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Tot Mom Casey Anthony Tells 'Her Truth' on Network Series · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. You'd have to be living
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Speaker 1: under a rock in a cave far far away not
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Speaker 1: to have heard that Taught Mom. Casey Anthony is now
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Speaker 1: set to appear in an airbrushed digitized version of her
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Speaker 1: Truth on the Peacock Network. Her Truth will hold on
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Speaker 1: just a minute, because I don't believe taught Mom's her
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Speaker 1: truth is the truth. Let's do a little fat check
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Speaker 1: on what the truth is. Take a listen to toat
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Speaker 1: Mom Casey Anthony's distraught, panicked mother, Cindy not tot Mom,
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Speaker 1: but her mother, Cindy Anthony calling nine one one, when
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Speaker 1: taught Mom's baby girl to your old Kelly goes missing.
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Speaker 1: Listen a little chair emergency. I called her a little
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Speaker 1: gonna go to the deputy Shaw, So I thought about
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Speaker 1: my granddaughter has been tricking che husband listened for him
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Speaker 1: her mother's LiPo miss okay here now okay, what did
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Speaker 1: the address that you're calling from? Please tell him home
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Speaker 1: Spring drive. We're clock and about three your little girl
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Speaker 1: four nine three seven wife hope through h O P
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Speaker 1: E S P R I M G Cladra Lindle, Oh,
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Speaker 1: my daughter finally admitted I need to find her. Your
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Speaker 1: daughter admitted the baby is later if you kind of
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Speaker 1: took her a month ago that my God has been
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Speaker 1: looking for I told you my daughter was missing for
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Speaker 1: a month. I just found her today. But I can't
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Speaker 1: find my granddaughter, she just admitted to me. But she's
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Speaker 1: been trying to find her herself. There's something wrong with God.
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Speaker 1: My dad's cards to day and it's not like there's
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Speaker 1: been a dead bought it and threw a cloud. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what is the three year old name? Kayley c A
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Speaker 1: y l E E Anthony Kiely Anthony? Yeah, okay, she
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Speaker 1: wiped like her Hispanic He's light. How long has she
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Speaker 1: been missing for? I had not seen her since the
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Speaker 1: seventh of June. Do you hear Sindy Anthony's voice cracking
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Speaker 1: in pain and emotion? She says my daughter quote finally
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Speaker 1: admitted Kiley has been missing over a month. Where are
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Speaker 1: the missing posters? Where is the desperate please on TV?
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Speaker 1: Where are the search teams led by none other than mommy?
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Speaker 1: They are nowhere because she wasn't missing. Kelly Anthony was
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Speaker 1: never missing. She was dead. She was murdered and the
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Speaker 1: only person that knew where she was taught mom Casey
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Speaker 1: Anthony I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series
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Speaker 1: X one eleven. In the last hours, we get a
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Speaker 1: news release. I want you to hear the trailer about
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Speaker 1: toat mom Casey Anthony's version of quote, her truth about
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Speaker 1: to be unleashed on the public. Listen Kesey interview, ABC
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Speaker 1: marker Sawstix. I talk to me now when you're not
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Speaker 1: getting creative control. That's the whole trailer. Tottenham says nothing.
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Speaker 1: For about three seconds, you see her praining and fixing
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Speaker 1: her hair and her lips and her teeth to go
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Speaker 1: on camera. That's it. That's the trailer. This whole thing
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Speaker 1: is so airbrushed, digitized. I'm surprised they're putting it out there.
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Speaker 1: The nine one one call goes on, take a listen,
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Speaker 1: UM three eight nine two thousands, three two thousand and five,
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Speaker 1: don't true to listen something a month ago? Who'sten? Okay?
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Speaker 1: I just I mean, I understand. Can you can you
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Speaker 1: come down for me for the semitent? I don't even
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Speaker 1: know what's going on. Okay, I'm gonna chin is your
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Speaker 1: is your Daughter there? Song? With the Is Your Daughter There? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm with her, do you mind it by step with her?
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Speaker 1: Thank you? I called them two hours ago. We haven't
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Speaker 1: got here. Finally some bany book months ago, ma'am, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: they want to talk to you. So you hear Sindy
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Speaker 1: Anthony trying to coerce her daughter, taught Mom Casey Anthony
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Speaker 1: to come to the phone to explain where her last
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Speaker 1: daughter was, saying, uh, just right off the top, joining
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Speaker 1: me an all star panel to make sense of what
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Speaker 1: we know right now. But I'm going to go to
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Speaker 1: someone intimately involved in this case, Rob Dick, world famous
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Speaker 1: bounty hunter, bill expert, probably an investigator. You can find
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Speaker 1: him at the human hunters dot com. Rob Dick was
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Speaker 1: there working with our friend Leonard Padilla, who paid the
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Speaker 1: half a million dollar bond to bail tot Mom Casey
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Speaker 1: Anthony out of jail. Anne was there when Tot Mom
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Speaker 1: came home from her first incarceration on a minor offense.
