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You Would Make a Great Enneagram Coach | Guest Adam Breckenridge Enneagram 6 · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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SPEAKER_02: Hi, I'm Amy Wicks, a Jesus and Enneagram enthusiast.
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SPEAKER_02: As a wife, mama of three humans, and a fur baby, I get it.
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SPEAKER_02: Juggling entrepreneurship in a family is challenging, but I believe the Lord does want your work to be enjoyable.
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SPEAKER_02: As an Enneagram Type 7, I am all about the fun factor.
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SPEAKER_02: And this podcast is here to help you put the joy back into working mom life.
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SPEAKER_02: So you can see 1 Timothy 6.17 come to pass in your own unique path.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a verse that says that God has given us all things to enjoy.
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SPEAKER_02: And all, well, friends, it means all.
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SPEAKER_02: Motherhood, work from home life, or work out of the home life.
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SPEAKER_02: With the Lord's help, there is truly a way to feel calm, balance, joy, clarity, and peace in any arena of life.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the Simply Fullhearted Podcast, where you can expect solo style and interview style episodes that are full of faith-based concepts, simple ideas, Enneagram insights, alongside practical tips to help you put that smile back on your face when it comes to doing life with Jesus.
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SPEAKER_02: Now get your headphones and head to that big pile of dishes in the sink, or maybe that bathroom that needed cleaning two weeks ago.
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SPEAKER_02: And let's get to learning together.
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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to the first of two bonus episodes headed your way this month of March.
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SPEAKER_02: And by the way, I'd love to know, do you like the bonus episodes?
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I was curious to know if you've ever considered becoming an Enneagram coach.
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SPEAKER_02: It's actually a question I get a lot as far as how did you become an Enneagram coach or what does it take?
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SPEAKER_02: So you see, more than ever right now, we have a mental health crisis on our hands, and we really do need women like you who are equipped to help others with their frustration, overwhelm, and anxiety.
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SPEAKER_02: Becoming an Enneagram coach has truly been one of the most rewarding career choices I've made, and it could be yours as well.
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SPEAKER_02: So today's podcast guest is Pastor Adam Breckinridge, and he's the director of coaching for Become an Enneagram Coach program.
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SPEAKER_02: He is also an Enneagram six, he's a dad to the three girls and a husband to his lifelong friend.
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SPEAKER_02: He shares a lot about his life and what it looks like in his home.
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SPEAKER_02: And I love that part of the conversation.
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SPEAKER_02: Pastor Adam is going to give the scoop today about his Enneagram journey, the becoming an Enneagram coach program, all the details there and what it looks like to become an Enneagram coach right now.
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SPEAKER_02: And then we chat about all nine Enneagram types and specifically each personality type's coaching superpowers.
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SPEAKER_02: As you listen, check out the link in the show notes to learn more about becoming an Enneagram coach right now.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a great thing to add the training to your role as a leader, minister, or mental health professional, or begin a business like I have.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so I see both my wings showing up for me, but kind of as you were hinting at, I'm I'm more associated with my seven wing.
3:24
SPEAKER_00: That part of me really likes to show up.
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SPEAKER_00: So a lot of a lot of seven energy for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Um counterphobic typically is what I've kind of identified that as my uh that that's I see that strategy show up for me a lot, but you know, I can lean in into that self-pres part as well pretty strongly.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: So um I'll I'll tell about my journey of how I discovered the Enneagram in a second, but other you know, really important things about me, Amy, is that um I'm married to my lifelong best friend Carrie.
3:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh we both grew up together and we have three daughters together, uh Lucy Blue, Susannah Jane, and Georgie Love.
4:02
SPEAKER_02: And so uh just love those names.
4:04
SPEAKER_02: They're project.
4:06
SPEAKER_00: Yes, they really they really are the best names.
4:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I just they're um and they're amazing people, and uh and I'm severely outnumbered as the only the only house.
4:17
SPEAKER_00: We have a I know we have a golden doodle and and they made so I when we besides decided to get a dog, I was like, I'm gonna have a I'm gonna have another boy, you know, a boy in the house, and they shot that down.
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SPEAKER_00: So uh then we we we nickname I know we nickname our cars, and so they've named both of our cars uh with these you know female names, and so you are severely outnumbered, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Badly.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: So we got a roomba, Amy, recently.
4:46
SPEAKER_00: You know these little like rope robots?
4:49
SPEAKER_02: They fascinate me, yeah.
4:50
SPEAKER_02: I need one, yeah.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: They're well they're incredible.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: So um my kids name everything, so they're like, we gotta name the Roomba.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, but it's gonna be a dude.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: Yes, the Roomba is gonna be a dude.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: So our Roomba's name is Doug.
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SPEAKER_02: And uh Doug, Doug does the cleaning for you.
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SPEAKER_00: Doug does so honestly, this is a very true story.
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SPEAKER_00: My nine-year-old has a uh note on her bedroom door.
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SPEAKER_00: I did not coach her on this, I didn't ask her to do this, but I could show I could text you a picture of it after this call after this call.
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SPEAKER_00: There's a note on her bedroom door that says, no boys allowed in my room.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, and in parentheses, it says, except for my dad and Doug.
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SPEAKER_02: This is great.
