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AEW Hot Topics: Worlds End Fallout · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition six five four three two one zero,
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  Speaker 1: all engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the AAW Fan podcast team. We've got a
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  Speaker 2: lot to talk about tonight. We have the a W
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  Speaker 2: World Send Fallout, and we've got aw Holiday Smash or
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  Speaker 2: New Year's Smash coming tomorrow night on aw Dynamite. This
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  Speaker 2: is Kelson and.
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  Speaker 3: This is Yess. I am just breaking in here to
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  Speaker 3: let you all know that if you are in a
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  Speaker 3: Ring of Honor fan, Ring of Honor is ringing in
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  Speaker 3: the new year with a live stream on YouTube. They
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  Speaker 3: will be playing all of their main events from twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five, plus plus other matches from their other events
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  Speaker 3: and pay per views, So that might be something if
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  Speaker 3: you're interested in checking out Ring of Honor check that out. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: speaking of pay per views, World's End last weekend, great show.
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  Speaker 3: I've been saying that the show was booked for me,
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  Speaker 3: and one of the reasons it was booked for me
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  Speaker 3: is my personal favorite John Moxley. He won the Continental Classic.
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  Speaker 3: It was awesome. What do you guys think, A.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. Mosley is someone I don't think any
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  Speaker 1: of us predicted. I'm very surprised. I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: mind it at all. I'm not upset about it. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't know if he needed it, Like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this was the time to elevate Tyle Fletcher. But
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  Speaker 1: you know that's me. He was my pick from the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm a little biased on that good match with Hoka.
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  Speaker 1: The pay per view as a whole, I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was good, which is a little weird to say about
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  Speaker 1: an AW pay per view. It's just, yeah, that it
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  Speaker 1: was just it was good.
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  Speaker 2: It was good. I mean, AW pay per views don't miss.
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  Speaker 2: But when it comes to ranking, I put up a
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  Speaker 2: post Chris and Jess up on the AW Fantom Summer
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  Speaker 2: and in other places as well. A lot of the
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  Speaker 2: nine pay per views, pretty much everybody except for one
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  Speaker 2: or two people put World's End in the bottom third,
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  Speaker 2: like the bottom three pay per views. That's not to
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  Speaker 2: say that these people were saying it was a bad
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  Speaker 2: pay per view. It just wasn't. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's the difference between getting a you know, twenty two
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  Speaker 1: ounce quarterhouse cooked perfectly, you know, with all the sides
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  Speaker 1: and trimmings, and get no, get they perfectly cooked Starloin
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  Speaker 1: with basic side like nothing that the pay per viewing.
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  Speaker 1: We've had so many pay per views with these memorable
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  Speaker 1: moments and matches, and it feels like this one just
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  Speaker 1: kind of had really good matches, really good moments, but
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  Speaker 1: nothing that you know, really stood out as being.
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  Speaker 2: Like the good. The best way I can explain it
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  Speaker 2: to you, guys is like when Hagman Adam Paige defeated
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  Speaker 2: John Moxley at all In. You you remember that John
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  Speaker 2: Moxley lost to Adam Page at all In. You know,
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  Speaker 2: six months later, six months from now, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: remember a single match from World's End. I personally, that's
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  Speaker 2: just me now, Jess, I know that I've seen you
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  Speaker 2: post that you thought that this pay per view was
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  Speaker 2: booked just for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, it everything I liked. I mean, like, the only
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  Speaker 3: way it could have been better if somehow Kenny Omega
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  Speaker 3: could have been on the show, and uh if Coda
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  Speaker 3: Ibushi magically healed and he was on there too, and
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  Speaker 3: maybe if swerved and uh Hagman Paige kissed a little
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  Speaker 3: uh oh god, d kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, We're not going there? Are we kidding?
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  Speaker 3: Or am I I'm kidding but no, it was other
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  Speaker 3: than the absence of Kenny Omega. It was literally everything
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  Speaker 3: I like. So it's amazing how subjectivity works, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But like I said, there's subjectivity, but it's not negativity,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's not like like Chris
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  Speaker 2: and I said that it was a bad pay per view.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, not at all. It was We're spoiled with AWA. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: we have had so so many great PA previews, matches, amazing, memorable,
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  Speaker 1: crazy stuff that it seems like a good pay per
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  Speaker 1: view is slightly disappointing. Like not that I was. I
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I didn't feel like I wasted my money,
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  Speaker 1: had fun with the show. Just of the what ten
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  Speaker 1: pay per views this year, I want to say maybe, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was somewhere close to that. Of the
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  Speaker 1: nine pay per views, I would say this was probably
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  Speaker 1: my seventh or eighth.
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  Speaker 2: I need to break in here and I and I
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  Speaker 2: apologize for making this. Jess, you've got a new headphone.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that. Uh, either your microphone is in your
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  Speaker 2: mouth or whatever, because I could hear every breath that
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  Speaker 2: you're taking. The sorry, i'll mute, well move the microphone
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  Speaker 2: away from your mouth. I did the same thing with
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  Speaker 2: this microphone, and.
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  Speaker 3: People were telling though, like, this is a razor headset,
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  Speaker 3: so there's no like adjustable mic. It's built into the ear,
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  Speaker 3: so I can't really move it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, not a big deal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I moved it back. Is that a little better?
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  Speaker 2: So you got Yeah? So with with the you just
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  Speaker 2: have to mute. I guess With the Continental Classic, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we had Kyle Fletcher against Max, when we had Okada
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  Speaker 2: against Takeshta. I did like the storytelling with the screwdriver,
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  Speaker 2: But what did you think of the qualifying matches? The well,
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  Speaker 2: not the qualifying the semi final matches excellent.
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  Speaker 3: Can I talk about the screwdriver for a second. Sure,
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  Speaker 3: I was brought this up on the Discord. The discord
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  Speaker 3: is great, by the way, if you haven't joined joined,
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  Speaker 3: we're great people. But I mentioned the wild dichotomy of
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  Speaker 3: like the top people in the Callous family right now,
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  Speaker 3: and as it pertains to this screwdriver because at first
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  Speaker 3: I in the first match, I thought Callous hid the screwdriver,
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  Speaker 3: but it turns out it was Kyle. Kyle hid the
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  Speaker 3: screwdriver for himself to use. Okata found out about it
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  Speaker 3: somehow he used it. So now there's this way the
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  Speaker 3: top three people in the Callous family are all mad
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  Speaker 3: at each other, like Takeush does mad at Okata and
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  Speaker 3: maybe mad at Kyle for bringing the screwdriver in the
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  Speaker 3: first place, and Kyle's probably mad at Okada for stealing
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  Speaker 3: his screwdriver. I can't wait to see how this plays out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you, Chris, what did you think about
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  Speaker 2: the semi final matches?
