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With Stugotz & Hoch: The Worst Episode Yet · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: With Stu Gotts and Hawkman.
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  Speaker 2: So I had an idea for today's podcast, Stu Gots,
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  Speaker 2: I had an.
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  Speaker 3: Idea, Okay, an idea, right.
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  Speaker 2: You know I'm an idea guy.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're an idea guy. Yes, you have great ideas.
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  Speaker 3: You've always had great ideas. I'm excited for this idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, this one didn't work out as well as
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to work out, and so
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  Speaker 2: this might not be the best pod that we've ever done.
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  Speaker 2: But listen, you can't bat a thousand, you know.
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  Speaker 3: No, we can't bat a thout. We're pretty damn close, though, Hawk,
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  Speaker 3: we are.
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  Speaker 2: We're pretty close.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like we're batting nine to ninety seven.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I believe in underselling and then under delivering
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  Speaker 2: as well, and that might be what this pod does.
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  Speaker 3: So I went to go.
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  Speaker 2: See the Michael Jackson movie this weekend, and it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen it?
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  Speaker 3: I have not seen it. I'm dying to see it.
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  Speaker 3: I will eventually see it. I don't like seeing movies
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  Speaker 3: in theaters anymore. I got to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I love seeing movies in theaters.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you do.
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  Speaker 2: I go to the you know the minds nerd that
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  Speaker 2: we go to. You go to the IPIC. Yes, got
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  Speaker 2: the waiter and the waitress service, you got the loungers.
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  Speaker 2: They give you the blanket. It's what are you afraid of? Coronavirus?
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  Speaker 3: The blanket in particular, Yes, the coronavirus. Listen, when I
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  Speaker 3: go to a movie, I wanted to be bare bones. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: give me a coke, give me a tub of popcorn.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need blankets, I don't need reclining seats. I
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  Speaker 3: just want to see a movie. Movies have changed, they have.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, no, me and Laurie two tickets to
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson and dinner and whatever. It's about two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty bucks. I'm not even kidding. I wish it
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  Speaker 2: was kidding. It's like, but it's so luxurious, right anyway,
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  Speaker 2: But what do you do?
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  Speaker 3: Like the weight staff comes like you're in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the movie. There's a big park coming up, big
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  Speaker 3: scene coming up at someone's handing you a hangar steak,
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  Speaker 3: Like what happened there?
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  Speaker 2: Angers?
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  Speaker 3: It was the only stake to choose. I was thinking
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  Speaker 3: Porta as the sentence was coming out. I was going
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  Speaker 3: through the Rolladexes. Of all the steaks and hangar steaks
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  Speaker 3: seemed to be the one that would make high laugh
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  Speaker 3: the most. I was right with a huge man.
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  Speaker 2: In comedy, Seinfeld talks about this, you could have the
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  Speaker 2: same exact joke. If you replace one word with another one,
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  Speaker 2: the joke may go from a five to a ten. Hanger.
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  Speaker 2: Steak was absolutely perfect. That was absolutely perfect, Yes, Taylor Hauck.
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  Speaker 4: I actually had free movie tickets to go see Devilware's
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  Speaker 4: product too with my girlfriend recently, and she was so excited.
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  Speaker 4: She was like, look at these free movie tickets. And then,
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  Speaker 4: like you mentioned, I went to the concession line and
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  Speaker 4: the bill was like one hundred and fifty dollars. Now
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking around, like those free movie tickets they save
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  Speaker 4: me what thirty five dollars? I feel like I still
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  Speaker 4: came out on the losing end of this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not, but even you know again, you go
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  Speaker 2: to the IPIC, you're not waiting in any concession line.
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  Speaker 2: The concession line comes to you. I mean, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing, Taylor, working with the Stu Gotts. You're a
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  Speaker 2: national network radio star. Get out of the concession line.
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  Speaker 2: Let the concession line come to you, that's exactly anyway
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna run out of time before we
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  Speaker 2: even start, although I can't imagine many people are still
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  Speaker 2: listening because I have completely obliterated anything that might happen
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  Speaker 2: on this podcast by coming right out of the box
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  Speaker 2: and saying it's not gonna deliver. But here was my concept.