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SPEAKER_02: I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, she's a very smart girl.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: So that's my life.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so we are in uh Northeast Arkansas.
5:43
SPEAKER_00: We're we're from this area.
5:44
SPEAKER_00: We spent 10 years or almost 11 years in Kansas City, which is so cool.
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SPEAKER_02: We found that direction recently because you know, this is my stopping grounds now.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so go Chiefs.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're still like we have some still heavily invested and have some of our deepest lifelong friendships are there in Kansas City, but we're back in kind of the area where we're from.
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SPEAKER_00: And um, I've been in pastoral ministry the last 20 years and still serving as a as a pastor in our church.
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SPEAKER_00: And um, and then I I get to serve as the director of coaching for your Ennegram coach, which means that I get to work with our amazing team to support, equip, and encourage our coaches toward building a thriving coaching practice that really multiplies gospel transformation throughout the world.
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SPEAKER_00: And um, and and that's really what what I love about the Ennegram, Amy, is like, you know, when I discovered the Ennegram, uh, it was like a it was like this uh like a second awakening type experience.
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SPEAKER_00: I it was like 2014, 2015.
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SPEAKER_00: I was pastoring in Kansas City, I hit this massive wall like humans tend to do.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh you can call it burnout, you can call it depression, you can call it a dark night of the soul.
6:52
SPEAKER_00: And it was all those things.
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SPEAKER_00: And I ended up taking a season uh out of preaching.
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SPEAKER_00: I was still doing ministry full time, but I just I stopped preaching for three months just to give myself a little more like emotional margin to kind of process what's going on with me.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: I was having these anxiety attacks and panic attacks, and um, and like relationally was was like leaking and becoming this defensive person that I did, I just didn't want to be this person.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: So I was like, what's going on with me?
7:20
SPEAKER_00: And I um I fell into the care of um Rich Plast, became a my coach.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, if you if anybody you know watching this is familiar with Rich and Cross Point Ministries, and um Rich introduced me to the Enneagram, he's also a fellow six, and I initially approached it with all this skepticism like what is this thing?
7:38
SPEAKER_00: Um there's a weird symbol.
7:39
SPEAKER_02: What does that mean?
7:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was this what is this?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, my like my like theology was like totally getting in the way of me being able just to like accept this tool for what it is, and I was like, the symbol, the yeah, all that stuff was was kind of freaking me out.
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SPEAKER_00: But when I took it and then I started to like, and it told me I was, you know, I type me as a type six.
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SPEAKER_00: I know that's not every time you take an assessment, that's not that's not always the best way to, but for me, when I took the assessment and I saw that I was a six and I began to read about it, there was no question.
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SPEAKER_00: There was, and then anybody that knew me that read about it was like, dude, that's that's you, you know, and the best way I can describe it is I felt like I was living inside Psalm 139, like I felt like the spirit of God was searching me and knowing me, and it was very vulnerable.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I was being known in this way that I'd never felt, and he always knew these things about me, but I but I wasn't on the same page with I didn't know these, I didn't know myself in this way.
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SPEAKER_00: It was like this astonishing clarity, and it was vulnerable, it was painful, it was beautiful, it was exposing and healing, and um, and and just be you know, because uh I don't think I immediately turned around and started like using the Enneagram on other people.
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SPEAKER_00: I think I sat with it for a good season because that's what Rich Rich told me to do.
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SPEAKER_00: He was like, Your temptation is gonna be to turn around and start because you're a pastor, you're gonna turn around and try to create a sermon series out of this immediately and teach it and create a create a whole paradigm of ministry with it.
9:16
SPEAKER_00: But you're but what's gonna happen is you're gonna shortcut the work that God wants to do in you first.
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SPEAKER_00: So I just sat with it for a season, and it was so the way I the way we talk about it at YEC and the way that that I've always talked about it is it's like all the power for transformation lies within the gospel of Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: The scripture's clear about that.
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SPEAKER_00: But what makes the Enneagram so effective is that it's a tool for the gospel.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's like it's this vehicle that the spirit of God can use to drive the gospel into these unchartered terrains of of your story and your soul and these places that you don't want to see.
9:52
SPEAKER_00: That's when we call them blind spots.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you don't see them, you don't want to see them, you don't, you know, and so there's layers of our being that are untouched by Jesus and unaffected by by the gospel.
10:03
SPEAKER_00: And so the Enneagram just has a way of like opening up and accessing the right side of your brain and just getting you into these emotional spaces where the gospel need wants to do is really its best work.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so it became so impactful to me, it had like what God did to me started to happen through me.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I had to, I had to start using it, right?
10:26
SPEAKER_00: Like so it started to come out in my teaching and counseling in the church and coaching, and and um, and so it's it's it's become this this part of my life that um it's just it's it's it's like an essential part of who I am.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like it's it's this tool that I really value and and love to use.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's a little bit of like my kind of like my journey of sort of how I got into this place with in my relationship with the Ennegram, if that's helpful.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's so helpful.
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SPEAKER_02: And in fact, uh the thought that popped my mind, because we haven't talked about this at all this week, but because a lot of people who came across who's who are speaking this week, they they came across it and it was another personality typology, and they were already personality nerds and they they just kind of enjoyed that thing.
