Latest / Millennial Mustard Seed / S4 80. Video Ep- The Depths – M Basham of Fringe Radio Network
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- 0:01All righty, Hallelujah. This is Michael Basham with
- 0:04Spirit Force Fringe Radio Network.
- 0:05And we're just doing not a shot off the cuff cuz both of us, we
- 0:10have been preparing our entire lives for this moment.
- 0:15I have Rod from the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast and it's.
- 0:20Awesome to be here with you, bro.
- 0:23Yes Sir. And we have a lot to talk about
- 0:26and I think the Holy Spirit is gonna direct the conversation
- 0:30today. But First off, why don't you
- 0:33tell us about the podcast for those who haven't heard.
- 0:36And I want to thank Jarelyn from Strange O'clock podcast for
- 0:41managing back end the Zoom. So.
- 0:44You're very welcome. Yeah.
- 0:46My gosh, she's here for. The sky I.
- 0:50Requested so blurry. I didn't know if that was mine
- 0:53speak or if she's really here. It's the voice to skull
- 0:59technology. Yes, but it's happening at the
- 1:02same time and. It's a female voice.
- 1:09Peach, you're a blessing. We're very thankful for
- 1:12everything that you're doing. I'm very blessed by you guys.
- 1:16Have a wonderful podcast? Feel free to chime in at any
- 1:20time. If we're like getting lost and
- 1:22both of us have like 10 seconds of silence, we're like, which
- 1:27can never happen with podcast code, podcast hosts.
- 1:32But just tell us about the show like it's the end times, you
- 1:35know, nuclear war on the horizon.
- 1:37You know you we're our mutual friend.
- 1:39Enoch Petris did this whole thing about Med Bed.
- 1:42So I was just listening to that. I'm thinking like, your show has
- 1:45such a wide spectrum. Obviously, we've interviewed a
- 1:48lot of the same people. Just what's the how did you get
- 1:53started? What's the mission?
- 1:55What's the vision, the mission? What do we do as listeners, too?
- 1:59Because I think a lot of people don't know what to do with
- 2:01nuclear war and the end times and giants and fallen angels and
- 2:05aliens and what the heck the Bible actually says and Michael
- 2:08Heiser. So Sir, please take the mic.
- 2:10I'm going to try to just butt in every once in a while, but I
- 2:14want to hear about what is the millennial mustard seed and how
- 2:18you got inspired to do this. Well, I think the first thing
- 2:21I'll start with is don't forget to keep your sense of humor and
- 2:25and laugh because it is medicine to the body.
- 2:28So a good laugh is definitely needed.
- 2:32But in a nutshell, like you said with everything that is going on
- 2:36today, we're watching it on the wall.
- 2:39You know we're we're peering out and and we're seeing these
- 2:42things going on. And for those of us who have the
- 2:44calling to report back and to warn people and say listen.
- 2:48This is really going down, you know?
- 2:50I don't want the blood on my hands.
- 2:52This is what I see. None of us are claiming to be
- 2:54right all the time. That's one of the things I like
- 2:56to stress to my audiences. The way that I see it is
- 3:00everybody has a little something wrong and everybody has a little
- 3:02something right. And I'm looking for what's right
- 3:05and what people are doing, you know, I'm looking for.
- 3:09Those positions in the Eclaicia, the body of Christ that are
- 3:13coming forth according to the leading in the Spirit, that's
- 3:16who I'm looking for on the radar, because that's who I want
- 3:18to be aligned with, because I believe that's how God is going
- 3:21to move according to the the, the shifting and the flow of the
- 3:25Spirit. Because we've seen way too much
- 3:27of this pretend church, Excuse me, We're just like, you know,
- 3:33the building mentality, right? Like you show up to the building
- 3:35and that's where the church begins.
- 3:37And I have a chip on my shoulder.
- 3:39I am a millennial, obviously, right?
- 3:42And I always considered myself to be this small, insignificant
- 3:45little seed. But once I understood the power
- 3:48of just a little bit of faith in God's calling on your life, it
- 3:52really started to make sense. As as this podcast came into
- 3:56being, I always say the seed was planted a long time ago,
- 3:59Michael, You know through a lot of the just the ups, the downs,
- 4:02the good, the bad, the ugly, the beautiful, everything in between
- 4:05God had. I mean, we were born for such a
- 4:07time as this, So we all have a calling on our life.
- 4:10It's very important that we we take up that calling and we take
- 4:13it seriously, but at the same time that we just become aware
- 4:16and we have humility that we're just like, hey, this is who I
- 4:19am. This is what I can offer and
- 4:20we're we're being meek, right? We have reserved power, but
- 4:24we're being meek. So in a nutshell, the millennia
- 4:26must exceed. Really what goes on is I capture
- 4:29the journey, my faith journey, and just broaden the spectrum by
- 4:33interviewing A diversity of different people.
- 4:36And by kind of like capturing that audio library of this
- 4:40journey over the years is helping me to see things,
- 4:42connect things. And by hearing other people's
- 4:44testimonies and hearing the research that's out there, it's
- 4:49really like connecting dots and helping my faith process too,
- 4:52because I'm hearing trigger words as time goes on and I'm
- 4:54going, why is that significant for me?
- 4:57Why do I feel like I need to go in and study this now?
- 5:00And then I reverses like study to show yourself well approved,
- 5:03right. And it's like you can kind of if
- 5:05you're reading the word and a lot and being sensitive to the
- 5:08process, you can see God, you are working in a mysterious way
- 5:11in my life. So the mustard seed is, is my
- 5:14representation to the rest of the world.
- 5:17You guys take this process, come join me on my journey through
- 5:20this process and we all have something important to say.
- 5:24And like I said, I like to highlight what I see that's
- 5:27right in people because. I'm not.
- 5:29I'm not with this whole I'm right, you're wrong.
- 5:31I'm going to disassemble your ministry and write a book about
- 5:33everything you have wrong, like we see other people do.
- 5:36I don't think there's there's power in that.
- 5:38I think there's power in the message of the cross and us
- 5:41agreeing on on the majors first and then let God work out the
- 5:45rest. God will raise them up.
- 5:46God will set them down. So that's just in, you know,
- 5:48just as a brief overview. That's kind of what's going on
- 5:51with the podcast over the last few years.
- 5:55Well, it sounds like you're very much on the track with the Holy
- 5:57Spirit, Sir. And how would you describe, I
- 6:00think overall we're on the kind of the fringe Christian
- 6:05spectrum. And I talked to a lot of people
- 6:07that don't understand even what that is, and they just think
- 6:11that there's Trump people and Democrats and that's it.
- 6:14And they don't understand, like, there's going to church, but
- 6:17then there's learning about deeper things, like the meat of
- 6:21the Bible, the Michael Heiser kind of stuff that's like
- 6:23uncomfortable to talk about And maybe without mentioning names,
- 6:27let's like, let's fight with one hand behind her back for people
- 6:31that don't even know who Michael Heiser is, like, how do we
- 6:33explain, you know, what's happening today?
- 6:36And I don't think we're streaming on YouTube so we can
- 6:38talk about the vaccines and the DNARNA, weird things that are
- 6:42happening, changing the DNAI mean.
- 6:44What do you think about this movement and how does that play
- 6:48in because you've had obviously quite a number of fringe
- 6:53Christians on your show? Yeah, I mean that's a really
- 6:57good question and that that's a big question.
- 6:59But the way that it that God is kind of showed this to me in the
- 7:03way that I'm trying to enter in and contend in this space is
- 7:07that we first of all we have churches on every corner and
- 7:11every town and city and neighborhood here in this
- 7:13country. So if those men of God,
- 7:16according to that documentation from seminary, and I'm not
- 7:19saying that, that all of these guys are bad, I'm just going to
- 7:21throw this out there, Eat the meat, spit out the bones, you
- 7:24guys. But if all of these churches
- 7:27were fulfilling their role, would we be in the state we're
- 7:30in, in this country? You know what I mean?
- 7:32What we see the things happening politically, what we see the
- 7:34things happening with the music industry, with the imagery, with
- 7:38the inculcation of our younger generations, every generation,
- 7:41through all these formats of entertainment.
- 7:44That really have been so we've been subject because of this
- 7:48cultural melting pot that we are in this country to what I
- 7:51consider to be like a phase one Level 1 satanic ritual abuse,
- 7:55right. Like just our subconscious is
- 7:58picking up the music, we're picking up the imagery.
- 8:01You know we're we're forced into this rat race style culture,
- 8:04right. So if if the men of God who were
- 8:08here before us, or or. The old, the elders.
- 8:11Right now we're really fulfilling their role.
- 8:13I think we'd see more love and we see more unity.
- 8:16First of all, we see the absence of that.
- 8:18So that means God has to raise other people up according to the
- 8:21power of the Spirit, because he's going to get glory for his
- 8:24name. And he talks of the Remnant.
- 8:26We know that there's a Remnant, and you shall know them by by
- 8:30their love for one another. You shall know them like the
- 8:32uneducated will speak and perplex the wise because the
- 8:35Spirit is with them. Right.
- 8:36So these are things we look out for.
- 8:38Now, when we're talking about the meat of the word, the
- 8:40Apostle Paul says I desired to share the meat with you, but you
- 8:44guys were stuck on milk, right? You guys still have, you guys
- 8:47are still jealous of each other. You guys are still trying to
- 8:50hold each other back, right? And we see this even in like
- 8:52this, this influencer world, right?
