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The governance of public schools · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

• 0:12
  I'm Stephanie Coxson.
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  And I'm Kathy Anderson Martin.
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  And we are two women influencing real life.
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  So let's twirl.
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  So Stephanie, we have had over the past two and a half years, probably one of our number one topics we've covered is our education system in America, or as you refer to it as our government school system.
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  And just things that are happening, not just from academic wise, but things that people need to be aware of curriculums, uh, narratives that are being produced, all kinds of things.
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  But why your children are changing and yes, you can't figure it out.
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  There may be answers to that.
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  Yes.
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  So today we have someone on who has um an experience with that as a school board president and very active uh participant in his local district and sharing some things that he's seen happening and giving warnings to parents about why you need to say, and we say it all the time be aware of what's happening and be involved.
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  Absolutely.
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  You have to be involved if you're not involved, you know what don't know what's going on.
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  And that's honestly the reason that your children are coming home with issues, in my opinion, a lot of times, because you know, things work from the top down and the top is not great.
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  And so it is time aware to be aware.
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  I'm Stephanie Coxon, I'm Kathy Anderson Martin, and we are two women inspiring real life.
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  So let's twirl.
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  So this morning we have welcome Brian Drapp.
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  And Brian, if you could just give a little bit of background of yourself.
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  Um, one is your professional experience and experience within uh school districts.
• 1:59
  Well, thank you very much, Kathy and Stephanie.
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  It's an honor to be on here.
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  I've listened to your shows before, and I think you're doing a great service to everyone, and there's so much that's applicable out there to uh you know to parents.
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  Uh a little bit about myself.
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  I'm uh retired Navy captain, and I was also on the Cumberland Valley School Board as a school director for six and a half years, serving as president for one year, and for the last probably two and a half years, I've been very active as far as transparency, finding what's going on.
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  I learned a lot during my six and a half years on the board, but I learned even more as being just a regular resident.
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  Uh, I know what goes on, but now I understand how to find out more what's going on and getting more parents and residents involved and engaged in this in the school board activities.
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  So, what has been your biggest kind of eye opener um, you know, in in this journey?
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  One from the inside, as you said, is being an elected school board officials are mostly wherever you are in the country, I believe, elected.
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  And then you know, you were in the leadership position, and now just as an active community member, what's been the biggest kind of eye opener to you in in this journey?
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  Oh my God, I how naive I was when I was on the board.
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  Um, I assume that everybody would tell me the truth, really what's going on.
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  Uh, and that includes administrators as well as fellow board members.
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  But as I found out even more so after I got it off, sometimes you only get like half the truth, or there's not they're not even telling you stuff, and you have to make decisions and you have to rely on these individuals to tell you what's going on because there's just so much.
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  We live in a you know, one of the biggest school districts, uh the biggest one in Central South Central PA, and you know, you have 11,000, 12,000 students, and I just learned that you have to parents have to be engaged.
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  They do not know what's going on in many cases.
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  They just assume the board members assume that administrators are doing the right things.
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  And and you're talking that was from as being a director and the president, much less even as a parent who never goes to board meetings or never listens to anything, you know, you just think everyone's doing the right thing, and that's not always the case.
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  Yes, it is.
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  And also, you know, there's this, I don't want to say good old boy network, but you're expected when I got on there, you're expected to fall in line.
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  You're expected everybody to think the same.
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  You're expected to have all your conversations and executive session behind the scenes, always agree in public, never any public discourse.
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  I'm talking about even professional difference of opinion discourse.
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  It was frowned upon.
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  And when I kind of pushed the boundaries, I became it was eight to one, and didn't it didn't stop me, but it was it was very frustrating.
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  And then luckily, I know one of your other guests, Kelly Podner had got on the board, one of the best school directors I've seen, very professional, very you know, reads the stuff, really educated on the stuff and it's made a big difference.
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  And that's the type of individuals you need on the board.
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  The problem is you need a majority, you need at least five because when I was on there, then we got three new board members of still five to four, and they were just you know, they're just rubber stamping everything for the uh the superintendent.
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  So that's that's one that's one of the biggest things I found.
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  And and you have to when you're in that minority, you said it went from eight to one to five to four, you know.
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  Um, that I think sometimes is a very hard position to be in because you get vilified, you know, like you're the outlier, just troublemaker, don't want versus maybe the truth teller, and that can be uncomfortable.
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  And again, people running on school boards.
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  This is not a paid position.
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  It's totally voluntarily, you're there voluntarily.
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  Um, that can be hard.
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  Oh, that's such an under that's such an understatement.
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  It's brutal.
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  I mean, uh the you know, the the left many times, and and that's really a lot where lots coming from.
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  I mean, you do get vilified, it's all personal attacks, it's not addressing the substance of what you're trying to try to get to, and they make you like the bad person, and then you know, something else, I don't know if we're gonna get into, but you know, when I got on the board in 17, you know, I spent 300, you know, so I didn't have to fill out the financial disclosures all the time.
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  And the second time I ran, I still had you know some of my signs left.
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  I spent nothing.
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  This last election, there's four board members.
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  I'm sure this is Apple around the the nation.
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  It was it was a multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars came in for this election for four school board seats and from outside money, and it was just it was incredible at trying to get influence on the board.
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  That's why school boards are way more important than people think.
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  I I think this is actually a really important thing to address here that they're why would hundreds of thousands of dollars come in for school board seats, right?
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  Address here that they're why would hundreds of thousands of dollars come in for school board seats, right?
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  Why from outside the district outside the district?
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  From outside the district outside the district.
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  There's something of importance here that maybe the perhaps the regular person isn't recognizing.
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  There's something of importance here that maybe the perhaps the regular person isn't recognizing.
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  And it's because whenever you are trying to put it, in my opinion, it's whenever you are trying to shift the political environment, you have to start with the kids.
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  And it's because whenever you were trying to put it, in my opinion, it's whenever you are trying to shift the political environment, you have to start with the kids.
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  We have seen this as they have changed countries from being free to communism and socialism.
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  We have seen this as uh
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  And how they do it is through the children, which needs to be a huge red flag.
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  So when we are seeing, you know, a school board, someone running for the school board, they should not have to put a lot of money into it.
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  It's a it's a free position.
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  There should not be a lot of outside needed donations.
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  So when we see something like that, and it's happening across the country, this is our red flag.
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  This is really really important for you to protect your children.
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  You guys, everyone needs to get on these seats to protect your children or get your children out of the government schools.
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  Oh, Stephanie, you're absolutely correct.
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  You know, I've I view what is the purpose of our school system.