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  Speaker 2: I go see the Michael Jackson movie. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm into MJ all of a sudden, I'm listening to
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  Speaker 2: his music over the weekend, and I say, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pull a couple things that are Michael Jackson
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  Speaker 2: related for the with Stu Gotts and Hawkman podcast, And
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately I can't find the two things that I really
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  Speaker 2: wanted to play. One of them was and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you even remember this. Do you remember Jermaine
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  Speaker 2: Jackson being a guest on the show.
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  Speaker 3: I remember I remember him being a guest on the show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember how we arrived at Jermaine Jackson, so.
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  Speaker 2: So I think think he had a book or an
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  Speaker 2: album that he wanted to promote. But something fascinating happened
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  Speaker 2: with Jermaine Jackson because he was very similar to his
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  Speaker 2: brother that entire family. They're weird. Yeah, they're weird family
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  Speaker 2: They've got It's one of the things you have to
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  Speaker 2: do when you're watching the Michael Jackson movies. You have
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  Speaker 2: to set aside the weirdness that you know about him
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  Speaker 2: and just kind of enjoy the music.
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  Speaker 3: But the entirety of the family hawk just so we're clear.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they were such big stars at such young ages,
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  Speaker 3: it's almost impossible to live some sort of a normal life,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, and in a just a I think a
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  Speaker 2: terrible father and not a great home life. And and
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  Speaker 2: Jermaine Jackson ended up being I think on the strange
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  Speaker 2: level of Michael. And so we did an interview with him,
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  Speaker 2: and do you remember how it ended.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't know how to hang up a phone.
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  Speaker 3: What that's? What?
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  Speaker 5: That? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And I cannot find it. I don't know why I
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  Speaker 2: can't find but it was the end of the interview
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  Speaker 2: and it was kind of like he had lost interest
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  Speaker 2: in the interview. I remember he dan just kind of
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  Speaker 2: being gobsmacked at the end of the interview because it
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  Speaker 2: sounded like he just laid his phone down on the
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  Speaker 2: counter and went about his business. If anyone can find
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  Speaker 2: this audio. Mike Ryan may have it. This may be
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  Speaker 2: like right as I was getting ready to leave, and
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  Speaker 2: so all the archives were switching over. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I can't find it, but if anyone remembers it, you
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  Speaker 2: can radio Mark Hackman on Instagram is the best way
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  Speaker 2: to get a hold of me. But you can em
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  Speaker 2: me if you have it, or if you know who
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  Speaker 2: might have it, or if you even remember it. But
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  Speaker 2: Jermaine Jackson at the end of the interview never said goodbye,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of you could tell put a phone down
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  Speaker 2: and then like started making a smoothie or something.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very dangerous game depending on the next thing
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna do. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, but I can't find it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's well, Taylor's looking for it. He is, what
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  Speaker 3: are you doing with the sharpie? Took the sharpie out
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  Speaker 3: of his mouth for a second. He did that hark off.
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  Speaker 2: But the no Jermaine Jacksons on that I've gotten to
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  Speaker 2: that that's what I had originally intended. Yes, right, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I've gotten this request a number of times from dms
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  Speaker 2: from listeners to the podcast. Huh saying do you remember
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  Speaker 2: a song that you did where you know, in wanna
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  Speaker 2: be starting something. MJ's got Mama say mamasa ma makusa.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, you nailed that. Yes, well, I.
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  Speaker 2: Did a parody song. Do you remember Mohammed Massaquay?
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  Speaker 3: I do, yes, And I remember this song from.
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  Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns and I think it was a Rihanna
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  Speaker 2: song where she sampled Mama say ma Masama makusa. But
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  Speaker 2: somewhere in the song, I break out with Mama say
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  Speaker 2: mo Mohammed masa kwai because he had just had like
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  Speaker 2: two big games in a row. And I don't remember it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't find the song.
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  Speaker 3: Oh geez, I don't have it. I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 3: find anything.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure it was a parody of Rihanna,
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  Speaker 2: Please don't stop the music, and so I gotta mark
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  Speaker 2: that off. It was the other thing that I really
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  Speaker 2: wanted to get to.