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Speaker 1: He observed the whole thing. So why Rob Dick did
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Speaker 1: the grandma Cindy Anthony have to coerce make tot Mom
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Speaker 1: come to the call to speak to nine one one
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Speaker 1: about her missing child because she had nothing to say.
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Speaker 1: I mean the whole time. You know, if you've been
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Speaker 1: in supposed to be missing your daughter for thirty days,
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Speaker 1: and then you're in custody for thirty days, you know
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Speaker 1: what would you think the first words out of your
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Speaker 1: mouth would be when you get out of jail? You
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Speaker 1: know where issue? Where are we at? Where can we
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Speaker 1: find There was no discussion about that. I would be
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Speaker 1: pulling my hair out if I were behind bars number one,
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Speaker 1: but especially with my daughter missing, and I wasn't they
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Speaker 1: her to try to find her, to scream at the
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Speaker 1: top of my lungs, where is my daughter? But as
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact, isn't it true, Rob Dick that
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Speaker 1: the first thing that taught mom Casey Anthony said when
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Speaker 1: she came home from a couple of nights behind bars
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Speaker 1: on a minor offenses before she was charged with murder.
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Speaker 1: Her first words she walked in the house, she went
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Speaker 1: in the kitchen where her mother was, and she said,
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Speaker 1: not where the hell is Kelly? Her words were was
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Speaker 1: for supper? Correct, And that was it. I mean, there
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Speaker 1: was nothing about Cayley. Okay. So finally Sandy Anthony gets
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Speaker 1: taught mom on the phone, listen, can you tell me
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Speaker 1: a little bit what's going on and my daughter has
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Speaker 1: been received for the last thirty one days. And you
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Speaker 1: know who matter, I know who. I tried to contact her.
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Speaker 1: I actually received a phone call today now from a
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Speaker 1: number of that the longer in service. I didn't get
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Speaker 1: to speak to my daughter for aboutom moments, for about
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Speaker 1: a minute. Okay, did you guys callow a report a
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Speaker 1: vehicle soon? And yes, my mom did. Okay, so there's
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Speaker 1: been a vehicle soon too. No, this was my vehicle?
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Speaker 1: What a vehicle soon? Um, it's a ninety twenty xunfire. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I have deputies on the way to you right now
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Speaker 1: for that. But now you're now you're three old, three
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Speaker 1: olds missing? Kaylee Anthony okay, white female? Yes? Wait? Female
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Speaker 1: three years old eight nine two thousan five or day
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Speaker 1: to birth? Yeah, and you last saw her a month ago,
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Speaker 1: thirty one days from thirty one days. Well, that's a lie.
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Speaker 1: She didn't I hear her say, Alexa's restcha joining me
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Speaker 1: for Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. Didn't? I just here,
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Speaker 1: taught mom Casey Anthony say, I got a call from
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Speaker 1: the babysitter slash kidnapper. We've got a lawyer with us
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Speaker 1: right now. John W. Deal. I got a call from
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Speaker 1: her babysitter who took Kelly thirty one days ago, and
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Speaker 1: now that number, in the past hour has gone disconnected.
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Speaker 1: And I got to speak to Kelly for about a minute.
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Speaker 1: Did I just hear her say that you did? That's
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Speaker 1: exactly what she said and also cool as a cucumber.
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Speaker 1: She is on this phone where her child is missing,
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Speaker 1: but then she's not really missing. I mean I spoke
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Speaker 1: to her and she's with a babysitter. But Kasey doesn't
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Speaker 1: even have a job, So why does she have a
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Speaker 1: babysitter for this child? Her parents have been a baby,
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Speaker 1: this child's whole life. They have always lived with their grandparents.
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Speaker 1: And speaking of not having a job, which is a
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Speaker 1: whole nother can of worms. More for lies. She would
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Speaker 1: actually dress up in a Universal employee outfit with a
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Speaker 1: name tag and ID and pretend she was going to
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Speaker 1: work at Universal to fake out her parents. She hadn't worked,
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Speaker 1: and I guess what two years and I just sit
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Speaker 1: home on the sofa eating chips while they took care
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Speaker 1: of her and Kelly time stories with Nancy Grace, Joe
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan. The reason I say that is a lie
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Speaker 1: that she just talked to Kelly, because Kelly's body reveals
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Speaker 1: that she had been left in the wilderness, decomposing, torn
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Speaker 1: apart by animals. We keep hearing three years old, she
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Speaker 1: was two, she was about to turn three. So when
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Speaker 1: todd Mom says I just talked to her, she was
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Speaker 1: already dead. And we know that because of the degree
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Speaker 1: of decomposition of this baby's body. So right there and
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Speaker 1: the nimal one call she's busted. Yes, sign is pointing
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Speaker 1: a big, meaty finger at her and saying you're lying,
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Speaker 1: because the science actually says otherwise. Relative to the degree
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Speaker 1: that this little angel's body was decomposed, Nancy, it was
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Speaker 1: decomposed so horribly that there was never a definitive cause
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Speaker 1: of death. There was a manner of death, but there
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Speaker 1: was never a definitive cause of death that could be
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Speaker 1: determined in Cayley's passing our murder. And so you know,
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Speaker 1: you begin to think about that, and you think, well,
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Speaker 1: how far down the tracks had she gone? How long
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Speaker 1: had she actually been missing? And contrary to what people think,
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Speaker 1: we can't put a specific time when she went missing
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Speaker 1: and when she died, but we do know she had
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Speaker 1: been down for a long long time, a really long time,
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Speaker 1: found in trash bags from the Anthony home, wrapped in
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Speaker 1: a blanket from Keyley's room. What am I supposed to
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Speaker 1: think that some unknown kidnapper snuck into the home, took
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Speaker 1: the baby without anybody finding out, and paused in the
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Speaker 1: kitchen to get trash bags, paused in the baby's room
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Speaker 1: to get a blanket. That's total bs and and anthy.
