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Planned strikes paused as U.S. and Iran agree to MOU, tentative deal · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: Breaking news is always preferable to that which is being
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  Speaker 1: recycled elsewhere. So let me bring it up to speed
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  Speaker 1: on a day full of news, actually twenty four hours
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  Speaker 1: full of news. When I signed off last night, I
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  Speaker 1: speculated that planes were in the air over run, and
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  Speaker 1: in fact they were in the air over run. Not
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  Speaker 1: only that, not only planes, but more than forty Tomawk
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  Speaker 1: missiles were fired. And Tomawk missiles are precison, they're deadly.
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  Speaker 1: So we rattled the teeth of the rump regime in Iran,
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  Speaker 1: the remnants of the Iranian Revolutionary guardcorep that it consists
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  Speaker 1: of Thehiti if he's alive. We don't know if he's
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  Speaker 1: alive or not. He was pulled out of retirement once
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  Speaker 1: Hamini one point zero and everybody else in the leadership
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  Speaker 1: was killed in the first initial strike on February twenty eighth,
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  Speaker 1: so we didn't know what had happened. But last night
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  Speaker 1: we were in fact hammering Iran. That was the third
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  Speaker 1: serien of the hammer blows in a week. Israel hit
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  Speaker 1: them first after Israel responded to a Hesbala attack in
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  Speaker 1: that reached northern Israel. Isuel reached into northern Lebanon, hit
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  Speaker 1: bea route. Then Iran struck This is in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of a seafire. Then Iran struck Israel Prime Minister Yau.
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  Speaker 1: President Trump talked. President Trump said, do what you have
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  Speaker 1: to do, and what Israel did was a big wave
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  Speaker 1: of hits over the weekend. Come forward to Monday. President
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  Speaker 1: Trump says, we got to get serious. We got to
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  Speaker 1: get a deal. What are you going to do Iran?
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  Speaker 1: Iran shoots at an Apache helicopter, brings it down, does
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  Speaker 1: not kill an American. That's the best thing that's happened
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  Speaker 1: to Iran a long time. But they brought down our Apache.
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  Speaker 1: An unmanned drone went and got the two pilots. They're fine.
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  Speaker 1: President says, enough. We hit them on Tuesday and Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 1: hit them very hard as I said forty plus Tom
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  Speaker 1: Mack missiles last night, in addition to any other strikes
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  Speaker 1: all over Irun, but primarily along the straight of Horn News.
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  Speaker 1: So this morning begins with Fox and Friends. President Trump
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  Speaker 1: calls Fox and Friends to talk through what happened last night,
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  Speaker 1: and he says this cut number one.
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  Speaker 2: Will it be more bombing tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be more bombing tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be a.
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  Speaker 3: Bigger, bigger, more powerful. Don't forget that.
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  Speaker 1: That's quite a message. There will be more bombing tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It will be bigger, it will be bigger. And then
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  Speaker 1: he adds in the conversation with the Fox and Friends trio,
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  Speaker 1: cut numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Seven estimated is decimated, and they're dying to make a deal.
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  Speaker 3: They want to make it deal so badly, and they're
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  Speaker 3: really in submission. They just don't know it yet. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: to be honest with you, they just don't know it yet.
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  Speaker 3: And we are talking to him and all, but you
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  Speaker 3: know what, Look, my preference has always been take carg Island.
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  Speaker 1: The President says, we're going to hit him hard tonight,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to take carg Island. That's my preference. Immediately,
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  Speaker 1: everyone thinks, including me, this is what the Iranians have
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  Speaker 1: never figured out about Donald Trump. Don't play him. I
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  Speaker 1: thought they had missed their off round. Speaker Johnson may
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  Speaker 1: have been more in the loop than anyone, because he
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  Speaker 1: was caught coming down the steps of the Capitol and
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  Speaker 1: asked about the president's re mars this morning. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson said, Cut number nine.
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  Speaker 4: Negotiation, and I think he's communicating directly with their adversaries
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  Speaker 4: over there that I would not I would not just
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  Speaker 4: want to put too much stock in the details of
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  Speaker 4: that rady.
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  Speaker 2: But in the middle of this important would you have
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  Speaker 2: what was ch Congress of a vote before he does that?
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  Speaker 4: Got to take a photo here.
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  Speaker 1: So the speaker was saying, the President's rhetoric is directed
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  Speaker 1: to Iran, and it got through. About an hour and
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes ago. The President posted on True Social this
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  Speaker 1: based on the fact that discussions with the Islamic Republic
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  Speaker 1: of Iran have been brought to the highest level of Iranian
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  Speaker 1: leadership and approved. I have as president, the United States
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  Speaker 1: canceled the scheduled strikes and bombings against Iran this evening.
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  Speaker 1: Discussions and final points have been in both concept and
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  Speaker 1: great detail, approved by all parties involved, including the United States, Israel,
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  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Cutter, Turkey, Pakistan, Bahrang, Kuwait, Jordan, Egypt,
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  Speaker 1: and others. Trump said the US naval blockade will remain
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  Speaker 1: in full force in effect until this transaction is finalized.
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  Speaker 1: Time and place of the signing to be announced shortly now.
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  Speaker 1: Not long after the president posted that, denials began to
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  Speaker 1: emerge from Iran far As News Agency Faers is affiliated
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  Speaker 1: with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, and they said, no,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't agreed to anything. Out of the Times of
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  Speaker 1: Israel comes as senior, unnamed Israeli official saying we haven't
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  Speaker 1: signed a deal, and so I don't know, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't know, and nobody knows what's going on. Did the
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  Speaker 1: president just do another head fake? What do the markets think?
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  Speaker 1: That tells us a lot? Sometimes? The Dow right now
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  Speaker 1: is up one point seventy three percent, the S and
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  Speaker 1: P is up one and a half percent, the Nasdaq
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  Speaker 1: is up almost two percent, and the price of oil
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  Speaker 1: is now at eighty seven dollars and sixty five cents.
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  Speaker 1: That's down two in almost three quarters percent. So the
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  Speaker 1: market believes the president has achieved some kind of accord. Now,
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  Speaker 1: whenever something like this happens, I check on Lindsey Graham's
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  Speaker 1: ex account. And the reason I do that is Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: Graham very serious about Iran. Lindsay Graham is never going
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  Speaker 1: to fall for the fanatics in Iran, promises, and he
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  Speaker 1: writes that I hope we have, in fact, he said
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  Speaker 1: this about fifteen minutes ago. I hope we have in
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  Speaker 1: fact reached a diplomatic solution to in the Iranian conflict
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  Speaker 1: that will meet President Trump's red lines and fundamentally and
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  Speaker 1: be fundamentally different from the JCPOA. As in the past,
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  Speaker 1: any agreement reached with Iran related to their nuclear program
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  Speaker 1: will be presented to Congress for review and approval. I
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  Speaker 1: look forward to that process. That's reserved. So I want
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  Speaker 1: to remind you about the basic facts, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: know anything beyond what the President has said. The fact
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  Speaker 1: that we struck them to nights in around and Israel
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  Speaker 1: struck them, that Heiti might be dead, but he was
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  Speaker 1: running the regime. Here's what we know for sure. Iran
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  Speaker 1: is run by religious fanatics. It's different than any other
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  Speaker 1: regime against which we are opposed, like China, like North Korea,
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  Speaker 1: like Russia, the Alliance at tyrants have a lot in common,
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  Speaker 1: but they have a lot that separates them. Iran is
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  Speaker 1: run by theocrats, fanatics who believe that violence can bring
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  Speaker 1: about conflict, and conflict bring about the end of the world.
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  Speaker 1: And it begins by destroying Israel, and it begins by
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  Speaker 1: destroying the United States and the West, and that they
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  Speaker 1: don't if they got a nuclear weapon, they would use it.
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  Speaker 1: And they've been ruled by two men until February twenty
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  Speaker 1: eight in the forty seven years of the Iranian Revolution,
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  Speaker 1: the I Toolahamini and the I Toldajamini. The I Tolahameni
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  Speaker 1: was killed on February twenty eighth and the strike that
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  Speaker 1: decapitated the regime. We're not really sure who is running
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  Speaker 1: Iran now. Maybe the CIA is. Maybe John Ratcliffe goes
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  Speaker 1: in there every day and says to the president, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: ha Many is alive and he's breathing, but he's not talking.
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  Speaker 1: Or how Many is talking? Two point zero the son
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  Speaker 1: of Hamani, the gay Ayatola, maybe he is running it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Vahiti. But there were lots of speculation that Dahaiti
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  Speaker 1: was in the wrong place at the wrong time over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend when Israel sent its wildly accurate attacks against Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Iran fired off ten ballistic missiles or twelve, maybe fourteen
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  Speaker 1: ballistic missiles at Israel over the weekend. None of them
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  Speaker 1: hit anything, didn't do any damage. However, Israel when it
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  Speaker 1: fires off stuff, it doesn't miss. So they had a
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  Speaker 1: petrochemical plant. I believe one of the reports is they
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  Speaker 1: may have hit a military base in the heat. He
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  Speaker 1: may have been there. We don't know. We haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: the heating. So we don't know who's running you run.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know who's running these negotiations. But the president,
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  Speaker 1: you can be assure, is on top of every detail
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  Speaker 1: of it and wants a deal that works, that reopens
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  Speaker 1: the straight o'h hor moves and brings down the cost
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  Speaker 1: of oil. Cost of oil is down to eighty eight
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  Speaker 1: barrel dollars of barrel. But his number one priority is redline.
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  Speaker 1: He said to me on this show. He said it
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  Speaker 1: a thousand times. It's not like it's unique to the show.
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  Speaker 1: They may not have a nuclear weapon. We have to
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  Speaker 1: get there enriched uranium. After that, they have to stop
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  Speaker 1: supporting proxies. They have to open up the Strait they've
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  Speaker 1: got to bring relief to the Iranian people. If they
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  Speaker 1: do that, by the way, the regime will fall because
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  Speaker 1: the Iranian people, they are ninety two million Iranians. There
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  Speaker 1: are a quarter million members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Court.
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  Speaker 1: At least that was the estimate at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the forty Day War, which began on February twenty eighth.
