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Paywall Podcast: Floyd Schofield vs Lucas Bahdi Final Takes · Big Dog Lukie Boxing Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk a little Lucas body.
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  SPEAKER_00: I always do this Floyd Schofield, Lucas body.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, there's a weight thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, I look super burnt out.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is because I am doing adult stuff right now.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not right now, but I did adult stuff all day today.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: The burnt out house husband look is in and I look super bald up top.
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  SPEAKER_00: Be sure to hit the heart button.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me know what you think.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for those that are living under a rock and I assume,
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: let me double check just to make sure I can hear myself
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_00: because I've had tech issues all throughout today.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
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  SPEAKER_00: We're just going to pretend...
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  SPEAKER_00: That it's working.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the sound is good.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Anderson Perez.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Anderson, if you want to jump on and you got free time, feel free to jump on over.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: We love it.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: I want to give my initial thoughts because a lot of people called my phone today
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: and were like, what do you make of this?
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to pretend even though everyone on this chat and everyone listening after
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: the fact is super smart.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: These are the smartest people in boxing, in my opinion, are the people that follow my Substack.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: Schofield initially comes in 0.6 overweight.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe the reasoning and rationale that I heard through a Fight Hub TV interview,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is one of the industry leaders, was that he woke up late.
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  SPEAKER_00: He didn't jog it off.
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  SPEAKER_00: He went to the bathroom and it totally was a non-issue.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, it happens, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think that there's a bigger contention we'll get into maybe with
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  SPEAKER_00: a fighter like Asa Stevens, who we'll talk about in a minute.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Asa Stevens...
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  SPEAKER_00: Also had trouble making weight from what I hear.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then he pushed his opponent,
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  SPEAKER_00: which I,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: his opponents,
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  SPEAKER_00: local guy,
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  SPEAKER_00: maybe he was talking,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I also feel like you're kind of fighting yourself in those instances,
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  SPEAKER_00: but we'll get to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: The, um, so body or not body, Scofield makes weight.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a rehydration, 10 pounds.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe it's in the morning from the conversations and the way people are framing it tomorrow.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: He'll step on the scale.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: And they will fight or not fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: They'll make sure he has to be,
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe, 145 is the number 10 pounds over a championship weight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Body came in at 134.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's about what I'm looking for from a championship weight from guys
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  SPEAKER_00: who have never fought for a world title.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of what I want to see.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to see somebody that's never fought for a belt,
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  SPEAKER_00: really almost overtrain and come in on that lower end of the weight.
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  SPEAKER_00: When Floyd Schofield came in,
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  SPEAKER_00: the first thing I thought was not a bad thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: but like, you know, he's not all that active as a fighter.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And with Schofield, he's 23, I believe, maybe a little bit older, maybe a little younger.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, the body grows, you know, the body's not a finite.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's it's changing,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: and the first thing I thought was maybe this is the same old same weight cut and
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  SPEAKER_00: the body isn't the same old same.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: So if you look at Schofield, he is really in tip top shape.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's really, really fit, strong, carries a lot of muscle.
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  SPEAKER_00: But part of me wonders,
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  SPEAKER_00: is this going to be is he pushing the limits of a lightweight frame at this point
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  SPEAKER_00: in his age because he looks pretty dense.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_00: So that was something I thought.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then I'm also thinking about something else, and this is Lukie Deep, amateur boxing nerd.
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  SPEAKER_00: Schofield,
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  SPEAKER_00: from my memory,
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  SPEAKER_00: and this is terrible,
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember that he fought Rasheem Jefferson Jr.,
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  SPEAKER_00: one of my favorite amateurs,
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  SPEAKER_00: who you guys will never see as a pro because of just unfortunate stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I believe he had a disqualification loss in that amateur tournament.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know Charles Lolo Harris beat him in the amateurs.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Lolo,
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  SPEAKER_00: when Lolo does his thing,
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  SPEAKER_00: especially as an amateur boxer,
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  SPEAKER_00: move around, touch you, it's hard to get in the bag against a guy like Lolo.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a tough cookie.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that being said, disqualifications in amateur fights don't happen all that much.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they don't happen in national tournaments.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I vaguely feel like he had a few of those
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  SPEAKER_00: because I feel like I heard people talking and maybe they were talking mess
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  SPEAKER_00: and maybe I should do, you know what?