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Speaker 1: Guess can I interject? Please? Do? I'm hearing the voice
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Speaker 1: of doctor Bethany Marshall. She's joining us from LA and
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Speaker 1: you can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, doctor Bethany. Just a little factoid about how
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Speaker 1: all of this got said in motion. Casey was living
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Speaker 1: in a parent's house with a daughter, Kayley, and she
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Speaker 1: was such a horrible, disgusting mother that her mother went
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Speaker 1: to therapy and asked the therapist how do I get
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Speaker 1: my daughters to take better care of the granddaughter. So
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Speaker 1: the therapist said, you have to tell her to take responsibility,
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Speaker 1: to take her to school, feed her, And so that's
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Speaker 1: what Cynthy did to King. She said, you have to
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Speaker 1: take more responsibility. You can't just lie on the sofa,
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Speaker 1: eating chips all day. Within a day, that's when Casey
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Speaker 1: took Kayley and disappeared. And that's what said, all of
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Speaker 1: this emotion was a simple request on Cindy's part to
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Speaker 1: take more responsibility for Kaylee. And I think that that
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Speaker 1: made Casey feel that her prescious dating life and lying
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Speaker 1: on the sofa and everything she was involved in was
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Speaker 1: being interfered with. And that's when little Kayley was disappeared
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Speaker 1: by her own mother. You know John W deal joining me,
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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer out of Winter Park, Florida, practices all over,
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Speaker 1: author of the Method, The Method Proven techniques for winning
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Speaker 1: jury trials. He's at johnwdeal dot com and he represented
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Speaker 1: the real Zanada Gonzalez in a lawsuit against taught Mom
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Speaker 1: Casey Anthony for smearing her name. There's no question that
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Speaker 1: the babysitter taught mom Casey Anthony's referring to as having
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Speaker 1: taken her daughter does not exist. She happened. Taught Mom
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Speaker 1: happened to see Zenata Gonzalez a name written on a
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Speaker 1: list at an apartment complex and just took the name
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Speaker 1: and used it. And then the rules. Zanata Gonzalez said
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Speaker 1: what she started to hearing your name on TV as
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Speaker 1: stealing a baby? What and hired you? But I was
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Speaker 1: just thinking about what Dr Bethany Marshall just said, John
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Speaker 1: w deal about. Within twenty four hours of bringing down
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Speaker 1: the hammer on top, Mom about, look, you're gonna have
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Speaker 1: to actually feed your baby and take her to play school.
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Speaker 1: I'm paying for it. I'll pay for the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: You just have to feed her. You've got to take
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Speaker 1: some responsibility. And in less than twenty four hours taught
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Speaker 1: Mom nuts up and leaves the home with the baby,
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Speaker 1: with Cindy begging please don't take the baby, Please don't
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Speaker 1: take the baby. She took the baby. I mean, how
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Speaker 1: does she get away with all the lies? Deal about
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Speaker 1: working at Universal? In fact, isn't it tree John deal
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Speaker 1: that she led the cops all the way to Universal,
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Speaker 1: talking about her job all the way to security. They somehow,
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Speaker 1: I guess, because she's with cops, get through security, go
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Speaker 1: all the way up to the building where she says
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Speaker 1: she works. They get to the door and they're going,
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Speaker 1: is she is okay? I lied right exactly? Take them
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Speaker 1: out there, And of course the cops are thinking, you
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Speaker 1: know what's going on here? What you get to say?
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Speaker 1: And then she gets there and comes clean about that
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Speaker 1: not working there, but of course continues the lies about
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Speaker 1: Zanida Gonzalez and everything else that's happened in between times.
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Speaker 1: Guy speaking of what top mom Casey Anthony was due
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Speaker 1: and during the time her daughter was quote missing. And
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Speaker 1: for those of you that can't see on Fox Nation
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Speaker 1: that you're hearing on iHeart, or you're hearing on our podcast,
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Speaker 1: or you're hearing on Series Sex sim On eleven, I'm
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Speaker 1: definitely using double quoties what she was doing during the
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Speaker 1: time that baby Kayley was missing. You've got to hear that.
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Speaker 1: Let's play thirty three inside fourth Jack. You just thirty three.