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  I waited till my my children got through and graduated because I didn't want uh appearance of a conflict of interest or perceived or real in some cases, it's one or the other, and that's the you know, there's some some truth to that.
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  But I think that the education systems there for two for one reason only to educate our children and keep them safe while it's happening.
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  Nothing more, nothing less.
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  So to answer your question specifically, why is all this money coming in?
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  It's to it does start with the children, it's to inject some of this woke in this this stuff, this social experimentation.
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  My God, it is unbelievable.
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  The stuff I've I saw, I could that's why I said I felt naive because you know, I'd asked the superintendent, and this is when I was present board hey, is this going on or is this going on?
• 9:05
  Oh no, it's not, no, it's not.
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  And you know, I just give you one example, and I'm sure you've seen they've people have seen it around the country.
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  You know, this this business of furries, you know, distraction, people dressing up and and you know, taking in the role of it's one thing to have uh uh, you know, hey, your identity, but dressing up like cats with tails and whiskers and stuff, and oh, it's unbelievable.
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  So I was told it didn't happen.
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  So I was in an event uh that I was judging an art competition.
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  So I'm it's during school hours.
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  So I I volunteered, I did it.
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  I'm standing there.
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  What am I looking at?
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  I'm looking at a human cat.
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  And so I called the superintendent up right there, said, Hey, you know, I thought we didn't have these.
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  He says, No, we don't.
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  I said, I'm looking at one right here in front of me.
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  I mean, so this stuff is just one example, but it's just the stuff they're trying to try to inject, whether it's you know, and I know we're gonna get into some of this, some of the policy stuff, but it's it's social experimentation being thrust upon our children.
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  You know, at best, you said the word it's a distraction to the regular kid, you know, the rate uh the rest of the population within the school.
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  That's at best a distraction.
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  At worst, which I think it is, it's more manipulative to just create a sense of chaos and uh anything goes, there are no morals or absolutes, you know.
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  So that and an indoctrination, if you will.
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  So it's somewhere between that.
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  Um, but there again, it's the other part.
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  Oh no, we're not having it, and you're like, I'm I'm looking at it.
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  Yeah, I'm looking at Dr.
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  Seuss.
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  I did I I did an article on that, and one of the biggest, you know, the comments I got is that's not happening.
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  That is not true, and yet it is.
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  But as you know, if you deny it five, six, seven, eight, nine times on the other side, it can't possibly be true.
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  But here's the bottom line.
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  You're going to school to be educated.
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  You're not going to make a statement, you're not going to, you know, shouldn't be.
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  You shouldn't be.
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  Shouldn't be.
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  You, and in my humble opinion, not humble, my opinion.
• 11:02
  This is, I guess this is not humble.
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  Uh Brian, she's going on a rant here.
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  So just sit by the coffee.
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  Put a polo shirt on, put some khaki pants on, get all the distractions out of school so you can concentrate on your work.
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  No one needs to be looking at your tail, dragging through the floor, no one needs a litter box, no one needs extra bathrooms or anything else.
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  Just put some freaking clothes on that covers your body up because you also don't need to be showing your your parts off to people.
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  Get your buck to school, get home, and then do what you want, but not at school.
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  That's not your place.
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  Sorry.
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  I I agree with that.
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  And uh, I just wish there's more individuals like yourself to come out to school board meetings and you know let your voice be heard.
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  You know, when parents what one of the things, and I think this is applicable when parents get involved in this, and this is true everywhere, is they have an issue.
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  How do I they don't know how to address it?
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  You know, when I was on the board, I said, Hey, use it.
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  I believe, you know, coming from the military, and it's applicable here, use the chain of command, work your way up from whether it's the teacher, what it's the school, the building administrator on up if you don't feel you've had it rectified, you know, go to the go to the superintendent, go to the school board.
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  But I find when you bring a legitimate issue, I I've experienced and seeing a new, just a new level of gaslighting these parents.
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  All of them have the same thing.
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  Many of them come to me because they know I'm engaged, and the same, it's the same thing.
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  They go through the chain of command, everyone just you know gives them lip service, they don't do anything, and finally, if they go up to the superintendent, he is weighs in heavy handed, shut up.
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  I've got it under control, and they think it must be me.
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  No one else's experiences, it must be me.
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  And I tell them, no, it's not you.
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  So it's it's really once they figure it out though, they become very active, and I help them guide them through there's different ways to address all this stuff and get to the truth that you can't refute it.
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  Well, and I think if there's one person who's speaking up, there are a ton more who are just afraid.
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  Most people aren't willing to stand out and to question.
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  And I think some people believe there'll be retribution on their children.
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  I think if they stand up, um, I did that under the same school district Brian's at when they took away grades in the elementary school.
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  And um, I thought that was ridiculous because there was no objective way to measure progress on the kids, and I went to meetings and stood up, and the head of the time used to call me Mrs.
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  Marshall, because she had my last name right wrong.
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  And my kids who were in school at the time said, Oh, mom, we're so glad she calls you Mrs.
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  Marshall, so she doesn't realize we're your kids.
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  So even the kids like we're afraid, like, oh no, if they know my mom's speaking out.
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  Do you think that's the case, Brian, that parents are afraid, like, oh no, this is gonna come back on my kids if I speak out?
• 13:52
  Oh, 100%.
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  But the thing is, uh, Kathy, I've seen it.
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  I mean, we just had we just had a recent one this last week that turned out positive, only because it got elevated, the parents started, you know, got involved in it, uh, not just with administrators, publicly spoke during public comment.
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  Positive only because it got elevated.
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  The parents started, you know, got involved in it.
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  Uh, not just with administrators, publicly spoke during public comment.
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  I engaged and did some things as far as elevated this up also.
• 14:10
  I I engaged and did some things as far as elevated this up also.
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  And so by the time that we we got the information that would have basically shown and exposed them, they capitulated right before they're ready to just prevent a student from who transferred because it was so bad.
• 14:16
  And so by the time that we we got the information that would have basically shown and exposed them, they capitulated right before they're ready to just prevent a student from who transferred because it was so bad from participating in any athletics this senior year.
• 14:34
  So you can make a difference, and but you got to get engaged in you, and it's it's not easy, but this retribution is is a real thing, not just to them.
• 14:44
  I felt it myself.
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  I mean, I remember chatting with you uh at an event about it.
• 14:49
  Yeah, I'm not gonna say what the stuff is because I don't want to give ideas again, but it is true, it is true.
• 14:56
  Right.
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  So they came at you personally, and you said that earlier, nothing based in fact or the actual issue, but personal attacks, and that is so often the left I would just want to say this.