- 8:55There's certain people that will go out in the forefront.
- 8:57And they will publicly honor other people and privately, they
- 9:00will honor these other people and the people that they're
- 9:03honoring. They'll move in such a way where
- 9:05it's like, well, how can I get your audience or how can I
- 9:07collaborate with you just so, like, because you have an
- 9:10anointing on you. And and I want to absorb some of
- 9:12that. So I see a lot of that.
- 9:13And I'll never drop names because my goal is not to be
- 9:17writing books about what we're doing wrong.
- 9:19We're overlooking these flaws. And we're going, you know what?
- 9:21Let's keep moving forward. But let's be wise.
- 9:23Why is this serpent harmless as a dove, right?
- 9:26And then? You got to read and study to
- 9:29show yourself well approved. So if you have a man of God in
- 9:32your life, you're submitted to a ministry that's awesome.
- 9:34We do not forsake the gathering. Two or three are gathered.
- 9:37We believe in your shoe of the resurrection.
- 9:39He's in our presence. But we have a mission to get
- 9:42into the word for ourselves. And when you have questions,
- 9:45somebody out there who's listening, whether it's live on
- 9:47the recording, if you have questions about the Bible and
- 9:51you're asking it to people in your sphere.
- 9:54And they're unwilling to answer. But you feel like there's
- 9:57something to it. You trust the movement of of
- 10:00that tugging of the Spirit if God is is trying because there's
- 10:03great exploits still to be done. And God, you see God is
- 10:07mysterious at the same time as he's being revealed through his
- 10:10Son Jesus to us. So there's this beautiful mix of
- 10:13mystery and marvel and majesty within this God that we wish the
- 10:18worship. And we need more people to get
- 10:20excited because of the personal relationship they have with God,
- 10:23because of studying the word for themself.
- 10:26And so I really am trying to ignite that and people get
- 10:28people interested in the Bible again.
- 10:30Chuck Misler was one of the guys who really laid, the first
- 10:33person who laid that foundation to be like, it's okay to go
- 10:35there because I had personal things, a supernatural life.
- 10:38But I would go to people face to face, skin to skin, and they be
- 10:42like, oh man, that's too much. You know, you don't need to be
- 10:44thinking about that, worrying about get get this right in your
- 10:46life right now. And it's like, yeah, they were,
- 10:48they were partially right. But you we want to fan the fame,
- 10:53the the, the flame of faith in people, right?
- 10:57So we don't want to hinder this natural, you know, desire to
- 11:01want to know how these things connect.
- 11:02It's a good thing to want understanding.
- 11:05It's a good thing to want to know about Genesis 64 if you
- 11:08don't know who Doctor Michael Haiser is.
- 11:10I highly recommend you find out who he is, right?
- 11:12He's on to something we need. We need more men like that.
- 11:16And we also need more people that are willing to fill in the
- 11:19void. You know, really just to fill in
- 11:21that space where it's like we're talking with the guy next door,
- 11:25we're not afraid to talk with. You know these lawyers and these
- 11:28doctors and these theologians and all these different people,
- 11:30and we need to take the favoritism off the table.
- 11:33We need to start looking at people as like, you have value,
- 11:35regardless if you're bagging my groceries or if you're the
- 11:38doctor. The the biggest hit is book
- 11:39lately. I need to have that same style
- 11:41of love and respect for you and understand that God may be
- 11:45trying to use something. That that he created me with,
- 11:48working in and through me to capture a part of your mind,
- 11:52right? To help you get unlocked, to
- 11:54break down this false reality overlay as the end of all would
- 11:57say, right. This, this broken and and
- 12:00disappearing and and darkened system that seems like it's
- 12:04overlaying everything that God created to be good and pure.
- 12:07So we're contending for that space.
- 12:09We're contending for people's hearts first and foremost.
- 12:12And we're trying to walk out that what we preach.
- 12:14Do I stumble? Yes.
- 12:15I tell people I'm not the best person to follow.
- 12:18Like I'm not a great follower. Like don't be like Rod how do I
- 12:21do this or that. I'm like follow Christ.
- 12:23And then, you know we bear each other's burdens and so fulfill
- 12:27the law. So where I'm weak, I might need
- 12:29you for that where you're strong, right.
- 12:31It's like OKI might need lift it up here so that it's, it takes
- 12:34humility too. I hope I answer your question.
- 12:36I kind of forgot exactly what you asked.
- 12:39But that's right, man. I just.
- 12:42I think you nailed it. I mean you you're getting into
- 12:45just the overall mission is to win souls and fringe
- 12:49radionetwork.com, fringe Christian movement since the
- 12:53early days of the Internet. What we're trying to bring out
- 12:56here is not look at my new research.
- 12:59It's so interesting. You never heard about this
- 13:01before. It's not like to bring people to
- 13:03us like ooh, I've got the secrets for you.
- 13:06Although I hope people will get educated when they go to
- 13:09Millennial Mustard Seed podcast and they go through the list of
- 13:13just just this insanely broad spectrum.
- 13:16I mean, you got William Ramsey on there, you got so many people
- 13:18that we've also interviewed strange o'clock podcasts and my
- 13:21show Spirit for Spirit Wars like all this stuff.
- 13:24And to just try to, like, digest all of that, to break it all
- 13:27down. You feel like you just turned
- 13:29into another species of entity when you digest it all, but at
- 13:36the same time, you just nailed it as as far as like, we're
- 13:38trying to win stoles here. And it's like, here's something
- 13:41interesting, here's something cool, here's something that
- 13:42might save your life. Like want to have your, you
- 13:45know, not die from when you get the next weird COVID thing and
- 13:49like, learn about alternative cures to what they're promoting
- 13:53on mainstream media, like just lifesaving stuff.
- 13:56But even that is not the reason why we do this.
- 13:58And I think we're very aligned in in our purpose here.
- 14:01Although I have to say, you sound a lot cooler than me, man.
- 14:04I'm like, I'm like, hey guys, can I hang out at the cool table
- 14:07at the high school like I want? To hang out with you, Michael, I
- 14:11want to hang out with you. Well, I always make friends with
- 14:14the cool people. Like I'm like the dork that gets
- 14:16bullied. But then like by junior year I'm
- 14:19best friends with the, you know, the the quarterback of like the.
- 14:22I went to Naples High and we had like the top football team and
- 14:26I'm like, why does he like me like but?
- 14:30It's a bro, man. Geez, hey, no girls allowed.
- 14:35Geralyn, what's going on here? I'm your conscience.
- 14:40That's not my speaker good, man. It's starting to freak me out,
- 14:43bro. Yeah, that literally surprised
- 14:47me. Ohh geez, no, it's actually
- 14:50quite pleasant, thank you. Just so you're on guard.
- 14:51You're just like when when you know, yeah, somebody's like
- 14:55somebody competent is listening to us, that's gonna look to me
- 14:59anyway. You're being, you're doing a
- 15:01great job, by the way. So we have a mutual friend,
- 15:04Enoch Putrice. Like, how did you guys meet?
- 15:06That's interesting. Let's just kind of, you know, go
- 15:09all over the place now much. Of the She created our audience
- 15:12like 2 podcast hosts. Let's talk shop here on air.
- 15:17So it's actually Peach gets honor for this right?
- 15:21And she gets the recognition for really doing a lot of this
- 15:24behind the scenes work. So she was assembling.
- 15:27The, the first I guess you could say round table or collaboration
- 15:32episode that I was on which was with William Ramsey kind of
- 15:36being like the the, the guest of honor, right.
- 15:39And we have like all these different screens, the Hollywood
- 15:42screens across the the zoom call for that episode and I released
- 15:46that actually I think it was the very beginning of this year
- 15:48because we've recorded that. I want, I'd like to say December
- 15:51of last year 22, right? So I didn't know who anybody
- 15:56was. I didn't know anybody knew who I
- 15:58was. I mean, I knew Chuck from 5 def
- 16:00radio actually, because I was already in.
- 16:02We were in communication for for a little while and but everybody
- 16:07was pretty much a new face to me.
- 16:08I mean, William. I knew because I interviewed him
- 16:11actually almost a year and what two or three days ago to the to
- 16:15the day, and he had put my one of my episodes up called The
- 16:19Past, The Present and the Future.
- 16:21On his show and then obviously was aired on mine.
- 16:24So Enoch Putris was one of these squares on this, this interview,
- 16:29right. We have all these different
- 16:30people spread out and Peach put that together and she, you know,
- 16:34was really pushing behind the scenes for just let's come
- 16:37together, let's be in agreement here.
- 16:38We're broadbanding a message to win souls.
- 16:40The ripple effective information can go out there.
- 16:43And really, there might be just one person who you drop
- 16:46something they needed to hear. That that shifts and changes for
- 16:50them and brings them, you know, into ultimately what they're
- 16:52called to or you know anything. We don't know the ripple effect.
- 16:56So I love that mystery of it. But so it was Peach.
- 16:59You put this together. And so I'm just, you know, some
- 17:02podcaster. I I don't know who knows me or I
- 17:04don't know many people. I'm just finding people authors,
- 17:07I'm finding people from other podcasts and just across the
- 17:10spectrum of I want to interview and collaborate and talk with
- 17:12these people. I need to figure out what's in
- 17:14their mind and then I need to try to digest it, right?