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Speaker 1: The last time that anyone saw Kaylee Anthony was June sixteenth,
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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. Little Kayley was just two years
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Speaker 1: old when she vanished. Body would be thirty one days
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Speaker 1: before she was reported missing. On June twentieth, Casey Anthony
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Speaker 1: is seen at a nightclub having a good old time,
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Speaker 1: hardying it up and competing in a pop body contest.
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Speaker 1: On June thirtieth, she's seen on surveillance video going into Target,
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Speaker 1: going into j. C. Penney and what's she doing. She's shopping.
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Speaker 1: Of course, perhaps the most cavalier of all her actions
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Speaker 1: is when on July second and Casey Anthony gets a tattoo,
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Speaker 1: and not only does she get a tattoo, she gets
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Speaker 1: a tattoo that says bella vita. What does that mean?
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Speaker 1: It means beautiful life. Now, those are our friends at
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Speaker 1: Access and you're hearing a recounting of some of the
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Speaker 1: things Tod Mom was doing while her baby was missing.
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Speaker 1: Up on literally dancing on a bar at a at
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Speaker 1: a stripper pole and a blue mini dress, go go
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Speaker 1: boots and a push up bra while her daughter was
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Speaker 1: quote missing. I guess she was looking under the bar
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Speaker 1: stools for Kelly, but only she knew Kelly was already dead.
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Speaker 1: And now we're hearing from Peacock that they have produced
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Speaker 1: a three part documentary where Tod Mom gives quote her truth.
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Speaker 1: You know what, I prefer to hear the truth as
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Speaker 1: we know it. I want you to take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our cut eight. Casey Anthony sobbed into a tissue
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Speaker 1: hearing what happened to Kayley's remains in the woods. What
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Speaker 1: we're looking at here the top of the bones. These
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Speaker 1: have actually been shoot on by animals. The gallery was
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Speaker 1: filled with surprise faces, including an expecting mother whose mouth
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Speaker 1: hung wide open as autopsy photos were shown in court.
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Speaker 1: There is no child that should have duct tape on
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Speaker 1: its face when it dies. There is no reason to
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Speaker 1: put duct tape on the face after they die. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Jane Garavaglia, also known as Doctor G Medical Examiner on
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Speaker 1: her Discovery Channel show, says she classified Kayley's death as
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Speaker 1: a homicide based on red flags. The child was reported
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Speaker 1: missing thirty one days late and her remains were hidden
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Speaker 1: in the woods. Could a child expose to a sufficient
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Speaker 1: out of chloroform die as a result. Absolutely, you're hearing
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Speaker 1: our friend Carson Chambers too, just got Morgan joining us.
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Speaker 1: Could you decipher what we just heard happened to Babe Kelly? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: And you know when doctor G was referring to the circumstances,
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Speaker 1: it's it's what they call the totality of the circumstances,
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Speaker 1: as she doesn't have anything else scientifically to hang her
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Speaker 1: hat on. As far as the cause of death, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's it's abnormal to find a small child hidden, sequestered
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Speaker 1: if you will, out and the woods, wrapped in plastic
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Speaker 1: or an adjacent plastic bag. That of course, minju has
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Speaker 1: been wrapped, has been ripped open by scavengers. Do you
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Speaker 1: mean by animals that tore Kelly's body and ripped her
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Speaker 1: apart with their teeth. Yeah, And you know, her only
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Speaker 1: conclusion that she could come to was the fact that
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Speaker 1: that this is something that involves I'll play because there's
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Speaker 1: nothing else that she could say further. And you know,
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Speaker 1: they're asking about the chloroform. When they did a search,
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Speaker 1: when they actually did air samples in the back of
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Speaker 1: this vehicle that this person had, they found traces of
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Speaker 1: chloroform in there. And the problem with chloroform is that
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Speaker 1: it can be a product of decomposition. But then you
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Speaker 1: flip it on the other side and you say, well,
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Speaker 1: was chloroform actually applied to her in life to bring
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Speaker 1: about her death? And just to kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: and I think that people have speculated about this just
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Speaker 1: to you know, put the finishing touch. Her mouth was
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Speaker 1: duct taped, so you're compromising her ability to breathe at
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Speaker 1: that point when it comes down to it. But they
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Speaker 1: can't prove that Nancy's no more soft tissue left ducta
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Speaker 1: wrapped three times around two ole. Kelly Anthony's head found
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Speaker 1: hanging off off her skull when her body was found.
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Speaker 1: To Rob Dick, bounty hunter and Bill Expert, you spent
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Speaker 1: many days with tod Mom, Casey Anthony did you start?
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Speaker 1: I know, you arrived in Florida a few days before
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Speaker 1: Top Mom was released to have a meeting with George, Cindy,
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Speaker 1: and Lee Anthony, the brother Anthony's met with you. Then
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Speaker 1: you met top Mom when she was released from prison.
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Speaker 1: Tell me what happened. Well, initially it was, you know,
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Speaker 1: it seemed like a family that was in search for
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Speaker 1: a missing child. But it changed when Casey got out.
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Speaker 1: When Casey got out of jail and we get her home,
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Speaker 1: it just all became about her. I mean this is
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Speaker 1: no surprise. She has to be the center of attention,
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Speaker 1: even when her daughter's missing. It was just always about her.