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  Speaker 1: Now we've had a forty day battle, a two month ceasefire,
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  Speaker 1: a one week battle, and now attendive ceasefire, an attended deal.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think this is actually going to work? No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I think the President is once again giving
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  Speaker 1: them all the rope they can possibly have to hang
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  Speaker 1: themselves with. But you get this, I mean katars out
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  Speaker 1: there on the ledge. Pakistana's promised to deliver. They've all
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  Speaker 1: got promises from Iran. The president posts that if they
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  Speaker 1: embarrass him end. Do you think he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: willing to do this a third time, because this is
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  Speaker 1: the second time that we've called off strikes, the first
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  Speaker 1: time at the end of the forty day battle. Then
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  Speaker 1: we've started up a conflict this week, and we've stopped
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  Speaker 1: it again tonight after the President promising even more massive
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  Speaker 1: strikes and carg Island, and now we're not doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Markets are happy and vestors are happy. They would like
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  Speaker 1: oil to go down. That's where we set at three
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  Speaker 1: sixteen on a Thursday afternoon in June. Stay tuned. I'll
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  Speaker 1: bring you more right after this on the Hugewit show.
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  Speaker 5: The war with the rent and we're going to be
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  Speaker 5: a subject to finalization of documents.
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  Speaker 6: We should get done over the next few days. We
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  Speaker 6: probably have a signing, maybe in Europe. And it's a
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  Speaker 6: great thing. Sock markets up a thousand points. That means
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  Speaker 6: they like the deal. See that means they Later the
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  Speaker 6: market goes down, it means they don't like the deal.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been up.
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  Speaker 7: Oil shrupped. Oil will start coming down too. I think
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  Speaker 7: even alone than it was before. Had I said. I
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  Speaker 7: was in Iowa, it was.
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  Speaker 1: One so welcome back Andmerga, I'm doing you at President
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  Speaker 1: Trump announcing in front of Secretary Berghaman and gathering a
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  Speaker 1: fisherman in the oval that the deal will be signed
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  Speaker 1: in a few days. The deal with Iran that merged
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  Speaker 1: after the President announced this morning that we would be
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  Speaker 1: bombing Iran again tonight, maybe taking carg Island, joining me
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  Speaker 1: to discuss that. Eleana Johnson ele On is editor in
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  Speaker 1: chief of the Washington Free Beacons. She's a regular participant
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  Speaker 1: in the commentary panel, and maybe she's not as be
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  Speaker 1: fuddled as I am. I don't know how it could
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  Speaker 1: possibly have come together this fast, Eleana, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think about this?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I'm with you, Hugh.
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  Speaker 9: This sounds a lot like what we've heard from the
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  Speaker 9: President for the past. You know, since since the ceasefire
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  Speaker 9: in April eighth, we've been hearing almost every day that
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  Speaker 9: we'll have a deal in the next few days, and
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  Speaker 9: so I'm not convinced this is anything different. I think
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  Speaker 9: the most candid thing the President said was two days
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  Speaker 9: ago when he said that the Iranians are tapping us
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  Speaker 9: along and playing us for suckers. By what she would
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  Speaker 9: mean that they're tapping him along and playing him for
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  Speaker 9: a sucker. And I'm a little bit concerned that that's
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  Speaker 9: what's happening with these strikes being called off and I
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  Speaker 9: returned to the negotiating table.
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  Speaker 8: I think the main mistake here is.
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  Speaker 9: Sea sawing between negotiations and military activity. When you see
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  Speaker 9: that the Iranians they did not cease firing and they
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  Speaker 9: are fighting and negotiating at the same time, and I
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  Speaker 9: think that's really what we should be doing if the
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  Speaker 9: President does want to be at the negotiating table.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, here's the best case take, and I've already laid
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  Speaker 1: it out, But the best case take is husbiad Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Over the weekend. Israel responded and that ceasefire went by
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  Speaker 1: the board by striking at Hesbil oppositions in Beyrout, and
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  Speaker 1: Rod responded by attacking Israe. They sent I think fourteen
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  Speaker 1: ballistic missiles at Israel. They none of them hit, many
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  Speaker 1: of them fell apart and landed other places. Israel fired
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  Speaker 1: back after prem Minister and that I talked to President
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  Speaker 1: Trump and Trump said, do what you have to do.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure that Israel hit what they were
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  Speaker 1: aiming at, including a petrochemical and maybe a military base
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  Speaker 1: with Bahiti. Then the Iranians made a mistake, maybe because
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  Speaker 1: of the Mosaic defense, and they shot down an Apache helicopter,
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  Speaker 1: which for the President was a no no. And we
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  Speaker 1: had two waves of attacks on Tuesday and Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 1: and this morning on Fox he says that another one's coming tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Is it possible that one Behadi was killed, and two
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  Speaker 1: someone slightly less fanatical, or even a lot less fanatical, decided,
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  Speaker 1: this is a lose lose game. Let's do a deal.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best case, isn't it.
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  Speaker 8: That is the best case. A couple of things you won.
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  Speaker 9: I've long thought, you know, our strategy at the beginning
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  Speaker 9: of this war was to degrade the Iranian leadership. It's
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  Speaker 9: clear that you know, we don't know who exactly is
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  Speaker 9: in charge, but it is clear that the IRGC is
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  Speaker 9: calling the shots.
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  Speaker 8: And I think.
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  Speaker 9: Continuing to degrade the leadership in Iran until we get
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  Speaker 9: somebody at the negotiating table who will do the kind
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  Speaker 9: of a deal the president wants. And putting the literal
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  Speaker 9: fear of death in these people is the right way
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  Speaker 9: to go. And by the way, you notice that Israel,
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  Speaker 9: which hit back despite the President's warnings not to, he
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  Speaker 9: his initial reluctance to have them do so, and his
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  Speaker 9: buying into the iraniance framework of tying the hesblah and
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  Speaker 9: activity in Lebanon into these negotiations, Iran did not hit
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  Speaker 9: them again.
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  Speaker 8: I think the downing of the Apache.
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  Speaker 9: Helicopter was a wake up call to the president that
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  Speaker 9: this is not actually a ceasefire. It's a ceasefire in
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  Speaker 9: name only, and that American lives very much remain at
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  Speaker 9: risk in this, you know, in this phony ceasefire, we're
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  Speaker 9: still very much at war.
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  Speaker 1: We are. And whatever document comes out, Lindsey Graham's already posted,
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  Speaker 1: it's got to be presented to the Congress, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got to take a hard look at it. I think
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  Speaker 1: there are some minimum requirements. But what do you think
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  Speaker 1: is the minimum requirement? Or the President will get killed,
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  Speaker 1: I mean killed politically if he signs anything that looks, smells,
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  Speaker 1: or feels like the JCPOA. So that's the starting point.
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  Speaker 1: But what's we know what it can't be. It can't
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  Speaker 1: be the JGPOA. But what must it be?
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  Speaker 9: Well, you i've heard you talking about the president set
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  Speaker 9: a bar at the outset of this conflict, that it
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  Speaker 9: was about removing the nuclear material from Iran. I'm not
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  Speaker 9: exactly sure that needs to happen if we're committed to
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  Speaker 9: going in and bombing anytime we see activity. My concern
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  Speaker 9: about that is that a future president won't be committed
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  Speaker 9: to doing that. I think the minimum right now is
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  Speaker 9: the reopening of the Strait, and i'd like to see
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  Speaker 9: us do that by force, if only to show the
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  Speaker 9: Iranians that we're able to do that and they cannot
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  Speaker 9: close it at a moment's notice, that we are capable
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  Speaker 9: of exerting our will and that they cannot close an
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  Speaker 9: international waterway. It is not a quiver in there, you know,
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  Speaker 9: it's not a tool in their toolbox.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Dubo, It's was here, he'd say, what does the
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  Speaker 1: agreement say about Pickaxe Mountain, which is the next online
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  Speaker 1: the deeper tunnel than Fodor was, Or there are other
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  Speaker 1: ish fashan all the other facility. Pickaxe Mountain is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be so deep that not even our mobs can
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  Speaker 1: get to it. Do you think we need any time
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  Speaker 1: anywhere inspections an Iran is part of a deal that
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  Speaker 1: is acceptable to Republicans.
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  Speaker 9: I do, and I think that's what Lindsay Graham was
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  Speaker 9: getting at there.
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  Speaker 8: And of course you the trouble with.
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  Speaker 9: The inspections is that they rely on Iranian cooperation to
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  Speaker 9: a certain extent of leading us to where this uranium
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  Speaker 9: is buried, of allowing inspectors in. And so when the
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  Speaker 9: President says, you know, we're just a few days, we're
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  Speaker 9: in the fine print. That's always where the trouble comes
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  Speaker 9: up with Iran, and I would refer your.
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  Speaker 8: Listeners to A.
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  Speaker 9: Meet Siegel's wonderful newsletter, where I learned this morning that.
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  Speaker 10: A.
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  Speaker 9: Ragshee, the lead negotiator for Iran, is actually the author
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  Speaker 9: of a book called The Power of Negotiation, in which
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  Speaker 9: he writes essentially about the power of stringing along negotiations
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  Speaker 9: and exhausting the other partner in negotiations. That this is
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  Speaker 9: very much a tactic of Iran, and I hope the
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  Speaker 9: President is acutely aware of that.
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  Speaker 1: I know Secretary of Rubio is, so I'm hoping the
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  Speaker 1: President hears that, but I would like to see before
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  Speaker 1: he signs anything. I sure hope he floats it. So
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  Speaker 1: many bad ideas can be strangled in their cradle. If
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  Speaker 1: they're a bad idea, go ahead.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, I was going to say, I think we're a
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  Speaker 9: long way from, you know, getting a written agreement out
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  Speaker 9: and having pens on paper. I'm a skeptic that we're
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  Speaker 9: anywhere near that.
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  Speaker 8: And you know, I know.
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: The President we heard him at the in the sound
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: that you played at the top of this saying our
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: markets are happy, prices are going to come down. He's
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: very much thinking of this in political terms.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Not a good idea though, Eleianna. All we good to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: see you follow on exit, Eleanna Y Johnson, Stay tuned America,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Mordon Gordon and Grace America. I'm you HERETT live. President
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Trump is taking questions in the Oval Office. Let's join
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that press conference wonderfully.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: But you know what, they've got a chance to build
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: a country. Their country is largely demolished again. Their navy
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: is gone, their air force is gone, their anti aircraft
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: is gone.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: Everything's gone.