- 17:18So I found Enoch through that episode where William Ramsey was
- 17:22our our guest, right. And so Enoch immediately kind of
- 17:26like clicked with me after that recording and we started just
- 17:28talking. So it started with like you
- 17:30know, phone calls and just him picking my brain, I'd pick his
- 17:33brain and we go back and forth. So we really just developed off
- 17:37air relationship and then he started to see.
- 17:41Things that he was saying, well, this is a highlight or like a
- 17:45rabbit trail that you're really good at working with, right?
- 17:47Like something that you can see and digest well for, for the
- 17:51other layman's next door, just like me, right.
- 17:53The guy who's, you know, doing concrete this week or cutting
- 17:56grass, He's like a lot of these guys are my listeners, right?
- 17:59And they just the people out there with calluses on their
- 18:01hands that are just trying to make sense of the world and
- 18:03they're trying to understand. Where the information fits in
- 18:05well, Enoch is like the people with a really bad handwriting.
- 18:08Like once you do like hard labor.
- 18:10Like I used to, like, be educated and now I can't even.
- 18:12Like write it, start to twist and get all Yeah.
- 18:17Yes. That's my you guys listen to us.
- 18:19Yeah. Those are man, that's.
- 18:21My people, join us. Listen to Strange O'clock.
- 18:23Come to French radio networks. Yeah, we're totally fishing into
- 18:27your audience here. Sorry about.
- 18:28That it's all good. But likewise guys, just for your
- 18:31listening audience like understand this is called cross
- 18:33pollination. This is something that William
- 18:36Ramsey's actually really good at this too.
- 18:37But it's like we you might not have a huge audience or you
- 18:41might already have one and we try to grow that and also form
- 18:45alliances and find out like okay, I agree with you on wow,
- 18:4898% of everything you said. It's like totally what I already
- 18:52would say. So yeah.
- 18:54Or as Alex Jones would say, sitting across from, I don't
- 18:57know, some giant name like Joe Rogan or somebody who recently
- 18:59was like, we're like, really, like literally, we're we're
- 19:02finishing each other's sentences.
- 19:03We're just, the awakening is here.
- 19:04Everybody's understanding it. It's happening.
- 19:06It's awakening. So we're a little bit.
- 19:09Less like nuclear war now and more like let's fish for souls.
- 19:14Let's talk about Genesis 6 and. Well, we're tired from waking up
- 19:21and working the 4050 hours a week and and from families,
- 19:25right? And trying to you know.
- 19:27Actually walk out what we believe.
- 19:29So I probably would have. And we can't let our wives hear
- 19:32this now that you said our family's made us tired.
- 19:34But I have stain on my bare feet right now and my fingers from
- 19:39staining. Things like staining.
- 19:41The picture, you were in the cabin.
- 19:44Yeah, bro. Get it.
- 19:46Gotta get it, man. Yeah, but yeah, shout out, shout
- 19:49out that, you know. Yeah, yeah.
- 19:52Don't let me cut you off on your train of thought there.
- 19:56Enoch is is really just hyper intelligent.
- 19:59He's like one of these like ultra IQ level genius Wizards
- 20:04and I didn't even know half of the stuff he's talking about.
- 20:07D wave quantum computing, the matrix becoming real, the the
- 20:11Med beds. It's like that's going to be a
- 20:14thing soon and we need to get ready for that.
- 20:16And the matrix is real. Guys like, send these podcasts.
- 20:19Send the link to the show however you're finding this.
- 20:22Text it to people like text it to people in Facebook, like go
- 20:26into the Matrix and bring people out of there.
- 20:27Because we're trying to wake people up to not just the fact
- 20:31that there is corruption, but the fact that your whole life is
- 20:34being directed by AI. And what you said earlier, we're
- 20:36all becoming SRA, we're all becoming MK altered because of
- 20:40technology. Now that's really deep point.
- 20:44Absolutely. And and the church is on all the
- 20:46corners. They're not talking about this,
- 20:48but is resonating deeply with the people who are.
- 20:52Waking up to the reality of hold up, it's not what they told me
- 20:55it was. It's like that moment where Neo
- 20:58from the Matrix movie he he realizes, you know, he takes, he
- 21:02takes the the correct pill, right?
- 21:04And then he's realizing he's coming into adjusting to focus.
- 21:07Like yo all of this was a lie. It's all this fro, this false
- 21:12reality overlay like Dan Duvall talks about, right?
- 21:15And then they start to see things they weren't picking up
- 21:17on before. Some people are seeing patterns
- 21:19now. And you know, I personally, I
- 21:22deal with a DD, right? Like, I deal with this attention
- 21:25deficit disorder and it was like a a hindrance for most of my
- 21:28life, right? But now I'm starting to find
- 21:30out, Well, I'm not saying this is a gift from God, don't get it
- 21:33twisted. But what I am saying is I found
- 21:35a way to pick up on patterns by what they were saying was a
- 21:39weakness. I actually found it could be a
- 21:40strength, right? And so, like, we're finding
- 21:43other people like that that are starting to realize, you know
- 21:45what, these weird little quirks. And these overworked and tired
- 21:48people that that have been running this race and they've
- 21:51been contending for a faith that that they make it imaginary and
- 21:56they make it like. Secret back door.
- 21:59You need a key to get into the deepness of Christianity.
- 22:01You just show up, put money in the hat, and we're going to be
- 22:04like clockwork and talk about the same verses over and over
- 22:06again. And know you can't ask those
- 22:08questions here. For those people who know what
- 22:09I'm talking about, when you go to your buildings and you can't
- 22:13actually get stuff across to them or you, you feel it.
- 22:16You feel I don't belong here. Y'all making it very clear, I do
- 22:19not feel welcome here. The questions that I have and
- 22:21I'm and I was genuine about it, so I know that there's other
- 22:25people out there that are genuine.
- 22:26Like, really, I dealt. Was sleep paralysis or?
- 22:29I'm still dealing with the effects of PTSD or, you know,
- 22:32I've had these dreams or visions or encounters, but yet this
- 22:35supernatural book called the Bible, this ancient papyra,
- 22:40right? The word of God is is the most
- 22:43supernatural book in all of existence.
- 22:45But if you take a supernatural anecdotal experience to somebody
- 22:49who's supposed to be representing the God of all
- 22:52creation. They they like, they shunned you
- 22:55for being like, oh, no, that's too weird.
- 22:56You can't talk about that here. And I'm not saying that's every
- 22:58church. But in my experience, I've
- 23:00gotten a lot of resistance by, quote UN quote, going to these
- 23:03churches over the years. And when I found out I wasn't
- 23:07alone, that's when we started to understand.
- 23:09Well, now we're looking out for, we're looking for more of who's
- 23:12like us. Like if you guys been hurt and
- 23:14who hasn't been hurt and traumatized, even if it's just
- 23:16basic heartbreak, you know what I mean?
- 23:20And so people are out here. God loves these people.
- 23:24God sees these people in a way that has not been correctly
- 23:26demonstrated to us through the Christian leadership.
- 23:30So now we got the Spirit moving through the least likely the
- 23:34least chosen candidates to actually start to demonstrate
- 23:37and bring into clarity and focus where God's heart is.
- 23:40God's heart is to restore everything that that's been done
- 23:44wrong to you. If you have one.
- 23:46One little cell. Right of your body that's being
- 23:50captive by the enemy. We want that back.
- 23:52We want everything back God intended for us.
- 23:55And that's the mentality that's brewing because that's the times
- 23:57we live in. Now you talked about like
- 23:58nuclear war and you talked about we're living in like these end
- 24:01times, right? Well, take heed.
- 24:04Let no man deceive you. It is our responsibility.
- 24:08It's a commandment that we actually are seeking God.
- 24:12We're we're searching him out first and letting him add the
- 24:15stuff on to us along the way. And you know what?
- 24:17Don't be afraid for it to look messy.
- 24:19And I have. I have people trying to put
- 24:21knives in my back and trying to judge me and put words in my
- 24:23mouth. I deal with all kinds of
- 24:24different backlash and I look at people and and I and the reason
- 24:28I can't attack them back is because God is in me.
- 24:30Look, helping me to see them the way he sees them.
- 24:33Like bro, they're just as hurt and wounded as you are.
- 24:36You know, be meek and be humble in this situation.
- 24:38Don't you know, be angry and sin not right.
- 24:41So we need to start seeing other people for the state that
- 24:45they're in, the way that God sees them.
- 24:47As in I want that person redeemed.
- 24:49I created that person with image and value and they have unique
- 24:53set of circumstances and I have a position for them to be to
- 24:56present this gifting. I've I've knitted together with
- 24:59them for their their calling on their life.
- 25:02And so a lot of this is the tug of war that's taking place.
- 25:04But. We need to wrestle our flesh
- 25:07down and not let our flesh get in the way and prefer each
- 25:10other. I mean, I based my podcast
- 25:11around on like, trying. You know, it's been more recent
- 25:15than not. Other people are asking me to
- 25:16share my testimony, but for years I've based everything I'm
- 25:19doing on. I want to the your story.
- 25:21Like, I want to lift you up. What are you doing?
- 25:23Right. Let's capture that.
- 25:24And just trying to show that love, trying to lead in that way
- 25:27because everybody else was like kind of clicky and weird and you
- 25:30know what I mean? I'm like, Nah, let's let's
- 25:32follow God and let him decide. Because he's going to decide at
- 25:35the end of the day what lasts and what doesn't last.
- 25:38Well we met through I mean not met but we both know the Canary
- 25:42Cry the Bird boys as Johnny McNabb calls them.
