Latest / Coffee People Podcast / Stephanie Welter-Krause, Founder of Swelter Coffee
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- 0:00And I, I appreciate you're here. So without too much further ado,
- 0:04I'll kind of read my little intro here and say hello.
- 0:08And that'll be the first part of our show.
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- 0:48If you haven't poured yourself a cup of coffee, now is the time
- 0:52to get started. Our guest today is Stephanie
- 0:54Walter Krause, I hope I said that correctly.
- 0:57The founder of Swelter Coffee, which you can find
- 0:59online@sweltercoffee.com. Stephanie, welcome to the Coffee
- 1:04People podcast. Hello, thank you.
- 1:07It has been a couple of minutes since I've done one of these
- 1:11recordings. I'm always a little nervous for
- 1:13the first episode of a new season, so I appreciate you
- 1:17being here today. I'm hoping we can get started by
- 1:21Let Us Know where Swelter Coffee is, what it is, and you know
- 1:25what it is that your role there is.
- 1:28Sure, sure. So Swelter Coffee Roasters is
- 1:32currently based in the Chicago area as of last August.
- 1:37I moved out here from the Bay Area in California.
- 1:40That's where I started Swelter Coffee.
- 1:43I am the owner and sole runner. So far it's still just me doing
- 1:49all the things and I really started it the business out of a
- 1:56passion for coffee and a mission to make the world better.
- 1:59So my the value and the driver behind Swelter Coffee is to
- 2:04support women coffee producers and to promote sustainability
- 2:08throughout the coffee industry and our consumerism as a whole.
- 2:13Right away, I'm going to jump ahead and you know, kind of the
- 2:15notes that I sent you, but there's a, a mission statement
- 2:19on your website, Coffee by Women for Everyone.
- 2:23And I'm wondering what does that mean?
- 2:26What does being a woman in coffee mean to you?
- 2:28Why is that such an important component that you put it right
- 2:31there on the front of the first thing people see you when they
- 2:34go to find you? Sure.
- 2:36Yeah. So it really was more about my
- 2:41sourcing practices than me. And in itself the, the
- 2:47inspiration between the inspiration for Swelter Coffee
- 2:51was really this intersectionality of gender
- 2:57equity and sustainability. I just happened to be really
- 3:01into coffee at the time and was sort of toying with the idea of
- 3:07doing a little bit more serious. I was doing, I was roasting for,
- 3:11for as a hobby for friends and family and, and colleagues for
- 3:14many years before that really it started when my previous career
- 3:22in design really focused on environmental sustainability.
- 3:26And so I learned a lot about supply chains with different
- 3:32industries because I'd work with a lot of different or
- 3:36businesses, big Fortune 500 organizations or small
- 3:41nonprofits, etcetera. I'd learned a lot about supply
- 3:44chains and sort of the breadth of how sustainability touches
- 3:48our lives and everything we do. So anyway, there was really just
- 3:53this connection between the women producing all of our
- 3:57world's food and the lack of equity and support that they get
- 4:01and receive and how supporting women as in regards to gaining
- 4:09equal training, equal education, equal funding sources,
- 4:14resources. We could produce a lot more food
- 4:18in our world without having to degrade any more land.
- 4:21And that was through a different the work by a really amazing
- 4:25organization called Project Drawdown.
- 4:28Me being passionate about the coffee industry, that was sort
- 4:31of my gateway into kind of creating something that could
- 4:35have a positive impact and unite 2 of my passions, which is
- 4:41gender equity and sustainability and sort of that kind of came
- 4:44with my point of view and coffee.
- 4:47Well, that kind of brings me back a little bit to how did
- 4:51this passion for coffee get started in the 1st place?
- 4:53I mean, do you have an experience that kind of set you
- 4:56down this path or a memory of coffee in your life that made
- 4:59you start thinking about it as more than just a function of
- 5:02waking up in the morning? Yeah, You know, coffee, as long
- 5:08as I can remember, has had played some role in my life when
- 5:12I was really a lot younger. You know, my family drink coffee
- 5:15in the mornings. I remember getting up and my mom
- 5:17would be making coffee so we'd have the smell of, you know,
- 5:19kind of a Folgers like experience every morning.