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed both matches. I probably enjoyed Ocata to catch
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  Speaker 1: a little more because they went kind of kind of
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  Speaker 1: a classic New Japan style almost, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 1: the slow build and then it really ramped up and
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  Speaker 1: then crazy finishers and encounters. And the screwdriver thing is
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  Speaker 1: interesting because it, I mean, it gives to casta like
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  Speaker 1: Okay Okata couldn't actually be he had to use a
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  Speaker 1: fricking screwdriver, like what a little bit. And then I
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  Speaker 1: thought the Fletcher Maxley match was great, those who went
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  Speaker 1: all out and again the screwdriver comes into play. But
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  Speaker 1: like I said, that'll be really interesting, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: see how that all kind of plays out. And Okada
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  Speaker 1: and to Kestra probably aren't even on the show tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: night because of Wressell Kingdom. But if they are, that'll
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  Speaker 1: be very interesting to see, you know, like does Kyle
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  Speaker 1: blame Okada like you screwed me over?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Is to kestin mad because Kyle put the screwdriver out
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  Speaker 1: there in the first place. Good matches, good story to
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  Speaker 1: come out of both of them. Looking forward to see
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  Speaker 1: what happens with the whole screwdriver Gake.
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  Speaker 2: You know, one thing that I've got to say this
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  Speaker 2: is that I thought it was a mistake for Tony
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  Speaker 2: Kah to put Takesha Nakada up first. And the reason
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  Speaker 2: why is because, as you said, Chris, it was a
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  Speaker 2: new Japan style match. It was a slow burn, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't really think that Takeshta and Okada really expressed
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  Speaker 2: their distrust and or hatred to each other very well
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  Speaker 2: in this match. I think it was for the most
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  Speaker 2: part just a regular match until the end. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get the you know, the the turmoil that's going in
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  Speaker 2: in don Kallis family through the It was not the
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  Speaker 2: best in ring storytelling match as far as continuing that
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  Speaker 2: story uh for me, and I thought it started out
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  Speaker 2: really slow, and to be honest, with you. I lost
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  Speaker 2: interest in the match probably until about halfway through the
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  Speaker 2: batch because the matches started out so slow. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that that match was the right match to go with.
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  Speaker 2: But then again, you kind of had to do that
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  Speaker 2: because it played into the screwdriver thing, and the screwdriver
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  Speaker 2: thing would not have worked unless you know that match
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  Speaker 2: went first. So but I did think that that was
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  Speaker 2: not the right match to go with first. Plus I
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  Speaker 2: think it was the match in the semi finals of
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  Speaker 2: people were really looking forward to the most. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it was just something about that match. It was just
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  Speaker 2: a little off from the beginning. And maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: because it was a New Japan style match and not
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  Speaker 2: an American match American style match, but it just didn't
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  Speaker 2: work for me.
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  Speaker 1: Brother, Yeah, and that's exactly why it did work for me,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, I love I love that New Japan style,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of slow build and you know, feeling each
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  Speaker 1: other out. I think the end is what really launches
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  Speaker 1: the hatred between them. Like up to now, it's sure sure,
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  Speaker 1: up to now it's been antagonistic and a little like
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  Speaker 1: whatever you can do, I can do better, But there
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been that moment where You're like, Okay, I hate you.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be ever loving wrap out of you
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  Speaker 1: the next time I see your stupid face. But now
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  Speaker 1: with Okada using the screwdriver, you know, feeling, and then
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  Speaker 1: he didn't even win, Like if you're a kicksty you
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  Speaker 1: gotta be really pissed, like, Okay, you screwed me over,
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  Speaker 1: you hit me in the head with the screwdriver, and
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  Speaker 1: then you didn't even win.
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  Speaker 2: You Yeah, I mean it was just weird because is
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  Speaker 2: it just me? Or did John Moxley become a babyface organically? Yes?
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  Speaker 3: And Daniel Brian Daniel, Brian Danielson.
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  Speaker 2: Well, which one is it? Jazz? Come on?
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  Speaker 3: Brian Danielson actually put it very well, like there is
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  Speaker 3: no interference allowed in the Continental Classic. Cheating apparently is fine,
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  Speaker 3: but uh, no interference allowed, and since interference is the
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  Speaker 3: death writer's stick, basically, this tournament has let mox be
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  Speaker 3: mox again basically, and the crowd is warmed up and
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  Speaker 3: come around to him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, look, I'm gonna say this a lot of look.
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  Speaker 2: I run the aw fan Hub, Instagram, Blue sky X
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  Speaker 2: account threads. I'm a moderator on the discord. I'm a
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  Speaker 2: moderator on the subreddit as well, and when it came
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  Speaker 2: to the post Continental Classic or World's End I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: World's End discussion. On all those platforms, more people were
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  Speaker 2: talking about Orange Cassidy and Tony Storm dancing that they
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  Speaker 2: were about the Continental Classic matches. I've said it before
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  Speaker 2: and I'll say it again. Uh And I said this
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  Speaker 2: last week. I believe that the C two Tournament should
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  Speaker 2: have started at least one, probably two weeks earlier, because
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  Speaker 2: we didn't know who the participants were in the C
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  Speaker 2: two semi finals until Christmas Night, and that was a
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  Speaker 2: night where aw AW Collision was Christmas Collision was on
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  Speaker 2: a different night, at a different time, on a holiday
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  Speaker 2: where a lot of people didn't really watch professional wrestling
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  Speaker 2: or much of anything else that night. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. I think that having that the semi final
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  Speaker 2: set literally two days before the actual pay per view
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  Speaker 2: kind of hurt the pay per view a little bit
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  Speaker 2: and the hype around it. I wish they would have
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  Speaker 2: ended it at least a week earlier so that you
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  Speaker 2: could had vignette or in ring promos just to raise
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  Speaker 2: the angst, you know, raise raise the interest. I guess
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  Speaker 2: that's the best way to p also, I mean, think
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  Speaker 2: about it. They couldn't go out, like if John Moxley
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  Speaker 2: was out there on you know, in Chicago doing a
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  Speaker 2: press tour, you know, to hype up World's End on
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday Night, he couldn't say anything about his participation in
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  Speaker 2: the semi finals because that had not been determined yet,
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  Speaker 2: at least not on a national TV level. You understand
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying there. I mean it hurt. It hurt
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  Speaker 2: not only the the the booking for the show, but
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  Speaker 2: it also hurt the hype leading up to the show
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  Speaker 2: in different ways.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand, Like I was actually really interested in
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  Speaker 3: what was going on on that on that Christmas show,
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  Speaker 3: and I would have watched it, but it was Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I said it to record. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: start it until probably an hour and a half and
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  Speaker 1: uncause I was sot over at my brothers because he
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  Speaker 1: demanded that I watched Daddy's Home too, because he swore
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  Speaker 1: it was the Christmas movie and sadly bastards right, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I didn't even start so late. A week
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  Speaker 1: earlier would have been perfect, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I mean it's Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: People with families are probably getting you know, with the
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  Speaker 2: kids probably getting up at five to five am in
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  Speaker 2: the morning because they were excited about opening their presence
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  Speaker 2: from Santa. I know, I did it when I was
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  Speaker 2: a kid. The parents are probably exhausted. I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people were probably in bed by nine pm
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  Speaker 2: Eastern time when Christmas collisions started. I'm just saying, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it was her shatteringly bad. Don't get
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  Speaker 2: me wrong. I just think I'm just saying I would
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  Speaker 2: have probably done it somewhat a different way. But let's
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  Speaker 2: move on, because guess what else happened at world's end.
