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Know the Enemy: Boston College · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Music. And welcome back to the Boundary
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  Corner Podcast with my partners, Brian Siegler and Jonathan
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  Talley. I'm Curtis Wilson, and this
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  episode is brought to you by. Doctor Jeremy Katz down at the
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  Main Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
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  Your friendly neighborhood pharmacy, 301 S Main St. in
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  Blacksburg. Fellas, it's been a rough
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  weekend. How's everybody doing?
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  Still pissed I'm living. I woke up the the the food
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  tasted like shit, but I'm still here, so.
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  Food tasted like shit, but you're still here.
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  What? Food tastes bad after the loss,
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  man. Whoa.
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  Everything with no loss. A little while.
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  I want the ass kicking as. The ass with it.
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  We got our ass drilled, We got. Crushed by Louisville, which we
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  are going to definitely get into tonight.
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  Don't worry about that. Y'all.
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  We also are going to take a look at the Boston College game
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  because this becomes a very pivotal game in the Hokies
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  chances of making it to a bowl this season.
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  So we're going to talk about that, know the enemy, breakdown,
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  some of their players and some stuff.
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  But before we get into all that tonight, let's talk about hoop
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  season starting last night. Let's start with some bright
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  spots and let's start with the men's first as they take care of
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  Coppin State 155. Just an absolute thrashing from
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  beginning to end. And I don't know how much y'all
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  got to see. It was a Monday night, things
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  going on. We all got lives.
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  What were y'all's takeaways from it, Ron?
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  What was your first take away from it, man?
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  I mean I I like the depth I'm seeing so far like out the gate
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  I'm seeing a lot more depth, you know a little bit better in the
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  front court, a little bit better in the back court too.
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  So I think overall I like what I'm seeing so far.
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  I like the, the addition of Nickel having an an extra
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  sharpshooter out there. You know, you throw in Rex
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  Steiner too, I mean. That's that's a good combo to
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  have out there that can shoot the three nickel kind of score
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  from a bunch of different spots. So that's going to be a good off
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  the bench 1-2 punch for us. Just kind of looking forward to
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  see how they progress in jail as the as the season goes along.
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  Let you tell. I know you were at your son's
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  game watching him hoop it up, but obviously I'm sure you
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  checked out highlights, did some reading, did some stat watching.
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  What do you think? Yeah, kind of like what Brian
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  said. I mean, the depth on the team
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  was. A good thing looks like
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  everybody who who got in and scored, which is always good.
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  Of course when you blow somebody out, you know, so everybody got
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  in and got to get, you know, get a bucket.
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  Team looks bigger. You got people coming off the
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  bench with some size and depth and you got some veterans You
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  don't. You don't.
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  It's not just young players. You know, when you seem to run a
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  system like Mike Young, you got to have some veteran leadership
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  because. I mean, you're not going to get
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  five stars just coming in, coming in, you know, ready to
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  play. So having some of those players
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  that are transferred in, veterans have been, you know,
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  seniors or juniors definitely helps.
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  Especially when you're trying to play for something like, you
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  know, getting into the tournament or if you do get to
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  the tournament, you know going deep into the tournament having.
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  Somebody who's kind of been there and seen some different
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  things helps. So good balance of old and young
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  players. Yeah, I'm with y'all on both of
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  that. And Brian, you mentioned him
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  earlier, me and Tally were talking about.
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  Tyler Nickel, There's a reason. Tyler Nickel, So many records
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  here in the state of Virginia. There's a reason Carolina wanted
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  him so bad and the way he looked coming off the bench, I mean his
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  his stat line last night was 4 for 9 from the field, 12 points.
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  He grabbed seven boards, had a block.
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  And Tyler, you said it just second ago.
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  We looked. Bigger.
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  We looked bigger between him. Kidd looked bigger than he did
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  last year. We going to get there, Eric,
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  That's our as as one of our buddies, Eric there chiming in.
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  Eric, we're going to get there. Got to give us a little while.
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  Got a lot to talk about. We look bigger, we look more
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  physical. Between Beran, Kidd, Obviously
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  Padula, Collins and Couture Older along with Poteet.
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  And Long and I was telling Tally.
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  I think that this team, I mean it's great to see all of all,
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  all 11 guys score that played last night.
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  It's great to see that. It really is.
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  But I sit here and with the starting five, as long as we can
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  get something every game out of Poteet, Long and Richtensteiner,
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  along with nickel, again, quality minutes, they ain't got
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  to go out there and score 15 points a game.
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  But it's go in there and be effective.
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  The team can do a lot. But let's be realistic, Callie,
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  you were looking up there. You were saying it's going to be
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  on ACC Network. We did not get a test this early
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  against a division, a Power 5 opponent, but we get to play
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  South Carolina on. Thursday or excuse?
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  Me Friday night, I don't know much about them.
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  I'll be honest. If you know y'all, I'm sure
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  David Cunningham's writing something up, but I think
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  getting a test that early. What do you need to see from on
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  Friday night, both of y'all? I let Tally go.
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  Brian, go ahead. Well, I'll go.
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  I mean, mainly for me, man, when it comes to basketball, I'm
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  always like, I don't care about all the fluff on the schedule
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  until you get the ACC play. You know, when you talk
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  basketball, when you get the conference wins or conference
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  games, everything's a little bit different.
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  Everything's a little bit more intense.
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  So we have been starting the season kind of like you said,
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  Curtis Whit. A lot of teams and looks like,
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  oh, we're rolling and then next thing you know you hit some
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  Power Five type teams and then you start to get into ACC play
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  and things just fall apart or you start seeing the true team
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  come out. So I don't know much about South
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  Carolina, but I do know that there's South Carolina there,
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  SCC opponent, you know, and it's the second game of the season.
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  So it's going to show you, you know, a little bit and it's, I
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  don't want to say it's going to show you what team you have, but
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  it's just good to see it early in the season.
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  You know what I'm saying? For better or worse, you got
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  something to build on because I feel like we were kind of riding
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  high last year until we played with College of Charleston on
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  somebody weird. And next time, you know, you
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  start seeing some inefficient play in that loss and some
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  things that people kind of took advantage of.
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  So playing against a team that's probably, you know, similar in
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  size and skill, Again, don't know a lot about South Carolina,
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  but you know. Know they're probably going to
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  have some size and some skilled players.
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  You know it's going to show us kind of what we what we got for
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  the year and what we can make adjustments and things like
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  that. Matt, you Ron.
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  Yeah, I agree. I think this is going to kind of
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  be that that early test kind of similar to what we saw from Penn
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  State last year. Hopefully that's not a a 40
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  minute grind fest like that game turned out to be, and then
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  obviously. You know what we did against
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  college at Charleston I like Tally was saying after that so
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  but I think it's a good test like like he said there's going
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  to be some size they should have some decent guard play that
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  we'll need to get used to as we get into conference play because
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  I think when we got into conference play last year any
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  team with guards they they really gave us some fits we we
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  we didn't show up the way we did two defensively against those
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  type of teams so and we see better play on that front. 100%
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  and and it's good. South Carolina but it's not just
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  South Carolina because then we got Boise.
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  Boise was a tournament team last year.
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  Don't forget that. And then we play Auburn who was
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  the number two seed last year in the ACCSEC Challenge later on
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  this month. So I think it's what Y'all said
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  earlier last year it took five games and then we play College
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  of Charleston, who was a good team, who did make the
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  tournament, if I can don't recall, or if they were one of
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  the better teams in the So Con and that that that messed us up.
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  Penn State wasn't that there were an OK team last year.
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  Here we're probably going to get you're getting again AP5 in
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  again, AP5 in South Carolina, and then two teams that made the
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  tournament and Boise and Auburn over the last five years have
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  made the tournament consistently.
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  You know they're good teams and there's your barometer.
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  Go in and beat those two teams. Maybe we feel something
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  different, but maybe not. All right, let's flip off that
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  and let's go over to the ladies side because they also played
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  both in Castle for those who are in Blacksburg.
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  I mean back-to-back games in Castle with the ladies #8 ranked
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  who take care of the high point Panthers 9455.
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  And I mean this, this, this. Similar to the men this wasn't a
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  game after the first half. It did.
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  It didn't even feel that close because, I mean, they jumped.
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  They really jumped on them in that first quarter and just kind
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  of wrote it out after that. Yeah, Liz was good as always.
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  But having one extra shooter on the floor, they've got a shooter
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  everywhere. Then they got Liz in the post.
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  That's going to be hard because you can't double team Liz all
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  the time like teams were doing last year.
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  Liz is a monster, man. I mean, she's just a 20.
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  I think she had 2711, something like that.
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  Yeah, it's just 12 or like 12 or 17 shooting.
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  It's like. Oh, Andretti back.
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  I'm about to get on. I'm about to get on him later.
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  Welcome back, Andretti. But yeah, Liz and the postman,
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  it's going to be a nightmare for most teams that they play.
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  And every year is different. You know what I'm saying?
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  Like during the summer, you're going to get better, you're
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  going to jail, you're going to get worse, whatever.
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  You can see it in. In LSULSU came out and got the
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  heads beating. And really, in the first game
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  now I don't put it put it on him.
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  So you know it's not just. Oh, well, this team's going to
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  win it. We, you know, you got to go
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  play. So to see a star come out like
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  she did against a inferior team and just go and dominate and do
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  what she's supposed to do, you know, that's what I expected.
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  But it's good to see. Yeah, I think she made her first
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  nine shots or something from the, yeah.
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  Some crazy she was. 12 She scored 27 points, I mean 27 and
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  11 was the stat line. But y'all y'all make the point
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  of Brian. You made the point about having
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  the out the additional shooters because you had them more.
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  You got King and now you've got a few others that can K who can
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  light it up. But take a look at Olivia Sumal
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  stat line. 20 minutes played. She only had a couple points,
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  four points grabbed, eight boards blocked a shot.
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  She's a six, two. She's listed as a guard, but at
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  six, two again, it's that whole piece of we.
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  Need a more? Physicality, right?
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  That's what lost us at LSU game was having the physicality.
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  We wore down. We wore down late.
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  In between Michelle and her, they both grabbed eight boards.
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  That's big. That's big because the whole
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  thing, what that means is what you said.
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  Kitley is a beast, and now Kitley doesn't have to go in and
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  fight and claw all the time on the interior.
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  We know she can do it, but there's some games it's going to
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  be like. We got to save her because we're
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  going to need those baskets in the fourth quarter now.
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  Now they've got you won't talk about a monster game, Monster
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  game 8 versus 2 in Charlotte Thursday night versus Iowa and
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  Caitlin Clark, I mean I was discussing with Brian here, you
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  watched it. You going to watch the NFL game,
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  you can watch the ladies hoops games because.
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  And there's bears. Fuck the NFL game.
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  It's. Bears Panther If you're not a
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  fan of either team, it doesn't matter it.
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  Doesn't matter unless you're gambling or maybe you got
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  somebody in fantasy on there just want to see Khalil Herbert
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  run or something. But like, I mean you you won't
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  talk about Barometer that's going to tell the story for both
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  those teams real early in this season?
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  Right. Yeah, we're going, we're going
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  to see how how much that mix up is working for this team
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  obviously I think. We have a little more gelling to
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  do than they probably do just with you know some of the holes
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  that we're plugging true. But when you look at it, having
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  having Liz in the post, having a more that can get her own shot
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  and then having three other three-point shooters on the team
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  that can stretch the floor and give Liz those one on ones.
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  You know what? I I I think we're going to give
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  them some problems. I know Caitlin Clark is a beast,
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  but I think we're going to give them some problems.
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  We'll see and. Obviously, probably, definitely
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  going to have a home court advantage down in Charlotte.
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  Tons of Hokies if y'all hadn't seen it, a bunch of people you
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  know in a Charlotte area, you're going to be there.
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  It's not a long drive from Blacksburg either, so I expect
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  that to be a hokey leaning crowd.
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  All right, one more thing to talk about before we get into
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  football here and let's talk about probably.