- 5:22And that was always a bit nostalgic.
- 5:25And I think I became a coffee consumer probably in my teens.
- 5:31I grew up in the Northwest, so in the in the 1990s.
- 5:35So the coffee house scene was sort of the thing, you know,
- 5:39teens would do and, you know, you just go to the coffee
- 5:43houses. That was sort of kind of that
- 5:45culture that came out of the 90s.
- 5:46And so for me, it was just always something I loved.
- 5:50I loved going to coffee shops and hanging out at coffee shops
- 5:54and, you know, consuming coffee. And so that was just sort of a,
- 5:58never really thought beyond that part of it until I became an
- 6:04adult. I kind of, I categorized myself
- 6:08and my habits somewhat along the lines of a maker mindset.
- 6:12I like to figure out how to do things and do them myself.
- 6:14And so I discovered you can roast coffee at home, which just
- 6:20blew my mind, 'cause I, I make my bread, I make my cheese, I
- 6:24make all the other things, you know, And I'm like, well, why am
- 6:26I not roasting my own coffee? How was this possible?
- 6:30So that's sort of piqued my interest.
- 6:33So I went down that rabbit hole and when I started roasting my
- 6:36own coffee in my oven in my apartment in Oakland, CA, I was
- 6:43trying to achieve the the dark full body coffee that I was kind
- 6:48of used to that I kind of would always drink.
- 6:50And it was through the process of buying beans from different
- 6:56origins, just trying to explore and have fun and roasting in my
- 6:59oven that I just naturally got lighter and lighter in my roast
- 7:04levels as I could taste different things.
- 7:06And, and kind of really birthed my appreciation for more of the
- 7:12lighter and medium roasts that we we find nowadays in this
- 7:16third wave coffee industry and 4th wave coffee industry.
- 7:20So it was really a natural organic process and I just fell
- 7:24in love with it. So of course, I did it for what,
- 7:288 years before I started the business.
- 7:30Something like that. Yeah.
- 7:32It's just something I really love doing.
- 7:34I just want to point out, you just said that you make your own
- 7:37cheese. I'm from Wisconsin and I don't
- 7:39make my own cheese and I like making things.
- 7:43That's incredible. I wouldn't even know where to
- 7:44begin with that. You mentioned that you did this
- 7:47for eight years before kind of starting a business.
- 7:49That means you had something else going on.
- 7:51You earlier you said visual design.
- 7:53You brought that up. Did that make it harder or
- 7:56easier to come up with a name and a branding having kind of
- 7:59that background and design harder?
- 8:01Oh my. Goodness.
- 8:03It is. So hard to be your own client.
- 8:06Of course I do all the my own branding and and illustration
- 8:11and web design and everything. It's been really challenging.
- 8:15It is really hard to be your own clients and I think for me, like
- 8:18when I work with with clients myself, I still do design work.
- 8:23I kind of get after hearing about their story and what they
- 8:26want to do with whatever project it is, I start getting visual
- 8:30ideas and references, etcetera. But for my own brand, I really
- 8:34didn't have a clear vision going into it for the branding, but I
- 8:40had a clear mission for the company and how I wanted to
- 8:44start building the company. So that for me came was just,
- 8:48you know, I have this gut check and that's I run with it, but
- 8:53the visuals were really challenging.
- 8:55So when I when I launched, I kind of just kept it simple.
- 8:58I did just simple typography. I tried to use lots of color
- 9:01because I just really like color and I played around with a
- 9:04couple different things. I just tried to keep it simple
- 9:07and then last year is when I went down the rabbit hole of
- 9:12actually trying to design it with a little bit more intense
- 9:15and I landed on the illustration, which is now on
- 9:18the front of the bag, really trying to elevate the mission of
- 9:24supporting women. So I wanted that to become more
- 9:26apparent in when people see the brand other than the tagline.