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  Speaker 2: We have a new a W men's World champion. My scumbag,
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  Speaker 2: my scumbag. He's our scumbag, he is everybody's scumbag.
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  Speaker 1: He's the world scumbag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now he's gonna be appearing tomorrow night on Dynamite.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to hear what you guys think is
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen on Dynamite tomorrow night. And of course, also,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: what do you think about MGF winning the world championship
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  Speaker 2: at World Sad.
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  Speaker 3: I know exactly what's gonna happen. Gloating, gloating of epic proportions.
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  Speaker 2: I love.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I as soon as he came back, I was rooting
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  Speaker 3: for him. He is indeed my scumbag, and I wanted
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  Speaker 3: him to win and he did. Like I said, this
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  Speaker 3: show was booked for me, so I was quite happy
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  Speaker 3: to see him win.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, gloating is definitely gonna happen. I
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  Speaker 1: will bet anyone twenty seven million dollars that we are reminded.
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  Speaker 1: His name is Maxwell Jacob Freedman, and he is better
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  Speaker 1: than us. And we know it, damn right, we did,
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  Speaker 1: you know? I His return promo was great, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the fact he did a squash match before, like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: where he was the guy who would never wrestle and
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: now he's the guy who says he's gonna wrestle but
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  Speaker 1: still spends eighty five percent of the match on the outside,
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  Speaker 1: just waiting for his spot. And you know, he took
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: it brilliantly. The way he won the title was brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: Him beating Joe at the pay per view where Joe
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: beat him. I mean, that's a full circle moment. I'm
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: excited to see the title run. I wasn't particularly happy
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: that hang Man lost so soon after winning the title.
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  Speaker 1: But I see why they did it. I see why
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  Speaker 1: they put it on Shoe. You know, you have this moment.
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  Speaker 1: Hang Man's going to be over as a baby face
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  Speaker 1: no matter what he does, just because we've been on
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  Speaker 1: this whole crazy journey with him for years and him
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  Speaker 1: being you know, him and Swerve can both say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we weren't pinned, we won our shot, and m JF,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: being the scumbag he is, will probably be like, fight
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  Speaker 1: for it and then we can get more out of that,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: you know, the greatest rivalry in aw history. While MJF,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: you know, fused with someone else and then we get
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: hang Man, then we get Swore. There's so many matches
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  Speaker 1: for him to potentially have. I'm looking forward to the
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  Speaker 1: run overall.
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  Speaker 3: You know what makes it even more for all you
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: need just one little note here, you know what makes
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: it even more full Circley, Do you know who else
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: was back kind of at World's end? Adam Cole? Baby?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually missed it up a little bit when
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I saw him on the screen. I'm not gonna lie
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I did. I mean. I really like Adam Cole. He's
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  Speaker 2: a great talker. Unfortunately, because of the injuries, we haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen the extent of what he can do in the ring.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think that they're and I do hope
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  Speaker 2: that aw As plans for Adam Cole in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: six if he's able to travel. If he's able to travel,
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  Speaker 2: then I think we'll see a lot more of him.
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  Speaker 2: If not, we may see a lot more of him
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  Speaker 2: like we did at World's End. Remotely true.
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  Speaker 3: Priority number one for me is Adam Cole's health. Priority
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  Speaker 3: number two. Priority number two for me is a Brochacho reunion.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know if you caught this,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that MJF did a tribute to Adam
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  Speaker 2: Cole during World's End because he was looking mighty yellow.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Well he also Sunrise, Yeah he did, but I'm just
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  Speaker 2: saying he he looked like yellow bastard. He sure did.
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  Speaker 2: But look, when it comes to what I expect for
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night, I put a little bit, well a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: far too much, far too much thought into this. Here's
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: what I want to see tomorrow night. I want to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: hear MGS music hit. I want to see him come
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  Speaker 2: out carrying a Birdberry briefcase. I want to see it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see it, see him carrying a Birdy.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: He has the belt stop straight on his shoulder, but
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he's carrying a Birdbery briefcase. He gets in the rink
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: because when he won the championship at World's End, he
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: was like this. He basically said, this stuff is coming
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: off right away, you know, pointing to the straps and whatnot.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So I think in the briefcase, which is kind of
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a tongue in cheek throwback to the Death Writers and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: John Moxley's run with the aw Men's World Championship, he
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: brings the briefcase to the ring, the Burbery briefcase to
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the ring. He throws the aw Men's World title into
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the trash like he did the last time, opens up
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the Birdbery briefcase and there you have the triple B.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: He's got to bring out the triple B tomorrow night.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I just think the briefcase would be an mjfish touch.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: The triple B in the triple B, the big Breverery
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: belt in the big Birbery briefcase.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's a big Yeah. It's that would make it a
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: quad B, wouldn't it. No, No, triple B in a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: bit of briefcase is a quad be. So there you go.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: No, but b B B B B B.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, we're getting a little weird here, But anyway,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I do want to give a shout out to the
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: greatest transitional champion in a W history, Samoa Joe. You
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: can't deny that he's just he's been a transitional champion
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: every time that he's had the bell. He is. He's
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: good at it. Uh, I don't know.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: I also like to thank Samoa Joe for the beautiful
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: tribute to early era Dark Order with his squad of
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: nameless creepers.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah oh boy. But anyway, uh, let's move on because
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: we've got a lot to talk about. I want to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: talk If you look at the graphic on the screen,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: that is techless graphic graphic. I want to talk about
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the women's division because as we sit right now, we've
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: got the aw Women's World Championship, we've got the AWTBS Championship,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and we've got the Women's Tag Team World Championship. What
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: we don't have is really any clear and obvious challengers.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could say Athena for Mercedes Monet, but there's
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: absolutely no one that I can think of that is
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a clear and obvious contender for Chris Statlanders title and neither.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: There's nobody that I can think of that is a
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: contender for the Women's World tag team titles. The reason
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I put Tekla's graphic up is because she's one of
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: those that could be in line to challenge for all.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I really think she's a viable contender for all three.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: But what I'm interested in knowing is who do you
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: guys think are viable contenders for each of these championships?
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Don't forget keep in mind also that the next pay
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: per view for aw isn't until March Revolution. Yes we have,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: but also keep in the back of your head that
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we have a w Grand Slam Sydney on I want
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to say February fourteenth or fifteenth, I can't remember which.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's for February fourteenth, So we do have
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: that in about a month and a half.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Valentine's Day in Sydney.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well so so. But anyway, who do you let's
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: start with the Women's World Championship, who do you think
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: is a viable contender for let's us go right to Revolution.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Who right at the top of your mind, who do
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you think is going to challenge Chris Statlander at Revolution
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: for the AW Women's World Championship.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, why not Tecla. There's plenty of time to get
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: a good build for it. She's more than game. It'd
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: be a great match. I'd love to see it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I agree, honestly, I agree.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually thought Tecla as well. Now Tecla was
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: going to be she has like a little bit of
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: a mini feud, I guess put together with Jamie Hater.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe they have a match to determine which one of
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: them gets the title shot, because the match at World's
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: End was very competitive between Hater and Statlander, So we
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: shall see there. What about the TBS chapter.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say that'd be a good match for
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Grand Slam Sidney, Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: It would be. Now what about the TBS Championship? Uh, look,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: we've got this is an interesting case because we've got
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Willow Nightingale versus Mercedes Monet on AW Dynamite New Year
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Smash Tomorrow Night. This first and foremost, does anybody see
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Willow Nightingale defeating Mercedes Monee?