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  Speaker 3: You always find that, sharpie, that's for sure, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: On this podcast. Yeah, So here's what we're stuck with
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  Speaker 2: because I'm fucking barreling ahead with Michael Jackson related Levotard
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  Speaker 2: Show with Stu gottson Hawkman. I could find one fake
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson call in. You know, ten years of archives
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  Speaker 2: that I have one, Okay, and it was about Nick
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  Speaker 2: Saban and it's not even very good. But I was
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  Speaker 2: just shocked that this is the only Michael Jackson related
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  Speaker 2: fake that I could find in the entire archive that
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  Speaker 2: I have. Go just for shits and giggles, go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and play this fake.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Jackson, You're on seven ninety.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna make a change for once. I won't lie,
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  Speaker 6: gonna sleep, bond Wood, gonna be a tough guy who
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  Speaker 6: don't wear a tie. As I turn up the brim
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  Speaker 6: on my tone Panama hat, I called the cody fast.
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  Speaker 6: If heat is melting my Terry nippleshy I says.
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  Speaker 4: All right, f.
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  Speaker 1: I am a one.
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  Speaker 6: Man free show, and Terry said, we go because she
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  Speaker 6: don't like Pompa. No, I'm lying to the fans and money.
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  Speaker 1: Edwin told Kys on my child, Oh.
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  Speaker 6: Shucks, I think a man of the schedule. It's the
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  Speaker 6: third king with a twelve gauge and.
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  Speaker 5: A better bad.
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  Speaker 6: You can look at myself, come on, yeah, you can
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  Speaker 6: look at myself. Where at.
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  Speaker 3: He really got us with that Pompaa line? He did Papa.
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  Speaker 2: Line was buddy, and then I like Dan at the end,
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  Speaker 2: just going come on.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's Dan saying enough enough enough of this song,
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  Speaker 3: Hawk enough. He's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Mark that off there. That was fake, Michael Jackson. The
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  Speaker 2: best we could do.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Now, Taylor has something here. Perhaps he found something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how.
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  Speaker 4: We have a development, a potential tease for next episode.
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  Speaker 2: Board up.
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  Speaker 4: Ricardo just looked at me, who's a lifelong fan of
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  Speaker 4: The Guitar Show, which loves it. He said, I might
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  Speaker 4: have that, Mama say song, and I go, well, and
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  Speaker 4: he goes on a hard drive somewhere in my house.
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  Speaker 3: God bless you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, listen, the truth of the matter is I may
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  Speaker 2: have it on a hard drive in my house as well.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't have the effort. I don't have the
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  Speaker 2: will to put in the effort to find it. But
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  Speaker 2: if you can find it, that would be ter because
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  Speaker 2: it's one of my best works ever. In fact, the
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  Speaker 2: next episode that I want to do, because I've stumbled
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  Speaker 2: into as I was looking for that some of my
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  Speaker 2: parody songs, ah, and I want to play some of
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  Speaker 2: them because some of them are absolutely brutal and some
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  Speaker 2: of them are really good. Yeah, but I want to
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  Speaker 2: revisit those. Okay, regardless, this is the Michael Jackson episode. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: So now I start frantically searching for the Jermaine Jackson thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I know I have to have the Jermaine
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  Speaker 2: Jackson because I remember just sitting there in amazement. We
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  Speaker 2: were like, does he know that he didn't hang up
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  Speaker 2: the phone, like he's still there and we were still
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  Speaker 2: talking to him. The only thing that I can find
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  Speaker 2: in the archives for Jermaine is a Germaine O'Neill drop.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, this is Jermaine O'Neill of the Indiana Faces. And
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why, but you listen to the Dan
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  Speaker 5: Levatar show.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go. That's the entire germane file.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, what are you checking with your show? RP? Now?
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  Speaker 2: What'd you just check it? So I marked off, I
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  Speaker 2: played the Germaine drop and I played Fichael.
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  Speaker 3: Think Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: But what I did stumble into in my search for
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  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson related content, yes, was the first ever appearance
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  Speaker 2: on the show by Don King.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, what.
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  Speaker 2: Don King in the movie? I had forgotten this? But
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  Speaker 2: Don King was the promoter for the Jackson's Victory tour,
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  Speaker 2: and so Michael didn't want a tour with his brothers anymore,
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  Speaker 2: and they had done that Victory album, which he didn't love.