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: This is unfounded.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let me go and actually do research.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just terrified because I'm doing the dual stream thing right now
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  SPEAKER_00: and it crapped out on me earlier today and I almost had a panic attack.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's not be lazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Floyd Schofield, Box Wreck Gangster.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's go in here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I was right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Rasheem Jefferson, Disqualification, Wisconsin.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was 2019 June.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's see if there's a couple more.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Dorian Khan, disqualification, 2018.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then he lost.
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  SPEAKER_00: He beat Adolfo Gomez by disqualification.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's like a pattern of disqualifications.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's another one, Miguel Santana.
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  SPEAKER_00: So he does have.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I know people are saying, what are you bringing up these amateur disqualifications for?
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm bringing up the amateur disqualifications for is with Schofield,
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: it's always this fight is going to be about focus, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Just, you know, bodies doesn't bring to the table, at least to me, from what I've seen a body.
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  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't bring the athletic attributes.
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  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't bring the gifts that may be...
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: Schofield does.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he hits as hard because they're both really big punchers,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I think that Schofield's probably more of an athlete.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's got more dynamic things he can do.
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  SPEAKER_00: But for Schofield and for many very elite,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say kind of the sport maybe comes a little easier to them,
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  SPEAKER_00: more coordinated, athletic people.
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  SPEAKER_00: The hardest thing is focus, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And those disqualifications in the amateurs...
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  SPEAKER_00: Are something that I keep going back to because with body,
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  SPEAKER_00: he reminds me of Claudio Moreo who fought Xavier Martinez,
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  SPEAKER_00: who I know pretty darn well from Sacramento.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Moreo to me,
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  SPEAKER_00: Xavier was doing really good and he just took him into that eighth round
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  SPEAKER_00: and he dropped him twice.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then Xavier righted the ship, won the fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: But Moreo took him into that deep end and was trying to stop him late.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_00: And with fighters like this,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think Schofield,
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  SPEAKER_00: the difficulty of this fight for him,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's his fight to win and lose because he has more attributes, right?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: But now you have this bull crap of the weigh-in.
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  SPEAKER_00: You got an extra weigh-in tomorrow, which isn't great, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because that's more stuff to deal with,
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  SPEAKER_00: more stuff to ponder, more stuff to think about, mind races, etc.,
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  SPEAKER_00: But this fight is about focus, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: This fight is the equivalent.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's a world championship fight that's the equivalent of jumping rope for 36 minutes straight.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can't take your eye off the ball because if you take your eye off the ball,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you take your foot,
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  SPEAKER_00: your focus,
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  SPEAKER_00: your anything, you're in trouble because not Schofield, body is waiting, bro.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's waiting for that one moment for you to Bring your jab hand low and then he'll attack.
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  SPEAKER_00: He did it to Sylve.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I think now,
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  SPEAKER_00: albeit he's working with a new coach,
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  SPEAKER_00: maybe that's going to change some things of his style.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe what I'm saying isn't true.
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  SPEAKER_00: But to me,
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  SPEAKER_00: body is someone who And we all learn things in fights,
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  SPEAKER_00: whether you're a writer,
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  SPEAKER_00: whether you're a boxer,
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  SPEAKER_00: we all learn things, trainers, and we all pick up on something.
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  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it's right and sometimes it's wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's how you literally get a bad habit.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm over explaining, but it's trying to lead to a point and make it fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: One man show.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I've done this podcast probably about two times already.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'm doing another podcast in 30 minutes because I'm sicko.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it's the love of the game.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is these are my club fights.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: These are my club fights.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm on the bench doing my club show fights and
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_01: we're doing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: With body, when he knocks out Sylve.
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  SPEAKER_00: That, I feel like, confirmed to him, okay, if I'm patient, this style works.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he was essentially losing the fight,
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  SPEAKER_00: but he was putting on educated pressure with Sylv that set up the knockout.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that was a gift and a curse because his very next performance,
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe, was a majority decision.