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Whoa I it to happen?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, But then again, our predictions haven't exactly been
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: stellar lately, and it would play into the slowly burgeoning
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: but long awaited money breakdown.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: It's happening.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I'm loving it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: You know, on one hand, I look at it two ways,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: one hand, two ways, on two hands, two ways. I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: guess one if anybody has been listening to these podcasts,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I am not one that enjoys a wrestler having two
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: aw belts at once. I did not like Samoa Joe,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: for example, having the Trios title and the aw Men's
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: World Championship at the same time, but I knew that
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: he would be. He was just going to be a
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: transitional champion with the aw Men's World Championship, so I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: wasn't really what was that. I wasn't really upset about
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: that because I knew it was a transitional championship. But anyway,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Willow Nightingale has also been a transitional championship champion before.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Don't forget when Mercedes Monet beat or what Mercedes Monee
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: won the TBS Championship. She defeated Willow Nightingale. Now, the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: big thing with that was is that I personally don't
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: feel that it was ever supposed to be Mercedes Bonet
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: winning the championship off of Willow Nightingale. I firmly believe
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: that she was supposed to win it off of Julia Hart,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: but Julia Hart injured her shoulder and so she lost
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the championship to Willow Nightingale. And I think Willow Nightingale
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: only held the belt for like thirty five days if
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, before she lost it to Mercedes Monet.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So this is another one of those full circle moments
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: where we have Mercedes Monet facing Willow Nightingale. Will Nightingale
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: may win this title and be a transitional champion that
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: you'll lose it in the next month like she did
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the last time. What do you guys think about that possible?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I'd kind of like to throw into
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: this mix is Meghan Dane with Penelope out. She's kind
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: of out of partner and she's too cool to just
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: like have like just fiddle around until then.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Megan Bain would be a really good good pick. I
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: do agree with you there. What about you, Chris?
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: You know I was going to kind of agree with
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you on Willow being a transitional champion couldn't work, But
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I gotta go with just man put it on Megan Bain, like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: let her be the one to bead Mercedes. It's a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: big moment, and you know she's strong, she's powerful, she's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you know, gotten over with the crowd decently. You know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: she's a workforce. Based on her schedule in the last
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: couple of months. Yeah, put the title on her. I'm
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: one on board the get on the bean train, get
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: on the bank.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I gotta say this, it's a little bit off topic,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: but a couple of days ago, Stardom held their Dream
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Queendom pay per view. Megan Baine did participate in it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: She was in a tag match that went to a
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: timing the draw. But on one of her opponents was Bozilla,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and those two, my god, some of the things they did.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, of course, they did the bit where they
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: ran the ropes and slammityt each into each other and
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: either of the budge Bosilla hit Megan Baine with a
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: couple of tremendous power bombs. But what I was one
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of the things I was most impressed about. Meggan Bain
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: did a top rope per conrona on Bosilla. Why.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I felt that it was freaking awesome.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I was like that those two women, I applaud them.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, they are they're not tiny. People
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: put it that way, and I mean that respectfully. I
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: love both of them, but to see if if there
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: were two men of commensurate size doing that, we'd be like, wow,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: go look up, there's you can find the highlights of
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: this on x Just look up Megan Bain, Dream Queendom
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: or something to that effect, and you'll see video highlights
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: of it. It is astounding. The other thing that I
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: found astounding about it both of them was the speed
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: at which they moved in the ring. Absolutely fantastic. But
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I agree with both of you. Meghan Bain would be
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: a great choice in this in this case, I really do.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Let's let's move on to the women's tag team champions
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: because this at this event, I don't see any teams.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I really don't can't think of one that hasn't already
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: been there, done that.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: As soon as you mentioned, as soon as you reminded
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: me that Grand Slam is going to be in Sydney,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: give the Love Bombs their rematch.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again that's a been there, done that kind
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: of thing.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's no no challengers that they really haven't
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: faced already. The division is really thinned right now. Unfortunately,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: They yeah, I mean they did. You know, aw did
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: make Hienne and My World all elite after but during
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Zero Hour, which I am so happy for those two.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: They do have Lena Cross in the in the shadows there.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Putting Lane across with with Megan Bain would be unbelievable,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you know that. I mean I could see those two
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: forming up, and I believe that they have tagged in
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the recent past, like since October together. I think they lost,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but they have tags, so they do know each other
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and do have hopefully some character, some chemistry with each other.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: There's also don't like Dakota Kai or Charlie as she's
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: now known. I don't think she's going by the ev moniker,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: but she's another person that they can bring in.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: You want to hear a bonkers rumor, go for it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I have no substantiate substantiation on this. This is all
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: rumor and innuendo. I need to make that clear. But
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I heard through the through the inter tubes that Bailey
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: may be thinking of jumping. Imagine Bailey and Dakota Kai
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: and the tag team tag team scene.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Well, that that's true. The reason I didn't bring Bailey
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: up is simply because Bailey's contract apparently goes through the
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty six, so if she jumps, it's
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: not going to be anytime soon. And this is something
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: that and this is something that I looked up actually
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. So yeah, Bailey's pretty much wrapped up
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: in WWE unless she gets a release until twenty twenty.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: At the end of twenty twenty.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Six addition to the roster, though.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: It.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Was something like June of last year where she did
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: an interview and she said, I still have a year
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: and a half left on my content.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Well maybe twenty twenty seven will be good to us.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, I mean.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Look, the women's tag edition right now, maybe try to
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: bring in an international team to at least you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Chatlenge and you got his part, trying to build up
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: more teams, honestly, to create more teams, because right now
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: there's not even enough. I mean there's okay, we've got
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Babes of Breath, We've got we've got Timeless Love. Uh
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: hi ja, Yeah, that's it, and I think you probably will.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can even count you can even
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: put in there Billy Starks at the theater or even
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Billy Starks in Diamante from Ring of Honor, you know there,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: you can put that in there. I don't know, it's
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: I I think that the tournament that they did was
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: somewhat detrimental. I would love I would love to see
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: a tag team or even two tag teams from stardom
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: come over and challenge. I really would because well, first
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: of all, they're fantastic. I mean, Kaguma and a Zuki
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: are a very good choice. Yeah yeah, And then you know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: and it's never gonna happen because they simply don't wrestle
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: outside of Japan that much. I mean they had just
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: recently they wrestled UH in China for the first time.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I think that was their first matches in either of
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: their careers outside of Japan. And that's UH Sorrano and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and that's a boy Uh. That's another great team. I
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: mean you can even go be U Amasaki and Azumi.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: There's just so many teams out there. Starlight Kid at
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a Zumi, which is those are two women that I
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: know because Tony Kahn spoke of them in an interview
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: that he thinks highly of. So when you're looking at
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the women's tag team division, not saying that they should win,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: but there are people in stardom that could come in
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: and work these matches and fill in some gaps. I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: guess the best way of putting it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I've never seen her, and I've always Starlight Kid, and
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I've always meant to. She has like a very your
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: favorite wrestler's favorite wrestler vibe, so I definitely need to
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: check out more.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Joshi, Well, the thing about Starlight Kid, there's two things
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: that stand out about Starlight Kid. One is that she's
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: custom built to be popular with children, and she is.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: She's got this superhero vibe to her. The other thing
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: about Starlight Kid is she's tiny. There's just no other
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: way around it. She makes Rio look like a giant.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean anything because like, what's your name,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Sayata from Stardom is four foot nine and she's built
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: like if she's built like Olypia. Are you familiar with
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Olympia from CML.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen her.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just if you look at Olypia, she's not
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: the biggest woman as far as height goes, but she
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: is a boulder. I mean, she's just one big set
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: of muscles. And that's the same way the same way
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: with Sayida.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I say, she's a brick out house.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Breakout house. Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I mean Sia either was the only woman in the
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: n jp W concourse though, which is like their kind