- 25:45I mean that whole concept we were talking about maybe we can
- 25:47hijack their the Canary cry meet up thing and we've got a a place
- 25:53that I am in right now actually that not just this back you know
- 25:58mob closet it which I. Need to Well, this door was
- 26:04built by a really good Carpenter and great Christian man.
- 26:11I won't get into it anyway. We have the mutual understanding
- 26:15of, like, there's the clique of Canary Cry, but they do a really
- 26:18good job. They're a really cool clique.
- 26:21To get back to high school. It's like, man, I wish I could
- 26:23be in their tables and sometimes, you know, you go
- 26:25there, but then it's like, there's so many.
- 26:27Like in high school I used to meet just lost kids everywhere
- 26:32with like cutting their wrists and anorexia and whatever and
- 26:38and I just felt the the Holy Spirit because I met the Lord at
- 26:41age 16. It was around like 911 before
- 26:44nine 11/20/2001. And I just felt God like pulling
- 26:49me towards like I was busy all the time because I was having
- 26:52all these needy people coming and be like, but also like I
- 26:56have the answer. It was amazing and and here we
- 27:00are now I've done international missionary work, but now I don't
- 27:04care where I am. It's like give me a microphone
- 27:06and an Internet connection. Like we can reach people and
- 27:09here I am talking to you. We can use these these networks
- 27:13of different believers and different people, but also go
- 27:16out into the French, into the Bigfoot, into for what I'm
- 27:19doing, I mean into the new age. I've got people.
- 27:22I've got a hard drive full of James Renk's podcast on a hard
- 27:26drive. I just met him in person.
- 27:27We got to pray together and then I agree to do the little
- 27:30meditation with them too. And I'm.
- 27:32I'm kind of like God is this okay.
- 27:35It's all about winning souls people.
- 27:37It's not about like, my own good doctrine is does God approve of
- 27:41everything I do. It's like, serve God, win souls,
- 27:45and he'll take care of all your needs.
- 27:46Like my wife and I, we just started a Business Today.
- 27:49Like, literally, we just started a new project and we're like, Oh
- 27:53my gosh, if this is successful, we might do another thing and
- 27:55another like God will start opening your spectrum.
- 28:00But as far as, like what your, your trajectory needs to be,
- 28:05it's about winning souls, training disciples.
- 28:07And you said something about having accountability, about
- 28:10having like being in authority, like having people that are kind
- 28:13of like around you that can kind of tune into your life.
- 28:17Can you talk about that for a second or whatever else you're
- 28:19about to say? But could you mention that?
- 28:23Because I think that's kind of what we're doing here right now.
- 28:25It's like we're we're helping each other be more accountable,
- 28:28like be more effective in serving God.
- 28:32Yeah, so I mean the Eclaicia, right?
- 28:34It's it's this governing body that's the church, it's not a
- 28:37social club, right. And I was having this
- 28:40conversation with a brother. I'm going to give a shout out to
- 28:42Eric cuz I know he's going to listen to this.
- 28:44But he was down at the Deliverance ministry.
- 28:47That just happened the other week and we talked like twice on
- 28:49the phone while he was down there and.
- 28:52You know, we were just kind of talking about the condition of
- 28:54the church and just kind of challenging like the idea that
- 28:57some people want to Lord and rule over you because of, you
- 29:00know what I mean? They want to challenge stuff.
- 29:03They want to speak into your life in ways that are that are
- 29:07not godly. So we're going to know in the
- 29:09spirit when it's godly, right? So when you have somebody that
- 29:13is anointed if you, if you submit yourself to to a
- 29:17ministry, right. First of all, if anybody tells
- 29:20you you need to submit to this ministry, that there's a red
- 29:24flag there. If anybody tells you that if you
- 29:26do not join and show up on this scheduled, you know, agenda for
- 29:30this ministry and they they try to make it seem like you're
- 29:33you've gone rogue, there's a major red flag there, right.
- 29:36So a real man of God, in my opinion, the way that that's
- 29:38going to work and having this accountability, that's with your
- 29:42your household, your brethren. Right.
- 29:44Like we're accountable to be pleasant, to dwell in unity with
- 29:47each other. We're not accountable to be like
- 29:49this. Perfect.
- 29:50You can't ever drop the ball like, you know, this this over
- 29:54crazy religious spirit. No, no, that's not what we're
- 29:57talking about. We're talking about this kind of
- 29:58accountability where it's like people meet you where you're at,
- 30:01and when a real man of God is speaking into your life is going
- 30:04to. God is already going to be
- 30:06showing you because he's already going to be whispering things to
- 30:08you in your life. You're going to either have a
- 30:10dream or you know things. Words are jumping off the page
- 30:13when you're studying Ephesians or whatever.
- 30:14And then a man of God comes alongside you and says, bro, I
- 30:17see you limping. God is calling you to do this,
- 30:19so it's always going to come through.
- 30:21Just like the word says, what comes from heaven first, what
- 30:24comes from God from above is first pure.
- 30:27It's authentic, it's genuine, it's powerful, it's light.
- 30:30So we need to be able to have that kind of discernment to
- 30:33distinguish. Who should we be submitting
- 30:36ourselves to? In submission to a man of God is
- 30:39a good thing. It doesn't mean forever.
- 30:41You're submitted to this man and you have to every time they come
- 30:44around. No, it just means, like, I can
- 30:46count on you and hold you accountable to answer this call.
- 30:49Not like when I'm calling, but like to get back to me, to to
- 30:53walk down this road with me. Like there's people that are in
- 30:56the body of Christ that have a calling some of us to be.
- 31:00Pastors, Some of us to deliver the word.
- 31:02Some of us to be shepherd, some of us to be in the gift of
- 31:06prophecy or the office of prophecy.
- 31:08Some of us to just be a servant. And we need to stop this whole
- 31:11one man on the stage standing up in front of everybody.
- 31:14Stand up, sit down, do this. Don't ask that.
- 31:16That model doesn't work. So that's what I mean when I say
- 31:19like a ministry like me and you are brethren, bro.
- 31:22Like, you know, God has things that he's done in your life that
- 31:25I don't know anything about. So my humility is going to be
- 31:29when we're talking on the phone just like the other week and I'm
- 31:31like, bro, tell me about this. Like, help me understand this.
- 31:33That's a way that we are humbly submitting to each other.
- 31:36It's not like you have this title and Rodney's like, Oh my
- 31:38gosh, Michael Basham's here. I I can't ask any questions.
- 31:41I can't content him. There can't be a healthy debate
- 31:43or dialogue. No, all that's acceptable in my
- 31:46opinion, but it. But it's like having that
- 31:48understanding when you're identifying somebody else's
- 31:50gift, their gift, maybe they're a shepherd and you got to trust
- 31:54that person's word for it, and especially if they have a track
- 31:57record. Right.
- 31:58Like if they have a track record year after year, if you know
- 32:00somebody who operates in the gift of prophecy and they're
- 32:03correct on what they have talked about in the past, stop doubting
- 32:06them in the future because the Bible says do not despise the
- 32:08prophets. If you trust in the prophets,
- 32:11you'll you'll prosper, right? So it's like we just need to
- 32:13start looking at stuff through the words filter and less
- 32:16through these seminary filters or these, what do you call this
- 32:20like denominational preference filters, right.
- 32:22We just need to start allowing God to steer us and everything
- 32:26that we're doing. And just chill.
- 32:28Sometimes it's cool just to fall back and chill and be like, you
- 32:30know what, God, I don't know exactly where I'm supposed to be
- 32:32and what's going on. And talk to God like you.
- 32:35Like I would just say that to you.
- 32:36I've talked to God like that. Like, God.
- 32:38I'm struggling with this. I don't know how I feel about
- 32:39this. God, I think you're calling me
- 32:41here. I don't want to go there.
- 32:42I don't want to do this. It's okay to contend.
- 32:44Look at Jesus, he says when he goes to the garden and he bleeds
- 32:50through his sweat pores right before the crucifixion.
- 32:54He. It's pretty clear when you look
- 32:56at what he's saying in the word there.
- 32:59He's like, if this cup can pass from me, right?
- 33:01He's like, I don't really want to do this, but not my will.
- 33:05Your will be done. So Yahweh and heaven and Yahweh
- 33:07and Earth are in agreement because the the fleshly vessel
- 33:10that the Messiah is in did not want to go through what it went
- 33:14through. So sometimes you're going to
- 33:16need to take one or two brothers with you, just like Jesus did
- 33:19when he went up there and it it says he was, he was anguished.
- 33:23He was heavily burdened. He was weeping, right?
- 33:26And he brings 2 cats with him and the other guys are sleeping.
- 33:28He goes back and he's like, can you not even stay up and pray?
- 33:31So that sometimes is going to be a man of God in your life when
- 33:34somebody's going through a trial tribulation and they're calling
- 33:38you to walk with them and cry with them or laugh with them.
- 33:41So like, this is how I view it through what God's showing me
- 33:44that we should, we should see the Eclaicia look like as we're
- 33:47being established and positioned as this government, this
- 33:50representative, this, this. Counsel of what God should look
- 33:54like here on earth. Enough of this like religious
- 33:57textbook stuff. We just need to actually start
- 33:59and and there's a time and a place for that.