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought he won the fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was on Jake Paul, Mike Tyson.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was a very anticlimactic performance.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was an anticlimactic fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't a spectacular performance.
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  SPEAKER_00: And honestly,
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  SPEAKER_00: I thought coming off of that big performance,
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  SPEAKER_00: signing with MVP, I wanted to see more.
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  SPEAKER_00: And to be perfectly honest with you,
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  SPEAKER_00: if Lucas body kept fighting and didn't get a world title shot,
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  SPEAKER_00: he inevitably would lose at least fighting the way he was
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  SPEAKER_00: because his punch out puts too low.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now for Schofield,
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  SPEAKER_00: He looked amazing against Tevin Farmer,
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  SPEAKER_00: but what people forget is Rene's Telliz Karan,
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  SPEAKER_00: who's much busier,
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  SPEAKER_00: more active in your face,
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  SPEAKER_00: built like a fire hydrant, knocked out Carlos Balderos, always reinvents himself.
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  SPEAKER_00: He dropped Schofield in the late rounds.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a little bit of panic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Schofield, I believe, missed the stool, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So for me...
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: This fight is all about, and how are we doing, Hardenar?
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for jumping on the stream right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: We appreciate you.
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  SPEAKER_00: For me, this fight is really about can Schofield – it's not just
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  SPEAKER_00: about – I think everyone's going to be like,
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_00: okay, it's about talent and focus and this and that.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: Or I mean talent and ability and X's and O's.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's going to be a level of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But there's also a level of Schofield's probably quicker.
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  SPEAKER_00: Schofield's probably got more tools.
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  SPEAKER_00: But can he work within himself with what body gives him
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  SPEAKER_00: to just win – He's like Marquez in that sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he also isn't crazy.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's actually weird.
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  SPEAKER_00: Lukie says,
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  SPEAKER_00: Lucas body fights like Marquez,
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  SPEAKER_00: which isn't true per se,
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: but there is a comparison to body in the sense that body's a low output version
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: of Marquez where he's very accurate and he uses his punches kind of like his words
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: in interviews where he doesn't use them.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't just do a one man podcast.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very,
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: very short I don't love a guy going into his first world title fight
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  SPEAKER_00: with it happening, but you know, things happen.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Now there's going to be lingering anxiety questions around tomorrow's weigh-in.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's probably going to be a non-issue.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: They're probably both going to come in.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it always feels like with Schofield, there's lingering things going on.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's outside distractions.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: When he fought Shakur Stevenson, there were outside distractions.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: Before the Silva fight, he gets injured.
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  SPEAKER_00: Always feels like there's outside distractions.
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  SPEAKER_00: And with body distractions, It feels like he gives you no bulletin board material.
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  SPEAKER_00: He gives you no motivation to do better against him.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's very plain, shows up, and he can really fight.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: I think what makes this fight so interesting is...
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  SPEAKER_00: Body, to me, is somewhat of an overachiever who's very humble.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Schofield is someone that fits the traditional star in America that a lot
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  SPEAKER_00: of writers and promoters want to build a guy as.
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  SPEAKER_00: He has all the traits.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see the power.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see the athleticism.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: You see the personality between him and his dad.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: It is what people like to promote.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: And yet we have questions.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can he do it?