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SPEAKER_02: So for you, uh, because in addition to that thought, okay, so I know we have men who have attended the summit and who are part of this, and we we see you, we hear you, but we have the majority are women and the majority are married women who are also moms.
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SPEAKER_02: And a lot of them might be thinking, I wish my husband would say that this was their journey, but that hasn't quite happened.
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SPEAKER_02: Like they have maybe led the Enneagram exploration in their household.
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SPEAKER_02: So for you, what do you think it was that prime the pump, if you will, to be willing to explore the Enneagram for you specifically?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh man, that is a great question, Amy.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: That was not planned, but no, it's not.
11:59
SPEAKER_00: It's not, but but this is a great conversation.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'll tell you what it was that primed the pump, is it was for the first time.
12:07
SPEAKER_00: Here's what it is.
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SPEAKER_00: I I I led in my through college and through my early adult life.
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SPEAKER_00: I led out of my, and I'm gonna have to walk through some shame to say this, but I led out of my giftedness and I led out of my competence.
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SPEAKER_00: And I'm not the most gifted or competent guy in the room, but I've got some.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I led from those places.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus was merciful enough to send a wrecking ball and knock me off my horse.
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SPEAKER_00: And what primed the pump, that was what primed the pump for me.
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SPEAKER_00: And so, to put it another way, what primed the pump for me was for the first time ever, I consciously came to the end of myself.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: And I got in touch with my neediness and my weakness, which for men and women is very uncomfortable.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not just that men only struggle with that, but men might have a particular vulnerability to that of like, I don't want to be in touch with my neediness, I don't want to have feelings, I don't want to have I don't.
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SPEAKER_00: So we shame our neediness.
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SPEAKER_00: And for the first time in my adult life, I got in touch with the fact that I'm a needy creature and I'm a dependent creature, which is what Jesus came to show us.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, Jesus came to show us the way to be human in relationship with God and one another and ourselves.
13:30
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's all look, Amy, look at like all the Matthew 18.
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SPEAKER_00: He says, if you want to inherit the kingdom of God, you got to become like a child.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's needy and dependent.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, the vulnerable, right?
13:44
SPEAKER_00: So just just the call of the gospel is a call to trust.
13:48
SPEAKER_00: What's more vulnerable than that?
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SPEAKER_00: You know, what's more needy than that to trust, to lay your life on on Christ?
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SPEAKER_00: Like that's so vulnerable, and it's it's childlike.
13:57
SPEAKER_00: And it and um and and so of course you see that over and over the last are first, well, the last are needy, you know, the outcast are brought in, well, the outcast are needy.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, blessed are those who mourn, those who mourn are needy.
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SPEAKER_00: Blessed are those who are poor in spirit, those who are poor in spirit are needy, the meek are needy, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Um, when you're weak, the power of Christ rests on you.
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SPEAKER_00: So there's this it's this invitation to get back in touch with your heart, which is a needy heart.
14:26
SPEAKER_00: And I I was I led out of strength, Amy.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I was this competent young pastor, and and I climbed the ladders kind of, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: I was like not not super successful, but I was I was doing well.
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SPEAKER_00: And and uh and yeah, that's what primed the pump for me was I I got I got humbled.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I thank you for sharing that.
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SPEAKER_02: I know that was a little detour, but I think there there is an element of resistance to the self-awareness journey.
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SPEAKER_02: And because it's become a hot topic and you know, it's kind of part of the cultural lingo, but I would love to reclaim that.
15:07
SPEAKER_02: And that's part of I think our mission and our passion here is reclaiming that self-awareness journey is to actually know our creator better and to know God better and his character and our need, our desperate, desperate need for him.
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SPEAKER_02: And a lot of times I think sometimes women hit that place a little quicker um circumstances, but becoming a mom, uh, there's a there's a lot of losing yourself in that process.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: And so there tends to be a little bit more synergy maybe around the Enneagram in particular, um, among us moms, because we're like, oh yeah, wait a minute.
15:43
SPEAKER_02: Who am I?
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Why am I responding this way?
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SPEAKER_02: And this isn't what I thought it was going to be.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
15:51
SPEAKER_00: And but hey, just by the way, I don't know if we're if like if we're as we're naming resources, I don't know if there's like a list somewhere that's been published of resources, but like Ronald Rollheiser's book, uh Domestic Monastery, is the best thing that my wife and I ever read.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's it's the best thing that we have.
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SPEAKER_00: I've I have every mom in our church read that and dad.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, like it's the best thing for what you just described of like I became a mom or a stay-at-home dad or just a parent.
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SPEAKER_00: And but especially I feel like moms, like immediately, there's just so much death to self that has to happen.
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SPEAKER_00: And so this this this is what Rollheiser's book is all about.
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SPEAKER_00: It is fabulous.
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SPEAKER_02: So okay, domestic monastery.
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SPEAKER_00: Domestic monastery.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna order it today.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's so good.
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SPEAKER_00: It's you can read it like in one sitting, it's very small.
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SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I'm well into 15 years of parenthood, but I think I still need that book.
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SPEAKER_02: It's so good.
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SPEAKER_02: I love it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, the main reason, not only do I think you're a really awesome guy, and I love, you know, our conversations have been so enriching to me.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: But um, what I am really excited about is that many people have approached me and said, okay, it looks like you're having fun being an Enneagram coach.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: How can I do what you're doing?
