, Sure so the reason I
• 18:45
  wanted to watch this one is I was sold on the idea that this
• 18:51
  was supposed to be Who killed Roger rabbit the horror movie I.
• 18:56
  Felt very misled when you explained it to me that way and
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  then this is what we got. Yeah, so I had that in mind.
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  That's what I was hoping for. That's what I was expecting with
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  this movie. And yeah, we're going to get
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  into all of that here in a second.
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  But that was why I chose it. And, you know, I I'm a big fan
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  of animation in horror. I don't feel like we get enough
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  of it. No.
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  And if there are things out there, I want to be able to
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  discuss it. And I thought, man, I got a
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  chance here and, well, I'm waiting.
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  We are. We are.
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  Discussing it, that is true. However, little animation there
• 19:31
  is in this movie. So OK, let's let's talk about
• 19:35
  some good about this. I do like the feel of it there,
• 19:41
  you know, single location. I'm always a fan of that.
• 19:43
  Storms scare the shit out of me right now.
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  That's just a that's a phobia I've developed.
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  Yeah, as as a manifestation of all the other stressors in my
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  life right now. Yeah.
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  So that was nice. It's got like the very like low
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  budget 80s kind of feel that we tend to love.
• 20:00
  I've got very much sorority babes in the.
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  Slime ball Bola Rama vibes from. That yes, I kind of thought
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  about that a few times. Which I think is part of the
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  reason I kept going. Where is Lanaya?
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  Yeah. Yeah, she does feel like she
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  belongs in this. Yeah, and I, I think it's a fun
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  enough idea. I think it feels like the
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  actresses are all having fun with each other at the very
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  least. Yeah.
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  And I I think it's fun that they're not afraid to poke at
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  the tropes where, you know, they keep making jokes about like,
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  oh, well, we've got to go down 1 by 1 so we can get knocked off
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  that way. We don't know why the other
• 20:32
  person's missing. Yeah.
• 20:33
  Oh, for super for coeds alone in a basement during a storm over
• 20:38
  the weekend. Like, it's fun that they poke
• 20:40
  fun at that. And I think sometimes,
• 20:42
  especially when you're low budget and you know it's going
• 20:44
  to show, it's a little bit easier to lean into stuff like
• 20:47
  that and just be like, hey, look, we know what we're doing.
• 20:51
  Yeah, I agree. I feel like they definitely went
• 20:53
  into this knowing what it was gonna be.
• 20:55
  And they did execute that Phil very well.
• 20:59
  Also Dick Miller. Yeah, and he's part of that too.
• 21:02
  He breaks the 4th wall in this movie.
• 21:04
  He's watching a clip of him. Watching Dick Miller and saying
• 21:08
  why has this man never won an Academy Award?
• 21:11
  It's like beautiful. He's like, we actually watch,
• 21:15
  I'd say maybe 2 minutes of bucket of blood.
• 21:18
  Yeah. And it's just like we watch 2
• 21:19
  minutes of him watching 2 minutes of a bucket of blood.
• 21:22
  Can I just say how furious Scout was that it was the cat scene?
• 21:26
  Yeah, it was. I got a great picture.
• 21:28
  One bucket of blood was shown on the last drive in and yeah, like
• 21:32
  was reacting to the scene. I have a great picture of that.
• 21:35
  And her face when she saw that that was happening, I guess
• 21:38
  she's like the audacity of this fucking movie.
• 21:41
  Yeah, it's I appreciate that they at least went for moments
• 21:45
  like that here. Yeah, it was.
• 21:47
  Yeah. No, that, that was great.
• 21:48
  And I wonder, I almost wonder if it was a moment where they were
• 21:51
  like, you know what isn't bucket of blood?
• 21:54
  Roger Corman too. Is this another?
• 21:56
  Yeah, it is him, yeah. That's why I think it's like,
• 21:58
  look, man, I got your fucking movie in my movie.
• 22:00
  Yeah, fuck you. And I wonder if it was a moment
• 22:03
  where they're like, OK, well, we gotta find something that's a
• 22:05
  public domain or cheap enough for us to be able to show in
• 22:09
  this movie. And Dick Miller's like, I got a
• 22:11
  nugget. Yeah, Yeah.
• 22:12
  Let. Me call him in a favor.
• 22:15
  Yeah, I I don't even know if that would be public domain.
• 22:17
  It might be cheap by then, but yeah, like by 92 it's only like
• 22:21
  30 years old so I don't really know.
• 22:25
  I don't know how public domain works in all honesty.
• 22:28
  I think it really depends on the trademarks because nine of the
• 22:31
  living dead became public domain fast.
• 22:34
  Yeah, and that's what I'm saying.
• 22:35
  Like Roger Corman, he's, I mean, he's a cheap man.
• 22:37
  He's, he built an empire that he's, he's the early iteration
• 22:41
  of Blumhouse, you know what I mean?
• 22:44
  Just with more sleeves. He crawls to Blumhouse.
• 22:47
  Good. And I mean with this, with all
• 22:49
  the reference for what Roger Corman has done for horror,
• 22:51
  please don't take this to me. No, we love Roger Corman.
• 22:55
  Yeah, he's a fantastic person. He did amazing stuff for the
• 22:59
  whole genre and movies in general.
• 23:01
  Yes, but you know that that was kind of his thing, so.
• 23:05
  I think he probably, I think if he would have okayed this movie
• 23:11
  and it would have been under his production company, I think we
• 23:15
  could have had a better product. Honestly, I do.
• 23:18
  I wonder if maybe it was like the cartoon element threw him
• 23:20
  off. It might have been that.
• 23:22
  Which is also silly because fucking Little Shop of Horrors
• 23:26
  is a Corman product, you know what I mean?
• 23:29
  Like, oh, we can have a talking plant, a talking man eating
• 23:32
  plant, but we can't have a cartoon.
• 23:34
  Yeah, one's puppetry, which was very much a big part of cinema
• 23:39
  by that point in animation, I think like that.
• 23:43
  I mean, like Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
• 23:45
  I feel like that was revolutionary stuff right there.
• 23:48
  Like. And sorry, this is my brain
• 23:51
  going in a million ways at once right now, but we're kind of
• 23:54
  like crossing wires. Are you?
• 23:55
  Because Piranha is also a Roger Corman the original Piranha, but
• 23:59
  then the remake has. Richard Dreyfuss.
• 24:03
  No, not Richard Dreyfuss, The Judge.
• 24:07
  He's in it briefly. He makes a cameo.
• 24:10
  No, The Judge and Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
• 24:14
  Oh fuck, I don't. Oh oh.
• 24:16
  He makes a cameo in Piranha 3D, so there's like connections
• 24:19
  happening in my brain. Right God who?
• 24:21
  Is and I don't have a good yeah, I no, it's driving.
• 24:23
  Me. Is he in anything else?
• 24:24
  We yes, he's in a million things.
• 24:26
  Is he is he the guy that was in Nobody?
• 24:29
  Yes. Yeah.
• 24:30
  Oh, fuck. What is his name?
• 24:32
  The guy from Back to the Future? Yes.
• 24:34
  What the fuck is his name? Good.
• 24:36
  Yeah, no, this. Is it's Christopher something?
• 24:40
  Lloyd. Chris Rule.
• 24:42
  Chris Rule, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:43
  OK, Teamwork, teamwork. Yeah.
• 24:45
  This is a, this is a regular conversation in our household.
• 24:48
  By the way. Guys, this isn't, we're not just
• 24:49
  doing this for the podcast. This is how we go through life.
• 24:53
  In that fashion, yeah, that's pretty accurate.
• 24:56
  OK, OK. Yeah.
• 24:57
  So yeah, yeah, I. Think you're good?
• 25:01
  You're good, yeah. Yeah, that good was the tropes
• 25:06
  the the chemistry on set and Dick Miller.
• 25:09
  OK. Yeah, I mean.
• 25:11
  Gratuit is double Dick Miller. Yeah, and double Dick.
• 25:14
  Man, Spotify, please please please please make that a
• 25:19
  chapter title. Gratuitous double Dick.
• 25:22
  Gratuitous double Dick. OK, so my goods were to play off
• 25:27
  of yours. I liked how it was cheesy
• 25:30
  intentionally, You know, I thought that that was very
• 25:33
  fitting. And it definitely weaned into
• 25:36
  the low budget nature of this movie, which is nice.
• 25:38
  And I liked the idea that they had for this movie.
• 25:42
  I really think that it was like a great idea to do a movie where
• 25:48
  the cartoons come to life and kill them.
• 25:50
  Yeah, that's cool. And if given the right tools and
• 25:57
  given to the right people, it could have been a really well
• 26:00
  done movie. But we have that premise kind of
• 26:04
  squandered aired. It just makes me wish I watched
• 26:06
  Roger Rabbit instead. You know what I think would be
• 26:09
  fun? Like kind of the same vibes as
• 26:11
  like Krampus where we have like, well, mischievous toys and
• 26:16
  little mischievous gingerbread man.
• 26:18
  Especially because at the end with the whole like, oh, we're
• 26:20
  back to life and we just feel like we have bad hangovers,
• 26:23
  like. And.
• 26:24
  And when that scene was happening, I thought of Krampus.
• 26:26
  So yeah, now that you're saying, like, I could picture something
• 26:29
  like that, if this was remade today, I could see that kind of
• 26:32
  a vibe. Yeah.
• 26:33
  Oh man, I could act. I mean, it could work well too.
• 26:35
  I don't think that it. See, they kind of do show like
• 26:38
  that now, though. It's not a thing, I guess.
• 26:41
  Not that big of a deal anymore. Yeah.