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Their leadership is gone many times over, he been many
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: people from this leadership's gone.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: But we found them to be rational, and uh, they
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: gonna make a deal. And I'll tell you what. It's
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: a great deal.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: You know why it's a great deal cause they will
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: never have an intiator one.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: Out of time that have.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: To pass between the net, random and understanding and applying
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: with you'll being done.
• 19:23
  Speaker 11: Well.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: We hope it's gonna go relatively quickly, but I mean
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: the streets are gonna open immediately.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: It's fun signing. Maybe it'll be Saturday nine from this
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: to a final deal.
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: Uh, we think it's gonna go pretty quick, but I
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: don't wanna say it deadline, because if I say it deadline,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: you'll say, oh, he didn't meet the deadline. You know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: this is like it's not gonna matter much because, uh,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: it's gonna get signed and the strangers opened. But the
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: streets have been open for a number of months already,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: and you just didn't know about it. You know, you
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: as reporters, were weren't able to get it. I just
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: announced yesterday that would bring that. We brought a lot
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: of ships, so nobody knew about it. I guess we
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: did a pretty good job either. Rights, but we brought
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: many many ships across and millions, hundreds of millions of
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: barrels of oil right were brought, were brought across is At.
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: And there wasn't a thing that anybody could have done
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: about that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the operational disable or really, well, now it would
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: be we signed this agreement, it would be they weren't
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: so thrilled when they heard that. That's what I would
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: were done. And I just don't think I I like it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Grave look at Venezuela, how well that's worked out. We
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: paid for that war many times over, and uh many
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: many times over. We have millions of barrels of oil
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: from Venezuela going to Houston, and we're working great with
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: the Venezuelan government.
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Couldn't be better. It's a real, it's a.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: Real uh good relationship, really good relationship.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Venezuela has been amazing. This is a larger situation. Uh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: actually less oil. Venezuela has a lot of oil.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: But uh, we think of it. We spent xt dollars.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: We paid for it many many times. What was the
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: last time here? That many times? However, we paid for it.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Do you every think you can see that in this country,
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: we go to wars, we end up with always we
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: end up with just blessing that a lot of people
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: and we come home, nothing happens.
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: Uh, Venezuela was amazing and this is amazing.
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: Are you considering using or dropping an executive order to
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: extend by sour to continue using Section four?
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: What Congress wants me to do and let's see what happens.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: Leadership wants to put out a savments. That's very important,
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: it's very important for our Militaries's.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: President on the State of America.
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: You're in now urging Republicans who have that to this
• 21:42
  Speaker 12: third recostentation to build what's your perspective.
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: Of why your election to interpeting matters so much for
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: national security. From your perspective, well, we needed for our elections.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: We need to have lotor identification, which you know I
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: have right now on a national basis.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: We needed for and the voter idea is very important.
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: We need for proof of citizenship. Do you believe it?
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: The Democrats are fighting. They don't want you to prove
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: your citizenship when you vote. You know why they want
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: that because.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: They achieved And we also wanted mail in voting where
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: you have people that are sent seven eight ballots, two ballots,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: four ballots, and a lot of them signed those ballots.
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: Mail in voting, and we want to be very judicious.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: If you're in the military and you're far away, or
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: if you're handicapped, or if you're sick, or if you're
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: on vacation, that you have but you're not.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Going to millions. And maybe you look at California. They
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: send out millions of ballots, tens of millions. They have
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: no idea what's going on. Those elections are so corrupt.
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: So we have a mail in ballots and we have
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: no men and we had two more no men in
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: women's sports becabout saving America or no men in women's
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: sports another one very popular.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: I think it's ninety nine to one. They say it's
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: eighty twenty. I think it's ninety to one.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: And we have no mutilization of your children for transgender
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: purposes see transgender mutilization of your children?
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: Does that sound good with you? Guys?
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Generally speaking, we've moved off of the deal with Iran.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I want to update you on a couple other things.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Barak revied of actual supporting that behind the scenes negotiations
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: continued late into Wednesday night. Last night in Tehran as
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Katari Envoy Ali Altalati in Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Ragachi
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: worked to bridge the remaining gaps. According to three sources
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: briefed on the talks, the Culies and the Iranians believed
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday that they had reached an agreement on a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: punt a text that the US would accept now a
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: meet Segal moments ago also posted that Iranians have agreed
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to this, that they have been counseled, and Iranian news
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: agency says high chance that the agreement will be approved.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Now that's an Iranian news agency, you assume it's being
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: run by the RGC. I don't know, nobody knows. The
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: President's not saying we'll dip back into the pressure right now.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: What's in the agreement? Only that one is imminent. Let's
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: go back into the press conference.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: Today's another example. You bring in these everyday Americans into
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: the White House is listening to them? How important is
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: it for you to listen to every day americans policy making?
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It's a dumb question. Really, I don't know who they
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: let into the Oval Office. We're dealing with Warren Peace here,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with the lives of the Iranian people. We're
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: dealing with nuclear weapons that Iran would use. And someone
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: says it's nice to have all these everyday Americans in here.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: How important is it to have everyday Americans in here?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Really? Really?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: How about Pickac Mountain? How about what are the the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: sanctions on Iran if they break the deal? How about
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: when do we get the enriched uranium? How do we
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: get the enriched uranium? Have they cut off support Pezbollah?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Who's signing the agreement? Who is their supreme leader? It's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: not hot I mean, maybe it is the gay Iya Toola.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: We don't know how many two point zero maybe it
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: is him. Maybe he has Maybe they are flat on
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: their backs and they just can't keep it together and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they're afraid of their own people. To begin any relief
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: for the Iranian people, I don't know. Let's go back
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to the Oval, see if we get a good question.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: In the United States of American she comes from a
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: place with it, without anything, without anything, probably among the
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: worst countries in the world, and she says the Constitution
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: of the United States protects me. She shouldn't be protected
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: if she honestly, she should be thrown out of the country.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: She's corrupt, and most of the people that came in
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: to corrupt, and the whole.
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: Voting system is corrupted.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: In Minnesota, he's talking about Dwayne. Who do we think
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: he's talking about. That's a random description of one person. Uh,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know. It's elan Omar. It's got
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to be elain Omar.
• 26:12
  Speaker 13: Probably.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you going to cover this on the after
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: show tonight?
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: By the way, absolutely, I'm I'm cutting this. And this
• 26:19
  Speaker 13: gaggle may go in at her twenty minutes and may
• 26:22
  Speaker 13: go in at her hour. We have no clue how
• 26:24
  Speaker 13: long this is going to go. And I don't think
• 26:26
  Speaker 13: they've exhausted the raining questions. I think they're going to
• 26:29
  Speaker 13: keep coming back to it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: We're going to go back to the gaggle now, but
• 26:31
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• 26:43
  Speaker 1: back to the Oval said, did he do a good job?
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: He didn't do a good job. What the hell did
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: he do? I won the election.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: He's an angry man who's very disloyal to John Thune.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: John Thune's a good man. He was a loyal worker
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: for Mitch McCall. He went for Mitch McCall, worked very hard.
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: He was very little to him.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: I disagreed with him a lot because Mitch McConnell gave
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: so much money to Democrats.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: He gave them money. I had to go get the
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: war money from the military.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: I just took it out of the military because that
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: he wouldn't do anything.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: He gave it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: No.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Mitch McConnell's a bad and he's he's.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: I thought he was lousy, a lousy at his But
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: when they gave him the only thing. They gave him
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: a lot of credit for judges. But I'm the one
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: that got the judges. You know why I won the election.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Nobody didn't win the election. He wouldn't have had anything.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Let's top Eric, because I disagree with the president here.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell was the man who won the presidency with
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the president by declaring that after Justice Golia's untimely death,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: there would be no hearings and no votes. Maybe on
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the day that Justice Golli had died or the day after.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Leader McConnell stepped up and said they will be here,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: no hearings and no votes, and that made the Supreme
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Court the key issue that got Donald Trump over the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: finish line in twenty sixteen. I know they don't get along,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: they've never liked each other. That's okay. But he likes
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Johnthun that's even better. Let's go back to the presser.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: Just an imvetiment, but she's there.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: She probably will be a negative vote.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: You have a couple of others. I think Rand Poll's
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: come a long way. Let's see what happens.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: I think Rand Paul likes Save of America. So because
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: Rand Pole is usually a negative vote.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Allry about the Save America Act. Okay, the next time
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I have the President, I will have to talk about
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: this because the Save America Act is not going to pass.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: It's not We're not going to break the filibuster. The
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: last time he was on, he asked me about the philibuster,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and we agree to disagree. I believe in the filibuster.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: He doesn't. The Senate's not going to abandon the filibuster, Johnathan.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It's not going to aband in the philibuster because more
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: than half of the Republican conference does not want to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: abandon the filibuster, and the Democrats certainly don't want to
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: abandon the filibuster. And the Save Act is a good
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: piece of legislation that needs sixty six votes. The way
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: to get sixty votes, the way to get it is
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to win Senate seats and to vote. Time to that,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, America. I'll be right back. If the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: president's still talking, we may talk to him, but I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: got to talk to Bick Maddis about what he thinks
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: about the on deal. Stay tuned, Welcome back, America, I'm
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you YOUA joined by Vic Mattis, who is the co
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: host of the Getting Hammered podcast the Weekend and cultural
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: affairs editor at the Washington Free Beacon, vic I greatly
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the new edition of Getting Hammered. Congratulations on your
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: son's high school graduation. I can understand being.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: A little very much you.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I want to assure you that sadness passes quickly once
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: they get out of the house. Then you're happy with
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the space. And I just want to assure your wife, Kate,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: who got a little miss to you, it will pass.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: You'll be very very pleased in the end.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what I'm excited about is more food for me.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: That's what I look forward to, you know, you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 12: Know the extra portions which I thought, oh, we have
• 29:46
  Speaker 12: a little bit of leftover, or I'll just finish it now,
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: And that happened actually last night. We're getting more and
• 29:51
  Speaker 12: more used to my son being out and about and traveling.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's visiting his in laws right now, and.