17:11
SPEAKER_02: And a no-brainer, it's really easy for me to say, well, you know, your Enneagram coach, Beth McCord, she's your person.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the program, that's how I did my certification.
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SPEAKER_02: It's how I want to encourage other people to explore that avenue.
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SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna talk a little bit about that today.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: You did hint at it before.
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SPEAKER_02: So why don't you tell us a little bit about what that program, that certification program looks like.
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SPEAKER_02: And then we're gonna talk about why each Enneagram type would have fun being an Enneagram coach.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh man, this conversation is so fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So I get to serve as a director of coaching at YEC.
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SPEAKER_00: So I get to work with our coaches and I get to see the fun that they're having and the change that they're experiencing, not only in their personal lives, but in the lives of their clients.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I would love to talk about that.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, when Beth and Jeff McCord founded your Enneagram coach, they did it with a heart and a passion to see lives transformed by the gospel of Jesus.
18:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that's their starting place.
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SPEAKER_00: The gospel changes lives.
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SPEAKER_00: And so they um from day one have have used the Ennegram from a gospel-centered perspective and really have led the way in that, like integrating a gospel-centered framework with um with the tool of the Ennegram.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: And so that's why our mission statement at YEC, if you go to our website, is we we exist to help people see themselves with astonishing clarity with the Ennegram through the lens of the gospel so they can break free from self-condemnation, fear, and shame by knowing and experiencing the unconditional love, freedom, uh, and forgiveness that's found in Christ.
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SPEAKER_00: So like the whole mission is hey, man, we want to work with you know, coaching individuals and couples and families and teams on how to break free from the things that are holding you back so that you can pursue all that God has for you and you can live at, you know, out of your most authentic and the best version of who you really are and who you're made to be in Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: And and where this comes into like our coaching certification program is that um Beth can't do that all by herself.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: She cannot help.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: She can't be millions of people who come her way.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: She cannot help.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and millions is right, like millions of people on our email list and um in our audience.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: And so she might be your Ennegram coach, but let's be honest, she can't be everybody's Ennegram coach.
19:36
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
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SPEAKER_00: So the the one of the biggest ways that we've done this, and she's like steward of the gifts God's given her and multiplied her influence is through through the certification course, which is called Become an Ennegram Coach, B E C.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, which you you uh you took the course.
19:52
SPEAKER_00: I did.
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SPEAKER_02: I was one of the first classes, if you will, years ago.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: And I have been so grateful.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: And in fact, but I really love to not only um it's been kind of fun because I was there, you know, near the beginning of some of that uh rolling out is that getting to be part of the learning process and getting trained under it.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: And then now there's official certification tests that you can take, which I passed, thank goodness.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: Um but recently you guys rolled out an amazing addition to the BEC network.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: And and that is because um a lot of us were looking for maybe some more community ongoing training and ongoing skills.
20:36
SPEAKER_02: And that is the network of coaches that you can choose to be a part of once you join and become, you know, get enrolled in this certification process.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, and I I'm I'm so excited you brought that up.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: So, like, and first of all, just just so you know, like it's it's a it's amazing that we've what we've seen happen with the BEC course.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, like God's been so gracious and faithful.
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SPEAKER_00: Like we've we've now certified over 1500 coaches around the world.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: It's amazing, and like it, and and if you're watching this and you're like, well, well, what kinds of coaches?
21:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, some of these are pastors and ministry leaders, and they want to use which that's how I got into it, right?
21:15
SPEAKER_00: So they these are men and women that want to use the Enneagram as a tool for spiritual formation and care in their congregations and with their leaders and with their staff, and then a lot of these coaches are counselors, therapists, mental health professionals who just want to incorporate the Enneagram into their practice.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, some of the business leaders, business leaders, yeah, organizational leaders, HR directors.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, who just want to cultivate healthy teams, right?
21:38
SPEAKER_00: And if you have a healthy team, you can have a healthy organization, you know.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then a lot of our coaches are, you know, stay at home parents or just just men and women like us who've just experienced so such deep um, like you know, clarity and transformation from the Enneagram that they just want to pay it forward.
21:55
SPEAKER_00: And so they wanna they want to start their own coaching practice and they wanna they want to provide.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: For their families by doing something that they love.
22:03
SPEAKER_00: And um, and that's what's really cool, Amy, is like what I get to hear over and over, and I know Beth and Jeff do as well, uh, from our coaches, is that um their lives are being changed because they're they're doing meaningful work that they love and getting paid for it.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: Like so um, and they're and most of us are like doing it from home over like we're like we're doing right now, like having this Zoom call, which I mean, in a all the time.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: That's how I do my appointments.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like in a in a in a world of like vocational uncertainty and and quarantine and all that kind of stuff, um, like that's that's a big blessing, right?
22:41
SPEAKER_00: To be able to kind of do that, do that work from home.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: And so basically what I'm saying is like that they're they're they're increasing their own income for their families by doing something they love.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: But then what's amazing is they they're getting a front row seat at watching God change people's lives um in the lives of their clients.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: So that's that's why you know Beth and Jeff created the BEC course.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: And um, and what you're what you're talking about is like we've been listening to our coaches, like Beth and Jeff for years have been listening to like their coaches and and trying to find out like what what are our coaches saying they need in order to build a thriving coaching business?