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  I don't know. You can argue between women's
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  hoops or men or wrestling, which is the bigger national power
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  right now. Wrestling opened up this week
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  with the Southeast open, which was down in the New River Valley
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  area. Y'all know I had a tight text up
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  our buddy David Fuqua. Me and him got back and forth
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  because I knew it was happening. I knew he's paying attention at
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  it like crazy. 5 Hokies took wins in it.
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  Four of the freshman or sophomore variety, he explained
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  to me. In this tournament, every year
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  you have your basic or you have all the weight classes, but
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  there's also a freshman, sophomore stuff so that the
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  younger guys get out there and compete.
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  We took four of those. Kayla Penson, who's obviously a
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  beast upon himself, you know, made podium last year at the
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  national finals. He won his bracket.
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  Sam Fisher. Who was, I believe, a younger
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  guy last year? He finished second.
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  The only guy that beat him was a #3 ranked player or #3 ranked
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  wrestler in his weight class in the country for Oregon State.
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  So that's a good start for that kid.
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  What? Dave's a little bit concerned
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  about with future. A little bit concerned about is
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  Sam. Latona got knocked out in the
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  semis. He finished third place.
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  Sam obviously did some big stuff last year, but.
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  I asked him, I was like, well, how do you feel?
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  He's like, overall this is a really good showing and for what
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  we did, especially with the younger guys coming up.
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  And then I asked him about Ohio State because that's a big one
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  Friday night. And Castle, I'm sure Castle will
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  be packed. I'm not sure if it's on ACC
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  Network or anything but. The.
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  Explanation was this, and I'm going to read it here from David
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  earlier the season. Wrestling will not put stress on
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  players. If you were slightly nicked,
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  don't matter. Get healthy.
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  So what? He said.
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  This could be. And I know I'm doing a lot of
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  talking here. I literally got me and him have
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  a conversation for like 20 minutes.
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  I got a whole bunch of stuff here for wrestlers.
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  March matters. Getting there matters too.
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  You've got to win. You can't just sit out all
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  season. But if you're banged up, there
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  ain't no need to go out there and stretch your body.
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  Stress it out. What he did say and this is his
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  opinion and we're going to try to have David on sometime
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  between now and the end of the year just to give us some
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  highlights on it. But it's the deepest we've ever
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  been. You know we're we're fourth in
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  the country right now and in most of the polls and what?
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  He said Friday night. Hodgepodge.
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  You guys only full, only fully healthy guys going.
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  You know, Tally, You were joking in here.
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  You don't know much about wrestling.
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  You said you've watched. We probably need to go get some
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  of them wrestling guys to get on the football team.
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  They taking people down. We wasn't fucking tackling
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  nobody, so we might need to get some of them wrestlers to come
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  out here and show us how to tackle or just put some uniforms
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  on. So that's the only part I know
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  now I know a little about wrestling but I didn't get to
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  watch any of the match, so that's why I was saying I didn't
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  really, I didn't really, you know, pay attention to the first
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  match. But I will be tuning in on on
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  Friday. Checking some of that out,
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  definitely. Paying attention to it, Brian,
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  you got anything on this? I know you did one season of
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  wrestling. I.
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  Did I did one season of wrestling in high school?
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  Just for leverage. Right.
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  What's that? Helps with leverage, right?
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  It does. It does.
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  It helps with conditioning, too. You can make it through a
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  wrestling season. Football season ain't nothing,
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  man. We might have a Fuqua and get
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  Jason on our our Music guy. Officially, he made a video
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  today. His gig season's over because
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  he's got to start assistant wrestling coaching this.
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  Week So. We're going to definitely be
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  paying attention to it again with all the stuff we've got
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  going on, I let. Him slide that it was country
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  roads. I let it I let it slide.
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  I I did know about Virginia. I, I said, I said, You know, you
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  got you got a song that's mentioning West Virginia.
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  Written while driving through western Maryland, About for
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  geography of Western Virginia. So it's true.
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  John Denver was high as hell when he wrote that song, clearly
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  not even a joke. All righty.
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  Well, you know, it was nice talking about some positive
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  vibes from Hokie Nation, but we got to tell the truth to.
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  You here, we. Go we need we need to have some
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  sound effects because clearly when we have good times we going
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  to show you all at least a few highlights from the game.
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  We need to have some sound effects.
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  But let's tell the truth Tuesday and boys, I mean let's talk
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  about what went well, because in my opinion, you name it, it
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  probably didn't go well. What went well?
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  I got one thing. All right, one.
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  Thing What's that? The scoring streak continues.
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  We didn't get shut out. Didn't get shut out.
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  That's the only. Good thing I can pull out of
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  that tape. I'm proud of you for for
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  thinking of that, because I didn't never even think of that.
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  It's pretty good bro, either. I think of it.
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  Only thing that I had good that went good was I didn't go to
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  fucking Louisville. I.
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  Saved my money. I had a.
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  Bad fucking feeling. I saved my money, kept that in
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  my pocket, and I didn't take my ass to Louisville.
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  Because you know how pissed I would have been if I'd have went
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  to that game? We've got drug like that.
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  I'd have been like Andretti. I'd have been on here talking
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  crazy well. You also probably would have
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  been hammered too, with all that bourbon that was been flowing.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah, I did.
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  I would have got on space. Saturday night and you were on
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  space Saturday night. It would have been, it would
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  have been bad. All right.
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  So real quick, real quick all. Right.
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  So emotion, we're done with what went well.
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  Let me move on. Yes, we're good.
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  We're good. That, that's it.
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  That's it. Tally saved money and we didn't
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  get shut out. That's it.
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  So y'all, let's let's get to it, because it ain't no, it ain't no
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  sugar what went bad. And I'm going to tell y'all, we
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  get into some of the technical stuff.
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  The way I felt watching that game was we legitimately got
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  outclassed every single phase. It was felt like every single
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  play of the game. I think they had Connor
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  Stallions on their sideline, man.
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  You. Saying they stealing plays.
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  It looked like you got the gate, man, didn't it?
• 20:39
  Shit. Oh man, it was.
• 20:41
  Well, look. At the first play, I mean, but
• 20:45
  what do you think, Brian? What's some of the stuff that
• 20:46
  just went real bad, and why do you feel it went bad?
• 20:51
  Pass protection was awful, and what they did was that they sent
• 20:57
  a lot of, well time blitzes. They slanted into our uncovered
• 21:03
  and made them have to make a decision.
• 21:05
  We didn't do a very good job communicating and making those
• 21:08
  decisions, and we had free guys running at the quarterback way
• 21:12
  too damn often. All right.
• 21:18
  Charlie man, I don't even know where to start.
• 21:20
  Did. You let me go because we got a
• 21:22
  big list here. That's.
• 21:22
  What I'm saying it's just whatever, whatever you think
• 21:25
  about with bad, with bad, man, it was just the main thing for
• 21:28
  me. That I think went bad was just
• 21:30
  our game plan. I don't think that our game plan
• 21:33
  was. Well.
• 21:35
  Thought out. I don't know what the fuck we
• 21:37
  did last week. And I'm saying we as a
• 21:39
  collective. Coaches, players, equipment,
• 21:43
  staff, cheerleaders, the band, the four cadets, fucking Jeremy
• 21:50
  at the AT Jeremy. You got to do a better job of
• 21:53
  getting people Tylenol. Because it looks like we had.
• 21:55
  Fucking headaches out there, I don't know what.
• 21:59
  I don't. Know, but the game plan was
• 22:02
  totally not what I expected it to be and we'll get to that a
• 22:06
  little bit later. But it was it was awful since
• 22:09
  you since you brought Jeremy to this.
• 22:10
  I I got to see Jeremy on Saturday just before kickoff.
• 22:14
  Just before kickoff. And and he had a he had a new
• 22:19
  ritual that he was trying out because he had learned,
• 22:21
  apparently that when he doesn't hammer Jameson before a game and
• 22:25
  he's not hammered off his ass, we've started winning more.
• 22:29
  So he was he was drinking light beer and not Jameson at the bar.
• 22:34
  Well, I'm glad we fucking lost drinking light beer.
• 22:37
  That's what happens. Get back on that Jameson.
• 22:40
  He'll go back shots all night. You got to start early.
• 22:45
  We play at 12 this week. Oh man, that man going to be in
• 22:49
  all sorts of trouble. Well, Callie, you you made a
• 22:51
  point. I'm going to jump on it real
• 22:53
  quick here about the game plans. It it didn't look good.
• 22:56
  But what what always makes me more worried that you know what
• 22:59
  if if they just scouted you good and you thought hey this is
• 23:01
  going to work and it doesn't work.
• 23:03
  I just felt like we were just slow to slow to adjust on the
• 23:07
  sides of the balls. And I know early that was some
• 23:10
  execution, right. It was them doing stuff.
• 23:13
  But Brian, you said it a few minutes ago, the kind of
• 23:15
  stallions thing, they look like this is how we're going to
• 23:18
  attack and. And it led to the bad pass
• 23:20
  protection, the ineffective run game tally.
• 23:24
  You texted us and it's like, can we just run the quarterback?
• 23:28
  We finally did. It took to the middle of the
• 23:30
  second quarter. Why?
• 23:33
  Go ahead? No.
• 23:35
  It's just when I'm texting, y'all I'm saying, we're watching
• 23:38
  the game. Honestly, I'm going to be very
• 23:40
  candid with what I feel. Yes.
• 23:42
  I feel like the coaching staff didn't believe we could win the
• 23:45
  game, so they say it. We're going to go out and we're
• 23:48
  going to protect everybody that we can protect.
• 23:50
  I don't know if you have some people banged up.
• 23:52
  I don't know if of course you do.
• 23:53
  It's football. But it's like there was like
• 23:55
  drones. We got to protect you.
• 23:57
  We got the rest of these games that we can win.
• 24:00
  We just want to make sure that, you know, we can get through
• 24:02
  these games, we can get to Boston College, we can get to
• 24:06
  back home and we can get to UVA. So we start dropping back.
• 24:12
  No, that's not what we're good at.
• 24:15
  We haven't done that good all year.
• 24:18
  You know, we start out by moving the quarterback, moving the
• 24:21
  pocket, running the quarterback. And like you said, we didn't do
• 24:24
  that till the second-half and then we start moving the ball.
• 24:28
  You know, two had 60 yards at halftime and then we stopped
• 24:32
  going to what works, you know? Again, I know they made
• 24:34
  adjustments and Louisville's a good team.
• 24:36
  They're a little bit better than I anticipated them being, but I
• 24:39
  don't think they were 34 to 3 better than us.
• 24:43
  You know it's. Just game plan execution.
• 24:46
  US coming out flat looking scared, no life from coaches.
• 24:53
  From what I can see on TV. It was just a lot of stuff, man.
• 24:56
  And it was it was disheartening to watch because we watch these,
• 25:02
  we watch this team week after week and we study and we go back
• 25:06
  and look at tape that wasn't the same team that we've seen
• 25:09
  playing. Then people say, Oh well, you
• 25:12
  know, we play different at home and we was getting fucking
• 25:14
  fucked up at home. For a long time, it ain't just
• 25:16
  like we've been a great home team.
• 25:18
  We won a couple of home games. We had started seeing
• 25:21
  progression. The team had started progressing
• 25:24
  every week, you know, and people say, oh, well, we just beat up
• 25:28
  on bad teams. The bad teams was fucking us up.
• 25:31
  We've been getting beat by bad teams.
• 25:34
  So it's not a excuse. It's just you started seeing
• 25:38
  progression and then we took a huge step back, you know what
• 25:41
  I'm saying? When that part was like, very,
• 25:44
  very. Disheartening and it just makes
• 25:47
  you angry to watch, man. It's like you don't want to go
• 25:49
  back and watch tape. You don't want to go back and
• 25:52
  because you see everything going wrong.
• 25:54
  I know Brian was probably like me.