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Speaker 1: What's an example of that, Well, for one, never being upset,
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Speaker 1: never shedding a tear, never asking you know what's been done.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Georgia's out there doing is booth and putting
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Speaker 1: out flyers and searching, but nothing from Casey, not even
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Speaker 1: a question or discussion. And then Cindy is coddling her like,
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Speaker 1: well we can't, you know, we can't push her. You
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Speaker 1: know she'll tell us when the time is right. You know,
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Speaker 1: nobody questioned her. You know what's interesting about what you're saying,
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Speaker 1: Rob Dick, I noticed that in the jailhouse interviews, which
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Speaker 1: we're all videoed in the state of Florida, because when
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Speaker 1: Casey taught mom, Casey Anthony was questioned by her mother
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Speaker 1: Cindy or her father George, and they pressed her where
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Speaker 1: what happened? Where's Kelly? She would blow up and curse
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Speaker 1: them out, and so they really wouldn't get anywhere. And
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Speaker 1: you learn as a mother how far you can push
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Speaker 1: your child to get what you're what you want, Like
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Speaker 1: I want you to go to bed on time. I
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Speaker 1: want you to finish your biology homework. When it's too far,
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Speaker 1: and you'll get a bad reaction and you'll you'll get nowhere.
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Speaker 1: And I guess you know, for you, John Deal, it'll
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Speaker 1: be the same thing about how far you cross cross
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Speaker 1: somebody or how far you direct your own witness before
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Speaker 1: you get a blow up on the stand. But Rob Dick,
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Speaker 1: the first thing when Todd mom got out of jail,
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Speaker 1: what did she say to you? Well, she talked about
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Speaker 1: how jail was, it smelled, and she just wanted to
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Speaker 1: eat and then Cindy's like, why I made your favorite meal.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's so surreal that there's nobody
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Speaker 1: talking about a missing child, you know. And one thing
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Speaker 1: I gotta say too, You know, George took a beating
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Speaker 1: in this whole process. He really did. But you know,
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Speaker 1: we knew. The very next morning, we awoke to George
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Speaker 1: losing it on Casey. I mean to the point where
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Speaker 1: he's physically shaking her. I want to know what happened.
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Speaker 1: And her response was Dad, quit acting like a fan
23:57
Speaker 1: cop and that was it. And at that moment, I mean,
24:02
Speaker 1: that was raw emotion. That was not stage. That was
24:05
Speaker 1: him trying to find his granddaughter, knowing that she's the
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Speaker 1: only one in the world that knew what happened, and
24:12
Speaker 1: he wasn't buying it. Then, you know, Nancy, we saw
24:16
Speaker 1: examples of Casey bullying Cindy in the jailhouse interviews. When
24:21
Speaker 1: Cindy calls Casey, Casey says, mom, mom, and she starts
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Speaker 1: questioning her mother about her boyfriends. She's not talking about Kayley,
24:31
Speaker 1: the missing baby. She's pressuring her mother to get information
24:37
Speaker 1: on her dating life. I want you to hear following
24:39
Speaker 1: up on what Rob Dick just told us about the
24:42
Speaker 1: Casey taught mom Casey Anthony's story that her dad drowned
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Speaker 1: Kelly in the pool or she accidentally drowned, and that
24:51
Speaker 1: he just decided to wrap her up and duct tape
24:53
Speaker 1: and throw her in the woods in a garbage bag.
24:55
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut fourteen. This is George
24:58
Speaker 1: Anthony speaking to our friend to feel and if this
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Speaker 1: scenario that Casey had had told to her defense about
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Speaker 1: Kayley drowning, why go through all this elaborate stuff to
25:12
Speaker 1: tap her up, to put her in a launder bag,
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Speaker 1: to put her in a trash bag and burry her
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Speaker 1: in the woods. I can't comprehend how human doing suppose
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Speaker 1: your daughter doing that to my granddaughter. I can't. I
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Speaker 1: can't visualize that. I don't want to visualize that. And
25:34
Speaker 1: you know, Rob Dick, I know that I'm projecting right
25:37
Speaker 1: now and that my experience made me different from somebody else's.
25:40
Speaker 1: But my fiance was murdered. I could not eat for
25:44
Speaker 1: I don't know how long. I lost down to eighty
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Speaker 1: nine pounds. I dropped out of school. I couldn't hear
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Speaker 1: the radio, I couldn't hear the TV. I couldn't hear
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Speaker 1: the clock on the wall ticking. My mom had to
25:57
Speaker 1: stop the clocks. According to you, when she first got
26:02
Speaker 1: out of prison, her words of war, jail, food sucks,
26:05
Speaker 1: Glad to be home. Yeah, and again, I just keep
26:08
Speaker 1: going back. There was no talk about it. You know.
26:10
Speaker 1: There was only one time where we actually thought there
26:13
Speaker 1: was some emotion coming out of her. We heard the
26:17
Speaker 1: noise she has gone into her room and we had
26:18
Speaker 1: heard a noise like almost like she was crying, and
26:21
Speaker 1: we're going, oh my gosh, maybe she's finally going to
26:24
Speaker 1: so some emotion to go in there. And she's laughing.