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he's in this big high profile position.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk real quick about this undercard.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: Ricardo Sandoval is returning.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: I really wanted to see him in with Oscar Collazo.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: I have questions around Collazo.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's a very good fighter,
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  SPEAKER_00: but I think we've anointed him as a star and a pound for pound level guy
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: when he's Let's go deep nerd on you.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yabuki, the flyweight, he's a pretty good guy.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ricardo Sandoval versus Yabuki could make the case for a pound for pound level fighter.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: So for me, Colazo looks the part, but I don't love Yabuki.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: A non-multidivision world champion who fights at 105 pounds,
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: who gets hit a lot and uses his physicality as a weapon.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't necessarily love the idea of just throwing him into the pound for pound list.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then just,
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: once a guy goes in the pound for pound list,
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: I just feel like people just, oh yeah, he's pound for pound guy.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: And there's no reason because to me,
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: someone like my guy,
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oshaki Foster, Man,
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  SPEAKER_00: he's got a lot of good wins and people act like it's unheard of to put him
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: at like eight or seven.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I think Shock Foster is really high on this fictional pound for pound list.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of the top fighters in the sport.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to see What type of fighter Colaza was
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: because Ricardo Sandoval is naturally bigger.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was probably a bad matchup in theory unless Colaza was special
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: because Sandoval,
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: obviously early in his career, he fought my guy, Brent Venegas, won a close fight.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Brent actually dropped him, followed Sandoval's career for a very long time.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: He's been a kind of a road warrior overachiever who now is
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: a unified champion who'd beat Kenshiro Taraji,
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: who I like to call the guy that runs into you.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: And just kind of has a style only a mother could love.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I wanted to see that fight because it's like it answers a lot of questions.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Sandoval's been up and down.
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  SPEAKER_00: Big physical guy.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't surprise me if he got old overnight.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then Collazo's been anointed as this top-notch pound-for-pound level guy.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: But he fights at 105 pounds when he knocked out the long-reigning Thai champion two years ago.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: On that golden boy card, and I think it was Saudi.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's a big win, but then it's like every fight since then has been inconsequential.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_00: I've been disappointed in his lack of unification bouts.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: Against Sandoval, that was good.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: When he gets injured, I don't really, I'm not very excited about this fight.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Jamal Harvey, I think the world of him, he's in with a guy who's got a good record.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: But let's be honest, at this point, Jamal...
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Jamal's going to be tough, right?
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think he's one of the fastest fighters in the lightweight division,
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: especially coming off his Olympic run in 2024.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: He hits really hard and he's not satisfied.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Jamal's not satisfied with being an undercard fighter.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: He's not satisfied being like, okay, this is good.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm here.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: He wants more.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the dangerous thing about a guy like Jamal Harvey is he's not like,
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: man, I can't wait to go on this show.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't love being on these co-features.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's ready to make his mark.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing no one talks about with Jamal is...
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Pro debut, everyone's watching Olympian.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: I believe his second fight was at Madison Square Garden.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: Third fight or so was a big TikTok card with Amanda Serrano.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: I know that sounds hilarious.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Big TikTok card, but it was a big TikTok card.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was a big, he was moved up on the card.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: So Jamal isn't just your average fighter.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's in these high profile positions now.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: That I think a lot of people don't realize.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: He's handling being in pressure-filled spots as well as you can.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: This week, me and Jason Langandor for The Good Fight, we interviewed Naomi Valle.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out my girl, Naomi Valle.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: She is in a good fight.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: And the cool thing about that interview,
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: if you want to go check it out, her first English language interview.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: She's training with Jose Benavidez Sr.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that she's an interesting fighter to watch because...
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: There's a pretty big age gap between her and her sister,
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yo Costa Valle, but I think she wants to make her own name for herself.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: And she's in a division where there's going to be fights.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: And if she chooses to fight for a while,
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: she's someone where like,
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: Shariah L.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: Brown, or is it Shariah Brown L., the great amateur who just signed with MVP.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: This is a comparable opponent who Shariah just beat.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's a fight down the road.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: So that's a really good matchup.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's an exciting fight.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: The fight I really like is shout out to Shreveport,
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: Louisiana, where my guy Baz in the chat was with me.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: We were roommates for that trip.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: Mikey Dahlman fought on that card.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: He was an undercard guy.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: His manager was trying to sell him to everybody that was in the fighter hotel.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Really nice guy.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he's fighting Grant Flores,
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: who I think Is probably the golden boy prospect that's kind of gotten gotten away
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: from people.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: He is in the similar vein.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Him and Jose Tito Sanchez are kind of those Ryan Garcia,
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: Virgil Ortiz, Floyd Schofield homegrown.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: They would fight on a Thursday night show and build up into a main event guy.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: Grant Flores has a tremendous motor.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's a really good Mexican pressure fighter from the Coachella Valley.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I am really excited to see this matchup
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: because Mikey Dallman sure he's had some losses,
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: but like whenever you meet someone, you're like, okay, that's good.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: And Flores, you know, I went down.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was at the time we, it was Eric priest versus her coward.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I got a travel budget to go cover the golden boy show at commerce casino.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember he was the person that stood out most.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: It was him and Caden Griffins were the two big standouts.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: And it's crazy to think in a couple of months, that's going to be two years ago.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: I got a call.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, can you go down to this show?