• 25:56
  When you go look at some of the steps and people crossing your
• 25:59
  face and it's like we just look lost, you know it was it was
• 26:04
  horrible. They got, they got punched in
• 26:06
  the mouth and they just didn't know how to counterpunch like.
• 26:08
  And that's coaching staff, that's players, that's
• 26:11
  everybody. And I mean, when we look at it
• 26:14
  like it was just, it was frustrating to watch because,
• 26:18
  you know, from a game plan perspective, both script and
• 26:22
  adjustments, that's the worst game.
• 26:24
  Yeah, we've seen from Tyler Bowen since Rutgers.
• 26:28
  And really, you could even go back to Purdue.
• 26:31
  You want to go. You want to go back to the last
• 26:33
  two seasons that might have been the worst in the last two
• 26:36
  seasons. It.
• 26:37
  Was bad. Like see?
• 26:38
  Like go back to last year and think.
• 26:41
  I don't think there was anything that where it looked like they
• 26:46
  were completely ready for us and we had no quick counters and and
• 26:51
  you know. Then you had the procedural
• 26:52
  penalties, which I know you both of.
• 26:54
  Y'all will say that's that happened early.
• 26:56
  It was loud there, but that's also probably that confidence.
• 27:00
  Things like Brian, you said it numerous times, you jump because
• 27:04
  you know that guy's going to beat you.
• 27:06
  Yeah. Well, you just got to start
• 27:07
  people. People start whooping on your
• 27:08
  ass and talking that shit to you.
• 27:10
  You start thinking about it and jumping off sides and getting
• 27:13
  scared and moving around. So it was just, it was it was a
• 27:16
  bad showing all around you thinking about getting beaten.
• 27:19
  So the thing about doing your job.
• 27:21
  That's true. Now, a couple other things.
• 27:23
  I mean, you know, defense, not a great game either.
• 27:26
  I mean, it was, you know, we didn't.
• 27:30
  Finish. This was the first probably
• 27:31
  time. Probably.
• 27:33
  Maybe Rutgers? Like we didn't finish because in
• 27:37
  the Marshall game we were finishing a few times.
• 27:39
  We just is what it is. We didn't finish when we had one
• 27:43
  sack after 15 in the last two games.
• 27:47
  And then probably the most upsetting part to me watching it
• 27:50
  was the regression back on the run fits.
• 27:54
  Because even the Florida State game, yeah, they broke 2/1 was a
• 27:58
  bad fit. The other guy just beat us.
• 28:00
  But it it had been since Marshall since we saw that.
• 28:05
  Right. Play after.
• 28:06
  Play. Play after.
• 28:07
  Play. And now.
• 28:08
  Now to our credit, we only gave up one huge, huge run, right?
• 28:13
  So maybe not a full aggression, but what do you what do you
• 28:16
  think? I mean don't even look at it was
• 28:17
  it was the IT was the small gashes the the ones that are
• 28:20
  really kind of kill you too because not only are you getting
• 28:24
  giving up yards, but you're staying on the field and all
• 28:28
  that stuff too. So you're getting worn down and
• 28:30
  that's that's what we saw with of the second-half and how the
• 28:33
  that score kind of ballooned on us a little bit, you know,
• 28:36
  especially the way we kind of opened that second-half.
• 28:41
  If it and it felt like that second-half opening score was
• 28:44
  kind of when every bit of life that was still left in the team
• 28:47
  kind of went away, right like it, it just looked like they
• 28:51
  were going through the motions the rest of the way.
• 28:52
  And I mean, I get it, but I mean it's still you know A3 score
• 28:58
  game, you get you, you turn around you get a touchdown
• 29:01
  you're right back in it. But I think just confidence
• 29:04
  wise, they they were shot at that point and you know I don't
• 29:09
  know how much of the the run fit.
• 29:12
  Like I said, it still wasn't awful, but.
• 29:15
  You know how much of that is Strowman?
• 29:18
  Not really playing A whole lot. And we might not have him this
• 29:20
  week too. So it's hard to tell if that's
• 29:24
  something that's going to be a symptom of that's creeping back
• 29:27
  on us for the rest of the year, or if that's just kind of a one
• 29:30
  off because of who we were playing, because of who we
• 29:33
  didn't have available. We'll see.
• 29:35
  I'm. I'm hoping to see better this
• 29:36
  week at BC, but that doesn't inspire confidence, no?
• 29:40
  Man, it's just like we didn't have the the We can talk about
• 29:43
  coaching, we can talk about coordinators, we can talk about
• 29:47
  uniforms. The team didn't have no fight.
• 29:50
  Like I seen Louisville pushing our guys around.
• 29:53
  The fucking stupid ass commentator with the ugly
• 29:56
  haircut kept talking that shit. Oh, Louisville is hitting,
• 29:59
  they're, they're hitting. Oh, I think two was returning to
• 30:02
  kick and he got hit. He got popped or something and
• 30:05
  they just made such a big deal out of it.
• 30:07
  But I seen none of our guys like bow up, fight back.
• 30:12
  You know, like we have been scrapping with people.
• 30:14
  Somebody get in our face, we push them off like.
• 30:17
  You know what I'm saying? We just didn't have none of
• 30:19
  that. We just getting hit and it's
• 30:20
  just, oh, everybody just kind of getting up.
• 30:22
  It was like just went in with no fight, no heart, no effort.
• 30:26
  So that is a player thing. But that's a like Robbie was in
• 30:31
  here earlier talking, you know, I think he said, you know,
• 30:34
  sometimes that happens in coaching, but a coach has to see
• 30:38
  that and has to rally his troops, you know what I'm
• 30:41
  saying? You know, stop pumping them up.
• 30:45
  When you get somebody on the ground, leave them down.
• 30:47
  Now help your own teammates up like we in a dogpipe.
• 30:49
  Be friends after it's over. We just didn't mindset, so I
• 30:54
  haven't seen that in a lot of games this year like that.
• 30:59
  That's. I mean, no, that this is the
• 31:01
  game, yeah. Like I haven't seen and.
• 31:04
  And I think, let me flip to this real quick.
• 31:05
  Yeah, go. Ahead that's.
• 31:06
  Something I'm guessing you weren't prepared for because the
• 31:08
  other eight games we played all year, Rutgers.
• 31:13
  I mean, I'm thinking with the losses, Rutgers, Marshall,
• 31:16
  Purdue, Florida State. We.
• 31:19
  Fought those games? Yeah, you punch back.
• 31:22
  At least that kind of shocked you.
• 31:23
  Like, that's your big shock. Like, what are we doing?
• 31:26
  Yeah. It was just that the no fight,
• 31:28
  like you said, skipping over to what I wasn't prepared for.
• 31:31
  I was prepared for Louisville to be a good team, you know, and
• 31:36
  even us talking, I said I don't know if we win, but I didn't
• 31:38
  think it was going to get beat by 30 points.
• 31:41
  You know what I'm saying? I thought we would at least
• 31:43
  cover. I think that that it was 10
• 31:45
  points when we first started out.
• 31:47
  I thought, man, they may get us by 10, they may get us by 7-8.
• 31:51
  No, wrong. It was it was nothing.
• 31:54
  And it wasn't nothing they did. That was so their number one
• 31:57
  receiver was out. They didn't do anything great.
• 32:01
  Curtis had something that kind of threw him by surprise, but he
• 32:05
  said he wasn't prepared for with the quarterback.
• 32:08
  So I'll let him talk about that and then go back on it.
• 32:10
  What'd you say about that? Well.
• 32:12
  Plummer. Brian looked at the tape and
• 32:14
  Plummer was like a last option Resort was to run Plummer and
• 32:17
  Plummer had five for 25 and they were, they were like one was an
• 32:21
  11 yard run on like third down and it was just like, are you
• 32:24
  kidding? Then he got like 5 in four in
• 32:27
  six, and it's just like you're sitting here and it's just like,
• 32:30
  I hated that because the expectation was he's not going
• 32:33
  to do anything with his legs and I don't know if it was all
• 32:37
  aggressiveness. But they knew it, and they took
• 32:39
  advantage of it early. And what happens when a guy who
• 32:42
  doesn't run runs a few times early nearby?
• 32:45
  His eye starts looking. They don't trust themselves,
• 32:48
  but. You know, what's he doing?
• 32:50
  You know what it felt like to me.
• 32:52
  It felt like they watched our tape and said, oh, they got
• 32:54
  something that works. We're going to do it.
• 32:57
  They they look what their game plan was, was what I thought our
• 33:01
  game plan was going to be. You know, moving, not even
• 33:04
  saying that the quarterback has to run so much, but just that
• 33:07
  little bit of effectiveness that he had, like you say, it started
• 33:11
  shifting people's eyes one way or the other and things like
• 33:14
  that. And it's just that's when the
• 33:16
  run fits get off, you know, that's when we start having some
• 33:18
  problems. But that's what we've been
• 33:20
  doing. That's why people was having
• 33:22
  problems with us. We just didn't go to it.
• 33:25
  It's true, yeah. I mean the thing I I'd really
• 33:29
  say is how badly we tackled in space.
• 33:34
  Like there was a there was a lot of missed tackles and we hadn't
• 33:36
  really seen that many missed tackles the last month month and
• 33:39
  1/2. So I wasn't ready for that.
• 33:42
  I I I was not expecting us to be that poor in our execution in
• 33:48
  the tackling. So that that's that's one of
• 33:51
  those things where you know a three yard game becomes the
• 33:55
  first down or the three yard loss becomes A5 yard gain and
• 33:59
  now they're you know on a good cadence for their for the down
• 34:02
  and distance and they can have the full playbook at their
• 34:06
  disposal on second and third down.
• 34:07
  So it it that's what really frustrated me is because coming
• 34:12
  off a game where we got off the field with regularity, we could
• 34:15
  not get off the fucking field, no.
• 34:18
  We. Could not get off the field and
• 34:19
  that was probably again very disappointing for us.
• 34:22
  But let let's flip it because like we we went through the bad.
• 34:25
  We talked about it right at 20 minutes here about the bad but
• 34:30
  what do we got to do better moving forward.
• 34:32
  And before we go, before we have these other three points tally,
• 34:35
  I, I, I jumped on the space where you were on Don be making
• 34:39
  some points and you got to talk about the road mentality thing
• 34:42
  because it's an issue now. It is a serious issue.
• 34:46
  We are one and nine under the staff.
• 34:48
  We are now O and three this year, no O and four this year.
• 34:53
  Right. O and four, yeah, O and four.
• 34:55
  O and four this year. What has to change because I I
• 35:01
  I. Listened to you talk about 5
• 35:02
  minutes. Yeah.
• 35:04
  So real quick for the people who who don't work in on the on the
• 35:09
  space after the game. I was just talking about, you
• 35:13
  know as a athlete, high school. For me it's much different from
• 35:19
  college. But I I started there, so I'm
• 35:21
  talking about. When you're home, you got
• 35:24
  certain rituals, You know, that's just for you being home,
• 35:28
  you know, for me. I came on the field.
• 35:31
  We warmed up. I would come out just my, you
• 35:33
  know, my pants on, you know, my undershirt, my helmet.
• 35:38
  I got my I always put my gloves on my mask and I would walk the
• 35:43
  field and my mom and grandma sat on the opposite side.
• 35:47
  They would sit on the opposite side because at our field in
• 35:50
  high school. The visitor side was the old
• 35:55
  side, so it was made out of like stone.
• 35:57
  So the seats were wider. You could, you know, you could
• 36:02
  fit your butt on those seats a little bit better.
• 36:04
  So the home side was the newer side where it had more seating,
• 36:07
  but they were more of the, you know, the silver bleachers, you
• 36:11
  know, my mom was like, I don't like them, I'm going to sit on
• 36:13
  this side. So she always sit on the
• 36:15
  opposite side, on the, on the, on the opposing side.
• 36:19
  So I would walk the field. You know, do my listen to a
• 36:22
  little bit of music. And I would always go to my mom
• 36:24
  and my grandma. They come up to the to the fence
• 36:27
  and lean over. I give my mom a kiss and, you
• 36:29
  know, talk some crap with my grandma and then I start getting
• 36:33
  to my, you know, game ritual stuff.