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  I had a number of issues when I first my older, you know, older three kids were in government school before I realized everything that was going on, and I had a number of issues, and I would raise them at the school to the point I you know, I and I was just always in disagreement, and we'd always come to my conclusion because I went forth with facts, and so it always turned out in my favor to you know, to an extent.
• 15:30
  Um, and I only had to apologize once because I did email the superintendent while I was in labor, and that was kind.
• 15:36
  That's a good that's a good record for her that she only had to apologize once normally a lot more, but gone.
• 15:42
  But not my fault.
• 15:42
  I was in labor, and I probably should not have had access to email at that point.
• 15:47
  But you know, one of the things that happened that I just found I I thought was kind of crazy is years later, and this five, six years later, I I was at a place, and a lot of them, all a lot of the teachers and the principal um were at the same event, they came up to me and they just wanted to say, I am so thankful that you were an educated parent and would bring these things to our, you know, would talk to us about this.
• 16:09
  They said, we really appreciated your viewpoint.
• 16:12
  They could not say it publicly, but once it was all completed, they actually all kind of celebrated what I fought for and and realized that it's what was needed.
• 16:23
  And I think so.
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  Sometimes on the back end, you can get some really good people who change when they recognize that you're making really valid arguments because perhaps they haven't heard that viewpoint before either.
• 16:34
  Oh, that is true.
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  And I think something that I don't want lost here, and I I want to make sure that it comes out in this in this discussion conversation is there's some really there's some really talented and really good, great and dedicated teachers, even administrators in the school system.
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  However, they are the they're the non-vocal majority because of the retribution issue, but there's some really great ones, and they do that.
• 17:01
  They come up and they can't say it publicly because you know that they'll be frowned upon because you know, the more liberal and kind of woke ones are at the at the top running things, but they'll even even you know, I've I have friends, you know, on the left, and that we just agree to disagree, which is fine.
• 17:18
  I don't have a problem.
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  It's just those ones in the middle of the rhinos.
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  But uh they even will say, I just I appreciate I appreciate you getting people involved in in what you're doing because we can't do it because of the retribution.
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  I mean, it cuts both ways.
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  It's it's it's it's not right, but there's it's unfortunate because some really great teachers trying to do really great things for our kids.
• 17:43
  Uh some of the issues, and we want to get into some of these, Brian, because of your experience um that we hear about, and I think make news or people we hear both sides.
• 17:52
  People say, Oh, that's not happening.
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  And then other people say, Yes, this is happening.
• 17:56
  Um, one of those, but um, the restrooms in the school that's a hot topic.
• 18:02
  Yeah, so I figure we'll just start with that one.
• 18:05
  Um, you know, what what's going on with that from what you see?
• 18:08
  And again, you're from a position uh uh inside and out and being very actively involved.
• 18:13
  So what's going on with that?
• 18:15
  What when I got on the when I got on the board at the end of the 17, uh, it was it had just evidently just reared its head, and uh and it's come around a couple of times, but now it's pretty it's being pushed, and the the administration board majority don't want to touch it.
• 18:29
  I'm sure they have it at uh nationally face the same thing.
• 18:33
  They're come to find out what is the truth.
• 18:36
  A parent, we once again, this is another parent who actively speaks at board meetings.
• 18:40
  He started investigating about this, he calls the administration, talk to the president of the board, and and the president of the board said, Oh, there's a policy on it, you know, okay.
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  What is it?
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  Well, and this is policy.
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  The issue being like boys and using girls' rest issues.
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  Mostly boys using girls.
• 18:56
  The issue is anybody doing anything they want, really, and it really primarily boys, biological boys using girls' restrooms.
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  And so he calls the assistant superintendent, you know, and person says, Oh, it's left up to the building administrator.
• 19:11
  So you have a student that goes from uh elementary school to middle school to high school.
• 19:16
  It could be three different policies, they don't even know.
• 19:19
  The administrators don't even know the president of the board doesn't even know.
• 19:23
  And the truth is, you know, I've got right to knows out there, which we'll I think a little later in transparency we can talk about that.
• 19:30
  But to find out what is give me the policies that are board level, give me the guidelines of regulation, the building level.
• 19:36
  Now they just keep delaying this, it's an extension.
• 19:39
  But any the truth is, like in our school district, anything goes.
• 19:43
  There is no policy.
• 19:44
  And the answer from the assistant superintendent, which I think is reprehensible, is oh, we wait till we don't have a policy.
• 19:52
  If something happens, then we'll address it.
• 19:55
  So it's open door until something happens.
• 19:57
  Which my God, I mean, look at Louden County, that nonsense that happened down in Virginia.
• 20:01
  That's what this parent brought to the board.
• 20:03
  And you know, we have we have active school directors that are saying there's not an issue, we don't need it.
• 20:09
  It's it's not basically let a child be harmed before we take action.
• 20:14
  Then we'll take action if something happens, we'll invoke another policy.
• 20:18
  And the same school director said, well, it's not, you know, if they're good, they're if they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it anyway.
• 20:24
  Then why the heck do we have policies on weapons, drugs, bullying, harassment?
• 20:29
  I mean, that's a that's that's that's irresponsible.
• 20:32
  It really is.
• 20:33
  That is not governance.
• 20:35
  Um, you have a military background, corporate, you don't just say, oh, well, we'll wait till somebody does something wrong before we have you know a policy.
• 20:45
  I mean, that that is just that's report failure.
• 20:48
  That's that's the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard.
• 20:50
  Poor leadership.
• 20:51
  Yeah, and also there's there's a pragmatic aspect of this, whether it's you know, boy girl, boy boy, girl girl, you know, it's all you know, they make these new schools now, and they're all there, there's no urals, it's all just private stalls, and that's one of the things the board members said.
• 21:00
  Girl, girl, you know, it's all you know, they make these new schools now, and they're all there's there's no urals, it's all just private stalls, and that's one of the things the board members said.
• 21:08
  Well, they're private stalls.
• 21:08
  Well, the private stalls, okay.
• 21:09
  Okay, if anybody can do anything, that means you can have any of these combinations doing anything they want, whether it's you know, sexual activity, drugs, web, anything, who knows?
• 21:10
  If anybody can do anything, that means you can have any of these combinations doing anything they want, whether it's you know, sexual activity, drugs, web, anything, who knows?
• 21:18
  That isn't right.
• 21:18
  That isn't right.
• 21:19
  But what gets lost in this, which this really bothers the majority of parents, and I think a lot of your audience could relay is nobody cares about that other.
• 21:19
  But what gets lost in this, which this really bothers the majority of parents, and I think a lot of your audience could relay is nobody cares about that other, let's use a boy going into a a girl's restroom.