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: of like a body building their best body competition thing.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: She was the only woman in it.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and she my god, I mean I
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: ran across pictures as Siah Uh. She was just workout pictures,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: you know, like she was bodybuilding, and they had pictures
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: of her flexing, and I was like, I wouldn't want
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: to run to her in a dark alley. She killed me,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: all four foot nine of her. She's just she She
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: had all the same thing with Olympia. Again, not the hot,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: tallest women in the world, but just impressive physical specimens.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be tall, it would be impressive. Look,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I've said this about I've said this about Rio. You know,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Rio is five foot one, which there are women that
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: are smaller than she is as far as height. Her
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: ring attire kind of belies the fact that she's a unit.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: If you look at Rio, she is cut. She is
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: no joke. So you know, I can understand people looking
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: at her like little fairy outfit and say it, oh
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Japanese schoolgirl like Cornett says the creeper, you know. But
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is she's better than me,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: and I know it. You know what I mean. It's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: like I don't get it. But anyway, let's move on
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: because we've already talked a little bit about the Don
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Kallis family, but we're going to talk about him a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: little bit more because, you know what, I want to
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: go back just before we start this, because Jess on
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the discord, you made a observation about John Moxley's celebration
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: that I honestly did not notice. Do you remember what
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: you said?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do. I was actually waiting for an opportune
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: time to bring it up. So Mox's face is a
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: pretty much face. Now we've sort of discussed this already,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: and the question is whether or not that makes the
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: rest of the death writer's face by default, because the
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: writers will tend to follow Mox's ideology, and they were
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: all celebrating with him, there didn't seem to be a
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: shred of dissension. But somebody was very conspicuous us by
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: their absence, and that someone was pop Pack.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I act I did not even notice it. I did
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: not notice it until you posted it on Discord. By
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: the way, our Discord link is right there at the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: bottom of the screen. If you're watching us right now,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: it's or you could just look it up at ep
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: W Hub everything Pro Wrestling Hub.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I can't take all the credit for that observation. A
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: few other people saw it too during the live chat.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I didn't notice it at all, did you, Chris?
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I only noticed that he wasn't there at all, like
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: for the whole show, because I thought he was part
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: of that mixed nuts mayhem mats. At first, I like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I swear that's what I saw on the graphic, but
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: then it got fained, so it's like, well, maybe did
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: they let him go home for Christmas?
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe? But look, let's move on to the don Kallis family.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: Because uh we got some uh some stuff going on,
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: and the don Kallis family, Kyle Fletcher's pissed off, Takeshta's
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: pissed off.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Oh Kan has always pissed off. What do you think
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: is gonna happen with the don Kallis family. Somebody is
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: going to be leaving.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a meltdown. I don't think a sexy
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: picture is gonna fix I think the obvious choice is Takeshta.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: People love Takeshta. People have always loved Takeshta. People have
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: wanted to cheer Takeshta again since he turned heel. If
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: anybody is the de facto good guy in this whole
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: drama rama mess, it's him.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I want to interrupt you. Why do you say that?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Because if you've been watching takeshta matches, I agree with
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you that everybody wants to roof for Takeshta. But he
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: has literally given no reason or any indication that he's
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: turning babyface. If you watch his matches, he's heel through
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: and through.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but he's at odds with Okada, who is
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: the healiust of Heels Stitch. So being at odds with
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Okada sort of makes him face by default in that
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: uh dichotomy he's in.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a babyface in that particular situation. What I'm
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: saying is that he has not done anything. Hey, Conrad,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: what's up? We were talking about Takeshta. He has not
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: given any indication of being a babyface.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I would agree with that, except for in.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: As Jesus said, the situation with Okada. I think everybody
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: wants him to be a babyface, but he is not
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: giving any indication of being a babyface.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: But has he really done any outright tactics in his matches? Yes,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't really, you know, I haven't noticed
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: him like raking eyes or chokes or you know, he wrestles,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: already beats the ship out of his opponents. But I
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: haven't noticed him really doing anything dirty or cheap during
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: this matches.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Right, what about? Uh? What about you, Jess? Have you
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: noticed him doing anything pelish?
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Not particularly? It's a like a like was like what
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: was just said? Like he's a badass, he's not nice,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: but he hasn't Like I haven't seen him try to
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: on his own accord blatantly screwdriver or anyone, or break
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: eyes or kick people in the dick or give people
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the finger like some people.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: What about what about you? Show? He's not here? No,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here, Okay.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: You can call me Kai. I was ready to be
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: called show. I feel like big show than Paul White
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: or something. Yeah, whatever, call me whatever. But the Yeah,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I think Takesha has I think
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: we're all smart wrestling fans in here. So for the
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: most part, I think that we noticed the little things,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: like he really hasn't done heels stuff like his offense
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: is really a babyface's offense, the Blue Thunderbomb, and he
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: has a lot of exciting moves. I haven't noticed him
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: cheating or doing anything like that. I think that's why
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: they added that into the The World's End match, like
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: the screwdriver portion of it, like to let you know,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: like Okata is bad, Don Kallas is bad. These are
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: bad people you should not trust. It's kind of like
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: the Mafia when someone gets involved with them, but you're
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: kind of cheering for the good guy involved with them
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: when you watch those kinds of movies. I feel like
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: that's the position Takesha is in, and we all just
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: know better. But technically he is not a babyface yet.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right with you, Conrad. Look, I think we
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: can all agree that everybody wants not everybody, but a
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: lot of people want to root for Takeshta.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I mean you heard it.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: During the match, you know, when they had to strike
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: exchanges every time Okata hit boom, every time Taquesta hit yay,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Like people want to root for him, and I don't
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: think he needs to be a full on babyface, you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: playing into the crowd, you know, getting them behind him.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Like he can just be the badass, straightforward wrestler that
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: he is, and you know against Don Kallas and his duns.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Obviously people are gonna here for Taquesta, but he but
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: he could go against a guy like you know, Adam
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Page or Roder Strong Tyler O'Reilly, and the people are
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: going to tear for them because they are more outright babyfaces.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Takesta can be perfect in that badass in between role.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a heel when you need him to be.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: He's a face when you need him to be. But
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: he's always going to be young, damn good wrestler.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he's very much associated, especially since he's taken
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: on this alpha persona with Ony Imagery and Onnie is
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: a demon, but you can be a noble demon, but
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: a demon is still a demon, right.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Look, I want to move on because we're running out
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: of time here, and I do want to talk about
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: the New Year's Smash. Ricochet is going to be facing
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Jack Perry forty aw National Championship, and I've heard some
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: discourse about aw belts pop up. Even recently, we had
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: a post at the aw fat hub subreddit saying that
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the international title should be retired. Don't know about that,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: but I'm interested in hearing what you're gonna say. I'm
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: kind of upset that Barry isn't here because as when
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the AW National Title was initiated, he had said that
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: this is a title, and I believe it was. What
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: he said is that this was a title that should
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: be hopotatoed and shouldn't be held by somebody for very long.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: It should move from person to person. That being said,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: you guys may disagree with me here, but I really
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: don't see the difference between the AW National Title and
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: the TNT Championship. I really don't. I mean, I know
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: now there isn't much of one. Yeah, until they start
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: doing what like they did. They promise that they were
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: going to defend this title in other promotions et cetera.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: He defended in he defended it when they were over
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: in the UK. I know that, like, not on a
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: w or Ring of Honor TV, like I don't remember
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: the rev pro probably was because I think they kind
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: of I don't think they have a formal relationship with them,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: but I think kind of through you know, multiple people
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: work there, and New Japan has a partnership with a
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: loose kind of partnership with Red Pro. I think a
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: W also kind of has that loose partnership, so it
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: probably was over there.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Do you know, Conrad, if they have a partnership with them?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: No?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Did was it Red Pro? That? Uh? That Ricochet defended
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: the title up? Yeah?