• 26:43
  Animation mixed with real life. It's done with 3D models now.
• 26:47
  You you like we've missed the era of the DN 2D.
• 26:49
  I'm saying if it was remade now I would want to to be 2D.
• 26:54
  That's what I'm saying too. God, even fucking Rugrats and
• 26:58
  fairly Odd Parents these days are three.
• 27:00
  D. And like whatever trends come
• 27:05
  and go, and I'm sure it's probably cheaper in many ways to
• 27:09
  animated that way. Yeah, but man, not to sound like
• 27:13
  an old foggy, but. No it's true, I've lost with it.
• 27:18
  I feel the same way. I am super nostalgic for hand
• 27:22
  drawn to the animation. I know, what do people shit on
• 27:24
  the fact that even computer animation is like, you know,
• 27:28
  like people animate, but like that's Even so difficult cuz
• 27:31
  you're still having a hand draw. It's just not on pen and paper
• 27:35
  and on cells where you have to take pictures of it.
• 27:39
  But I do like that. And yeah, if we were to get
• 27:42
  something like this, it would need to be two D because yeah,
• 27:45
  absolutely. I need that.
• 27:46
  Yeah, like legit Who Framed Roger Rabbit style.
• 27:50
  Yeah, yeah. But who knows, maybe one day
• 27:53
  somebody will do it. Somebody nostalgic for that
• 27:55
  stuff too. OK, so that's sort of good.
• 27:58
  OK, so let's talk about bad. There's not.
• 28:05
  There's not much story nor plot. That's not always a bad thing,
• 28:09
  but sorry, can I playoff of yours?
• 28:12
  Yeah, yeah. It's fine if your movie is not
• 28:16
  boring in between and there's a lot of nothing that goes on in
• 28:20
  this movie. Yeah, that like, it's just
• 28:24
  there's a lot of like going upstairs and going.
• 28:27
  Down the stairs and going up. The sideways just it, which
• 28:33
  like, I mean, yeah, sometimes it can be fun.
• 28:34
  And like I said, the actors had a lot of fun with it.
• 28:37
  God, I didn't even talk about this.
• 28:38
  Am I good? But Madison's whole, like, her
• 28:41
  physical comedy of trying to open that fucking wine bottle
• 28:45
  was killing me. That's what made me look her up
• 28:47
  because I was like, I need to know more about this one.
• 28:49
  Yeah. So like, it just, I wish they
• 28:54
  had a little bit more to work off of because sometimes I
• 28:58
  couldn't tell if it was like, because these are adult film
• 29:01
  actresses, maybe subtle. She is not their best yeah
• 29:06
  trait. But then also part of me is
• 29:08
  like, is it that or is it that they don't have a lot to work
• 29:11
  with? I got the impression that they
• 29:14
  probably didn't have a lot to work with and they probably
• 29:17
  didn't have a lot of direction on set.
• 29:19
  They probably were just given their lines and they just read
• 29:23
  them. And if it didn't come out, if it
• 29:25
  came out super flat or not super well, I don't think anybody
• 29:28
  bothered to say Nah, like do that again.
• 29:31
  They they probably were like, OK, fine, whatever.
• 29:33
  It's nobody's going to be watching.
• 29:35
  This for the second Dave Carradine was one take for every
• 29:38
  single scene he was in. Like he they rent, they rented
• 29:42
  Dave Carradine by the hour. Like that's how.
• 29:44
  It felt, yeah, he's just, oh, man, what?
• 29:49
  That was even my bad. And one of them and I don't, I
• 29:53
  didn't know his name, but my bad is like, what is up with Bill?
• 29:59
  He's just there around the house creeping the entire time.
• 30:04
  And then when you kind of forget about him, he comes in the last
• 30:07
  second to save the day. And then he's like, by the way,
• 30:10
  here's all kinds of exposition. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:13
  Where was this? This is me at my most massive.
• 30:17
  Yeah, it's funny. Like nobody asked for this shit.
• 30:20
  He's like, by the way, I am a man that was in limbo and I just
• 30:25
  needed somebody to do this. And I was like, OK.
• 30:28
  Yeah, it like it almost feels. It almost feels like they took
• 30:33
  this movie and they made it better with Hocus Pocus because
• 30:37
  we had the human skin bound book and we had Thackery Binks who
• 30:41
  was like trying to protect it and keep the creatures from
• 30:44
  coming to life. And we had lots of talks about
• 30:48
  virginity, so. You know this focus?
• 30:51
  Yeah, a kids movie. 93 Disney was wild bro.
• 30:57
  Damn, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't remember that.
• 31:02
  Oh yeah, no, they see like my brother's a virgin.
• 31:05
  And he lit the black flame candle.
• 31:08
  Oh. Morgan is going to listen to
• 31:09
  this and she's going to be like, all right, just you and Travis
• 31:12
  come up here and we're going to have hocus pocus night.
• 31:14
  We watched Hocus Pocus 2 with her, it was OK.
• 31:18
  The first one's amazing. Yeah, I know.
• 31:19
  The first one's a lot better. Hocus pocus too.
• 31:21
  I was kind of a little bit let down.
• 31:24
  OK, OK. So do you have any other bats?
• 31:28
  That's like the gist of it. I don't want to shit on this
• 31:30
  maybe too much because it was, it was doing its thing.
• 31:33
  It just, you know, it felt like they needed another pass at the
• 31:38
  script, maybe have somebody else to come in, brainstorm some
• 31:41
  ideas with him, fill it out a little bit if they wanted to
• 31:43
  make a feature length film. And then maybe also rent the
• 31:48
  house for more than a literal weekend and Dave Carradine for
• 31:51
  more than a literal hour and a half.
• 31:52
  Yeah. Yeah, I.
• 31:54
  Think you're right? Yeah.
• 31:55
  Yeah, the bads I had, I had acting, being pretty weak all
• 32:00
  around, which, you know, like it is what it is.
• 32:04
  They're not I most of these people weren't traditional.
• 32:07
  Actors in that Dick Miller gave his whole ad to his to his
• 32:11
  performance. See that?
• 32:13
  I fucking admire he. Put us back into it.
• 32:16
  Look man, so I feel like this. Is we're biased towards Dick
• 32:20
  Miller, but. This is a time where he was
• 32:22
  probably just doing shit. You know, he's not getting Call
• 32:26
  Us or big movies anymore or anything like that.
• 32:29
  And I often see people for movies these days get horror
• 32:36
  legends and get them in their movie.
• 32:38
  And I could be mean here, but I feel like 90% of the time I can
• 32:44
  just see them phoning it in because they feel like they
• 32:46
  don't they're too good for it. That's the impression I get.
• 32:50
  When you phone it in, when you don't give it, you're off, no
• 32:52
  matter what. The project like that just gives
• 32:55
  me that impression. I got curious.
• 32:57
  He was working all the way up until his death.
• 32:59
  I'm sure he was 90 years old. He's a working actor.
• 33:01
  Yeah, he and he's a character actor, so this.
• 33:03
  Is his thing. That's his thing.
• 33:06
  Ripped to both him and Roger Corman, cuz yeah, like yeah,
• 33:09
  let's Norma Strovia. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:12
  There we go. Yeah, they they're, they're
• 33:15
  legends at their craft, Yeah. It it just, yeah, this this
• 33:20
  movie just needed a little more time, a little more budget.
• 33:24
  But he fucking killed it, and even Dave Carradine didn't kill
• 33:27
  it. Yeah, I was like, excited to see
• 33:30
  him as like this morally ambiguous character.
• 33:32
  And that's what I'm saying. Like, I know you're a good
• 33:35
  actor, man. I saw you and killed Bill.
• 33:36
  You killed that? Yeah.
• 33:38
  You killed Bill. Somebody did, yeah.
• 33:42
  I mean, did he kill himself? I don't.
• 33:44
  No, she did the the. Oh yeah, boom boom.
• 33:47
  Boom, yeah. Yeah, and now I'm just thinking
• 33:49
  about Hot Rod where it's like the shoot, you're attack, man.
• 33:54
  We're always. Hot Rod for the first time ever
• 33:56
  this week. Yeah, it was a fantastic movie.
• 33:58
  Yeah, let's we need to we. Need to pick this up.
• 34:00
  OK, so that and the biggest one was not enough cartoons, which
• 34:04
  we've already talked funny about that.
• 34:06
  Don't call it, just change the name.
• 34:08
  Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 34:09
  Don't call it evil tunes and it set me up for multiple cartoons
• 34:13
  and. And market it entirely off of
• 34:15
  that and be such a big let down with that.
• 34:18
  It just that frustrates me. Didn't I?
• 34:19
  I kinda wanna see the trailer for this cuz I wanna see how
• 34:22
  misleading it is. I kinda wanna see it too.
• 34:24
  It probably is. Like, here's some maybe boobs
• 34:27
  and here's a cartoon, right? There.
• 34:28
  Here's a cartoon. Here's a cartoon guy licking his
• 34:31
  lips at the boobies. Yeah.
• 34:33
  He's going, yeah. Yeah, he does.
• 34:35
  We do get a Wooga. Yeah, we do.
• 34:37
  You guys, Yeah, We also get a what is the jackhammer sound
• 34:42
  for? The implication is for like a
• 34:44
  really heavy duty electric dildo for Mrs. Burt.
• 34:47
  It's kind of fun. Yeah.
• 34:49
  So like, that was cartoony in a way.
• 34:50
  I. Forgot about that.
• 34:54
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's OK. Ugly.
• 34:58
  Ugly. I guess I'm going to say the
• 35:01
  ooga and Satan likes boobs. A bit of it because it Yeah,
• 35:08
  first of all, it's gross, but also it like, like moralizes
• 35:12
  nudity and sex. And I wrote we had too much of
• 35:15
  that already. Yeah, Raby.
