Latest / Blerd’s Eyeview / Exploring the Depths of Black Indie Comics: A Conversation with Brian J. Lambert
Transcript
- 0:01Yo.
- 0:06I'm back, I'm back.
- 0:09Yeah, look crazy 8 the great nerd core rap got into a dual fade and I just pulled a trap car Third rate rappers with a fourth rate catalog Destined for the shadow realm Y' all should never act I
- 0:23was so insidious that I need an apprentice master with the force Peep the context of my sentence like the sickness just don't ask me what my parents they know that I'm the meanest who you kidding?
- 0:34I'm in the tattoo job hot headed brown just str you can never tw my metal like the jury never mad when I push it to the max I got Chris riding with me about to turn this to fury
- 0:46road since animated I'm the one that congratulated winners will provide protective cover like it's laminated Damn, I made this.
- 0:5316 like a guillotine is fascinating if you think that you're ahead, you get decapitated all that aside, I ain't nearly here to rap words I'm here to tell you who representing for the blood to remind you neither one
- 1:06of these are bad words Biggest living mirrors they just choose to see a bad word who be the leaders of discussion when a topic trans dissections got the culture under microscopic lane who got the type that you can
- 1:17miss it from the start and make me feel like an expert on the subject by the time check this stat Louis viewership is mad nice all these other shows don't seem to cut it that's a bad taste off
- 1:28the books with a scripted joke you can't write no vampires but these interviews don't end right yeah, this the best part rhymes on Mandalorian independence made a best scar starting a war with these stars you won't get far
- 1:42this is the way you play a game of life A death star so far removed from the drama we don't notice but won't hesitate to shed a light like a patrona when mix of manage troubles at a disadvantage
- 1:53must be something in the water dig your toe because you know it's warm where can you find another show with such a fine cast?
- 2:00And if you try to box them in they playing Minecraft and basically to sum it up like you define now this was the best and it figured is like a line grab a merry man like the words I
- 2:11do I.
- 2:11Know.
- 2:14They know you can't relate because they're nerds like you'll see the world from a bird's eye view.
- 2:22You are now tuned in to blur view and without further ado we out yeah.
- 2:57Hey, everybody, it is your man on war, Captain of the ship, Chris Fury, back again with another episode of Blurz Eye View.
- 3:02Yes, it is Thursday.
- 3:03It is the end of the week, and yes, I have a head cold, but I'm powering through it.
- 3:08I'm fine.
- 3:08I'm okay.
- 3:09I'm not resting, but I get to rest tomorrow.
- 3:11So thank you very much.
- 3:13If this is your first time here, thank you for tuning in.
- 3:15We are live Tuesdays and Thursdays most of the time.
- 3:18You can also catch past episodes on Always Press Record TV through Roku or Amazon Fire devices.
- 3:25And be sure to check us out on the YouTube channel.
- 3:28Hit those like subscribe and notification bells, all that great stuff, so we can keep the ship afloat and floating and.
- 3:34And give me bringing you great content and all that great stuff.
- 3:38This is a safe space for a lot of us, a lot of us here.
- 3:42So let's keep that in mind.
- 3:43Let's be respectful of each other's spaces because we don't play that here.
- 3:49So without further ado, my man Navy Martel's in the building.
- 3:53What's going on, Navy?
- 3:54What's going on, brother?
- 3:55I.
- 3:55I hope you're feeling a little bit better.
- 3:58Ginger tea.
- 4:00Good man.
- 4:01Good man.
- 4:03Now, I don't have the ginger tea, but I do have the wild bills.
- 4:06So you know what?
- 4:09Found this at Dollar tree for a dollar 25.
- 4:12All right.
- 4:12Speaking of wild bills, for those who go to conventions, okay.
- 4:19There is a certain vendor by the name of Wild Bills who sells root beer and these really cool mugs.
- 4:26Now, this past weekend, we were out of town for a family function.
- 4:31We had a.
- 4:31My wife had a death in the family and we were staying at a hotel.
- 4:37What I did not know was the hotel was right around the corner from the convention center, and at that convention center was an anime convention going on.
- 4:48So I was like, well, this is new.
- 4:50I, like, had no time to go to this thing at all.
- 4:53So I looked it up and I said, oh, okay.
- 4:58Is the name of this con.
- 4:59I think it's his fourth year in West Virginia.
- 5:01What's it called?
- 5:03Sabusa Khan, I want to say.
- 5:07Is it T S, A B, A, S, A?
- 5:09Yes, A T, Yes.
- 5:11Yeah.
- 5:13Depending on how you.
- 5:16Yep.
- 5:17And so I looked up to see what vendors were there.
- 5:21I didn't recognize a lot of them, but I did recognize wild bills and I did recognize D8 sabers.
- 5:26I'm like, if I had time, I would have went in there to get some accessories for my lightsaber from DX Sabers, because that's where I got my saber from.
- 5:34So.
- 5:35But I was.
- 5:36That was a pleasant surprise.
- 5:37I said, man, if I had, like, extra time, I would have just jumped in, like on one day, did my walk around and jumped out.
- 5:45It's something about Wild Bills.
- 5:47It's a staple at Cons now, and I can confirm this.
- 5:51We will have Wild Bills at blurcon.
- 5:55Yeah.
- 5:57I can.
- 5:58I can say that much.
- 6:00Everyone to get my mug.
- 6:04I don't know if.
- 6:05If y' all are out there, you understand the excitement that this man and I are exhibiting.
- 6:09Wild Bills is one of those staples, because when you go to the vendor, especially the.
- 6:15The food vendors, and you get a simple soda that runs you four or five dollars a pop every time if you're lucky.
- 6:23Wild Bills has a system where if you've already bought a cup from them, you pay an extra five, maybe $10 and you can refill the entire weekend.
- 6:33The entire weekend.
- 6:35They put a little lanyard on your cup.
- 6:36You go, here you go.
- 6:37Okay.
- 6:37And you ice.
- 6:39Fill it up.
- 6:39Keep it moving.
- 6:41I love it.
- 6:42No one else does that.
- 6:45Mal's in the building.
- 6:45What's going on now?
- 6:46What up, sir?
- 6:48Just sweetie glare.
- 6:50We can't do it like lady man.
- 6:57Thank you, Ma, for the donation.
- 6:59Thank you.
- 7:00Yes, I'm pushing through.
- 7:01Thank you.
- 7:02Bama's in the building.
- 7:05Yeah, do sweetie.
- 7:06Dwight.
- 7:06Yes, it's actually ginger turmeric.
- 7:08So, yes.
- 7:09Okay.
- 7:10We do listen to our audience.
- 7:12You know, actually has turmeric in it.
- 7:14So I.
- 7:14I said, ah.
- 7:16Hey, cold call me early this year.
- 7:17So.
- 7:19I'm so glad.
- 7:20I never had one of those before, but I have heard some disastrous things.
- 7:25When you are a practicing voice actor, it's hello.
- 7:34Well, you're an up and coming voice actor.
- 7:35I can imagine.
- 7:36See, but I'm stupid like that.
- 7:38I'll take any adversity to my voice, and I will still somehow make it an advantage because now I want to see what I can do with it now that my voice has gotten weird.
- 7:47Here.
- 7:48Here's the thing.
- 7:48People say, oh, take some Nyquil.
- 7:50Here's the thing about me and Nyquil.
- 7:52We don't have a very good relationship.
- 7:55Apparently, I have an allergic reaction.
- 7:59Oh, no.
- 8:00Nyquil.
- 8:01But here's the allergic reaction I have.
- 8:05Everybody's used to the deep, sultry voice.
- 8:09Nyquil makes me sound like Mickey Mouse.
- 8:22Trial and error.
- 8:23Trust me, I know.
- 8:24Oh, my gosh.
- 8:25I can imagine you doing an intro for the show, and it's like, hello, everybody.
- 8:30Welcome to Lord's Eye View.
- 8:32I had, like, it.
- 8:34I.
- 8:35This happened a couple years ago, and I noticed it, and I took it, and I'm like, yeah, is my voice going?
- 8:43And then when I'm pushing through it, why do I sound like this?
- 8:47You know, like, what?
- 8:52I shouldn't have been drinking anything when you did that.
- 8:56Yeah, look, the look my wife has, and I'm like, I don't know what's going on.
- 9:03It's like.
- 9:04It's.
- 9:04It's like that episode is like the movie Roger Rabbit.
- 9:08And I would turn around, and I turn around and have a voice just like us.
- 9:12And I'm like, now this.
- 9:13It's not a pretty sight.
- 9:16It's at all.
- 9:17Now, I will add to that, because when I get sick, my voice drops three octaves.
- 9:24Oh, you turn into Barry White.
- 9:26Yeah, I turn into Barry White.
- 9:27Someone says, hey, Monta.
- 9:28Hey, what's going on?
- 9:29Who the hell is this?
- 9:32I won't be coming to work today.
- 9:34Not talking like that.
- 9:37Sorry.
- 9:37It doesn't.
- 9:38It.
- 9:38It does help that while at work today, because it's been.
- 9:42It was CSP week, and they're celebrating all the texts in the air, in the hospital.
- 9:47They.
- 9:47They've been feeding this crap out of everybody.
- 9:51They brought in these great brownies.
- 9:54I've seen some of the girls getting brownies.
- 9:55So I.
- 9:56You know, I go in straight.
- 9:57I got a mask on.
- 9:58I go straight.
- 9:59Go ahead and get you one of them brownies.
- 10:03Rich, decadent, luscious chocolate.
- 10:09Everybody was like, what's the narrator in here?
- 10:15It worked.
- 10:16It.
- 10:16It does.
- 10:16It does tend to work.
- 10:18I.
- 10:18I feel that.
- 10:21My dude said, hey, he does do a little bit of outside, so there it is.
- 10:24I love chocolate, but chocolate is like my favorite op because milk chocolate puts me to sleep.
- 10:34It makes me drowsy and knocks me.
- 10:35Out, literally, like a baby.
- 10:37Like a baby, Yo.
- 10:39Dark chocolate doesn't do it.
- 10:40I don't touch white chocolate.
- 10:41That's just pure sugar right there.
- 10:43But milk chocolate, forget it.
- 10:45That's the.
- 10:46That's the.
- 10:46That's the tits right there.
- 10:47Dark chocolate, that's my jam.
- 10:50What?
- 10:5070%.
- 10:51Let's go.
- 10:52That is my jam with the salt.
- 10:54And caramel on the inside.
- 10:57So peep.
- 10:58We have a guest in the building.
- 11:04This brother is working on a little bit of everything.
- 11:09Let's go.
- 11:11But if you.
- 11:12If you remember Malachi Bailey, he has her.
- 11:15And that's over at Wings Comics.
- 11:17If you recognize justice, that's it.
- 11:20Wingless Comics.
- 11:21If you recognize immortals, that's at Wingless Comics.
- 11:25And up and coming Air Force Ones which is also turning into an animation.
- 11:31So dope for Blurry Station, also from Wingless Comics.
- 11:37This man is literally hands on in the indie comics industry.
- 11:46Brian J.
- 11:46Lambert is in the building.
- 11:47What's going on, Brian?
- 11:48Hey, sir.
- 11:56I'd give a standing ovation, but I.
- 11:59I think this is good because otherwise you just see nothing but shirts.
- 12:01So.
- 12:02Hey.
- 12:13That part, that part.
- 12:15Okay, okay, okay.
- 12:16I got the Wild Bills.
- 12:18Okay, this is the antidote right here.
- 12:19This is a wild.
- 12:20I got the antidote and the cheeses.
- 12:22I got cheeses here.
- 12:23Okay.
- 12:26Yes, sir.
- 12:28How are you doing this evening, man?
- 12:43Oh, you're muted.
- 12:44Take off your mute some reason.
- 12:45Yeah, it says you're muted.
- 12:46There we go.
- 12:47Have I been talking this whole time?
- 12:49I said a bunch of cool stuff too.
- 12:50You had to repeat it now.
- 12:51Yeah, yeah, just repeat it.
- 12:53Yeah, I made a joke about you and chocolate and falling asleep.
- 12:57I said, the world notwithstanding that, we're good.
- 13:00You know what I mean?
- 13:00Again, no, thank you guys for having me.
- 13:02I'm just really happy to be here.
- 13:04I appreciate you guys.
- 13:06It's just been really, really awesome just even getting this opportunity to talk to you guys and to be on, you know, Blurred's Ivy podcast and just politic with everybody.
- 13:15So I appreciate it.
- 13:16Just out the gate.
- 13:17I appreciate it.
- 13:18Look, it's great having you on because first off, as you know, we're over at Blair Station as well and seeing Air Force Ones when we seen that trailer.
- 13:31And the way.
- 13:31The way Hell Spawn just.
- 13:33He said, there's no other way to say but black people in Gundams and Selling point.
- 13:39That's.
- 13:39That's the selling point.
- 13:42Yeah.
- 13:42You know, man, I've been working on it for a while, honestly, and it's a.
- 13:48For us older anime lovers and anime heads, right?
- 13:51Like, it's a love letter to Robotech into the original Gundam and all of that stuff because.
- 13:56Yeah, right.
- 13:57So we didn't even.
- 13:58Back then, like, yeah, you had Bowie Grant and you had like the Grant family, right?
- 14:02But those are the only black people you saw really, in any of that stuff.
- 14:06And they weren't main characters.
- 14:08Claudia didn't get to fly nothing.
- 14:09I love Claudia, but you know what I mean?
- 14:11Like, we were always like, also Ransack, right?
- 14:14And so I always wanted to do that.
- 14:17And honestly, man, the idea came to me in the middle of the night one night.
- 14:20Most of the time, if you like me, you get an idea in the middle of the night, you don't write it down, you don't tell nobody, and you forget it in the morning, this one stuck with me, right?
- 14:28All I had was the title.
- 14:30I was like.
- 14:30I had hit up a friend of mine when I woke up, and I was like, air Force Ones.
- 14:34I was like, but they're pilots.
- 14:36And they looked at me like I was a fool.
- 14:38And I was like, trust me.
- 14:39Like, just trust me.
- 14:42Trust the process.
- 14:43Right, right, right.
- 14:44And yeah.
- 14:45Yeah.
- 14:45So it just.
- 14:46It came together like that again.
- 14:47I started with.
- 14:49Started taking.
- 14:50When I had the real idea, I started taking Gundam pictures, right?
- 14:53Like Gundam posters.
- 14:54And I was trying to put my lettering and stuff on there, like, to really, like, matriculate the vision.
- 14:59Like, hey, it's gonna be this big.
- 15:01But this is where we're starting and getting the logo and just getting the look, right?
- 15:04And then just creating that intersection in that cross section of like, shoe culture, popular culture, Gundam culture.
- 15:11Like all these things that I feel like in our community have been married for a long time, and just bringing that into, like, a bigger form.
- 15:19That was really, really what I wanted to do.
- 15:20And like I said, it's a love story and it's a love letter to.
- 15:23To.
- 15:23To the things I grew up on.
- 15:24I should.
- 15:25I wanna.
- 15:25I wanted to be a Gundam pilot.
- 15:26You know what I mean?
- 15:27And so I want to be able to show that, you know?
- 15:30Yeah.
- 15:30Still do.
- 15:32Right, right, right.
- 15:33I'm real disappointed in the Space Force, bro.
- 15:35I thought I was like, oh, we gonna get some Gundams.
- 15:37And then, you know, look what we got.
- 15:39Yeah.
- 15:42Look at what we got.
- 15:43Okay.
- 15:44I get hurt.
- 15:45Oh, my Lord.
- 15:46I.
- 15:47So I.
- 15:47I gotta ask you, when you said it was a love letter to.
- 15:51Especially all the mech anime that we came up with, you know, like Gundam across.
- 15:57Was it Venus Wars?
- 15:59Oh, my goodness, the list goes on and on and on.
- 16:01So was there a particular property that just said, this is the.
- 16:07This is the main song in that love.
- 16:10In that love letter to what I'm creating.
- 16:14For me, it would honestly have to be Robotech.
- 16:17And that's because that was the very first one I ever saw, right?
- 16:21So I can remember being.
- 16:23I think I was like three years old when it was actually airing on TV, you know, before we had to get it on DVDs and everything else.
- 16:30And so I remember very vividly watching the episode or the after effects of the episode where Roy Foker dies, right?
- 16:38And I had never before.
- 16:40And since really, I had never seen that on, like, American TV like that.
- 16:43You don't see cartoons.
- 16:45Didn't have debts.
- 16:49Anyway.
- 16:49You know what I mean?
- 16:50Yeah, exactly.
- 16:51So.
- 16:52So that one was a thing.
- 16:54And I always had this dream, I guess, of if I could do anything I wanted, tomorrow I would do a four part movie series of the Robotech, you know, the Macross saga.
- 17:06And it would be this big Baz Luhrmann type production with those angles and that kind of artistry and musicality and all of that stuff.
- 17:14Right.
- 17:14Because it's a space opera.
- 17:16And so I wanted to do something that was reminiscent of that but very, very much grounded in who I am and my ideas and thoughts and again, my cultural ideas and thoughts.
- 17:26As the series progresses, you're gonna see how very much of a.
- 17:30Of a LA story this is as a California story this is as the story progresses.
- 17:36We're in the 7th Ward now.
- 17:37That's like the big main place we are.
- 17:40They're gonna go to other wards and third Ward folks.
- 17:44Hey, we don't mess with seven Ward, you know, blah, blah, blah, you know, so it's, it's very, very tribal, very, for lack of better words, gang culture oriented, but not in the pejorative way.
- 17:54Right.
- 17:55There is a lot of social black culture that's interconnected with what's contemporarily called gang culture or California, you know what I mean?
- 18:03Like all those little nuances.
- 18:05Whereas we understand that a certain way.
- 18:08We know where to go, who to talk to, how to phrase things and everything and not be affiliated at all.