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  Speaker 2: But this was going to be a big tour and
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  Speaker 2: Joe Jackson strong arm Michael essentially into doing one more
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  Speaker 2: tour with his brothers, and he didn't want to do
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  Speaker 2: with that. Remember that's the tour that was sponsored by
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  Speaker 2: Pepsi and Michael had a film that commercial for Pepsi
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  Speaker 2: and his hair caught on fire. But that was all
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  Speaker 2: Don King related. Don King local guy. I had been
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  Speaker 2: on the show a number of time, but we had
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  Speaker 2: not had him on yet, and he was coming on
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  Speaker 2: the show. I just found this to be fascinating. It's
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  Speaker 2: not that funny other than it's Don King talking, which
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  Speaker 2: is always entertaining. But he was suggesting on this interview
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  Speaker 2: with you and Dan that Joe Jackson should get a
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  Speaker 2: Nobel Peace Prize. Yeah, and as ridiculous as that, well
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  Speaker 2: it's not as ridiculous as my time, it's fucking ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Would get a Nobel Peace Prize.
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  Speaker 3: Don King would get a Nobel Peace Prize is patently absurd.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry that Joe Jackson, I was going to say.
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  Speaker 3: Because he was not a good guy, shoeless Joe Jackson
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  Speaker 3: was more deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize than Joe Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: How about that, I he cheated to what a world series?
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  Speaker 2: Here it is Don King suggesting Michael Jackson's dad get
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  Speaker 2: a Nobel Peace Prize, But it.
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  Speaker 5: All stems from that. I consider two Nobel Peace Prize winners,
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  Speaker 5: and I say that about Captain and Joseph Jackson, who
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  Speaker 5: were the parents of this iconic family in a super
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  Speaker 5: iconic Michael Jackson, because they raised nine kids, they had ten,
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  Speaker 5: they lost one. And so what Joseph Jackson did was
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  Speaker 5: a steel meal worker. He stayed there with his family,
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  Speaker 5: he worked with his wife.
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  Speaker 7: Who was ill, and he raised up these nine kids,
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  Speaker 7: and he trained them, and he educated them and disciplined them,
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  Speaker 7: loved them to death, introduced them to education, into enlightenment
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  Speaker 7: and religion.
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  Speaker 3: Did you just give Joe Jackson the Nobel Prize, the.
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  Speaker 5: Nobel Prize for being a black man in white America
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  Speaker 5: that could continue to hold a family together with nine
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  Speaker 5: kids from a steel meal job and to be able
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  Speaker 5: to love the discipline and to nurture and to grow
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  Speaker 5: a family of iconic circumstance.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not certain that's an actual Nobel Peace Prize category
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  Speaker 2: that Don King was referencing there, Yes, being a good parent.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you what, he made a great case for Joe
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  Speaker 2: Jackson being somebody that he wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, he also made me rethink whether or not Joe
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  Speaker 3: Jackson should actually get a Nobel Peace Price.
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  Speaker 2: Posthumously. Of course, yes, yes, but most people. So now
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  Speaker 2: I start going down because I can't find any Jackson stuff,
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  Speaker 2: just some tertiary stuff with Don King. But I start
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  Speaker 2: going down this rabbit hole of Don King stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: think everybody who listened to the show even casually knows
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  Speaker 2: that Don King drop because he got the name wrong.
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  Speaker 2: This is I mean, this is an iconic SoundBite from
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  Speaker 2: the Levattard show, The Don King Drop, all right, this.
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  Speaker 5: Is Don King. Only in America could a radio show
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  Speaker 5: be this bad. Don't worry, Dan, I'm with you, Dan,
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  Speaker 5: Leopod it's a bad radio station. What's what's in the name?
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  Speaker 2: Used to call him leotard?
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  Speaker 3: After that, I love that Don Camp pronounced his last name,
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  Speaker 3: and therefore the entire station is terrible. That means it's
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  Speaker 3: classic Don I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So, I don't know if a lot of people have
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  Speaker 2: heard this lesser known mispronunciation of Dan's name from Don
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  Speaker 2: King in that same interview. That was a drop we
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  Speaker 2: asked him to do after the interview. But during the
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  Speaker 2: interview he called him Dan the Batar, and I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know how he got that into his head,
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  Speaker 2: but he did it a number of times. But here
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  Speaker 2: is the one that jumps out at me, Don King
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  Speaker 2: calling him Dan the Batar.
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  Speaker 5: It's about America, man in the show is big, but
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  Speaker 5: it ain't big as America. But we gonna make it
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  Speaker 5: bigg as America because we got Dan Batad and we got.