• 35:16
  Monster. Yeah, I mean, he's a baby
• 35:18
  monster, basically. It's very weird.
• 35:20
  I didn't want that from this man.
• 35:22
  Like, give me just make him a killer.
• 35:24
  Don't make him have to do stupid, weird sexual stuff.
• 35:27
  Yeah. Let's incorporate more cartoon
• 35:29
  logic to it. Yeah, they had him hide behind
• 35:32
  an armchair. Have him hide behind like the
• 35:35
  fireplace poker. He's a cartoon.
• 35:37
  He can get real tiny. Drop, drop an anvil on somebody,
• 35:41
  do some shit like that. Let's have some fun, yeah?
• 35:44
  Don't make it. Don't go dark with a like that.
• 35:46
  God damn dude, this is a cartoon, OK?
• 35:50
  Absurd. Dave Carradine's pun based
• 35:56
  monologue at the end where he comes in to defeat the cartoon.
• 36:00
  He's like, you're just a doodle, it's time to erase you.
• 36:04
  So do you. Do you want to do another take
• 36:07
  of that? Nope.
• 36:10
  Yeah, that man. I was gonna say gratuitous
• 36:15
  double Dick Miller as my absurd, but honestly, no, that's just
• 36:18
  good. It is.
• 36:19
  Really good. Yeah, it leans into the absurd.
• 36:23
  And yeah, no, definitely Dave Carradine there at the end.
• 36:26
  OK, I have two written down. OK, first one is the book that
• 36:31
  we get. First of all, this isn't my
• 36:33
  absurd, but I want to mention it's basically the Necronomicon.
• 36:37
  It looks exactly like it it. The Necronomicon.
• 36:41
  Yeah, I this book like back Sass and Dave Carradine as he's
• 36:48
  fucking sorry, trigger warning, fucking killing himself.
• 36:52
  And yeah, that's intense. It's I, you know, you kind of
• 36:57
  forget that the book is an actual living character in this
• 36:59
  movie. Until it cries Milky white tears
• 37:04
  when it's thrown into the fire. I mean, what else do you expect
• 37:07
  from books? I guess it's like bleeding pages
• 37:11
  from its eyes. Right there.
• 37:13
  That's deep right there. OK, OK, so the the absurd of it
• 37:17
  though. The book is full of all these
• 37:21
  ancient illustrations. This is shit that we would be
• 37:23
  seeing if we watched Robert Eggers make a movie.
• 37:27
  Oh my God. It's like true to the
• 37:29
  illustration style of the time, but randomly in the middle of
• 37:33
  the book we get this one 90s cartoon, an ass looking
• 37:36
  motherfucker, and then that's the one you're like, oh, that's
• 37:39
  the one that's coming to life. It looks like a 90s cartoon.
• 37:43
  Also can we talk about like Meg saying I don't really know much
• 37:47
  Latin and then she reads it perfectly?
• 37:49
  She reads it perfectly until she gets to a part of this and she's
• 37:52
  like, oh, I don't know that. Yeah, how the dagger works.
• 37:54
  The dagger will work if I can't read.
• 37:57
  This. You can't read this part?
• 37:58
  Yeah, you read everything perfectly fine before.
• 38:00
  I think you can maybe decipher some of that.
• 38:03
  The other thing is Biff thinks blood is sticky stuff.
• 38:07
  Sticky lotion. Was that what that?
• 38:09
  Yeah, you said lotion. He he walks in on Roxanne and
• 38:15
  she's covered in blood and he's like, what's all this sticky
• 38:18
  stuff on you? Like, motherfucker, that has
• 38:20
  blood. It was blood.
• 38:22
  It was so clearly boy, maybe even Machine or Megan knew right
• 38:26
  from the gig. Like what is all that blood
• 38:27
  doing on you? Maybe.
• 38:28
  The actor didn't know that she was going to be covered in fake
• 38:31
  blood. And he's like, what's this
• 38:32
  sticky stuff? And dude, he was just like,
• 38:35
  yeah, we're just going to keep this rolling.
• 38:36
  You know what? Maybe.
• 38:37
  And if that's the case, then that actor, the one that played
• 38:41
  Roxanne Madison, played it off super well.
• 38:46
  OK, let's rate this. Oh man, I 4.
• 38:57
  That's exactly where I'm at for. Yeah, I like God.
• 39:01
  I want to like it. I want to give it its flowers
• 39:04
  where they're owed, but there's just a lot that's promised and
• 39:10
  we're let down with. You want to know what I think?
• 39:12
  I think that this movie, if we were to revisit it sometime with
• 39:17
  the correct expectations, we might like it better.
• 39:20
  I feel like we, I feel like, you know what, we'll talk about this
• 39:23
  when we get to the end where we talk about to be or not to be.
• 39:25
  Yeah. I just like right now I'm just
• 39:28
  because we're also just like fresh off of watching it and I
• 39:31
  have a lot of questions and thoughts and maybe, you know, as
• 39:33
  we talk about it, we'll get better.
• 39:36
  Yeah, OK. So let's start it.
• 39:39
  OK, all right, so we open up with what I I I'm a sucker for
• 39:45
  funny like openings and the credits very 4th wall breaking
• 39:49
  Travis. I didn't read what he wrote down
• 39:51
  so. Yeah, it opens with this wall of
• 39:53
  text. The story you are about to see
• 39:56
  is true. Nothing has been changed.
• 39:58
  These are the actual people who live this great adventure, and
• 40:01
  this is exactly the way it really happened.
• 40:04
  I truly believe this. Signed Fred Olin Ray.
• 40:09
  Like, and I was like, OK, cool, I get this guy's sense of humor.
• 40:12
  I'm here for it. I was ready for this.
• 40:14
  It's, it's a great way to set this up here.
• 40:17
  It's it's fun. It's already not taken itself
• 40:19
  seriously. And then we cut to a mansion
• 40:21
  during a storm which the the lightning bolts are borrowed
• 40:26
  from Chopping Mall. This time I think Tick Miller
• 40:28
  just like smuggled him on to set.
• 40:30
  Yeah, he actually had. Them.
• 40:31
  Yeah, and we've got a cloaked man with a back Sassen book.
• 40:37
  This book. This is how I feel.
• 40:39
  A lot of the readers out there, you'll understand, you've got
• 40:43
  your your books and then you've got your to read books and
• 40:47
  they're always looking at you with their hands on their hips
• 40:50
  whenever you buy another book. That's what this book is.
• 40:53
  I imagine the embodiment. Of those books, do they really
• 40:56
  put their hands on there? They do.
• 40:58
  Do they really? Yes.
• 40:59
  Are you being serious? Are you fucking with me?
• 41:01
  I feel like you're fucking. I've never fucked with you,
• 41:03
  ever. I've been serious in everything
• 41:06
  I've ever said. Like, I don't know if you're
• 41:07
  being for real, but I'm choosing to believe this honestly.
• 41:10
  Go out and look at some of the books on our bookshelf right now
• 41:13
  and see which ones are doing this.
• 41:15
  I thought you were talking about your Kindle.
• 41:18
  Well, no, my Kindle too, but that's a little bit different
• 41:20
  because don't tell Amazon, but we share a Kindle account with
• 41:25
  my family. I.
• 41:27
  Like that. OK, Yeah.
• 41:28
  So the guy approaches the building with the book, and he
• 41:32
  finds a nuisance inside the building.
• 41:36
  And he's like, all right, I have to do this.
• 41:38
  No here's the thing, I imagine he built it like a while ago and
• 41:42
  then they just had like a dry spell and he was waiting for a
• 41:46
  storm like this so it would be the proper mood.
• 41:49
  Yeah, I don't. It's so strange to me.
• 41:52
  There's no reason for this house specifically, but we're we're
• 41:57
  led to believe it's like a big deal later on.
• 42:00
  Like, oh, there's been all kinds of weird shit, the atmosphere,
• 42:02
  but is it because of this? Before Gideon lived like that's.
• 42:05
  All it is, it might be, I don't even know.
• 42:09
  I don't think he had a fridge. I don't think he had modern
• 42:12
  appliances. This.
• 42:13
  Look at this motherfucker and tell me that he actually lived
• 42:16
  like a normal human being in the.
• 42:17
  House And then like as the centuries went on, people moved
• 42:21
  modern appliances and that is a thing that happens, you know.
• 42:24
  Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, okay.
• 42:27
  You got it, you good champ. Yeah, okay, yeah.
• 42:30
  So he walks inside there and there's a noose and he has the
• 42:35
  book. He's like, okay, I'm gonna do
• 42:36
  this. And then he hangs himself.
• 42:38
  Book like fucking dares. I'm basically too.
• 42:41
  It's kind of. Funny.
• 42:42
  All right, Yeah, I'll come back. He he promises it.
• 42:45
  And then the book vanishes. Yeah.
• 42:47
  All right. So then we cut to modern times,
• 42:49
  which we know because the lighting changed.
• 42:53
  Yeah. Sunny day we see the house as
• 42:56
  super ran down and there's like a sign on the for sale sign
• 42:59
  saying call Satan. Yeah, Satan's my realtor, just
• 43:02
  call him. Yeah, just.
• 43:03
  Check in on. You don't have to hail him.
• 43:05
  He's not attacked. Yeah, he's got a phone.
• 43:07
  These days, it's the 90s. Sometimes he just wants to.
• 43:10
  You could. Beep him.
• 43:10
  You could also beep Satan if you.