- 18:13But we can still move in those circles and move around those circles and they move around us.
- 18:17Other people have not been exposed to that and they have no idea it's gang culture.
- 18:21Bad.
- 18:21Red red rag bad.
- 18:22No matter what's going on.
- 18:24And that's not necessarily the case.
- 18:25Right.
- 18:26There are all these nuances about our culture in general that I like infusing into the stories that I'm writing.
- 18:31And I think that a Gundam style mech, anime and manga is the perfect way to show that tribalism and to show that fight for freedom.
- 18:41So I noticed that in your background and on your shirt.
- 18:44Yes, yes, yes, sir.
- 18:46Are several of the mechs that are in.
- 18:50Going to be in Air Force Ones.
- 18:53Yes, yes.
- 18:53So in, in volume one, all the mix that you see here are actually.
- 18:57These are our four.
- 18:59I think you can see all four of them.
- 19:00These are our four main mechs here.
- 19:02The Gilgamesh, the Yasuke, the Old Gun and the Kitsune.
- 19:06I have the Kitsune on my shirt here.
- 19:08Real men wear pink, as my boy Cameron used to say.
- 19:12I want that shirt too.
- 19:14Oh, oh man.
- 19:15We, you know, it's gonna be on the website Real, real soon, right?
- 19:17We just.
- 19:18My wife is the genius behind this one.
- 19:20I had this poster a friend did for me, and I just had it.
- 19:23I was gonna sell it as a print and she was like, if you don't get me a shirt so I can wear that.
- 19:29And I was like, if you don't o.
- 19:32But I listened to her.
- 19:34I defer to her.
- 19:35You had no choice, man.
- 19:36You had no choice, right?
- 19:38And it came out dope.
- 19:39You know what I mean?
- 19:40So actually this was supposed to be her shirt.
- 19:42Actually, this is the one I ordered for her.
- 19:43And then it came out, the package, and I was like, oh, oops, I bought it too big for you, baby.
- 19:50I gotta wear it.
- 19:51You know what I'm saying?
- 19:52So.
- 19:53Oh.
- 19:53Oh, no, you can't wear this.
- 19:55This is not flattery.
- 19:57That side eye was probably legendary.
- 20:00Just.
- 20:00Just look at you.
- 20:01Like, right, right, right.
- 20:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 20:05So, yeah, I think it's.
- 20:07There's a part.
- 20:08Part of it always be branding, you know, is.
- 20:10That's what they say.
- 20:11But at the same time, man, I honestly enjoy this so damn much that I want to wear it.
- 20:16Right?
- 20:16Like, I want to wear these shirts out.
- 20:17I love the characters.
- 20:18I love what I'm doing.
- 20:19And not just because I'm doing it, because I get to see it, man.
- 20:22And.
- 20:23And having other people like it and other people get down.
- 20:25It's just.
- 20:25It's.
- 20:26It's everything to me, right.
- 20:27Like, it's.
- 20:28I love all the things that Wingless Comics does.
- 20:30I love all the things that I've created.
- 20:32I love all the things I've created with other people editing and all this other stuff.
- 20:36Air Force Ones and the ones universe is.
- 20:38Is.
- 20:38Is a different beast for me.
- 20:41I want to.
- 20:41Before we go on, I want to show the new trailer that you have because obviously the first one had literally the Air Force Ones by Nelly and the same lunatics.
- 20:50Yeah.
- 20:50And we.
- 20:51We couldn't use that copyright.
- 20:52Right.
- 20:53But.
- 20:53Right, right.
- 20:57So here's the.
- 20:58Here's the.
- 20:58The newest version with its own music.
- 21:01And here we go.
- 21:02They were never meant to fly now they'll tear down the sky Rising from the ashes of a failed peace I.
- 21:28Look into a broken mirror and still.
- 21:30See me Is this a nightmare or a broken dream?
- 21:33I step inside and take control of my destiny A vessel made for righteous wrath Reigniting fires of a war torn.
- 21:41Past I'd sacrifice all that I have if faith could save me from this B.
- 21:49They were never meant to fly out now they'll tear down the sky Air Force wants Fire.
- 22:13Okay, I want the song.
- 22:14Okay?
- 22:15I want that song.
- 22:16I want it, I want it on repeat because it makes me just want to just go out and just do some stuff.
- 22:22See, that's what I'm talking about, sir.
- 22:24This is giving, it gives.
- 22:25It gives your typical anime feel, man.
- 22:29I ain't gonna lie.
- 22:30So again, I love my wife and she loves me, obviously, because she haven't killed me yet.
- 22:34Because like you said, I've been playing that thing non stop.
- 22:36My ADHD and ADHD, I can listen to that thing 12 times in a row and not be phased at all.
- 22:42I'm just into it.
- 22:43So if y' all know about the air, if y' all know about the ADHD out there, you know, you truly understand when you are transfixed on something, you listen to the same thing or watch the same thing for
- 22:55hours.
- 22:56Right?
- 22:57Right?
- 22:57Yeah, man.
- 22:57So it's again, man, it's just been, it's been very, very dope.
- 23:03I love the song.
- 23:03The song is actually, it's actually not just for that opening either.
- 23:06It's a full.
- 23:07It's the full length song.
- 23:08There's a full length version that I will be releasing in parts because again, I want to put some more trailer materials together, some other stuff together, and as we go start producing volume two, that's going to be a
- 23:19thing.
- 23:21I am going to end up releasing the entire song.
- 23:22You know what I mean?
- 23:23I.
- 23:23I feel like we're going to take it to streaming platforms and the whole deal, like do a full release for it is why I love it that much.
- 23:29And so it don't matter if it's gonna have a million of streams, if for no other reason than I've streamed it a million times.
- 23:35So, you know, again, man, I, I think that there are a lot of properties and a lot of things that we see in our again in our community and in the wider comic community in general.
- 23:46And I, I'm not setting out to prove that you don't need a million dollars to do something beneficial or do something great or do something of high quality.
- 23:53But I am doing it right.
- 23:55Like my, my goal is to complete this project.
- 23:59My goal is to do the next thing and invest and invest and show that there is kind of a path and you don't.
- 24:05Again, you don't have to.
- 24:05I don't need to fleece everybody for a bunch of money to do a small thing right.
- 24:09Like, I invest in myself.
- 24:12I make sure again, even when you see the animation, that animation is top quality animation.
- 24:16The song is top quality songs you don't skimp just because you don't have a, a, a pocket full of money.
- 24:24You just have to take the time and plan it out and do it right.
- 24:27And I realized that like life comics and all this other stuff, we get judged by the worst of us and not by the best of us.
- 24:35The best of us is the exception.
- 24:37Oh my God.
- 24:37It's how you know you're, you're amazing because you did that.
- 24:40Not everybody could do that, but the worst of us.
- 24:42Yeah, that's how all of you guys are.
- 24:43So the same thing goes for comics.
- 24:44If you see a, a bad black indie comic, then somebody goes, see, that's what indie comics are.
- 24:49That's what black indie comics are.
- 24:50No, everything you'll think out of Wingless is, is 100 the best quality that we can do at the time.
- 24:56And we're just going to keep leveling up and we started at a quality that's at least on par with the big two.
- 25:01And we're just going to get better.
- 25:02And I mean that for every project.
- 25:04That we do, I, what I've seen and like I said, Malachi Bailey's been on the show before a couple times and talking about her and when you see the level of her and then you see immortals and then
- 25:16you see justice and now you have fades that you're working on.
- 25:19Let's talk about those projects too.
- 25:21Like yeah, these are things and we, we said here, here on the platform like we love our black indie creators because they are giving us stories that we can't get anywhere else.
- 25:33They're giving us characters that aren't just weather based or electricity based powers.
- 25:39Like in most, in most cases, origin story is better storyline.
- 25:47Story arcs are much better.
- 25:48Like it just leave.
- 25:50It's not the same repetitive thing over and over and over.
- 25:54And you don't have the whole, we're gonna do a seven story arc and then we're gonna start over with a new writer and put somebody else.
- 26:02And you scrap everything from before you guys.
- 26:07And I mean black creative indie creators have given us something that goes on and on and it just gets better and better and we get more and it's like.
- 26:19And we're starving for it.
- 26:20We're like, yes, I need more of that.
- 26:22And the fact that you haven't gone like commercial in the sense of it becomes watered down is a godsend.
- 26:32You know, a really good friend of mine and I consider him a mentor as well and appear and a business partner.
- 26:38Jason Reeves, man really schooled me on some stuff when I first got into the game, right, and look, I'm over Jason's house once or twice, you know, a month or whatever.
- 26:47Like, that's my, that's my people.
- 26:48And when I first got in, I wanted to do this.
- 26:51Like you said, I want to do a six issue arc that does this and that and all this other stuff.
- 26:55Right.
- 26:55And he was like, why, why would you, why would you make people wait that long?
- 26:59You know, an indie comic does one, maybe two a year, right?
- 27:03That's just the cycle.
- 27:04And it happens until you catch fire.
- 27:06So he was like, get your story right, do it in four issues because then you get to tell the next story.
- 27:11And that is probably the biggest hurdle for indie comics, being able to tell the next story.
- 27:15Right.
- 27:15Like, you have to continue to invest and continue to invest, but it's not a bad thing.
- 27:20It's, it's actually something that helps stories matriculate as opposed to, and don't get me wrong, I grew up on Marvel and DC Image.
- 27:26I still, you know, I still have affinity for those comics.
- 27:29I don't necessarily collect the way I.
- 27:30Used to, but I can't say that my corner is taller than me now.
- 27:39So, yeah, I can't say that.
- 27:40Right, right.
- 27:41It's.
- 27:42It's hard.
- 27:42So I do like some of the new stuff they're coming out with.
- 27:44I, I won't deny that.
- 27:45Right.
- 27:45Like the, the new Wonder Woman and Batman series.
- 27:49I like some of their shorter stuff that they're starting to do, the absolute stuff and some of the shorter things that they're doing.
- 27:54Because again, you get bogged down by hundreds of years of, of continuity that folds back on itself.
- 28:00And I think that that bogs down American comics.
- 28:02Right.
- 28:02Whereas necessarily manga, even if it'll have hundreds of issues, it's not bogged down by the continuity issues.
- 28:08Right.
- 28:09And I think that that's something that helps it sell in this market a little bit differently than a superhero comic.
- 28:15Also, manga, you mentioned fades.
- 28:17Manga allows you to tell a diverse, a more diverse group of stories than is traditionally welcomed in American comics.
- 28:25Now, American comics does do all of it, but people don't associate American comics with all these different genres of things.
- 28:31Whereas they do that for, for manga.
- 28:34And so with something like fades and like you said, telling stories that we don't normally get to see.
- 28:38Fades is a project like that.
- 28:39Fades is, is an anime, sorry, not an anime.
- 28:42Fades is a manga I'm developing based around a barber shop.
- 28:46And it's going to be a slice of life barber shop manga.
- 28:52Right.
- 28:52Where, where you get to see our culturally dive.
- 28:55Again, a barbershop is sacred to us, right?
- 28:58A barbershop is holy ground.
- 28:59You can have two crews beef and you can have all this other going on, right?
- 29:03They step in a barbershop, everything knock it off, right?
- 29:07And Right, right.
- 29:08And so those kinds of things are important, right?
- 29:11And, and the, the show, the social aspects of a barber shop.
- 29:14Unless you've been into a barbershop, you don't understand it, right?
- 29:17But the moment you get in one, you understand it.
- 29:19And, and again, we don't get those kind of stories.
- 29:21We have the movie Barbershop, right?
- 29:23We have the movie Beauty Shop, but we've never had a comic or a manga do that.
- 29:28Whereas Food wars could do it and they could just be talking about food, right?
- 29:32So makes it hungry too, you know.
- 29:35Right, right, right.
- 29:36So, so I wanted to do that same kind of thing with, again, something that's culturally relevant for us.
- 29:43And for me, that's a barbershop.
- 29:44For me, that's, you know, getting in there and seeing somebody want to be the best barber, you know, because their father was.
- 29:50And however that story matures, I think all those things are, are incredibly important.
- 29:57Also, I learned from Jason Reeves controlling the means of production.
- 30:01Right?
- 30:03Money is good, and I will never say money is not good.
- 30:07We can always use more money to do more production, right?
- 30:10But all money ain't good money.
- 30:12So if I want to continue my voice and I want to keep the means of production and I want to do what I want to do, then there are certain things that I can't take.
- 30:19There are certain deals that I can't really get into.
- 30:22I've had a number of, a number of offers, quote unquote, you know, for IP licensing and on and on and on.
- 30:28And while they might look good on the surface, somebody's like, oh yeah, I'll give you 100k for justice.
- 30:34Okay, over what kind of a time period, over what are the constraints?
- 30:38What kind of creation can I do after I give you this IP licensing deal?
- 30:41Right?
- 30:41And again, 100k for a year is, is nice.
- 30:44It's okay.
- 30:45But if you're talking about 100k over 10 years, that means nothing to me.
- 30:49Right?
- 30:49Like, so it's all these little things that go into what we control and how we should be taking over and controlling the narratives of, of, of who we are socially, which we don't necessarily get to do.
- 31:02Other people get to control who they are socially.
- 31:05If, if we're talking about manga, talking about anime, if I put on a samurai helmet right?
- 31:11Now everybody knows that's Japanese, right?
- 31:15So I'm doing something that's culturally relevant to Japanese people and blah, whatever it might be.
- 31:19If someone goes out there and raps or somebody goes out and does K Pop.
- 31:23Demon Hunters, a movie which I love.
- 31:25Let me put.
- 31:25Put it out there.
- 31:26I thought it was dope.
- 31:27I love the music.
- 31:28I think it's great.
- 31:29Right?
- 31:29But the fact of the matter is K pop itself, not the movie, but K pop, the genre itself is just R B, Right?
- 31:35And R B doesn't get that.
- 31:37Props for that.
- 31:38It's not.
- 31:38When they do K Pop and they do K pop Demon Hunters, it's not like, oh, they're doing a black thing.
- 31:43And it culturally goes back to, oh, man, let's give some props to black people because they invented this, right?
- 31:48And it's culturally relevant to them and it's part of their cultural identity.
- 31:51It's not that it's.
- 31:52Well, K pop is different.
- 31:53No, it's not.
- 31:54It's not.
- 31:55It's just done by different people.
- 31:56Right.
- 31:56And so I think that that's a part that we try, that I try to infuse in my stories and I try to infuse in everything that we're doing and how we control our narratives and how we produce the
- 32:07stories that we produce.
- 32:08I think that's incredibly important.
- 32:10Yeah, I think so, too.
- 32:11Voices Sauce says indie comics are better than mainstream comics nowadays.
- 32:15What we see in the main.
- 32:17Main books are regurgitated mess.
- 32:20We have Wingless.
- 32:21Don't produce no mess.
- 32:23Hey.
- 32:24Right, so this is true.
- 32:27This is true.
- 32:27This is back to what I was saying about repetitive storylines and just kind of repeat once again.
- 32:35It's great.
- 32:36I'll use Superman as an example.
- 32:38There's a reason why I didn't get Superman comics after a certain point in my life, because what do you do with that character?
- 32:46You can't always have him fight Doomsday.
- 32:49You can't always have him fight Apocalypse.
- 32:51Like, what do you do?
- 32:52Like, you have.
- 32:53You change the power set, you change the scaling of powers, you change the village.
- 32:58You can't.
- 32:58You can't always have Lex Luthor involved.
- 33:01What do you do with over 80 years of history?
- 33:06There's.
- 33:06There's got to be a story that you haven't been able to tell yet.
- 33:09The fact that they even introduced his kid now and been able to tell stories with it has been a miracle in a way.
- 33:19That it can tell more stories has been a miracle in itself.
- 33:23So that's just an example.
- 33:25Like, how many times can you do it?
- 33:28Yeah.
- 33:28And.
- 33:28And I also think that.
- 33:30Well, in my opinion, my humble opinion, I think they've lost the plot a lot of times on Superman, right?
- 33:34Because it becomes one of two camps.
- 33:36It's either, like, we got the dark and broody Superman or Superman is all about hope.
- 33:40And, like, both things are actually true, right?
- 33:44Like, Superman, in my opinion, is a very tortured individual.
- 33:49Right?
- 33:49Oh, yeah.
- 33:50He's.
- 33:50He's got to be a man conflicted.
- 33:52He does have all this power.
- 33:53I love Bruce Timm did it with.
- 33:56At the very end of Justice League Unlimited, where he lets loose on Apocalypse on.
- 34:00On Dark side, right?
- 34:02For, like, the last time.
- 34:03And he tells.
- 34:04He tells him, like, I walk around in the world of, like, cardboard and tissue paper, and, like, I forget that I can actually let loose and.
- 34:12And go to town and go to work, right?
- 34:16It's a great speech that he gives, right?
- 34:19And so I think that were I writing a Superman story, you would see how tortured he is with that, right?
- 34:26Because he's got to be this beacon of hope.
- 34:27But that can't be.
- 34:28That can't be possible all the time, or it can't be easy all the time, right?
- 34:32He's got to be this person that.
- 34:33That's with kid gloves all the time, even with the people he loves.
- 34:36He's got to hold back even his temper, right?
- 34:38Like, and I know they showed a flash of that, like, in the.
- 34:40In the James Gunn stuff, right?
- 34:44But even then, right, like, his temper has to be so under control that he can't yell, because if he yells, he could, like, rend the flesh from your body with just his voice.
- 34:54You know what I mean?
- 34:55Like, there are those.
- 34:56There are so many things that.
- 34:57And so many nuanced levels and layers of who he could be, right?
- 35:01And.
- 35:01And how he probably should be done in order to.
- 35:05To reinvigorate his stories.
- 35:08Similarly, like, Batman.
- 35:10Batman is his greatest.
- 35:11When he's a great detective.
- 35:12I get it.