- 9:31The tagline also came accidentally, Coffee by women
- 9:34for everyone. It actually came about, I think
- 9:38when I was doing a pop up and people would make funny
- 9:40comments. Oh, but I'm a man.
- 9:42Can I drink it too, you know? And I was like, well, yes, it's
- 9:47yeah, women make the coffee and produce the coffee.
- 9:49Doesn't mean you have to be women to consume the coffee.
- 9:51So that's kind of where that came from.
- 9:53It was just really in a concise way to to frame it.
- 9:58I can hear just about every man in my family saying that exact
- 10:03thing at a farmers markets. I'm sorry for that.
- 10:06Oh, no, that's OK. I know.
- 10:08It's just, you know, people are kind of being silly.
- 10:10And I mean, especially when you come up on something that maybe
- 10:13was a little unexpected or you aren't sure about or you don't
- 10:16know about, you just kind of make remarks.
- 10:17So not a big deal. Well, it's a confident
- 10:20statement. I just want to say that like
- 10:21it's something that when I read it, I said, oh, this is an
- 10:24identity that they that they understand that they are not
- 10:28shying away from. And I think that makes people
- 10:32pause because there's so few things that we feel super
- 10:35confident about in our life, and we don't always see that in our
- 10:38branding. Well, thank you.
- 10:40I really appreciate that. That is kind of why it really
- 10:45rose to the forefront and the previous branding and the and
- 10:48the current branding which it's now in a script previously, I
- 10:53actually have it here. I don't know if you've seen it,
- 10:55but it was just like big text, you know?
- 11:00And the script is actually done by a really good friend of mine
- 11:04who does a lot of really beautiful lettering.
- 11:06So yeah, that phrase just really, it really, it says it
- 11:11all. It's this is coffee by women.
- 11:13But it's for everyone to consume and to appreciate and to love
- 11:16and enjoy. And it's supposed to represent,
- 11:20you know, everyone having access to high quality, ethically
- 11:25driven, delicious coffee. It's not just for the elite.
- 11:29It's not just for people with fancy coffee makers.
- 11:32It's for everyone and anyone who wants to dive in and explore and
- 11:37taste it So. I think that's commendable and
- 11:41the fact that you believe in the taste and the flavor and you're
- 11:44willing to put it out in the world is is kind of the next
- 11:46step of that. You mentioned earlier you moved
- 11:49from the Bay Area to the Chicagoland area.
- 11:53This is your first winter out there.
- 11:56How has it been so far? It's about 15° outside right
- 12:01now. Oh, so balmy. 2 yeah, you know
- 12:07it's still sort of novel and and fun we've got a bunch of snow.
- 12:11I have a 7 year old, so of course it's really awesome to
- 12:15see the kid just loving the snow and playing in the snow.
- 12:20It's the snow's fun when you're a kid.
- 12:21When you're older and have to deal with shoveling and being
- 12:24cold and driving and all that, it's kind of a pain in the butt.
- 12:27But yeah, it's kind of fun. It's still fun and novel.
- 12:30All new, sort of funded. Be in a new place and explore a
- 12:33new new environment. Well, I was thinking about being
- 12:37in the Midwest in particular while I was reading about your
- 12:40Zero Waste Coffee club, which I'm going to have you explain in
- 12:43just a second. And the reason I was thinking
- 12:46about the Midwest in a initiative like that is because
- 12:50things are harder when half of the year, it's more challenging
- 12:53to go outside. It's harder to motivate people
- 12:56to do things that require more effort.
- 13:00You know, I was here in California during the pandemic
- 13:04era, the especially the beginning, and it I had to
- 13:08remind myself that it was easier for me than for my family back
- 13:11home because I could be outside pretty much all year.
- 13:14Yeah. I mean, it's chilly today at
- 13:16like 56° and I'm struggling with it.
- 13:18But you know, the the idea that I couldn't go like the world was
- 13:22bigger for me than it was necessarily for my brothers or
- 13:24my mom. And.