• 43:12
  Wanted to do yeah. Beeping's a big thing at that
• 43:14
  time, yeah. I believe it was Kim Possible,
• 43:17
  he said. Call me beep me if you want to
• 43:19
  retrain. Beep beep beep beep Oh God we're
• 43:24
  so fucking wack today. All right, we have another
• 43:28
  episode to record. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:31
  Alright, so we see Dick Miller. I'm just going to call him Dick
• 43:35
  Miller. His name is Burp, but he's a
• 43:36
  Dick Miller. He's doing that.
• 43:37
  And the problem also is when I think of Bird, I think of Return
• 43:39
  of the Living Dead. And yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
• 43:43
  He could have played that. Career.
• 43:43
  Yeah. And I was gonna say I could
• 43:45
  totally picture Dick Miller in Return of the Living Dead.
• 43:47
  So. So they arrive in their van.
• 43:50
  It's a cleaning crew. We have Dick Miller and four
• 43:53
  ladies that are gonna be cleaning the house over the
• 43:56
  weekend. Except Dick Miller's not gonna
• 43:57
  be doing a cleaning. This honestly like the first few
• 44:01
  minutes of this movie are still selling me.
• 44:03
  It's very much like the beginning of Jesus Camp or
• 44:06
  whatever it was. Buddy Buddy Bible Camp.
• 44:08
  Bloody, bloody Bible camp. Yeah.
• 44:10
  Because like, they're like, Roxanne comes out, she goes, I
• 44:14
  didn't know I was being paid to be a contortionist.
• 44:16
  And then somebody says, what's a contortionist?
• 44:17
  And they're like, oh, it's a political party, and they're not
• 44:20
  quite like, Republicans. And like, they're going back and
• 44:23
  forth. They're playing their own game
• 44:24
  of balderdash. And it's amazing.
• 44:26
  Like, this is really funny. And I feel like Fred ran out of
• 44:29
  steam after writing this scene and he phoned it in for the rest
• 44:34
  of the. That line does come back.
• 44:35
  Later. It does come back later, but I
• 44:37
  really think that's just Dick Miller improving.
• 44:40
  When he's on the phone, he's like, whatever, I'm a
• 44:42
  contortionist. Yeah, Yeah.
• 44:43
  No, she's like a member of a political party.
• 44:45
  Yeah. Like, yeah, it's pretty funny.
• 44:48
  Yeah. So they are going to be dropped
• 44:51
  off to clean up the place over the weekend.
• 44:54
  Dick Miller is going to be paying them 100 bucks to do it.
• 44:57
  I like how they keep saying, is $100 really worth all this?
• 45:01
  And then they all pause for a second.
• 45:03
  They're like. Yeah, because they're broke
• 45:04
  college students. Yeah, I get it.
• 45:07
  I get it too. I would do.
• 45:09
  Yeah, we're not going to worry about this, this gross violation
• 45:11
  of Labor laws where you're just dropping us off in this house
• 45:14
  for a weekend. Yeah, so he mentions that.
• 45:19
  The phone isn't hooked up. Yeah, the electricity is on, but
• 45:22
  the phone's not on until the new owners move in on Monday, so if
• 45:27
  they have an emergency they can go down the street to Mr.
• 45:29
  Hinchlow's house. Yes, yeah, he's right there.
• 45:33
  Yeah. So the house has a long history
• 45:36
  of mayhem and madness. The girls are there well now,
• 45:39
  and they're talking. About you are be like put that
• 45:41
  so much more beautifully than the scripted.
• 45:43
  That's exactly what they say. No, because Terry, like they're
• 45:46
  coming in and Terry, Meg is saying how beautiful the house
• 45:49
  is and Terry's like, well, maybe you can take over the mortgage
• 45:51
  payments whenever the new owners go disappearing.
• 45:55
  No, she says this. That's why I wrote this down and
• 45:57
  does say it has a long history of mayhem and madness.
• 46:02
  OK. Well, yeah, never mind.
• 46:03
  Credit to Fred then. Fred it, if you will.
• 46:05
  Fred it Yeah. Fred it where Fred it is due.
• 46:09
  Hey I know we don't do tag lines or the Toby movies but Fred it
• 46:15
  where Fred it is due. There's not much Fred it to be
• 46:18
  given here. But we're going to give it where
• 46:20
  it's due. OK, where it's due, we'll give
• 46:22
  it. We'll give it some.
• 46:23
  Fred. So the history of the house,
• 46:26
  there was a family, the Mortimer family that lived there.
• 46:29
  They vanished one month after moving in.
• 46:32
  So there's not a lot of good things happen there, Meg.
• 46:38
  Goes outside to grab the duffel bags.
• 46:40
  Apparently all of their shit is just shoved into these two giant
• 46:43
  duffel bags that don't look very well filled at all.
• 46:45
  Yeah, listen, I've packed a duffel bag.
• 46:48
  I know what this kind of shit looks like.
• 46:49
  Especially for these women that have three changes of clothing
• 46:52
  for a single evening and it's their first evening out of an
• 46:55
  entire weekend to. Be fair, we only see one night,
• 46:58
  we don't know what's happening the rest of the time.
• 47:01
  I'm just saying I don't believe that they had four sleeping bags
• 47:05
  and multiple changes of clothing each in these two duffel bags.
• 47:09
  They buy they had a lot of alcohol.
• 47:13
  Did you not see them on low with that full case of Budweiser I
• 47:16
  saw? That I'm just saying that was
• 47:19
  like cleaning supplies and food and then the duffel bags was
• 47:23
  meant to be like their. Personal effects, Sure.
• 47:26
  Yeah. And she goes out there to get
• 47:28
  them. And Mr. Hinchlow, Yeah, just
• 47:31
  appears as like, hey, I'm Mr. Hinchlow, he's a Oh God.
• 47:36
  Hey, this movie also gave me Slumber Party Massacre.
• 47:41
  Yeah, and he's the oh. God, what is his name?
• 47:43
  He's. The slug guy the.
• 47:45
  Slug guy I I can't remember his name.
• 47:50
  Maui. I know.
• 47:51
  Exactly. I know who you're talking about.
• 47:54
  I can't give you the name at this second.
• 47:56
  Damn it. Again with the Roger Corman
• 47:58
  here, though. Yeah, I I couldn't tell you what
• 48:02
  his name was. I'm sorry.
• 48:04
  That. Sounds like a word, but it's
• 48:07
  like slightly emphasized in a different syllable.
• 48:09
  Yeah, we're getting lost in the weeds.
• 48:11
  Yeah, we've, well, we've been lost in the.
• 48:13
  Weeds I know we need to find our way out of here so he.
• 48:16
  Yeah, he comes in and introduces himself to everybody.
• 48:18
  And then he says, just want to see your faces in case I have to
• 48:21
  identify your bodies later without a hint of irony.
• 48:24
  And they're like, OK, well, bye. Yeah, that was kind of weird,
• 48:27
  which I would kind of be the same way, like, get the fuck out
• 48:29
  of here, man. So they're like, OK, we need to
• 48:32
  start somewhere. Let's start in the basement
• 48:34
  first because it gets really creepy at night and I don't want
• 48:37
  to be down there when it's dark. So their idea to clean the is
• 48:40
  like, well, it's all cement and dirt, so we can't mop it.
• 48:45
  Let's just rearrange some boxes. And by rearranging boxes, they
• 48:48
  mean Chuck them just. Throwing them around, yeah, they
• 48:51
  they have no structure or organization going on down.
• 48:54
  There, Yeah. And as they do it, they uncover
• 48:57
  this chest, and the chest has a little placard on it says, dear
• 49:01
  God, whatever you do, please do not open.
• 49:02
  This Yeah, in God's name, please don't open this trunk.
• 49:05
  And it's glowing and flashing at them like, oh, wonder what's
• 49:08
  inside. Different language too, like
• 49:10
  it's a New York City metro subway station like.
• 49:13
  It's it's really kind of fun. I mean, that is kind of some of
• 49:16
  the humor I think that they're trying to inject here and.
• 49:18
  Like I said, moments like this, this movie glows.
• 49:21
  I just wish they I wish I had the stamina to keep up.
• 49:24
  With yeah, so the girls open it up anyway.
• 49:27
  Of course they do. And Terry is like, hey, this
• 49:30
  stuff looks vintage and valuable.
• 49:32
  I mean, it may be good for our protection.
• 49:34
  And the girls are like, well, as long as you split the cost with
• 49:37
  us, we'll also agree that it's good for our protection.
• 49:40
  So the things that are in there are a skull and a dagger.
• 49:44
  And a shroud. And a shroud, yeah.
• 49:46
  So that's apparently may be worth a lot.
• 49:50
  Well, she just takes the shroud and the dagger.
• 49:52
  She doesn't take that. She's not a last poor Yorick.
• 49:54
  Like she's not doing that. Shakespeare.
• 49:58
  Yeah. Are you fitting for 2B or not?
• 49:59
  To be? Exactly.
• 50:00
  Yeah. So yeah, they they take that
• 50:03
  just in case the dagger, just in case there could be any danger,
• 50:06
  because Mr. Hinchelo is like, yeah, you're probably going to
• 50:10
  die. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:12
  So they go upstairs and it's storming and they're eating
• 50:18
  their ham and cheese sandwiches and drinking beer and reading
• 50:23
  romance novels. Spicy romance novels.
• 50:26
  And while that's happening, we get a shot outside, too.
• 50:31
  Bill, I can't remember, is David Carradine.
• 50:34
  Gideon Fisk, this is. Gideon Fisk.