- 35:13He's kung fu dude.
- 35:14I love it.
- 35:15He does a bunch of cool.
- 35:16He's got gadgets and stuff, too.
- 35:17But, like, when he's actually the world's greatest detective, that's when you get the best stories from him.
- 35:21Yeah.
- 35:22And they.
- 35:22Again, they lose that a lot of times, right, In.
- 35:25In favor of the Flash and Dash.
- 35:29And.
- 35:29And so a way that I think that indie comics.
- 35:34Excuse me, let me say this.
- 35:36A way that good indie comics and indie comics, not amateur comics, right?
- 35:41Because those are two different things, right?
- 35:43Doing well is.
- 35:44We're able to tell those diverse stories.
- 35:46Right.
- 35:47And sometimes indie comics and amateur comics get conflated.
- 35:50And that is also an issue.
- 35:52You have a lot of amateur comic writers, which I'm.
- 35:54There's no shade to them.
- 35:56They are doing their dream and their passion and they should continue to do it.
- 35:59But there is a difference between the Saturday morning cartoon guy who watched X Men, the original run of X Men.
- 36:05It was like, I want to do comics.
- 36:07Never studied anything, never read anything, never learned story, never learned how to write the basic stuff and then does a comic.
- 36:13You can tell when that comic comes out.
- 36:15Whereas someone who's studied their craft and studied storytelling and really has a passion for it, does it.
- 36:21And those are two completely different realms of storytelling there.
- 36:26And.
- 36:26And when you mentioned.
- 36:28I'm glad you mentioned, like, the storytelling aspect, especially when you have different writers.
- 36:32When I.
- 36:33When you mention Batman being like, when he.
- 36:37You tell those detective stories.
- 36:39Those are the best stories.
- 36:40There's a reason why Chips Zdarsky's run on Daredevil is such a great run because, like, he's telling a different version.
- 36:47There's a reason why Hickman's run on Fantastic Four, X Men.
- 36:51Right.
- 36:52You know, whatever else you touch is a reason.
- 36:54He's like, I have this story.
- 36:55I want to tell it.
- 36:57It's going to be good because it's going to make you.
- 37:00Make you go somewhere where you haven't been before, haven't been in a lot in a long time.
- 37:05Make it build something out from.
- 37:08From this point on.
- 37:10So you're right.
- 37:11When you have writers in the indie field who just, oh, I like it and I'm just gonna write it, like, yes, but is it.
- 37:19Do you really want to be so one dimensional?
- 37:22Right.
- 37:23Really?
- 37:24Writer say, wow, I never expected to see it that way.
- 37:27I never expected to feel this way about seeing a film or watching a movie or watching a television show or even reading a comic or a novel for that matter.
- 37:35Yeah, see, now I'm see a different version of what I'm seeing.
- 37:40James Gunn, Guardians of the Galaxy, all three volumes.
- 37:44You watch them in the first entirety.
- 37:46You're like, great superhero films.
- 37:48You didn't think this was Rocket Story the whole time until third film.
- 37:52Now you go back and be like, oh, wow, it's.
- 37:54There was another level, you know, so it's.
- 37:58It get that people don't understand.
- 38:00A lot of people don't get to see that aspect in writing in indie comics.
- 38:04They just say, I'm going to tell a story.
- 38:06And that's.
- 38:06And that's.
- 38:07The end of it.
- 38:08And I, I think that's where a lot of people are gravitating to the more independent companies, you know, like image, boom, idw, Ignition.
- 38:18They're, they're, they're hungry for something outside the normal parameters that have been set through all these years.
- 38:25You know, you have this pantheon of heroes from the Justice League and, and you know, people don't know that much about the Justice Society.
- 38:32And you, you know, you see the Teen Titans, but you don't really hear about Young Justice.
- 38:36And you go on Marvel sides.
- 38:37You got the New warriors and the Young Avengers, but you really don't hear that much about them until something significant happens and then it becomes a big media blitz.
- 38:49And when you mentioned about indie comics writing, the crazy thing is the first step, the first title that popped up in my head was Irredeemable.
- 38:58Mark Wade writing on Irredeemable, flawlessly incredible because it showed a superhero who's so op that no one else could touch him, but he goes on a rampage because something happens to him.
- 39:10And I think when you mentioned Superman, I said, there's parallels in that story, except one holds restraint.
- 39:16The other just said, nah, I, I, I'm done.
- 39:19I'm good.
- 39:20Yeah, I'm good.
- 39:21Right?
- 39:22And then that's very rare that you get that kind of storytelling or even just even a twist as, as easy as Batman and Wonder Woman being the couple and not Superman and Wonder Woman.
- 39:33Right?
- 39:33Hello.
- 39:33That's mind blowing for people, right?
- 39:35But it makes perfect sense and it gives you some different storytelling aspects.
- 39:39But then also you get the same thing where you do something like injustice in that story, right, where Superman, because Joker has, makes him kill Lois, you know what I mean?
- 39:50And then he goes and becomes this authoritarian and all this stuff.
- 39:52But then it goes on too long because then they want to milk it for all the money they can and the story becomes stupid and convoluted as opposed to doing something like, like, well, they even did with Kingdom
- 40:01Come.
- 40:01Kingdom Come.
- 40:02Look, beginning to end.
- 40:03Alex Ross.
- 40:04Brilliant.
- 40:05Boom.
- 40:05In, out, let's go.
- 40:06Right, and that's, and that's done.
- 40:07And it's, it's over.
- 40:09And then they got to do the Kingdom, you know what I mean?
- 40:12And don't get me wrong, I read all of the Kingdom and it was stupid, but I still loved it as a kid, a, as a younger man.
- 40:16Right?
- 40:17But it was dumb.
- 40:17It didn't need to be done.
- 40:19And that's one of the problems, I think, with, with capitalism.
- 40:22Right?
- 40:23Like, that's what it Boils down to, oh, we want to try to wring some more money out of this property, as opposed to having something that's dope as hell and then sailing off into the sunset.
- 40:33Which is why Milestone took off so well, because it was off the beaten path.
- 40:37Even though DC published it, they didn't own it.
- 40:40And Milestone said, okay, we're going to create this entire ecosystem of nothing but people of color, and let's see them go through their normal problems.
- 40:51But now they have superpowers they didn't expect.
- 40:53And I said the whole thing, the setup was incredible.
- 40:56That's why I'm always a Milestone fan.
- 40:58Always, right?
- 41:00I'm a.
- 41:01I'm a depressed Milestone fan.
- 41:04I ain't gonna lie.
- 41:05That relaunch, man.
- 41:07So.
- 41:07Oh, you know, look, look, Dennis and Reggie and.
- 41:11And Joe and all of those guys.
- 41:13Again, I know Joe Illage.
- 41:14You know, I've met Dennis Cowan before.
- 41:17Again, it's not like I know him and I'm an inbox him or nothing.
- 41:19And I got nothing against those guys.
- 41:21But what I wish, like, my personal wish is that they had called the indie market, the black indie market for some of these up and coming writers, right?
- 41:31And some of these up and coming artists and really, really relaunched Marvel.
- 41:35I mean, sorry, Milestone, if.
- 41:37If you could have had somebody like Greg Anderson, Elise on.
- 41:41On Zombie, right?
- 41:43Like.
- 41:46Again, if you could have got somebody like.
- 41:48Like Jason Reeves on.
- 41:50On Hardware.
- 41:51And don't get me wrong, I know these guys want to tell their stories because they're their characters.
- 41:54So I'm not saying that they shouldn't.
- 41:56What I am saying is if they had really brought up the next generation along with them in this relaunch, I think it would have been more sustainable.
- 42:06I think that they wouldn't have had some of the publishing and production issues woes that they had.
- 42:13I think.
- 42:14I just think that there were just some man, Some other things that they could have done.
- 42:17And I know.
- 42:18I know for a fact that the black indie community would have backed them and supported them, because we did, regardless of that.
- 42:25And so I think that that support would have tripled or quadrupled if.
- 42:29If Milestone was as much a movement this time as it was last time, right?
- 42:34It was a movie because we hadn't seen that in comics the first time.
- 42:38The second time, it.
- 42:39In my opinion, it should have been a gathering, right?
- 42:42Like the.
- 42:43My.
- 42:43Like when they even had the Milestone initiative and Dorado Quick.
- 42:46That's my guy.
- 42:47Greg Burnham is my guy.
- 42:48And I'm glad that they got to do Their thing.
- 42:50But that should have been a movement, right?
- 42:52Like, that should have been the churning that started something else.
- 42:55And unfortunately, that didn't happen.
- 42:57So that makes me a very depressed, you know, Milestone fan in that regard.
- 43:03You know, this is one of the reasons why, like, Blair Station is existing.
- 43:08Is existing right now.
- 43:10Being able to take a lot of these stories and put them in other mediums, in most cases, stay in the same medium and still get out, to get out to the masses once again.
- 43:24There are stories that can be told in fresh, new ways, you know, and we.
- 43:31We're having those opportunities now.
- 43:33And you're right.
- 43:34In the situation, like, with the Milestone relaunch, you know, it was there.
- 43:38We were happy because we got it, but then it was just like.
- 43:40Yeah, but did it feel like the same boom that we got in the early 90s?
- 43:44Yeah.
- 43:44Yeah.
- 43:45You know, and it felt.
- 43:47It felt cold a little bit.
- 43:49It felt like he was kneecapped, you know, to a degree.
- 43:52And I'm like, man, we should be hearing more about this.
- 43:54Why are we not getting more?
- 43:57And why are you releasing it in the way that you really.
- 43:59Oh, there's a problem.
- 44:01Yeah.
- 44:02And I agree with Brian.
- 44:03It should have been a movement.
- 44:04Because when.
- 44:05When Milestone, when the word I got nothing, Milestone was coming back, I sat there and literally thought, now the door is going to open for these other black comic creators who've been waiting for this door to open so
- 44:17they can come in.
- 44:18And so, hey, I want to be on board.
- 44:20I want to bring my characters along with this universe so that way people can see there's more to it than the standard characters that people have been seeing for years.
- 44:31And I think somewhere along the lines, somebody said, yeah, that's a bit too much, so we're going to kneecap it.
- 44:38Right?
- 44:38But I think what they fail to realize is you can trip somebody up, but.
- 44:42But unless they fall and don't move, they're gonna keep moving.
- 44:45And these different companies out here know Wingless and Ray and.
- 44:49And Midnight Comics, doing God's work, okay.
- 44:55Something I can introduce to my grandchildren and that I'm.
- 44:58I'm very proud to be a part of.
- 45:00So.
- 45:01Sir.
- 45:03You know, so I think that.
- 45:04I think that a piece of it, and it's unfortunate, right?
- 45:06But I feel like.
- 45:08And again, I'm not in D.C.
- 45:09editorial, so I don't actually know, right.
- 45:11But I feel like some of it stagnated and it fell back on some of those old storytelling mechanics, even, whereas we wanted something newer and.
- 45:20And fresher and an updated take on, on what we had seen before.
- 45:26And, and you do have, again, you get, you got people like Sebastian and Stranger Comics and Uraeus who just launched Jason Wise.
- 45:32Yeah, there's, there are these crazy, crazy movements going on.
- 45:35Right.
- 45:36Got the brother who did Dark Pink over there.
- 45:38You know, just so many things that, that again, there's so much potential and so much that can be mined from this community that mainstream hasn't really realized yet.
- 45:50Which I, I think that's a plus and a minus.
- 45:52Right.
- 45:53Because mainstream has a way of, once they find out, they try to mine everything until it's dead.
- 45:59Thank you.
- 46:00And, and, and, and that becomes a casualty.
- 46:02So there's a part of me that's happy that that hasn't happened yet.
- 46:05And I hope by the time that mainstream does get aware and does try to do that, attempt to do that, I hope that we are educated enough, Right.
- 46:13To, to take the benefits of that but not suffer the consequences.
- 46:19And that comes into the business aspects of it.
- 46:22Right.
- 46:22And the contracts and what we're willing to do and not willing to do and knowing our value and annoying our worth.
- 46:27So I'm hoping that there's a given, a give and take because again, it's bound to happen.
- 46:32It's, again, it's, it's, it's capitalism.
- 46:33It's going to happen at some point.
- 46:35Right.
- 46:35But if we're educated and if we are, if we know what to do, then it won't matter if we know.
- 46:44Our power keep, keep harnessing so we can become stronger and they can't take from us.
- 46:50So we talked about Air Force Ones, we talked about the main, the main three a little bit and where they, where they're stumbling and we talked about some of the black creative indies that are out here.
- 47:04Let's talk about some of the other titles you have going on.
- 47:06Yes, sir.
- 47:07Please.
- 47:08So the Wings, the Wingless Universe.
- 47:11I'm very fortunate.
- 47:12The Wingless Universe is an interconnected universe and as we get more issues, you see the interconnectivity.
- 47:18So we started out with Nightfall, which is a, a five part series that we.
- 47:22The beginning and ending.
- 47:23It's five part crossover series that had justice, it featured justice, it featured her, it featured Caliburn, it featured Avery the Astonishing and it had a couple cameos across the indie universe.
- 47:33So that sets the stage for all of our characters kind of coming together.
- 47:37Like I said, I mentioned her.
- 47:39And that is Malachi Bailey's character that spun off from his novel, his award winning novel, her.
- 47:45And then he had the second volume of that novel.
- 47:48And he's working on the third right now to end her trilogy in novel form.
- 47:52And she will continue her adventures in comics.
- 47:56And so her is a water elemental and immortal that every time she dies, she has to come back and remember her life and figure out her life and figure out why she is being killed.
- 48:05She's known as the oldest woman because she's been around since the beginning of time.
- 48:11So she's got a lot of mystery and a lot of.
- 48:13Of things kind of in her corner and also against her.
- 48:16So I love seeing her and justice together, because justice is said to be the angel that barred the gates of Eden and that brought down the walls of Jericho.
- 48:25And obviously he's been doing all these ethereal things right throughout the universe and throughout the galaxy as our timeline has gone on.
- 48:32So to see those two interact, like, I love how they crisscross each other.
- 48:37And you're going to see a deeper history between those two as well.
- 48:42We also have Immortalis.
- 48:43And Immortalis is the story of the fall of the last bastion of the Roman Empire.
- 48:48And so basically, that sets the stage for everything that happens in the Wing, the contemporary Wingless universe.
- 48:54So Immortalis is set slightly in the past, a couple hundred years in the past, and it watches Constantinople fall, which opens the gateway for darkness.
- 49:03Right.
- 49:04Wingless.
- 49:04The Wingless universe is a quote unquote, dark universe, right?
- 49:07It's our timeline.
- 49:08But if, if the worst of the worst demons and.
- 49:12And monsters were let loose and we had no heroes to stop them.
- 49:17And so Immortalis sets the stage for that.
- 49:20It's the last pass, you know, the last place, you know, the last holdout.
- 49:24We also have, for lack of better words, acquired.
- 49:27And we're working in partnership with Constant Hustle comics and Lawrence James King and Avery the Astonishing is actually a legit and strategic part of Wingless Comics as well.
- 49:38So Avery the Astonishing's history is part of Wingless.
- 49:41And you'll see that as we get into issue two, where you see, again, where the crossovers kind of happen.
- 49:47And you'll see some Easter eggs of some of the wingless characters in the background of Avery.
- 49:51So that you see they're all in the same world as well as.
- 49:55And Lawrence, you can't kill me because you're on the east coast and I'm on the West Coast.
- 49:59But we are also going to bring over the Last Line, which is Lawrence James King's other title for his.
- 50:05His cadre of family heroes.
- 50:08They're also part of the Wingless Universe.
- 50:10So they're probably the, the, the plan is to have them for our next crossover, which is called Paradise Lost, where we bring in all the Wingless characters again until a big larger than life, you know, five, six part
- 50:22story again.
- 50:25This is gonna be amazing.
- 50:27We, we really try.
- 50:30And I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a little victory lap because Wingless Comics, not me specifically, but Wingless Comics is very fortunate because a lot of people set out to do crossovers and set out to do multi issue
- 50:43arcs and just because of the way this business is, it's not really feasible.
- 50:46It's very hard to do.
- 50:47It's not an easy feat.
- 50:49And Wingless Comics has been blessed and fortunate and strategic enough within our first two years, we were able to put out an entire trade paperback, an entire five issue crossover, Right.
- 51:00In addition to the other comics that we were producing at the same time.
- 51:04So we look forward to being able to do those big events because I believe that our fans and our supporters deserve that as well.
- 51:10Right.
- 51:10I don't only need to see Marvel doing, you know, the age of Apocalypse or the aftermath of Apocalypse.
- 51:17I want to be able to produce those stories myself and ourselves.
- 51:22And so that's what we're doing at Wingless.
- 51:24Right.
- 51:25And that's, and that's part of, of bringing all these characters together.
- 51:29I love this, this is awesome because, and I'm glad you mentioned that because when you are in this business of comics and storytelling and when you, you perfectly described the whole crossover issue with a lot of things, it's
- 51:48a lot of politics involved.
- 51:50It is, it's a lot of positive and honestly, it's a lot of ego.
- 51:53Like let's.
- 51:53Yeah, I'll be real.
- 51:54Right.
- 51:55Like again, I started.
- 51:56We did Nightfall within the first year we released justice number one.
- 52:00And I.
- 52:00Not even, I think before her number one hit, you know, we were on her zero and I was like, nightfall.
- 52:07Okay, cool.
- 52:08Nightfall number one.
- 52:08Right.
- 52:09Let's do it.
- 52:10And we worked with Concert Hustle Comics and we worked with Concept Moon Studios and Lawrence is my, my big brother and Brandon Diddley's my big brother as well.
- 52:19And truth be told, me and Brandon got into it over marketing, over all these things, right.
- 52:25Not necessarily characters and what happens with the story because we had hashed all that out.