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: I believe so. I believe that was the company. I
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: think he's got another one lined up too, doesn't He
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: could be wrong going back and forth with people.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: Anyway, the guys, do we have any of you see
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Jack Perry beating Ricochet tomorrow night for the National Championship.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really good that's really entertaining,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: and you know, you'll have katesa agony with the distraction
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: and Ricochet gets the classic heel win, which you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: further's what he is doing, and it makes it where
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Jack Perry's like, Okay, he didn't get beat straight up
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: so he could challenge it. He could challenge later on
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and win.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm going to pose the question of the
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: hour here. With Okada losing the continental title, the Unified
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: championship is now basically doesn't exist. I mean it exists,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: but it's not listed on the AW roster page as
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: a title because the title is no longer unified. So
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: right now there are nine active titles in a W
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: If you had to remove, move one title. Because so
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: many people are saying that AW as too many titles,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: which I do not agree with. I think that they
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: have the right amount of titles. I just think that
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: there are some titles that they are not pushing by
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: defending them as often as they should. But if you
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: have to remove one of the current titles, which would
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: you remove?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: I would? Sorry, I get rid of the Continental Make
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: it where the winner of the continental class that gets
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: a title shot at revolution and make it like really
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: mean something, and that way you have quite a while
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: to build you put your you know, make it like
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the g one you know, right, they get a title shot.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: It's a big paper.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Right, and that's a big deal because you do get
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: the title shot.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say, Uh, as
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: much potential as they have, they've never really lived up
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: to that potential. So go ahead. Next the trios titles.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: What about you, Conrad?
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Sorry, I keep muting myself just so no one hears
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: me breathe or something. I have all the titles pulled up.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I see a total of ten here. It's weird because
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: if you look at each one, you gotta have a world.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I do love that they have like a women's mid
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: card title. And then it depends on I guess your
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: feelings on certain things, and I'm going to kind of
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: agree with Jess with the with the tag titles. The
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: tag titles were great until you introduce the trios, and
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: then you had to take tag teams to fit into
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: the trios, and then it becomes like a difficult championship.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: To me, the trio's belt should be the land of misfits,
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: like where we don't have stuff for people to do.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Three of you can go together and be over here.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: So I don't disagree with I don't agree with taking
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: away the trios belts per se, but I think you
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: could do some kind of combination here because I love
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: the International title. I just like the look of it,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: even though it's similar to the women's but I think
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: that belt's just great looking. I would consider like the
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: National and the Continental and the International, Like you gotta
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: find a way I think to combine those three and
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: I think you would have yourself a solid like number
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: two championship. I would put that even over the TNT
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: at this point.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Also, there's are we counting the Dynamite Diamond Ring as
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: a title? No, I mean it is trophy, so it
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: is defended annually. But I guess like didn't even have
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: a say in it this year, which is kind of dumb.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: And the ring is his thing. But I love bandido,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: so I'm not going to complain too much.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised that that became like ring versus
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: title as well. But I think that the they have
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: so they have the aw World title, the Women's World title,
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: the TBS title, Continental Champion, and the World Tag champs.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Then you have Brisco with the TNT title, Trios title,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Ocatta still has the International Ricochet has the national title,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: and then you have the Babes of Wrath with the
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: tag titles.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have to agree with the trios thing. I
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: have said often in the past that the trios should
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: be combined with the Sixth Man because that's what they
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: call it, and Ring of Honor the trios titles. Conrad
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I agree with exactly what I think you were alluding
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: to or what you said. They use the trios teams
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: as tag team from the Tag Team division and add one.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: It's a trios plus one. There's not really other than
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the Ops and maybe the Elite now there are no
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: trios teams, you know, specific trios teams, and even I
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: would even say that the Young Bucks and the and
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Kenny Omega are are tag team plus one right now,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: So I would get I would, I would definitely get
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: rid of the trios. And I absolutely agree with Chris
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: the Continental should not be a belt, that should be
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: a trophy.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: And I agree with what you're saying too, Like I'm
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: not even saying if you didn't want to get rid
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: of the trios, that's fine, but combining them with the
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Ring of Honor and making some of these championships like hey,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: these will cross over. We will be able to do
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: this with these, Like I think that works.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I No, I agree with youonred percent there It's
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: just I again, I don't believe that AW has too
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: many titles. I just think that they may have too
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: many titles without really having a plan for them. And
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: they're definitely some titles like what was the last time.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I don't remember the last time the international title was defended.
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's because it was in that weird flex
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: of like it's being defendant when you defend the Unified Championship.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: I think Tony Kahn has to make sure. I think
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Aw' is good at writing storylines from let's just say
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: it's ABC D, right. They're good to get from A
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: to D and it feels worth it. But where they
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: miss things or in the middle of like B and C,
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: where it's like you have to explain what you are
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: doing with these because people were asking them, like so
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: those belts don't exist, No, they're still active.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: But it's funny you bring that up, Conrad, because that's
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: one of my pot pourri points. It really is. So
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: we're gonna discuss that right now. We're gonna go to
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: pot Pourrix. Pot Pourrix is where we can bring up anything,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: whether it's an A, W or any other promotion to
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: talk about. Uh so, does anybody have a pot pourrix I.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Do just a little fun, just a little fun observation
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: from World's End. Uh I noticed right away, and it
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: took some other people in the live chat. It took
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: me pointing it out and then then looking for themselves.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Speedball Mike Bailey was wearing Kevin Knight's pants. I pointed
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: that out and people were like, no, They're just wearing
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: different pants from different sets, and I'm like, no, Speedball
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: is wearing pants that say night on them and have
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: little jets. Turns out later the reason for this is
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: that the poor poor Speedball his luggage got lost. He
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: did eventually find it, but it's thank He just thinks
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: they're lucky stars that they have a tag partner who
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: is the same size as they are and happen to
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: have his extra set of pants.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, while you always keep this set of basic gear
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: in your carry on.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: There you go, anybody else have a potpourri before I
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: go mine? Yes?