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  Speaker 3: Diket, he announced to gods.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's a I don't know if Taylor
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  Speaker 2: will be able to put the picture on the podcast
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, but there's a picture of me, you, Dan
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  Speaker 2: and Don King that I sent to him that we
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  Speaker 2: can put on the on the YouTube feed or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen that picture? Stu Gots you remember that picture?
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  Speaker 3: Not in a long time?
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I remember the picture. I haven't seen it in a
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  Speaker 3: long time. And you get to show it to me
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'll hold it up to the camera.
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  Speaker 3: It is I mean, geez, wow, we look young, Don looks.
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  Speaker 2: Don King's still alive by the way, still living in
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  Speaker 2: South Florida. Incredible. Yes, anyway, that was Don King's first
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  Speaker 2: appearance on the show, and we actually sued him because
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  Speaker 2: he was so long winded. As you know, Don King
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  Speaker 2: is he's a promoter. Yes, yes, he's a promoter. He's
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  Speaker 2: maybe the greatest promoter in the history of promotion.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yes, I would maybe away from that and say
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  Speaker 3: he is the greatest promoter in the history of promoting.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean even that that. I mean
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  Speaker 2: you see him. He's played in this Michael Jackson movie
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  Speaker 2: and he's played exactly the way Don King. We all
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  Speaker 2: know him. But this is I like this because this
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  Speaker 2: is Don King getting sued. He's giving some long winded answer.
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  Speaker 2: And what happened was I sued him and he kept
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  Speaker 2: on talking, and I sued him again right as he
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  Speaker 2: was ending, and it caught Dan off guard because the
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  Speaker 2: sue came at the time where it was time for
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Dan to talk. Dan breaks breaks character a little bit.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Here's how that went.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: He's the man who are dedicated and committed to me
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: in five time. Anyway came around the world. We gonna
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: find out on Saturday Night because all of these guys,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: look at the way he come in it. So, I
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: mean all of us is over forty and give us
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: all a chance.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: So an ill timed sue, but perfectly time Sue.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, King starts the giggle as well.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he doesn't know what he's laughing at.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Hoc.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I mean so.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Obviously my Mark Hawkman executive producer mind at this point
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: during the interview, the first interview with Don King again,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: he became a fairly regular visitor to the show.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Dan loved boxing, he loved having Don on. Don most
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: of the times was a good guest, but always had
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: a big fight to promote. Dan was weird about boxing.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: He turned into like Larry Merchant, Like the second there
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: was a big match that was announced, all of a sudden,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: he became the biggest boxing analyst on the planet.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Was weird man. Yeah. Don King always had stuff to promote,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: and because he was in South Florida, you know, he
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: would lean on South Florida radio and he realized that
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: there was a good audience with the Levotard show. This
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: is it just because I was searching for Michael Jackson
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: stuff and it took me down to the Don King
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: rabbit hole. This is is Don King talking about a
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: hamburger being like Michael Jackson.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: The hamburger is colorless. It is something that you eat
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: for nursement, for the soul and the body. And so
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: a good hamburger is like a Michael Jackson song. Hey,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: get down with it. I'll be there. Just call my
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: name Hamburger.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Here I am, and I remember using that. Call my
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: name Hamburger, and there I am.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, what are you checking off?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: As I explained in the beginning, because I only have
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: one thing, I checked off every box area on what
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I considered maybe our worst episode yet. But what happened
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: was as this interview was happening, I think I started
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to realize as an executive producer, I think I have
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a new big open here. There's so many good Don
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: King moments going on in this interview. We sued them
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Mike Jackson's a hamburger, Leotard, Dan the buitar. I just
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: there was a lot going on. So I did end
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: up turning it into a big open, which I think
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: we used in regular rotation of the Big Opens for
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: like several months.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: So a new big open was a big deal. Back
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: in the day, Hawk would announce to us that he
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: had a brand new Big Open. They were usually based
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: around a singular character on the show. Chuck Norris was
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: one of them, and he would turn it in, Yes,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: he would turn it into a spectacular Big Open. And