- 52:28But it's also business, right?
- 52:30We forget that a lot of this.
- 52:32We love what we do and it's very passionate, but it's also business, right?
- 52:36And business takes time and it takes communication and you have to put your ego to the side and you have to do what's best for business.
- 52:46And neither I nor Brandon at the time did that to the extent that we needed to.
- 52:52Right.
- 52:52Again, we're good now and everything is fine.
- 52:55And everything went out the way it was supposed to go out.
- 52:57But initially that was hard, right?
- 52:59Initially those were hard conversations.
- 53:01And a lot of times we don't get through those hard conversations.
- 53:04A lot of times we just get the glitz and glam of, oh, we all put our characters together.
- 53:08Okay, great.
- 53:08But what does that actually mean?
- 53:10What are we actually doing with that?
- 53:12What is the actual goal?
- 53:14And those things are important and very, very often get overlooked and very, very often can lead to worsening outcomes.
- 53:22So again, we're fortunate with Wingless that, that we were able to strategically put this together and again, do it from beginning to end.
- 53:29There are a lot of companies that have been around 10 plus years that haven't been able to do a crossover and to do a multi part story.
- 53:35And we were able to do it within one.
- 53:37So, you know, I.
- 53:40I'll never stop being thankful for that.
- 53:44Wow, y'.
- 53:45All.
- 53:45If y' all have not had the chance to go over to Wingless, wingless entertainment or winglessint.com, y' all need to go check this out because this gives you a glimpse into what they are creating here at Wingless Comics.
- 53:58Let me tell you, I looked at it before when I was at work and I work at a gaming comic book store.
- 54:03So, you know, we're.
- 54:04We're dealing with that all the time.
- 54:05And I went over and clicked on it and I just.
- 54:07I.
- 54:07So I sat so transfixed.
- 54:09Takes on this that I didn't hear, hear my.
- 54:12My manager go, my tail.
- 54:14My.
- 54:14My tail.
- 54:16My tail.
- 54:17Huh?
- 54:17Oh, okay.
- 54:18Got it.
- 54:19And they came over and they were trans.
- 54:20I said, what are you looking at?
- 54:21What were you looking at?
- 54:22I was looking at that.
- 54:23What's that?
- 54:23And I said, well, I'm glad you asked.
- 54:25And I brought him out to him.
- 54:27I was kind of embarrassed, but, y', all, this is beautiful.
- 54:31To see this collective talent create something this magical.
- 54:36It.
- 54:36It does something to my heart.
- 54:37Y' all need to go check these out because these folks is working.
- 54:41Folks is working.
- 54:42Okay?
- 54:47It's.
- 54:48I think that getting an opportunity, right, to talk about something that I love with gentlemen that are as studied in this craft as yourselves, right?
- 54:58Like, you guys aren't just, hey, I sat down and did a podcast, right?
- 55:01Like, you know, comics, you know, conventions, you know, material, you know, stories.
- 55:06And to be able to come and talk story and say, like.
- 55:09And have someone say, hey, man, this is dope.
- 55:11Like, I genuinely.
- 55:12Hey, I just really like this thing that you're doing.
- 55:14Not the promotion side, not the other thing.
- 55:17Like, I want to see the shirt.
- 55:19I want to see the character.
- 55:20I want to.
- 55:21You know what I mean?
- 55:22That means a lot more.
- 55:24Look, sales are great, but sales come and go.
- 55:28True.
- 55:28What doesn't come and go is people that are actually interested in the work you do, right?
- 55:33And so I think for me, that that is more quantifiable.
- 55:38Not in dollars and cents, obviously, but it's more quantifiable and it means more to me personally, right?
- 55:43Because.
- 55:43And I said this when I first hit the scene, I was like, I can write justice for the rest of my life, right?
- 55:48Like, that can come out of my own pocket, and I can produce that and publish that.
- 55:51I own the means of production for that.
- 55:53So that's never going to go away if I don't want it to.
- 55:55To.
- 55:55Same for Air Force One.
- 55:56Same for the things that I'm doing.
- 55:59But when you have somebody that wants to read it or have someone that's interested or understands where you're coming from, when you talk about Macross or when you talk about Battleship, Yamato, you know what I mean?
- 56:09Like, when people know you're like, man, I'm gonna do this thing, and then they can really get with you.
- 56:14You know what I mean?
- 56:14Like, that's a.
- 56:15That's a.
- 56:15That's a different level of success, right?
- 56:18That's a different level of achievement.
- 56:20And that's the level that.
- 56:23That too, sometimes, to the consternation and annoyance of Brett and Lawrence and Malachi and my wife and everybody else that, like, I try to live up to, right?
- 56:33Because we're gonna come out and.
- 56:35Nah, Mal, write that again.
- 56:36Nah, Mal, write that again.
- 56:38Nah, that don't make no sense.
- 56:39Write it again.
- 56:40Right?
- 56:40And he's gonna hate me by the end of the editing process.
- 56:43When it comes out, it's gonna be fired up, you know?
- 56:45But when you get to the end of that process and he looks back and goes, I see what you were talking about.
- 56:50Now you've planted that seed.
- 56:52And as that seed continues to grow, you created something beautiful, right?
- 56:57And that's always the foundation of companies like Wingless Comics and Noah, like Midnight Comics.
- 57:03Just a beautiful collective of.
- 57:07Of imagination and creativity and.
- 57:10And dedication.
- 57:12Because we mentioned before, Marvel and dc, I.
- 57:15I hate to say y' all are getting kind of complacent because you're expecting people to come to Your stuff.
- 57:21But I realized if it, if it matters or not, however, you have companies like Wingless Comics, like Ray Comics, like Midnight, who are going, oh, you want something that's meaningful and that's created.
- 57:32Come on.
- 57:33Come on over.
- 57:33Come on.
- 57:34You got Kingwood, you know.
- 57:38Right.
- 57:38Killer B.
- 57:39Right, right, right.
- 57:40You got things like that.
- 57:41Exactly, exactly.
- 57:42You got things like this.
- 57:44So it.
- 57:44It really is.
- 57:46It's more than a breath of fresh air.
- 57:48It's just awake.
- 57:51Yeah, yeah.
- 57:53Spartans in the building.
- 57:54Our ship.
- 57:55Right?
- 57:55What's going on?
- 57:59Yeah, Deacon Deadlift is way tired.
- 58:05So I.
- 58:06This.
- 58:06It's been, it's.
- 58:07It's.
- 58:08It's a refreshing thing when you have like maybe, just maybe didn't even name a fraction of the black owned.
- 58:18Right?
- 58:18That's like a portion.
- 58:19It's not.
- 58:20I don't know if that's how you can place it, but that's just a.
- 58:24That's just the tip of the iceberg.
- 58:26Other people that we, We've listed, like, there are so many more who have, like, some.
- 58:31They either have great art, great storytelling, fresh new ideas, original ideas, representation across the board, different shades, colors, backgrounds.
- 58:49This is why a lot of something that's.
- 58:51Something that's incredibly important, that again, gets missed with some of the things that we see out of Marvel and DC and whoever.
- 58:57Right.
- 58:58Is culture is just as important or more important even than color.
- 59:03Color, right.
- 59:04So I.
- 59:06There, There is always that argument of like, oh, well, we don't want reskinned characters and blah.
- 59:10Look, I want it all.
- 59:11Give me.
- 59:11If, if every.
- 59:13If you turn.
- 59:13If DC turns every redheaded character into a black character, all ATV shows, fine, I'm cool with that.
- 59:19But again, that's not where it stops.
- 59:21I'm not going to cheer that on.
- 59:22And for that to be the end, the, the goal, right, is to represent who we are as a culture.
- 59:28And I think that I, I always work with this idea of cultural exchange, which I think is very, very big.
- 59:33And I don't think that black people get the credit for.
- 59:37For doing it and having done it historically, that we deserve.
- 59:42And I, when I say that, I mean like black Americans, right?
- 59:45Because again, that gets conflated when you say black people, then it's like, oh, man, the diaspora.
- 59:49I'm not, it's not necessarily what I'm talking about.
- 59:51And that's no disrespect to anyone in the diaspora.
- 59:53What I am saying, though, is that there are a lot of things.
- 59:56You have UK Drill rap now.
- 59:58Right?
- 59:59Right.
- 59:59But UK Drill rap comes from Drill Rap, which comes from rap, which come.
- 1:00:04You know what I mean?
- 1:00:04Again, let's, let's go back.
- 1:00:05Okay, so that's.
- 1:00:06Again, that's a black American thing that started.
- 1:00:08And there are so many things like that again, that, that happens again.
- 1:00:11K pop is, is a big one.
- 1:00:13You can talk about a lot of the Harajuku culture in Japan and on and on and on.
- 1:00:17And I have no problem with any of these things, right?
- 1:00:20Because those cultures don't necessarily take credit.
- 1:00:23Like they invented it.
- 1:00:24It.
- 1:00:24What happens in America though is they repackage it like those people are saying that they invented it.
- 1:00:31And so I think it's very important for our cultural identity to be matriculated in a way that we decide it is and we say, hey, basically, like they do to us, right?
- 1:00:42We're loaning this to you.
- 1:00:43Look, I can go into a manga space, I can go into an anime space, but I realize that it's on loan, right?
- 1:00:49Like it's.
- 1:00:49Someone else created it.
- 1:00:51I'm just doing my thing within it.
- 1:00:53And, and it's.
- 1:00:54It's high time for how we tell stories and how we, how we dispense and disperse our culture to be done that same way.
- 1:01:05No, no, you can do it.
- 1:01:07Right?
- 1:01:07But this is us.
- 1:01:08I am so tired of Kim Kardashian being the one who created a wife beater or cornrows or whatever else, you know, I mean, like, it just makes zero sense.
- 1:01:17Sense, right?
- 1:01:18But again, that in the American press, that's what's what happens.
- 1:01:21And so I think that the cultural exchange and how we deal with what we culturally lend other people needs to change.
- 1:01:27And I think that starts with storytelling, at least for me, right?
- 1:01:30There are going to be other people that do it in other ways.
- 1:01:32For me and for the black comics community, it starts with storytelling.
- 1:01:35It starts with this word of mouth.
- 1:01:37It's.
- 1:01:37Look for the rap artist.
- 1:01:38It starts with your storytelling, bro.
- 1:01:40It starts with your beats, it starts with your music.
- 1:01:43And I think that that's just incredibly important.
- 1:01:45And when we're doing that, and we're doing that at our highest level, we can't be beat.
- 1:01:51You know what I mean?
- 1:01:51Like, and that's just, that's just the fact of the matter, right?
- 1:01:54When we're doing, when rap was at its highest level, that's why it took over.
- 1:01:59It was something that was unfathomable.
- 1:02:01No one could do it the same way no one could.
- 1:02:03You can't copy, you can't duplicate it.
- 1:02:05You can't.
- 1:02:06That's why pop music is Pop music because they couldn't do R B.
- 1:02:09So they were like, well, we're gonna do this music.
- 1:02:13Right.
- 1:02:13It's closed.
- 1:02:14But we did.
- 1:02:14We just don't quite have it right.
- 1:02:16The Swedish, to their credit, the Swedish got really close business.
- 1:02:22You know what I'm saying?
- 1:02:23So the Swedish got real close.
- 1:02:25But again, those are things.
- 1:02:27When we.
- 1:02:27When we.
- 1:02:28When we hold those things dear and keep those things close and make sure that those things are us and deeply associated with us.
- 1:02:35Us, that changes the narrative and it changes the dynamic of.
- 1:02:40Of this cultural exchange that we're already engaged in.
- 1:02:43Right, right.
- 1:02:44But then.
- 1:02:44But then we hold the means of production and.
- 1:02:47And I'm.
- 1:02:47I hammer that home because me and Jason hammer that home when we're talking about things.
- 1:02:51And it's a principle that goes throughout everything that we do in life.
- 1:02:57Yeah, you said it.
- 1:03:00Because culture.
- 1:03:02I.
- 1:03:02I always.
- 1:03:03I always said they loved.
- 1:03:04I said, in the words of Paul Mooney, everybody want to be one.
- 1:03:07Nobody want to be one.
- 1:03:11Right, Right, right, right.
- 1:03:14I think this is a great conversation because here we don't do interviews.
- 1:03:21We do conversations.
- 1:03:23Precisely.
- 1:03:24Amen.
- 1:03:25Like, they're just.
- 1:03:26That's just what it is.
- 1:03:27Brian.
- 1:03:27We're gonna take a break.
- 1:03:30We're gonna talk about.
- 1:03:31Because we're in our spooky season, right?
- 1:03:33Yes.
- 1:03:33We're going to talk about black vampire films and shows that you should be watching.
- 1:03:43Always black, right?
- 1:03:45Always back.
- 1:03:46Can you join for that?
- 1:03:48Yeah, definitely.
- 1:03:49100.
- 1:03:49100.
- 1:03:50Okay.
- 1:03:50Definitely.
- 1:03:51Okay.
- 1:03:51So we'll be right back with our guest, Brian J.
- 1:03:53Lamb.
- 1:03:56Blur Eye View is a proud affiliate of Otaku Noir.
- 1:03:59Use the code Blurred's eye view for 10% off on all items with a different nerd themed box filled with items made by talented blurds across the country.
- 1:04:07You surely will not be disappointed.
- 1:04:09Go to attack onoir.com attack on war the number one blurred mystery box company running low on energy, long days and even longer nights.
- 1:04:22Tired of all the other energy drinks and bars.
- 1:04:24Promise you a lot and never delivering.
- 1:04:27Need to make it through work.
- 1:04:28But want a product that can keep up with your busy lifestyle.
- 1:04:32Want no longer try Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls.
- 1:04:36The balls that are so smooth and with a load of nutrients and vitamins to really get you up and bouncing off the walls.
- 1:04:42Made with all natural ingredients and healthy junk to satisfy even the pickiest ear.
- 1:04:48Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls are sold everywhere where you buy your junk.
- 1:04:51And now for those who want that extra kick in the butt comes Chef's heavy duty Chocolate salty balls.
- 1:04:56With 120% more caffeine than the leading brand.
- 1:04:59Disclaimer.
- 1:05:00This product has not been approved by the FDA or World Health Association.
- 1:05:05Warning.
- 1:05:05This product is not intended for consumption by children, elderly people or women who are pregnant or may become pregnant and you might even get pregnant.
- 1:05:18All right, we are back with our guest, Brian J.
- 1:05:21Lambert.
- 1:05:22What's going on, Brian?
- 1:05:23Thank you for doing all these great things.
- 1:05:25Talking about wingless comics.
- 1:05:27Now we are stepping into black vampire films and shows you need to be watching.
- 1:05:34And there are more than you think.
- 1:05:36I'm going to show.
- 1:05:39I'm going to show.
- 1:05:41I was trying to figure out how I want to do this.
- 1:05:43I'm going to show a few things, just a few images, and I want each one of you to tell me what you think.
- 1:05:50What's the first thing that comes to your mind for.
- 1:05:53For just these couple of properties.
- 1:05:57So we're going to start with our man, Blade.
- 1:06:01The O.G.
- 1:06:02Yes, sir.
- 1:06:06Always be named.
- 1:06:07Yeah, he's always going to be.
- 1:06:10He's always going to be Blade.
- 1:06:11It's always going to be one Blade.
- 1:06:12There's never going to be another.
- 1:06:13And yet how true that is becoming.
- 1:06:16Right, right.
- 1:06:17That was a joke.
- 1:06:23What we thought was a joke.
- 1:06:26So.
- 1:06:28So yeah, Brian, what's the first thing?
- 1:06:32Don't stink me, y', all, but I love the fight scenes, so let me say that I love the fight scenes.
- 1:06:40I did not like Blade two, though.
- 1:06:42Oh.
- 1:06:43I thought it was convoluted.
- 1:06:45Right?
- 1:06:45Like it was a cgi, wasn't it?
- 1:06:48Right, right.
- 1:06:48They.
- 1:06:49No, well, the story wise.
- 1:06:50They do a lot of things to do nothing.
- 1:06:53I knew y'.
- 1:06:54All.
- 1:06:54I knew y' all was gonna betray me the whole time.
- 1:06:56Then why'd you just kill him, bro?
- 1:06:57Why do we do all that?
- 1:06:58Right?
- 1:06:59He said the whole setup, the whole.
- 1:07:01The whole plot hole in the middle of it.
- 1:07:02I get that part where it's like, right.
- 1:07:04They trained eight years to take you out and now you gotta work with them.
- 1:07:09And you're right.
- 1:07:10Paranoid.
- 1:07:12Right?
- 1:07:12And then what happened to the.
- 1:07:13What happened to the daytime suits?
- 1:07:15They came out.
- 1:07:16They had them in the beginning and then they didn't.
- 1:07:17They just didn't use them for nothing.
- 1:07:19It's just also.
- 1:07:21Okay, last thing, real quick.
- 1:07:23I have a huge beef with Blade three and not for the reason.
- 1:07:26Well, because it did suck.
- 1:07:27Right?
- 1:07:27But Blade three, there's a part at which Dracula gives this speech talking about how they're honorable men and blah, blah, blah, and they gonna have this sword fight while he's holding a baby.
- 1:07:37Dangling off of a roof.
- 1:07:40How can you.
- 1:07:40We are honorable men.
- 1:07:42As I'm about to kill this innocent baby, I just.
- 1:07:44I was like, who wrote this?
- 1:07:48You know, somebody's coffee was spiked.
- 1:07:51It's like.
- 1:07:53More and more, you realize why Wesley was being where he was on set.
- 1:07:58Right?
- 1:07:58You're just like, right.
- 1:07:59It's not his fault.
- 1:08:00It's not.
- 1:08:01It's not his fault, but it's.
- 1:08:02It's whoever was on that Michelle Pfeiffer when they wrote that story.
- 1:08:05Right.
- 1:08:06Right.