- 34:01I'm not saying we eliminate it completely because I I feel like
- 34:03people when they hear me talk, they're like, man, you're just
- 34:05wild blowing in the wind, bro. You just want to rip up every
- 34:08no. It's like the balance is so out
- 34:10of whack. We have so many textbook nerds,
- 34:13but we don't have people that are willing to go out there and
- 34:15cry with you and actually love you.
- 34:17They don't. They don't put the love in in.
- 34:21The way that they're walking, right, They don't have beautiful
- 34:23feet. So we need to create that
- 34:26balance. And I think it's our job to do
- 34:27that because you have an audience.
- 34:28I have an audience. We're born for such a time as
- 34:31this. We got to honor God first before
- 34:33we're honoring the fringe topics.
- 34:34Yes, I got a bunch of cool stuff I could talk about that Super
- 34:37fringe is dope, right? Regional.
- 34:40It's fun. It's the fireworks.
- 34:43And and there's a time and a place for that.
- 34:45Like that's that's important, but it's like what comes first?
- 34:49You know what I mean? So I feel like through the
- 34:51podcast dealing with the the weird and the fringe stuff, it's
- 34:54like it's like the correct bait when you're fishing, when you're
- 34:57a fisherman. I mean, you know, I guess it's
- 35:03like you're able to, you know, be like the apostle Paul was
- 35:07aware of who he was talking with when he went to, I think it was
- 35:10the Parthenon. And he's seen all the statues of
- 35:13the Greeks, right. So he's culturally aware of all
- 35:15these gods that the people were worshipping of the day and age
- 35:18that he was in. And then he says to him, listen,
- 35:20I'm making a declaration unto you to this day, this statue to
- 35:24the unknown God, I'm here on his behalf to make declaration to
- 35:26you. Right.
- 35:27So it's like we need to be able to come into our culture.
- 35:29So if we're talking about realm, you know, ancient iCloud realm
- 35:33technology from the anti Delivian times, that could
- 35:35possibly be activated in today's day and age, right?
- 35:38If we're talking about this stuff, it's because there's
- 35:40people out there that live in that space and they haven't
- 35:43heard the gospel. And you may be able to connect
- 35:45some dots for him, just like the Apostle Paul did when he rolled
- 35:48up in on the Greeks and was like.
- 35:49You guys, I see your statues. I see what you guys are doing
- 35:52right? I perceive your religious.
- 35:54I perceive you guys know something.
- 35:57So man, sorry, I don't even know if I'm on topic or off topic.
- 36:01I feel like I've been rambling. So help me understand if I
- 36:04answered even whatever your question was.
- 36:08Well, I already forgot it and I'm thinking about what what do
- 36:14you, where do you lead people? Like obviously your heart is for
- 36:16souls and churches. You told me like and we had a
- 36:19great, you know, behind the scenes, bro, talk about like
- 36:23what are we going to do? Like we've got work and we've
- 36:26got bullshit, pain and burning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're sort of
- 36:31gone. But then America's falling down
- 36:33and we've got family, we've got kids got.
- 36:37But then there's this podcast thing and of course we pray for,
- 36:41you know, just for you guys to have all the infrastructure that
- 36:44you need to keep the millennial mustard seed going, cuz this is
- 36:47a huge operation. I mean, telling me it's like the
- 36:49mustard seed, it's a prophecy. It's like right there and the
- 36:53Millennium. And I think I forgot to put two
- 36:56ends in the in the title. I'm sorry, I just said I knew
- 36:59how to spell millennial and it's two ends, right?
- 37:03Millennium is MILLENNIAL, right? So the way that I spell it is
- 37:11MILLENNIAL mustard seed. Millennial, Yeah, like the
- 37:17millennial rain, right. Or like, that's what people
- 37:19Totally. I was even telling you like,
- 37:21yeah, I know how to spell Bullennial Okay and I.
- 37:23Well, there's a couple ways to spell it and I get this all the
- 37:25time and people are always like, oh, cool, right?
- 37:28Like Okay. Well, Okay.
- 37:30Well, all right. Before I go forward, what is the
- 37:33Millennium in your view? Why would you talk about the,
- 37:35are you talking about millennials?
- 37:36Like, are you born after 1983 or is it about the reign of Jesus?
- 37:43The way it started I had a podcast called Not of this
- 37:47World. Horrific audio quality.
- 37:50Not that it's terribly that much better on the Mustard Seed,
- 37:53right? But it was my my foot in the
- 37:55door to start being like what's going on through my thought
- 37:59process. I'm going to present that and.
- 38:01I start speaking what I'm thinking out and dealing with
- 38:03some of this, taking a step of faith.
- 38:05But like I said, I'm a millennial, I'm growing up
- 38:10technology, supercomputers in the pockets of everybody that of
- 38:13my generation, right? So we have the older generation
- 38:15that are like really? Going catfishing over the
- 38:18weekend. They got cigars and beer and
- 38:20they're, you know, raw. They're the good old boys or
- 38:22whatever. You're a city slicker, right?
- 38:24Hanging out on Passyunk Ave. trying to debate on what
- 38:26cheesesteak to get in Philly, right?
- 38:28You have this, this this older generation in the way that they
- 38:31would do things. And then you have my generation
- 38:33where it's like we're right on the cusp of hanging out with the
- 38:36older generation being influenced by them.
- 38:38But now we got these super computers in our pockets.
- 38:43And so that's like this shift. So I think the Millennial
- 38:47generate, you have two of them. Well, I have a TikTok phone, so
- 38:52you know I never put TikTok on your end.
- 38:54I just love my strain of thought.
- 38:56I don't even know what's going on TikTok.
- 38:57I need to get on TikTok and just start watching videos on Zone
- 38:59out to not get on TikTok. You'll lose thousands of hours
- 39:02of. Your life.
- 39:03I don't even have it. Good.
- 39:06Don't make fun of me for that. I did have it.
- 39:07I deleted it. Blame Joe Rogan in in details
- 39:11about TikTok that he read on the air that.
- 39:13Somebody sent me and I listened to.
- 39:14That caused me to delete it. Oh good.
- 39:16No, no, don't do, don't do it guys.
- 39:17I mean I'm doing it cuz I I go, but I'll talk about that later.
- 39:20But yeah, continue on your train of thought.
- 39:22This is really good. Yeah.
- 39:23So the millennial generation, I think is a super important
- 39:26generation. And we were really looked down
- 39:28upon because it's like, oh, these guys are sissies, right?
- 39:32They didn't get it together. It's like the start of like what
- 39:35the world was saying, this whiny generation, you know, in a lot
- 39:37of ways they're right. We're not half the men.
- 39:39That the old style men used to be because I had hands a
- 39:41leather, they were working hard, they look you right in their
- 39:43eyes. They didn't have too many words.
- 39:45They had a lot of action. But I feel like each generation
- 39:49failed us. But when it got to our
- 39:51generation, we were failing the next generation because of this
- 39:54now, right? So it's this distraction, it's
- 39:58technology, it's the frequency, the airwaves.
- 40:01So I started to see the millennial generation as being
- 40:03like, possibly right on the cusp.
- 40:08Where something really good can come out of this, or something
- 40:10really bad can come out of this. And the way that we trickle
- 40:13things down, because even though I'm younger, I still need to be
- 40:17looking out and discipline the younger dudes the same way as
- 40:20the dudes who are 40s and 50s. Should be doing that for me,
- 40:23right? So but I just if there's
- 40:26something so significant about it.
- 40:27So God gave me that name. I laughed.
- 40:30I didn't want to use it. I was aware of all these super
- 40:33cool podcast names out there. You know, I'm not going to
- 40:37rename other podcasts, but you guys understand, right?
- 40:40Dog Man Rips Village podcast, right?
- 40:42I mean, you have like all these cool crypted podcasts, Alien
- 40:45podcasts, and I'm like, I'm the Millennial Mustard seed, so I
- 40:49had no, like, idea of the Millennium.
- 40:51I didn't know a post trip, Pretrib, any of that stuff.
- 40:54Well, I didn't get into any of that at the time.
- 40:56I still don't even know exactly where I stand.
- 40:58I mean, I'm trying to be prepared on a daytoday basis
- 41:01because my personal harpot cell or rapture could be if I die
- 41:04next week, if I die next week and and go out that way, that's
- 41:07when I'm going to be have some of the body present with the
- 41:09Lord, so I still don't get into having me.
- 41:12On your show and I'll I'll break down the millennia anytime and
- 41:15I'll talk about the children of God cult that taught me all
- 41:18about it. I mean, oh man, I got questions
- 41:20for you. I want to start firing some
- 41:22questions at you here soon. But but in a nutshell, I didn't.
- 41:25There was no, like, subliminal messaging or like this or that
- 41:29about the name of the podcast. God gave me the Millennial
- 41:32Mustard seed. I argued for like a month or
- 41:34two. I was, I wanted to keep not of
- 41:36this world, but I wanted to reinvent it and shift away from
- 41:38the way that that first season had looked.
- 41:41You know, doing that little podcast had looked.
- 41:44And it was just this feeling of like, Nope, don't change it.
- 41:47And I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to be obedient
- 41:49and go with it. I'm going to enter into this
- 41:50fringe space through, you know, Christian topics and through my
- 41:54faith journey with a name called Millennial Mustard Seed.
- 41:57And now, like people are saying it's perfect.
- 42:00It fits in, is unique. It's like there's something
- 42:03about it and and I just laugh now cuz I'm like, man, I've
- 42:06wrestled God so hard on being like I don't want to call it
- 42:08that. This is corny, this is, you know
- 42:10what I mean? Like I was already like people
- 42:12don't really like me or want to listen to me.