• 21:33
  They don't care about the girls that may feel uncomfortable.
• 21:36
  You know, my position has always been when I came on the board, and it is still now is biological boys use boys' restrooms, biological girls use girls' restrooms.
• 21:46
  If anybody, boy, girl, any other identity has an issue, well, contact administrator, they can make special rings, uses a staff restroom, a family restroom, or whatever.
• 21:57
  That's how you deal with this.
• 21:58
  You don't force all this stuff on people, and you don't care about other people being uncomfortable.
• 22:05
  It's not fair to the majority.
• 22:07
  It just isn't right.
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  I I agree.
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  I mean, that, and that's again, and they won't even consider that.
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  They won't, they don't even consider it.
• 22:15
  They don't want you now.
• 22:16
  I mean, you had a you had you had a teacher's union president stand up there and say, if you tell my kids they can't go into the other other restroom, you are attacking their integrity.
• 22:28
  I don't understand that.
• 22:30
  It's not it.
• 22:31
  What about the other individuals that's lost?
• 22:34
  Yeah, I I think it's a sad state of affair, um, especially when we're not protecting that we don't have enough time to go into it, but the I I the last stat I read, and I don't I I don't know how true this is at this moment, but one in four girls have some sort of sexual harassment, trauma sort of a thing.
• 22:54
  And when you are opening these bathrooms and having a male in there with them, you're basically causing a recurrence of trauma for these females.
• 23:03
  We're not protecting the females who have already been hurt, and that's kind of scary for our developed developing teenagers who literally will carry this with them for a long period of time when there is no protection for them.
• 23:18
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• 28:10
  Welcome back.
• 28:11
  Um, how about you know how does the school?
• 28:11
  Um how does the school?
• 28:15
  I'm curious how the school justifies harming other kids with their no policy policy.
• 28:15
  I'm curious how the school justifies harming other kids with their no policy policy.
• 28:24
  You know, is that a conversation that people are having?
• 28:24
  You know, is that a conversation that people are having?
• 28:28
  Is that do they even recognize that?
• 28:28
  Is that do they even recognize that could be going on?
• 28:31
  Well, they I think in our in our district, it's just ignored.
• 28:36
  They try to pivot off other off, just pivot to another subject, or they'll just they'll just concentrate on the one individual.
• 28:43
  Well, this person, we need to we need to think about the feelings, need to think about this person with no no regard for the feelings of the other 99% of the individuals, and they'll quote numbers.
• 28:56
  Well, you know, it's only one percent, two percent, three percent.
• 28:59
  What about the other 97, 8 or 9%?
• 29:02
  I mean, that's the you're just they try to stall it and not just not address it and ignore the issue.
• 29:08
  I mean, they don't talk about it.
• 29:10
  And I'm sure that's people experience that in other school districts, they just don't want to talk about it.
• 29:15
  We're in charge, we know better, be quiet, go away.
• 29:19
  I mean, that's the message.
• 29:21
  And how do you uh go about and this is I mean, these are social issues, the bathrooms and so forth, but there's financial issues with schools.
• 29:29
  Uh, I was in sales for many years, and we spent extra time teaching how to sell to schools because you could make so much more money than the corporate world, uh, just because there was no oversight, but that's a whole nother story.
• 29:40
  How there's something called, and I we get into at this point, like a right to know.
• 29:44
  So you're and you maybe you want to say something before this that you can try to file something called a right to know request to get information and access to records.
• 29:53
  Is that is that correct?
• 29:54
  Is that what that is?
• 29:55
  Oh, yes.
• 29:56
  I mean, it's applicable to this.
• 29:58
  That is the that is one of the most effective keys.
• 30:01
  And you know, in preparing for this, I was thinking about how can how can parents get involved?
• 30:06
  What is the path, you know, besides using the chain of command, besides going to public meetings, besides writing board, you know, there's other ways.
• 30:14
  One of them is, you know, this, you know, uh, media, uh, the news, social media, social media is awesome on getting the word out.
• 30:22
  But the biggest one I find most effective, and I help I help parents.
• 30:26
  I just helped one this morning, uh, write one is the right to know.
• 30:30
  And it's apple, I mean, nationally, the states have different laws, but they're basically the same in Pennsylvania.
• 30:35
  There's certain information, if it's if it's information with financial, which is huge, or anything about policies, anything about what's happened, firings, retire and tiring uh reports on investigations, uh, except for PII stuff.
• 30:52
  You have the right to request that certain point.
• 30:56
  You can't ask for questions to be answered, but you can ask for documents.
• 30:59
  And guess what?
• 31:00
  They have to they have to give it to you.
• 31:02
  Now, what I found out, I mean, I've had if you if they don't give you the answer in a certain amount of time, you can appeal it to the state.
• 31:08
  And you know, I have I have right now two active appeals, but I've had 23 other appeals.
• 31:14
  And except for a timing by one day, I've won every one of them.
• 31:18
  And it forces this the school districts to provide the information.
• 31:23
  I'll give you one example, which this I just left the board uh and we're we we have a 200 million dollar budget.
• 31:31
  You know, there's some a lot bigger, some a lot smaller.
• 31:33
  200 million dollar budget.
• 31:35
  They were getting ready to vote on it, and the administration refused to give us a detailed budget.
• 31:41
  Four board members, the book the administration works for the board, they refuse to give it to us, and we're expected to vote on a 200 million dollar budget that all taxpayers, you know, there's a lot of power with taxation in Pennsylvania that's given to the board decides that, but which is about 60, 70% of your taxes.
• 31:59
  So they wouldn't give it to us.
• 32:01
  So when I left the board, I did a right to know.
• 32:03
  They denied it, so I peeled it, won it.
• 32:06
  I I finally, after three months, got the detailed budget after they voted, I provided that to the board members.
• 32:12
  So you had to have a private citizen get budget information to give to active elected board members to see what's going on in the district.
• 32:20
  That's how just crazy this is.
• 32:21
  Well, how what was their re reason for not giving you the budget?
• 32:25
  That you don't need it.
• 32:26
  You won't under you won't understand it.
• 32:29
  Oh yes, you won't understand it.
• 32:31
  So it's no that was it.
• 32:34
  That was that was the reason you don't understand.
• 32:36
  I want to make a comment here.
• 32:38
  I'm on the board of a financial institution, and there's a thing called fiduciary responsibility of any board that you're on, meaning that if you're voting on it, you theoretically know all of that information.
• 32:48
  Now, a financial institution is a those um financials are complex, you know, that that is hard.
• 32:55
  You have to, when I joined that board, I had to take six tests, uh, like modules of financial.