- 1:08:06Thank you.
- 1:08:07Whoever's in the writers room talking about, you know, it'll be great.
- 1:08:09Okay.
- 1:08:10Okay.
- 1:08:11He's talking about, baby.
- 1:08:18Is.
- 1:08:18Is Brian Pearlman.
- 1:08:21Right?
- 1:08:22Right.
- 1:08:23You had Ron Perlman, which could have been a great person to have as a vampire.
- 1:08:27I still say, like this.
- 1:08:28You had Donnie Yen as the Iceman, and.
- 1:08:31And you wasted nothing with him.
- 1:08:33Not a thing.
- 1:08:35Oh, my God.
- 1:08:37I just knew watching that in theaters and telling my wife this Donnie in.
- 1:08:43Oh, we about to have a black.
- 1:08:44Wait, he ain't do nothing.
- 1:08:46Nope.
- 1:08:46You don't even see.
- 1:08:48Right.
- 1:08:48I thought he was gonna be the climactic battle scene.
- 1:08:50I was like, when they do some kung fu, this is gonna be the Donnie Yen show.
- 1:08:54I was.
- 1:08:54I was ready.
- 1:08:55And then.
- 1:08:58Cause y' all don't make me mad.
- 1:08:59I'm go watch it.
- 1:09:00Huge disappointment.
- 1:09:01Huge disrespect.
- 1:09:03Yo, if you haven't watched Dragon, Tiger Gate, go check that one out though, too.
- 1:09:07That's a good one.
- 1:09:07Tanya is fire in Dragon?
- 1:09:09Yes.
- 1:09:11So, Spartan, what's your thoughts on Blade just showing that image?
- 1:09:17What's the voice of things that come to mind?
- 1:09:18Right.
- 1:09:20Have you lost your goddamn mind?
- 1:09:25That was.
- 1:09:25I.
- 1:09:26Like, that didn't look like that was in the script, now, did it?
- 1:09:28It was like, I.
- 1:09:30I still say it like this every time I get to that part.
- 1:09:33It's like.
- 1:09:34Like you said, Like.
- 1:09:34Like you said Fury.
- 1:09:36I think that was AD Lived, and I think a stuntman just got it wrong.
- 1:09:39Like, oh, crap, this was supposed to be blanks.
- 1:09:42Oh, crap.
- 1:09:43Oh, crap, this is supposed to be.
- 1:09:45And Wesley kind of broke character for a second.
- 1:09:47He went from brooding to just said.
- 1:09:49No, keep that in the film.
- 1:09:50That was.
- 1:09:51That was.
- 1:09:52That was gorgeous.
- 1:09:53That was perfect.
- 1:09:54Keep it what?
- 1:09:56Yeah, Hurt.
- 1:09:58This best ain't for show.
- 1:10:02But.
- 1:10:02No, no, that's what.
- 1:10:03Let's come to play.
- 1:10:04I mean, outside of.
- 1:10:05Outside of.
- 1:10:06Again, we.
- 1:10:06We know the.
- 1:10:08We know the impact.
- 1:10:09And what led to the beginning of the MCU was basically because this is, of course, the first ever you could Argue all you want to.
- 1:10:18I know we won't this.
- 1:10:19I know we won this group, but they showed a successful superhero movie that you can do.
- 1:10:26Marvel's out there and said, oh, we're just gonna call it Marvel Knights, because if it bombs, we could just sit there and say, y'.
- 1:10:32All.
- 1:10:32Y' all are the.
- 1:10:32Y', all, the redheaded stepchild of the group.
- 1:10:34But no, outside that.
- 1:10:36I mean, it set a different tone for a story.
- 1:10:38It wasn't the typical vampire brooding, I want to suck your blood and damsel in distress and all that mess.
- 1:10:46Although there were some elements in it.
- 1:10:47But it was really.
- 1:10:50It was really.
- 1:10:50I'm not gonna lie, it was really speaking us as black folks because we wanted a black superhero look.
- 1:10:58It set the standard.
- 1:11:00Oh, indeed.
- 1:11:01Definitely set the standard.
- 1:11:02Indeed.
- 1:11:05Maybe what's the first thing to come to mind when you see Blake.
- 1:11:09Legacy?
- 1:11:11Because when Blaze, that should be the fourth film.
- 1:11:15Right.
- 1:11:16When Blade came out in the theaters, this.
- 1:11:20And I.
- 1:11:21And I went and saw it in the theaters with.
- 1:11:23With my dad.
- 1:11:24And this was one of those movies that.
- 1:11:26It brought all of us out.
- 1:11:28And I'm gonna tell you what's funny.
- 1:11:30In the theater, black folk, we know when something's good because you'll hear us.
- 1:11:33Who also know when something shitty.
- 1:11:35You'll hear us.
- 1:11:36Yeah, it's like the apart.
- 1:11:38It's like Showtime at the Apollo.
- 1:11:39Yeah.
- 1:11:39If it's like, what the.
- 1:11:41That didn't just jump all the way over there.
- 1:11:45Yo, it was.
- 1:11:46But what's so funny is after leaving the theater, the energy people were still talking, and we're still chatting about it.
- 1:11:54Yo, Wesley looked dope.
- 1:11:56I mean, he wasn't playing around.
- 1:11:57It was.
- 1:11:58It wasn't a disrespect to the character.
- 1:12:00And those of us who love the comics know how they wrote Blade and how they made him seem like a second string character.
- 1:12:07He didn't feel second string in that movie.
- 1:12:10He was up front.
- 1:12:11He was up front.
- 1:12:13Especially.
- 1:12:14Especially when you get a dose of blood and you suplex somebody and you come up with the woosh.
- 1:12:24At that.
- 1:12:25Right, right.
- 1:12:34I felt bad for the vampire Loki.
- 1:12:36Like.
- 1:12:38That was still my.
- 1:12:39That was still my favorite.
- 1:12:40How you gonna look somebody dead in the eye while you hold him?
- 1:12:42Like, right, Just drop the man at this point, he can't fight back.
- 1:12:49What we doing?
- 1:12:50This is what we do.
- 1:12:51Okay, that, that, and that and multiple kick in the ribs until you kick him across the room.
- 1:12:56And I'm like, yo.
- 1:12:57Oh, damn.
- 1:12:58But you talk about setting the stage, though, Rev.
- 1:13:01The first 10.
- 1:13:02The first 20 minutes.
- 1:13:04Yeah.
- 1:13:04Right.
- 1:13:04I mean.
- 1:13:05Yeah.
- 1:13:05How many movies could sit there and say that the first 20 minutes is probably the hardest to ever duplicate another movie?
- 1:13:13Yeah.
- 1:13:14To introduce a Marvel character.
- 1:13:16The most relevant.
- 1:13:20Val says.
- 1:13:21Yep.
- 1:13:21Blade Legacy.
- 1:13:22Come now.
- 1:13:22October 31, 2027.
- 1:13:26I am down for it.
- 1:13:27Let's go.
- 1:13:28I would like to have a Blade legacy, but we're gonna have a GTA 6 first.
- 1:13:31When we have a Blade movie at this point.
- 1:13:32Right.
- 1:13:33And if we do make sure that we have the child of Whistler taking up the mantle as being that, you know, being that back that dude, it's like, come on.
- 1:13:44Instead, it'd be like his daughter or maybe something like that.
- 1:13:48I think that would be fire if they did something like that.
- 1:13:51Yeah.
- 1:13:51It would be glorious.
- 1:13:52It would be.
- 1:13:54Here's another film I want everybody's opinion on.
- 1:13:58Queen of the Damn.
- 1:13:59Oh.
- 1:14:00Oh.
- 1:14:00God rest us all.
- 1:14:02That woman, we lost her way too soon during filming.
- 1:14:07No doubt.
- 1:14:08Right?
- 1:14:08I, I her best.
- 1:14:10I would say that was probably her.
- 1:14:11That was probably the what, if not her best acting role above Romeo mustache.
- 1:14:17Yeah.
- 1:14:17I was just about to say, how dare you disrespect Romeo Must Die.
- 1:14:21I won't not.
- 1:14:22Here's the way.
- 1:14:23Now, I will say this.
- 1:14:24This.
- 1:14:25I will never disrespect the Jet Li movie because in my mind, that man.
- 1:14:28Never made a bad movie.
- 1:14:28Oh, yeah, that's right.
- 1:14:30Right.
- 1:14:30But if we're saying.
- 1:14:31But if we're saying from the late Aaliyah, she killed the role.
- 1:14:35She killed the role of the Queen of the Vampires.
- 1:14:37Because the first time it came out, everybody was like, aaliyah, right?
- 1:14:44You had a lot of people going at R B.
- 1:14:46Singer is going to take on this role to where?
- 1:14:51And everybody's like, well, has she ever done acting?
- 1:14:53I mean, you heard all the napkins out there.
- 1:14:55She's only done singing.
- 1:14:56She's done dancing.
- 1:14:57This is a whole different area.
- 1:14:59The movie came out and shut everybody.
- 1:15:04She nailed it.
- 1:15:06Literally a case of do not talk about what someone can't do because you haven't seen it when you realize they could do it.
- 1:15:14You just haven't seen it.
- 1:15:18Between her and.
- 1:15:19And from the last series, Sonalathon, I would be a vampire so damn quick.
- 1:15:25Like, there's no, hey, Brian, did you get turned, bro?
- 1:15:29Don't even ask me that.
- 1:15:30You know.
- 1:15:33You give them that.
- 1:15:33You give him that look like, come on now.
- 1:15:35Yeah, yeah, right.
- 1:15:39Here.
- 1:15:39Just go ahead and bite me.
- 1:15:40Why she looked like Lathan, man.
- 1:15:42Why she look like Snyder?
- 1:15:44Yo, what up, shorty.
- 1:15:47I am not ashamed to say, when I seen that Eric Brooks mother was annihilating, and I'm like.
- 1:15:56Like I said, I'd have been turned hella quick.
- 1:16:01I understand.
- 1:16:04All I gotta say is, between her and Bianca Lawson.
- 1:16:07Yeah, right.
- 1:16:10I understand.
- 1:16:10Now, like, you're just like, I.
- 1:16:14I would.
- 1:16:14I would get paused at that.
- 1:16:16At that point, I would get paused.
- 1:16:20I mean, I'll be a night person.
- 1:16:21I'll live with that.
- 1:16:22I mean, what has the sun really done for me lately?
- 1:16:24Right?
- 1:16:24Right.
- 1:16:25Yo, come on now.
- 1:16:27Right?
- 1:16:28We get mad.
- 1:16:30Why is it bright?
- 1:16:30This is one of the things, like, so, right?
- 1:16:33So blaze mama turf.
- 1:16:36I understand, bro.
- 1:16:36I understand.
- 1:16:37I understand.
- 1:16:38Right, right.
- 1:16:39That's not one of the ones you question.
- 1:16:40You don't look at him like, how dare you?
- 1:16:42You're like, well, bro, well, I would try to dap you up, but I can't let you in.
- 1:16:47So, I mean, look, it's that slow nod, like, yeah, I mean, I.
- 1:16:51I get you, but.
- 1:16:52Right, right, right.
- 1:16:53That's Rumor Brothers.
- 1:16:54Everybody got stinks.
- 1:16:55I'm like, he got turned.
- 1:16:57Who turned him?
- 1:16:57She did.
- 1:16:59Well, you know.
- 1:17:03So bad.
- 1:17:04Right?
- 1:17:04How much garlic do we need?
- 1:17:07I'm like.
- 1:17:08You'd be sitting there.
- 1:17:08You almost sitting there thinking about it.
- 1:17:10The rationalization kicks in.
- 1:17:11Like, is really.
- 1:17:13Is really drinking.
- 1:17:14Is that.
- 1:17:14I mean, I can give up meat.
- 1:17:15You can still eat meat, right?
- 1:17:17I mean, y' all good on me.
- 1:17:19I mean, y'.
- 1:17:19All.
- 1:17:19Y' all ain't vegans, right?
- 1:17:21That's the only thing I'm worried about.
- 1:17:22Right, Right.
- 1:17:25Like Brussels sprouts.
- 1:17:26No way.
- 1:17:31Here's another one.
- 1:17:34Oh, yeah.
- 1:17:37Oh, man.
- 1:17:38I will watch this every time it's on.
- 1:17:42Every single time.
- 1:17:43I don't care.
- 1:17:44Bad wigs and all.
- 1:17:45I.
- 1:17:46What sold that movie for me was the fact that 1.
- 1:17:50This was at Eddie Murphy's height of his career.
- 1:17:552.
- 1:17:56They said Angela Bassett, and I said, I sold.
- 1:17:59I'm like.
- 1:18:04For a man.
- 1:18:04And this was a.
- 1:18:05Correct me if I'm wrong.
- 1:18:06Vampire in Brooklyn was the first movie that Eddie had multiple roles, right?
- 1:18:10Yeah.
- 1:18:13No, no, because he had done that in coming to America.
- 1:18:15Okay, So I got that back.
- 1:18:16Okay, I got that.
- 1:18:17Back to America was the first one.
- 1:18:19No, but the reason why I bring that up is because that, to me, again, a different vampire movie.
- 1:18:25But you saw.
- 1:18:28You really saw a different.
- 1:18:30It's not horror.
- 1:18:31It's a.
- 1:18:31It's horror, but it's funny.
- 1:18:33But it's not cheesy.
- 1:18:34Like, it wasn't as cheesy as.
- 1:18:36Yes, it's good.
- 1:18:38Yeah.
- 1:18:38And what he did.
- 1:18:41Evil assail the.
- 1:18:45Entire thing to the entire church.
- 1:18:47It like looks.
- 1:18:48And they.
- 1:18:49And they all agreed.
- 1:18:50That's the sad part.
- 1:18:52It's like, you know what?
- 1:18:53Evil ain't so bad.
- 1:18:55But.
- 1:18:55But that.
- 1:18:56That to me, outside of.
- 1:18:57Outside the story.
- 1:18:58Then Khadeem Hardison, which again, I completely forgot he was in the movie until the very end.
- 1:19:02But the level of.
- 1:19:06There's no other way to say this.
- 1:19:07The level of blackness in that movie, it was unparalleled.
- 1:19:12Yeah, right.
- 1:19:15He didn't have to be a poor vampire in order to do it.
- 1:19:18Right.
- 1:19:21His.
- 1:19:21His origin was Dracula's origin.
- 1:19:23You know what I mean?
- 1:19:24Like, yeah.
- 1:19:24Coming on the ship, the whole deal.
- 1:19:26I love.
- 1:19:28Yep.
- 1:19:28Yeah.
- 1:19:30Just coming from the.
- 1:19:31Just from coming from the Caribbean Islands.
- 1:19:33Just I'm like, do it again.
- 1:19:36That's all I'm saying.
- 1:19:38Do it again.
- 1:19:38Right, but that.
- 1:19:39But that just goes to show you, that's how well you can write a story where you don't have to give it a stereotype.
- 1:19:44You don't have to nerf us.
- 1:19:46I mean, in the words.
- 1:19:47In the words of the Reverend, you don't gotta nervous.
- 1:19:50You can literally give us the same.
- 1:19:52You can give us the same level of attention to where, like you said, a fluent vampire, very old in age, but he ate poor.
- 1:20:01He's well dressed, he's well spoken, he's charming.
- 1:20:05At the same time, the story can write and the story writes itself around him.
- 1:20:09Exactly, exactly.
- 1:20:14Navy.
- 1:20:17Classic.
- 1:20:18Straight up classic.
- 1:20:20That.
- 1:20:21Honestly, that is one of the few movies that the minute you sit down and start watching it, you don't get up, you don't pause it, you don't do any of that.
- 1:20:30And.
- 1:20:31And that speaks a lot for what the movie has done, really.
- 1:20:34Eddie's brolin there and with Lady Angela in there.
- 1:20:39I mean, it was incredible.
- 1:20:41It was fun.
- 1:20:42It's a fun movie.
- 1:20:43Genuinely.
- 1:20:44It didn't get the accolades I felt like it deserved because once again, everybody in the world has got to be critical.
- 1:20:50It's amazing when you don't do.
- 1:20:53You ain't a part of.
- 1:20:54And you won't have.
- 1:20:55But you want to be the most critical person in the world for no reason, but you don't contribute to it.
- 1:21:02It.
- 1:21:03Shut up.
- 1:21:04Say it again.
- 1:21:05Right.
- 1:21:06I'm just saying, don't forget your boy John Witherspoon acting a fool in there too, man.
- 1:21:22Great.
- 1:21:24It's them being at the shipping dock and the cops come up with the German shepherd and Max Maximilian is like.
- 1:21:31He Just kind of waved his hand and a crowd of people, and they literally watch a German shepherd launch in a buffer smoke and landing, like.
- 1:21:40And nobody's.
- 1:21:41Nobody's questioning anything.
- 1:21:44Nobody's saying a word.
- 1:21:45They're looking around like, what just happened?
- 1:21:47But, like, nobody seems to be out of sorts at all.
- 1:21:51No, not a flinch.
- 1:21:54It's not a flinch.
- 1:21:55Evil is good.
- 1:21:56Thanks, Safari.
- 1:21:57That's gonna be unstuck in my head, and I'll be reciting that whole thing.
- 1:22:02Eva is good.
- 1:22:07Eva is good.
- 1:22:11Here is one that I don't think a lot of people know about.
- 1:22:17Black's Night.
- 1:22:18Oh, yeah.
- 1:22:21Yes.
- 1:22:22Oh, my gosh.
- 1:22:23That is an undiscovered, super underrated.
- 1:22:25Yes.
- 1:22:26I'm so glad I'm amongst people who have watched this.
- 1:22:29This is so awesome.
- 1:22:32Undiscovered.
- 1:22:33My goodness.
- 1:22:34Right?
- 1:22:34The minute I heard vampires, black slayers, and Keith David, I said, oh, this is.