• 29:56
  Speaker 12: So, you know, I mean it's kind of an ease
• 29:59
  Speaker 12: into a train position situation.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But I mean, you're right, there's that, and there's less.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I thought your explanation of it's not nostolgist. It's not
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: that the family unit that's gone everywhere and done. Everything
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: is breaking up at least not two quarters of the year.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But once it gets together again back next summer or
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: when he comes back from college, you begin to wonder
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: how long is he until he goes back. That's what's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. So I want to ask you before we
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: get to the piece deal Giordano's. Okay, I don't like
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: any Deep Dish pizza ever since Uno closed, and now
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I heard about your Uno experience. I don't want to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: go there. Where is Giordano's. I want to know about Giordano's.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 30:37
  Speaker 12: George Giordano's is like in the middle of the Penn Quarter.
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: Heugh right here in downtown d c Uh. It's just
• 30:44
  Speaker 12: a few blocks up from the Willard Hotel as a
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: matter of fact, so it's like fourteenth I think, And
• 30:51
  Speaker 12: is up that street.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Is it a chain or is it a one off?
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: No, the original is in Chicago, so that that's an
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: acceptable chain. And if you do, I don't know how
• 31:03
  Speaker 12: you feel about Deep Dish in general, if you don't
• 31:05
  Speaker 12: think about it as competition with actual pizza, but just
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: as this delicious giant cake offering with cheese and tomatoes
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: and things. It's quite lovely. One slice should really do it,
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: but honestly, we could do too.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm an ambivalent Deep Dish person because in northeastern Ohio,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: with the Italian American Committee so thick there, we have
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: many fine choices of pizza, including white pizza. I've always
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: thought Deep Dish to be a kind of American knockoff.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: VIC.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Do you believe this deal that the President is talking
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: about good idea or bad? I could it possibly have
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: come together over last night?
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: I would like to believe that there is some form
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: of a deal in the offing. It would be amazing
• 31:48
  Speaker 12: if any of this were true, involving the other states
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: in the region, and it sort of expanded Abraham Accords
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: as in return for opening up the Strait.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: We don't know the details right now.
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: You're hearing from other news sources that the Iranians are
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: saying that they don't have any sense of a deal
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: or they don't know what the president is talking about.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: My biggest fear, Hue, is that.
• 32:10
  Speaker 12: This is becoming more and more a situation of the
• 32:12
  Speaker 12: Boy who Cried Wolf. That every time the economic situation
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: becomes dire or just even a little bit uncomfortable for
• 32:20
  Speaker 12: the president. He's going to say we have some deal
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: in the offing, and whenever that happens, you actually do
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: see the price of oil go down and the stock
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: market go up. But I think that you can only
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: do that so many times. On the other hand, somebody
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: told me that there's just as much a possibility that.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: He says there's a deal going on, and then you
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: know tonight.
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: He takes care of all family businesses, they say in
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: The Godfather. I'd like to believe that, but I feel
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: very frustrated right now that we've been in this sort
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: of limbo situation for way too long, and as Mike
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: Pompei and others have said, there is only one way
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: out of this, and that's to finish the job.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So I want to relate what Marika he just posted
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: nine minutes ago from Israeli Prime Minister of Benjamin Netanyah,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: who's office President Trump spoke this evening with Prime Minister
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Netniello about the emerging memorandum of understanding with Iran for
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: entry and negotiations. So it's not a final deal, it's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: for entry and negotiations. Although Israel not a party to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: the memorandum of understanding. The Prime Minister expressed his appreciation
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: for the President's Trump's commitment to the final agreement at
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the conclusion of negotiations will include the removal of the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: enriched material, the dismantling of the enrichment infrastructure, the limitation
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: of missile production, and the cessation of Iran support for
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: its terrorist proxies and the reason in the region. So
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I read that as Nettno's trying to put on down
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: the red lines he wants. But I'm not sure President
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Trump agreed to that. Do you think that's right?
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: No, again, I'm skeptical about that. And I know that
• 33:54
  Speaker 12: you know, there's a temptation to just want to get
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: a deal for the sake of a deal. You know,
• 33:57
  Speaker 12: that sounds very familiar. This happened in a previous administration.
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: And at the same time, Israel has to respond to
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: the rockets being fired by Hesbolah, and i Ran is
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: using that as a sort of leverage, saying that, well,
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: if you want a deal, you got to tell Israel
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: to tamp it down and just sit there and take it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: That's not going to happen either, Hugh.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: So again I'm doubtful about that. I think that's too
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: good to be true.
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: In order to remove the you know, the highly enriched
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: uranium the dust, as the President refers to it, that
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: involves troops on the ground. I can't imagine that the
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: Iranians are going to allow that. Again, it's not an
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: arco state like Venezuela. These people cannot be bought off.
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: I think they really want to go down with that ship.
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: And this is, you know, a people who regime that
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: welcomes martyrdom, particularly the martyrdom of other people, not themselves personally.
• 34:48
  Speaker 12: So that is, in general, a very very frustrating situation we're.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: In, all right. Reuter's chief National security correspondent Phil Stewart
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: reports the things the President has said in the last hour.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: The strait of horror moves will open as soon as
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: we sign The signing will occur maybe over this weekend.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: The signing will probably be in Europe and Vice President
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Vance will probably be there. Again, those are a lot
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: of probables, and it's a memorizing and understanding and negotiate.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: You know. The Iranians, the President himself has said, they've
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: never lost a negotiation, They've never won a war. It
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: is best case scenario is what I told Eleana Johnson
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: last hour is that they were sufficiently busted up by
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the Israeli strikes over the weekend and our strikes on
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday night that they finally said no Moss,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: no Moss. That is possible.
• 35:39
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean sure, that's definitely possible. But again, this regime,
• 35:44
  Speaker 12: the people you're negotiating with here, cannot be trusted.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So even if they're.
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: Going to say you're right, you know, they've pounded us
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: enough that we're willing to talk.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I think again, there is.
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: Only one way out of this, at least decisively, and
• 35:59
  Speaker 12: that is to completely top of them.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: But that's going to take a lot, as you know, Hugh.
• 36:03
  Speaker 12: More than that we've it needs more than a proportional response.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: It needs a highly disproportional response.
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: By the United States to show them that we need
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: we mean business here. I mean this memorandum of understanding.
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: It strikes me as saying we're going.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: To agree to agree to a meeting to agree on something.
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: You know, they're just getting to that point and which
• 36:23
  Speaker 12: point the Iranians can stretch this out. I really feel
• 36:26
  Speaker 12: like they've been beaten down. The President's right, the military
• 36:29
  Speaker 12: has been destroyed. But at the same time, they still
• 36:31
  Speaker 12: have this ability to shut down the straight and they
• 36:33
  Speaker 12: know that the President's worried about all that in the
• 36:36
  Speaker 12: economy in the midterm elections.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: So count Vic Mattis as a skeptic. Is that what
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: You're yes, And I hope to be looking that's right,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and I hope to be proven wrong.
• 36:47
  Speaker 12: I mean, if tonight, you know, over in the next
• 36:50
  Speaker 12: few days, this all turns out to be a surprise
• 36:53
  Speaker 12: and the president you.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Know, re exerts, as you know, resolve and goes after
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: ran again.
• 37:00
  Speaker 12: I do not doubt he has the courage to attack
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: around because he's already done that. But my concerned is
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: his ability to finish the job. And I'll be happy
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: to say I was wrong next week.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll see Vic Matis. Thank you follow him
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: on exit Victor Ino matdis Listen to him on the
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Getting Hammered podcast, which you co host with Mary Katherine
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Ham and come right back after the break, Stephen Meyer
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: is coming back, and stay tuned at the QQUT show.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Working back America. We keep our eyes on the Middle East,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: of course, but President Trump is saying on true social bet,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I do want to cover other news that's out there.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Doctor Stephen Meyer is president of the Discovery Institute. I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: had a great pleasure a few weeks ago at the
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Museum of the Bible in DC to sit down with
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Stephen and other guests, clean my old friend Brian Bird
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to talk about the story of Everything, an amazing film
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: blew Away. The audience are about four under people at
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: the screening. Stephen, welcome back. How is the story of
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Everything done? It was a Fathom event, so it just
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I have no idea how it rolled out. Right.
• 37:59
  Speaker 14: We were offered just an opening week, and we were
• 38:03
  Speaker 14: extended because of the really good audience response all around
• 38:07
  Speaker 14: the country, good box office numbers. We were extended into
• 38:10
  Speaker 14: a second week, and then we were extended into a
• 38:14
  Speaker 14: third week. And now this week the film has come
• 38:16
  Speaker 14: out on Amazon Prime for streaming home entertainment release. So
• 38:21
  Speaker 14: we've been very pleased at the success of the film.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Oh congratulations. I know why that is, because I've seen it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: It breaks down the complicated into the simple. It explains
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: it from the comfort of a living room. Alays, I
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: think I told you that night on the set. I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: thought the choices made by your directorial team were amazing.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: What kind of response did you get from the average
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: individ you walks out not knowing what they were going
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: to go see.
• 38:48
  Speaker 14: Yeah, more important than the box office numbers where the
• 38:52
  Speaker 14: audience response. I'm a scientist, a philosopher of science. I
• 38:58
  Speaker 14: was unfamiliar with the film world. But there's a website
• 39:02
  Speaker 14: called Rotten Tomatoes, which is, I guess, the go to
• 39:05
  Speaker 14: place to review things. And we've had a ninety two,
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: ninety three, ninety four percent rating popcorn rating approval rating
• 39:15
  Speaker 14: from people who've watched the film's film with over five
• 39:18
  Speaker 14: hundred qualified reviews, so it's just maintained a really strong
• 39:22
  Speaker 14: rating and response from audience members. More importantly is just
• 39:26
  Speaker 14: some of the reports we've gotten from people. Very often
• 39:29
  Speaker 14: we're getting the report that after the film is over,
• 39:31
  Speaker 14: that people are sitting quietly reflectively, and then discussions break
• 39:36
  Speaker 14: out all over the theater about the really the big issues,
• 39:39
  Speaker 14: the question of is there a purposive creator behind the
• 39:43
  Speaker 14: universe and what does that have to say about whether
• 39:45
  Speaker 14: our lives have any purpose, ultimate purpose, or meaning in
• 39:50
  Speaker 14: our local theater in the Seattle area where I went.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I went a couple of nights.