- 13:26So when I think about efforts like the Zero Waste Coffee Club,
- 13:30I know that in Chicago might be more challenging than in a
- 13:33different place just because there's more effort that goes
- 13:36into it. Could you tell us what that is
- 13:39and why the impact of food waste is something you're considering
- 13:44with your company and with coffee?
- 13:46Yeah. So the Zero Waste Coffee Club is
- 13:51a basically a coffee service that delivers freshly roasted
- 13:58coffee to your door and a reusable packaging system.
- 14:03It tackles the food waste in the regard of diverting organic
- 14:09material or material that's that could be broken down from
- 14:14landfill and cutting down on the use of plastic altogether.
- 14:18It's really rooted in my sustainability side of myself
- 14:24and wanting to offer customers a really a truly different and
- 14:29sustainable option for getting high quality coffee.
- 14:33When I was going down the the research rabbit hole of how to
- 14:39package my coffee and something that fit my ethics and
- 14:42standards, nothing out there really fit the bill.
- 14:45So that's how I started testing out this idea.
- 14:50You know, personally, I, I try to do, I buy stuff in bulk and I
- 14:55refill containers, I go to the, you know, those types of shops.
- 14:58And so it's sort of like something I'm familiar with.
- 15:02And as far as a sustainability side of things and trying to
- 15:09reel in our consumerism, the circular economy is really key
- 15:14to to, I am by no means an expert, I'm just an enthusiast,
- 15:21but it's really it's going to be key to changing our systems in
- 15:28the future to a reuse setup versus a single use setup.
- 15:33And so I saw no one else was doing this, no one else was
- 15:36offering. The closest thing you would get
- 15:38is going to a grocery store and buying coffee in bulk, which is
- 15:43a great option if you have it. However, for high quality
- 15:47coffees that you know, we're paying farmers a premium price
- 15:52to purchase and so I have to be able to then make a business out
- 15:56of it. You know, you don't want to be
- 15:58buying coffee that sit in your bulk aisle for six months and
- 16:02not be so flavorful and wonderful anymore.
- 16:05And I think high quality coffees are not necessarily associated
- 16:10with the bulk section. So that's where it's like, it's
- 16:14a great option. And I fully, you know, support
- 16:17people who buy their coffee in bulk from those options.
- 16:21But not everyone has that, like you said, getting out in some
- 16:24parts of the world or even the US in particular with weather
- 16:29and access, you might not have access to those things.
- 16:32So that's where creating an e-commerce option was really key
- 16:38in developing the Zero Waste Coffee Club.
- 16:41So you I basically packaged the coffee and custom made silicone
- 16:45bags and I mailed them out to customers every four weeks.
- 16:49And then when they get their coffee and refill their own
- 16:53container where however they want to store it, they then mail
- 16:56that back to me and then I clean, sanitize and then reuse
- 17:00the same set of things. So there's no packaging waste
- 17:05that happens in the whole system.
- 17:07When you were looking into that, that the possibility of this,
- 17:12did you run into a lot of roadblocks?
- 17:16I would imagine that like just trying to find, you know, just
- 17:20answering the question, is this even allowed?
- 17:23You know, like those types of things would stop me.
- 17:25I'd be like, I don't, I don't know what to do here.
- 17:27Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I suppose the buck's still
- 17:30out there. No one's right about it yet.
- 17:34I follow all the food, food safety standards that are
- 17:37required. But yeah, I'm still really, I
- 17:40still feel this system. I'm in a kind of a two point O
- 17:45testing stage of I'm not sort of full on launching everything,
- 17:50but I still have a lot of kinks to work out regarding the
- 17:53systems. But yeah, because I'm basically
- 17:55creating something that doesn't exist.
- 17:56So I'm figuring out what materials are most efficient,
- 17:59light, durable, washable. Sanitation is essential that are
- 18:06easy to use from a consumer standpoint, easy for me to fill
- 18:10and refill, stay closed during shipping, food grade, of course,
- 18:15without saying so, there's a lot of things that were required.