- 1:22:42Bro.
- 1:22:42This is gonna be interesting.
- 1:22:43Right?
- 1:22:45Mr.
- 1:22:45Silver throw himself, right?
- 1:22:47New Orleans.
- 1:22:49I'm sorry.
- 1:22:50Every time he talked, I kept hearing the Shadow man from the Princess and the Frog.
- 1:22:52I ain't gonna lie.
- 1:22:54New Orleans.
- 1:22:55And then they.
- 1:22:56And even going down to the point where he.
- 1:22:58Where he's.
- 1:22:59Where Keith David's character is telling the story of.
- 1:23:02Oh, yeah, we can walk during the daylight because of the melanin in our skin.
- 1:23:05Right?
- 1:23:07I'm like, oh, man.
- 1:23:12And then after all that, that last scene, I ain't gonna lie.
- 1:23:15Like, I was in it.
- 1:23:16And then that last thing happened.
- 1:23:17I was like, what the.
- 1:23:18Oh, God damn it.
- 1:23:19Yeah.
- 1:23:23This brings you right back.
- 1:23:24It's like, oh, y'.
- 1:23:25All.
- 1:23:25Forget y'.
- 1:23:25All.
- 1:23:25Y' all think y' all getting happy ended.
- 1:23:27Right, right, right, right.
- 1:23:30Underrated.
- 1:23:33Yeah.
- 1:23:34I think it's still on Amazon right now.
- 1:23:36Yes, it is.
- 1:23:37For free, if I'm not mistaken.
- 1:23:41Yeah, yeah.
- 1:23:41Oh, Amazon needs Amazon.
- 1:23:43Would love to welcome us back the same way Target would.
- 1:23:45That's a whole other story.
- 1:23:46Right, Right.
- 1:23:48Y' all still watching 2B?
- 1:23:49You need to be smacked.
- 1:23:50That's all I got.
- 1:23:51Kind of say, for real.
- 1:23:52Oh, man.
- 1:23:54They lure you in with some classics.
- 1:23:56That's for sure.
- 1:23:56They got the cartoons and, too, man.
- 1:24:01I'll go to YouTube first before I.
- 1:24:03Go to T.
- 1:24:04They lure you in with classics you like.
- 1:24:07Oh, sucked.
- 1:24:08Oh, y.
- 1:24:10Right, right.
- 1:24:12Check out Internet Archive, though.
- 1:24:13Internet Archive.
- 1:24:14You can get most of that stuff and downloaded, because I got a ton of them now.
- 1:24:19Oh, yeah.
- 1:24:20That's how.
- 1:24:20That's how I found my Samurai.
- 1:24:22Samurai Troopers, man.
- 1:24:23Right.
- 1:24:23Same.
- 1:24:26I get a block of Toonami for four hours.
- 1:24:29And all I gotta do is just sit there and just watch four hours in a video.
- 1:24:35So here's.
- 1:24:37I know I don't hear people talk about Jamie Foxx and Day Shift.
- 1:24:41Underrated.
- 1:24:43Yeah.
- 1:24:43I like Day Shift so much, but I think that they screwed up on the lore aspect.
- 1:24:49Like this.
- 1:24:49No, sorry.
- 1:24:50The.
- 1:24:50Like the last third.
- 1:24:51Right?
- 1:24:52Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:24:53Two thirds of the movie were, like, good.
- 1:24:54And then you get to that last third where it's like this crazy Machiavellian plot that comes out of nowhere that's about real estate with the white chick.
- 1:25:01And I was like.
- 1:25:05Is it.
- 1:25:05I'm like, is this the plot from the original Superman?
- 1:25:08What is going on?
- 1:25:11It's when you have.
- 1:25:12It's when you have.
- 1:25:13Folks, again with Day Shift, how it started.
- 1:25:16Awesome.
- 1:25:17You again.
- 1:25:18You're telling a different vampire story.
- 1:25:21It's like you.
- 1:25:21You felt like you need to add a little extra at the end.
- 1:25:23You didn't need to add extra at the end.
- 1:25:25Just stick with.
- 1:25:26Just stick with what brought us to the dance.
- 1:25:28That was.
- 1:25:29Right, right?
- 1:25:30Can we talk about character was dope.
- 1:25:32Jamie's character, how they was throwing them vampires against the wall and all them contortionists and all that.
- 1:25:37Yeah.
- 1:25:39And even the lore of, like, hey, we got slayers and we got watchers and we got zombies.
- 1:25:44We got all this stuff happening.
- 1:25:48You had a Men in Black style conglomerate.
- 1:25:51Yeah.
- 1:25:52This is your job.
- 1:25:54Yeah.
- 1:25:55Job.
- 1:25:56You get paid by snatching out teeth.
- 1:25:59This is like, you're a body hunter.
- 1:26:02The only gripe I had is, why did y' all name him Budget Jablonski?
- 1:26:08Why did you name a black man Bud Jablonski, bruh?
- 1:26:14You mean to tell me y' all didn't have enough time in that writer's room to come up with a better name than Bud Jablonski?
- 1:26:24Let's be honest.
- 1:26:24There.
- 1:26:25There was nobody in the writers room.
- 1:26:27Oh, you already know this.
- 1:26:30You know we're gonna be Jamie King again.
- 1:26:35Who say.
- 1:26:36Who auditioned for the role?
- 1:26:37Jamie Foxx, but the character's name is Bud Jablonski.
- 1:26:41How are we gonna fix that?
- 1:26:43I mean, you could give him anything else, but I'm like, dang.
- 1:26:46Even Black Dynamite had Afrocentric names.
- 1:26:49God dang.
- 1:26:50Right, Right.
- 1:26:53Oh, my God.
- 1:26:54There is another one.
- 1:26:57Vampire.
- 1:26:58There's vampires in the Bronx, yo.
- 1:27:01That was good, too.
- 1:27:02Yeah.
- 1:27:02Yeah, that's.
- 1:27:03That's another one.
- 1:27:04Did not say that one.
- 1:27:05Yeah, that's.
- 1:27:06That's another.
- 1:27:06I want to say is that one.
- 1:27:08I want to say.
- 1:27:08That's Is that Prime?
- 1:27:10That's Netflix.
- 1:27:11Okay.
- 1:27:11Netflix.
- 1:27:12Yeah, yeah, that one was good.
- 1:27:14That was.
- 1:27:14That was like Boonies meets meets fresh meets Vampires.
- 1:27:19You know what I mean?
- 1:27:20Yeah, yeah.
- 1:27:20It had the our elements to it, you know.
- 1:27:22Oh, wow.
- 1:27:24Here's another one.
- 1:27:25And she's not even in it long.
- 1:27:27And it's an older one.
- 1:27:28She's not even in it long.
- 1:27:30Grace Jones.
- 1:27:32Yes.
- 1:27:33Oh, my gosh, I remember that.
- 1:27:36It took me a while.
- 1:27:37Holy crap.
- 1:27:38Yo, I forgot.
- 1:27:39I forgot.
- 1:27:39She played a vampire and iconic with him.
- 1:27:42I totally forgot about vamp.
- 1:27:44I told y'.
- 1:27:45All.
- 1:27:46Like, we.
- 1:27:47It's like we've been around all this time.
- 1:27:49Yeah.
- 1:27:51So, yeah, that's one of them.
- 1:27:54Maybe name a vampire of black parent vampire film that kind of stands out for you.
- 1:28:08I said before and I say it again.
- 1:28:13Blackula, 1973.
- 1:28:20Yeah.
- 1:28:20That's the standard one.
- 1:28:23That movie did not.
- 1:28:24It wasn't cheesy.
- 1:28:26He wasn't made to be a comical character.
- 1:28:29He was legit, of royal blood and happened to come over here on a mission.
- 1:28:35And I told.
- 1:28:36I'm telling y'.
- 1:28:36All, that was.
- 1:28:37Yeah, you, you.
- 1:28:38It was the 70s.
- 1:28:39Yeah.
- 1:28:39You had the stuff that would now make most people cringe, but it was part of the story and he was taken seriously as a character.
- 1:28:46Right.
- 1:28:48Loved it.
- 1:28:49I, I, again, one of those movies as a kid that I could watch over.
- 1:28:53It's like, okay, I see me in that character.
- 1:28:56I see me in a horror character.
- 1:29:00Nothing against anything else horror wise, but when was the last time we actually had a black horror character that was respected?
- 1:29:08There you go.
- 1:29:09I'll wait.
- 1:29:11You'll be a while.
- 1:29:12So, yeah.
- 1:29:14Do we have Candyman now?
- 1:29:15I feel like Candyman is up there now.
- 1:29:18Yes.
- 1:29:23As a matter of fact, he's the one that's just like, no, we know why he's doing what he's doing.
- 1:29:27So we don't mess with him.
- 1:29:29True.
- 1:29:31Candyman was only old Candyman was only scary if you mess with him.
- 1:29:35Yeah.
- 1:29:36Right.
- 1:29:36Outside of that.
- 1:29:37Right.
- 1:29:39What we learned from the first movie, don't go.
- 1:29:41And don't go saying his name three times.
- 1:29:43Don't go.
- 1:29:44Don't go messing this man.
- 1:29:45He won't mess with you.
- 1:29:47Don't summon him.
- 1:29:48You ain't got no issues.
- 1:29:49Right.
- 1:29:51Oh, that's just such and such.
- 1:29:52We don't.
- 1:29:53We don't mess with.
- 1:29:54It's like that one, cuz when they come to the cookout.
- 1:29:55Yeah.
- 1:29:56We don't mess with him.
- 1:29:57It's like.
- 1:29:57It's like seeing a Ouija board A Ouija board at a party.
- 1:30:00Let's go talk to the dead.
- 1:30:02Let's not.
- 1:30:02No.
- 1:30:03How about now?
- 1:30:04I'm out, right?
- 1:30:06Right.
- 1:30:07It's like going camping in the middle of the woods.
- 1:30:09No, we have.
- 1:30:09Have civilization.
- 1:30:10Why do I need to go out and go the woods?
- 1:30:11What am I proving?
- 1:30:14No.
- 1:30:17Brian, what's a black vampire or show, film or character that kind of stands out for you?
- 1:30:23I mean, I'm taking the easy way, but I loved it so much and I watched it so many times that I gotta say sinners, man.
- 1:30:31Yes, sir.
- 1:30:31Just yes, sir.
- 1:30:32The way it treated every piece of itself, right?
- 1:30:37In terms of how it treated, how it.
- 1:30:38How it talked about music, how it talked about religion, Christianity and other.
- 1:30:43How it talked about black culture, how it talked about vampires, how it talked.
- 1:30:47Just.
- 1:30:47Every piece of that movie was outstanding.
- 1:30:52And I'm gonna say it, and I don't care.
- 1:30:56Haley Stanfield can go on that list of, like, if I got turned and she was in the room, I don't want nobody looking at me crazy.
- 1:31:03Now, I'm not saying I'm running after her or nothing, but what I am saying is if I got bit, don't look like.
- 1:31:07How did you get bit, Brian?
- 1:31:11Like, look, bro, come on, man.
- 1:31:13She was on me and she was slobbering.
- 1:31:14What.
- 1:31:15What did you think I was.
- 1:31:16Was gonna do?
- 1:31:17Although.
- 1:31:17Although I ain't gonna lie in the middle of that scene.
- 1:31:19Honey, you drooling, right?
- 1:31:23It was nasty.
- 1:31:25I was like, bro, you didn't.
- 1:31:29It's that meme and that woman who makes that face, like.
- 1:31:40But you got a point about the.
- 1:31:41About centers.
- 1:31:42It's just like from.
- 1:31:44From the music to the setup to literally.
- 1:31:47I mean, you throw humor.
- 1:31:48You throw humor in every.
- 1:31:50In.
- 1:31:50In bits and pieces, but, man, there was so many bits of truth and story being wove in.
- 1:31:57It was.
- 1:31:58It was really.
- 1:31:58It was really a love letter to Lovecraft country.
- 1:32:00Because Lovecraft, same thing.
- 1:32:03They woven a little bit of truth, but you got humor in action, things of that nature.
- 1:32:07And again, what.
- 1:32:08The same way with the shoot, I'm losing words.
- 1:32:14It's pretty much telling the story of how, again, towns in Mississippi, you had this side, you had this side, and going from there.
- 1:32:23So.
- 1:32:23No, I know.
- 1:32:24I completely agree.
- 1:32:25Centers is one of those movies that's just.
- 1:32:27I mean, Mr.
- 1:32:28Coulter, I mean, man, knocked out the park and then some.
- 1:32:31I mean, you could play that every Halloween.
- 1:32:33It still will have a packed house.
- 1:32:38That would be Jamie Lawson and she played Pearl.
- 1:32:41Pearly.
- 1:32:42Yeah.
- 1:32:42And I also think that how it dealt with.
- 1:32:46How it dealt with African spirituality.
- 1:32:49And again, this is not like.
- 1:32:50It's not necessarily an emerging thing, but I think it's more.
- 1:32:52Getting more media attention now, how it dealt with that.
- 1:32:55And not in a way to say that it's immediately evil and it's the bad thing and it's the wrong thing.
- 1:32:59Right.
- 1:33:00I think that just taking that and, and giving that the care that it deserves.
- 1:33:04Yeah.
- 1:33:05Whether or not you agree, whether or not you believe whatever, that's.
- 1:33:08That's not of import.
- 1:33:09I think just dealing with it in a different fashion and not automatically making something that's black taboo was.
- 1:33:17Was amazing.
- 1:33:18Right, Right.
- 1:33:19I think that was just.
- 1:33:20Agree.
- 1:33:21Yeah.
- 1:33:21I want to stay here with sinners for a second.
- 1:33:23Because if.
- 1:33:24If Blackula set the standard, sinners raised the bar.
- 1:33:29Yeah, yeah.
- 1:33:31Yes.
- 1:33:31And that's exactly like Blackula set the standard.
- 1:33:35Sinners raise the bar on.
- 1:33:39On culture, on music, on mythos, on representation.
- 1:33:46It went above and beyond.
- 1:33:49And when you.
- 1:33:50It's literally.
- 1:33:51It's one of my favorite horror films to literally watch now because I'm like, this is so much better for so many reasons.
- 1:34:04But it was really.
- 1:34:05But it was such a.
- 1:34:06It was a.
- 1:34:07It was a layered story, but at the same time, it was a simple story.
- 1:34:10If you really think about it.
- 1:34:11It was layered, but it was simple.
- 1:34:13But the same time you had.
- 1:34:15You had the music aspect where it's like, yeah, the blues came from us.
- 1:34:20The blues came the blues.
- 1:34:21I mean, from those, from those steel pine guitars, which a lot of people like.
- 1:34:26Oh, well, that's the reason why.
- 1:34:27Yes, he tells the story.
- 1:34:29I mean, it's, it's.
- 1:34:30It's.
- 1:34:30Again, everybody's like, oh, so it's loosely based.
- 1:34:32No, it's not loosely based.
- 1:34:33Off.
- 1:34:35People love using loosely based.
- 1:34:37I know they always say that, but I'm like, if you believe the crossroads story, that's up to you.
- 1:34:41He never confirmed it.
- 1:34:43Never confirmed it.
- 1:34:44Not the crossroads of the crossroads story.
- 1:34:46But the fact that you sat there and you gave an aspect to it at the same time.
- 1:34:53Oh, the.
- 1:34:53The prison scene is what got me.
- 1:34:55Where the Delro Lindo's character was.
- 1:34:58They were passing by the chain gang, and he sat there and said, y' all keep your heads high.
- 1:35:02Y' all keep y' all chest high.
- 1:35:04Don't let that get you down.
- 1:35:05And then the whole, you know, that story he gives.
- 1:35:08Which found.
- 1:35:09Which we found out later was ad libbed.
- 1:35:11Yeah.
- 1:35:11Ad lib, yes.
- 1:35:12Oh, and I'm like, oh, we acting, acting out here.
- 1:35:15Give it to me, letting that natural talent come out, you're not trying to keep it just stringent to the script and keep it strictly to the.
- 1:35:24The dialogue.
- 1:35:25No, some of the best moments in movies have not been scripted.
- 1:35:30Right.
- 1:35:30And most people swear up and down they weren't scripted.
- 1:35:32Scripted.
- 1:35:34But at the same time, though, between Delroy Lindo's character and Michael B.
- 1:35:39Jordan, I'll give that man credit for.
- 1:35:41For literally showing two sides because the way he.
- 1:35:46The way he played that role, I will give him that.
- 1:35:48And also to.
- 1:35:50I forgot her name.
- 1:35:51That freaking fast.
- 1:35:54Damn.
- 1:35:55What's.
- 1:35:55What is her name?
- 1:35:56The leading lady at the time.
- 1:35:57Because they showed.
- 1:35:59You did not show.
- 1:36:01Yeah, thank you.
- 1:36:02They did not show.
- 1:36:03And my apologies, ma'.
- 1:36:05Am, I did not mean to forget your name because you definitely were not forgettable in the movie, but you.
- 1:36:10You showed a.
- 1:36:13A natural full figured woman and let her lead as you should not find as hell.
- 1:36:22Yes, she looks good in Lovecraft country.
- 1:36:25And then they put her in.
- 1:36:26In this movie.
- 1:36:27Yeah.
- 1:36:30Beautiful.
- 1:36:30I mean, it was.
- 1:36:31And I still mad about cornbread because ain't.
- 1:36:34Ain't no way there's a reason take.
- 1:36:35That long to take a piss.
- 1:36:36I'm sorry.
- 1:36:37No, I'm sorry.
- 1:36:39I'm not.
- 1:36:40You.
- 1:36:40You in Mississippi.
- 1:36:42Mississippi.
- 1:36:43In the dark in the woods, and you go, how far away from the building?
- 1:36:47You could have went right around the corner out of the.
- 1:36:50Out of.