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Is Orange Cassidy a home record? I mean dancing jumping
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: into her arms like that. Mina didn't look too happy
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: about it. I don't think he's on board with the
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: whole thing, Like, that's Mina's woman, she ain't gonna share her.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do expect in the near future of Mina
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: does bitch slap Orange Cassidy.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Tony can have two wives if she wants to.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: No, you can't. You get one wife that's just the
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: way it is.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Well, she is the horror we adore Tony Storm, so
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: she's she's buying into the character. I guess she's got
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: three lovers now, I guess. I don't know.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how does about? This is what I really want
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: to know.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that Juice has enough to handle at home
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: that he doesn't care about it in the wrestling ring,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: because I Juice did make a do an interview recently
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: that I saw recently, It was about about three or
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: four months ago, where he said more and more basically
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: that Tony stormers bringing the character home with him with her,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: so to speak.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: I guess my wife and my wife his wife.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: He had to pay all the parties for black and white.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. I'm sure. I'm sure they have
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: sofa covers on their sofa and stuff like that. Now,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: all right, So I'm gonna go with my pot pourri.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: And this has something to do with what Conrad brought
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: up just a little bit ago. Tony Kahan said in
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: a recent interview that he does not believe that most
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: of the hardcore aw fans quite understood the whole John
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: Moxley and Death Writer's story as it was going on.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: I think that, and I think it does go to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: what Conrad. I mean, I understood it when it began,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: and I understood it when it ended. It wasn't that
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: I maybe it's not that I didn't underst stand it
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: in sections B and C, as Conrad was alluding to.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Is just that it just became uninteresting and convoluted to me.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: And I think that's all, you know, if you look
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: at the what was said on social media about it,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people felt that way. I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: don't think there's any denying that a lot of hardcore
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: AW fans felt that way. What do you guys think
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: the time.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Say? I like, the beginning was great and interesting, the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: ending was really good, but that middle part there were
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: just some bits that were a bit muddy, a bit slow,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: a bit like, oh, this crap is happening again. I
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: mean the reason that I called them the North American
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: branch of House of Torture, like it was just the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: same damn crap every map, and not even just every
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: you know Moxley match, I mean every match any single
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: one of them was in. You knew at least one
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: other death riding bastard son of them. Yeah, it was
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: going to come in and interfere and just screw up everything,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: and like that is the overuse of interference pretty much
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: in general, is like one of my big pet peeves
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: and wrestling, like because it's like, okay, this is we
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: know it's not a fight, but it's supposed to be
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: similar to a fight, and the worst thing you can
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: do in a fight is have your buddy attacked your
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: opponent from behind, like that's a punkin. So when they
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: had them doing that constantly, it's like, Okay, this is
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: just a group of punk cast thugs just who can't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: win a fight on their own. That was.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Well, let's hear from Conrad.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the Death Writers thing, I
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: think people were too hard on it. I was saying
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: that from Jump Street though, like I'm like, you guys
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: are kind of being ridiculous in my opinion about it.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: Like I was like, why is everyone going so hard
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: about this? Like it felt like every month John Moxley
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: had to lose And I didn't agree with that. I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: was like, why why does he have to lose? And
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: then when he gets the heat and then in the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: end when we get to all in, I was like, oh,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: now everybody gets it. So was it just people being
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: impatient and wanting what they want it?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it just depends. It felt like a
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: very weird thing though, like people didn't want Moxley to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: be the champ, and I think he just used He
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: used what makes internet fans upset to get his heat,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: because that he knows that's Aw's core audience, because that's
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: what we were down to at that point. So I
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: thought Moxley played it precisely, very well. And then at
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: World's end I looked at everyone again and I said,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: even on my podcast, like, wow, I find it funny
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: that everybody was cheering for John Moxley. Now. It's almost
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: like he knows what he's doing, you know, like I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: think he I think he made it work for.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Him, right, Yeah, Because we even said earlier in the show, Conrad,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: you know, John Moxley was getting these cheers organically. I mean,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: he didn't do anything baby faces, I guess is the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: best way to put it to earn those cheers. It's
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: just people wanted a cheer for him, and you can't
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: stop the people from doing what they want. Look, my
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: problem with the death writers is that are reminded me
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: so much of the Outcast. You remember the Outcasts, where
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: you had who wasn't Tony Storm, Soreya God, who else
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: was in the outcast? Ruby? Soho Harley was I.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Think early on?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you'd have you knew that it
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: was going to be at least at any rate. You
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: knew it was going to be at least three on
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: one every time an Outcast member was in a match,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: and yet the baby faces I guess you could call
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: them in the Aw's women's division, were too stupid to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: realize this, and they were getting because it was always
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: one on three. And this was my problem with the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: death writers. It started out so good and that it
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: just died out to the point where as Chris said
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: it was repetitive, it was kind of stupid, to be
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: honest with you, because it was kind of reminded me
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: of the Outcast thing, with the constant ear interference, with
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: the opponents not being smart enough to realize that it
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: was coming, even though it happened two times a week
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: for damn near nine months. Right, It started good at
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: the end of at the end of it, when Hagman
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: beat Moxley, I mean Hagman wins or we riot. That
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: was the whole point. You know, everybody wanted to see
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: And I could say that with all confidence that every
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: single AW fan wanted to see Moxley lose the title.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Now that is a testament to John Moxley. But I
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: disagree with Tony Kahan that people didn't understand it. If
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: people didn't understand it, that's on you, Tony Khan, because
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: you didn't tell the story right. People did. If hardcore
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: AW fans out of a if Tony Cohn's mouth, hardcore
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: AW fans didn't understand the John Moxley death writer's story,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: that's on you, Tony Khan. You did not tell the
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: story right. I am sorry, but that's truth. Personally, I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: liked it when it began because remember it was like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: attempted murders the first couple of weeks. Then it got
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: playing stupid, and then at the end it wasn't a
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: great story. At the end, it was the fact that
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: it was over, or at least we thought it was,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: you know, the story ended. That's that's what it was.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: That's what people were excited about, not not that the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: story was great, but that the story was over. That's
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: my personal opinion on.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: It, and I like, I don't think people necessarily wanted
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: to boom. You know Moxley Claudio talk like you know,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I'll again, here's the house of torture comparison. People like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: these wrestlers. You know, I like Moxley, I like, sure, yeah,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I like Claudio, like I like written Rita
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: and Doki and Yoshinobu Kanovar. You know, I like Pop
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the same way like Sonata. What I don't like is
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: them being a little bitch. Isn't always having to have help?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Like you're great wrestlers, you know, you want to be heeled,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: you want to be dirty, you want to be nasty,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: great eyes. Shoke people, you know, fling them in, did
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: the barricade, Like, be absolute beast and don't give us
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: f about the rules. But don't use your other guys.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Use your wrestling, use your know how, use your viciousness,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: you know, gouge people in behind, choke them, you know,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: distract the wrapic kick them in the balls. But don't
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: use other people. And I think that is where most
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: people had a problem with, Like it was the constant interfering.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: You know what parallel I haven't heard made yet This
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: is something I've thought of a bit in retrospect, that
