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Jags Media Roundtable: Harvey, Shipley · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in to another Jaguars media round table. I'm J. P.
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  Speaker 1: Shadrick and the Jaguars face the New Orleans Saints this
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  Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock at t I A A. Bank Field.
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  Speaker 1: We've had a lot of different writers and broadcasters on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast throughout training camp in the early parts of
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  Speaker 1: the season, but we've got two of the newest guys
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  Speaker 1: on the beat this year. And this is how the
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  Speaker 1: business has changed, and we're going to podcasts and websites
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  Speaker 1: and social media. Maven's here, I mean, no pun intended.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Uh. Demetrius Harvard from Lockdown Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: what's up man? How are you? I'm doing great. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you having for having me on. Um, it's been
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  Speaker 1: an incredible experience so far being here coming the Jaguars. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty much a dream come true at least. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's been good to have you on the beat
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  Speaker 1: for sure. John Shipley from Jaguar Maven, what's up man?
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  Speaker 1: I doing doing good? I really appreciate you having me
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  Speaker 1: on as well. And you know, just like Demetrius, you
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  Speaker 1: know I got here. I was telling you just about
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  Speaker 1: week one and it's been a all win, but it's
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  Speaker 1: been an enjoyable win. Oh, there's been a whirlwind for
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  Speaker 1: this Jaguars team. Let's touch a little bit out on
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  Speaker 1: your background before we get to Jaguars football, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, it's hard on social media to say hey,
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  Speaker 1: I did this and put your resume out there and
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  Speaker 1: do all this. But you guys do have a past though. Demetrius,
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  Speaker 1: how did you get involved here with luck on Jaguars. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it began a couple of years ago, probably
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  Speaker 1: in two seventeen, right after I graduated from f a U.
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  Speaker 1: I actually didn't graduate with anything in journalism or broadcasting
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  Speaker 1: our communications. I didn't really know what I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do after, so I just started writing. I said, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I love football, I love sports. I just
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  Speaker 1: want to, you know, actually put my thoughts out there
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  Speaker 1: more than just on Twitter. So I met this guy
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  Speaker 1: named Zach Goodall and he introduced me to Locked on Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: He told me to come on and it's gonna be great.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna have a podcast, we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a website. You can write, you can learn um. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: it's snowballed from there. A couple of years later this summer,
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  Speaker 1: I just, I guess I took a leap, you would say,
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  Speaker 1: and I applied for credentials. I wanted to come in
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  Speaker 1: here and see exactly how it's gonna be. And now
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  Speaker 1: I'm here. Pretty cool, man, Pretty cool. Now. The Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: Maven stuff through Sports Illustrated is relatively new. And what
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  Speaker 1: did you find out about that? Yeah, I think I
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  Speaker 1: had first found out about, you know, Maven and Sports
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  Speaker 1: Illustrator trying to get localized, you know, beat reporters with
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  Speaker 1: each NFL team. I found out about that, probably didn't
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  Speaker 1: right in the middle of the preseason, so it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: long at all before the season started. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: once once the ball got rolling. Actually coincidentally, the same
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  Speaker 1: with him, Zach Goodal, I've known for years. I used
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  Speaker 1: to write for sp Nations Big Cat Country and Zach
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  Speaker 1: and I were co co co workers there and Zach
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  Speaker 1: does Gator Maven for Sports Illustrating and he told me, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they need a Jaguars beat reporter. I know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you've kind of done the same thing in
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  Speaker 1: the past. And he helped me get the ball rolling there,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it really has been you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, kind of hundred my is an hour because
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  Speaker 1: like you said, it is really brand new, but it's
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  Speaker 1: it's been fun and uh, it's just the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: come in here and bring localized coverage for Jaguar fans
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. I'm spokes illustrated. That's probably been the coolest
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  Speaker 1: thing for me. A little bit different than Palacco. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit, just a little bit basis, which
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  Speaker 1: is good. Glad to have you guys here, and we're
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to to reading and listening to you guys
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  Speaker 1: throughout the season. Here. Let's get to football, shall we.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously the big news nationally this week will be the
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  Speaker 1: Jayalen Ramsey news when the owner says he's playing, the
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  Speaker 1: injury report says he's questionable. We'll see. I guess what
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  Speaker 1: Sunday brings. What is your guys gut on what happens
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  Speaker 1: this week with twenty um it's it's it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: hard to say, but it's not. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: I I really don't think he's gonna play, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna play because each week it seems
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  Speaker 1: like he's I guess, I don't know if you would
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  Speaker 1: say progressing, but he's limited on Wednesday doesn't really do much.