26:28
Speaker 1: She's laughing because some guy thought she was hot on
26:30
Speaker 1: social media. When did she ask you about cameras being outside?
26:35
Speaker 1: It was almost a daily event whenever we went to
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Speaker 1: Bias's office or home confinement, when we had to go
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Speaker 1: from point A to point B, she would come from
26:45
Speaker 1: the house and first thing in the car would be
26:48
Speaker 1: having seen all the cameras out there? How many cameras.
26:51
Speaker 1: The one time when she's wearing those white rim sunglasses,
26:55
Speaker 1: she tells me, look at me today, I looked like
26:56
Speaker 1: Jackie O. There's nothing about a missing girl. It was
27:00
Speaker 1: a fun show for her deal, John W. Deal, high
27:04
Speaker 1: profile lawyer out of Florida. He is intimately familiar with
27:09
Speaker 1: this case because he represented the real Zanada Gonzalez, who
27:12
Speaker 1: sued taught Mom for besmirching her, dragging her name through
27:16
Speaker 1: the mud, claims she was a child kidnapper. Did you
27:20
Speaker 1: hear that? How many cameras are out there? I look
27:23
Speaker 1: like Jackie, Oh, are you surprised at all? She's turned
27:26
Speaker 1: up back on camera again? And what is the motivation now? Fame? Notoriety, money?
27:33
Speaker 1: What I think? It's always yeah, same notoriety. I don't
27:37
Speaker 1: know about money. I don't know if there's any money
27:39
Speaker 1: in this for her. But you know, again, it's always
27:42
Speaker 1: been about her, you know, sociopath as far as the
27:45
Speaker 1: way she describes things, and just continually what they call congtabulation,
27:51
Speaker 1: making up things, taking a little bit of information standing it.
27:55
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to what she's going to what
27:58
Speaker 1: she's going to say on this so called interviews, because
28:01
Speaker 1: it's been just constant lies all the way through. Why
28:04
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to it? It's nothing but lies.
28:07
Speaker 1: She lied to her parents for years, claiming she had
28:10
Speaker 1: a job, even going so far as to wear a
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Speaker 1: universal uniform and an ID. She lied to cops to
28:17
Speaker 1: the brink until she had to admit as they were
28:21
Speaker 1: walking into Universal that hey, I don't really work here.
28:24
Speaker 1: She lied about Zenaida Gonzalez, She lied about everything. She
28:29
Speaker 1: did not take the stand because she could not undergo
28:31
Speaker 1: cross examination, and most critically, in my mind, while the baby,
28:37
Speaker 1: her daughter Kelley, was quote missing, she remained silent, never
28:42
Speaker 1: asking for help, never making a public appeal, never conducting searches, nothing, nothing.
28:47
Speaker 1: Why do you want to hear what she says? It's
28:49
Speaker 1: lies again, just to see how far the lies will continue,
28:53
Speaker 1: you know. Keep in mind we trying to depose her
28:55
Speaker 1: as well after she was acquitted, and she showed a
29:00
Speaker 1: deposition and by a closer to TV in the craziest
29:05
Speaker 1: disguise I've ever seen. Obviously just wanted to be seen.
29:08
Speaker 1: And then wait, what does she have on? She had
29:10
Speaker 1: on Phillies baseball cap, a dark sunglasses, and a like
29:17
Speaker 1: a witch type of wig, a really really dark black wig.
29:20
Speaker 1: And h I just remember seeing her on the on
29:22
Speaker 1: the screen and my partner at the time, John Morgan,
29:25
Speaker 1: just said, my god, that was the only thing you
29:28
Speaker 1: could say. So obviously an intention of secrets at the
29:30
Speaker 1: very end time stories with Nancy Grace to doddor Besany Marshall. Um,
29:53
Speaker 1: I know you will recall her behavior during the time
29:59
Speaker 1: the search was for Kelly. But I want to talk
30:01
Speaker 1: about appearing on the Peacock Quote documentary three part series.
30:08
Speaker 1: People apparently are interested in what lie she's going to
30:11
Speaker 1: tell this time, But you know what, to me, it's
30:15
Speaker 1: akin to have you ever been to the zoo and
30:18
Speaker 1: you can smell the snake house at a distance? Have
30:22
Speaker 1: you ever been to the zoo? I don't know if
30:23
Speaker 1: you're a zoo person. Yeah, okay, I've been to all
30:26
Speaker 1: kinds of zoos with the twins. That's our thing, going
30:28
Speaker 1: to zoos. You know you can smell the snake house
30:32
Speaker 1: far away, not the monkey house, not the wild other
30:36
Speaker 1: thing house, but the snake house or I can't anyway,
30:41
Speaker 1: and I hate them. I don't like them there. I
30:44
Speaker 1: can't think of any other animal or creature I feel
30:47
Speaker 1: that way about. But I will go in there because
30:50
Speaker 1: the twins want to go in there. And I stay
30:52
Speaker 1: at a distance, and yes, I look at them through
30:54
Speaker 1: the glass, but I can't wait to get away from them.