• 50:36
  Yeah. And so one of the funny things
• 50:38
  about this movie is whenever they do a thing where, you know,
• 50:41
  how movies like, if something appears so like, they obviously
• 50:46
  pause or they, like, cut the movie just a little bit, that
• 50:49
  way, they have it. He was standing there holding
• 50:52
  nothing after he teleports in and then the book teleports in
• 50:55
  his hand. But he clearly moved because he
• 50:58
  moves just like an inch over just a little bit on screen.
• 51:01
  So it was funny that they they didn't even keep him in.
• 51:04
  Place. Yeah, they just edit it a little
• 51:06
  better. So they are down there just kind
• 51:11
  of hanging out. Roxanne says, Do you want to see
• 51:13
  how I got captain out of the football team?
• 51:15
  Biff something. Biff with.
• 51:19
  Yeah, Biff with Biff. With the guy from all those
• 51:22
  things. Yeah, no.
• 51:23
  And yeah, the one that you argued with me for an hour that
• 51:28
  his name could not be Biff with. Could be Biff with when he was
• 51:31
  young. And you were OK woo distracted.
• 51:37
  Yeah, she strips. Yeah, she strips them.
• 51:40
  Yeah. And Meg, like, I don't know,
• 51:43
  maybe there's like a little like, queer exploration going on
• 51:46
  for her. She's fascinated.
• 51:48
  And then Roxanne pulls her out there to dance with her.
• 51:50
  And when she. I appreciate that she's got a
• 51:52
  realistic bra on for the size of her tatas.
• 51:55
  Yeah, it. It was nice seeing that
• 51:58
  represented. Yeah.
• 52:00
  But she gets really embarrassed and she runs upstairs and hides.
• 52:05
  So the girls hear a knock at the door or the doorbell rings.
• 52:09
  It's a doorbell. Yeah, Yeah.
• 52:10
  And then go check. Yeah, it's Bill.
• 52:12
  It's Gideon, whatever with the delivery.
• 52:14
  And they're like, well, we're not the owners.
• 52:15
  They'll be here on Monday. And he's like, delivery and then
• 52:19
  just walks away. And so they look at it, it says
• 52:23
  open immediately. And they're like, we should open
• 52:25
  it. And Terry is like, no, we're not
• 52:27
  the owners. This isn't meant for us.
• 52:28
  And they're like, what if it's something perishable?
• 52:30
  And she goes, good point. If it's not perishable, we'll
• 52:32
  wrap it up right away. Liar.
• 52:35
  Yeah, so they open it up and it's the book from before.
• 52:40
  It's not talking to them though. It's pages are in another
• 52:43
  language and none of them knows how to read it.
• 52:46
  And they're like, Meg's real smart.
• 52:47
  I bet she can read it. And meanwhile, Meg is upstairs
• 52:50
  having like an internal crisis, like self esteem issues.
• 52:54
  She's looking at herself in the mirror and Roxanne comes up and
• 52:58
  she's like, hey, you need to come read this book for us.
• 53:01
  Are you feeling better? I do appreciate that Roxanne is
• 53:04
  like feeling a little self-conscious, a little
• 53:06
  embarrassed. Yeah, Kind of a moment.
• 53:09
  Yeah. So they go downstairs and Meg,
• 53:11
  it's like, oh, this looks like ancient Latin.
• 53:13
  I'm not sure I can read it. And then she reads it.
• 53:15
  Falsely. Yeah.
• 53:16
  I'm not sure I can read this. Here we go.
• 53:19
  And she just starts reading and it's like.
• 53:21
  Something kind of about demons and like your soul and whatever.
• 53:25
  And so she reads through it, blah blah blah.
• 53:27
  This footnote says to never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
• 53:31
  ever read the above incantation out loud.
• 53:34
  Or God, your soul. And she does.
• 53:39
  Yeah, well, she'd already read it.
• 53:40
  Yeah, it's the problem. So they're like, OK, cool, we're
• 53:45
  gonna go to bed. And Roxanne's like, oh, well,
• 53:47
  Beth's coming around midnight. And they're like, hey, Bert said
• 53:50
  no hanky panky. And she's like, yeah, it'll be
• 53:52
  like an hour, Max. And they're like 5 minutes Max.
• 53:56
  Yeah, so so they go upstairs, she stays downstairs trying to
• 54:00
  get some wine and. Listen, they were all downstairs
• 54:03
  in like overly large shirts that looked perfectly comfortable for
• 54:07
  sleeping in, and then they change into silk nighties.
• 54:10
  Yeah, that is kind of strange, I think.
• 54:12
  Yeah. Although I love Jans overly
• 54:16
  dramatic floor length nighty. That was fun.
• 54:20
  Yeah. So Roxanne is downstairs and
• 54:23
  she's trying to open up the wine and it's very, very cheap wine.
• 54:27
  It is twist top wine. And it's very clear that she is
• 54:30
  she is putting no her back into this.
• 54:33
  No, the actress is putting all of her back into this.
• 54:36
  Oh, yeah. Like she is struggling.
• 54:38
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing.
• 54:40
  Her physical acting here is phenomenal.
• 54:45
  We see it in the other room as she's trying to open this.
• 54:48
  The monster drawing that's on the page kind of glows, and then
• 54:51
  it disappears from the book. And then it appears in real life
• 54:55
  as a drawing. And when she comes out into the
• 54:58
  living room, it hides behind a chair, and she changes into yet
• 55:02
  another set of lingerie. So she's ready for Biff.
• 55:04
  And then she hears the cartoon making sounds, thinks it's Biff,
• 55:08
  doesn't see anything. So she sits down.
• 55:10
  And then the cartoon, like, attacks her.
• 55:12
  And you can tell that the actress is like trying to
• 55:14
  imagine like what the cartoons it'll look like.
• 55:16
  Yeah, yeah, she even rips up in her own shirt, too.
• 55:19
  It's like, here we go. Yeah.
• 55:21
  And yeah, the thing just pounces on her and it's kind of weirdly
• 55:25
  sexual. Yeah, and to that end, the
• 55:28
  others upstairs hear the screaming and they assume that
• 55:31
  it's just really loud sex happening.
• 55:33
  And Meg is like, I don't think so.
• 55:36
  And so she goes downstairs to check and the monster, we watch
• 55:39
  it transform into Roxanne. And Roxanne is like, oh, I cut
• 55:44
  myself and got blood on my nightgown.
• 55:46
  So just go back upstairs. It's all good.
• 55:48
  This is not here yet. Just go back upstairs.
• 55:51
  And when she when Meg tells Terry and Jan that they're a
• 55:53
  little bit surprised that this is not there and they're a
• 55:55
  little bit surprised to hear she's covered in blood, but
• 55:57
  they're like. Let's let's go back to our.
• 55:59
  Business, yeah. Like they they could not be
• 56:01
  bothered. So Dick Miller gets a call.
• 56:06
  No Roxanne monster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:09
  Yeah, is happy to be alive again.
• 56:11
  And we know this because it's like literally said out loud.
• 56:14
  And then Biff arrives and thinks that the blood is a lotion.
• 56:18
  Yeah. What's?
• 56:19
  The sticky stuff. Yeah, and then they start making
• 56:22
  out and we see her get like her little fangy teeth and then she
• 56:27
  bites him so. Don't these teeth look exactly
• 56:30
  like the teeth and demons? And there's another movie That
• 56:35
  Night of the Demons. Yeah, I was thinking of Night of
• 56:37
  the Demons and I was also thinking of Trick or Treat where
• 56:39
  they like do the werewolf transformation a little bit,
• 56:42
  mostly because they're like making out mid.
• 56:45
  I feel like. Transformation in the middle of
• 56:46
  that. I think it looks better in Trick
• 56:47
  or Treat, but yeah, this right here.
• 56:50
  It looks like the exact same prosthetics that they used and
• 56:52
  those. Other Yeah, yeah, no,
• 56:53
  definitely. Yeah.
• 56:55
  His screens wake the others up again and they still decide that
• 56:59
  they're not gonna go make it their business.
• 57:00
  And Meg's like, but I have to go to the bathroom.
• 57:02
  I promise I'm doing. Yeah, and they, they, I like the
• 57:06
  dialogue that they had here. Oh, you're playing a game of
• 57:09
  what was it like? It's.
• 57:11
  Me. Yeah.
• 57:11
  No, like you're, it's, you've got you're it written.
• 57:14
  You're it. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:16
  She's like, well, like you have to go there by yourself and not
• 57:19
  be with us. It's not our time to go yet.
• 57:20
  Yeah. It's like they're like straight
• 57:22
  up calling out the movie. Yeah, and this is where we've
• 57:24
  had to Dick Miller watching Bucket of Blood and praising the
• 57:27
  performance of the young lead. Yeah, it's so great.
• 57:30
  It's like it, it lays on its so long that I just kind of
• 57:35
  appreciate that they did that and I love that they broke the
• 57:39
  4th wall with them being like why didn't this guy win an
• 57:41
  Academy like it was or Academy Award or whatever.
• 57:45
  Why didn't he win a university? Yeah.
• 57:48
  It was funny, so and he gets a call and he doesn't know when to
• 57:52
  answer it because he's so engrossed by his own
• 57:54
  performance. And it's sister Henschlow who's
• 57:56
  saying that he's hearing screams and she he's like, Oh well,
• 57:59
  they're young kids. They probably avoided their
• 58:01
  boyfriends over even though they weren't supposed to.
• 58:04
  Screams of terror, not passion. Okay, okay.
• 58:08
  I guess I'll go over there. Yeah, once a contortions.
• 58:11
  Yes. Some kind of political part,
• 58:14
  yeah. And then on his way out, and
• 58:16
  this is Bert. It's Friday night and he's like
• 58:20
  Friday night happens every week and don't take that jackhammer
• 58:23
  too hard and. It's so weird.