• 39:54
  Speaker 14: And answered questions with audience members afterwards, and in both
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: it's people stayed out in the parking lot talking for
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: hours afterwards. So it's a film that is it's very
• 40:07
  Speaker 14: good storytelling. It's not a sermon on tape. It's not
• 40:10
  Speaker 14: a lecture on tape. Very good storytelling, but it does
• 40:14
  Speaker 14: raise these deeper questions that I think people have found
• 40:17
  Speaker 14: to be personally engaging and enriching to consider.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Now, I want people to know it's a documentary and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that's why it's doubly interesting because you can rely upon
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: what is put up there. It is a history of
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: science documentary. It's actually a history of the argument of design.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of philosophy, but it's mostly a scientific
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: look back. In terms of what audience reaction over at
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Rotten Tomato, I can't believe you didnt know about Rotten Tomatoes.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: That's where I go through before I go to a movie, Stephen,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: because you know, audiences are better critics than critics. But yeah,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I'm a movie Guyldren.
• 40:51
  Speaker 14: My children have told me I need some upgrades in
• 40:54
  Speaker 14: my awareness of popular culture.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you do Rotten Tomato. That's a very good score.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: But in terms of they also tell you what the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: critics thing over there. Did the critics go along at
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: least in terms of the beauty of it and the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: production values? Or were they mad that you're.
• 41:10
  Speaker 14: We've had We've had yeah, nine reviews from certified Rotten
• 41:15
  Speaker 14: Tomatoes critics. Eight of them have been off the charts positive.
• 41:20
  Speaker 14: One was from a very committed atheist who said the
• 41:23
  Speaker 14: film was very well done, but he's not going to
• 41:27
  Speaker 14: buy the argument yet. So but and I guess once
• 41:30
  Speaker 14: we get a tenth one, then we get an official
• 41:32
  Speaker 14: rating with that averages those scores. So we're waiting for
• 41:36
  Speaker 14: a tenth qualified or certified Rotten Tomatoes reviewer to weigh in.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Have you heard from any of the credential anti designers
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: among them? Richard Dawkins, I mean, there are lots of them,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: but Dowcins and and I can never remember the guy
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: who's out there all the time, but Dowkins is the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: number one.
• 41:55
  Speaker 14: Lawrence Krauss is the other, his American sidekick, you know,
• 42:00
  Speaker 14: really not. I think that there's they've gone kind of
• 42:03
  Speaker 14: silent on this one. It's interesting that the dynamics of
• 42:07
  Speaker 14: this debate have shifted a lot.
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: That the.
• 42:11
  Speaker 14: Scientific new atheists as they were called, really where they
• 42:15
  Speaker 14: had their run of things from about seven to twenty sixteen.
• 42:19
  Speaker 14: I think they've kind of overplayed their hand. There's a
• 42:22
  Speaker 14: renewed interest in the God question in both the UK
• 42:26
  Speaker 14: and the US, and I think that there's an awful
• 42:30
  Speaker 14: lot of younger scientists that are coming into our larger
• 42:33
  Speaker 14: network who are very excited about studying life in the
• 42:36
  Speaker 14: universe from the standpoint that it was designed, rather than
• 42:40
  Speaker 14: presupposing that it came about by an undirected, unguided natural process.
• 42:44
  Speaker 14: See I see on the screen the pantheon of new
• 42:47
  Speaker 14: atheistic greats.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be right back. Well, welcome back to America.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I'm ju Hubant. If you were listening in an hour, rue,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Doctor Stephen Meyer, president of Discovery Institute way out in Seattle,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and the prime mover behind them the Story of Everything,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: joined me in the first hour to walk us through
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: how well. The film is done now out on Amazon Prime,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and it is about the argument from design. It's a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: history of science film. It's a history of the argument
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: of design, not a particular theology. It's only that there
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: must be a creator of the universe, and there you
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: can reason from the smaller the larger, from the infinite
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: to the beginning the Big Bang, and you'll get there
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: where we left off an hour one, Steven was we
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: were telling about the new atheists, the new scientific atheists.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: The name I couldn't yet was Sam Harris. He's the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: only one I've I've debated. I've debated Dawkins on this show.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: He's not very impressive in this though I took his
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: natural selection courts decades ago in college. Sam Harris has
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: just done so much. Have they given up the fight?
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I don't see them much anymore. Have they given up
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: the fight?
• 43:51
  Speaker 14: I think they have become less relevant. Some of them
• 43:53
  Speaker 14: have just aged out of the debate. Others have just
• 43:56
  Speaker 14: moved on to other topics. There's a wonderful book in
• 44:00
  Speaker 14: the UK called The Surprising Rediscovery of Belief in God,
• 44:04
  Speaker 14: written by Justin Brierly, and he tells the story of
• 44:06
  Speaker 14: the unraveling of the New Atheist movement, partly because of
• 44:10
  Speaker 14: infighting within the New atheist camp themselves. Some of them
• 44:14
  Speaker 14: were hyper woke, some of them were really anti woke,
• 44:17
  Speaker 14: and without an agreed framework for making moral decisions that
• 44:21
  Speaker 14: comes from something like theism, they really didn't have a
• 44:24
  Speaker 14: way of adjudicating those discussions, and so there was a
• 44:28
  Speaker 14: lot of infighting and confusion. But beyond that, they never
• 44:32
  Speaker 14: really addressed the most powerful scientific arguments for intelligent design,
• 44:36
  Speaker 14: or indeed for God as the designer, and so a
• 44:39
  Speaker 14: lot of their scientific arguments seem really thin now as
• 44:43
  Speaker 14: a lot of the material from this larger network of
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: scientists who see evidence of design is coming out into
• 44:49
  Speaker 14: peer reviewed scientific literature and into prominent books, and now
• 44:54
  Speaker 14: now very publicly in the form of this film that
• 44:56
  Speaker 14: we've been talking about.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: So back to the film. The film is called The
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Story of Everything. I'm wondering, is there a Story of Everything?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Part two?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: That will take the second step We persuaded you there's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: a designer. Now, the designer usually signs their work. An
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: artist normally puts their mark on it. How do we
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: figure out what the designer wants us to know? Is
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: there a Part two coming?
• 45:20
  Speaker 14: Well, there are several sequels. There'll be a part two
• 45:23
  Speaker 14: that addresses the Darwinian argument for the origin of new
• 45:29
  Speaker 14: forms of life as a result of the process of
• 45:32
  Speaker 14: natural selection acting on random variations. You mentioned that you'd
• 45:36
  Speaker 14: taken Dawkins's course on that it happens that leading evolutionary
• 45:40
  Speaker 14: biologists are now calling for a new theory of evolution
• 45:43
  Speaker 14: because they know that mutation natural selection mechanism has very
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: limited creative power. It does a nice job of explaining
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: changes in coloration of peppered moths, or changes in the
• 45:55
  Speaker 14: shape or size of finch beaks, it does nothing to
• 45:58
  Speaker 14: explain the origin of birds and mammals or insects or
• 46:03
  Speaker 14: animal forms in the first place. And so this is
• 46:05
  Speaker 14: a very interesting thing that the public doesn't know about
• 46:08
  Speaker 14: that leading evolutionary biologists are themselves dissatisfied with a standard
• 46:12
  Speaker 14: textbook theory. I tended a conference at the Royal Society
• 46:15
  Speaker 14: and ten years ago where this was all acknowledged and
• 46:20
  Speaker 14: it's time to put this theory out of its miseries.
• 46:22
  Speaker 14: We'll have a film coming out on that. But we're
• 46:24
  Speaker 14: also interested in the deeper questions about well, who is
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: the designer? And to address that you have to get
• 46:30
  Speaker 14: you have to go beyond what's called natural theology and
• 46:32
  Speaker 14: start to look at the general revelation of nature, but
• 46:37
  Speaker 14: what theologians call the special revelation that comes from scripture.
• 46:42
  Speaker 14: And we have a couple of films planned on the
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: historicity of different crucial biblical accounts of God's actions in time, space,
• 46:51
  Speaker 14: and history, one on the Exodus account in the Hebrew Bible,
• 46:56
  Speaker 14: and one on the trial of Jesus in the New Testate.
• 47:00
  Speaker 14: So for audience who liked our first film, stay tuned.
• 47:03
  Speaker 14: We'll be getting to those questions, specific questions of you know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 14: which God are we talking about? And how can you
• 47:09
  Speaker 14: make that decision rationally about which form of feeism makes
• 47:13
  Speaker 14: the most sense.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Well, apologetics is always interested in me, but you always
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: have to bring along people who aren't interested in one
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: step at a time. The first step is the story
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of everything. Let's get it down. There is a big bang,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: There is a design to the cell. There is a
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: magnificence to the architecture that cannot be random, and that's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: now available at Amazon Prime. But there's a sequence then
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: to follow for people who have been unfortunately. I think
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: that Dawkins. I just read the Selfish Chain. It was
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: taught by Steven. I can remember his last name, and
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I was a freshman in nineteen seventy five. You've got
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: to bring people out of that pit a lot of
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: step at a time, don't you. So are you feeling rejuvenated?
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: As the Discovery Institute rejuvenated result.
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: Of absolutely yeah. Yeah, we've had a kind of a
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: big run. I would say, you know, the last ten
• 47:59
  Speaker 14: years of just in a kind of like a flywheel,
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: more and more momentum. We're attracting more and more young talent.
• 48:04
  Speaker 14: There's a historian of science, Thomas Khon, who wrote a
• 48:07
  Speaker 14: famous book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions back in the sixties,
• 48:11
  Speaker 14: and he said scientific revolutions happened one funeral at a time.
• 48:16
  Speaker 14: As as theold guard dot coth, the younger, younger people come.
• 48:20
  Speaker 14: You don't persuade a lot of the old old stars.
• 48:23
  Speaker 14: They just retire out of relevance, and you get a
• 48:25
  Speaker 14: new idea that comes up with younger people. We're seeing
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: that happen around the idea.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Well, congratulations on that. Don't bring your Amazon Prime has
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: got the story of everything from the Discovery Institute and
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: doctor Stephen Meyers. Thank you, doctor Meyers. I'm View York
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  Speaker 11: With time.
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  Speaker 1: Time. Joined now by Josh Cross, our editor in chief
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: of Jewish Insider. Josh, there's the best case scenario and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: there's the worst cannise wait, I don't know what that is.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: There is a best case in the worst case scenario,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Josh Cross. Our best case is the strike by Israel
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: over the weekend and the strikes by the United States
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday and Wednesday in cleaning more than forty tomahawks
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, just Jamed sent into the Iranians and
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: they said no moss and they did the deal last
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: night with the Katari intermediate. The worst case to President
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  Speaker 1: Trump trained his mind, doesn't want to do this because
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: markets weren't weren't happy about the threat that he issued
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: this morning on Fox and Friends, what do you think happened?