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, we'll do it.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Got to always do that when you get the calls.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let me look over this.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Asa Stevens.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: I teased that at the top.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Asa Stevens comes in on weight, but he's coming off a draw.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think he's one of these guys that maybe doesn't have a weight class.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: Not fully sure what weight he's fighting at.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Really good amateur.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: His career has never really gotten off the ground, if you ask me.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's kind of always been stop-start, never gotten the fights in.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: From Hawaii, I believe he's now training in Las Vegas, etc.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: He's fighting a guy, undefeated local guy.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: If you look at the guy he's fighting,
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: let me see the guy's name because I'm so scared to leave this.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so scared to leave this.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so scared.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's going to freeze and then I'm going to get kicked out.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: He's fighting Christian Williams in this fight.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a good fight.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: And Asa Stevens is a guy who I think, if anything, is boring.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: I always think of him like Dallas Calipio,
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: where they were just kind of indifferent, boring interviews.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: Him being fired up kind of surprised Beto.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: I feel as though this is a real test of a fight.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't think that because Williams on paper isn't as talented as him.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: But let me look at the weight class this is at.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because his last fight that was a draw was at 128.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't look all that great against Jurin Dananjian,
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: which I'm sure I said that absolutely perfectly right.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Box Rec has to confirm I'm a human and not AI.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: So this research is going to,
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: this little research project is going to take a little slower than we got
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: to do it twice.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's see what, wait, actually, you know what?
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's in my email too, but we'll just look and see.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um,
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Asa Stevens was a really good amateur at flyweight.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: And it's kind of tricky when these guys are real,
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: real young and they have success at flyweight and then they have
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: to figure out what their pro weight division is.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: And he's a little bit stocky.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm curious to see how that fight goes.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: Not because I think Williams is going to be a blue chip prospect,
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: but it's also like, what's the evolution of Asa Stevens at this point?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: Now let's flip over to some talking points that I'm going to do before we get out of here.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Canelo and Billy undercard was announced.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And though I'm not,
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even,
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not even going to bring up the name of the opponent of Jaime Munguia,
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: but Jaime Munguia, what are you doing?
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, Jaime Munguia, what are we doing here?
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because Jaime Munguia is fighting an opponent that I am unclear who he is.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_00: And I do boxing podcasts and I talk about boxing and I love boxing.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I am unsure who this guy is that he's fighting.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: And by the way,
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: Beck the Bully, Beck Demir Martezuliev, beat Darius Fulgrim, I want to say May 2025.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: I know that I watched Frank and Weenie,
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: the Tim Burton remake of that movie, the night that it happened.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I cried.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: I cried at the end of Frank and Weenie.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Spoiler.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: And this is unacceptable, right?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: And I saw that the WBA is saying that they're going to They're going to review it
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: or whatever, some form of that.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: But we need to, like, this is the problem, right?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because people are saying, okay, what about UBOs?
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: These promoters can hold the belts.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: But the sanctioning bodies have to make sense of stuff, right?
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like Tyson Fury versus Anthony Joshua.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: Why is Murray Agassi of getting demoted?
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and by the way,
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: why was Murray Agassi of In a fight,
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: a title fight, he had just lost to Otto Wallin not that long ago.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: What were the grounds for him being rated so highly?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: What were the accomplishments?
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: Why did he get this position?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: And then as soon as he wins the belt,
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: which probably, you know, he most vulnerable guy in the division, right?