23:18
SPEAKER_00: And so after years of just listening, learning, dreaming, we have now launched your Enneagram coach, the network, um, which is what you were talking about.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: So um, man, the network's amazing.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: So it's basically just you know exists to help our coaches grow their practices and and and increase their coaching skills so that they can have a greater impact on the lives of their clients.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's basically what it is.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: And so kind of the biggest features um that you know I would hit on there is the network has this robust directory platform.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: So on the directory, you know, you you have your your we coach you on how to like provide a quality headshot.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: You have uh your own page that allows you to advertise yourself as a coach and and highlight your unique approach and your special skill set and even your professional background and testimonials, it's all featured there for you.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: And you can create custom coaching packages there and um link it all to PayPal so that people can you know can book you.
24:18
SPEAKER_00: You you have your own directory link that you can share on your social media accounts and share within your community.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: And so, really, um, for a lot of our coaches who don't want to like do the marketing and um all like all that side of coaching, the business entrepreneurial side, they just want to do what they do best, which is coach.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: What the network does is it makes it possible for you to find and convert and retain clients really easily.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: Um and and here's what's amazing about it is we're gonna send them to you.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: So um yeah, I mean, come on, for those who are thinking about like, I think I do want to be a coach, but what about this business piece?
25:00
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's a no-brainer.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: How do I find that the biggest questions that we find when when people are interested in becoming a coach is how do I market myself and how am I gonna find clients?
25:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, and so with the directory platform as part of the network, like we're gonna help you do all the heavy lifting of the on the marketing side of things by building your page, then you just get to share your link.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: But also we are gonna feed you clients.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: We're the like Amy, we're the only large Ennegram platform that's actively getting coaching clients for our coaches.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: So we kind of talked about this a second ago.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: It's like uh we've had over two million people take our assessment.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
25:42
SPEAKER_00: We I know we we we average more than a thousand people per day, sometimes as many as 3,000 a day taking our assessment.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: We have a million people on our email list, and um, we're gonna be constantly sending traffic to our coaches, sending people to the directory to find a coach.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: And so it's almost like you know, uh like Ubering clients to coach.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
26:05
SPEAKER_02: There you go.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: We want to get clients uh in the hands of coaches because we believe that's that's what's good for the world.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: And so um, yeah, so you know, our coach for our coaches, they just get to focus on what they do best.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: Now I'll say one more piece about that, uh, and then I'll I'll I'll try to shut up about it.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: But um it's great, no problem.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: You just got me talking about stuff that I'm I love it, it's good.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: That's what people are here for, yeah.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: So, in addition to all that, about you know, the directory, as amazing as that is, through the network, you'll also be able to uh continue to grow your skills because the network places a huge focus on professional development.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: So uh with monthly classes, so each month we take uh a different topic and um I interview experts on on the on those topics, topics like, you know, um the financial side of your business or uh topics like how to remain a non-anxious presence with your clients, um, you know, topics that are specifically Enneagram focused, like how to do a typing session.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: Like we actually just recorded um a professional development series of professional development videos of of Beth doing live typing sessions.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, how do you do a typing session, which is a question we get a lot?
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, we're gonna we're gonna continue to try to help our coaches stay sharp and grow in the Enneagram knowledge, grow in their coaching skills and their skills as a business owner.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: So, really through the network, our heart is to support, encourage, and equip our coaches toward building a thriving coaching practice that really blesses them and blesses the world.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: And that's that's what we're really excited about uh for our coaches.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: So um yeah, is that does that help answer your question a little bit about so good?
27:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it just makes me proud all over again that I get to be a part of this unique network, not only just you know, part of those who have gotten certified or are going through certification and the community that's built there, but then this additional network and both those who are looking to be coached and those who are going to be a coach, um, there's a lot of win here that I think is worth bragging about for sure.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: We're we're very excited and uh and very grateful.
28:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, God is just He's been very faithful to YEC and through YEC.
28:20
SPEAKER_00: And so we're we're really, really thankful we get to be a part of what he's up to.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, now for the fun part.
28:26
SPEAKER_02: I know that um again, people have come to me.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: Why did you decide to be a Enneagram coach?
28:33
SPEAKER_02: What do you think of it?
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Do you like it?
28:35
SPEAKER_02: What have you learned, you know, gained by it?
28:37
SPEAKER_02: And all sorts of different questions, which I love because I really do one of the highlights of what I get to do with Simply Wholehearted is the coaching piece.
28:46
SPEAKER_02: I love this sitting one-on-one across from Zoom.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: Um, I've also done community groups as well, that element of helping others understand different, you know, people and in their home and in their community and with one another.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: And so um, it's just such a joy.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: So, but I think I approached becoming a coach very uniquely that has something to do with my personality.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: So I thought it would be fun is that we just kind of give a high view of why the type, each type would have fun, why they would make a great Enneagram coach.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: And in honor of the fact that you lead as a type six, we're gonna start with what the sixes because let's do it.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: We gotta right, we gotta do that.
29:31
SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna give them first chair here.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: We get to lead in.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: So tell us, Adam, why what would be fun for a type six?
29:42
SPEAKER_00: I'll do it.