• 51:14
  Speaker 11: Well, Hugh, having been watching the ups and downs and
• 51:17
  Speaker 11: the roller coaster ride of the period of a ceasefire
• 51:20
  Speaker 11: since April, it does feel like it's a little bit
• 51:22
  Speaker 11: of Kabooki theater to these negotiations. Now this time may
• 51:27
  Speaker 11: well be different, because it seems like the President indicated
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: in his remarks just now that the Ayatola gave sign
• 51:35
  Speaker 11: off to at least some of the ideas as part
• 51:39
  Speaker 11: of the diplomacy. And I think the biggest takeaway from
• 51:43
  Speaker 11: President Trump's comments is that as part of this deal,
• 51:46
  Speaker 11: the straight up wore moves would open up immediately. But
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: again we're not seeing anything on the ground. Apparently the
• 51:51
  Speaker 11: Israelis were taken by surprise when Trump posted his truth
• 51:54
  Speaker 11: social earlier today. They said something in conversation the Prime
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  Speaker 11: Minister of Israel, Benjamin Antanyahu and and Donald Trump. But
• 52:02
  Speaker 11: there's been a lot of talk you as you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 11: about we're almost on the finish line when it comes
• 52:07
  Speaker 11: to diplomacy, and then it turns out we're a lot
• 52:09
  Speaker 11: further than expected.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: So I heard a lot.
• 52:11
  Speaker 11: Of caveats in the President's reflection of what this deal
• 52:15
  Speaker 11: actually does. And I'll be very much looking at the
• 52:18
  Speaker 11: Ronald Reagan mantra trust, but verify when it comes to
• 52:21
  Speaker 11: looking at what happens now.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Oil is down to eighty six dollars and thirty four
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: cents a barrel at this moment that can change over
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the course of an hour, of course, and markets loved
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the announcement because they prefer talk talk to World War
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: as should anyone. However, it's the Iranians now. It is
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: possible that the heat is dead and maybe some regular
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: fanatics took over the opposed to fanatical fanatics. But I'm
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: not really hopeful about the sixty days to negotiate. I mean,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: we've got a record. We're not going to be I
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: hope We're not going to be John carry chasing after
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the old here what was his name, the former foreign
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: minister of your own sure right.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: The former formation, Yeah, zarif.
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: The thing that that gives me pause is that this
• 53:08
  Speaker 11: is one of the many times in the ceasefire period
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: that Trump has basically said we're gonna going to strike
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: Iran if they don't, you know, immediately come to the table.
• 53:17
  Speaker 11: And you know, again he kind of back back the
• 53:21
  Speaker 11: way at the last minute. So Iran has been sort
• 53:23
  Speaker 11: of reading the president's intentions.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: They've been calling his bluff.
• 53:26
  Speaker 11: And they and they and it seems like they've been,
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: at least until this moment, have been obstinate and not
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: making any concessions. So if they do agree to open
• 53:34
  Speaker 11: up the straight up her moves or moves right away
• 53:36
  Speaker 11: without any freaking you know, without any without any gifts. Sure,
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: that's great. I'll believe it when I see it. And
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: it doesn't seem like we've made a lot of progress
• 53:44
  Speaker 11: on the nuclear side of things based on what the
• 53:46
  Speaker 11: President had to say said, there were.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Some conceptual conversations, so I think.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: There's a long Yeah, we were taking the press conference
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: line and I got frustrated because there were some idiotic
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: questions from the press in the room. The real question
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: is if during the sixty days of negotiation that the
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: mlu kicks off and Prime Ministry now who has said
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: he's got an assurances on what they're going to talk about.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: But if during those sixty days another a patch, he
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: gets attacked in down or they fire off missiles at
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Israel again, what happened? That's the question is And if
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: they breach the deal to have a sixty day cease fire,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: because we had a forty day war, a two month negotiation,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: a four day battle, and now we have two months
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: of negotiations. What happens if they screw with us again?
• 54:34
  Speaker 11: Well, we already saw a preview of that over the
• 54:35
  Speaker 11: weekend where Iran attacked Israel. Israel responded, but the president
• 54:40
  Speaker 11: wanted Israel to restrain itself, and Iran is making the
• 54:43
  Speaker 11: best and they seem to think that the domestic political
• 54:46
  Speaker 11: pressures on President Trump are such that he's actually they're
• 54:51
  Speaker 11: calling his bluff. They don't think he's actually going to
• 54:53
  Speaker 11: engage in a really sustained military strike. So we did
• 54:56
  Speaker 11: respond and get tit for tat proportionally, as UNCOM had said,
• 55:01
  Speaker 11: to the Iranian attacks against our bases.
• 55:04
  Speaker 15: So this this.
• 55:05
  Speaker 11: Is a I mean, it brings me memories of a
• 55:07
  Speaker 11: ball I hate to say this to you, but it
• 55:08
  Speaker 11: brings me memories of when you know, the Bomb administration
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: we're talking about proportional responses and not wanting to ratchet.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: You know, military action.
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: Up in the Middle East and in the ran can
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: sniff weakness. That's one thing that they're very good at.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: They know when you know the US is not serious about,
• 55:25
  Speaker 11: you know, bringing all it has to both the negotiating
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: table and the military assets it has on the ground.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: There last question, John, we hit them with forty tomahawks
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: last night. Forty tomawks is not one apache. Forty tomahawks
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: is not proportionate. Forty tom oaks is a that's forty
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: things destroyed. Let's go up with the best case for
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: a second. Maybe how many doesn't want to die in
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Behiti is dead? How's that as the best case?
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I think you laid out the best case scenario,
• 55:56
  Speaker 11: which is that they don't want to test the white
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: and they're not quite sure what what Trump's intentions are,
• 56:02
  Speaker 11: and they're gonna at least deal with the straight up
• 56:05
  Speaker 11: wom moves, even if they won't deal with the nuclear
• 56:07
  Speaker 11: and ballistic missiles. Maybe that would be the best case scenario.
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: And if that does transpire, if the you know, if
• 56:14
  Speaker 11: the straight up form moves opens up and Iran doesn't
• 56:17
  Speaker 11: ask for anything more than the six other than the
• 56:19
  Speaker 11: US not striking Iran, then that would be a good.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Day for the United States.
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: But I again, I'll believe it when I see it,
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: and we'll see what happens, and we'll.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: See what's in the memorandum. Right now, the world's better
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: off than it was on February twenty seventh, but it
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: can backsliding as possible, and you can't trust the Iranians.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Josh Croshauer, thank you. Follow Josh at Josh Cross houer
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: on X promised Administrator Lee Zelden joins us. He now
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: is administering the Environmental Protection Agency, my least favorite agency
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: in the federal government. But leez Elden's doing a fabulous
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: job running it. Mister administrator, welcome. Do you have any
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: guesses why it's my least favorite agency? Started by Richard Nixon,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: for whom I worked, and I built the library that
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: honors EPA. But do you have any idea why I
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: hate it?
• 57:04
  Speaker 10: I'm confident it's based on decisions of the past, not
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: during this current administration, where we have been instituting a
• 57:13
  Speaker 10: zero tolerance policy.
• 57:14
  Speaker 15: For any waste and abuse.
• 57:15
  Speaker 10: We did an agency wide reorganization and we are showing
• 57:19
  Speaker 10: that you could protect the environment and grow the economy.
• 57:21
  Speaker 10: You can rack up the pro environmental wins all across
• 57:25
  Speaker 10: America while also applying common sense following statutory obligations, limiting
• 57:32
  Speaker 10: power to what is specifically outlining in statute. And that's
• 57:38
  Speaker 10: why we've had a deregulatory agenda that we've pursued that's
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: more deregulation in one year than entire federal governments have
• 57:45
  Speaker 10: done in the past, across all agencies. Of the federal
• 57:48
  Speaker 10: government combined across entire presidencies, protecting the environment and growing
• 57:53
  Speaker 10: the economy.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I want to get into the weeds of that, because
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: getting the APA out of the lives of many Americans,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: whether they know it or will, be a great thing.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: But I want to start with might be from nineteen
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I left the Ray Administration. In eighty nine, I went
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: out to California. I started to practice land news law,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: and I would make my journeys up to Region nine
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco and beg them to please approve the
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: four oh four permit that had been approved already by
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: the Army Corps engineers, but it had been elevated. Have
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: you changed the rules on elevation which is this mysterious
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: process where an EPA bureaucrat decided, no, we want to
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: take a look at that four o four permit and
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: screws up the thing that you've been working on for years,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: and the APA never gives up. Have you changed that?
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely.
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: EPA has the power to slow things down, and EPA
• 58:39
  Speaker 10: has the power to speed things up. And you're referencing
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: a section of the Clean Water Act, both with Clean
• 58:46
  Speaker 10: Water Act, Clean.
• 58:47
  Speaker 15: Air Act, and more.
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: There are these statutory obligations that the agency has where
• 58:53
  Speaker 10: we want to make sure that we are doing our job.
• 58:56
  Speaker 10: We are doing our due diligence, but we are also
• 58:59
  Speaker 10: operating with Trump speed and we're trying to allow maximum
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: investment into our community and our country to unleash energy dominance,
• 59:09
  Speaker 10: to be able to build new manufacturing, new facilities, to
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: help the auto industry, and so much more. So, Yeah,
• 59:18
  Speaker 10: a lot is going faster. Listen, something gets elevated when
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: it needs to get elevated to really break through red tape.