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  Speaker 1: Womened on Thursday doesn't really do much, Women on Friday
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really do much. I I just can't see how
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's gonna turn around and then play, right,
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  Speaker 1: what about you? Yeah, my gut when when I first
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  Speaker 1: saw the shot Koun interview, my like, my initial thinking was, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you know he is going to play what
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  Speaker 1: you know, why else would really, you know, you make
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  Speaker 1: that kind of statement. But the more time has gone on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of feeling, like you know as well, that
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  Speaker 1: he's not gonna sit up on Sunday, just because we
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  Speaker 1: especially you know, you saw Justina and with the ESPN,
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  Speaker 1: she's one of the more plugged in people, especially with
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, and you know she said kind of right
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  Speaker 1: after like, hey, he's still gonna listen to his body,
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  Speaker 1: And when you hear those kind of things listen to
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  Speaker 1: your body, that kind of makes you think it's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of, you know, the player's call. So just
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  Speaker 1: my gut is that despite that, I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: plays on Sunday. But obviously it'd be massive for them
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  Speaker 1: if you did this is this is the kind of
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  Speaker 1: matchup you you draft Jale Rams before. Yeah, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the last three weeks with you know, his dask being questionable,
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  Speaker 1: this is the most they've needed him, you know, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no about it. We'll see and then if he doesn't,
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  Speaker 1: then well then what you know, that's the big question
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  Speaker 1: mark we have in the weeks ahead if if this
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  Speaker 1: continues down the stretch when the owner comes out and
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  Speaker 1: says he thinks he's gonna expects him to play exactly
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, at one point, you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: been thinking about is this wasn't something they could really
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  Speaker 1: prepare for, you know, before the season. So you know
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  Speaker 1: their backup plan of you know, Trey Harden and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: that's something that it's a true backup plan, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's they have to roll that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no other real options. So this kind of a
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  Speaker 1: curveball to them. So really the whole what do we
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  Speaker 1: do from here? Thing? I think they're kind of doing it,
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  Speaker 1: you know by really by here day by day. Well
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  Speaker 1: he he he hasn't missed a game or hadn't missed
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  Speaker 1: a game in his whole career until until a couple
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  Speaker 1: of weeks ago, So there's no way they thought this season.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, if we don't have Jalen Ramsey, I
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  Speaker 1: could see maybe a j Boya because he's had the
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  Speaker 1: injury history, and I'm sure they're a little bit confident
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  Speaker 1: in Trey Hernon, but there's no way they anticipated that
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  Speaker 1: he was gonna be a long term guy, especially this
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  Speaker 1: early into the season. So this will be an interesting
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  Speaker 1: story line that you know, either way you lean on it.
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  Speaker 1: It's um, it's top of mine. It will be the
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  Speaker 1: next few weeks. Demetrius Harvey from Locked on Jaguars, John
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  Speaker 1: Shipley from Jaguar Mayven Twitter handles. Please my Twitter handle.
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  Speaker 1: It's at Underscore John Underscore Shipley. Okay, thank you. At
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  Speaker 1: Demetrius there you go, give him a follow. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't already, where have you been? They've been here for
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  Speaker 1: months already. Um. The offense here, you know, the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line took some heat last week. Andrew Norwell especially, and
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  Speaker 1: on one of our programs earlier in the week, Tony
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  Speaker 1: was he was defending him. It's only a couple of plays,
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  Speaker 1: but guess what, they only had one hit on the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback two sacks last week. The offense got five hundred yards.
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  Speaker 1: This is a group that has taken some criticism. They've
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  Speaker 1: had some injuries and stuff, Cam Robinson coming back and
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  Speaker 1: the rotating right guards and a lot of moving parts
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  Speaker 1: this year. But you know, for an offense is moving
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  Speaker 1: the ball, it kind of starts up front, right and
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  Speaker 1: there in the grand scheme of things, it hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: that bad or my way off here. Absolutely, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: at least in the first half of games, I feel
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  Speaker 1: as though the offensive line has you know, struggled a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But in the second half they've been a
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  Speaker 1: completely different animal. I don't know exactly what occurs or
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  Speaker 1: you know, how they're going to um combat their first
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  Speaker 1: half was, but for now they're they're improving at least
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  Speaker 1: in the second half, especially in the past protection the run,
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  Speaker 1: in the run game and and so on. So it's
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  Speaker 1: striking how different it is, right it's and and you
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  Speaker 1: would think it'd be the opposite, just in terms of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're playing from behind most of these times.