- 42:14And then now I got this weird podcast name.
- 42:17And so it was a personal. You don't give up, brother.
- 42:21That's the main key. Well, and then the whole thing
- 42:23that deceeds, right, starts small and you got to water it,
- 42:27and it takes time and it's plunged down in the darkness.
- 42:31So like, a lot of that stuff was resonating with me.
- 42:34I'm a millennial. I feel like this seed, I'm
- 42:36smaller than significant. I'm shoved down in darkness, in
- 42:39the dirt. But then God's word, God gets
- 42:42this praise and glory because he's causing a growth.
- 42:44Other people are coming along. They're watering, right?
- 42:47And they're planting other seeds, but God is getting
- 42:49worshipped. So that was, that was the model.
- 42:52That's why I named it what I did.
- 42:56I mean is it becoming something else?
- 42:57I don't know. I would ask other people that to
- 42:59me it still means the same thing.
- 43:00But if God has a multi layer or meaning to to the name of, I
- 43:04guess it is what it is, you know.
- 43:07I mean, I think just to let you take a breath there, pretty
- 43:12amazing stuff. My show on a whim, Johnny
- 43:17McMahon calls me. He's like.
- 43:18All right, we'll get you on the fringe Reader Network.
- 43:21What what's your show name? And I'm like Spirit Wars.
- 43:26I mean, it was literally, OK, all right, Spirit Wars.
- 43:29And I have no idea what's going on.
- 43:30I've never done a podcast. I was a Facebook YouTuber
- 43:35hosting, crap posting, and I didn't know what podcasts really
- 43:39were. And I need to.
- 43:40This is a good thing that we're talking about this because a lot
- 43:43of people still don't know what podcasts are what's.
- 43:46Well, where's your 10s of thousands of listeners in your
- 43:49millions of comments? Well, social media on your
- 43:52little, crappy little Android phones, They're making you feel
- 43:56like you're famous and then they'll immediately delete you
- 43:59once you. I had 17,000 subscribers on
- 44:01YouTube. I mean, that's a lot for
- 44:02somebody that didn't. Nobody knew.
- 44:05And then, boom, gone. Millions of views, gone.
- 44:08How many hundreds of thousands of comments, how many thousands
- 44:11of hours I spent building that Channel?
- 44:13And and you realize, like, Oh my gosh, like this is evil.
- 44:17But whereas Spreaker or I don't know what podcast platform
- 44:21you're using, again, I forget popping or Spotify for
- 44:24podcasters. Yeah.
- 44:27Oh, it was Anchor. Yeah, it was Anchor.
- 44:29And then they changed it. I don't know.
- 44:31It's they changed anchor to Spotify.
- 44:33Oh, I didn't know that. I think Spotify bought bought
- 44:35anchor or something, yeah. Oh, OK, that makes sense cuz
- 44:39Anchor. I don't.
- 44:41I haven't heard anything from Anchor in a long time.
- 44:43But that's actually really good because I heard they're
- 44:45introducing video. So like, we're recording this
- 44:49live on Spirit Force, the podcast, and I'll put it on
- 44:53Fringe. But like video wise, I don't
- 44:56know what to do. I mean, I don't have time to
- 44:58edit out every time I say that vaccines are killing people and
- 45:01there are such things as stolen elections.
- 45:03Boom, you're gone. Go.
- 45:04It's like, well, I can't censor that.
- 45:08Everybody's talking about that. And nobody wants to go to
- 45:13Odyssey or Rumble or anything like that, so I don't really
- 45:15have to. But anyway, yeah, so sorry.
- 45:19I'm getting this. We we were talking, so.
- 45:21So let me let me turn the tables here a little bit and start
- 45:24firing some questions at you. So we were talking on the phone
- 45:27the other week, right? And I I like, I knew a little
- 45:30bit about you. Like obviously, you know, I've
- 45:33listened to some of your podcasts and stuff like that.
- 45:35I knew who you were. But then you're telling me about
- 45:38kind of the old school realm, right?
- 45:42That that years and years ago you're collaborating with
- 45:45people. You're kind of like watching the
- 45:47development of certain things. I I forget what we were wording
- 45:50it but it was something along the lines where I'm like, bro, I
- 45:53need to on air. Yeah.
- 45:55I need to ask you on air, give us the, the rundown of how some
- 46:00of this stuff came together. Like, you know, you're you're
- 46:03really strangely, in a great way connected and aware of certain
- 46:06things that are like kind of like the birth of some of these
- 46:09shows, like my show, like I came just a couple years ago, but
- 46:13you're aware of stuff that's been going on for like a while.
- 46:15So I mean, hopefully, you know what I'm talking about, right?
- 46:19Remember that one conversation? Yeah, like, well, we mentioned
- 46:21Canary Cry, so, all right, so Canary Cry radio, if anybody
- 46:24knows, that's a big show now. But you have to understand like
- 46:28Canary Cry news talk too. Now there's Canary Cry news
- 46:32talk, but there was Canary Cry radio, which you're talking
- 46:34about the actual where they were interviewing all the LRLA
- 46:38Marzouli's and the that Hamps and well, take me on the
- 46:43journey, man, tell us about it. All right, I'll I'm not going to
- 46:47talk for two hours. I mean, I've got maybe like 20
- 46:49minutes. And I literally, this Chinese
- 46:51food is for dad and wife and stuff.
- 46:53And I literally thought on my head before doing this show, I
- 46:55was like, should I cancel or reschedule?
- 46:57And then I thought. No, this is important for the
- 46:59whole human race and the destiny of the church like space-time
- 47:04continuum. And before Canary Cry, there was
- 47:10future quake. And so timeline wise, timeline
- 47:14is very important. So if you read the Bible, God is
- 47:16always reminding you what he did, you know, in the past.
- 47:20And so we're not just about like the latest tweet or like, like
- 47:24the latest notification like Oh my gosh, what's happening?
- 47:27It's. OK what happened 10 years ago,
- 47:2920 years ago, 100 years ago, 1000 years ago.
- 47:32And that's what we're dealing with today is the days of Noah
- 47:34anyway, so should have that time arc.
- 47:38But as far as the Internet goes, I mean the Internet is pretty
- 47:40new. So 1990s, we got a OL, you know,
- 47:45And then podcast came out in the early 2000s.
- 47:48So there was a show called Future Quake.
- 47:50It was an actual radio show in Tennessee, I believe Doctor
- 47:53Future and Tom Bionic. And they began to interview
- 47:57people like. LA Marzouli and Steve Quayle and
- 48:00Ron Paul. Rand Paul.
- 48:02Ron Paul. Ron Paul.
- 48:03Like the early before Trump guys, like way before Trump.
- 48:07This was the movement and the way I found out about it was
- 48:11through, well, I knew about Alex Jones.
- 48:14But then he interviewed some of these links, like through Steve
- 48:17Quayle and. Future Quake is the core
- 48:22movement of the fringe Christian movement.
- 48:24It's like where everything began and I don't know what Future
- 48:27Quake is doing. They they ended in 2012, so
- 48:302012, Boom, Canary Cry starts, Canary Cry Radio was the
- 48:34continuation of Future Quake. And you can still go to
- 48:36futurequake.com and listen to just look through the list.
- 48:39You'll be like, Oh my gosh, they had like everybody on here.
- 48:43And those shows are really good because it was like the very
- 48:46beginning, like Derek Gilbert. When he just when he was still
- 48:49working in sales or something and he has like a camcorder and
- 48:53he's recording his. Podcast with the microphone from
- 48:56the Cam like an oldfashioned, like this is where it all began.
- 48:59It was a very ragtag thing, and the main gist of it was Okay.
- 49:06The Christians seem to be the leading analyzers of the UFO
- 49:11alien abduction phenomena, and they they're connecting it with
- 49:15the Book of Enoch because. The Book of Enoch was
- 49:17discovered, I don't know, in the 60s, but nobody really knew
- 49:21about it until the Internet got going.
- 49:22And then the Internet helped people kind of discover this.
- 49:26And then you had old names like David Flynn and then Peter
- 49:29Goodgame sort of writing books. And there were the very early
- 49:34small, tiny conferences. But Michael Heiser came in in
- 49:39the early 2000s as well. He was on coast to coast.
- 49:43He brought in this whole divine counsel and he was like the only
- 49:45PhD that would talk to anybody. So the.
- 49:48Canary Cry. People call him Gandalf because
- 49:50he'll, like, go between the like, the reputable Bible
- 49:54scholars and theologians and then talk to like you or me or
- 49:58anybody. The hobbits doing the podcast,
- 49:59yeah. I mean, that's how I feel, Yeah.
- 50:03We want second dinners, yeah. We're whole bits, yeah?
- 50:07Yeah, well, and then little podcasters that are just like
- 50:09whatever and we'll talk about, but then you know you can get
- 50:11really big if you. The key is keep going and I
- 50:15would adjure you as well. Don't give up because of like,
- 50:17well, life took me this way or that way.
- 50:19I mean, I've had absolute trauma in my life.
- 50:22And I then I realized like, it's not because I went the wrong
- 50:26way, it's because I'm going the right way.
- 50:28And now they're coming after me, you know.
- 50:31And when you're doing the right thing, then you get persecuted
- 50:34if you're not doing anything. And there's no.
- 50:37Persecution of your life? Then what are you even doing?