30:59
Speaker 1: I certainly don't want to hold one That's how I
31:04
Speaker 1: view taught mom Casey Anthony and her upcoming star turn
31:08
Speaker 1: on Peacock. Well, I think there has been from the
31:11
Speaker 1: very beginning such lurid fascination with the way in which
31:16
Speaker 1: Casey lies that I think that kind of gripped the public,
31:19
Speaker 1: and that's why this Peacock special is has been caped.
31:23
Speaker 1: You know, she lied about her own pregnancy. She lied
31:28
Speaker 1: and threw her father, George under the bus. She told
31:31
Speaker 1: her attorney that her own brother had molested her. Those
31:35
Speaker 1: are lies. Why I just got to say, George Anthony
31:39
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with baby Kelly's disappearance in death.
31:44
Speaker 1: And I do not believe what she said about Lee Anthony,
31:47
Speaker 1: the brother. I don't believe it. That's right. So the
31:49
Speaker 1: way she lied about this from the stand, there was
31:51
Speaker 1: such verbal versatility, The lies rolled off her tongue. She
31:57
Speaker 1: did not lie from the stand. She never took a sand.
32:01
Speaker 1: You know, her images were plastered on the media so much.
32:04
Speaker 1: I think I imagine she took the stand and I
32:06
Speaker 1: think her images were plastered so many times. Is that
32:10
Speaker 1: just like uh, looking at the at the snake exhibited
32:14
Speaker 1: the school at the zoo, we were all fascinated with
32:18
Speaker 1: her life because they came so fast and furious. And
32:22
Speaker 1: what I think is fascinating about this case is that
32:25
Speaker 1: she even embroiled her own parents in the life. Do
32:28
Speaker 1: you remember when Cindy took the stand and said that
32:31
Speaker 1: she was the one who searched for chloroform? So not
32:35
Speaker 1: only did Casey lie, then she began to compel her
32:38
Speaker 1: own family to lie. And then the stories just became
32:42
Speaker 1: thicker and thicker. And I think that, you know, the
32:46
Speaker 1: public is very vulnerable to lies. I think they're they're
32:49
Speaker 1: fascinated by it, but I think they they want to see, like,
32:52
Speaker 1: what is Casey Anthony gonna say? Now, well, I have
32:56
Speaker 1: news for you. She's going to say the same thing
32:58
Speaker 1: she always did. She's just gonna I and lie in life.
33:01
Speaker 1: You know, I think this period of Casey's life was
33:04
Speaker 1: very exciting for her. Well, I mean you heard what
33:07
Speaker 1: Rob Dick said. She's had many cameras are out there,
33:09
Speaker 1: Hey look at me, Jackie and ask us. And this
33:12
Speaker 1: is while her daughter's missing and her father's out in
33:14
Speaker 1: the hot sun manning a HQ to find the baby.
33:18
Speaker 1: Was that you jumping in Dick? Yeah? Can I add, yes,
33:22
Speaker 1: you know it's It's not something that she was great
33:24
Speaker 1: at lying. It's something that she's lied all her life.
33:28
Speaker 1: I mean even before this, you know, she's bragging about
33:31
Speaker 1: she's working on two college degrees. She hasn't even finished
33:34
Speaker 1: high school. She doesn't have a babysitter, she always had
33:37
Speaker 1: a nanny. It was always her projecting herself to be
33:40
Speaker 1: bigger than she really was. Why don't you call her
33:43
Speaker 1: the crew's director because that was her attitude the whole time.
33:46
Speaker 1: She had just you know, you imagine a cruise director
33:50
Speaker 1: is just always that bubbly, Hey, let's have fun. Today's
33:53
Speaker 1: about me and we're going to do something fun. It's
33:57
Speaker 1: not oh my gosh, I'm sitting in the corner crying
34:00
Speaker 1: because I don't know where my daughter is. I sure
34:02
Speaker 1: as h W wouldn't be in the corner my child
34:04
Speaker 1: is missing. I would be out there looking everywhere. I
34:08
Speaker 1: can even imagine. And the whole time, you got John
34:11
Speaker 1: w Deal, this high profile lawyer representing the so called
34:14
Speaker 1: nanny who says, I've never met this woman. What is
34:17
Speaker 1: she talking about? To Alexis Terrestchuck joining US Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter, Hi, Alexis, take a listen, inside edition.
34:25
Speaker 1: For the first time, we're seeing body camp footage of
34:29
Speaker 1: cops responding to Casey Anthony's nine one call. This girl
34:37
Speaker 1: has been harassing me for a while. The woman in
34:39
Speaker 1: the fedora is Casey Anthony, the notorious mom who was
34:42
Speaker 1: acquitted ten years ago for the murder of her daughter Kayley.
34:46
Speaker 1: We the jury finally defendant not guilty. Now she's back
34:50
Speaker 1: in the news and in a familiar setting, a bar.