• 33:01
  So it proved that as a board member, I can read a PL, I can understand those things.
• 33:06
  Then I have a, I mean, and I don't understand by any means the hundreds and hundreds of lines, but I have a basic knowledge of ratios and what things should be and so forth.
• 33:15
  You are expected in the private sector as a board member to to know that.
• 33:20
  That's where I just pisses me off.
• 33:22
  And I'm gonna say that with education.
• 33:24
  Um, we understand it, Mr.
• 33:26
  Naval Commander and Mr.
• 33:28
  Business Owner, but you don't.
• 33:30
  So we can vote on this, and we just we we have this, and you just need to rubber stamp it.
• 33:35
  It's it's even worse than that though, Kathy, because let's say the last two years, you know, you're showing you're you know, they get they got a big, they have big construction, they build Taj Mahalls and spend 155 million dollars, which you know, they they need equity, everything's got to be perfect.
• 33:50
  No, you need classrooms to educate students.
• 33:52
  So they budget, they're gonna lose money.
• 33:58
  So they get they that this bond offering, and they got a double SSP downgrade.
• 34:02
  Cripes, they have the same credit rating as Harrisburg did right before they went into insolvency uh and receivership.
• 34:08
  But they they say we're gonna lose five million dollars, and then they execute and they come in at six at six million dollars positive.
• 34:18
  You know, they have this 10 million dollar flip.
• 34:21
  And right before they budget for the next year, like they just had an off-site this uh two days ago, they nothing was given to the board four board members ahead of time.
• 34:30
  So they gotta they don't know what's going on.
• 34:32
  They don't have any detail, but they're expected to produce a budget by the end of the end of June.
• 34:36
  And they're pretty they're predicting an $8.3 million deficit.
• 34:40
  So they got to raise that we've maxed the taxes that they're allowed to do for the last 13 years.
• 34:45
  But then they say, look what a great job in execution.
• 34:47
  It's a shell game.
• 34:48
  You don't know what to believe, budgeting execution.
• 34:51
  And that's why we do a lot of write to knows to find out what is the what is the truth.
• 34:55
  The only thing I found is the truth in all this financial stuff is when they do a bond offering, I get the SP global 146 page bond proxy and read it because that has to be truth and advertising.
• 35:00
  I get the SP global 146-page bond proxy and read it because that has to be truth and advertising.
• 35:07
  So when you file these right to know requests, they deny it because they don't want you to have the information is what it is.
• 35:07
  So when you file these right to know requests, they deny it because they don't want you to have the information, is what it is, but then you win because but then that um the two things that happen are time and money, right?
• 35:15
  But then you win because but then that um the two things that happen are time and money, right?
• 35:20
  Because it delays you getting the information until probably after they voted on something, until you say, see, I told you so.
• 35:20
  Because it delays you getting the information until probably after they voted on something, until you say, see, I told you so.
• 35:27
  And um there, then they pay money to a
• 35:27
  And um there, then they pay money to attorneys to fight this, uh, and tell me if I'm wrong, and then they blame you for filing the request in the first place.
• 35:37
  Oh, you've missed just one detail that is all accurate except the last detail.
• 35:41
  Like my my two that are in appeal, they combined into one.
• 35:44
  I wanted some emails because of funky stuff going on.
• 35:47
  And so I've got a lot, and I and it's really been helpful on two big issues.
• 35:52
  But you know, I filed it, they extended it, then they finally granted it for, and this came out to like 18,000 emails.
• 35:59
  They gave me like half, a little less than half.
• 36:01
  They granted it.
• 36:02
  Well, then they just stopped.
• 36:04
  So I appealed it.
• 36:05
  So something they've already agreed to, already started.
• 36:08
  Then in their appeal, because they got to do basically a their attorney's got to do a position statement.
• 36:15
  Not only did they blame me, Kathy, they're trying to chart, they're trying to hand me a bill for over 20,000.
• 36:21
  It's my fault causing them to uh have to research all this stuff, and it's just vexatious because there's something in Pennsylvania they're trying to pass a law about trying to reduce frivolous right to knows, but these aren't frivolous.
• 36:34
  So uh, hey, you granted it.
• 36:36
  Now you want to say no, and you want to charge me 20,000 bucks.
• 36:40
  They know they're not going to win out of this.
• 36:41
  And May 1st, I'll I'll get granted.
• 36:43
  And they, you know, there's there's discussion that they aren't going to give me anything.
• 36:47
  And if I went, well, that's fine.
• 36:48
  There's you just go to the court of common pleas and go through the process, and the court can compel them.
• 36:53
  I mean, it's it's a long process, but I know how it works.
• 36:56
  And if they want to play hardball, that's what that's what you got to do.
• 36:59
  It's unfortunate.
• 37:00
  You just got to be patient.
• 37:01
  I just find it astounding that it's a it's a public institution that we pay for taxpayer funds, taxpayers' money, people's money, other people's money, and that they do everything they can to hide pertinent information from the very people paying those bills.
• 37:22
  Oh, uh a hundred percent.
• 37:24
  And Stephanie, it's not just it's not just from the financial stuff.
• 37:27
  I mean, you know, our district's got three of federal racial discrimination and bullying lawsuits.
• 37:33
  Many, you know, many of uh of these individuals, we got information, and I two of the three I've worked closely with through right to know.
• 37:45
  If it wasn't for the right to know and the transparency, they wouldn't have the information uh to pursue this.
• 37:50
  It's unfortunate.
• 37:51
  I don't believe in going, it was jump to legal uh legal uh remedies and lawsuits.
• 37:57
  But unfortunately, that's the direction we got to go in in some of the stuff.
• 38:00
  So that's a the kind of the funk that the school districts in right now, and that does cost money, and it costs you and I and taxpayers the money to defend that stuff on this crazy stuff that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
• 38:13
  It's just dumbfounding to me.
• 38:15
  The the level, I mean, and and again, here's another red flag.
• 38:19
  Not only are they not willing to give information, you know, a simple request, it shouldn't have to go to this level, but also again, that outside money coming into such a small race.
• 38:31
  I start like I'm sorry, Stephanie.
• 38:34
  No, no, no, I get to work out.
• 38:36
  I do too.
• 38:37
  I I think when they aren't won't give something, there's nothing more concrete than numbers and budgets.
• 38:43
  That I mean, that is a fairly concrete.
• 38:45
  I've done budgets, whatever.
• 38:47
  They're not willing to give that to the people tasked with oversight.
• 38:51
  What then would they hide on other things?
• 38:54
  What would be hidden on you mentioned racial and bullying lawsuits?