- 50:40But a lot of us have been banned.
- 50:42A lot of our YouTube channels have been deleted.
- 50:45A lot of our lives have been destroyed.
- 50:47Like, literally. And lawsuits.
- 50:50I mean, Owen Schroyer's going to prison, maybe for a year pretty
- 50:54soon. One of the main guys from
- 50:56Infowars, like just for being at January 6th, like just the
- 50:59absolute injustice of what's happening for people that are
- 51:03telling the truth. We're not focused on elections
- 51:05all the time. That's a little maybe like a 2%
- 51:08issue for me, for most of us. But the idea of persecution is
- 51:15is real. We need to be aware of that.
- 51:16So I mean this, this is not a game like when you're listening
- 51:19to us. We're we're sacrificing precious
- 51:22time with our children, our families.
- 51:24We're working all day. We're tired.
- 51:26But it's like this burning thing in your soul, brother.
- 51:29What is it that and maybe comment on what I just said but
- 51:33like I want to hear what what inspires you because this is.
- 51:36It's a war. You know, they're coming after
- 51:38our families. That's it could be nuclear war
- 51:40soon it could be America's going to be judged, could be that
- 51:46we're going to have to band together.
- 51:49I wouldn't. If the Internet goes down, boom,
- 51:51I mean, hopefully we'll find each other and start, you know,
- 51:53Christian bases of survival or something.
- 51:59But as we have these podcasts, I mean, what is it that drives
- 52:02you? And and just in the next 10
- 52:05minutes, because I'm going to run.
- 52:06I got it, man. I got family too, you know?
- 52:10You too. So I'll try to answer that to
- 52:13the best of my ability and then I'm just going to throw a couple
- 52:16things out there for people to get excited about.
- 52:19Another collaboration where we're going to get together in
- 52:21the near future. Awesome.
- 52:23So the driving thing for me is like just one more, right?
- 52:28So the Bible is the only book that showed me how many years I
- 52:32wasted sitting in the dark, right?
- 52:37So if you can get somebody to to want to read the word again and
- 52:40ultimately through that hoping they develop a relationship with
- 52:45Jesus, right, they actually develop a relationship with with
- 52:48the God of creation and just one more, right?
- 52:52And then I do not like being deceived.
- 52:55I do not like being told one thing and it's not legit or
- 52:58like, you know, people messing with me.
- 52:59So I feel the tugging. You know, I I consider myself to
- 53:03an extent, to be like a watchman on the wall.
- 53:06So as God is helping me to become more aware of certain
- 53:09things, I'm like, I'm not just going to go to sleep on that,
- 53:12you know what I mean? So I don't get on there like
- 53:14Alex Jones does and start saying rup jillions are taking over
- 53:16everywhere. They're, you know, they're
- 53:18underneath the the base under here.
- 53:20Like, I'm not doing that. Like what I'm doing is dealing
- 53:23with this spiritual stuff, the, you know, trying to get people
- 53:26to understand it's okay to deal with that trauma.
- 53:29It's okay to come to the Lord. Like, I'm sorry for the people
- 53:32who misrepresented the God that I worship and serve.
- 53:35You know what I mean? I'm sorry for those false ones
- 53:37that went out and put a bad flavor for this.
- 53:39But but God can heal it. And he just might want to use me
- 53:43or something I say He might want to.
- 53:45There might be something that he he causes me to say.
- 53:49And through that ripple effect, it can, it can help you.
- 53:51So one of the driving forces is I just keep building my
- 53:56relationship with God, and God keeps tugging me to go certain
- 53:59directions and to be bold, right?
- 54:03Like, why are you going to hide out on that?
- 54:05Like, God is challenging me. Like, don't you worship me?
- 54:09Do you? You know, I'm the creator of all
- 54:11this. You're going to go through
- 54:13persecution. Dude, you went, you know, it's
- 54:15just the way it is. Life is not always going to be
- 54:17easy. You're going to go through it,
- 54:19but go through it where you're, you know, expelling the
- 54:24darkness, exposing the darkness, right.
- 54:27Taking away the power that they had over you personally and
- 54:33becoming aware of the word of truth, but also helping other
- 54:38people to do that as well and through unique ways.
- 54:40So that keeps driving me for because there's so many times
- 54:43where I want to walk away from this.
- 54:45There's so many times where I wanted to just cancel the show
- 54:47because I'm like, man, there's stuff coming at me.
- 54:49I'm being attacked, you know what I mean?
- 54:50There's spiritual things. There's there's people that that
- 54:54that are coming against me and like, I deal with stuff like
- 54:56that. And then I have this heart and
- 54:57desire to to help and to minister other people and meet
- 55:01other needs. And I'm barely meeting my own.
- 55:03So I'm like, most of the time I'm like, I don't know how this
- 55:05is going to go out, but God, God is using people to answer and
- 55:08come through at the last minute. And this is my new these are
- 55:11small things. And, you know, I I want to be in
- 55:17what God's vision is so I don't perish.
- 55:19So I want to be a partaker and what he's calling me to do.
- 55:22So a lot of the times that the essence for one more, like we're
- 55:26seeking one more person. Well, that's God's heart.
- 55:28So if we're getting closer to God's heart, he's going to keep
- 55:30us in what's getting people closer to him and it might
- 55:33shift. Podcast may not be the coolest
- 55:35thing or the best way to get this information out there.
- 55:38Like you said, we might need to start these little communities
- 55:40at some point in time because who knows what could happen.
- 55:44And then all of a sudden you're like, you know this dude in the
- 55:46community who people know that you can, they can go and you can
- 55:49pray, right. And you can get breakthrough and
- 55:51that's a solid man of God there. You know what I mean?
- 55:53Who knows that might be Our Calling.
- 55:55All this may be boot camp for that.
- 55:57I don't know. But whatever happens, I want to
- 56:00keep following God because we're going to leave this earth.
- 56:03This temporary body is going is going to fall and fail at some
- 56:06point in time. Already had a close enough
- 56:08experience with that not to keep that on the back burner at all
- 56:11times, realizing, yo, there's much more going on here.
- 56:16So why not serve the God of light?
- 56:18Why not serve the God of truth? Why not?
- 56:20Like, if if I'm wrong and and all of this is wrong, like I
- 56:26still lived a better life than somebody who was lawless and
- 56:28didn't want to honor God. But if I'm right, which I
- 56:32believe I am, if I'm right, and God is real and he is who he
- 56:36says he is, you got a lot to lose.
- 56:38And that's for a listener out there, somebody who's who's
- 56:40dealing with that. But let me just drop a couple
- 56:42things that hopefully because this is a more intimate episode,
- 56:45we just were winging it like letting the spirit lead.
- 56:47Don't tell them, but I want to, I just want to drop a couple
- 56:52things for like next time for us to talk about.
- 56:54Right. So it's it's fringy.
- 56:57But that's the the point is this may get somebody to come back
- 57:02and there might be something somebody else says on your show,
- 57:05my show or somebody in between that helps this person along.
- 57:09But the the fallen heavenly host, right?
- 57:12These lowercase G gods, I have some thoughts about them being
- 57:17okay with the corporate church gathering on Wednesdays and
- 57:21Sundays. I'm just going to throw that out
- 57:23there. Yeah, we don't have time to dig
- 57:27into it, but it gets really weird, right?
- 57:28And so I'm going to throw this one out there.
- 57:30The frequency of flax linen. The frequency of wool.
- 57:35Organic material, Right. And this is the gems for the
- 57:39people who stuck along to the end of the episode, because most
- 57:41people would be cutting out 75% of the way through.
- 57:44Oh, they're winding. Wait, is this going to be a show
- 57:45that you're going to do pretty soon or this is what you've?
- 57:48Already done. Well, this is stuff I've talked
- 57:51off air about, talked on air about, and then this is
- 57:54something I want to dive into with you and and Peach down the
- 57:57road like let's designate a couple topics out there and I
- 58:00want to designate. So this is just kind of like a
- 58:03cliffhanger for the audience. Like, hey, you guys, be on the
- 58:05lookout, be checking out what they're doing, what I'm doing,
- 58:07because this is going to show up sooner or later.
- 58:09The frequency of flax linen, it's an organic material.
- 58:12Leviticus 19 talks about not mixing these two together.
- 58:15So when I discovered in 2020 this verse and I started asking
- 58:20pastors about it, they were saying, oh, that's for God to
- 58:22distinguish the Israelites, to set them apart.
- 58:24And I'm going, yes, But it always has multiple layers and
- 58:27purposes. It's it's deeper than that.
- 58:29Yes. And and yes, so much more,
- 58:31right? Well, I found a secular guy who
- 58:33talks about the frequency of these organic materials,
- 58:35flaxlining, putting a 5000 frequency output out, right, and
- 58:40wool putting 5000 frequency output out.
- 58:44So when you put these two together, they cancel each other
- 58:46out. Well, the skin is the largest
- 58:48organ on the human body. So healthy human has like 100 to
- 58:51115 frequency output on the surface of your skin.
- 58:55So I I started going through the Bible and realizing every time
- 58:58there's a holy man, a prophet, an Angel, a man of God, he's
- 59:01wearing white linens and I'm like, well, that's just not by
- 59:04accident, there's something to that.
- 59:05So I'll just leave it there. You guys, listeners do some of
- 59:08your own research, but I have some some some detailed research
- 59:12on some really, really good stuff in there.