- 18:23And so when I first started, I, I picked out a couple of my
- 18:26subscribers who were friends to help test out and I just used
- 18:30off the shelf options that I could find.
- 18:32And then I grew that a little bit.
- 18:34And then last year I did a crowdfunding to be able to
- 18:37invest in custom made bags that that checked a few more boxes
- 18:42that I needed. And a couple of those were
- 18:46staying closed while I shipped them across the country.
- 18:49The, the statue of pipe bags were not, do not stay closed all
- 18:53the time, no matter how many clips you put on them, that kind
- 18:57of thing. And so, yeah, double things.
- 18:59There's, there's lots of hurdles to jump through and to figure
- 19:03out, but that's still rooted in the way I want to build this
- 19:07company. I want it to be pushing the
- 19:10boundaries and actually offering different options and better
- 19:14solutions. That might require creating a
- 19:18new system, but I kind of feel like if the system is creatable,
- 19:24there's other products that could use this system.
- 19:27And so I feel like there's potential there from a
- 19:30sustainability aspect to branch into other products potentially,
- 19:34not just coffee. How do you stay motivated to
- 19:39pursue this challenge, which is a challenge, and I say that
- 19:44seriously because I struggle with this.
- 19:46Sustainability is important to me.
- 19:48It's something that my wife would say I go a little insane
- 19:52about when it comes to what we buy or don't buy.
- 19:56But even I've like really struggled in the last year in
- 19:58particular because I can't even convince, you know, the
- 20:00neighbors in my apartment complex to recycle, you know,
- 20:03it's still or like to use the right bin.
- 20:05So you're already sourcing sustainably, roasting coffee,
- 20:10doing your own branding. This is another effort.
- 20:14How do you stay motivated to do it?
- 20:16That is a very good question. I'm incredibly stubborn.
- 20:20My husband will tell you that. I don't know.
- 20:23I just that actually this type of stuff is actually what keeps
- 20:28me going. I'm not in this to make to make
- 20:31money to do the status quo. I'm actually I'm in this.
- 20:34I chose to quit my secure day job in a career I had for 15
- 20:39years to do something different because I wanted, I wanted to be
- 20:47able to do something that makes the world better.
- 20:49And this is the type of stuff that I want to see happen.
- 20:52If someone else had already figured it out, great, I would
- 20:54subscribe to American and do that.
- 20:56But no one had figured that out yet.
- 20:58So that's why I don't know. I find it interesting.
- 21:02I there's always a level of learning, tons of research that
- 21:07has to happen. It's grueling and gets tiring
- 21:10and really frustrating, but I don't know, I'm passionate about
- 21:13it. I guess I just have this weird
- 21:16passion and stubbornness to to keep going and to keep trying
- 21:21until something really shows me that this is, you know, until I
- 21:25really hit that wall and it's like, no, this is not possible
- 21:28because of XY and Z. And then I'll know.
- 21:31OK, at least I tried. I, I know I tried.
- 21:34Now I need to move on to the next thing.
- 21:36Sure. Do you think having a child
- 21:39keeps you motivated in that way? I think about that a lot because
- 21:42I don't have kids of my own. And so when I'm thinking about
- 21:46the future, it's fairly selfish in that regard.
- 21:49Obviously I have God kids that I think about and I have friends
- 21:53kids and that sort of thing. And I, I wonder about that.
- 21:56How would that change my perspective of what I do today?
- 21:59And, you know, probably pushed me over the edge into crazy,
- 22:03but. Well, yeah, thank you for for
- 22:06pointing that out. For me personally, it it has
- 22:09been a driver. I didn't decide to get enough
- 22:15courage to start my own business until after I had a kid, which
- 22:19is probably not the smartest way to do it.
- 22:20You should do it before you have a kid and have it be successful
- 22:23so you can be financially stable.