• 36:35
  But my mind was starting to work and I played that in my head
• 36:40
  every home game. So what you got to do as when
• 36:43
  you go on the road, you can still have rituals.
• 36:46
  They're just not going to be your same home rituals.
• 36:48
  My son is in sports now. He's playing basketball.
• 36:51
  The first game we went, I mean Halloween, we went and played
• 36:56
  some country, country white boys.
• 36:58
  That's about an hour and 15 minutes away in a place called
• 37:01
  Hartzell. And these little boys can bawl
• 37:03
  like they're just very fundamental.
• 37:05
  They country, so they lie out and they just in your face when
• 37:09
  they get a trap, they're yelling, screaming and they
• 37:11
  dominated us, you know? So my son asked me after the
• 37:15
  game. You know, my son's a pretty good
• 37:17
  athlete in everything he plays, you know, so he he's a pretty
• 37:20
  good basketball player. He's almost about 6 foot, you
• 37:24
  know, with his hair. He's about 6-1.
• 37:26
  So playing guard, he's left-handed, so he can do a lot
• 37:30
  of things that some of the other kids can't do.
• 37:32
  But he got held scoreless. I've never seen him be held
• 37:35
  scoreless. And he said I just, I was
• 37:37
  overwhelmed, you know, just having a real talk with him.
• 37:40
  He said the crowd was loud, the boys was loud, that coach was
• 37:43
  loud. You know, I feel like the refs
• 37:45
  weren't giving us calls. What can I do when I go on the
• 37:48
  road to be better? I said, well, you know what, I
• 37:50
  got to help you because you're reaching out to me, asking me.
• 37:53
  So I started sending them some little motivational stuff.
• 37:56
  Before the game, I sent him three points.
• 37:58
  Now because he's played two other home, two other away
• 38:02
  games. After that, I sent him three
• 38:04
  points, you know, kind of use the sandwich thing, I'd say.
• 38:07
  And when I say the sandwich method for him and I give him
• 38:11
  something. The kind that he needs to work
• 38:12
  on something he's great at and then another thing he needs to
• 38:15
  work on. So it's not like I'm just saying
• 38:17
  hey, you got to be at this so I may be like, OK, you got to
• 38:20
  rebound better this game. Last game you had six.
• 38:22
  I need you to try to get 10. You know, second point may be,
• 38:26
  hey, you scored great, just keep doing that And the third one may
• 38:30
  be, hey, you had five turnovers, you got to cut those down.
• 38:33
  So I say all that to say the coaches have to step in and get
• 38:37
  these kids ready for Rd. mentality.
• 38:41
  Whatever they They know those players better than we do.
• 38:44
  You got to know what those rituals are, that they need some
• 38:46
  of the things that you see them doing at home.
• 38:49
  You got to take that on the road.
• 38:51
  You got to tell them maybe if you see somebody eating Jolly
• 38:53
  Ranchers before the game, give them a Jolly Rancher like you
• 38:56
  got to dig into them. You got to get your best players
• 38:59
  moving. We can't wait till the
• 39:00
  second-half to get going. So that road mentality has to
• 39:03
  get better and it's it 100% starts with coaching.
• 39:06
  Players have to play and players have to be ready, but.
• 39:10
  Players are going to take on the mindset of their coaches.
• 39:13
  So these coaches have to get them ready and the coaches got
• 39:15
  to be ready too. You know that that they're,
• 39:17
  they're all new. They have to get ready.
• 39:20
  You know, you leaving, you getting on the road, you leaving
• 39:22
  your family, you being on a bus, you being on a plane.
• 39:25
  You know what I'm saying? You may didn't get to sit down
• 39:28
  and drink your bourbon that night, whatever the case may be,
• 39:32
  you got to get ready for this road game.
• 39:34
  So. I think I went on a little bit
• 39:36
  of a rant there, but I like that, I like that.
• 39:39
  And you're right, A. Lot, man.
• 39:40
  Brian you know, I mean, shit, you know, you've been, you've
• 39:43
  been involved in those rituals and road games and home games,
• 39:47
  so I'll toss it to you and let you talk a little bit.
• 39:49
  Yeah. You cannot approach a road game
• 39:51
  the same way you do a home game from a mentality standpoint,
• 39:55
  because when you're on the road, especially against the team that
• 39:59
  on paper is better than you, you've got to set the tone out
• 40:02
  the gate. And if you're not coming out
• 40:05
  there with that fire in your ass, ready to set that tone,
• 40:09
  it's going to be a long game. We've seen it at FSU.
• 40:13
  They jumped out to US 2022, nothing.
• 40:16
  We saw it at at Louisville where it was 14, nothing right out the
• 40:21
  gate, 14, three and a half time. You know, we were struggling to
• 40:26
  kind of hang on to that. And then Will was completely
• 40:28
  broken when we came out of Locker.
• 40:31
  We've got to find a way of preparing and getting the guys
• 40:35
  ready to go out the gate a lot better in these Rd. situations.
• 40:40
  The only one I've seen that's really come out with some fire
• 40:42
  was Marshall, and we crapped that away because we went ahead
• 40:46
  and went away from what was working in that game.
• 40:50
  But I I need to see it. We we we need to approach these
• 40:53
  Rd. games with that road mentality that Tally's talking
• 40:56
  about. You can't just have that same
• 40:59
  even keel mindset that you do with the home game.
• 41:01
  You've got to approach it with a different kind of fire because
• 41:04
  you got to bring a little bit more of your own juice because
• 41:07
  at home you the the fans are going to bring the juice.
• 41:10
  You're jacked up, you got family in town.
• 41:12
  All these things that you do is what you normally do when you
• 41:16
  hit the road. Every week is different, so you
• 41:19
  got to be able to bring your own juice in a different way.
• 41:22
  And I haven't seen us do that, at least not consistently yet.
• 41:25
  I'm hoping that we see it this week at BC Well.
• 41:28
  It's it's a big week at BC because we say what can we do
• 41:31
  better being before goals are still in front of us, the goals
• 41:35
  are still in front of us. I mean, one goal is getting more
• 41:38
  than three wins. We got there already.
• 41:40
  That seemed like a victory among itself to get to 4, but we still
• 41:43
  got that. But to me, what I bring on this,
• 41:46
  what we got to do, move better, being forward.
• 41:48
  That team can't show up on the fucking field again this year
• 41:51
  and I don't give a damn if it's at the road or home.
• 41:54
  Because if. That team shows up against any
• 41:55
  of these last three opponents. We are not winning those games,
• 41:58
  no. We.
• 41:59
  Look like shit. We look like we didn't want to
• 42:01
  play. Now.
• 42:03
  What I what I hope today helps us move better going forward.
• 42:08
  I don't know if y'all caught this in a prize interview,
• 42:12
  basically grants back it pretty much.
• 42:14
  He can play. But he said we're basically,
• 42:17
  this is Kyron's offense, this is Jones's offense.
• 42:21
  Basically, it's it. This is him.
• 42:24
  Maybe that's a shot to get the whole team ready.
• 42:27
  Maybe. Maybe something weird happened
• 42:28
  last week in practice with with Grant Wells back.
• 42:31
  We don't know that. So yeah, anything else for Y'all
• 42:34
  going forward that we got to do better.
• 42:37
  And I know we we said this a lot, but anything sticks out.
• 42:43
  I got to communicate in the Office of Line better because
• 42:45
  that that was a big problem. Louisville brought some
• 42:49
  different types of pressure that we hadn't seen a lot this year,
• 42:52
  and we got very flustered and it became a big problem.
• 42:56
  The biggest problem we've had holding up up front since the
• 43:01
  first month of the season. So that's got to get better.
• 43:07
  I'm awful. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
• 43:10
  If we're doing something on offense that's working, stop
• 43:13
  trying to fix it. Just just go with it.
• 43:16
  You know? We understand that Tootin is a
• 43:19
  hell of a running back. I know he may be nicked up
• 43:21
  sometimes. He's going to tell you when he
• 43:23
  can't go, but in that first, in that first half, he was moving
• 43:27
  the ball, you know, and some people say, well, we couldn't
• 43:30
  run inside. He was running where he wanted
• 43:31
  to. You know, he was coming off the
• 43:33
  tackle, he was coming between tackle and guard.
• 43:36
  He was beating people to the outside.
• 43:38
  Again, you can't have 60 yards in the first half.
• 43:41
  And then I think he may have ended the game with 50 yards,
• 43:44
  you know what I'm saying? He lost yards in the
• 43:45
  second-half, which is. I understand that that's
• 43:49
  adjustments. But when you have a player like
• 43:51
  that, you got to at least get him going, you know, So I had a
• 43:55
  basketball coach that used to always say weather to storm
• 43:57
  whenever we would play away. He coached much different than
• 44:02
  he did at home. You know that first quarter
• 44:04
  basketball is different than football, but he would always.
• 44:07
  You know, he'd let him go on a run, you know, because you can
• 44:10
  make up 10 points quick in basketball.
• 44:12
  You can make up 15 points quick in basketball.
• 44:14
  And he was just, he was a a real, you know, military guy,
• 44:17
  you know, always was, you know, you got to do it this way.
• 44:20
  You got to. But when we were on away games,
• 44:23
  he was real calm in that first quarter.
• 44:25
  You know, he he just, hey, y'all just weather the storm.
• 44:28
  They playing off emotions. It's all right.
• 44:30
  And then when that second quarter came, Coach D came out
• 44:33
  like he was. Get.
• 44:35
  Your ass in, Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 44:38
  He was a different coach because he understand now.
• 44:41
  The butterflies are gone. The team that I coach and we
• 44:45
  practice with every day should be showing up now.
• 44:48
  And if you ain't going to show up, you're going to come sit
• 44:50
  down. So there you.
• 44:51
  Go. I like that.
• 44:52
  Think moving better going forward.
• 44:54
  What you just said, Tally. If you don't want to show up, go
• 44:56
  sit down regardless, All right. Well, that wraps up that.
• 45:01
  Let's put that one in the trash can, burn it lot of gasoline.
• 45:04
  I don't want to see any remnants of that game ever again.
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  Now back to the episode all. Right, and we are back.
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  Know the enemy? Boston College Eagles.
• 46:42
  As always, we start with the offense 1st.
• 46:44
  And Brian? Let's talk about the offense ran
• 46:47
  by Steve. How about I'm pronouncing his
• 46:49
  name right, Y'all know me and that Shaminko Jimko.
• 46:53
  What are they doing up there? Yeah man we got a got another
• 46:58
  tight end turn quarterback coach with a dual threat transfer
• 47:03
  quarterback. So little bit of a similarity in
• 47:07
  in that regard this this, this one happened to have coached
• 47:11
  quarterbacks before in a limited role.
• 47:15
  But yeah, it's really interesting.
• 47:18
  This is the second year as the quarterback coach.
• 47:20
  First year OC, we got a power spread option.
• 47:27
  Pass game is really predicated on the success of that play
• 47:30
  action and run threat. So if they're not running the
• 47:32
  ball effectively, they're not going to really be able to throw
• 47:35
  the ball very much. Very similar in that regard to
• 47:38
  what we saw coming out of coming out of Syracuse.
• 47:42
  They really have to get the run game going if they're going to
• 47:44
  have any success offensively. Yep.
• 47:47
  Hey, Tally, anything you notice? I know you watched a little bit
• 47:49
  of that Syracuse game on Friday. Anything you noticed there with
• 47:52
  this offense that stuck out to you?
• 47:55
  That offense is going to run with the quarterback.
• 47:57
  I know you're going to talk about him a little bit, but the
• 48:00
  offense doesn't scare me at all. They've got their typical Boston
• 48:06
  College. They're going to have some big
• 48:07
  lineman, they're going to be white and they're going to be
• 48:10
  technical and they're going to move some people.
• 48:13
  And you got a quarterback now with them that's can run.