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  Speaker 1: You wouldn't think that rushing yards would pop off in
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  Speaker 1: the second half like they have them, right exactly, So
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  Speaker 1: like in the first half of games, in the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the first five games of the season that they've had
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  Speaker 1: a hundred eighty one yards rushing and total total, and
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  Speaker 1: people look at that and they're like, well, what's going
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  Speaker 1: on In the second half, They've had five hundred and
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  Speaker 1: nine yards rushing. That's it's astronomical the differ princes between
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  Speaker 1: the two. So, uh, they're doing something right in the
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  Speaker 1: second half at least, what are they doing right? I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure. I guess, uh, grinding the tough yards out
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  Speaker 1: in the first half and getting the the defense tired.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's helping Winter from Net break off the big runs,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, just performing better adjustments. That's interesting and
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  Speaker 1: how the adjustments happened and all that, and if they
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  Speaker 1: could they just make that a full game. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's part of how they run the ball though, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they run in the line and Leonnard has
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  Speaker 1: gotta hit some guys and you get two or three
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  Speaker 1: yards and two or three yards and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden you get ten yards and forty yards and yards.
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  Speaker 1: And that's really, you know, kind of been his calling card,
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  Speaker 1: you know, even since going back to l s U.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's a powerful guy who will he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: punish you on each tackle. So as the game progresses,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of hope, you know, the defenses are a
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  Speaker 1: little less willing to tackle him. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: best example of that was the Denver game. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you saw the second half. It just seemed like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of these defensive backs did not want to tackle him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in space right, I wouldn't either. Let's flip
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  Speaker 1: it around to the defense now, and we've we've we've
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  Speaker 1: seen Unique and go Way battle through some hamstring stuff
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  Speaker 1: luring the year. I was talking to Josh Allen today
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room and he said he had Yahn.
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  Speaker 1: Last week was really the first time he was a
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent and showed up with a couple of sacks
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  Speaker 1: and a tackle for lost. One of them was a
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  Speaker 1: free sack and all that either way. He got home.
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  Speaker 1: Um his hold out the start of the year, all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff hasn't really been in the news lately. He's
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  Speaker 1: just playing through this thing. But if it continues that
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  Speaker 1: the track it was the first four weeks, then he
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  Speaker 1: might not be happy once contract time comes around. It's
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  Speaker 1: important in these next few weeks for him to really
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  Speaker 1: crank up at least absolutely, especially considering the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you know, he kind of took a bet on himself
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  Speaker 1: coming into this season, you know, playing you know, on
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  Speaker 1: that smaller deal, when reports are coming out that they
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  Speaker 1: had had offered him a deal that you know, I
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  Speaker 1: guess he did not think was appropriate for him. But
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  Speaker 1: like you said, these next few weeks are really pivotal
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  Speaker 1: because when you look at it, you look at the
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  Speaker 1: snaps of the players that they have playing the season
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  Speaker 1: that are not supposed to be here next season. He's
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  Speaker 1: really the only one. Everybody else, like the the core
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  Speaker 1: for next year's team is really here. The only real
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  Speaker 1: question marks are Yonick because you know, he's his contracts
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  Speaker 1: up after this year, and then obviously Grammy's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a question mark until we get a resolution there. But
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  Speaker 1: for him, I can't think of a player that these
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  Speaker 1: next you know, really eleven games are more important for
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  Speaker 1: on this team. Didn't gock Way, because you know, if
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  Speaker 1: he plays like he did against the Carolina Panthers, he
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  Speaker 1: could end up being, you know, that happy guy that
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned at the end of the season. And I
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  Speaker 1: think honestly that his whole thing with battling through the hamstring,
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  Speaker 1: I think if anything, that earned him more favor with
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  Speaker 1: the team. Then you know, some fans might think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you saw a lot of fans asking, you know, where's
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  Speaker 1: that production and stuff? But the team, the coaches, his teammates,
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  Speaker 1: they've seen a guy that's you know, out there grinding
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  Speaker 1: it out regardless of injuries. Remember Calaius told me after
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  Speaker 1: the Tennessee game that he was basically playing on one
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  Speaker 1: leg and how much they appreciated that, you know, as
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  Speaker 1: a as a teammate. So I think, you know, while
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  Speaker 1: some fans may look at a production and ask, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on, I think the people inside the building,
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  Speaker 1: I think they appreciate, you know, what he's brought more
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  Speaker 1: than a lot might understand. And he's an ultimate team player.