- 22:25But I didn't have the motivation and, and it did that something
- 22:30in me changed. I know it doesn't happen for
- 22:33everyone, and that's fine. But for me, the both the, the
- 22:41passions for sustainability and for gender equity really came to
- 22:46the forefront when I had a kid, you know, and kind of just
- 22:51evaluating the future. I mean, I was already, I was
- 22:55probably more diligent on the sustainability side of things
- 22:57when I was young and single and could do all the sacrifices I
- 23:01wanted to. When you have a kid, you kind of
- 23:03have to succumb to conveniences. So yes, I sometimes buy those,
- 23:08you know, snack packs that I just hate so much and a little
- 23:11part of me dies. But, you know, but when you have
- 23:13a kid taking a lunch to school, you kind of have to just you
- 23:17have to use the tools that you have.
- 23:18And I think that's OK. I think in a way it also has has
- 23:23allowed me to give myself a little bit more grace and some
- 23:26of the things that I think when I was younger I was a lot more
- 23:30stubborn about. But yeah, I think having a kid
- 23:35does make you think about the future and your impact and what
- 23:40role or role model do you want to be for your kid.
- 23:44And so it kind of maybe gives you a little bit more motivation
- 23:47to really become that role metal that you would have wanted to be
- 23:51for your kid. And then when you have one, it's
- 23:53OK now or never. You know, this kids going to
- 23:56grow up and my time's going to be out.
- 23:57So it's now or never. I put a note in our pre show
- 24:02chat about the value of hope at this time and sustainability and
- 24:06kind of the future climate. All things that impact coffee
- 24:10are things that seem unstable in the moment and we're
- 24:16questioning. And so for me, finding people
- 24:19that are still motivated and inspired helps keep me going.
- 24:22And so I thank you for that. You have a decade of roast, more
- 24:28than a decade of roasting experience.
- 24:29You've been running Swelter for four or five years, I believe.
- 24:33I am wondering if somebody came to you and asked you for some
- 24:38advice, said, you know, I want to kind of do what you do.
- 24:40I want to start roasting or I want to start a company someday.
- 24:44What would you say to them? If someone wanted to start
- 24:49roasting it, they'd do it. And like, I just think it's so
- 24:52fun. It's such a low bar to just
- 24:55start getting some sort of vessel to roast coffee in your
- 25:00house and do that discovery. That's like just such a fun
- 25:03sensory experience and just a fun learning about the craft and
- 25:09the coffee itself and all of that.
- 25:11So just go for it in any way that you can.
- 25:14You can, you can do it really cheaply or you can get a really
- 25:17fancy little home roaster nowadays and there's tons of
- 25:20video tutorials and all the lots more education online to learn
- 25:24about what's happening to the coffee as you roast.
- 25:27So that just go for it. If you have an interest there
- 25:31starting a business, I'd probably not tell people to do
- 25:35what I did. However, I don't know.
- 25:41I think everyone's going to have their own journey.
- 25:43You have to stick to your own motivations and your own
- 25:48inspirations. And so if you are able, I would
- 25:51say do planning. Plan as much as you can do
- 25:56research as much as you can, save up as much as you can until
- 26:01you just kind of have to dive in because you could do that
- 26:03forever and just have one excuse after the other before you start
- 26:09doing what you want to do. At a certain point, you just
- 26:12kind of have to dive in. And that's sort of what happened
- 26:15to me is like I did a little bit of planning.
- 26:17I should have done a lot more. I did a little bit of saving.
- 26:19I should have done a lot more. But at a certain point I was at
- 26:23a point in my life where I was like, it's either now or never.
- 26:26I just have to go for this. I have to try it out.
- 26:28I have to prove it to myself. Either I can or cannot do this.
- 26:32And if I can't, if I end up, you know, not succeeding in making
- 26:35it a sustainable business where I can actually start paying
- 26:39myself, I have stuff to fall back on, you know, and it would
- 26:43really be heartbreaking, but at least I know I tried as hard as
- 26:48I could and learned a lot of stuff, but I could revert to
- 26:52other stuff, other business, you know, my previous career or some
- 26:55other endeavors I've I've started.
- 26:59And that's kind of what I tell myself is like, you know, it's
- 27:01isn't. You don't have to keep at this
- 27:03forever, still having, you know, Plan B, plan C, plan.