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone's going to probably call out that guy
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: because they think everybody will be like, oh, I can beat him.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Then all of a sudden now you've got Fury versus Joshua.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: For a WBA belt.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's silly.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: And now in this one,
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: you've got,
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: you know, Jaime Munguia is fighting some guy and he has a mandatory defense.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: Quite frankly,
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: if a title champion does not fulfill an obligation,
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_00: they should be stripped because they're not behaving like a champion.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's not.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: And this is what drives me nuts about the sport of boxing, right?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Is basic common sense things.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you're a world champion and you have an obligation to defend your title to
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: the number one Title holder or the number one person in that division
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: and you're not doing it, it should be very simple.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: You forfeit your belt.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: But in boxing, sometimes we miss the plot and we don't do simple, basic things.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really hoping that the most obvious answer is here,
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: that the belt is Stripped and Beck gets to fight in a consequential bout for a belt.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I really don't, I don't like the idea of this.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like the idea of this.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like Jaime Munguia coming off one of his best wins against Armando Resendez,
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: kind of a win where you start to go, man, this guy, you know, he's a veteran.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: He had years where he was overhyped because people love a guy that punches,
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: you know, he punches so hard and they go, he's Big puncher, big puncher guy.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, he he almost loses to Dennis Hogan.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: So you got to move him back to be a prospect and baby him for years because he makes money.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then he evolves and he has a decent Canelo fight.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: And you start to go, is he is he a top notch guy?
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then you get this bull crap and you go.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he was who we thought he was.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it's just back to that same old crap.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that goes to another thing.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: Silicius Iglesias is not that.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know what he is?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's the man.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: And all these guys that are saying, okay, he's not fighting nobody or that.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: All he's doing is last night he stops Oliver Zaran.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: You could say Zaran won two rounds, maybe.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: But to win those rounds, he had to take a beating.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Iglesias is so impressive to me because he's a Cuban boxer
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: who can fight off his front foot and his back foot.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: He can beat you by boxing you, and he loves absolutely pummeling and bludgeoning you.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Last night, all he did was educated foot pressure.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, Zoran might have been busier in the first two rounds,
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: but Iglesias didn't look like he had any inkling of wanting that fight to go long.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_00: He wanted to beat him down.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: He wanted to bloody him.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: Sixth round, drops him twice.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Seventh round, towel comes in.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: This comes after stopping Vladimir Shishkin.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: Shishkin,
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_00: by the way,
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: fought Wilkins Matu on the undercard,
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: super middleweight, 21-year-old, and Matu looked lost.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_00: He looked like a guy who just needed athleticism and being young to beat Shishkin.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: Shishkin was out hustling him and busier.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe Matu won a 6-4,
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: 96-94 type win,
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: but it was a drawish type fight where Shishkin was busy Showing veteran tactics,
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: and Mathieu was putting himself on the ropes,
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: looking to land kind of wild punches,
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: expecting the fight to turn around, and it didn't.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Iglesias, to me,
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: and maybe I'm overrating him,
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: and Anderson Perez, you're my guy, you could tell me because you interview him.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: He looks the part of a number one pound for pound level guy.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying he will be, but he has all those attributes.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: And it kind of drives me nuts when you see someone who has the traits of
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: a Gennady Golovkin or traits of these of Nao in a way.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: And he doesn't do the bull crap.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: So you got a guy in an interesting division.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know guys will end up fighting him.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: But he's having to fight,
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: tough Eastern European guys because tough Eastern European guys are
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: the only ones signing up to fight him right now.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: He's hoping for a unification bout against Billy and Canelo.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, they share the same promotion now in Billy and Iglesias.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: And if both have belts, I'm sure it's possible.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: But Iglesias looks like the goods.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: Just quite frankly.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then you got you got other guys in the division.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: You got Jaime Munguia with a WBA belt.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure that's if he's having trouble with Beck the bully,
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: that fight happening and who knows why.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think he's going to sign up for Iglesias,
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: the guy that's just knocking everybody out and out thinking everybody?
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, he's fighting power punchers and breaking them down.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: He fought Evgeny Shevidenko,
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: who was trained by my good friend Eddie Croft, and stopped the guy in one round.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: A guy who in his own right was on the verge of being an IBF title eliminator.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: He's taken really, really good fighters and making them look like nobodies.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: And that's something we don't see.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: And what's even more impressive is he appeared out of thin air.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I wrote the story on the good fight.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Read it at the good fight.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: He appeared out of thin air like a magician.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_00: Inglacius, I call him...