• 59:25
  Speaker 10: We don't elevate to slow things down. We would only
• 59:28
  Speaker 10: elevate the speed things up. We delegate when things can
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: be handled correctly, but we want to make sure that
• 59:35
  Speaker 10: we don't delegate certain decisions that I, as EPA administrator
• 59:41
  Speaker 10: or someone who's running a program office can make sure
• 59:44
  Speaker 10: that this agenda is being administered, that's being administered correctly,
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: if the President's priorities are getting done and our statutory
• 59:50
  Speaker 10: obligations are being fulfilled. We inherited massive backlogs. Pesticide review
• 59:56
  Speaker 10: backlog was over fourteen six hundred, hundreds of state implementation
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 10: plans backlogged one hundred and seventy five of the small
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 10: refinery exemption requests going back several years, a blown renewable
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 10: volume obligation deadline, and so much more so. By focusing
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: our priorities on our core statutory obligations, we are making
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: sure that we have either eliminated or greatly reduced each
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: of those backlogs that we inherited. This is all part
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: of our effort to make our agency more transparent and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 10: operate in a way that the American public can be
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: proud of.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad, I'm glad you brought up SIPs state
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: implementation plans. I want to get there as well. My
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: one suggestion I only make one suggestion to a cabinet member,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: is before anyone's allowed to elevate a four or four permit,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: they need your permission or the Officer of the Administrator's permission,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: because it used to be run by bureaucrats to delay. Now.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Of course, EPA got the worst that it could get
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: during the Obama years, but the Clinton years were pretty
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: bad too, because it can stop growth everywhere in America.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: So I just want to commend you. You've really turned
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: it around. And I'm a retired lawyer, now I don't
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: do that anymore, and I haven't done it for ten years.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: But the EPA was a monster regulator. For example, Pete
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Wilson put me on the Air Quality Management District and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: EPA would always threaten our ship, which we got from CARB.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: It was just just like this gigantic regulatory octopus. How
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: long did it take you to master that?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 15: I mean weed start tackling this instantly.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 10: One of the things that helped was we created, as
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 10: part of our reorganization and Office of State Air Partnership
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 10: and an office that is focused on advancing cooperative federalism
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 10: to be able to get through this SIP backlog. Now
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: the message is clear to the states, don't try to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: use the power of EPA to help you to shut
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 10: down baseload power in your state. We had to disapprove
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: part of a SIP for this state of Colorado because
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 10: they wanted us to help them involuntarily shut down some
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 10: coal plants.
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  Speaker 15: We're not going to play along with that.
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  Speaker 11: You know.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: We had a state implementation plan for California that we
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: had to partially disapprove because of how they wanted to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 10: regulate out of state and out of country heavy duty trucks.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 10: But what is happening almost everywhere with the state implementation
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 10: plans is that we work together and we're able to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 10: get to yes. One of the other things that I
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 10: don't want to see happen is for us to be
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 10: in a position where we can't reach an agreement on
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 10: the state implementation plan, so that we then have to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: have some federal implementation plan that's one size fits all
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 10: solution coming out of some agency in Washington, d C.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: We believe that state and local governments know their land, air,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 10: and water better than agency officials in DC.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 15: But again, don't try to.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: Abuse that power by trying to get our agency to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: help you shut down base one power in your state.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 15: We need more of that, not less.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I worked all across the West. I never met
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: a state agency that cared less about their air, water,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: or their wildlife than the people that they were representing.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: And they were always better conservers of their natural resources
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: than the federal government. It just never made sense to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: me that the US Fish and Wildlife Service got to
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: regulate huge swaths. And I know you and Doug Burgham
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: must get together. Are you on the Energy Dominance Council Administrators?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Elton Sure?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, No, I served very closely with Doug Burgham or
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: Chris Wright and others. We meet directly with the President.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 10: The National Energy Dominance Council will go into a meeting
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 10: with an agenda where this President is instantly into the weeds.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 10: Like if you have an agenda item for in any
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 10: DC meeting where the topic is pipelines, the President then
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 10: will be asking, Okay, what's the status of new LG
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: pipeline in Alaska to run along the Trans Alaska Pipeline,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: Constitution pipeline to deliver natural gas from Pennsylvania through New
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 10: York into New England, NeSSI pipeline to liver natural gas
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: from Pennsylvania to downstate New York. Enbridge has a project
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 10: through Great Lakes in Wisconsin.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Trans Western has.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 10: A five plus billion dollar pipeline expansion across the Permium
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 10: basin of southwest US from through New Mexico and into Arizona.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: So the President, while we'll go into a meeting and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: we'll have these top line topics, the President is instantly
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: in the weeds on them. And the pipelines is just
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: one of many great examples to show that.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 15: But yet we work really closely with Doug Bergham and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 15: the others.
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  Speaker 1: So I haven't talked to Secretary about the US Fish
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: and Mold Life Service. That's my second most heated agency.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Number three is the Army Corp of Engineers. But hopefully
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you're working well. Then let's turn to the Energy Dominance Council.
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  Speaker 1: And you mentioned on my list New York State hates pipelines.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: I'm up in New England right now. These people pay
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: ridiculous amounts for natural gas and electricity in the winter
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: because New York want to prove pipelines. Are you doing
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: something about that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: I was actually just in Binghamton a couple days ago.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 10: I had a press conference highlighting the need for New
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: York to get behind Constitution pipeline to allow this to
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 10: get built to deliver natural gas through New York and
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 10: into New England. And there are millions of New Englanders
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: who need it. And New England, as you well know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 10: is relying on not just out of state sources, but
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: out of country sources. They're seeing the highest energy increases
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: that you'll find just about anywhere in America.
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  Speaker 15: And it just doesn't have to be this way.
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  Speaker 10: To be able to deliver natural gas from Pennsylvania, New
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: England would be great. I will say though, that what
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: makes even more sense would be for England would be
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 10: for New York to reverse its ban on the extraction
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: of natural gas from New York. The fact that New
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 10: York would be banning that statewide doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 10: They banned gas look ups on new construction inside of
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: the state there, as you're pointing out, not approving the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 10: pipelines like Constitution where they should. They've set claw dates
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: that they know that they will not hit. But in
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: the rush to try to hit those dates, they'll cause
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 10: extreme economic pain to their own New Yorkers who can
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: at least afford it, and New England, unfortunately, because of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: the Constitution pipeline aspect of it, they are suffering as
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: a result of that neighboring state not allowing this pipeline
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  Speaker 10: to be built. It's an important priority of the Presidents,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 10: it's an important priority the National Energy Dominance Council. Unfortunately,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 10: New York has been standing in a way and they're
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 10: wrong to do that.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're so wrong to it. Don't go anywhere. American
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Administrator Lee's Elden will be right back with me. I'm
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: going to take on the knicks and then we'll talk
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: about what might be happening tonight as we speak over
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: the guys of Iran, and how the energy turbulence that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: was expected did not actually arrive in the degree that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: people expected, largely because of the Energy Dominance Council, upon
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: which he sits along with Doug Burgham Chris right over
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: at Energy and Interim Reverse there. So don't go anywhere,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'll be right back on the too here
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: at check Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh Hewittt talking with
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: US Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Leaves Elden, member of the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: President's Cabinet, member of the US Energy Dominance Council, Admissions Elden.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: President Trump said he was going to be striking around
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: tonight this morning on Fox and Friends about one o'clock today,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: he called it off, And we don't know if it's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: called off for good, but either way, it creates uncertainty
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: in the energy markets. Do you want to let the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: audience know what EPA has to do with calming the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: energy markets and what the Energy Dominance Council is doing.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, oil still under an hundred bucks a barrel,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: which is pretty remarkable given that we're bombing Wednesday and Tuesday.
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  Speaker 10: Sure, from one standpoint, there is the regulations on the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: oil and gas industry. Some of these regulations that were
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 10: put into place.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 15: During the Biden administration.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 10: The regulator wasn't meeting with the regulated community.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: And drafted these rules.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 10: Quado BC is an example of one of the regulations
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 10: on the oil and gas industry with flaring with wells producers.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 10: It's an important topic for them and there were just
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 10: so many different consequences negatively on our energy economy. So
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 10: we have been going through the process. We've very finalized rules.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 10: We're doing more to be able to fix that mistake.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: I've signed off on summer waivers as it relates to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 10: the sale of E ten and E fifteen.
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  Speaker 15: There are decisions that are with an.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 10: EPA's equities specifically. But then there's also the work of
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 10: the National Energy Dominance Council. And I think one of
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 10: the biggest.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Untold stories of the.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 10: Midterm and long term benefits for the US of what's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 10: happening in the Middle East is that you have so
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 10: many countries that are now looking to the United States
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 10: for diversifying their supply chain in a way that they
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: hadn't in the past. We were in Tokyo in March,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: right after the conflict first started. We met with seventeen
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 10: into Pacific nations. Their energy ministers and others were there,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 10: and countries like, for example, Japan. They were talking about
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  Speaker 10: how it takes some twenty eight days to get their
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  Speaker 10: supplies from the Middle East and they haven't had freedom
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  Speaker 10: of navigation where they've been for many decades. Also getting
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  Speaker 10: energy supplies from Alaska, where it takes just a few
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  Speaker 10: days and they've always had total freedom of navigation. They're
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  Speaker 10: looking more to the US. They're looking in other countries.
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  Speaker 10: They are looking more to the US on how can
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  Speaker 10: they tap into our supplies now.
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  Speaker 2: We need to increase.
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  Speaker 10: Our infrastructure inside of the US, including our ports on
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  Speaker 10: the West Coast, to be able to get these supplies exported.
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  Speaker 10: Unleashing energy dominance is big not just for Americans, but
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  Speaker 10: also for our economy and our national security to be
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  Speaker 10: able to export to other countries that are relying on it.
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  Speaker 2: On top of it, short term.
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  Speaker 10: The president's move with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, other countries
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  Speaker 10: doing their part with releasing supplies, the work to be
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  Speaker 10: able to get ships through this strait of horror moves
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  Speaker 10: there have been a lot of actions that other agencies
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  Speaker 10: have been taking, working with President Trump to help the
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  Speaker 10: short term impacts, but long term and again midterm as well,
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  Speaker 10: we're seeing more of a demand for American supplies that
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  Speaker 10: can be a benefit not just for years to come,
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  Speaker 10: but for decades and generations to come, and say whole
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  Speaker 10: new way of other countries to be able to provide
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  Speaker 10: for their own needs, to be able to tap into
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  Speaker 10: our supplies. I would say, by the way, better for
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  Speaker 10: our environment as well, because here in the United States
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  Speaker 10: we tap into these supplies so much better for the
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  Speaker 10: environment than so many other countries do also around the world.