- 27:08DI think what I'm hearing from you is that I should buy a van
- 27:12because it's now or never and the show should hit the road.
- 27:17Yes. I will caution you though, on
- 27:19the other side of that, the longer you go without having a
- 27:23traditional job, the harder it is to go back to a traditional.
- 27:25Job, Yes, yes, I will definitely.
- 27:29And I will definitely agree with that.
- 27:32I don't know if I could just get hired by someone again and work
- 27:36for someone else. I'd like to think that if it's
- 27:40the right kind of organization, especially if it's if it's like
- 27:43an organization I can feel really passionate about, I can
- 27:46do it. But I'll probably try a couple
- 27:49other things before. Well then that leads us to what
- 27:54comes next. What's the future of Swalter
- 27:56Coffee as you're moving forward into what?
- 27:59What year is it 2025? Yeah, yeah, that's a such a big
- 28:03question. I've been doing a lot of
- 28:06reflecting and thinking about this.
- 28:08I've kind of been going just flying on the seat of my pants
- 28:14thus far. I have some vague ideas of where
- 28:16I want to move the company, but I think what I really need to do
- 28:19is solidify that vision as to where it needs to go for, for
- 28:23Swelter coffee to have the impact in the world that I
- 28:27really want it to, it has to grow.
- 28:30I have to have more buying power to support farmers.
- 28:33I have to have more, a bigger team to have the effective
- 28:37communication to customers for education.
- 28:40So the company needs to grow. And so that's really the focus
- 28:43on that. That growth road map is what I
- 28:45need to need to do, whether it's what sort of wholesale or
- 28:51business model I need to figure out that makes the most sense
- 28:55and find those partnerships and people to to make help me make
- 28:59it happen. That idea of growth and hope and
- 29:04all these things that we've been talking about, one of the new
- 29:06things that we're doing on this show for this season, season 13,
- 29:10is talking to people about things that they care about and
- 29:13things that they want to support.
- 29:14And I kind of last second sent you a message just asking, are
- 29:18there any sort of charity or nonprofit efforts that are
- 29:20important to you or that we can share with people as they're
- 29:23kind of going into the year and thinking about how can I be, you
- 29:27know, a source of, of support for other people?
- 29:30Yeah, Yeah. The two that came to mind,
- 29:33they're two organizations that I know their work pretty well and
- 29:36they have a really positive impact in in coffee, in the
- 29:41coffee space are the folks they're based in predominantly
- 29:48in Vermont that they work in Central America.
- 29:51So it's Food for farmers.org. They do a lot of amazing work in
- 29:57programs trying to help farmers diversify their income and get
- 30:03food on the table, stuff like that.
- 30:06They have a lot of really great programs because for a lot of
- 30:10the year for farmers, they get paid once a year, once harvested
- 30:14out. And so they often go through
- 30:16part of the year, you know, with a lot of scarcity.
- 30:20And so they work with a lot of people and just helping them
- 30:23find ways to diversify their income and their food sources.
- 30:27And so they do really great work.
- 30:29The other, the other organization I'm really
- 30:31passionate about is being voyage.org.
- 30:35They work specifically with women producers in Central
- 30:38America and I think they're just branching into Colombia.
- 30:42So their focus is on skill building, resources, market
- 30:48access, etcetera. They have a handful of different
- 30:51really amazing programs and they've been growing like crazy.
- 30:53So they're doing really impactful work to help
- 30:56specifically women producers across Central and now starting
- 31:00to move into South America. So both of those organizations
- 31:02are doing really great work as far as on the supply chain side
- 31:05and they're pretty small. So the impacts, any sort of
- 31:08supported donations people have will have a big impact on on
- 31:11them. When you are out exploring the
- 31:15world and you stop at a coffee shop or a coffee roaster, what
- 31:19do you order? So I have a couple different
- 31:23criteria. First of all, if it's what time
- 31:27of day is it? If it's in the morning I opt for
- 31:30more of like a black pour over type of thing.