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: if anyone talked during the Big Open the initial airing
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: of the Big Open, me and Dan would yell at
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: them because we wanted to hear it, because Hawk is
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: a master.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Well I had, but I had to warn you guys,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: because every time I would play a big Open, if
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the guys had heard it a number of times like
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: that was just another two minutes that everybody could get
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: ready for the show. And so I would be like, hey,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: new open, nobody talk, New Open, nobody talk, and I'd
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: be warning you guys, new Open, nobody toal so you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: guys can react off it because you've never heard it before.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: And if I'm being honest here, and I rarely am,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: but if I'm being honest here, I will tell you
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I was always the guy talking.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: So I was sitting in there, he's talking, He's cut
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: his hanger steak. You can't get a word in that here.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: It is the don King Big Open in our Michael
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Jackson celebration somehow.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Attention. This is the Dan Lebata Show.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: The show is big, but it ain't big as America.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: But we gonna make it bigg as America because we
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: got Dan be goonden.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Attention, Dan Levatide.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Remember the animal. Remember Pearl Harbor. Do you surrender? Do
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: you surrender? I have not yet begin to faint.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: This is the real base.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Give me liberty, your depth. We love America, We love
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: the American people. We have to change the ways of
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: the American people. How do you do that? Michael Checker stays,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: look in the mirror, Look in the mirror, and then
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: you will find out that if you can make that change,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: everybody can make that change. The hamburger is colorless. It
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: is something that you eat for nursing, for the soul
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: in the body. And so a good hamburger is like
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: a Michael Jackson's song. Let's get down with it. I'll
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: be there. Just call my name, Hamburger, and here I am.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I am now an ambassador to Israel for a peace
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: in the Middle East. Changes in the air, and you
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: hear it right here on seven ninety Hamburger, and here
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I am. We couldn't be no bigger than being with
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Dan Lebotade seven ninety. The Ticket with stut Gott said,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: now let's carry the word. Let's become apostles for the
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: greatest nation in the world called America. Black and white
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: are like walking together works.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Here's Dan Levozard and Studia send Sports Talk seven ninety.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: That sick is.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: He's ripping the piece of paper.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: It's all I got.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: What an open? I gotta tell you.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I mean the great open.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, all your opens in general. It's a lesson to
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: producers out there how to get their host fired up
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: for doing a four hour talk show. It really is.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, your opens were legendary, man.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: But I really wanted to play Jermaine Jackson not knowing
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: how to hang up a phone in the Mohammed Massaquy.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yes song parody, Well tease it for next week because
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: bardout Ricardo was on it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: He's got a hard drive. It'd be great if he
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: finds it. That would be great if he finds it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: There's you know, so I want to get to these
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Hawkman parody songs in the next episode because there's a few.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: One of them, I don't know if you remember, remember
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Scott Stapp did that song Scott staff from from Creed
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: lived at Ellington. Yes, the Marlin song, yes, yeah, and
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: it was way overdone for a Marlin song. It was
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: way too Creed for like a baseball anthem. Yes, well,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the Creed songs were way to Creed and I spoofed it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I did. I did. What was it? Because his was
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: called Marlins Will Soar? Anyway, I listened to it and
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: it happened. I think it's a brilliant piece of work
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and it has thousands of views on uh on YouTube,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: but I want to get to that. But then, like
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: in the same breath, I found something that I did
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: when pat Riley returned as head coach, when when Shack
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: was there, and it was like it was an emin
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: m it was an eminem parody. Yeah, you know, guess
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: who's back. Riley's back, and it's I mean, it's so
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: cringe worthy bad that I'm hesitating to even play it
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: or not.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I have I have confirmed that stap song was indeed
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Marlins Will Soar? How about that?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens to Do you remember that tale? Are
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: you familiar with the Scott staff Marlins Will Soar? Like
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: theme song for the Fish?