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: The rabbit in the hat boxer, because it's like he peered out of a hat.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: He appeared out of a DAZN telecast.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: When I was covering a fight on boxing scene,
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: he stops a guy in one round that had dropped Edgar Berlanga and gone rounds
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: with Diego Pacheco.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: And he followed it up by knocking out Evgeny Shevdenko in one round.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Then he knocked out San Abeko.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: And then he knocked out another guy who was unbeaten,
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: who was a German puncher, who's never fought since.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: He's a scary, scary dude.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I tell everybody to watch him.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Demetrius Anu was also on that Eye of the Tiger card.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: Me and Dakota will talk about that this weekend.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: He did all right.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that we were a lot of us boxing nerds expected more from him.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: And Luis Santana overachieved
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: and Leila Bodine retained her interim junior lightweight title WBA.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: And if Bumgarner moves up, she will be a world champion and she has earned it.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: She lost to Bumgarner,
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: but she has really become probably the best fighter not named Kira Tapia in
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_00: that division.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's a super nerd women's boxing fight that I'd like to see is her versus Kira Tapia.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'd really like to see that.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: Now let me think, what are the other things I wanted to talk about today?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_00: Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, tickets went on sale.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: And in case you haven't heard, a lot of people want to see the fight.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, the fight is a nostalgia act.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: I compare it to the NES Classic.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you get the NES Classic.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: You plug it into your TV.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: You play Battletoads.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: But you know it's not quite as good as any of the games nowadays.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: But you just want to remember what it was like being 9 or 10.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe playing those games helped bring you to that point, you know.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: And...
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Whether we as maybe me as like a hardcore or whatever you want to call me a nerd
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: and many of the people that enjoy my content who are more specialists
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: and enjoy nuanced modern boxing or maybe even
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: the old stuff like we just like boxing stuff.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: There's no way around it.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's two old guys fighting, right?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's two guys who are no longer.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: Throw in the Nolan Ryan 100 mile an hour fastball.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: But that's OK, right?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because the sport doesn't have enough figures right now to keep the sport up.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: We need more big fights.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: We need people talking about it.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: And these two can get people talking.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, there's an interest.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: I think the problem is When fights like this are our marquee bouts instead of Boots
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: and it's Virgil Ortiz or whatever,
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Abdullah Mason versus William Zepeda,
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: there's a chance you're going to get people to tune in and they're going to say,
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: man, boxing sucks now because it's two old fighters who are past their prime.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: More than likely,
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think Fury knocks out Joshua,
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: but Fury's inconsistent enough where there is some excitement.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_00: There's no reason he should have ever gotten dropped by Francis Ngannou.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: That was pathetic.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's a goofy performance.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: So that's the intrigue for that fight.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_00: But I wanted to bring that up because the ticket sales are there and know nothing
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: about that fight excites me.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I do kind of like the idea that it's on Netflix because it's exposing to a bigger audience.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_00: I also have to kind of question why.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't these younger guys get the spots on these big cards?
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: Why can't we get just a little bit more exposure to them?
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: So that is my paywall podcast.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: I went on a heater today.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: In conclusion, I think that Schofield and Bodhi...
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a really interesting fight.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: It could be a very boring fight,
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_00: but I think it's going to show a lot about both fighters potential.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think Schofield has probably more potential,
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: but body is extremely dangerous because,
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: the most dangerous person is the person that knows who they are and body knows
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: who he is going into this fight.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I think for Schofield.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: A lot is being asked of him, just in a lot of different ways.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: And he has to be very mature at a very young age.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: So if Schofield is able to win in a manner that's really impressive,
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: whether it's just through maturity or through a big knockout, he's a guy.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's right up there with Ryan Garcia and Virgil Ortiz for Golden Boy Promotions.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, thank you guys for sticking with me.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Paywall podcast.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to do this again in about 10 minutes for the good fight,
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: but really brightens my day that I can do this and give you guys a show.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you.