29:42
SPEAKER_00: And and every type just every type will can excel at being any encouraged.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: And so um, and I'll I'll I'll start with sixes.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: I would love to start with sixes.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: So perfect.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I'll I'll try to be quick.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: I'll just try to give you give you a fly over.
29:56
SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, type sixes like myself, uh, you would make a great coach because of your loyalty and courage, and you provide a stable, faithful presence that makes people feel safe.
30:07
SPEAKER_00: And I have found that like that is crucial.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: It's that vulnerability stuff we were talking about a second ago.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: Um, so sixes, you know, you're a great troubleshooter and a problem solver, and you have this ability to remain calm and competent in a crisis.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, and like Jesus, you're loyal and reliable, and you will persevere with your clients to the very end.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: And you offer your clients a combination of warmth and wit uh during tense situations.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: Sixes understand that sometimes laughter is not a coping mechanism, sometimes laughter really is the best medicine.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: So um that's that's that's I'm gonna stop right there.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: I could I could go on and on.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know we can.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: That's type six.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: So you mean to jump back?
30:48
SPEAKER_00: You mean jump back up to type one?
30:49
SPEAKER_02: No, let's go to seven.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna make our way around the clock.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean let's do it.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all right.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: All right, I love it, I love it.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: Let's do this.
30:57
SPEAKER_00: Type sevens.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: So um, you'd make a great coach because of your optimism and your creativity.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: And uh your coaching sessions are gonna be fun, engaging, and super motivating.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: And your clients, you're gonna give your clients exciting new insights and creative solutions, and like Jesus, you offer your clients hope for the future by envisioning you know the many possibilities life has to offer them.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: And I just I love giving this saying this to my seven friends.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, you you just embody the mood of the gospel.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: So I like that.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: That's good.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, the bank take it to the bank and cash it in.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the gospel means good news, right?
31:38
SPEAKER_00: So your coaching feels like good news, your presence feels like good news to your clients, and you really inspire them to overcome their barriers and discover more of the abundant life that Jesus has to offer.
31:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's good.
31:51
SPEAKER_00: All right, so type eights, you'd make a great coach because of your determination and your big heart.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, your instinct and intuition sees possibilities that are that are often overlooked by your clients, and um, you're not afraid to say what needs to be said to help your clients get unstuck and and move forward.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: Um, eights have this way of like gentle interventions, like where they can honestly what it is is they can speak the truth in love and have this ability to be gentle and direct at the same time.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: It's really beautiful.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: So, like Jesus, I feel like you do that, and you're a champion of your clients' dreams and desires, and you really plow a path to help them overcome the their obstacles and live into who God made them to be.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: And and just your courage and your self-assurance really energizes your clients, leading leading them, you know, often to a kind of transformation that they they never even dreamed possible.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: So that's type of that's good.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: I like that plow a path because we tend to, you know, they can bulldoze over people or snow plow over people, but when they're healthy and when they're coaching, it's it's paving the way and making, yeah, parting the C's or whatever.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: I love that.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: I think that's so true.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: We love you.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, yes, we do.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we do.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, so top nines, uh, my wife's a nine, uh, Beth Beth.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: And my husband's a nine.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: Everyone knows that by now.
33:13
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: That's great.
33:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, nines, you guys will make a great coach because of your patience and your your reassuring nature.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: So you bring a sense of calm and peace to any situation and really allow your clients to to share freely without the fear of judgment.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: And that's huge.
33:29
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they that is you know, uh just to have a place where they can they can be truthful and honest without without any fear of judgment is that's transform that's transformational.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: So like Christ, you're steadfast.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: You you always bring kindness and gentleness and grace and compassion to your clients.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: And and then one of my favorite things about nines as coaches is that during all the ups and downs of your that your client is facing, you don't really get enmeshed with that.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: You just remain this this differentiated source of quiet strength and and patience and comfort and support for your clients.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: It's really beautiful to watch.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: And I think their supernatural ability to have perspective where they can see objectively different sides.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Because I know oftentimes, right, even though we're coaching one client, we're coaching for their relationships.
34:18
SPEAKER_02: And that's right.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: I just think nines have this ability to bring in another perspective in a way that's um, you know, not bashing over the head or even defending, but you know, have you considered type of approach that I I really appreciate about the nines?
34:33
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and to that point, they make great marriage uh coaches and counselors because of their just phenomenal mediators who are able to see both sides and and really be objective.
34:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: Hands down, agree.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: So type ones, here we go.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, you you know, you you would make a great coach because of your integrity and your consistency.
34:56
SPEAKER_00: And your clients trust you to be organized, honest, and and purposeful with their time because you you have high standards and you lead with integrity.
35:05
SPEAKER_00: And type ones are so organized and intentional, they can really provide a clear path of transformation.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: Like they just can kind of see like the steps of here's where you need to go.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: And and and they have this ability to guide their clients toward the growth that they want to see.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: And uh, like Christ, ones have this clear inner knowing, like this gut intuition of right and wrong.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: And that allows you to be fair-minded and reasonable and grounded with your clients.
35:32
SPEAKER_00: And all of that gives your clients this secure foundation to stand on when they're when they're in the coaching space with a type one coach.