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: No?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: This bordop Ricardo, remember it looks like he's nodding his head. Yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: he remembers it. Yeah, Yeah, it's a it is it's something.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: It's a banger.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a banger.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Anyway, tease, I'm just teasing it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: It's a.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Great Today's show.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: You won't strike out store.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Don't don't give it away. Sorry, don't give away my
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: next episode. Just I want this. I want this to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: be a shitty episode that stands on its own.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Listen, we had anger steak. That makes it an excellent episode.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Now you delivered on this episode. I didn't get to
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: bring anything to the table very much. Well, you brought
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: the open, you brought all the ton king sounds, so
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: you did fun.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Did you watch any of the uh Ronda Rousey Gina
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Carano fight on Netflix.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Over the weekend?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: No, what do you you mind?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: What time was that thing on?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well that was a good question after I watched it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: But that brings me to the greatest nicknames in boxing,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna let you out of here with some
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: nickname talk. If you want to hear something on the
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: with Stugats and Hawkman podcast, or if you just want
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to complain about today's episode, because you know, it's like
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I relived the best times of
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: my life when you guys do these episodes and I
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: love it and I can't thank you enough. And somebody,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: you know, they're gonna get their little push notification today
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: new episode has dropped and they're gonna gonna be listening
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to it, and it's just gonna be like Hamburger here
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I am and be like, what the fuck out of
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: all the stuff that they have to go through in
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: the archives. I ended up with Dan the Batar.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Let's set the bar really low and title the episode
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: worst episode we've ever done?
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: What do you think?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Do the opposite of what Don King would do?
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Don King would call this the great Actually, maybe maybe
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: do it in the vein of Don King?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: How about we title it no, no, no, I got a
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: good idea. Let's title it. Don't listen, but maybe maybe.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: It should be. This episode is so good, Hock and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Stu Gotts deserve a Nobel Peace Prize.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Done.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Let's do that. Let's set people are really high.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Totally up to you, Yeah, totally up to you. Taylor.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, Taylor, your call on this? Where are you leaning
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: right now? Taylor just out of curiosity.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Titling it with the worst episode ever.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, good, just to see what it does to the downloads.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Really, I mean, because if it says the worst episode ever, people,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to click more.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, right, of course, just like.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: This, except it really is. I think this is the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: worst episode we've ever done.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Though, right, No, No, We've done worse and we'll do worse.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know, I don't know we have. I
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: think all the episodes have been very I think this
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: one just I really after the Michael Jackson movie, I
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm gonna pull out that Jermaine Jackson
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: audio and that'll be funny. And yeah, yeah we got
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: couldn't find it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: It's all right, But.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I was already locked into doing the episode in my head.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: So and once you haven't locked in your head, Lord knows,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: we ain't going any other direction.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I am a bulldog when that man. When I am
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: entrenched in something, I am not easily unentrenched.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: You know that word.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you're acting like I know today if.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: There is something you want to hear on the podcast
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: or you just want to complain about this episode. Radio
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Miccachlan on Instagram. We do not end these episodes until
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Stucott's gets three nicknames, right, and since today was all
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: about Michael Jackson, I will give you boxers. These are
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: all box of course.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, makes sense because you can see how it all
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: fits together. Let's see, it's gonna be a tough one
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll start with Ronda Rousey. Hmm, not really Roy's nickname.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: No, I mean not really a boxer technically, more of
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: a fighter fighter. Yeah, I don't know her nickname.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I don't you know her nickname? Taylor?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: My guess would be rowdy.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Rowdy really, that's Roddy Piper's nickname.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Fair. Yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: We have a Caleb Williams George Gervin situation.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Here, right, And George Gervin deserves it. I don't care
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: whether he put a copyright on it. He patented. It's
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: George the iceman, gerving. Caleb cannot take that from him.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: What is he doing anyway?
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Ah, let's see here.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Mike Tyson, Iron, Hey, Iron, Mike, yes, Iron, Mike Sorry,
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Joe Frazier smoking, Joe very good?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And man, should I go difficult? Should I drag this
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: this thing out even more mercifully?
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: And I mean, go as long as you want. It's
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the worst episode we've ever done. How about the Thomas
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Hearns Thomas the Hitman Hearns.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Bingo, there you go.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, what was the other one you were debating? What
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: were you debating? What was the other one? I don't know.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: There was a bunch of like I was debating Muhammad Ali.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Hmmm.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Do you know Cashius Clay it was his real name.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: What is Ali's nickname?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You know, Taylor?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: My guess would be something along the lines of like
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: the Greatest Ever, the great Ones, the greatest.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: The greatest, all right, that's Michael Jordan. But anyway, Ray Robinson,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the Robber, Sugar.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Sugar, Ray Robinson, Ard Sugar.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: A couple of sugars cutting it out of that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got nothing, man, I'm sorry.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Raymon, you're doing and boom boom Raymoncini boom boom.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: How about fire?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah I got nothing.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't beat yourself up too much.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Why am I even doing this with Stu Gods and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Hawkman