• 58:25
  Yeah, she's trying to seduce him.
• 58:27
  And then he is like, I gotta go. And then she goes back to the
• 58:31
  room and closes the door. You hear fucking jackhammers
• 58:34
  going on in their power tool. It's just like, Oh my God, it
• 58:38
  was so over the top. So Mag finds Biff's body
• 58:42
  downstairs and she screams and that prompts Terry and Jan to
• 58:45
  run downstairs and check. And Beth isn't a Biff, isn't a
• 58:48
  soul shroud. You want to know?
• 58:50
  Whenever I first saw that, I thought I didn't know it was a
• 58:52
  shroud. I thought that she just tried to
• 58:54
  hide the body under a rug. What?
• 58:56
  A little fight. Yeah, that's what I thought it
• 58:58
  was. And yeah, Meg explains all this
• 59:01
  because it's written on the tag in the corner of the Soul
• 59:02
  Shroud. Yeah, I like that.
• 59:04
  Say, how do you know that it's on this corner right there?
• 59:06
  Yeah, so it's basically like gift wrap for Satan.
• 59:10
  Bert arrives and he knocks on the door.
• 59:12
  And this is like, very like 3's company omens.
• 59:15
  Like they don't want to let him in.
• 59:17
  Yeah. In which, like you, just
• 59:20
  discovered a dead body. I know and they they don't want
• 59:24
  to get. Fired.
• 59:25
  Is this is it worth? We're implicating ourselves in a
• 59:27
  murder over $100. Yes, yeah, they both agree or
• 59:31
  all three of them agree. Yeah, so they're trying to move
• 59:33
  the body and tell him that they need to get dressed before they
• 59:37
  can let him in. Meanwhile, the monster has
• 59:40
  Roxanne comes and finds him and is like, oh, that door is
• 59:42
  locked. How about you come downstairs to
• 59:44
  this teller? And then this scene is what I
• 59:47
  call in my notes. Came up with a great pun and
• 59:50
  called it basement instinct because she.
• 59:53
  Does. Yeah.
• 59:55
  Yeah. It's just seducing their
• 59:57
  birthday. Yeah.
• 59:58
  So she seduces Dick Miller down there and as he goes over there
• 1:00:03
  to get his Dick Miller his socks.
• 1:00:06
  His Dick Millard. Yeah, she bites it off.
• 1:00:10
  Yeah, dies. Yep.
• 1:00:13
  So the others find Roxanne's lingerie with like, blood all
• 1:00:17
  over it, and they're like, oh, something bad happened.
• 1:00:21
  Do we think Biff attacked her? And then they see the book and
• 1:00:23
  they see that the drawing's missing.
• 1:00:25
  And Meg's like, what if the incantation released the beast?
• 1:00:30
  And then she reads the page and says that's what happened.
• 1:00:32
  And then she said the dagger can kill it if.
• 1:00:36
  I can't read the rest of it. So they're like, well, let's go
• 1:00:39
  look for Roxanne. Maybe she can explain this.
• 1:00:40
  Maybe this is all a big misunderstanding.
• 1:00:43
  So they decided they're going to start in the basement because if
• 1:00:45
  they're going to die, they don't want it to be in the basement,
• 1:00:47
  which that logic doesn't really follow because if the killer is
• 1:00:50
  there, that's where they're going to die regardless.
• 1:00:52
  But yeah, yeah, whatever. So they find Bert's body and
• 1:00:58
  Roxanne's body, and they panic and run back upstairs.
• 1:01:03
  And their plan is that they're going to run for Henschlow's
• 1:01:05
  house. But then and he suddenly appears
• 1:01:07
  and he's like, hey, what's up? And yeah.
• 1:01:10
  And he recognizes the book and he like does that like trope of
• 1:01:14
  like knowing exactly like very specifically describes what it
• 1:01:18
  looks like the book is. Even though also the dagger is
• 1:01:21
  missing too. Yeah, and the dagger is missing.
• 1:01:24
  And then he transforms into Roxanne is like, oh, it's all a
• 1:01:26
  prank. And they're like, what is a
• 1:01:28
  prank, really? We watched him transform.
• 1:01:32
  I I think it happened while they were looking away.
• 1:01:35
  But at the same time, she should have been like, where the fuck
• 1:01:38
  is Hinchelo? He was just here.
• 1:01:40
  But nobody addresses it. And they're like, yeah, let's go
• 1:01:42
  to the basement. It's all a big prank.
• 1:01:44
  They're all laughing downstairs. Laughing until they get down
• 1:01:47
  there and see very clearly dead Biff and Bert and they're like
• 1:01:50
  shaking them. Yeah, they're just nudging the
• 1:01:52
  body. Like, come on, wake up, what are
• 1:01:54
  you doing? And then they realize that they
• 1:01:55
  actually are still dead. So they're going to make a run
• 1:01:58
  for it upstairs, but Jan is grabbed so and killed.
• 1:02:03
  So Terry and Meg run. But when they get up there, they
• 1:02:05
  can't find the dagger. They're going to improv with a
• 1:02:08
  improvise with a weapon fire poker.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah. But the monster attacks Terry
• 1:02:14
  and Terry tells Meg to run. So she she runs down the stairs,
• 1:02:17
  but she falls and hurts herself and she crawls towards the book.
• 1:02:21
  And the monster is like, listen, I am free, but I want to make
• 1:02:26
  sure all of the other drawings are free.
• 1:02:29
  I got to get you to release all of them and then extend your
• 1:02:33
  soul. And then that way we're all free
• 1:02:35
  forever. And I don't know what his grand
• 1:02:38
  plan was to make her do that. But luckily we don't have to
• 1:02:40
  find out because I killed Bill Pierce.
• 1:02:42
  It was going to be through intimidation, but that I feel
• 1:02:46
  like you lose that whenever you say and I'm going to kill you
• 1:02:48
  afterwards. Yeah, like I'm going to kill you
• 1:02:49
  anyway, OK. So I'm not going to do that.
• 1:02:51
  Then just kill me then let's just get to that part.
• 1:02:54
  Yeah. But yeah, Bill just busted.
• 1:02:56
  Like not so fast. Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  And so they fight, Meg helps and eventually Bill ends up stabbing
• 1:03:04
  the monster, his tummy, and it tries to crawl back to the book.
• 1:03:08
  And he says no, it can't be killed what's in the book.
• 1:03:11
  We must destroy the books. That way the beast can't live on
• 1:03:14
  quick to the fire and then the what goes knock.
• 1:03:18
  The fire. Yeah, I like that.
• 1:03:20
  The cartoon was like just kind of not.
• 1:03:22
  It wasn't even giving serious dialogue.
• 1:03:24
  Yeah. Oh, no, I can't believe this is
• 1:03:27
  happening to me. Or I'll get you in the sequel.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah, it it had. It's fun.
• 1:03:31
  Yeah. And so that happens.
• 1:03:34
  Bill is like, listen, I've been in limbo.
• 1:03:37
  I had to wait for this opportunity.
• 1:03:40
  It's so weird how it happens, like they sit down on the couch
• 1:03:43
  just kind of by the way, I'm Bill, like shake hands like,
• 1:03:48
  hey, so I was in limbo. I was waiting for somebody to
• 1:03:52
  come by to open up this book and unleash the tune.
• 1:03:56
  Yep. That way I can kill it cuz
• 1:03:58
  that's the only way to kill it. And.
• 1:04:01
  None of this was actually real. So and you wake up in the
• 1:04:04
  morning. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:05
  She's like, what about my friends?
• 1:04:07
  Like, that'll be OK. And none of this ever actually
• 1:04:09
  happened. But she wakes up in the morning,
• 1:04:11
  she's still very much injured. She still has like a giant gash
• 1:04:14
  on the side of her face. She's still limping and
• 1:04:16
  everybody wakes up where they were murdered at.
• 1:04:19
  Yeah, but they're all fine. I hope Dick so has a stick.
• 1:04:24
  And Mr. Henschelow comes in and he's got hot coffee for
• 1:04:26
  everyone, and it's portable TV. And they're like, what do we
• 1:04:28
  need that for? And he goes.
• 1:04:29
  It's Saturday morning, don't you want to watch cartoons?
• 1:04:33
  Yeah, she's she's. Why is that it?
• 1:04:37
  Was the 90s and I was fully expecting it to freeze like
• 1:04:40
  right as she started the screen but no, we just kept getting the
• 1:04:42
  screen into the credits. So what happens when this woman
• 1:04:45
  is just walking through the house, if she ever has kids, and
• 1:04:48
  they're like, mom, I want to watch the cartoon.
• 1:04:52
  Like, why? Like this is going to you.
• 1:04:57
  Know what? She had kids.
• 1:04:58
  Not too long after this. Those kids would probably be
• 1:05:00
  watching All Real Monsters. She would be in one of those
• 1:05:02
  households that would have banned cartoons.
• 1:05:04
  My God, yes. Yeah, man, sad life.
• 1:05:09
  OK. All right.
• 1:05:10
  So I still feel like this before or after talking about it?
• 1:05:13
  Yeah. I feel a little bit a bit
• 1:05:15
  better, but not better enough to raise the score.
• 1:05:17
  I think I I appreciate the absurdity of it and it leaning
• 1:05:21
  into absurd moments, but it wasn't enough to save it.
• 1:05:24
  Yeah, I think if it was like a cool hour, I'd be OK with it.
• 1:05:29
  Yeah, if you if they would have cut down the time, it would have
• 1:05:31
  helped a lot too and get some more fucking animation in there,
• 1:05:34
  like more of the cartoon character and possessed Roxanne
• 1:05:37
  and just stayed in her body most of the movie just.