35:39
SPEAKER_02: So that's so good.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: And I think that, you know, ones get maybe chastised about the need to fix it.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: And this is where I think their ability to see what needs to be fixed, they can come in as this troubleshooter in that way and see, like, okay, this is where we're off that we need to pay some attention to, go back to the foundation and um, yeah, and and find some better balance, which you know, and we we changed the name.
36:07
SPEAKER_00: We we we we started using our own names for the engram types, and so now we call type one the principal reformer.
36:13
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and I feel like that's who that's who they are in Christ and that's who they were made to be.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: And so that's what you're talking about.
36:19
SPEAKER_00: I think you're talking about seeing what needs to be fixed and and functioning not like this anxious fixer, but this this reform, this reformer, right?
36:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is what which is what your clients want.
36:31
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, that's why they're there.
36:33
SPEAKER_00: That's why they're there.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: Help me out, help me fix this.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: Lord help me.
36:38
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: That's so good.
36:40
SPEAKER_00: That is um, so type twos, uh, type twos, you would make a great coach because of your thoughtfulness and your care.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you you're just a natural motivator and encourager, which spurs your clients toward growth and transformation.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: And let's be honest, your clients are gonna feel insanely loved and cared for by you.
36:59
SPEAKER_00: It's true.
37:00
SPEAKER_00: Uh they just are, you know, and they're gonna feel like you really go to bat for them and fight for them.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: And and um, you're gonna be sensitive to your clients' feelings and to what they need, which is a two superpower, right?
37:12
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna yeah, you're gonna know what they need, you're gonna be in tune with with their needs.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: And like Jesus, you you're generous and you go the extra mile to support and help and care for them.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: And uh your clients are gonna feel safe opening up to you because you're warm, you're loving, and you have this empathetic presence.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: So I think that's really what makes type twos a great coach.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
37:35
SPEAKER_02: And I know they're in it purely to help.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: That's the true altruistic motive of like, I just want to help everybody.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: So that's right.
37:44
SPEAKER_02: This is a great way to help people.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: That is it is a phenomenal way to use your your your gift to help.
37:51
SPEAKER_00: Um, type threes, you'd make a great coach because of your confidence and encouragement.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you you inspire and give courage to your clients, and you have this entrepreneurial spirit which will help you really set up a thriving coaching business that has tons of potential to transform the whole world.
38:09
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's what you guys are just gonna kill it with everything you do.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:12
SPEAKER_00: Oh, impact.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: You're just gonna, yeah.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: And and you adapt quickly to any given situation or scenario.
38:19
SPEAKER_00: And so you're gonna have this confidence in the coaching arena with your clients that's gonna give them so much courage and hope to face whatever season they're in or whatever they're going through.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, and you're gonna inspire excellence in them and help them get unstuck, you know.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: And you're really good.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: Type three coaches are really good at setting goals and solving problems for your clients.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: And like Jesus, you're just always working for them and and cheering them on.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: I think that's what makes type three such a such a great coach.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: That whole idea of the successful path when a three takes their supernatural ability to go after success and they help others find that.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's that's you're living your best life right there.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: Game changer.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like their superpower, you know?
39:06
SPEAKER_00: It is.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: Um so good.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: So what do we have?
39:10
SPEAKER_00: Two more.
39:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, four and five.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: Four and five, here we go.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: Top four.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: So type fours, you would make a great coach because of your authenticity and depth and your your gift and ability to empathize.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, hands down by far, but best empathizers ever.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: You you help your clients become self-aware and and authentically be themselves and help them communicate about their inner world.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: Like you create a safe place for your clients to take off the mask and be real.
39:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's good.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: And and and be vulnerable.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: And like Jesus, you're comfortable feeling difficult emotions.
39:47
SPEAKER_00: You read the gospels, and Jesus was highly emotional being, you know.
39:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, God is a highly emotional being, and we're highly emotional beings because we're created in his image.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like emotions, even in North American discipleship models, it's like one of the things that we diminish.
40:03
SPEAKER_00: We're like we we want to think that emotion somehow emotions are at are the enemy of faith or something.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: We just have this weird relationship with feelings.
40:11
SPEAKER_00: And four coaches put us back in touch with our heart, yeah, and back in touch with the voice of our heart, which is our feelings.
40:18
SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm sad, I'm hurt, I'm lonely, I'm scared, I'm angry, I'm uh, or even even I'm glad, you know, like which can be a vulnerable emotion just to rest on the fact that I'm okay, I'm glad.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:32
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like, you know, fours can can can help your clients get into those emotional spaces often for the first time that they've ever done that.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: And I'll say this too about type four coaches, uh, just to close on on this thought with them, is like because of your dedication to aesthetics, you're also just going to create a pleasing and comfortable environment for your clients to just relax and open up.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: It's just a beautiful thing that that you do.
40:59
SPEAKER_02: I would I would love to just like I think the fours in my life who have that innate coaching ability and who have or maybe you know been trained or whatever as well, but they're me as a seven who that that I don't I I want to run away from sadness, they all they have to do is say something that maybe is echoing back my own words, and they unlock that emotion for me in such a powerful way, and that is a God-given gift that I've not seen anyone else carry like those who are wired in the way of a four.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: It's pretty cool.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is it is their and they're gonna love to hear me say this, but it is their unique gift, it really is.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: It is, it is use it, yes, yes.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, all right, last but not least, yeah.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: To close on the top fives, uh, fives, you would make a great coach because of your wisdom and your curiosity.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, any any coach or anybody in a caring profession is going to tell you that being curious is like the number one skill that you need.