34:54
Speaker 1: She's telling a cop that the altercation at the bar
34:56
Speaker 1: in Florida was over a guy. Why did she like
35:01
Speaker 1: what happened the same person for a couple of years,
35:05
Speaker 1: Malcolm Alison with your partner, one of your sergeants. That's right.
35:09
Speaker 1: The guy Casey says they were arguing over is a
35:12
Speaker 1: police sergeant in West Palm Beach. Whether they're together not together.
35:17
Speaker 1: She got upset that he had texted me. I let
35:19
Speaker 1: her know that he had and she came aside with
35:22
Speaker 1: joy drink. Her name is Almamoya. Okay, let me get
35:26
Speaker 1: this trade to license tresscheck. She doesn't call nine one
35:30
Speaker 1: one when her daughter goes missing, but she does call
35:34
Speaker 1: nilone one when her blouse gets wet at a bar
35:36
Speaker 1: exactly so this is in the middle of a pandemic.
35:39
Speaker 1: She's in a bar and she says, this woman comes up,
35:43
Speaker 1: but they've been texting. Of course, don't notice. Casey says,
35:46
Speaker 1: they have been texting because this woman accused Casey of
35:50
Speaker 1: hooking up with her boyfriend while this woman was still
35:52
Speaker 1: dating him. So Casey is this woman's boyfriend is cheating
35:56
Speaker 1: on her with Kasey Anthony. This woman's boyfriend is a
35:58
Speaker 1: police officer and is hooking up with Casey Anthony, former
36:03
Speaker 1: accused murderer, and they get so this woman comes to
36:06
Speaker 1: a bar. They've been texting and Casey apparently is taunting her. Yes,
36:10
Speaker 1: I did hook up with him. And this woman comes
36:12
Speaker 1: to the bar, she throws a drink at her, big deal,
36:15
Speaker 1: and Casey called nine one one, and then he involves
36:18
Speaker 1: kind of everybody else in the bar, trying to get
36:20
Speaker 1: them all on her side. But this is all caught
36:23
Speaker 1: on body's cam footage. I bet West Palm BD is
36:26
Speaker 1: so proud that one of their officers is dating taught
36:30
Speaker 1: mom Casey Anthony, and not only that, gets into a
36:33
Speaker 1: hair fight in a bar over him. Man, I would
36:37
Speaker 1: hide in shame if I were that cop, So let
36:40
Speaker 1: me understand. Anybody on the panel, please jump in. Here's
36:44
Speaker 1: her chance. She's gotten out of jail, she got acquitted.
36:47
Speaker 1: Here's her chance to do something good in this world.
36:51
Speaker 1: Here's her chance because even the center on the side
36:56
Speaker 1: of Christ went to heaven that night because he did
36:59
Speaker 1: something good at the very end. Here's her a chance
37:03
Speaker 1: to devote herself to doing good things for other people,
37:07
Speaker 1: helping somebody else. And instead she pops up in the
37:12
Speaker 1: news at bar after bar, getting in arguments, doing shots
37:19
Speaker 1: and hot pants. Not that I care what she wears
37:21
Speaker 1: or doesn't wear, not the church lady. But now we're
37:25
Speaker 1: supposed to tune into Peacock to hear quote her truth.
37:30
Speaker 1: What a load of bs. I mean, I could smell
37:33
Speaker 1: it from here. I mean, does anybody disagree? Please jump in.
37:39
Speaker 1: This is not communist China. People. You can say what
37:41
Speaker 1: you want. The worst part is she could come out
37:43
Speaker 1: and tell the truth and nothing had happened to her,
37:45
Speaker 1: but you couldn't believe that her truth is never the truth.
37:48
Speaker 1: Now and jump in. Deal now, I'm just saying it,
37:51
Speaker 1: you know, to think that she's going to, you know,
37:54
Speaker 1: change into a good person. It's just it's not in
37:57
Speaker 1: her DNA and it figures I can change the stripes. Yeah.
38:00
Speaker 1: I always hold out hope that somebody can make a
38:04
Speaker 1: good decision, even at the end. But it ain't happening here.
38:08
Speaker 1: What Joe Scott, Yeah, the truth, the truth was laying
38:10
Speaker 1: on that autopsy table and at an emmy's office. That
38:15
Speaker 1: was the truth. And the problem is is that this
38:18
Speaker 1: person has never been held accountable in her entire life,
38:22
Speaker 1: even to the point, even to the point where she
38:26
Speaker 1: would allow this little precious angel to decompose out in
38:31
Speaker 1: the woods. If you want to seek truth, if you
38:34
Speaker 1: want to know your truth, that's that's her truth. I
38:37
Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to show Kelly Anthony's bones on
38:41
Speaker 1: that autopsy table. I remember cops were out there morning,
38:46
Speaker 1: noon and night under a tent with spotlights, even to
38:50
Speaker 1: trot and find light. What are their two hundred and
38:52
Speaker 1: fifty bones in the body? The little piece of her
38:56
Speaker 1: finger they would find dragged around by animals. I bet
39:00
Speaker 1: they're not going to show that, or maybe they will
39:04
Speaker 1: for ratings, we wait as justice and false. Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: crimed the story, signing off Goodbye friend.