• 1:05:41
  Like, yeah. It's basically nine of the
• 1:05:45
  demons at that point. She's basically Angela.
• 1:05:48
  Yeah. OK, I have a very important
• 1:05:51
  question for you. OK, What was Scout's favorite
• 1:05:54
  part? Oh God, Scout.
• 1:05:56
  Well, it definitely wasn't the bucket of blood.
• 1:05:58
  Part Absolutely not. Man, well, I probably when Megan
• 1:06:15
  said I got to go to the bathroom because Scout has been all about
• 1:06:20
  getting in the bathroom here lately.
• 1:06:22
  Good guess, but no. Obviously her favorite part was
• 1:06:26
  when the book was thrown into the fire because it was nice and
• 1:06:28
  toasty. I.
• 1:06:29
  Almost said that, but I thought that that would have been too
• 1:06:32
  easy. Oh, here's the trick is that I
• 1:06:35
  always have two answers. So I you did have that one.
• 1:06:39
  Ah, damn it, I've gotten it one time before.
• 1:06:41
  I'm. Always ready.
• 1:06:43
  Except for the one time I wasn't.
• 1:06:44
  On Gatwab, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
• 1:06:46
  I cherished that. OK, Dream sequel.
• 1:06:51
  Obviously a crossover with Evil Dead, right?
• 1:06:54
  Like we want to see this book in the Necronomicon talking to each
• 1:06:57
  other. You know what I would like?
• 1:07:00
  I would love if they did like Space Jam.
• 1:07:07
  So they they take they take the actual Looney Tunes characters
• 1:07:12
  and they go horror with it. Instead of Looney Tunes though,
• 1:07:18
  Animaniacs. Yeah, dude, perfect.
• 1:07:22
  Animaniacs needs that. They would thrive in that.
• 1:07:25
  Environment. Yes, that is the logical
• 1:07:27
  conclusion to the Animaniacs. Well, that means it has to be
• 1:07:31
  directed by Steven Spielberg, obviously.
• 1:07:34
  Yeah, He's got to be involved in some capacity, man.
• 1:07:40
  But like really like not necessarily even those
• 1:07:44
  characters, but like a larger cast and more screen time for
• 1:07:49
  them so. More of a story, like more for
• 1:07:53
  them to do besides talk about screams happening downstairs or
• 1:07:57
  to fight with a wine bottle for 15 minutes, you know?
• 1:08:00
  Yeah, so I guess shit, man, like what?
• 1:08:07
  OK, we could do. We could definitely do the Evil
• 1:08:09
  Dead thing. I think that that with it
• 1:08:11
  basically being the Necronomicon right there, it would work well.
• 1:08:15
  I want like, no, like you said, I want like Evil Dead meets
• 1:08:19
  Space Jam meets Animaniacs. Like I want.
• 1:08:23
  I want all of those. OK, elements together.
• 1:08:26
  Just mix that together. Yeah, your story.
• 1:08:28
  It doesn't even have to have a story again.
• 1:08:29
  But if you get those, those are fun characters to watch no
• 1:08:32
  matter what. Yeah, I don't need like a whole
• 1:08:34
  complete story for that. Just watch them be wacky.
• 1:08:36
  Do it you have like, Yaako making some sort of a comment
• 1:08:40
  about like, sure isn't a whole lot of plot to discuss in this
• 1:08:44
  film, right? Like their whole thing is
• 1:08:46
  breaking on the 4th. Wall Yeah, well, OK, here you
• 1:08:48
  just do Evil Dead 2 again, because Evil Dead Two really has
• 1:08:51
  no plot. They remade it once, you know,
• 1:08:54
  because it's basically Evil Dead.
• 1:08:56
  And then the deadites are the Animaniacs.
• 1:08:59
  Yeah, yeah. They like it unleashes them.
• 1:09:01
  They're one of the things that gets unleashed.
• 1:09:04
  OK. It's like another remake of The
• 1:09:07
  Evil Dead by Sam Raimi. Again where?
• 1:09:09
  Or they're not even deadites, they're just like they're normal
• 1:09:12
  selves, like just fucking up shit along with the deadites.
• 1:09:15
  Oh yeah no, like I feel like it needs to be them.
• 1:09:18
  I guess you could maybe like they could be a variation of
• 1:09:20
  deadite. But when he puts the chainsaw
• 1:09:25
  onto his arm, one of them is just like cool idea and then
• 1:09:29
  does the same. Thing.
• 1:09:30
  Yeah, yeah, the movie writes itself.
• 1:09:33
  Yeah. Yeah, OK.
• 1:09:34
  Who did you relate? To man I related to Dick Miller
• 1:09:39
  appreciating Dick Miller. You know what?
• 1:09:43
  Hard same. Yeah.
• 1:09:44
  Second place. Going to Roxanne for fighting
• 1:09:47
  with that wine bottle. I'm terrified of champagne
• 1:09:49
  bottles. Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:52
  It it is a weakness of mine because they scare me because
• 1:09:55
  they're loud and they pop. That's true.
• 1:09:57
  So. OK, let's see.
• 1:10:01
  Do you have reviews for us? I do yes.
• 1:10:05
  So as this tradition for to be or not to be, we pick 2 reviews.
• 1:10:10
  OK. Let's see, where is the first
• 1:10:13
  one? OK, here is the good one.
• 1:10:23
  It is a 10 out of 10. An honest review is what the
• 1:10:29
  title is. What?
• 1:10:30
  Why is the rating so low here? It wasn't like this movie even
• 1:10:34
  tried to be good. It wasn't like it even tried to
• 1:10:36
  tell you it was good. This movie was a bad was a bad
• 1:10:39
  movie made to be a bad movie made to entertain you on the
• 1:10:42
  basis of it being a bad movie. To achieve that goal, you can't
• 1:10:46
  give the movie three stars for achieving the goal is set out to
• 1:10:50
  and to ensure it is bad and entertaining.
• 1:10:53
  A cartoon rapes someone? What the fuck?
• 1:10:55
  That's not entertaining. Yeah, that's right.
• 1:10:58
  You have a cartoon raping and given.
• 1:11:00
  OK, whatever. It's kind of like someone
• 1:11:03
  watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit and then said, hey, we can do
• 1:11:06
  that. So much worse.
• 1:11:08
  You think that's good? We can make a movie like it that
• 1:11:11
  is so bad you'll love it. And that is exactly what they
• 1:11:14
  did. That's a twisted B rated version
• 1:11:16
  of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Only the cartoons are evil and
• 1:11:21
  that makes it not better. But in a category all to its
• 1:11:25
  own, it's not trying to scare you and even the jokes aren't
• 1:11:28
  trying to make you laugh. It's trying to be a bad movie
• 1:11:31
  that entertains you by hitting all the cliches of the bad movie
• 1:11:34
  genres. So 10 out of 10 stars itself.
• 1:11:36
  It's set a goal for itself and achieved it.
• 1:11:39
  Here's the thing. If a movie is going to be so bad
• 1:11:41
  it's good, it's either got to be it's either got to play it
• 1:11:45
  straight or it's got to play it up.
• 1:11:46
  And this movie doesn't do enough of either.
• 1:11:48
  Saying a cartoon raping somebody is funny is.
• 1:11:51
  In a very good call. Yeah, that was strange.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah, and then, OK, so while we paused to address Talia's
• 1:12:00
  barking at the game, we got to talking about Bam out of IU.
• 1:12:06
  Who I have heard enjoys listening to Katy Perry, or at
• 1:12:11
  least he did back when he was Auk player.
• 1:12:13
  Yes, before games. And then I made a comment about
• 1:12:17
  Katy Perry's like crash and burn that's happening right now and
• 1:12:21
  you did not know much about it. So he she recently released.
• 1:12:26
  You're saving it for the episode.
• 1:12:27
  Yes. Well, not intentionally, but
• 1:12:30
  this is where we're at because this is it ties in.
• 1:12:32
  Just hold on. OK, so she recently released a
• 1:12:36
  song that was produced and featured Dr. Luke who the whole
• 1:12:40
  like drama with Kesha. That was a few years ago.
• 1:12:43
  I won't go into that if you don't know.
• 1:12:44
  About it, I know about that. Yeah.
• 1:12:46
  So he's just not not like a good guy.
• 1:12:48
  So it's this whole song and video featuring him.
• 1:12:52
  And the song is called Women's World.
• 1:12:54
  And it was meant to be like this commentary on like, societal
• 1:12:57
  expectations of women. And it bombed really hard.
• 1:13:01
  And after a bomb, she came out. She's like, guys, it was satire
• 1:13:04
  the whole time. And that's what this review is
• 1:13:07
  doing. It's like, Oh no guys, no, it's
• 1:13:09
  good because it's meant to be bad.
• 1:13:11
  Oh, that's so strange. That's how this review feels.
• 1:13:14
  Look, and The thing is like, I like movies that are meant to be
• 1:13:20
  bad, that know that they're bad and.
• 1:13:23
  Yes, I love those, but you can't.
• 1:13:26
  You can't half ass a bad movie. We've talked so much about the
• 1:13:30
  good ones here where we've given them praise where they're bad,
• 1:13:32
  but they do it in a way where it's entertaining.
• 1:13:35
  Yes, this doesn't have had enough heart throughout.
• 1:13:38
  No it doesn't. And there.
• 1:13:40
  And that's The thing is that when you see those shining
• 1:13:42
  moments, you're like, Oh no, this has capacity to be really
• 1:13:45
  funny and smart and stupid all at the same time, and it
• 1:13:48
  doesn't. It's half baked.