• 38:59
  If you're not willing to give some the most concrete of information, your numbers, what then um else is going on?
• 39:07
  That would be my thoughts as a parent and a citizen.
• 39:10
  Well, 100%.
• 39:12
  Yeah, and you find out you know, you know, there's specific things in these right to knows that I did this this last one.
• 39:18
  It was over three-month period of you know, information from six individuals, uh, including board, there's board members involved in that.
• 39:25
  I found I I've got half of it.
• 39:27
  I found what I wanted to for the two subjects, but it's amazing, like collateral stuff that comes up.
• 39:33
  And what the biggest thing that amazed me, I knew this was going on, but you saw it, how it works behind the scenes, you know, because people got to produce all their emails, how they work and maneuver to try to obfuscate stuff, and instead of addressing the issues, well, we got to make it defensible.
• 39:49
  We you know, the the legal part of this stuff.
• 39:53
  Why don't you address the issue instead of spending so much time how to obfuscate and avoid the issue, avoid being caught, avoid providing the information, and then you can see you can see how they're just basically just steamrolling parents that are trying to do the right thing.
• 40:11
  It's just it's amazing.
• 40:12
  That's one of the things I found out, which I was you know, I wasn't looking for, but it was right there in front of me.
• 40:18
  And who knows what this other half's gonna be when I get the rest of them.
• 40:21
  You know, I went through everything, I had 8300 given to me.
• 40:24
  I went through every single email.
• 40:26
  It took a long time, but you know, I know what I was looking for and from who, but it's just amazing.
• 40:32
  This is how it operates.
• 40:33
  Anytime I wrote an email when I was on the board, I wrote it as if someone could do a right to know on it.
• 40:39
  So, and that's the way you need to approach it.
• 40:41
  But others, maybe they're too honest, but you're seeing exactly what's going on.
• 40:45
  It's horrible.
• 40:46
  And here's another question I have, Brian.
• 40:49
  So the head of a school district is, and I think this is the title everywhere.
• 40:53
  My father-in-law actually was one of these, the school is the superintendent.
• 40:56
  Yes, the the CEO of a school district, uh just like a corporation, the CEO, the superintendent.
• 41:03
  The superintendent is hired by the school board, correct?
• 41:07
  Correct.
• 41:07
  They do a search, they select this man or woman to lead their district.
• 41:11
  And and I will say, I mean, my father-in-law, like I say, was a school superintendent before he passed away.
• 41:16
  It it can be a hard job because you have people coming at you from both sides, whatever.
• 41:21
  But when you have gotten to the point of gross mismanagement, neglect of fiduciary responsibility, missing money that is unaccounted for, all of these, whatever it is.
• 41:32
  At what point is there recourse to say this guy or this woman's gotta go?
• 41:36
  Well, there's there's two really recourses, and we looked into that.
• 41:39
  Yes, the board can fire them for cause, or you know, you can basically go to outside agencies, whether it's department of education, whether it's attorney general for illegal stuff.
• 41:51
  Uh there's there's stuff going on right now, just got right to know.
• 41:55
  So, you know, a fund, it's kind of mysterious sponsorship for 13 years.
• 42:00
  13 years, I mean 15 years, only two people, the former CFO and the former board member oversaw it.
• 42:00
  I mean, 15 years, only two people, the former CFO and the former board member oversaw it.
• 42:06
  There's no last year, they they're unaccounted for, they have no documentation for a half million dollars out of 800.
• 42:06
  There's no last year they they're unaccounted for, they have no documentation for a half million dollars out of 800.
• 42:12
  So it's stuff like that.
• 42:12
  So it's stuff like that.
• 42:14
  Is there something illegal?
• 42:14
  Is there something illegal?
• 42:15
  I don't know.
• 42:15
  I don't know, but as soon as I get my second and third right to know, I will know that answer asking for bank.
• 42:16
  But as soon as I get my second and third right to know, I will know that answer asking for bank, I can ask for bank account records, except for account numbers, like everything where it goes, lists, and I got the first trove, and that's that's how you find out stuff.
• 42:21
  I can ask for bank account records, except for account numbers, like everything where it goes, lists, and I got the first trove, and that's that's how you find.
• 42:30
  And if there is something, there is remedies to solve this, but you need the board board has to take their their oath of office legitimately and do the oversight that they were elected to do, not rubber stamp.
• 42:44
  It's almost as if this board majority works for a superintendent.
• 42:47
  I'm sure it's that way in a lot of school districts.
• 42:49
  No, the superintendent works for the board.
• 42:51
  You know, our superintendent gets a quarter million dollars a year.
• 42:54
  I don't have a problem for that in a district that's this budget's like 218 million dollars, you know, 13,000 people between students and it's like a corporate, I look at it as a corporation.
• 43:05
  However, if you're doing that, by God, you need to do your job right, not just okay, I'll follow a policy when I want to, when I don't want to, et cetera.
• 43:13
  Or wait to create one until we have a problem.
• 43:16
  Yes, but you know, if you got policies, follow them.
• 43:19
  I mean, yeah, it was funny.
• 43:21
  I was I was I was listening to I listened to board meetings, and they're talking about this this sponsorship stuff, and about this con we're gonna have a 30,000 contract for uh at Giant Center for graduation.
• 43:31
  And a board member innocently said, Hey, I thought all contracts above 100 by policy had to be approved by the board.
• 43:39
  It's like, oh, that's why we're bringing it.
• 43:42
  Man, the six and a half years I was on the board and the two and a half years afterwards, not a single contract for any of that stuff out of this money that's kind of funky missing uh or unaccounted for, that's correct term, never was voted on.
• 43:55
  So it's like, wow, no wonder, no wonder we have issues.
• 44:03
  I know.
• 44:04
  I'm like, uh you don't even know where to go on this.
• 44:06
  No, there's so much.
• 44:07
  There's just so I feel like we just need to shut down public education.
• 44:12
  I mean, here's the thing like as you're talking about all this.
• 44:15
  Give them a pencil and a ledger, give them a book and a pencil.
• 44:18
  But like even talking about all this, all I can think of is as they're fighting, you know, as this is happening, literacy is going down.
• 44:25
  I mean, our education is going down.
• 44:27
  We're not even getting education at our schools.
• 44:30
  We did better prior to public schools.
• 44:33
  What are we doing?
• 44:34
  Like, what's what is going on?
• 44:37
  You know, I'm I had people can make the parents need to make their own decisions whether to use a public school or private schools or home school, and it's it's a personal decision.
• 44:48
  And I respect those decisions.
• 44:50
  Personally, I do believe in public schools.