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  Speaker 1: He Uh. I went up to him yesterday and I
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  Speaker 1: asked him, you know, how does it feel to break
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  Speaker 1: the seal so to speak, you know, with the sacks
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  Speaker 1: you know you've got one got too, And he just said,
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  Speaker 1: I'll gore to God. And he thinks that he thinks
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  Speaker 1: is his Uh, his teammates were putting him in that position.
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  Speaker 1: So just just seeing the differences in him and like
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  Speaker 1: maybe some other players, it's it's amazing how how much
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  Speaker 1: he's improved. And and how much his teammates respect him.
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  Speaker 1: And and and it just goes to show how much he
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  Speaker 1: respects his teammates. And I don't think he's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that's thinking for himself like, oh, I have to get
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  Speaker 1: ten more sacks or I'm not gonna get this contract.
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  Speaker 1: I really think that he just as an ultimate team player,
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  Speaker 1: just wants to get better. And when and when actually
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  Speaker 1: wrote an article, yes, you know, saying how much you
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  Speaker 1: know they value his team first mentality after both a
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: Dug Morown and Todd Wash talked about this week, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: at one point I made in there was this is
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  Speaker 1: the guy that was a third round pick a few
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and he's basically has done everything right in
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  Speaker 1: those four years and he's coming in here and playing
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  Speaker 1: through an injury. That's kind of the you know, best
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  Speaker 1: case scenario for when you take a third round guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's productive, he does everything right, he gets better,
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  Speaker 1: and he's a team first guy. So I think, really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you consider you know, home run draft
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  Speaker 1: picks that aren't obvious, I think he's one of has
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  Speaker 1: to come to buy. He said the fantastic He's always
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  Speaker 1: been that guy, even from the day he walked in
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  Speaker 1: the door after the draft, and he's always been in
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  Speaker 1: a locked in football player, loves the business. I think
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  Speaker 1: he just loves being around in this building and loves
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: football every day. Bigger concern for the Jaguars defense Camara
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  Speaker 1: in the run game or Michael Thomas in the passing game.
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  Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Um. Last week they were horrible,
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  Speaker 1: I guess he would say so, so this week you
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  Speaker 1: have to think that they're gonna shore up that part
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  Speaker 1: of the game. The major focus this week will be
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  Speaker 1: our Michael Thomas, his ability, his uh, what's the word,
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  Speaker 1: his his strength going against these corners. If Jalen Ramsey
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  Speaker 1: doesn't play, going against a j boya, he's not really
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  Speaker 1: a physical guy. Going again, straight Herndon, He's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a physical guy. But you know he's only a second
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  Speaker 1: year player, undrafted. That's gonna be definitely the person to
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  Speaker 1: watch for Sunday. Thomas hasn't dropped a ball year. That's
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  Speaker 1: amazing to think right now. I mean, you look at
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  Speaker 1: his numbers, even with you know, Drew Brees missing most
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  Speaker 1: of the season, his numbers haven't really dropped off at all.
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  Speaker 1: You know, with Teddy Bridgewater, he's still going out there
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  Speaker 1: and dominating games. But I'm actually a little bit on
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  Speaker 1: the flip side. As dangerous as Thomas is, I still
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  Speaker 1: think Kimara is the guy that the Jaguars are gonna
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  Speaker 1: need to hone in on. I think it's easy Zier
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  Speaker 1: to isolate the damage that a receiver can do versus
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  Speaker 1: the damage that a running back can do. And just
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  Speaker 1: considering the fact that he hurts teams both as a
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  Speaker 1: runner and a receiver. You know, he doesn't have many
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  Speaker 1: true one yard rushing games, but he has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of games where he has over a hundred, fifty hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixty yards of offense, just because he can hurt
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  Speaker 1: you in both areas, and just due to the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he presents a lot of the same things that
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  Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey gave the defense problems with last week. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's elusive, he's tough to bring down space, he kind
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  Speaker 1: of just bounces off of guys, and he's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that if you give him that one, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: little sliver space, he's going to break it off for
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  Speaker 1: a big play. So I think when you look at
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  Speaker 1: those two, both of them, obviously you know a causes
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  Speaker 1: for concerns. But regardless of if Ramsey's out there on
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  Speaker 1: Thomas or not, I think Camara is going to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the bigger, bigger problem. I'm kind of with you,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with the way they played against the
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  Speaker 1: run last week and the way this guy can play.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he is tough to stop. Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: He Kamar Kamar is definitely a three. But but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what just what kind of luck is that
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  Speaker 1: a Christian McCaffrey one weekend and Camarata next. We every
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  Speaker 1: week it happens. So this week the Saints come to
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