- 1:36:51Out of Ey shot.
- 1:36:52You could have went behind by the board.
- 1:36:54Right.
- 1:36:54You didn't have to go deep in no woods for anything.
- 1:36:59Grab a bucket and go back inside somewhere, man.
- 1:37:01Keep your ass.
- 1:37:02He's gonna get caught up anyway.
- 1:37:04Like, let's be real.
- 1:37:07The moment he stepped foot outside, it was a rap.
- 1:37:09I was like, you know what?
- 1:37:10I was so mad about that.
- 1:37:11Like, bro, you the biggest thing out there.
- 1:37:14You just because you're the biggest thing out there just means you're just a bigger target.
- 1:37:18Even Delroy Lindo's character, who was drunk, Trunk was like, he went, he's been gone too long.
- 1:37:26This ain't.
- 1:37:27I ain't even supposed to be watching the door right now.
- 1:37:30And then all you.
- 1:37:30Then you hear one whisper, he's like, I'd have been like, nope.
- 1:37:35And I was just like.
- 1:37:36I'm sitting there like, I'm like, dude, you stopped midstream.
- 1:37:39You just.
- 1:37:42Those kiddies have been like, nope, let's go.
- 1:37:47What I loved about sinners is the fact that they kept.
- 1:37:50Left the element of horror without focusing on gore.
- 1:37:55How many times we've seen movies, they Use the whole Gore device because they want to keep your attention because the story is so weak, you can't keep anyone, you know, invested.
- 1:38:07Right.
- 1:38:08Nah.
- 1:38:08We gonna do this right?
- 1:38:10Yeah.
- 1:38:10There'll be a little bit of violence, somebody, some blood.
- 1:38:12It's a little bit of gore.
- 1:38:14But that's not what you should be focusing on.
- 1:38:16Focus on these characters and how they got here.
- 1:38:19Right.
- 1:38:19Why they got here.
- 1:38:20And all the lore and the storytelling and the character development.
- 1:38:24That is what made this such a beautiful masterpiece to me also.
- 1:38:30Yes.
- 1:38:30Give me the payoff of killing a bunch of Klansmen at the end.
- 1:38:36Every single time.
- 1:38:39Three times in the theater.
- 1:38:40Three times in theater.
- 1:38:42Yo.
- 1:38:42Applauded every single time.
- 1:38:44I'm right.
- 1:38:45Was he not at the ready where he sat there?
- 1:38:49This man said.
- 1:38:50This man said.
- 1:38:51Don't tell me here's.
- 1:38:52I knew that the truck must have played a major role because how did the white girl.
- 1:38:56Did you bring the truck?
- 1:38:57Of course we brought the trunk.
- 1:38:58Oh, Lord.
- 1:38:59Very soon.
- 1:39:01Right, Right.
- 1:39:02We don't need the truck.
- 1:39:04Let's calm down.
- 1:39:05Like, oh, yeah.
- 1:39:06Of course he brought the Trump.
- 1:39:08Okay.
- 1:39:08Yeah.
- 1:39:10Barry knew what the Trump was like, right?
- 1:39:13I got this.
- 1:39:19I appreciate how the movie ended.
- 1:39:20I really appreciated how they.
- 1:39:22They brought that story to the clothes that it came to.
- 1:39:25Because how many times we've seen movies where there has to be a cliffhanger.
- 1:39:29Oh, what happened to so and so?
- 1:39:31And there's no resolution or the resolution they have is so weak.
- 1:39:35Nobody wants to revisit this.
- 1:39:37Right?
- 1:39:37But they said, here is class.
- 1:39:40Here is a story that comes to an end beautifully.
- 1:39:46We all.
- 1:39:47We all clap when the KKK got God.
- 1:39:49Right?
- 1:39:49We all clap every moment of it.
- 1:39:51Every.
- 1:39:52And then when the last one he thought he just let me go and he shot him a bunch of times.
- 1:39:57Yeah, do that.
- 1:39:58But he kept his word.
- 1:39:59I mean, hey, Smoke kept his word.
- 1:40:02Come back exactly.
- 1:40:04Right, right, right.
- 1:40:05Malaika, stop that, man.
- 1:40:07Stop it.
- 1:40:08Stop it, bro.
- 1:40:10That part on that button, that's the first thing I said.
- 1:40:12Wrong audience.
- 1:40:13These joker still don't know where that button is.
- 1:40:15So don't.
- 1:40:15No, no, we, we.
- 1:40:17I blame Stack for that.
- 1:40:18Stack was questionable as all get out.
- 1:40:19Just like.
- 1:40:22That was a very cousin moment.
- 1:40:23He was just like, listen, he heard he fight.
- 1:40:31But no, but I.
- 1:40:32But I will also say this to the.
- 1:40:35To the guy again, again.
- 1:40:37Remick.
- 1:40:38There we go.
- 1:40:38Couldn't think of his name.
- 1:40:40Jack o'.
- 1:40:40Connell.
- 1:40:41Who played him.
- 1:40:41Yes, man.
- 1:40:43You literally.
- 1:40:44I love the fact that a lot of people are missing where he again.
- 1:40:48The realism where again, you saw, uh, Miles, Kevin's character was praying at the end and he was.
- 1:40:53He was basically reciting them line for line.
- 1:40:55He says.
- 1:40:57And I love that part where he goes, yeah, I used to say that too, because those same words were taught to me when they still give me comfort when they came for me too.
- 1:41:04And I love how a lot of people want to say.
- 1:41:06When I was in the movie theaters, watch it.
- 1:41:08You heard this collective.
- 1:41:10No, they didn't.
- 1:41:11I said, yeah, right.
- 1:41:13I just, I just said, welcome to your history lesson.
- 1:41:16You didn't think you're gonna get one woman didn't worry.
- 1:41:21I just, I like I said sitters you can.
- 1:41:23Centers is one of those.
- 1:41:24It's.
- 1:41:25It's.
- 1:41:25It's really one of those mainstays that are just.
- 1:41:28Along with Blackula, along with Vampire in Brooklyn, along with Queen of the Dam.
- 1:41:34It's.
- 1:41:35I just love the fact that we actually now have another.
- 1:41:40Another movie that is literally for us in a genre where there's not a lot of our movies there.
- 1:41:51That's what I love about that.
- 1:41:53Right.
- 1:41:53And it's an undeniable one too.
- 1:41:54It's not a B movie.
- 1:41:56It's not a.
- 1:41:56Where they can say it's an Also ran like this.
- 1:41:59No, no.
- 1:41:59It is an epic film.
- 1:42:02And there's nothing you can say otherwise.
- 1:42:05That part.
- 1:42:06This is literally one of these films where this is very rare for like people who are film goers or into cinema.
- 1:42:13This is one of those films.
- 1:42:15Sinners is one of those films where you don't want a sequel that you don't that Beginning, middle, tell this story.
- 1:42:26Leave it open ended.
- 1:42:27I don't care, but leave it here.
- 1:42:31Yeah.
- 1:42:31You don't have to add.
- 1:42:33You can let your mind run, of course, but.
- 1:42:36But you don't want.
- 1:42:38But what.
- 1:42:39And someone trying to stare and say, well, they should write a sequel.
- 1:42:42Where you gonna go?
- 1:42:43Because again, we know two people survived.
- 1:42:47We also know that Smoke and Stack had an agreement about their cousin.
- 1:42:53Like, look, because we.
- 1:42:54Look, I'll be honest.
- 1:42:55Stack wasn't supposed to be here and Stack wasn't supposed to be here unless he sat there and told Smoke, like, look, I'm not taking you out.
- 1:43:03You will watch him for the rest of your days.
- 1:43:06Cool.
- 1:43:07Right?
- 1:43:07What else do you need?
- 1:43:08Right?
- 1:43:10At the same time, it's like it doesn't.
- 1:43:11It's like it doesn't need to.
- 1:43:13It doesn't need the.
- 1:43:14It doesn't need the extra.
- 1:43:15Like some movies just need to be a one shot.
- 1:43:19Need to be a One shot and be done with it.
- 1:43:21You don't need.
- 1:43:21Because if you go.
- 1:43:22If you try to go back and do a Sinners too, you kind of crap on the first one.
- 1:43:28Because where do you go.
- 1:43:29Because where do you go with a sequel like that anyway?
- 1:43:31There's not.
- 1:43:32There's no room.
- 1:43:32It's like saying, hey, you know, it's like LeBron James going back for another ring, sir.
- 1:43:37You've accomplished what you got to do.
- 1:43:39Bow out gracefully.
- 1:43:41Right, right, right.
- 1:43:44Sorry about your LeBron fans.
- 1:43:45No, no, no, it's true.
- 1:43:49This.
- 1:43:49This movie just creates those types of conversations that it's necessary because when you are really ingrained in the culture, when you're born of the culture and you see things from sharecroppers and just the stuff.
- 1:44:05I'm like, man, it's taking place in the 1930s, and you're like.
- 1:44:09But you see it, you feel it.
- 1:44:14That part.
- 1:44:15You understand it.
- 1:44:18The conversations that's being had, the elements that are being shown, the way this thing has been shot, the music element.
- 1:44:25I'm like, this dude didn't miss.
- 1:44:33I lied to you.
- 1:44:35Dang.
- 1:44:36Right, Right.
- 1:44:37Kill me Cornbread.
- 1:44:38Cornbread was gated, though, when.
- 1:44:40When he got that dance going.
- 1:44:43I was trip on the fact just.
- 1:44:45And to hear.
- 1:44:46And to hear a bluegrass guitar like that, that's.
- 1:44:49There's a hit.
- 1:44:50There's a history behind that, too.
- 1:44:51I love that.
- 1:44:52He.
- 1:44:53He did put a spotlight on that.
- 1:44:54That type of.
- 1:44:55That type of music with that type of guitar and that sound.
- 1:44:58And the fact that our people have such a rich history to that.
- 1:45:04I again, work.
- 1:45:07Tied it together, but I'm trying to think there's.
- 1:45:13There's Ganja and Hess is another vampire film.
- 1:45:16Film.
- 1:45:16Yep.
- 1:45:17Oh, I've never seen that.
- 1:45:18You never heard of that 70s.
- 1:45:21That's a 70s horror film.
- 1:45:23Black horror film.
- 1:45:25Black Doctor Gets.
- 1:45:27Goes to an island, and they have rituals going there in terms of.
- 1:45:32He gets.
- 1:45:33He becomes a vampire through a spear.
- 1:45:35Yep, Spear.
- 1:45:37He was pumped with a spear.
- 1:45:38And he become.
- 1:45:38He becomes vampiric.
- 1:45:41They actually did.
- 1:45:43I think it was.
- 1:45:44Spike Lee did a remake.
- 1:45:47I'm trying to.
- 1:45:48I cannot think of the name of it, but Spike Lee did something like that.
- 1:45:52Just.
- 1:45:52Just maybe just.
- 1:45:56That's what it is.
- 1:45:57Yeah.
- 1:45:58Yeah.
- 1:45:592014.
- 1:45:59Sweet blood Jesus.
- 1:46:00Yeah.
- 1:46:01I had to think about.
- 1:46:01I had to think about that one for a second.
- 1:46:03Yeah, but that's what that is.
- 1:46:05There's.
- 1:46:05There.
- 1:46:05There's quite a few.
- 1:46:08The latest interview with the vampire television series.
- 1:46:13Oh, that guy's name.
- 1:46:14What's his face.
- 1:46:16Who's the actor that played Lestat?
- 1:46:20I know it's.
- 1:46:21It's a.
- 1:46:22It's a unique name.
- 1:46:23I apologize.
- 1:46:24I apologize.
- 1:46:24I don't want to destroy his name.
- 1:46:28Let me see if I can find it, because I know I was just.
- 1:46:30Oh, wait, Louis Dupont Dulac.
- 1:46:33That's who it is.
- 1:46:35That's who it is.
- 1:46:36So that's the character or character and you know, which I'm finishing off the first season and I'm like, yo, this is good.
- 1:46:45But.
- 1:46:46But yeah, that was, that was when he was in.
- 1:46:48Yeah, they're set up in New Orleans with his.
- 1:46:50So that's right around a lot of, A lot of upper class society, him trying to come back.
- 1:46:56And, and it.
- 1:46:57Yeah, it's.
- 1:46:58I was watching that.
- 1:46:59I got caught up until I didn't finish.
- 1:47:01But.
- 1:47:01But again, like you said, it's, It's.
- 1:47:03It's different, but at the same time, you can tell, like, like we've been saying, a lot of care has been taken into each of these, into each of these movies and television shows.
- 1:47:13And you can tell because we don't want to show off, you know, and again, to not speak, to pick it back off.
- 1:47:19What to pick up with.
- 1:47:20Raven said what the Reverend said we don't want gore.
- 1:47:23There's no need for gore.
- 1:47:24Vampires precisely for gore.
- 1:47:26And vampire.
- 1:47:26Right.
- 1:47:29It's more mind seducing that it is.
- 1:47:35Yeah.
- 1:47:35Psychological.
- 1:47:36Thank you.
- 1:47:36So, you know, we don't need the whole, you know, hey, gets taken off or flaws decapitate somebody.
- 1:47:41We.
- 1:47:41We don't need that.
- 1:47:42I mean, it worked in Castlevania.
- 1:47:44That's fine.
- 1:47:45But that's an anime.
- 1:47:46It's not movie.
- 1:47:48But no, it's just like.
- 1:47:49Oh, like again, in Castlevania, we had a van.
- 1:47:52We had a.
- 1:47:52We had a female vampire, which, again, she wasn't overall.
- 1:47:58Overall menacing, but if you pushed her.
- 1:48:02Oh, yeah, you got that point.
- 1:48:04But again, it's just.
- 1:48:05I'm just saying this as.
- 1:48:06It's just the approach they've taken to how black vampires in movies and television and anime, how they're presented and they're always presented.
- 1:48:16And I love this.
- 1:48:17I have yet to still find one where I didn't like it.
- 1:48:19You can tell that it's written with care because they're presented with style, they're present with flair, poise, mannerisms.
- 1:48:28At the same time, there's that underlying threat of, if you push me, I will end you.
- 1:48:35Oh, yeah.
- 1:48:36But sidebar.
- 1:48:37I needed more Mr.
- 1:48:38Trick from Buffy the Vampire Empire.
- 1:48:41Slayer.
- 1:48:44I'm Just saying.
- 1:48:45I mean, I'm like, you know, I'm liking his vibe, but y' all playing it right now.
- 1:48:49Y' all nerfing him a little bit.
- 1:48:51But look who the writer was.
- 1:48:52Exactly.
- 1:48:57To figure it out.
- 1:48:57But, like, you played us with Kendra, then you turn around with Mr.
- 1:49:01Trick, you know, like, yeah, look, it's.
- 1:49:03No worse than Sterling K.
- 1:49:04Brown and Supernatural, where he was a hunter and he got turned.
- 1:49:07Yes.
- 1:49:08Yeah, yeah.
- 1:49:09People forget he was in Supernatural.
- 1:49:13He was a rival hunter that got turned and he adapted quite quickly, actually.
- 1:49:21I was gonna say, can we count Bones?
- 1:49:22Although because I'm just a Bianca Lawson fan.
- 1:49:25So can we count Bones?
- 1:49:26Even though Snoop Dogg's acting was overly.
- 1:49:28Horrible.
- 1:49:30Wasn'T he, like a deep.
- 1:49:31Was he a.
- 1:49:32Was he a vampire?
- 1:49:34He was a resurrected.
- 1:49:35He was a gangster.
- 1:49:36He was a resurrected gangster, but he wasn't.
- 1:49:38He wasn't.
- 1:49:39It was like a.
- 1:49:39A.
- 1:49:40More like a demon spirit, but he wasn't a vampire.
- 1:49:44Yeah.
- 1:49:44Although he had fangs for no reason.
- 1:49:46On the same end.
- 1:49:47I'll count Bianca Lawson, because she's Bianca Lawson.
- 1:49:50So I'm with you.
- 1:49:52I just.
- 1:49:52I just wanted the technicality.
- 1:49:53I just wanted to know.
- 1:49:55But I'm with you.
- 1:49:56Let's count her.
- 1:49:59She is actually a vampire because she.
- 1:50:00Ain'T aged at all.
- 1:50:02Yeah, they said, oh, yeah.
- 1:50:03She was like.
- 1:50:04It was like, oh, yeah.
- 1:50:05She was like 20.
- 1:50:05And.
- 1:50:10Between her.
- 1:50:11Angela Bassett and there was another one.
- 1:50:15Angela Bassett played a vampire in the season of America Horror Story Hotel.
- 1:50:21I literally was like, makes sense.
- 1:50:23I see it.
- 1:50:24It's fine.
- 1:50:26No disrespect to the Queen Mother, but, ma', am, you have a regiment.
- 1:50:30That's another one.
- 1:50:31Don't ask me no that's another one.
- 1:50:33Don't ask me no questions when you see me turn don't ask me no.
- 1:50:35Don'T ask me Will Smith doing like this.
- 1:50:42Right?
- 1:50:42How could you?
- 1:50:43How could you let this happen?
- 1:50:45I'm just saying.
- 1:50:47Right, right.
- 1:50:48But no, but, yeah.
- 1:50:50It's just.
- 1:50:50It's.
- 1:50:51If you really think about it, it's just these.
- 1:50:53Especially around the horror side, we are getting a lot more movies, not just vampire.
- 1:50:58I mean, not just, you know, vampire in general, but, I mean, look at.
- 1:51:02Look at us.
- 1:51:03Or look at.
- 1:51:04Get out.
- 1:51:05Or look at.
- 1:51:06I haven't seen him yet.
- 1:51:07I want to see him.
- 1:51:08I don't know if him is more psychological than anything else, but it looks like it.
- 1:51:12Yeah, I'm still.
- 1:51:12Yeah.