• 48:17
  And then they going to have some running backs with some crazy
• 48:20
  names that look like they may be from Louisiana or something, but
• 48:23
  they're going to be. Big and they're going to be
• 48:25
  strong and they going to get 3 yards to carry like it's the
• 48:30
  typical Boston College. The only thing that I didn't see
• 48:33
  from them is the fucking cowboy call a tight end that they
• 48:37
  normally have there. You go all.
• 48:41
  Right. Well, let's talk about that
• 48:43
  quarterback, that is. That's the only thing that I
• 48:46
  haven't seen from that offense this year.
• 48:49
  Well, let's talk about Thomas Castellanos.
• 48:52
  He is from Ware County Down in Waycross, GA.
• 48:55
  He was a transfer from UCF when he first came out back in the
• 49:01
  year of 2022, was a very high three star and a top 600 player,
• 49:08
  so a solid player to go to UCF. Stay there a year, then transfer
• 49:12
  it up. And this year, Brian, you're
• 49:14
  going to talk about what he does.
• 49:15
  But just look at the numbers here.
• 49:17
  You know, 760 yards rushing, 5 point to a carry.
• 49:21
  He has 10 touchdowns. Knowing where they score, that
• 49:25
  is a lot. And as far as passing the ball,
• 49:29
  not terrible, just slightly under 58 percent. 1700 yards, 7
• 49:36
  per attempt, 12 touchdowns, 7 interceptions.
• 49:41
  And Brian, what what are you, what are you seeing?
• 49:45
  From it because Tally kind of said, I think your big lead
• 49:47
  point here. Yeah man, the offense goes as he
• 49:50
  goes. If he doesn't have a good game,
• 49:52
  they're not going to have a good game.
• 49:54
  He is their primary rushing threat.
• 49:56
  He leads the team in yards rushing.
• 49:58
  He's got a good arm that can make all the throws, but he's
• 50:01
  mostly likes to live in that that short intermediate range.
• 50:06
  He'll take a shot here and there, but that's not his bread
• 50:08
  and butter. And this is the guy that will
• 50:10
  throw some picks, man. He's like, I think 13 and seven
• 50:14
  touchdown, 12 and 712 and seven touchdown interception.
• 50:17
  So he'll throw some picks. Again, everything that they do
• 50:22
  is predicated on running the football and he will do most of
• 50:24
  that. When he runs that ball, he's
• 50:27
  carrying it like a loaf of bread.
• 50:30
  Somebody need to punch it out, get him on the ground, get the
• 50:34
  ball on the ground. That's, that's that's what you
• 50:36
  got to do to win. We going to make a note of that
• 50:38
  now real quick like he's sitting up he's got 700 plus yards so
• 50:42
  he's averaging roughly about 80 a game.
• 50:46
  This team is a top ten rushing team.
• 50:47
  They are averaging 211 a game. And you know let's talk about,
• 50:52
  let's skip and go back to the wide receiving of Sagna Rumble.
• 50:56
  Let's talk about Kyle Robichaux Tally making fun of him over
• 51:00
  here Tally you know why he's got a a southern name.
• 51:03
  He's from Phoenix City, Alabama. I didn't know that he.
• 51:06
  Is from Phoenix City, Alabama. Did he go to Central?
• 51:10
  Huh. What high school did he go to?
• 51:11
  Did he go to Central Glenwood? OK, that ain't a powerhouse, but
• 51:15
  OK, powerhouse. No, he started at Western
• 51:17
  Kentucky. He was not ranked when he came
• 51:19
  out in 2021, got into Portal ranked in 88 and had a good.
• 51:25
  He's having a really good season so far up there with over 560
• 51:30
  yards rushing, 6 touchdowns. Add another 80 plus in the
• 51:36
  receiving game. So, Brian, what do you see from
• 51:41
  rubbish Shaw on tape? I mean, he's a running back with
• 51:46
  good vision. He's kind of that typical Boston
• 51:48
  College running back. Like like Tally was mentioning.
• 51:50
  Man, he's a guy that runs hard, finishes hard.
• 51:54
  He doesn't really have elite breakaway speed, but that vision
• 51:58
  kind of between the tackles allows him to occasionally bust
• 52:01
  a big run just on that alone. Break some tackles, Not a huge
• 52:06
  tackle breaker, but more of a guy that will, you know, drag
• 52:09
  guys for a few extra yards, find the right right gap and kind of
• 52:13
  run through an arm tackle. They use him some of the screen
• 52:17
  and check down game. Not a huge threat here though.
• 52:21
  And you know he's got a a a back mate there with Garwo.
• 52:24
  I know, we haven't seen a bunch of him either, that, yeah,
• 52:29
  exactly. He's been banged up.
• 52:30
  So Robichaud has been getting most of the run here lately, and
• 52:34
  it's taken advantage of that put out a pretty good campaign so
• 52:36
  far. Yeah, and again, you kind of
• 52:41
  start adding it up. It's like it's really it's him
• 52:44
  and it's it's Castellanos running the ball.
• 52:48
  It. Really is their account for, you
• 52:50
  know, close to 1300 yards out of the 1800 plus they've got, I
• 52:55
  mean we see that. It's like OK.
• 52:57
  Don't let them beat you, but don't let this guy catching the
• 53:01
  ball beat you. And that's going to be Lewis
• 53:03
  Bond. Lewis Bond when he came out in
• 53:08
  2021 out of Kenwood Academy in Chicago, IL.
• 53:12
  An 86 ranked player, so kind of a mid ranked player there, but
• 53:16
  having a hell of a season this year.
• 53:18
  Already 35 receptions, 485 yards, 5 touchdowns.
• 53:25
  This has really been his first year where he has been a primary
• 53:27
  wide receiver up there and thank God that man isn't here anymore.
• 53:33
  What? Should we need Robbie?
• 53:34
  You shouldn't even brought his name up.
• 53:36
  I'm. Glad he did, because this thing
• 53:37
  we ain't got to talk about Zay Flowers this year.
• 53:40
  Right. He got to talk about Zay
• 53:42
  flowers. Ravens.
• 53:43
  Looking good, by the way. Oh.
• 53:45
  Yeah, yeah, they squirrel storm. They they Since we stole one
• 53:50
  from them, they've looked fucking unstoppable.
• 53:53
  There you go. But let's talk about Lewis Bond
• 53:56
  because he is the lead, the team leader in receptions and yards.
• 54:01
  Brian, what is he bringing to the table?
• 54:04
  That it does have to make up for what Zay Jones did for years
• 54:07
  there. Yeah, he's he's more of a kind
• 54:10
  of a shifty burner than he is a stick mover.
• 54:13
  We've seen him hit the big one a couple times this year.
• 54:16
  I think he had one touchdown for 42 yards or or long for 42
• 54:19
  yards. I don't know if it turned into a
• 54:20
  touchdown or not, but they'll move him around a lot in the
• 54:23
  formation. Works mostly at X and out of the
• 54:26
  slot, but he's a guy that can beat you deep.
• 54:30
  They like him on the intermediate stuff, some of the
• 54:32
  stuff over the middle, good, good balance of speed and
• 54:35
  quickness. So he's definitely one that you
• 54:37
  got to watch out for when they do get the passing game going.
• 54:40
  And a lot, a lot of times they like to take those, those
• 54:43
  intermediate and deep shots off that play action, and if they're
• 54:45
  running effectively, that becomes more effective in the
• 54:48
  passing game as well all. Righty.
• 54:51
  Brian, did anybody else receiver wide jump out to you?
• 54:54
  Because when I was just doing the data dives, nothing.
• 54:57
  I mean, you know, we talked about excuse.
• 55:01
  Me that We talked about him having 1700 yards and you're
• 55:05
  talking about just over 1/4. That's to Lewis.
• 55:08
  He's only completed 140 passes. That's a quarter to passes going
• 55:12
  to Lewis Pond too. Did anybody else just jump out
• 55:15
  on tape or yeah, #0 Jayden Williams, he's kind of more of
• 55:20
  their stick mover. He's got to look out.
• 55:23
  He's a, he's a bigger guy. You know, Lewis Bond is kind of
• 55:28
  their burner. He's a smaller 58188 guy.
• 55:32
  James Kind of That bigger stick moving red zone threat all.
• 55:36
  Right, we'll make a note of Jayden Williams.
• 55:39
  Now let's just talk about the offensive line here, Brian,
• 55:42
  because Tally said. It reminds them of an old school
• 55:45
  Boston, Boston College offensive line where the last few years,
• 55:50
  yeah, that that offensive line was trouble.
• 55:53
  Is it better than it was last year?
• 55:57
  Better, especially run blocking, they they do a good job of
• 56:02
  communicating and getting to the second level.
• 56:04
  I I call them mid in terms of pass pro, they don't really give
• 56:07
  up a ton of sacks, but most of that's a product of the
• 56:10
  quarterback #1 having a high, not having a high percentage of
• 56:15
  drop backs versus stuff going on, play action numbers two,
• 56:20
  just being able to escape the pressure with his legs.
• 56:22
  So those two factors are really limiting the sack count.
• 56:27
  But like I said, they're not, I wouldn't call them a very good
• 56:30
  pass pro team. They're they're a very average
• 56:32
  to slightly below average pass pro, but their run blocking is
• 56:36
  kind of, I'd say higher tier. They're they're not as elite as
• 56:39
  the yardage that they're putting out right now, but most of that
• 56:41
  is a product of Castellanos being able to take off and make
• 56:44
  some big plays with his legs. Well, be realistic with me here,
• 56:47
  Brian, when it comes to the you talked about the sacks allowed,
• 56:52
  were there times when you were watching this tape, It was that
• 56:55
  should be a sack, that should be a sack, that should be a sack.
• 56:59
  And he just wiggled his way out. He did that in the Syracuse
• 57:03
  game. There's a bunch of those
• 57:05
  moments, yeah. There's a bunch of those
• 57:07
  moments. And like I said, they don't call
• 57:09
  straight drops a lot either. So you know when they do he he
• 57:15
  does have the ability to skate, but a lot of times they're
• 57:17
  calling those those pass plays off of that play action.
• 57:19
  So he's getting a little bit of a of a cushion there with that
• 57:22
  run action. All right.
• 57:24
  Good deal. Again, just trying to paint a
• 57:26
  picture of what they may be doing and it sounds like to me
• 57:30
  that that run game we you better get back.
• 57:33
  To the Pit game through the Syracuse game and the run
• 57:36
  defense this week. Like I said, they they won't hit
• 57:38
  home runs on you, but it could look like Louisville and a bunch
• 57:42
  of gashes all game if we don't sure that thing up and tackle
• 57:46
  better, well be. Realistic with me though, Do
• 57:48
  they have the offensive power power to get to 30 points?
• 57:51
  No, OK. All right.
• 57:55
  That's. I mean, you know, you got to,
• 57:57
  you got to find wins, right? I don't want to talk too much.
• 58:00
  I don't want to talk too much because I.
• 58:02
  I know how people was last week when you start.
• 58:07
  Uh, Oh no. We did not make his microphone
• 58:10
  go to Technical Difficulties. Valley, get back in here.
• 58:14
  Sorry, I left y'all hanging. Yes, repeat what you said.
• 58:17
  We all so. They're running back's supposed
• 58:19
  to be banged up, overshot supposed to be banged up.
• 58:21
  That's. What they saying?
• 58:23
  They're saying he's supposed to be banged up.
• 58:25
  So we don't know. I mean, I know that.
• 58:28
  Well, hold on. So we need to be Garo hadn't
• 58:34
  played Alex Broom. Y'all see your bed broom, Alex
• 58:39
  Broom number #20. Write that number down because
• 58:46
  no one that's Cali will tell you.
• 58:48
  No one outlook the guy who's not carrying the ball much.
• 58:50
  Watch for Cameron Barfield too. Cameron, Barfield and Broom all
• 58:55
  right. Listen, you know what?
• 58:57
  And I think you wonder how much that goes into mentality too.