- 59:14And then E 5 EPHAH is mentioned in Zachariah 59, right?
- 59:21There's these these two angelic women style spirits that have
- 59:27the wings like storks and they're they're lifting up the
- 59:29E5 from the earth to the heavens.
- 59:33I want you guys to Google E5 EPHAH and hit Google it and hit
- 59:40image and tell me what that looks like to you.
- 59:42I'm just just planting the seed. We can go deeper into it when I
- 59:45come back and we we recollab here.
- 59:47But I'm just dropping some stuff for you guys because there's
- 59:51there's purpose here. It's weird.
- 59:53It's strange it's important and we're going to do our best as
- 59:56layman's to get into it. So I I mean, Michael, I thank
- 1:00:00you man, because you have you've spoken some wisdom to me, man.
- 1:00:03You make me laugh which is important.
- 1:00:05Just your sense of humor your raw your real you just hey this
- 1:00:08is who I am, bro. This is what's going on and and
- 1:00:11God is using you in mighty ways. So I just want to thank you for
- 1:00:13this opportunity, bro. And this time to just be like
- 1:00:17you know, talk with you and share my heart and.
- 1:00:20And get to know you better, man. That's important to me.
- 1:00:24No, that's exactly. And we need to do more talk shop
- 1:00:27shows where it's like Okay, where can we meet up people
- 1:00:31listening to us like Okay, who wants to go to Knoxville, TN or
- 1:00:36you're in Pennsylvania? I'm in North Carolina, but I was
- 1:00:39thinking about we could hijack. You know, Canary car radio
- 1:00:42meetups. And then just like, have their
- 1:00:44audience, then grab them and abduct them and then assimilate
- 1:00:47them, we'll take them up in the E fop with 10 Omers.
- 1:00:52Yes, I'd go to the E. FOP bribe them with free food?
- 1:00:55Yeah. I don't know.
- 1:00:57I mean, there's so much that we can do.
- 1:00:58And I want to thank Geralyn as well.
- 1:01:01Peach. Yes, Peach is amazing.
- 1:01:03Guys, listen to Millennial. The The Millennial Pod.
- 1:01:08My gosh. Millennial seed.
- 1:01:10Millennial mustard seed. The.
- 1:01:13Mustard Podcast The Millennial Mustard Seed Think about the
- 1:01:17Millennial reign of Christ coming and the Mustard seed
- 1:01:20which becomes the greatest of all trees, although it is the
- 1:01:23smallest of all seeds. Listen to Strange O'clock
- 1:01:26Podcast. These are really good curated
- 1:01:29interviews and you don't. You don't do a show every day,
- 1:01:32but you do. Produce high quality content.
- 1:01:35Every week I'm out there just like waking up half asleep in
- 1:01:39the car, you know, windows down because the air conditioning's
- 1:01:42broken and I'm just like, hey guys, making a tick tock up.
- 1:01:47I watched City of Angels last night with Nicolas Cage and it
- 1:01:50was really fun myself out this cage in.
- 1:01:56Then I get to my destination. I look at my phone, It's like,
- 1:01:59oh crap, it was on mute the whole time.
- 1:02:00It was really good. That's like what I do every day.
- 1:02:06So the Spirit Force do not do not subscribe to Spirit Force
- 1:02:10podcast, but definitely subscribe to Millennial Mustard
- 1:02:14Seed and Strange O'clock Podcast for high quality stuff that you
- 1:02:18want to share with people and wake people.
- 1:02:19When Souls is our main the Commission we we are following
- 1:02:23the Great Commission. Amen, Broskis and sisters, thank
- 1:02:28you so much. And.
- 1:02:31Any last words? Y'all.
- 1:02:32I heard Peach in there just now. You guys did a great job as
- 1:02:37usual. I really appreciate you guys.
- 1:02:41Thanks for producing this behind the scenes and this will be a
- 1:02:44video on some platform somewhere.
- 1:02:46Producer Peach behind the scenes making it happen where we got a
- 1:02:50lot of love and respect for you and it's just an honor to to
- 1:02:54just know how much you do behind the scenes and just taking a
- 1:02:58second to recognize just the woman of God that you are and.
- 1:03:02Well, thank you and continue to exalt you and bless you in due
- 1:03:05time. So it's been an amazing, amazing
- 1:03:09episode. And talk with you guys.
- 1:03:12That's good. Thank you.
- 1:03:13I think you guys are very blessed and are oozing and
- 1:03:18brimming full of godly. Manly wisdom and I'm I'm it's an
- 1:03:22honor and a blessing to to get to know you guys on a personal
- 1:03:27as well as podcast level. And I I had the blessing of
- 1:03:31meeting Michael a few months ago when my husband and I we were
- 1:03:35going on vacation over there to the to the good old sale.
- 1:03:38But I would love to visit. It would be great for my husband
- 1:03:42and I to to come visit you there, Rod.
- 1:03:44But and I'd love to meet your their lovely Filipino wife and
- 1:03:47it would just be a huge blessing to meet your.
- 1:03:49Family and your son and everything and it's it's great
- 1:03:53to to to not only interact with people you know like yourselves
- 1:03:58you know through podcasting and seeing and hearing use guys or
- 1:04:02y'all but also in person too. So one of these days, hopefully
- 1:04:06it would be great to have a a millennial spirit dwarf range
- 1:04:10o'clock you know to compilation of of you know some sort of.
- 1:04:15Gathering or what have you, you know, in a midway point between.
- 1:04:18You know all of our podcast. That would be awesome.
- 1:04:21That would be really cool. Yeah, we we should try to, you
- 1:04:24know, we should do a Canary Cry meet up and then just be like,
- 1:04:27I'm listen, It was from listening to Canary Cry radio at
- 1:04:31work back in 2017 that I had the crazy idea to start a podcast.
- 1:04:35So I got nothing but honor and love and respect for those guys.
- 1:04:38And if we get together with other like minded believer, we
- 1:04:41can just give them guys honor and praise but also break bread
- 1:04:43together. So I think that's a really good
- 1:04:45idea to try doing like a Canary Crime meet up maybe somewhere,
- 1:04:48somewhere halfway in between and just trying to get people to
- 1:04:51come out Canary crime. Radio is on.
- 1:04:54We have fringe radio network carries Canary Crime Radio and.
- 1:04:58I was on Joy Spearsy with Basil. So I mean, oh wow.
- 1:05:01Friends. So they won't.
- 1:05:03They won't, like, get too mad. Hopefully they won't sue us.
- 1:05:05I don't know how everybody knows each other.
- 1:05:07Like what? Like that kind of stuff.
- 1:05:09That's crazy cool, man. Yeah, that's well.
- 1:05:12You know, I don't even I don't. I love this.
- 1:05:13Small world, you know. When you do this long enough,
- 1:05:15dude, you're gonna meet everybody.
- 1:05:17Just don't give up. Like, keep going and absolutely.
- 1:05:20I. Mean you could be doing shows in
- 1:05:22a cardboard box, but you're you're doing them and then years
- 1:05:25later you're like the last guy doing it.
- 1:05:27Because no. Nobody else would do that.
- 1:05:31But we're praying for you. That's super motivating.
- 1:05:34I feel so much better about everything now.
- 1:05:36Thank you. I know and demotivated because
- 1:05:40it's like what this is how you do cardboard box.
- 1:05:46It's what Donald Trump doesn't have control.
- 1:05:48Nobody's in control queuing on his fake.
- 1:05:50There's no, like, control of all of this.
- 1:05:53It's you guys, the listeners who are in control.
- 1:05:55And we're just the people crazy enough to go out here and put
- 1:05:58our faces and our voices out there.
- 1:06:00But it's really the listeners. I mean, you're carrying us, so
- 1:06:03please share the show, everybody.
- 1:06:05We'll be, we'll be doing more shows together.
- 1:06:07So thank you so much, Rod. This is so awesome.
- 1:06:10Looking forward to doing another show.
- 1:06:12Yeah, Looking forward to it. Looking forward to it.
- 1:06:15Yeah, Alrighty. Well, I know that you need to go
- 1:06:20home and feed your family with the Chinese food and everything
- 1:06:23and the listeners or or watchers, thank you so much for
- 1:06:26tuning in. We really appreciate you guys
- 1:06:28and gals the most for praying for us as we pray for you and
- 1:06:32and sharing the show and all that good stuff.
- 1:06:37Well, God bless you all. Yes, have a wonderful.
- 1:06:43Evening or morning or afternoon, strange o'clock.
- 1:06:46Strangeoclock.com faithbucks.com Millennial Mustard se-ed.com
- 1:06:52Podcast You can find me a New podcast, Gotcha And on the
- 1:06:55podcast, in the show notes you'll find the website and
- 1:06:57you'll find all the information on the details of the show notes
- 1:07:00of any episodes. So yeah.
- 1:07:04Well, feel free to rebroadcast this if it's.
- 1:07:08Of your standards. And so, Millennial, yeah, send
- 1:07:12it to me. I'll definitely put this out on
- 1:07:13my end. I'm just putting the notes here
- 1:07:18in the chat here on the the Spirit Force and we'll be
- 1:07:21obviously this will also be on the fringe radio network.
- 1:07:23Thank you everybody for joining us.
- 1:07:25This is really awesome to get to.
- 1:07:27Like actually this is kind of revolutionary.
- 1:07:31All right. Thank you so much.
- 1:07:33Bring some podcast guys. Bye, bye.
- 1:07:38Bye.