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  Speaker 1: So leez Alvin. In the first term in President Trump,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Pruitt, Andy Wheeler, they'd come on the program. They
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  Speaker 1: had to do rollback. The Obama years weren't nightmared Apa.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: They grew regulations vines in a forest, and they were
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: cutting them back. In the intervening time, the Trump Supreme
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Court Appointee's added with Justices Roberts and Thomas and Alido,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: came up with the major Questions doctrine, and then they
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: came up with the end of judicial difference to administrative
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  Speaker 1: agency has rolled back been easier this time around for
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  Speaker 1: you than it was for say Andy and Scott when
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  Speaker 1: they were in your job.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely, there is a single best meaning of federal statute,
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  Speaker 10: and we are going to simply follow that single best
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  Speaker 10: meeting meaning of federal statute. That's Loperbride, and we use that,
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  Speaker 10: for example in repealing the two thousand and nine Endangerment
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  Speaker 10: funding and all the greenhouse gas emission standards on light,
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  Speaker 10: medium and heavy duty vehicles that followed, and the start
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  Speaker 10: Stop off cycle credit, all the off cycle credits, including
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  Speaker 10: that Climate Participation trophy for manufacturers to make Carr's diet
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  Speaker 10: stoplights and.
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  Speaker 15: Red lights stop signs.
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  Speaker 2: In are lights.
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  Speaker 10: So that was just simply reading Section two or two
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  Speaker 10: of the Clean Air Act.
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  Speaker 15: Which does not give EPA authority to.
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  Speaker 10: Regulate greenhouse gas emissions to fight global climate change. We're
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  Speaker 10: just following the best available reading of the law. And
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  Speaker 10: as it relates to the major questions doctrine, I'm glad
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  Speaker 10: you pointed it out. We sew with West Virginia University
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  Speaker 10: PA and other court cases. No longer can a member
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  Speaker 10: of Congress down the street where they're lacking the votes,
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  Speaker 10: the political will, the political courage to change statute. Can
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  Speaker 10: you just call the head of an agency your friend
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  Speaker 10: down the street and say, hey, why don't you just
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  Speaker 10: do it?
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  Speaker 15: Anyway?
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  Speaker 10: No longer am I able to read federal statute and say, well,
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  Speaker 10: the statue doesn't say I can't, so I guess therefore
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  Speaker 10: I can. If the EPA is going to oppose trillions
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  Speaker 10: of dollars of regulation, you need to have a debate
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  Speaker 10: and a vote a change of statute authorization from Congress.
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  Speaker 10: And for too long, for too often, you had agency
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  Speaker 10: heads like the administrator of EPA imposing these massive costs
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  Speaker 10: on the American public, on the American economy without there
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  Speaker 10: being that debate.
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  Speaker 15: In that vote in Congress.
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  Speaker 10: So these are consequential decisions, landmark decisions of the Supreme
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  Speaker 10: Court in recent years.
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  Speaker 2: We are following them simply.
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  Speaker 10: And by the way, it doesn't just tie the hands
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  Speaker 10: of me as the epad administrator, but it also ties
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  Speaker 10: the hands of whoever follows me. I'm not limiting my
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  Speaker 10: power to less than my statutory obligations. I'm limiting my
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  Speaker 10: power where I can't do more than what federal statute
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  Speaker 10: requires of me. And that's going to be the same
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  Speaker 10: requirement on whoever follows me in a seat after me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about California then, and in two
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: specific ways, California Air Resources Board attempts to bully the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: country into ridiculous and crazy regulatory overreach. Is there any
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: way that you can bring them to heal because CARB
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  Speaker 1: is really driving a lot of the environmental nightmare in
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: the country. Yeah.
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  Speaker 15: No, absolutely, and I'm glad you asked.
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  Speaker 10: Last year, we sent three biden EPA waivers that were
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 10: previously sent to California that California used for their electric
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: vehicle mandate, and more that a whole bunch of other
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 10: states than signed onto that biden EPA waiver was sent
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 10: to Congress for Congress to review under the Congressional Review Act.
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  Speaker 15: So we sent three of those waivers over.
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  Speaker 10: Congress then rejected those waivers pursuant to.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: The Congressional Review Act.
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  Speaker 10: President Trump signed it, effectively eliminating the electric vehicle mandate
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  Speaker 10: that California had. I mentioned earlier here in this interview
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  Speaker 10: where we rejected a part of the State Implementation Plan
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 10: proposal for California where they wanted permission to be able
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 10: to regulate heavy duty trucks from our state and even
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  Speaker 10: out of country. These and more are actions that have
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  Speaker 10: been taking that and will be taken in other ways
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  Speaker 10: going forward for us to be able to strike that
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  Speaker 10: balance of making sure that we don't have one state
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  Speaker 10: holding hostage all of national policy, that we are then
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: neutering the entire power of the federal government across all
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 10: branches by giving a monopoly of power to CARB. We
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 10: do not believe in that, and we have taken a
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 10: number of actions.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll do more.
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  Speaker 1: I have one more segment with the administrator. Don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about rebuilding LA because someone's got
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: to do it, and it's not going to be done
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: by Karen Bash or the socialist who wants to a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: place you're hard to believe there's someone even more to
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: the left than Karen Bash. Stay tuned, Welcome back, America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett. Lee Zelden was a great congressman, he
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: was a great soldier. He's probably a Knicks fan, So
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up basketball right now because
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: they're all a little overly zealous. Are you a Knicks fan? Administrators?
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  Speaker 10: Eldon all right, lifelong and I'm loving every minute of
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: this finals run. You know, the President called me last
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: night at midnight talking Knicks basketball, and that game that
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 10: we watched last night was the largest comeback ever in
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 10: the NBA Finals. Is the largest comeback for the New
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 10: York Knicks of any game that they've ever played, down
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: twenty nine and it's just such an awesome team. They
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 10: have all the right pieces. We're feeling good that for
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 10: the first time in fifty three years, we're gonna be
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: hoisting at Larry O'Brian Trophy.
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  Speaker 1: So we're so. I'm from outside of Cleveland, So the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: refereeing in the Cavaliers game where they were twenty two
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: points a half, I know the Spurs fan pain. Let
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: me just say that I have a feeling maybe the
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: NBA wants the Knicks to finally win something. But we'll
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: leave it there. Administrats, Let's go out to California. It
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: burned down because of malfeasance on the part of an
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: individual and just complete, incredible, incredible incompetence on the part
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: of the City of Los Angeles, the County of Los Angeles,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: to the state. I applaud your cleanup. I did not
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: think you'd be able to get that stuff removed in
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: the record fashion that you did.
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  Speaker 10: Is there any way you can help them rebuild it
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 10: one hundred percent? And at the one year mark, President Trump,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 10: very happy with all of the federal response efforts, said,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 10: you know, I wonder if we could do even more
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 10: to help break through the non federal logjams that still exist.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 10: He asked me to lead this effort.
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  Speaker 2: We were able to help.
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  Speaker 10: Get thousands of additional permits then over the finish line.
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  Speaker 10: In a way, it was kind of like constituent services
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  Speaker 10: from back in my days as a legislator.
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  Speaker 15: We were calling.
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  Speaker 10: Individuals who lost their homes and figuring out what kind
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 10: of help they needed to be able to punch their
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 10: permits over the finish line. We also were getting feedback
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  Speaker 10: about how while some insurance companies were doing a really
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: good job and paying out their claims, other insurance companies weren't.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: They were dragging their customers through the mud, requiring documentation
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 10: to be provided even though it was lost in the fire,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: and at the end of the day providing it, offering
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 10: up an under payment anyway. So we have been engaging
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 10: with the insurance companies and we have gotten insurance companies
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 10: to change their policies to help there. And there's more
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 10: to be done. Same on the banking front. We heard
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 10: from locals where they have a mortgage to pay, but
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 10: they also now have to pay rent because they're not
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: back in their home where they're still paying.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 15: On the mortgage.
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  Speaker 10: So we engage directly with the banks to get the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 10: banks to extend mortgage forebearants.
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  Speaker 2: We are quite.
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  Speaker 10: Frankly, working as close as we possibly can with anyone.
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  Speaker 10: I don't care if you're you know, state government, local government,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 10: private sector, the builders, the insurance, the banking.
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  Speaker 15: The victims, the local communities.
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  Speaker 10: We're here to help however we possibly can, and we're
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: happy to do it. This is the most apocalyptic site
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  Speaker 10: I've ever seen inside the United States. I is there
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 10: right after the fires hit and is very personal to us.
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  Speaker 10: We want to help Los Angeles rebuild. We're proud to
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  Speaker 10: do it now, and I would say as far as
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 10: preventing any type of an instance like this again in
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 10: the future, it's very important for California to do better
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: as it relates to fire prevention and forest management.
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  Speaker 15: There is a state park right next to the.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 10: Palisades where there should have been brush clearance. You create
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: a buffer to give more time for fire departments to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 10: stage more time for homeowners to be able to flee,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 10: but unfortunately that wasn't done. There's a need for more
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 10: of the water infrastructure. They rely on gravity to get
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 10: water to go downhill, but when you need to rely
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 10: on pressure pumps to get water to go uphill, then
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 10: when everyone turns on they're sinks, they're sprinklers, their faucets,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 10: and even the fire hydrants, and the pressure goes down
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 10: and you can't get the water uphill, then you're unable
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 10: to fight the fire. There needs to be more redundancy.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: So waterflow is important as well. So while we're going
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 10: to do everything in our power, there is so much
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 10: that other levels of government can do to help, and
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 10: we just we want to assist as much as we can.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: This is about the people of America everyone. We want
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: to fight for them, and regardless of whether or not
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 10: it fits in the traditional EPA equities, the President wants
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 10: us to assist, and we're happy to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm minister as Olle. We got one minute left.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever looked into dsal desalanization and how EPA
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: could expedite that. I mean, the California Coastal Commission would
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: kill it in a moment. But they're left wing socialists.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: But we could use d SL on the golf, we
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: could use it on the East coast. Does anyone ever
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: talk to you about, Hey, EPA, let's get in the
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: desalinization business. That's got to be good for the environment.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: As a matter of fact, today there's a meeting with
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 10: leaders in a whole bunch of different agesencies where they're
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 10: going to be talking about a number of different water topics,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 10: and one of the topics that the head of the
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 10: Office of Water for EPA is planning on bringing up
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 10: is the topic of detail.
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  Speaker 15: It's an important priority.
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  Speaker 1: Come back and tell us update us on that. I
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: think you may be the only hope that most Californians
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: have of ever getting inning rebuilt out there. It's a nightmare.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Leadises Elton, good to talk to you, even though Nick
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: supremise or so you might be. Come back and keep
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: us posting on all the good stuff you're up to.