• 59:00
  Hey, they might have guys banged up and then it's like, no,
• 59:03
  everybody played with one cap. All right, I want to flip over
• 59:06
  to the defensive side of the ball boys led by Sean Duggan and
• 59:10
  Arzir Abdul Rahim. They are Co defensive
• 59:13
  coordinator unit up at Boston College and so far this year,
• 59:17
  solid overall numbers. For their total defense, they
• 59:22
  ranked 46th. Giving up about 350 yards a
• 59:25
  game, definitely giving up. Better against the past than the
• 59:31
  run. So Brian, what are you seeing
• 59:33
  from this defense? Yeah they there there are four,
• 59:37
  three they'll blitz some what you see from a down line
• 59:43
  perspective. Usually they'll have one guy
• 59:45
  standing up, sometimes both DN standing up.
• 59:49
  They'll they'll blitz pretty regularly, but they usually do
• 59:53
  it on more obvious downs. They're not bringing different
• 59:56
  pressures, varied pressures on 1st and 2nd very often.
• 59:59
  It's usually in those expected passing situations and it's a
• 1:00:03
  lot of cover 3, cover one, mixed in a little cover 6.
• 1:00:07
  So you're going to see those type of coverages pretty
• 1:00:08
  consistently from this team. Solid defense.
• 1:00:12
  Nothing elite about them, but they're very solid.
• 1:00:16
  Kind of at, especially in their front 7.
• 1:00:21
  All righty and no. Normally we'll start with a
• 1:00:23
  linebacker or we'll start with a defensive lineman.
• 1:00:26
  But today, Brian, I wanted to start out with one of the
• 1:00:29
  defensive backs because Elijah Jones is one of the country
• 1:00:34
  leaders in interceptions. He's got 5, which is I think
• 1:00:38
  number six in the country, tied for six in the country because
• 1:00:42
  there's a bunch of guys at 5 and there's only two guys ahead of
• 1:00:44
  that group with a nine and seven.
• 1:00:47
  He's got 25 tackles this year, so obviously seems like a pretty
• 1:00:51
  willing guy. He's forced to fumble 8 past
• 1:00:54
  deflections for Elijah Jones and just a little background on him.
• 1:01:00
  Not heavily recruited out of high school, not heavily
• 1:01:03
  recruited at all out of high school.
• 1:01:05
  Had offers like UMass, Connecticut, Coastal Carolina
• 1:01:08
  from the state of New York, ranked as an 86 in the class of
• 1:01:11
  2018. So he's been around a while.
• 1:01:14
  And Brian? Why does he have so many picks?
• 1:01:19
  Because he's a ball hawk, he's their boundary corner shout out
• 1:01:24
  and and he's he's a ball hawk man.
• 1:01:26
  He's really able to hold up well in zone.
• 1:01:29
  He's also active in their run game, so he'll come up, make
• 1:01:31
  some tackles there as well. Really thrives in man coverage
• 1:01:35
  though and the really the only weakness he has is that he can't
• 1:01:39
  get fooled with a double move. So if you throw that on him,
• 1:01:41
  sometimes you can get guys open. Down the field for a big play
• 1:01:45
  but yeah he he's a guy that whether it's man or zone he can
• 1:01:51
  make a make an interception happen.
• 1:01:52
  He's a he's definitely a playmaker and a ball hog and you
• 1:01:55
  know we we LED with the with the corner back here number one he's
• 1:01:59
  a boundary corner #2. I mean this.
• 1:02:01
  Y'all this is our 4th year doing this podcast.
• 1:02:03
  Y'all didn't need to hear about fucking Vinnie De Palma one more
• 1:02:06
  fucking time. Or there was one other one on
• 1:02:09
  there. Who was it?
• 1:02:10
  Hold on, Cam Arnold. Cam Arnold also graced it twice.
• 1:02:16
  Cam Arnold graced it twice. So I had to mix that up and pull
• 1:02:19
  somebody else. And then again, you see a guy
• 1:02:21
  that has five interceptions and you look at where he ranks like
• 1:02:24
  you've got to go. Look at him.
• 1:02:26
  That's one. As soon as I saw the numbers,
• 1:02:27
  I'm like, I don't care if he's got like 4 in one game or three
• 1:02:30
  in one game. That guy's doing something right
• 1:02:33
  in that case. Yeah, two against Georgia Tech
• 1:02:35
  and he had two against Syracuse. And Syracuse's quarterback.
• 1:02:39
  So Syracuse's quarterback was just throwing the ball to him.
• 1:02:41
  So the. First one was awful.
• 1:02:45
  He's the worst. Quarterback I ever watched play
• 1:02:47
  he. Recognized the one-on-one
• 1:02:48
  coverage, but so Jones had inside position and he just.
• 1:02:53
  He threw it almost to the damn middle of the field, like he
• 1:02:55
  gave his receivers zero chance to get there.
• 1:02:58
  And you know what's crazy is because, and I know we're
• 1:03:00
  getting off a little bit, but Syracuse's backup quarterback
• 1:03:05
  was like a four-star. Maybe like a 92 guy coming out
• 1:03:09
  of high school went to Florida transferred from Florida to
• 1:03:12
  Syracuse. Horrible.
• 1:03:15
  Maybe it was one game, but it was he was the worst game that
• 1:03:20
  I've it looks. Like dog shit?
• 1:03:22
  Oh my. I think he threw 4 picks.
• 1:03:24
  He may have threw 5. So what are you telling me
• 1:03:27
  before they got that confidence really high against a really bad
• 1:03:31
  quarterback? Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah, I mean, we knocked. We knocked straight out so
• 1:03:37
  straighter didn't play. We messed him up.
• 1:03:39
  Yeah, he didn't play. And that.
• 1:03:41
  That backup quarterback didn't do them no justice.
• 1:03:44
  Shit. And.
• 1:03:46
  And and most of the the The bad thing is I watched the end of
• 1:03:49
  that game as shitty as Syracuse played.
• 1:03:52
  That's what I was just like, hide the game.
• 1:03:55
  How? The hell you can force 4
• 1:03:57
  turnovers. You play against the terrible
• 1:03:59
  backup and you can't win by more than seven and I.
• 1:04:02
  See, I think Robichaud got hurt. Whenever he got killed by that,
• 1:04:07
  either the safety or the outside linebacker when he got hit and
• 1:04:12
  then they looked at it for targeted, but he fumble the
• 1:04:14
  ball. I think that's when he got when
• 1:04:17
  he got banged up. But again, that's just me
• 1:04:21
  digging and looking at stuff. We ain't going to talk about it
• 1:04:24
  till they come on the field. And hell, sometimes it don't
• 1:04:27
  matter with Virginia Tech like you said.
• 1:04:28
  I remember fucking playing Georgia Tech when they had that
• 1:04:32
  stupid ass offense. They bring somebody out of the
• 1:04:34
  stands and put a jersey on them. They rush for two on the yards.
• 1:04:38
  So. If they could run, they were
• 1:04:40
  going to run against us. They're going to run against us.
• 1:04:44
  All right, let's talk about a couple of them.
• 1:04:45
  Like I said, we're we're avoiding the linebacker room
• 1:04:47
  because go look at the old episodes.
• 1:04:49
  Brown will give you a little breakdown on De Palma and
• 1:04:51
  Arnold, who are two of their top linebackers.
• 1:04:53
  Let's talk about George Rooks though.
• 1:04:55
  Brian and I want to talk about George Brooks was.
• 1:04:57
  George Brooks was a pretty highly recruited guy when he
• 1:05:00
  come in, Came out of high school a composite 4 star, a composite
• 1:05:04
  top 200 or top 300 player. He originally committed to
• 1:05:08
  Michigan, then transferred to Boston College from there.
• 1:05:13
  And even when he transferred, he was still considered a pretty
• 1:05:16
  high prospect, still ranked at an 87 and so far this year, not
• 1:05:21
  having great numbers. But again, you start doing a
• 1:05:24
  little reading and it's like, OK, he's kind of a key part of
• 1:05:27
  this offense because all he's got this year's 22 tackles, sack
• 1:05:31
  and a half, 1/4 fumble. But Brian, what is he doing
• 1:05:35
  that? That really caught our eye while
• 1:05:38
  we want to talk about him. Active and strong hands, this
• 1:05:42
  guy is. He pops on the film as soon as
• 1:05:46
  if you if you're looking at technique he just pops right
• 1:05:49
  away like everything he does is very sound, does a great job
• 1:05:54
  penetrating the line of scrimmage.
• 1:05:56
  Doesn't get moved in the double team.
• 1:05:58
  Knows those when to get down crawl through the double team.
• 1:06:02
  I mean, he does everything very well and he's deceptively quick,
• 1:06:07
  so sometimes, you know, if you're not communicating
• 1:06:09
  properly, he'll slip in the backfield, can make a play
• 1:06:12
  there, tackle for loss. I'd say he's better against the
• 1:06:15
  run than he's not so much of A pass rusher, but he will impact
• 1:06:19
  there as well. But he's definitely a guy that
• 1:06:22
  you have to account for every damn time you line up because he
• 1:06:26
  will make some plays. Well, first of all Robbie had a
• 1:06:30
  had a chime in real quick on that.
• 1:06:34
  So they forced 6 turnovers and still lost.
• 1:06:37
  That's a bad way to go out, man. That's.
• 1:06:39
  Tough. That hurts the heart.
• 1:06:41
  Man, that does hurt the heart. Man So as good as Rooks is
• 1:06:44
  because Rooks is on the inside, he is AD tackle right?
• 1:06:47
  Is he? Is he three primary or does he
• 1:06:49
  kind of move around a little bit?
• 1:06:50
  He moves. Around, but he's primarily 3,
• 1:06:52
  OK. So we could see him all over the
• 1:06:54
  inside of the line, which is very interesting to see.
• 1:06:57
  I go from there and I go to the one of the guys on the outside
• 1:07:01
  here and that is Donovan Izaruku.
• 1:07:05
  Yep, I butchered that close. Enough.
• 1:07:07
  I apologize. Nothing about it I wouldn't
• 1:07:09
  even. Try it.
• 1:07:09
  You wouldn't even try. 39 tackles so far, 2 sacks, 5
• 1:07:14
  tackles for loss, force, fumble, pass deflection.
• 1:07:17
  So obviously every time I see a defensive line with a pass
• 1:07:20
  deflection that tells me they get their hands up.
• 1:07:22
  I hate that so much. Hate it so much unless we're
• 1:07:24
  doing it. But again, a very, very under
• 1:07:28
  recruited guy out of, you know, out of high school in the class
• 1:07:32
  of 21 like Bucknell, Columbia, Elon, Fordham, Harvard, Holy
• 1:07:37
  Cross, Holy Cross, who almost beat BC just a few weeks ago.
• 1:07:43
  Kidd is from the state of New Jersey, a 83 when he came out.
• 1:07:49
  And Brian, he's coming off the edge.
• 1:07:53
  Are you going to be worried if he's lined up to the right side
• 1:07:56
  of our line? I mean, he's got pretty good
• 1:07:59
  speed. He's not necessarily your your
• 1:08:01
  prototypical pass rusher, but I like his speed.
• 1:08:05
  It's really more. He's got great instincts in the
• 1:08:07
  running game, you know, he knows where to be.
• 1:08:11
  He kind of gets a good feel of what the offensive line is
• 1:08:14
  trying to do and how he can kind of get by.
• 1:08:16
  He's really not shedding a lot of blocks.
• 1:08:19
  He's not. He's he's not using his hands in
• 1:08:21
  the same way that Rooks is, but he's just really good at.
• 1:08:27
  Kind of avoiding those blocks, using his instincts, getting in
• 1:08:29
  position where you can get those tackles, those tackles for loss
• 1:08:32
  and things like that. So that that's really his bread
• 1:08:34
  and butter. He's not a good pass rusher,
• 1:08:38
  he's just average, but but he is an impact player in the running
• 1:08:43
  game, so that's something that we have to pay attention to.