42:08
SPEAKER_00: Like absolutely if you can be being curious, is is so crucial to being a coach, and it's one of the superpowers of a five.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: And uh you're insightful, you're educated, uh, you you don't allow your emotions to overtake you, which creates a calm, secure coaching environment.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: Like you're you're gonna have this healthy, stable, differentiated presence when you're with your clients.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's gonna be calm and reassuring to them.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: And you have this ability to observe what other people don't notice and then offer tremendous insight and understanding, really reflecting back to your clients the wisdom of God.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:46
SPEAKER_00: And um, you have the ability to deconstruct obstacles that are standing in the way of your clients and helping them, you know, see things from a from a new perspective.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: And you just have this great vision that that helps your clients get unstuck and help them move forward into what it is that God's put in their heart and who he's calling them to be.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: And so that's why top fives, I think, make a great coach.
43:09
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: We had Dr.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Joy on who leads us a five.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: And I I would say, as, you know, just again as a seven, and my desire to be, you know, to grow is to look more like a five and to take on some of those attributes.
43:22
SPEAKER_02: But um, they're also the people that we can go to if we have questions, like, okay, so where do I find this?
43:28
SPEAKER_02: How do, you know, like where where can I research to find out some more information about this topic of the Enneagram?
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SPEAKER_02: Um, you all will be our, you know, go-to resource guide of like, okay, tell me a little bit more about defense mechanisms or I'm out of track or inform me here.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Tell us, tell us.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, Adam, this is so good.
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SPEAKER_02: I know that um a lot of our friends here, they're gonna walk away not only so excited about all of the information that they can put into action to their lives, but also.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe having some idea of like, okay, maybe coaching could be for me, or it could be an an aspect, another tool that I put my tool out to help me in my practice and my leadership.
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SPEAKER_02: Um even in my in your home life, your church community.
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SPEAKER_02: So is there anything else that you didn't get to say uh that you would like to be sure to to say just as we finish up?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, um, yeah, I would just say this to every every type, you know, it's easy for us to focus on the vulnerabilities or the brokenness or the defense mechanisms, but I just want to I want to reiterate, and this is at the heart of everything that we teach at YEC, is that every type uniquely bears the image of God.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And the gifts that God has given them.
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SPEAKER_00: And um, and so uh, you know, if you're if you if you're in in any way, shape, or form interested in in manifesting that image of God and using those gifts in the coaching space, man, reach out to us.
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SPEAKER_00: Because as you as you very well know, like uh the world needs help.
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SPEAKER_00: And the world needs clarity and support and and a gospel-centered perspective, using the Ennegram as a tool for the gospel from is is can really bring the clarity and support that the world needs.
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SPEAKER_00: And we're living in a mental health crisis right now, and I realize I'm dating this video by saying that, but like whatever that's not, but that's not gonna change.
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SPEAKER_00: Like the panel pandemic didn't cause a mental health crisis as much as it exposed, exposed an exaggerated one.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, totally, totally.
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SPEAKER_00: So, like the the fact that that human beings live on this side of heaven um means that we uh we have hope and we have beauty and we have goodness and we have uh we have the spirit of God and we have gifts, but we also have struggles and we get stuck and we don't see clearly.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, Jesus is always after our awareness, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Like you can't see the log in your eye.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, there's a certain there we're blind, we have blind spots, and and you can't, you know, you can't change what you're not aware of.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You you you can't change what you can't see, and you can't heal what you can't see, and what you can't, you can't own what you can't see.
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SPEAKER_00: So I just feel like the world really, really needs uh any gram coaches right now.
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SPEAKER_00: And so um uh, you know, if you're if you're at all interested in that, like man, maybe maybe God's calling you to do that.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: And then to you, Amy, I just want to say thank you for doing what you do.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and I I just I think you're making a significant impact for the kingdom of God.
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SPEAKER_00: And um I I am I am thrilled to spend any amount of time with you and honestly want want to do want to spend more time with you and and and uh and and just um want to commit to cheering cheering you on and supporting you any way I can and continue to do what you do because I I really do believe in it.
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SPEAKER_00: So keep doing what you do.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you, sir.
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SPEAKER_02: I sure hope that we can do this in person in 2022.
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SPEAKER_02: We'll see.
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SPEAKER_02: I've got some big dreams.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'd be fun.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm I may be coming up to Kansas City uh later this year.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: So my my family and I, so maybe maybe we'll get a chance to grab some barbecue.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, let's do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's go grab some barbecue.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
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SPEAKER_02: That's great.
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SPEAKER_02: Thanks again, Adam.
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SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you, Amy.
47:20
SPEAKER_02: I so value Adam's pastoral tone and his care for the team of coaches trained by your Enneagram coach.
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SPEAKER_02: I've certainly appreciated his leadership and guidance of this amazing team.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a gift to be a part of it.
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SPEAKER_02: So until next time, friend, continue to pursue God's perspective, purpose, and plans for a simple wholehearted life.