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Pip Tinning: Secondary school Deputy Principal on teachers accepting the Government's pay offer · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Finally we have an outcome with the secondary school teachers.
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  Speaker 1: They've settle on in a pay agreement with the government
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  Speaker 1: that we'll see teachers get four point six percent over
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  Speaker 1: two years. Remember the government started with one percent a year.
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  Speaker 1: Pip Tinning is deputy principal at a secondary school in
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  Speaker 1: the Bay of Plenty, joins us this morning. Pip, good
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  Speaker 1: morning morning. Did you vote know last time? And then
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  Speaker 1: yes this time? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's actually threat. Yeah it was right on the nose,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dad, Actually, And.
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  Speaker 1: What's changed for you? Or is it the vibes that
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  Speaker 1: have changed? And a time to move on that sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think what actually swayed me was I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: anything more attractive was going to come with any other offer.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was as good as it was going
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  Speaker 2: to get. And I just really believe that it's just
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  Speaker 2: one of those things where yeah, I just needed to
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  Speaker 2: vote yes just to get things shifting. We've got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff coming up, and yeah, it was just
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  Speaker 2: it just felt.
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  Speaker 1: Right time to move on, did the union, Because I've
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  Speaker 1: had teachers texting this morning and messaging me saying that
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  Speaker 1: the union didn't recommend Normally they will say recommend don't
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  Speaker 1: vote for this offer, or do vote for this offer,
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  Speaker 1: And this time it was a neutral offer. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that makes a difference for people.
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  Speaker 2: I think it allows people to make their own minds up.
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  Speaker 2: I think if you've got the union telling you no,
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  Speaker 2: then you know full well that actually it is a
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  Speaker 2: poor offer. And if they're telling you yes, then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it definitely has a sway. I think this time people
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  Speaker 2: were really pragmatic around their vote.
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  Speaker 1: Do you, if you're being honest, Pip does sometimes does
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  Speaker 1: the union negativity all you?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Do you think the public is angry at teachers
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  Speaker 1: about results? Well, not teachers, but they're angry upset about
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  Speaker 1: the results that we've been seeing slipping.
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  Speaker 2: I think teachers are doing a fantastic job. I think
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  Speaker 2: the rhetoric around what teachers do or don't do is
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  Speaker 2: really damaging. It's been increasing. I've noticed it's been really
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  Speaker 2: increasing in the media, attacks on teachers, attacks on principles
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  Speaker 2: in our schools, and that's really concerning. We work really hard,
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  Speaker 2: We work really hard for your kids. We love teaching.
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  Speaker 2: You know. We don't get into this because it's like
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing else to do. We get into this because
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  Speaker 2: it's a deliberate choice, so you know where it's Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But can you understand why people get frustrated with the results,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they have been going backwards.
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  Speaker 2: They've been going backwards globally. It's not just New Zealand,
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  Speaker 2: it's a global slip. So potentially we all need to
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  Speaker 2: be looking at what's happening within our education sector and
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  Speaker 2: what's happening for our young people.
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  Speaker 1: All right, but appreciate your time this morning. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: Pip Tinnick.
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