• 44:52
  I can't think they can be benefit, but they have to operate under the the way it's supposed to operate of educating our kids and getting this nonsense out.
• 45:02
  I I wrote a I wrote a note once uh recently.
• 45:06
  Public schools are not a P3 Petri dish for your social experiments, they're not.
• 45:13
  Leave our kids alone.
• 45:15
  Let they have enough.
• 45:16
  I mean, they're going, they're going through, you know, uh growing up, going through all this stuff emotionally, physically.
• 45:21
  They have enough to deal with then this then this nonsense that adults are injecting on these students because if an adult says something which is a teacher administrator that's not right, well, kids are programmed.
• 45:35
  Well, adults said it, so it's got to be right.
• 45:37
  No, so that's that's irresponsible by adults, put in a position of influence and leadership over our students.
• 45:45
  We we have had numerous guests on this show, and I bring it up often, Stephanie, because I think it's amazing that they tell the same story.
• 45:51
  We had a person who grew up in the USSR, I mean, Soviet Russia, her grandmother was um, she went from Russia, taken to Nazi uh Germany to work for the that was a whole story.
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  So she has experience from Nazi Germany, USSR.
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  We had another guest from Cuba uh about getting his father, uh grandfather being in prison when they got out, they fled to Venezuela thinking that would be okay.
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  And then same thing as Cuba, they went to then got to the United States.
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  We've had other people from different countries, they all tell the same story that it started in the schools and the indoctrination.
• 46:29
  I'll never forget Stephanie, our guest from the USSR said the KGB function because you went to school and you reported your parents, you know, for saying this thing at home, and then your parents disappeared in the middle of the night, and you were rewarded in school for um doing this.
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  And I believe I know people actually you know they make you sound like a conspiracy theory, but it always starts at the school at the impressionable, as you mentioned, young people with these social experiments, and it's sinister, I believe.
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  I believe it's intentional and it's sinister.
• 46:59
  I mean, one thing that probably the biggest thing that would blew me away.
• 47:04
  Uh I when I when I left being present, I resigned being president uh right at the end of that year, but I was still on the board.
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  And so I got put on committees that I they knew I didn't like.
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  So okay, but I'm gonna do a good job of them.
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  Uh and so I was on the curriculum committee, and so the other two board members weren't there, so I was the only one.
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  So man, so I'm gonna take advantage of this.
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  I'm gonna ask the questions I really wanted to ask.
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  So I asked the this this uh uh the current the head of curriculum about this book called push, you know, and Kelly Potner actually had brought that up.
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  And I had I I read the four-page synopsis by this, she's now the assistant superintendent.
• 47:44
  I was appalled.
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  I mean, about incest, about all incest and the graphic sexual stuff.
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  A parent actually got up when I was on the board and read three minutes of this straight.
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  I was like, I was appalled, absolutely appalled.
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  It was it was pornography, pure pornography.
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  And the rationale and asked the ask the administrator who wrote this up.
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  I said, How why is this even in the why is this in our library?
• 48:08
  Well, it's good for young adults, only high school people can check it out.
• 48:12
  It's good, you know, about the social stuff going on.
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  We know what why is that in our schools?
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  Like I was just appalled.
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  And it takes a lot.
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  I mean, you know, being the military, it takes a lot to surprise me and just it was it was horrible.
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  I have horrible.
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  I have some of those books, pictures of some of those books on my phone, because we had uh meeting with different um people who are fighting these things in school districts throughout Pennsylvania.
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  I have to tell you, when I say that about the content of some of these things, I will show and friends from across the spectrum from very left to very right.
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  I say, well, here's the actual content of the books, and I show them.
• 48:47
  I can't put it on social media because I would probably be flagged as some kind of pervert.
• 48:51
  Exactly.
• 48:52
  Um, and they I have yet to have one who's not like, oh, you know, they I mean, because the level of graphic detail, it's not appropriate for anybody.
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  I actually there's chance.
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  I actually go ahead.
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  Go ahead.
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  I actually sat in the Senate hearing that talked about.
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  I I actually sat in the Senate hearing that talked about.
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  I know what you're gonna say.
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  I know what you're gonna say.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, and I'll never forget the it was Senator Mouth, and she said, and I think oh, I'm pretty sure it was her, but she she said, Well, we need books from all different sorts of people, the LGBT and you know, black people and um everyone but white people, you know, essentially, and all I could think of, so you're saying that the best literature we can.
• 49:07
  And I'll never forget the it was Senator Moof.
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  And she said, and I think well, I'm pretty sure it was her, but she she said, Well, we need books from all different sorts of people, the LGBT and you know, black people and um everyone but white people, you know, essentially.
• 49:25
  And all I could think of, so you're saying that the best literature we can get from people is pornography and that they're not capable of other books.
• 49:37
  You know, like what exactly are we trying to say here?
• 49:40
  Stephanie, in that hearing, didn't someone try to read from the books and they banned they said they couldn't read it because it was pornographic in the Senate.
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  They had fine for school.
• 49:50
  They had to actually they should they did.
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  They shut down the cameras because it was considered to be too provocative to actually show.
• 49:59
  And they yes, they absolutely did.
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  They had to shut it down.
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  But it's okay to be in our public schools with access to our our children.
• 50:07
  Absolutely.
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  With uh, you know, their brains aren't even developed until 25.
• 50:10
  But let's go ahead and let them read this stuff.
• 50:13
  It's insane.
• 50:14
  The excuses they use to put this into the school is insane.
• 50:18
  You know, the all of it, all of it.
• 50:21
  I mmm my face turning red.
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  I'm pretty sure my blood pressure is up.
• 50:24
  These people are nuts.
• 50:26
  Well, that's why people that's why parents, I mean, when stuff like this happens, that's why people need to come out.
• 50:33
  And you know, I found I found this kind of an overarching thing.
• 50:36
  That's it's applicable to everywhere.
• 50:38
  When you get a really big ground swell of grassroots support for a topic, you can really make a difference.
• 50:46
  That's what that's one of the notes I want to leave it on.
• 50:48
  You know, things are turning around slowly.
• 50:50
  Sometimes it feels like glacial, but if I look then and now, we we're making a positive difference, and people and parents who are getting engaged are making a positive difference.
• 51:02
  We just need to get more of them involved.
• 51:03
  You know, we're coming down to the end here.
• 51:06
  Is there a way for people to begin to learn how to do a right to know?
• 51:11
  Is there a resource that they could follow so that they can see what's going on in their school district?
• 51:17
  Yeah, they can just Google it.