- 31:33If it's in the afternoon, I go for the fun milk drinks, my go
- 31:37to milk drink. If it feels like the the cafe
- 31:41has a lot of skills and quality, I'll go for a cappuccino.
- 31:45That's sort of like, if they can make a good cappuccino, they're
- 31:48going to pass my test. I'm a die hard cappuccino
- 31:52drinker, especially in the afternoon, like after lunch.
- 31:56But if, if it's like especially if it's a roaster, if it's a
- 32:00cafe and they don't necessarily roast their own coffee, I kind
- 32:03of might just pick whatever. But if it's a roaster, I like to
- 32:06try with some of their single origins and just usually try
- 32:10something I'm not familiar with. I drink my own coffee all the
- 32:13time. And so when I'm out and about, I
- 32:15like to drink other people's coffee.
- 32:16And especially if it's someone I hadn't heard of.
- 32:20Or if it, if I can see if it's a woman producer, I will
- 32:23definitely go for that. But usually you can't see that
- 32:27or like an origin that I'm not familiar with.
- 32:30I'll try like a single origin pour over very.
- 32:34Boring, not at all. This is what people are
- 32:36listening for this. They're excited to hear this, I
- 32:39hope. The last question I have for you
- 32:42then is as we are, as we're stepping away and we're sending
- 32:46people to sweltercoffee.com or they're engaging with Swelter
- 32:49coffee in some way. What would you say they should
- 32:53think about trying from you? What would be, you know, hey,
- 32:55this is the thing that I'm really excited about and I want
- 32:58you to taste or try from our from our roaster.
- 33:03I'm about to release, I just released my my single origin
- 33:10from India called Varshinis India.
- 33:14That one's really delicious one. This is the second year I've had
- 33:17it and last year it came and went rather quickly.
- 33:20It was pretty popular and I only bought a small amount.
- 33:23So try that if if you haven't really explored Indian coffee
- 33:27yet. That's a really fun one.
- 33:28And then I'm about to release a new Ethiopia and it's a new
- 33:33origin working with importer based in Michigan, Artisan
- 33:38Coffee Imports that I love the work they do.
- 33:41I've been buying through them for my Rwandan source.
- 33:44And so this is the first one from Ethiopia and I'm, I love
- 33:48Ethiopian coffees. So I'm really excited to release
- 33:51this. It's not on the website yet.
- 33:53So maybe in a few more weeks I'll have the profiling done and
- 33:55all the brand packaging done and have it released.
- 33:58But that one's going to be pretty special.
- 34:01But I just say Explorer. I try to offer a spectrum of
- 34:06coffees on the medium spectrum. They're almost all single origin
- 34:11except for one blend that I do for folks who like a little bit
- 34:14of a darker, fuller body. It's the Frieda's blend.
- 34:18So I just say poke around, see, think about what you like in
- 34:22your cup and and try something that might might fit that or get
- 34:26the the tasters coffee lovers gift pack and there's a little
- 34:29box with three different samples.
- 34:31You can get three different coffees to try.
- 34:33So. I wish more roasters did that.
- 34:36Really. I do because I'm somebody who
- 34:39drinks a lot of coffee and explores a lot and connects with
- 34:43a lot of different roasters. And if I'm going to buy a full
- 34:47bag from every place, that adds up pretty quickly.
- 34:51And then I'm not making a living anymore and I can't keep doing
- 34:54this. So if more people offered like a
- 34:562 pack or a three pack or a four pack and I could, you know,
- 34:59spend say under 50 bucks and try the gamut, that would be
- 35:03amazing. So thank you for doing that.
- 35:06Stephanie, thank you for spending this time with us and
- 35:08sharing a little bit about your story.
- 35:10We certainly appreciate it. Yeah.
- 35:12Thank you for inviting me. This was really great.
- 35:14You had really great question. Oh, thank you.
- 35:18You can find all the links that we chatted about in today's
- 35:20episode, including the one to sweltercoffee.com and the
- 35:24charities that we just mentioned in our show notes in our
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