• 1:08:46
  All right. So let's talk about the Hokie
• 1:08:50
  keys, because we got quite a few things here.
• 1:08:52
  And Tally, I'm going to let you lead it off here.
• 1:08:55
  What's going to be your big key this week for the Hokies?
• 1:09:00
  Kind of what we talked about earlier, man.
• 1:09:02
  I mean, we just need to see the team that we've been seeing at
• 1:09:05
  home, you know, we need to go in, listen to Baja, man, before
• 1:09:09
  the game. Fucking let the dogs out, you
• 1:09:12
  know? Come on now, we got to go in
• 1:09:15
  here and we got to play. There's nothing to hold back
• 1:09:18
  for. There's nothing that we need to
• 1:09:20
  be thinking about. You know, we keep talking one
• 1:09:22
  and O. Don't worry about the next game.
• 1:09:25
  Go win this game. This is the game.
• 1:09:28
  There's no more games. Go win this one.
• 1:09:31
  Throw everything. You got to throw at it.
• 1:09:33
  Don't hold anything back. Don't go in there with that
• 1:09:36
  pussyfooting around letting people push you around.
• 1:09:39
  If they get in your face, you get back in their face.
• 1:09:41
  I mean, go play football, go play with genie, Tech football,
• 1:09:45
  all of the stuff that we had seen us doing.
• 1:09:47
  Just go do that. Build on that.
• 1:09:50
  All right. Brian, what's some of the stuff
• 1:09:52
  you've got? Counter punch quickly.
• 1:09:56
  Because if we don't come out and we're not let the dogs out the
• 1:09:59
  gate there, as Tally mentioned, we need to make sure that what
• 1:10:05
  if our script isn't working, if if we go out there and we have a
• 1:10:10
  bad offensive series or we go out there and we let them, you
• 1:10:13
  know, run 12 plays and get a touchdown ball up the game plan,
• 1:10:17
  get to something different quicker.
• 1:10:19
  Let's figure it out. Within one or two drives instead
• 1:10:23
  of four to five drives or six or seven drives, let's figure out
• 1:10:26
  what they're doing. Let's be quicker with those
• 1:10:28
  adjustments and let's not let them dictate the terms that
• 1:10:34
  whole first, second quarter. At some point we need to start
• 1:10:37
  dictating the terms on the road and make them have to play our
• 1:10:41
  game A. 100 percent. I've got AI.
• 1:10:45
  Got a couple here if y'all want to chime in with a couple I
• 1:10:47
  wrote down. I think y'all probably feel
• 1:10:49
  them. My big one is do not give up
• 1:10:52
  sacks at his team. Do not, I swear to God if they
• 1:10:56
  have more than one. Heck if I don't get mad at one.
• 1:11:00
  This team has 11 sacks all year, APR has 9.
• 1:11:05
  By himself. They are 123rd in the country.
• 1:11:08
  Do not give up fucking sacks. And y'all we.
• 1:11:12
  We see how it always turns our team up.
• 1:11:14
  My second big one, what we did at Syracuse, and I know
• 1:11:18
  Castellanos is a different runner.
• 1:11:20
  Clog the escape lanes. Garrett Schrader didn't know
• 1:11:23
  what to do when he didn't have an escape lane.
• 1:11:26
  Castellanos is going to do the same thing.
• 1:11:27
  We get those escape lanes and he's chucking the ball.
• 1:11:29
  It's not going to be one, it's not going to be two.
• 1:11:31
  He's going to throw 3 picks. Anything else?
• 1:11:34
  Y'all got no. I was.
• 1:11:36
  I mean, you hit it perfect, man. When you talk about the not
• 1:11:40
  giving up sacks and and like Brian said earlier, their
• 1:11:43
  quarterback is there what that offense is going to run through.
• 1:11:47
  You know, as he goes, they go clog those lanes up.
• 1:11:50
  Let's go in here, play Virginia Tech football, let's get back
• 1:11:53
  home with a win. Yep.
• 1:11:54
  And I I'll chime in the last one.
• 1:11:56
  Get them behind the six man. Let's get some tackles for loss.
• 1:11:59
  Let's get them. And down in distances where
• 1:12:02
  Castellanos has to be a drop back quarterback and not a dual
• 1:12:06
  threat running quarterback with the option off that play action.
• 1:12:11
  If we can get them in obvious passing situations, we can tee
• 1:12:14
  off, we can stay in those rush lanes, we can get them off the
• 1:12:17
  field in the one point what Alex said.
• 1:12:19
  With those tackle for losses, when you get them three yards
• 1:12:21
  and you slam behind a lot of scrimmage and let them know
• 1:12:24
  about it, yeah. Don't help them up, let them
• 1:12:26
  know about. Don't help them up, walk away
• 1:12:28
  and well, don't get the penalty because y'all know we'll scream
• 1:12:31
  at somebody up there. Don't.
• 1:12:32
  Stand over them. We've already had one.
• 1:12:34
  Don't do that. Just walk away and shake your
• 1:12:36
  head and be like, all right, so let's move on.
• 1:12:41
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  I actually looked at some basketball this week, got out
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  Jason Long. I wonder how much he'll do.
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  And I looked at assists because Ona tomorrow night, Boston and
• 1:13:01
  Phillies playing. And so I'm looking over here.
• 1:13:04
  They got Jason Tatum at 4 assists.
• 1:13:06
  He ain't getting 4 assists. That man trying to go for 40
• 1:13:08
  tomorrow night. And it was one more I got here,
• 1:13:11
  my second one. Where'd it go?
• 1:13:13
  Where'd it go? Oh, shoot.
• 1:13:16
  Where'd he go? I'm mad about this.
• 1:13:17
  It was a one. I was like, that's the one I'm
• 1:13:19
  going to bet on. I'm effort in here.
• 1:13:21
  Hold on, Hold on, hold on, hold on.
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• 1:13:28
  I should have clicked on both. And I didn't click on the second
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  one here. Oh, Russell Westbrook.
• 1:13:38
  They're playing Brooklyn 5 assists.
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  Yeah, we're we're sharing it now here.
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  Right there. Easy to go.
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  All right. I didn't get a chance to
• 1:14:07
  calculate last week. It won't.
• 1:14:09
  Good because Oklahoma lost. We all picked Oklahoma and they
• 1:14:13
  had points. Well, I think we all got
• 1:14:15
  Washington, right. It was not pretty.
• 1:14:18
  It was not pretty. You should have faded the
• 1:14:19
  Boundary Corner podcast last week and I don't know about this
• 1:14:23
  week. Let's talk about the Let's talk
• 1:14:27
  about this game boys. Brian, I'll let you lead it off
• 1:14:29
  here how you feel as we Whoa, I got small.
• 1:14:32
  I did get small. How you feeling, by the way, if
• 1:14:36
  y'all haven't been paying attention out there.
• 1:14:38
  This line started at 4 1/2 two days ago.
• 1:14:41
  It has sworn 6 points in two days.
• 1:14:45
  I've never seen anything like that.
• 1:14:48
  Yeah, you don't see Lions swing six points.
• 1:14:50
  You've seen they got. Some they got some people hurt,
• 1:14:53
  man. They got to have some people
• 1:14:55
  hurt. Robichaud must not be going,
• 1:14:57
  man. Yeah, I should see.
• 1:14:59
  Well, again, this is just board talk.
• 1:15:01
  This is just board talk. That's saying Robichaud and
• 1:15:04
  brooms hurt. All right, we'll see.
• 1:15:06
  All right, Brian, what's your prediction for this game?
• 1:15:12
  I got the Hokies. I got the Hokies winning.
• 1:15:17
  This is, this is the game where we got a nut up or shut up
• 1:15:19
  because, you know, at some point.
• 1:15:23
  This is the type of team that you got to go out there and beat
• 1:15:25
  every time you play them. I got the Hokies winning 2717.
• 1:15:30
  All righty, I'm going to go next and let let let Tally close out.
• 1:15:33
  What are you doing with that screen, man?
• 1:15:34
  You were messing me up. If I was drunk, I'd be all.
• 1:15:37
  Screwed up. We're good.
• 1:15:38
  Now it's settled. It's settled.
• 1:15:40
  I don't know what the hell was going on, but we're good now.
• 1:15:42
  All right. So Brian, I like to nut up or
• 1:15:45
  shut up. That's a great one here.
• 1:15:47
  And this is truly one of the mid ACC teams we've beaten.
• 1:15:50
  The bad we have, we've been three of the bad, this is truly
• 1:15:54
  one of them is they're three and two.
• 1:15:56
  There's six and three overall. They lost in Northern Illinois.
• 1:15:59
  They should have lost the Holy Cross.
• 1:16:02
  I would like to see us really blow them out.
• 1:16:04
  I don't think we quite blow them out, but I think we win this
• 1:16:07
  game. I think at the fourth quarter
• 1:16:10
  Tally's able to call us and breathe.
• 1:16:12
  Tech 28, Boston College 16. Tally, what are you thinking?
• 1:16:18
  You know what, man? Starting it out, I said.
• 1:16:22
  We're going to beat them by 14 points.
• 1:16:23
  We're going to go up there. You know, maybe it was good for
• 1:16:26
  us to get our heads beat in so we would have a little bit of
• 1:16:29
  different mindset going up there.
• 1:16:30
  We're going to go up there and we're going to show them who's
• 1:16:33
  boss. I ain't going to say that
• 1:16:34
  though. Right here on the BCP big screen
• 1:16:38
  is, I'm going to say, Boston College.
• 1:16:40
  I. Hope they put I hope they put my
• 1:16:42
  face up in the locker room and say this motherfucker picks us
• 1:16:45
  to lose. I'm picking Boston College to
• 1:16:47
  win. I hope I'm bullet bulletin board
• 1:16:49
  material and. Everybody jumps on me on Twitter
• 1:16:53
  because I'm picking Boston College, but I'm picking Boston
• 1:16:55
  College. You know why?
• 1:16:57
  Because I can't. I've seen us get our fucking ass
• 1:16:59
  kicked last week and I don't think nobody was mad about it.
• 1:17:02
  So coaching staff, prove me wrong.
• 1:17:06
  Go up there and show people you can run on the road.
• 1:17:08
  Go up there and show people you got some nuts.
• 1:17:11
  There you go. All righty.
• 1:17:13
  I don't know if you got something from Shelton.
• 1:17:16
  I know he's been, he said. Tech.
• 1:17:18
  You got tech. All right.
• 1:17:20
  No score prediction? No score prediction, just tech.
• 1:17:24
  Shelton also was out in the Midwest for the better part of
• 1:17:28
  this weekend, so it's luckily we were able to get in touch with
• 1:17:31
  him at all. Shelton has been went from under
• 1:17:33
  the weather to on the road in Tulsa, so oh.
• 1:17:36
  Yeah, he moving it. He moving and grooving.
• 1:17:38
  All righty, let's roll it up here and let's get to.
• 1:17:43
  Our big screeners. Lots of fun games this weekend.
• 1:17:45
  Lots of implication, by the way. Y'all I know I did.
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  I did not get a chance to see the playoff picture come out
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  tonight. Y'all imagine a year from now.
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  And just, I mean, y'all, we hope the Hokies are in these
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  conversations next year. But legitimately, I think
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  anybody with a number, even 20, like early 20s, if they went out
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  next year, you got a shot to go play for a national title.
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  And. Everybody's sitting here.
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  It's like this isn't going to help the sport.
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  It's watering down the sport. Brian, what's the what's the
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  Line from Shawshank Redemption? Hope man.
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  Hope it's a dangerous thing and what it's going to do is keep us
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  watching the TV closer. But let's start Ole Miss,
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  Georgia. This is Tally's big Screener of
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  the Week Georgia laying 10 1/2. What are we thinking, Tally?
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  I think I'm going to go to Georgia, man.
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  You know, I I kept leaning towards going Ole Miss because I
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  do like some of the stuff that Lane Kiffin does.
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  But I just think Georgia, I don't think Georgia's going to
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  get really tested into the SEC game.