- 1:51:14But you can tell that the horror aspect is being expanded on, and I love that it's being Expanded on.
- 1:51:22And it's not just your.
- 1:51:23It's not just your A to B.
- 1:51:25We summon him.
- 1:51:26We knocked this over.
- 1:51:27We broke this.
- 1:51:28We went to a place supposed to go to.
- 1:51:30It's.
- 1:51:31It's so different in how each of these stories are being shown that it.
- 1:51:35It's.
- 1:51:35It makes you want to go see it just off the narration alone.
- 1:51:40I agree.
- 1:51:41I remember when that US trailer dropped and it had the.
- 1:51:46Just the music.
- 1:51:47Yeah.
- 1:51:47That was the creepiest, you know, twist on.
- 1:51:51I got five on it.
- 1:51:52Like, again, I love that we.
- 1:51:55I love that our horror stories are being told like.
- 1:51:57Like us as well.
- 1:51:57Like, it's not like, oh, hey, don't go touch that Ouija board.
- 1:52:00And then somebody does.
- 1:52:01And then they summon a demon.
- 1:52:02Like, because black folks don't do that.
- 1:52:03Right?
- 1:52:04So they have to find new ways for us to be entrapped in these things that would make sense with our personalities, which I love that they're taking the time to do that.
- 1:52:12Right.
- 1:52:12Like, it makes sense, so it makes for better stories.
- 1:52:15Yeah.
- 1:52:15I want.
- 1:52:16I want anybody who's listening or watching right now.
- 1:52:19If you can find it, go back and watch Night of the Demon.
- 1:52:25Your boy broke out, right?
- 1:52:27This, like, Roger wasn't nothing to play with.
- 1:52:30Like, even if he said, my father's.
- 1:52:32They in the haunted house, this brother said, my father's a preacher.
- 1:52:36We don't do this.
- 1:52:39Roger, Roger, we need to get out.
- 1:52:42Roger showed exactly what you should do in a horror movie.
- 1:52:45And you notice that no demon can outrun him.
- 1:52:49My man dove through a plate glass window.
- 1:52:52He was climbing over a wall with his barbed wire.
- 1:52:55Little white girl was just like, it hurts.
- 1:52:57He was like, I'm leaving.
- 1:52:58I don't care.
- 1:52:59I'll heal.
- 1:53:00I'm leaving now.
- 1:53:03Right?
- 1:53:03I still, like, I still laugh at Roger.
- 1:53:05Where you going?
- 1:53:06You on your own.
- 1:53:11She's like, roger, you ain't going to get me.
- 1:53:13He just.
- 1:53:18That fits.
- 1:53:19Wow.
- 1:53:19That fits.
- 1:53:21Oh, man.
- 1:53:21Yeah.
- 1:53:22But whoever.
- 1:53:22Whoever got door.
- 1:53:23Whoever got do or die to sit there and say, hey, we want to take.
- 1:53:25I got five on it.
- 1:53:26And we want to put a horror spin on it.
- 1:53:28How did you convince them?
- 1:53:30That's right.
- 1:53:33I got a better one.
- 1:53:34How many times people look at the clock and it says, 11.
- 1:53:3611.
- 1:53:36And you stop, man.
- 1:53:41Look, like I said, we were out of town this weekend.
- 1:53:43I seen three logging trucks.
- 1:53:45Thank God they were on the opposite side of the free.
- 1:53:51And I just shook my.
- 1:53:52Every time just shook my head, yo, I'm done.
- 1:53:55Final destination made us so Final destination turned Us into better drivers.
- 1:53:59I'm just saying you won't go, you won't go nowhere near or behind a log truck since that movie came out.
- 1:54:04Right?
- 1:54:05Right.
- 1:54:05Now, you know what I thought about Death by Temptation.
- 1:54:08Only difference is she's more of a succubus, right?
- 1:54:11Yeah.
- 1:54:12But still, that was still a good movie.
- 1:54:14I think it was another Kaden Harson movie actually.
- 1:54:16It is.
- 1:54:16Yeah.
- 1:54:17That was like right during his fame.
- 1:54:20During.
- 1:54:20That was different.
- 1:54:21Different world.
- 1:54:22Different world, right?
- 1:54:23Yeah.
- 1:54:23So, Brian J.
- 1:54:26Lambert, brother, this has been great.
- 1:54:30It's been a blast.
- 1:54:31It's been fun, man.
- 1:54:33I appreciate y' all so much, man.
- 1:54:35I really do.
- 1:54:35I.
- 1:54:36I just love being able to commune with some like minded folks in general.
- 1:54:40But y' all are hilarious, man.
- 1:54:41And I just, you know, I appreciate y' all even just having me on here and talking about my comics and, and comics in general and, and let me rant my bull, you know what I mean?
- 1:54:50I appreciate it.
- 1:54:51Look, this is what we do here.
- 1:54:53We, we consider people family for one.
- 1:54:56Thank you for including us and joining up with Border Station for Air Force One.
- 1:55:01Yes.
- 1:55:02Grace, that's gonna be freaking fire.
- 1:55:08That's gonna be off the chain.
- 1:55:09For real.
- 1:55:10For real, bro.
- 1:55:11We are, we are, we are working.
- 1:55:12I can't wait till our next.
- 1:55:14We got some things happening in early.
- 1:55:17Do we have a minute to where I can give a little quick little sneak peek, please?
- 1:55:21So I can't show anything right now, but in early 2026 we are going to debut.
- 1:55:29Myself and Jason Reeves, we're debuting a project together.
- 1:55:32We are doing a trading card game.
- 1:55:34And imagine if you will, a world where Street Ball meets Pokemon.
- 1:55:40Oh, say less.
- 1:55:42I'm invested.
- 1:55:43So let's go again.
- 1:55:46Yeah, so again we're gonna have that.
- 1:55:48We're gonna start putting out some materials in November.
- 1:55:50We're gonna release it in, in February.
- 1:55:52And then that's gonna lead to everything else, man.
- 1:55:54That's going to lead to all the stuff that we see with our 2000 release of volume 2, 2026 release of volume 2 of Air Force Ones and some more animated material.
- 1:56:04And this time on the next set of animated material is actually going to be anime, I realize.
- 1:56:09And I, I've again, I've had people make the little jokes and stuff.
- 1:56:11The animation, the first animation we did is not anime inspired, art wise, art style wise.
- 1:56:16But again, that's just somebody, man.
- 1:56:18I really wanted to work with that animator.
- 1:56:20He was dope and he's still dope.
- 1:56:22But as we do our next set of animation we're already talking to Spoof Animation and a couple other studios.
- 1:56:28Nice.
- 1:56:29And we're going fully into the anime field.
- 1:56:32And 2026 is gonna be.
- 1:56:35It's gonna be something special.
- 1:56:37So again, Blur Blurd's Eye View first people to hear about our new project and our new trading card game.
- 1:56:43Paul, who's got next?
- 1:56:45Nice.
- 1:56:46And again, like I said, it's going to be Street Ball meets Pokemon.
- 1:56:49It's gonna be something like you've never seen it.
- 1:56:50It's gonna be dope.
- 1:56:51I'm invested.
- 1:56:53Right?
- 1:56:53Let's go.
- 1:56:54The minute you mentioned Pokemon now David's ear said present and accounted for games.
- 1:57:02I'm like, let's go.
- 1:57:04Okay, let's go.
- 1:57:06Oh man.
- 1:57:07Brian, tell everybody where they can find you.
- 1:57:10You can find us at Wingless Comics on everything social.
- 1:57:13Well, not on Twitter or X or whatever it's called these days.
- 1:57:19You can find us, right?
- 1:57:20You can find us on Instagram under Wingless Comics.
- 1:57:24You can find us on Facebook as a Wingless Comics.
- 1:57:25Can you?
- 1:57:26You can find us on Tick Tock as Wingless Comics.
- 1:57:28We are also online on our website direct@www.wingle.com you can get everything and all our information there.
- 1:57:37Again, much more to come.
- 1:57:38In 2026.
- 1:57:39You're going to see the release of her number two.
- 1:57:41You're going to see Avery number two.
- 1:57:42You're going to See volume two or Air Force Ones.
- 1:57:44You're going to see the trading card game, who's got next?
- 1:57:46And a few more surprises.
- 1:57:48We are coming out the gate hot in 2026.
- 1:57:51That is a promise.
- 1:57:54I'm here for it.
- 1:57:55I hear holsters being reloaded right now.
- 1:57:57Right.
- 1:57:58And in February you are gonna see how.
- 1:58:02How right and close to the mark you are, sir.
- 1:58:05Something special.
- 1:58:06I got a couple other special things.
- 1:58:08You know what, when those drop, please bring them by the ship.
- 1:58:12Gladly.
- 1:58:13Have you on, please.
- 1:58:14Thank you.
- 1:58:15Definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely.
- 1:58:17Gentlemen.
- 1:58:19Spartan talk to the people.
- 1:58:21Ah yes.
- 1:58:23Black underscore.
- 1:58:23Spartan615 is I usually can find me.
- 1:58:26Shows are still going on folks.
- 1:58:27We are covering everything crazy in the world.
- 1:58:30Especially when it comes to Taco and his regime.
- 1:58:34You know the man the high Castle.
- 1:58:35The man in high Castle discovered McDonald's.
- 1:58:37How the we got here every Wednesday at 7:30pm of course myself to Farai Joe.
- 1:58:41We do cover the news in the world of video games, anime, manga, radio, wrestling, you name it get bit every Friday, 8:30ish shows can be found where they're usually found on all aspects of the Internet.
- 1:58:53Still doing the streaming thing.
- 1:58:55Still trying to finish Silk song, but you know, being a dad, gotta make sure everybody's taken care of.
- 1:58:59So gaming.
- 1:59:00The gaming streams will pick back up on Saturday because why?
- 1:59:03I have exactly two weeks left before Ninja Gaiden 4 comes out and that's gonna pretty much encompass my life.
- 1:59:09So I didn't kind of need to get that and try to get one game knock out the way before I get the other one.
- 1:59:13So again, black underscore Spartan 615 on Twitch and on YouTube at the same time.
- 1:59:18Guys, the rules still do apply because Khan's still going on.
- 1:59:20Respect the cosplayer.
- 1:59:21Cosplay is not consent.
- 1:59:22Please treat me like human beings.
- 1:59:24Number two, wash your ass.
- 1:59:26We the.
- 1:59:27It's flu season.
- 1:59:28Flu season's around the corner.
- 1:59:30Clean clothes, please.
- 1:59:31Underwear.
- 1:59:31I know you're seeing this clean thing going through cons.
- 1:59:36That is not cute.
- 1:59:37Because they have to do this.
- 1:59:38Because.
- 1:59:38Because some of y' all really don't believe in soap, water, hygiene or good decisions.
- 1:59:43So please wash your ass.
- 1:59:45Clean clothes will be always welcome.
- 1:59:47And again, the last thing I have for myself, as I have for everybody else in a world that is cruel, that is kind, that is unkind.
- 1:59:53Be nice, be kind.
- 1:59:54Talk, share and discuss your fandoms.
- 1:59:57Don't be a dick and you won't get jumped.
- 2:00:02I love how it changes every week.
- 2:00:04There it is, baby.
- 2:00:05Montel, my guy.
- 2:00:06What's going on?
- 2:00:07Talking to the people.
- 2:00:09Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Blurs of all ages, good evening, good morning, good afternoon.
- 2:00:13It is I, Navy Montel, your frosty bearded blur.
- 2:00:15Corn here with the crew, with this Amazing Creator, Brian, Mr.
- 2:00:19Brian Lambert here doing his thing.
- 2:00:21Y' all gonna show this man love.
- 2:00:22Go support him.
- 2:00:23He is part of a cornucopia of culture and creation that cannot be denied.
- 2:00:29Please go show that support.
- 2:00:30If you want to know what I'm up to, I'm with this illustrious crew usually on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
- 2:00:35I'm also with Lady Mandalore.
- 2:00:37Room full of blurbs.
- 2:00:38Every Sunday at 7, we talk about independent comments.
- 2:00:40We bring on the character, the creators.
- 2:00:42We have a good time.
- 2:00:43We just all types of stuff and fun like that myself.
- 2:00:46Florida corn combos are back.
- 2:00:47I'm getting my kiss my guests lined up.
- 2:00:50Please come and show that love.
- 2:00:51I'm getting back on my random Instagram where I'll pop in because I got something to say.
- 2:00:55And now that I am on YouTube, I've been still on YouTube and be more active.
- 2:00:59Y' all in trouble Bible.
- 2:01:00Okay?
- 2:01:00So come on be a part of the conversation.
- 2:01:02And I stream on Sundays.
- 2:01:05I am currently going back to Diablo 3.
- 2:01:07Why?
- 2:01:07Because if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- 2:01:10And I'm using a lady barbarian and she is just running roughshod.
- 2:01:15We're gonna chat, we're gonna talk.
- 2:01:16We're gonna have all the funds.
- 2:01:18And I will say this before I.
- 2:01:20I'm passed on to the illustrious Captain.
- 2:01:24Find your safe space.
- 2:01:26In a world where chaos is starting to become the norm, which it shouldn't be.
- 2:01:31Find your safe space.
- 2:01:32Whether it's at home with someone close to you, a hobby, a reading, a book, going and sitting at the park, maybe taking a drive.
- 2:01:41Find your safe space because your mental health is your number one precious commodity that you give up to anyone or anything for any reason.
- 2:01:50Find your safe space, please.
- 2:01:53We need to keep y' all around.
- 2:01:54The Saints are going home.
- 2:01:56They don't need to be going home younger than 40 or 40 or 30.
- 2:02:00Okay.
- 2:02:01Find your safe space.
- 2:02:02If you need someone to talk to, find me.
- 2:02:05If you need to.
- 2:02:05I'll be there.
- 2:02:09Same here.
- 2:02:11You.
- 2:02:12If you are.
- 2:02:13If you haven't followed Blurred Station on Instagram, please do.
- 2:02:17Because this weekend, Saturday, as a matter of fact, we have our very first Fireside chat with a voice actor.
- 2:02:26The series will be called Unmuted.
- 2:02:28You'll have your answers, question or some of your questions answered.
- 2:02:31Talking about how to get into the voice industry, voice acting industry and things of the stuff.
- 2:02:36I believe that will be at 8 o', clock, 7 o' clock or 8.
- 2:02:38I think it's 8.
- 2:02:398 o'.
- 2:02:40Clock.
- 2:02:408 o'.
- 2:02:40Clock.
- 2:02:41Yes.
- 2:02:41So go to the Blur Blurs.
- 2:02:43Go to the Blurred Station Instagram page.
- 2:02:45Go check it out.
- 2:02:46Out Lady Mandalore will be the host.
- 2:02:49Yeah, some great stuff going on also.
- 2:02:53You can check us out Every Tuesday, Thursday, 8pm Eastern, YouTube, Twitch, and you can watch past episodes of Always Press Record Television through your Roku and Amazon Fire devices.
- 2:03:06Mouthful when you have a little congestion going on.
- 2:03:08But that's okay.
- 2:03:09I got my ginger and turmeric tea is doing this job right now.
- 2:03:13Now I'm just stuffy.
- 2:03:16Everything else is good.
- 2:03:17But other than that, thank you to our guest, Brian J.
- 2:03:21Lambert.
- 2:03:22This has been amazing.
- 2:03:23These are always fun to talk to, like creatives who are really doing their thing.
- 2:03:28So absolutely.
- 2:03:30Please come back.
- 2:03:31Come back to when you start talking about when.
- 2:03:34When 2026 ramps up because.
- 2:03:36Yeah, because.
- 2:03:37Because the people got an exclusive, right?
- 2:03:40We do exclusive.
- 2:03:41I always have one for y'.
- 2:03:42All.
- 2:03:46Appreciate you stopping through.
- 2:03:49Thank you to the crew.
- 2:03:53Thank you to everybody in the chats, man.
- 2:03:55Everybody's in the chats.
- 2:03:56Thank you.
- 2:03:57Thank you to B who all there made his donation.
- 2:04:00Thank you.
- 2:04:00I'll be sure to hit your donation.
- 2:04:02Be sure to hit that like subscribe that notification bell and YouTube channel.
- 2:04:06Be sure if you're watching on Twitch, Twitch, go over there again.
- 2:04:09We're not trying to hit millions, millions of streamers on Twitch because I, I don't have.
- 2:04:13I don't have streaming time right now.
- 2:04:16I don't have time.
- 2:04:17Facts.
- 2:04:18Right, right.
- 2:04:21I got.
- 2:04:21I got adult stuff to do.
- 2:04:23I hate it.
- 2:04:24But look at that lottery check clears.
- 2:04:27We got.
- 2:04:27We gotta do work, man.
- 2:04:30I got work.
- 2:04:32But tune in next Tuesday.
- 2:04:34We will be talking about some more nerdy stuff.
- 2:04:37We'll be doing some more horror stuff.
- 2:04:40We'll probably be talking about some other.
- 2:04:44I'm thinking about doing final Girls again.
- 2:04:46We got time.
- 2:04:47I gotta go back to the final final girls round two.
- 2:04:51So be sure to come back next Tuesday, 8pm Eastern.
- 2:04:56We will be here.
- 2:04:57Remember to educate yourself and others, entertain yourself and others, and most of all, encourage yourself and others.
- 2:05:02I'm Chris Fury with our guest, Brian J.
- 2:05:05Lambert over on this side.
- 2:05:07Yeah, sir.
- 2:05:09My guys, Baby Montel and Black Spartan.
- 2:05:14Check us out on all the socials.
- 2:05:16Show your support.
- 2:05:17And until then, we will see you guys next time.
- 2:05:21We're out.
- 2:05:23Bye.
- 2:05:30Snake, are you okay?
- 2:05:31Snake.
- 2:05:32Snake.
- 2:05:47Sam.
- 2:06:13Wa.