• 51:18
  I mean, for their state or go to their district because all of them have the policy there, you know, just but I just go into Google for your state, you know, whether it's Florida, whether it's California, Arizona, just Google right to know how to go.
• 51:31
  It's really it's really simple.
• 51:32
  It takes about three minutes to do one.
• 51:35
  Wow.
• 51:36
  I I I'm gonna be honest, Kathy.
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  Thank you so much for coming on.
• 51:39
  Kathy, um, he cannot come back on.
• 51:42
  He it like my blood teacher is through the roof.
• 51:46
  I'm like, how do these people exist?
• 51:49
  I I I just yes, like I can't handle it.
• 51:52
  I just can't handle it.
• 51:54
  I um it's insane.
• 51:55
  I think it, I mean, that this is just, and again, we've had probably more conversations and shows about the education system because it's so important to know what's going on.
• 52:06
  And and you've said this numerous times, Stephanie.
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  Parents will spend more time t taking their kid back and forth to their travel soccer league game and not know what's going on in that classroom.
• 52:17
  You are entrusting a child to somebody's care for 20, 30, 35 hours a week.
• 52:23
  You need you should be knowing what is being talked about and what's happening in that environment that you're sending them into.
• 52:31
  Yes.
• 52:31
  And I and I think a large part of it when the classes went online and parents actually heard some of the stuff in 2020.
• 52:39
  In 2020, that's what really opened this up.
• 52:42
  But the information that continues to come out from every single level, from people who literally sat on the board, you know, like it's that I'm sorry, we're not giving you the budget because the the board I'm on.
• 52:55
  If if they said if a board member said we need the budget and the CEO said, Well, we're not gonna show it to you because it's very complicated and we don't want you to see it.
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  They would go bonkers.
• 53:06
  Yes, they would go bananas because they said, Well, what's how going on here?
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  You know.
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  Oh, I I do remember having a conversation.
• 53:14
  This was a board member for a Christian private school.
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  And I said, Are you aware of the curriculum they're implementing?
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  Because she's voting on it.
• 53:24
  She goes, Well, you know, I don't really need to read and understand the curriculum.
• 53:28
  And I looked at her and said, Why are you on the board?
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  Like, why are you on the board?
• 53:33
  You this is your job.
• 53:34
  Don't accept the job if you're not willing to do the job, right?
• 53:39
  And and this is the craziness of it all.
• 53:42
  Why are these people getting on these boards?
• 53:43
  I think I just your face is red and now I think your eye is twitching.
• 53:48
  It it yes, yes, it's not good.
• 53:50
  Don't do that when we're in July 2nd through the fourth.
• 53:53
  We cannot stand up there being all twitchy and red.
• 53:55
  No, it no one bring up the schools because like I can't, I can't hear what they're doing to our kids.
• 54:00
  We don't know what topics they're covering during the out breakout sessions and so forth, but maybe we just should say don't talk about schools because we're gonna get too worked up.
• 54:08
  That's true.
• 54:08
  You're you'll still see me running off stage and throwing things.
• 54:12
  I don't know.
• 54:12
  I I just don't understand it.
• 54:14
  It's not logical.
• 54:15
  What is happening?
• 54:16
  There's so many red flags, and yet people still sit there and twiddle their thumbs like everything's okay, and they still continue to blindly send their kids to these schools without questioning anything.
• 54:27
  Who does that?
• 54:28
  Why are you have why are you having kids and you're not trying to guide them?
• 54:32
  Hundreds of millions of people do that, Stephanie.
• 54:34
  You said you know that's oh, why do you have to say that?
• 54:38
  Sorry.
• 54:38
  Um, again, and and I think the other thing is, and Brian mentioned this.
• 54:44
  You when you find other people, it becomes easier because it is hard when you're the only one.
• 54:50
  As he said, when he was the board member when you're eight to one, they resort to personal attacks, they attack your children, but you have to have the a little bit of internal fortitude, intestinal fortitude to stand up and to go find people like yourself, because there is strength in numbers.
• 55:06
  When there's a group of you, when there's two of you, and then there's six of you, and then there's 20 of you.
• 55:10
  That happened during 2020.
• 55:12
  That's um, you know, people found their people.
• 55:15
  Um, it makes it a little easier when you have friends and you can kind of go out for a drink afterwards and say, how ridiculous was that.
• 55:22
  But yeah, you're absolutely right.
• 55:24
  And it's also important to remember that if you yourself have a complaint, have a concern, you're not the only one.
• 55:32
  Correct.
• 55:32
  You are not the only one.
• 55:34
  A hundred thousands, tens of thousands, but it's up to you to to be that voice.
• 55:39
  And people will seek you out and say, Thank you, or can I help you, or I want to hide.
• 55:47
  I mean, that's what people do.
• 55:49
  When I did that when the kids, when they took the grades away at the elementary, the middle school teachers were saying to me, Thank you, keep talking about it.
• 55:55
  It's hurting the kids.
• 55:56
  And that kind of gave me confidence to keep speaking because I realized those teachers were on my side, but they were afraid for their jobs.
• 56:00
  Because I realized those teachers were on my side, but they were afraid for their jobs.
• 56:04
  So I was speaking for them too.
• 56:04
  So I was speaking for them too.
• 56:06
  Yes, and it will come out.
• 56:06
  Yes.
• 56:06
  And it will come out.
• 56:08
  People will show up and say those things, which can be very encouraging.
• 56:08
  People will show up and say those things, which can be very encouraging.
• 56:12
  Correct.
• 56:12
  Correct.
• 56:12
  But you know, but also find that person who's who is willing to speak out with you because it's much more fun to make fun of people together than it is alone.
• 56:12
  But you know, but also find that person who's who is willing to speak out with you because it's much more fun to make fun of people together than it is alone.
• 56:19
  I remember one time speaking out, and there were teachers behind me.
• 56:19
  I remember one time speaking out, and there were teachers behind me.
• 56:22
  I was in the last row, and I heard them going like this.
• 56:22
  I was in the last row and I heard them going like this she's not wrong.
• 56:24
  She's not wrong, she's not wrong.
• 56:25
  She's not wrong.
• 56:26
  And that made me just I grew four inches that day.
• 56:26
  And that made me just I grew four inches that day.
• 56:29
  Yes.
• 56:29
  Yes.
• 56:30
  Yeah, that's the way it works.
• 56:31
  It's you're absolutely right.
• 56:33
  And it will happen to every single one of you.
• 56:35
  So go out there, get your right to know requests, start finding out what's happening in your district, understand it, learn it, do whatever you can to protect your children because your government is not.
• 56:45
  And so with that, wherever you are, to the extent that you are able, stand up, step forward, and speak out.