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  The SEC Championship, excuse me, SEC Championship is where I
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  think they may falter. I think they're going to take
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  this game. All righty.
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  Shelton rode right with you, Tally E rode with you and I'm
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  riding against Brian, you with her against I'm.
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  Going the other way as well, this game is going to come down
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  to the wire. Lane's got them playing pretty
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  good. I feel like they're in This game
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  is going to be like a six or seven point victory for Georgia,
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  but Olvis is going to give them all they want.
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  I'm, I'm with Brian on this. I think Olmus is going to give
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  them all they want. Missouri was able to move the
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  ball on them and I know that's a chance for Georgia to fix it,
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  but Lane's a mastermind at that. Now they going to give up some
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  points, but I think Brian it's like a six or seven point game,
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  10 1/2 too much to lay here. All righty, this is my big
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  Screener of the week. Yep it's at 12.
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  At the same time I'll be going multi TV, potentially Penn State
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  at Penn State. Michigan, Michigan.
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  Laying five with all the shit that's going on at Michigan
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  right now with the Connor Stallions, the potential they're
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  saying they might fire Harbaugh, by the way.
• 1:20:07
  What are they really doing that none of these other teams are
• 1:20:10
  doing? Realistically I.
• 1:20:14
  Don't know, man. They just, you know what, you
• 1:20:17
  know what it is. I love what somebody said.
• 1:20:19
  And I'm not trying to defend him.
• 1:20:21
  What Harbaugh say about the TV money?
• 1:20:22
  You know what he said about TV money?
• 1:20:26
  What he said. Players deserve part of that TV
• 1:20:28
  money. Oh yeah, they got.
• 1:20:30
  I don't like that they got. To get him out of there.
• 1:20:33
  Hey, I get him out of here. But in this game it is in Happy
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  Valley. It is a noon kick.
• 1:20:39
  I do not know who's going to win and when.
• 1:20:40
  I don't know who's going to win. Give me the home team.
• 1:20:42
  Give me some points. I'll take Penn State tally.
• 1:20:47
  What about you on this one, man? I never like taking Penn State
• 1:20:50
  in anything, but I'm going to take Penn State.
• 1:20:53
  Just like you said, home team. They got a lot going on.
• 1:20:56
  They got the points. Give me Penn State.
• 1:21:00
  All righty. Shelton Shelton's got Michigan.
• 1:21:05
  And you know what? He's right.
• 1:21:06
  He's right. Harbaugh is going to shut out
• 1:21:10
  the noise. They're going to play like the
• 1:21:13
  top three, top two team they are in the country.
• 1:21:16
  They're going to take care of Penn State.
• 1:21:19
  Buy more than five. Buy.
• 1:21:20
  More than five. That's what take care of me, OK?
• 1:21:24
  We going to see what's the score, what's the score, how big
• 1:21:27
  is it? Is he going to lay it on them?
• 1:21:29
  I don't think they'll lay it on, but I think it will be about a
• 1:21:32
  about a 10 point win, 10 point win.
• 1:21:34
  All right. All right, let's roll to the
• 1:21:36
  next one. Brian, your pick for the week.
• 1:21:40
  Mizzou and Tennessee, You know, Mizzou showed me a few things
• 1:21:46
  there with with that Georgia game last week.
• 1:21:49
  I know I kind of rode with them a little bit on that line
• 1:21:51
  because that was a kind of crazy line.
• 1:21:53
  Tennessee only getting one here. Give me Mizzou.
• 1:21:59
  All righty, All righty. I'm going complete opposite of
• 1:22:02
  you because they were in a war against Georgia.
• 1:22:05
  Most teams that play Georgia do not win the week after.
• 1:22:08
  It just seems that way because Georgia beats the crap out of
• 1:22:11
  people and with a one point, basically a pick em game.
• 1:22:15
  Gibby, Tennessee. Well, I mean both of y'all are
• 1:22:22
  pretty knowledgeable. I don't know what pick right, so
• 1:22:24
  I just. Looked at what Brian picked, he
• 1:22:26
  was the last one that did good. And I said I'm going to go with
• 1:22:32
  Brian. I just, I think, I think, I
• 1:22:34
  think Mizzou is going to be pissed.
• 1:22:37
  I mean they had chances in that game against Georgia.
• 1:22:40
  Georgia's probably the best team in college football.
• 1:22:42
  And you know, you throw a pick to a defensive lineman and a
• 1:22:45
  couple other things and game gets blown open.
• 1:22:48
  So I think they're going to come in pissed off, man.
• 1:22:50
  I got to go Mizzou. And Shelton filed it up there
• 1:22:55
  with Tennessee, Said Shelton is riding with Curtis on this one,
• 1:22:59
  right with me on this one. All right, we got a couple more
• 1:23:01
  games here. Let's go out West because it
• 1:23:03
  seems like we always go out West for at least one USC, Oregon,
• 1:23:08
  Oregon laying 15 points. USC coming off that heartbreaker
• 1:23:11
  against Washington, which was an.
• 1:23:14
  I watched a lot of that game. That was a entertaining game to
• 1:23:18
  watch. Yeah, this is Sheldon.
• 1:23:22
  So what's Sheldon saying on this one?
• 1:23:24
  She's laying or taking. Sheldon is out there taking
• 1:23:27
  Oregon here all. Right.
• 1:23:30
  And you know what? Hell yes.
• 1:23:33
  Hell yes, I think. I think that game might have
• 1:23:36
  finally broken USC. Yeah, well, the.
• 1:23:39
  UW game, yeah. Kayla Williams was crying.
• 1:23:42
  It looked like they broken, yeah.
• 1:23:43
  Yeah. So I I think, I think that team
• 1:23:45
  is finally broken. I think you're going to see
• 1:23:47
  some. I mean it's not going to be a
• 1:23:49
  blowout, blowout, but it I think it's going to be like a 17 or 20
• 1:23:54
  point and then. They And then they fired it off
• 1:23:56
  defensive coordinator, too. They did.
• 1:23:58
  But it don't matter. It don't.
• 1:24:00
  It don't matter Whoever the defensive coordinator, I don't
• 1:24:03
  believe Lincoln Riley coaches anything but offense.
• 1:24:05
  I don't think he steps into a room as a head coach.
• 1:24:07
  If he wasn't given superior talent at Oklahoma and USC, he
• 1:24:11
  would have been fired a long time ago.
• 1:24:14
  Oregon by 24. I'm going to say Lincoln rally.
• 1:24:19
  'S on fraud alert. I was.
• 1:24:20
  Going to say I was going to say Oregon by 21, so all right, me
• 1:24:24
  and Tally on the same day they blowing.
• 1:24:26
  The doors off, we finally riding, riding across the board.
• 1:24:28
  First of all, all right last one.
• 1:24:32
  Classic ACC rivalry. Game.
• 1:24:37
  Wide, right One ride right two. All those good games back in the
• 1:24:42
  90s. Some war.
• 1:24:44
  Some fights. Florida State.
• 1:24:46
  Miami 14 1/2, that is a lot of points.
• 1:24:52
  Brian, what are you saying on this one give?
• 1:24:55
  Give me them points, man. I I I think that Florida State
• 1:25:00
  is going to blow the doors off this team.
• 1:25:01
  I think Miami, much like USC, is kind of broken right now and I
• 1:25:08
  feel, I feel like the last few weeks of the season they've
• 1:25:11
  really kind of fallen back to where we thought they would be.
• 1:25:16
  From Jump Street there and I think they've been broken a
• 1:25:18
  little bit. I think FSU is going to bust it
• 1:25:21
  off one a little bit. I I think about another about
• 1:25:23
  1718 point win here. So they'll cover that 14 and a
• 1:25:27
  half, all right. I I'm up next on this one.
• 1:25:30
  This one's at the Doke, so it will be loud.
• 1:25:32
  It will be energized and I think Florida State's going to win the
• 1:25:37
  game. I think they're going to win by
• 1:25:39
  like 14. So if this was 13 1/2 I would
• 1:25:43
  have won the other way. That hook is what got me.
• 1:25:46
  Curtis said the hook brought him back, Brought me back.
• 1:25:48
  Maybe the hook brought me back. But if if if Cristobal can't get
• 1:25:55
  them up to play this game because they look flat against
• 1:25:58
  NC State, they looked so flat. If he can't get him up for this
• 1:26:01
  game, he might not have a job come December.
• 1:26:06
  Yeah, I kind of, I kind of feel like, Curtis said.
• 1:26:09
  You know if it would have been just 13 1/2 I probably would
• 1:26:12
  have would have took Florida State.
• 1:26:14
  But I don't know. I know Florida State's wide
• 1:26:17
  receiver room's been banged up. Neither one of the top wide
• 1:26:21
  receivers played last week. I don't know if they go this
• 1:26:24
  week. I do know Miami has the athletes
• 1:26:27
  to play with them. I still think Florida State
• 1:26:30
  wins, but I think it may be about, you know, 13 or 14 and
• 1:26:34
  not 15. So I'll take Miami on this and.
• 1:26:40
  Shelton is riding with me on this one with Florida State.
• 1:26:44
  Very, very entertaining. Only one outright and multiple.
• 1:26:48
  No 3 way agrees. If I was, if I was anybody
• 1:26:52
  watching Boundary Corner, I would put my money on the
• 1:26:55
  Trojans this week. Because all of us.
• 1:26:58
  Bet on you better go the other way.
• 1:27:03
  Go the other way like we agree it's not hey.
• 1:27:05
  We were right on dub last week, though, so we were right.
• 1:27:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take that to the back they got.
• 1:27:09
  A Heisman one on they team. I guess USC got a Heisman one on
• 1:27:12
  they team too. So true, man.
• 1:27:14
  That's true. All right, boy, is anything
• 1:27:15
  broken in the last hour and 90 minutes here?
• 1:27:19
  My heart thinking about that last week game against
• 1:27:21
  Louisville, Yeah, I see that my heart won't broken as soon as I
• 1:27:25
  watch the first few plays and the way we look.
• 1:27:27
  He was like, let's do something else.
• 1:27:29
  Let me go play with the kids. Well, the.
• 1:27:31
  Well, The thing is, a couple neighbors came over, watched it
• 1:27:34
  in the garage with the kids. So you know, when he got 21, it
• 1:27:37
  was just kind of like you. You know, we all done it, right?
• 1:27:41
  Yeah, we've all had the coping. Where you see we ain't going to
• 1:27:43
  win this game. I'm going to go ahead and start
• 1:27:45
  my coping. Now get it out by the time
• 1:27:48
  dinner started. My wife made a delicious potato
• 1:27:50
  soup last Saturday night. Hit the spot, The game was over,
• 1:27:54
  I was eating and I was like, this tastes great.
• 1:27:57
  It's a couple good games on late.
• 1:27:59
  Go have myself a nice Coors banquet.
• 1:28:04
  Not. A sponsor, not a sponsor, but
• 1:28:08
  but Brian, we got Tally. I won't let Brian tell you what
• 1:28:12
  he had to do because he was in Blacksburg at Hokie House.
• 1:28:15
  Brian, what did you do? So I cut it.
• 1:28:19
  I cut it off as soon as like, as soon as they we got up.
• 1:28:22
  Well, we got down 14. I was like, all right, let's
• 1:28:25
  head back to the hotel. Head back to the hotel.
• 1:28:28
  We had dinner reservations at 7. At 622, NI was like, yeah, I'm
• 1:28:34
  not going to, I'm not going to interfere with that potential
• 1:28:37
  day. Let's go back to the hotel.
• 1:28:38
  Let's hang out, get showers, get ready for dinner.
• 1:28:42
  I can still watch game. This won't be in reach of any
• 1:28:46
  significant amount of alcohol. I will.
• 1:28:47
  Not Jerry Binding alcohol. I will not.
• 1:28:49
  I will not take this any further than I I've already taken it.
• 1:28:52
  So yeah, it's the way we do it. All right, Well, boys, that does
• 1:28:56
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