• 1:13:50
  Yes. They they, I feel like they
• 1:13:52
  rushed it. They're like, we do it here and
• 1:13:54
  here and here and then the parts in between are just going to be
• 1:13:57
  kind of myth. Yeah.
• 1:13:58
  And that's just not good enough for me.
• 1:14:00
  Yeah. This is this is one of those
• 1:14:02
  movies that like, I'm not, I'm not mad.
• 1:14:04
  I'm just disappointed, yeah. Like, I think many people that
• 1:14:07
  listen to the show know that we like bad movies.
• 1:14:09
  Yeah. So I think maybe they understand
• 1:14:12
  where we're coming from with this.
• 1:14:14
  OK, I've got a bad review for Evil Tunes, so let's talk about
• 1:14:18
  that. OK.
• 1:14:20
  Why not in Simply Dreadful. Never thought nudity could be
• 1:14:22
  made so boring as well. That's the title of it.
• 1:14:25
  OK. The title Evil Tunes is quite
• 1:14:28
  incorrect. It should be actually evil tune
• 1:14:31
  instead, as there is only one tune that appears, and rather
• 1:14:35
  badly for such brief moments. To then save on the budget for
• 1:14:38
  animation, Fred Olin Ray has the tune possessed one of the gals
• 1:14:42
  then to assure topless scenes, she may then attacks the others,
• 1:14:45
  making sure to tear off their tops first before killing them.
• 1:14:48
  Even the scene with the gals stripping and dancing is more
• 1:14:51
  laughable than enticing, as the way she shakes her stuff was
• 1:14:55
  rather jarring instead of fun. I still can't figure out how he
• 1:14:59
  managed to stretch the time out on this one with so little of
• 1:15:02
  what guys are going to be looking for.
• 1:15:04
  It's that boring. I realized this was intended as
• 1:15:07
  silly, stupid, sexy fun. Of the four previous words I
• 1:15:11
  just mentioned, stupid is the only one that fits.
• 1:15:14
  It's not sexy, not funny enough, obviously not scary.
• 1:15:18
  I don't think that was even expected.
• 1:15:20
  And the time wasted to get the parts that are drawn of that are
• 1:15:24
  the draw of the film. The breasts make the nudity
• 1:15:27
  boring once you get there. I wish I could get back to 90
• 1:15:30
  minutes taken from my life because of this film.
• 1:15:32
  I've had much more fun standing in line at the post office or
• 1:15:36
  the bank. First of all, calm down, it's 82
• 1:15:38
  minutes. Second of all.
• 1:15:40
  But it feels longer. It does feel longer, yeah.
• 1:15:44
  No, I just. I think, I mean they know and
• 1:15:47
  like they try to set up for that but they failed at it.
• 1:15:50
  Like, there's really good ideas there.
• 1:15:52
  I just. And yeah, the whole like only
• 1:15:55
  having the cartoon on there for a couple of times does feel like
• 1:15:57
  he was cheaping out on the animation.
• 1:15:59
  I mean, it's exactly what it was.
• 1:16:00
  And I mean that was like the pitch of the idea and then you
• 1:16:03
  just don't even follow through with the main idea of the movie.
• 1:16:07
  It's it's bait and switch, honestly.
• 1:16:09
  Yeah. And even though you're throwing
• 1:16:12
  all this nudity in there, it's not enough to save it at all.
• 1:16:15
  I'm pissed off that I didn't get the fucking cartoon.
• 1:16:20
  OK. All right.
• 1:16:22
  I guess that leads us to our question.
• 1:16:25
  Yeah, To be or not to be? Yeah, we've shat on this a lot,
• 1:16:30
  but I know that this movie has an audience out there, Darcy
• 1:16:33
  said. She wants this movie.
• 1:16:34
  Oh, I was gonna say I could totally see Darcy.
• 1:16:36
  Especially like the whole bit at the end with the Saturday
• 1:16:38
  morning cartoons. Yeah, like that feels like made
• 1:16:42
  written for Darcy. Like this is one of those I
• 1:16:45
  could see as just having stupid fun on again.
• 1:16:48
  And I know I say this about a lot of the Toby or not Toby
• 1:16:50
  movies, but like, this is one that if we were like just, you
• 1:16:53
  know, working on some random project or cleaning the house or
• 1:16:55
  something and we put it on Toby or Pluto and it came up like we
• 1:16:59
  wouldn't change it and we'd pause to watch the parts that we
• 1:17:01
  liked. Yeah, that's true.
• 1:17:03
  And there's enough of those in here.
• 1:17:05
  They like I always have something but.
• 1:17:06
  Yeah. And as we were trying that, I
• 1:17:07
  was like, Oh yeah, this part was funny.
• 1:17:09
  This part was funny. There's more about it than like,
• 1:17:11
  when you're thinking about the movie as a whole, you think more
• 1:17:14
  about the dullness of the going up and down.
• 1:17:16
  And there are a lot of individual moments that really
• 1:17:18
  shine with it, but it just as a cohesive thing doesn't work for
• 1:17:23
  me. Yeah.
• 1:17:23
  So I would say. I would watch it again.
• 1:17:27
  I'd say Toby. Yeah, Toby.
• 1:17:29
  Do it like but you just have to. I want people to know what to
• 1:17:34
  expect going in. Don't expect the cartoon stuff
• 1:17:37
  cuz you're gonna be let down if that's the case.
• 1:17:39
  And I don't know how I would feel about this movie if last
• 1:17:42
  night you pitched it to me as horror, Who Killed Roger Rabbit?
• 1:17:46
  And I was like, that's really exciting, especially because
• 1:17:48
  there's some parts of Who Killed Roger Rabbit that are writing
• 1:17:51
  themselves very horrifying. Like, think about the shoot.
• 1:17:54
  Yeah, if I didn't have that expectation, what would my
• 1:18:01
  opinion of this movie be? I don't know.
• 1:18:03
  And I hope that you all out there watch this, have your own
• 1:18:06
  expectations for it. Maybe you'll enjoy it going into
• 1:18:09
  it. Yeah.
• 1:18:09
  If you do, let us know. Yeah, we're all about that.
• 1:18:12
  Yeah. So it's definitely for somebody
• 1:18:14
  out there, but not for us. Yeah, at this moment, maybe
• 1:18:17
  another time. Yeah, it's casually a background
• 1:18:19
  for us. Yeah, it's not like we're oh,
• 1:18:23
  what are we watching this weekend?
• 1:18:24
  We're watching Eagle too. I'm bringing David.
• 1:18:29
  Like, yeah, so. All right, that does it then.
• 1:18:34
  All right, be sure to stay asleep for Thursday.
• 1:18:38
  Stay asleep. Consume.
• 1:18:40
  Yeah, obey. Yeah, Yeah, obey.
• 1:18:43
  Consume, marry and reproduce. Do all those things because
• 1:18:48
  we're talking about they live. And that's what we're actually
• 1:18:51
  about to record right after this.
• 1:18:52
  On the glasses. Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  So yeah, there's not a place to currently stream that, but.
• 1:19:00
  Yeah, I'm not going to read up, but yeah, we don't do that
• 1:19:03
  because. No, that's true.
• 1:19:04
  But go watch it if you're able to.
• 1:19:06
  It's a great movie. It's a fun time.
• 1:19:07
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• 1:19:11
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• 1:19:22
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• 1:19:24
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• 1:19:27
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• 1:19:36
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• 1:19:40
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• 1:19:44
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  Where'd you find that at? I got an alert from.
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  From the Spotify for for podcasters.
• 1:19:53
  Yeah, shit. Yeah, I got an alert from.
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  It this morning we can publish those.
• 1:19:58
  OK. He needs review.
• 1:20:00
  OK, Hey, it's Tristan Canada. Hey, this is the he's on
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  Facebook and he's one of the listeners over there, man.
• 1:20:09
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• 1:20:11
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  Mark Yeah, check Mark. So you.
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  Yeah, so go to public. So let's see what Tristan Canada
• 1:20:21
  says. That's on Hostile Part 3.
• 1:20:23
  So the category Spotify generates are amazing.
• 1:20:27
  That's what I woke up to this morning.
• 1:20:28
  And it was just it made me feel really good because I do it.
• 1:20:32
  I look forward to seeing the numbers of our show.
• 1:20:37
  Yeah. It's like just, you know, the
• 1:20:39
  thing you watch when you do this.
• 1:20:40
  But I also look forward to seeing what Spotify gives us
• 1:20:43
  this chapter titles. And it's it's so much fun the.
• 1:20:46
  Chapter titles are really. Fun.
• 1:20:48
  My favorite is Mikey. 28 I know. I love that.
• 1:20:51
  It shows that. Yeah, Mikey is 28 on one of
• 1:20:55
  them. I think it was pieces.
• 1:20:57
  One of them is just says Taylor Swift.
• 1:21:01
  We never talked about Taylor Swift one time in that episode.
• 1:21:04
  I have no idea where that came from.
• 1:21:07
  We're going to play that after we're off the air from this
• 1:21:10
  because I want to know where that clip starts.
• 1:21:12
  Yeah, me too. I'm I'm very curious about why
• 1:21:14
  it thinks we were talking about Taylor Swift.
• 1:21:16
  OK. All right, So yeah, do that.
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  That's cool. We'll publish them on there.
• 1:21:20
  And thank you for doing that, Tristan.
• 1:21:21
  It's really cool. That was, I'm not joking when
• 1:21:24
  like I woke up and I was like, what the fuck is this icon
• 1:21:27
  notification on my phone? And then I read that I was like.
• 1:21:30
  Ah, that's amazing. That's fun, yeah.
• 1:21:32
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• 1:22:04
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• 1:22:09
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