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: the story of the Death Writers and Hangman Page was
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: a smarter and mercifully shorter version of the bloodlining Cody Rose.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Thank you. I was waiting to say that thank you,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: Like only this.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: I sat through all of that, Like I stopped watching
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: WWE at all after Cody won the title, because that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: was really the only thing I was sticking around for.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: I wanted to see it happen. It finally happened, and.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I was done.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Uh, it had gotten more than too much for me
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: way before that. I just wanted to see the stupid
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: story end before I finished.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the story.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, if you guys thought death Writers were tedious,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: you would not have survived the entirety of the Blood Line.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Well do Conrad, do you think that one of the
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: things that may have made the Death Writers Tearing tedious
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: to some pro wrestling fans, not just hardcorey w fans,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: is that the similarities between the Death Writers and the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Blood Line.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: I yes, I think that. I think when a w
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: was down that Sam punk Cloud did not leave, and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: I'm sure when is the anniversary of that. We still
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: got a couple more years. Once we hit like five
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: to ten years, you're gonna see a lot of videos
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: and a lot of talk about it. That dark cloud
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: followed them, and I think they just got that cloud
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: off of them. I want to say this year like
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: maybe double or nothing.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Agree.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: Agree, It took them a long time. So Tony Khan
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: was looking for anything and everyone. And what's one of
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: Tony Khan's number one breaking case of emergencies. It's always
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: been and always probably will be as long as he
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: has them. John every time, I don't think.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, would you say Conrad that John Moxley is
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: the ace of a w.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would. I would give him that title absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: He delivers every time, whether you like him or not,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: he always finds a way to deliver. And I think
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: Tony was looking for we're not cool anymore? What is cool?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: And everybody went crazy for the I call it the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: Avengers endgame finish at WrestleMania forty. He was like, well,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: we're gonna do the same thing, but we're gonna do
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: it our way, and we're gonna do it better than
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: they did it because we have twist and turns with
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: our people and characters with like the swerve, will Osprey
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: helping him getting taken out like a lot of stuff.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Because when we got to double or Nothing, I loved
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: that I didn't know who was gonna win between Will
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Ospray and Hangman, because in my mind, if you would
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: have asked me, probably a few weeks before, I'm like,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: it's Will Ospray all the way. You got to give
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: this guy the title. But Hangman's story became so compelling
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: that I was like, you gotta do it. And then
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: Tony had an option, Let's go this way, and that's
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: what he decided to do, and it probably played out
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: better because imagine if will was the champ, he gets hurt,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: you fall into that same thing. I just think that
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: he looked to see what was cool, who would be
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: able to execute this and do it right, and it
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: was Moxley. And maybe Moxley rambled sometimes and once again,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: it wasn't pretty sometimes getting through B and C the
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: title defenses and people getting suplexed on things. But Moxley
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: always had you talking. His name was always mentioned on
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: every podcast in the streets, and they found a way
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: to make it work.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I when I found so sorry.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Let me just make one point Jess, I agree with
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: you that John Moxley was always mentioned, but always wasn't
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: positive for sure. For sure, God, Jess.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: I joined this podcast in the thick of between B
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: and C, and I felt like sometimes I felt like
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: I was taking crazy pills because I was like the
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: lone death writer apologist you were, because what I saw
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: is basically a story of this is what happens when
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Batman gets tired of cleaning up everyone's messes. Not Superman.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Superman's too too goodie, too smooth edged. Max is Batman.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: He will get shit done, so it won't be pretty,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: but he will always get shit done. But what happens
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: when he is sick of cleaning up every single disaster?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: The Death Writers is what happened.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you remember during this podcast, I was
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: having trouble even, you know, maintaining attention when the pod
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: when Death Writers came out, I was like, Okay, it's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: a death Writer's match. I'll just wait till the end
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: when everybody does the same thing that they've always done,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: is just attack and basically run.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: I think that was by design, though, because if everybody's
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: feeling it when the bloodline does it, is that something
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: that we need to do with our own twist on it.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: It's I'm trying to think of other scenarios where other
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: companies have done it. We've all seen it where like
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: you know, someone's trying to be staying to take out
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: the nWo and they may not say it's the same
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: thing when they came up with nWo WWF came up
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: with DX. All that stuff, to me follows a similar pattern.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: I think that's what AW is just trying to do.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: Like people like it over there, they gotta like it
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: over here. And sometimes that's a mistake to do that
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: in my opinion too.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: But to each I agree with you, that's a very
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: good point. My whole thing was is that. And I
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: understand Jess really really was the apologist for the Death Writer.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: She was very much into itself. Guys like MK, we
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: were like, just end it already, please, this is awful.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: And I really did. I will one say, And it
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter whether it being a hardcore AW fan, whether
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: I understood it or not. It was a simple fact
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: that I didn't enjoy it. I didn't enjoy it at all.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: There wasn't a for the first two or three weeks.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I liked it, and I like the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: ending simply because it was the ending. Does anybody else
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: have a potpourri that they want to bring up?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: All?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Right, then well that'll be the end of the show.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Then we'll be back again Tuesday night next week, eight
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: forty five Eastern time. Right here, you can watch us
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: on x you can join us in the chat, you
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: can watch us on Twitch, and I am happy to
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: announce for the first time next week it looks like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: we are going to be live on YouTube as well,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: finally after two and a half three months trying to
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: get us done. So yes, so we will be live
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: on YouTube as well. So that's look. Before we go,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I did want to bring up something since Conrad is here,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: we have combined our two Discord servers very successfully, I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: may add, it's been so much fun. We are now
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: at https forward slash forward slash, Discord dot gg forward
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: slash epw UB. If you're watching this on x you
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: can see the Discord link right there at the bottom
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: of your screen. If you're listening to this on Spotify
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: or Apple Podcast or whatnot, we will be putting the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: link in the podcast description. Please join us there also
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: with aw fan Hub in particular, you can follow us
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: on x Instagram threads. Where else are we? Of course
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Reddit and YouTube? And where else? A blue sky Blue Sky.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: We are very close, very close to hitting one hundred
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: thousand members in the aw fan Hub. Why should say
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: the everything Pro Wrestling Hub community. Actually, we're probably over
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand members. I'm only counting the social media
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: platforms that I manage. Conrad manages. What do you have, Conrad?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: You have? You have break basically everything we do right?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I have Instagram? Uh, you name it? I have it?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I should add? You? Your your
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: stuff into it? And what is If people are interested,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Conrad in joining your communities, how do they find you?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: Basically I've combined with you on Discord, So make sure
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: that you guys go to uh what the link you
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: had said before? Discord dot gg slash, EPW hub. Don't
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: forget to put the https in front of it, but
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: I'm sure if you search it it'll pop up. You
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: guys can follow me at EPW show. I'm on YouTube,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: I'm on uh, Instagram, you name it, blue sky, all
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: of them. EPW show is probably the best way to
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: follow me. You guys can come on over and then
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: we'll talk some pro wrestling. Man, it's fun.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you do WWE podcast as well, correct.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: I do those as well. I actually have a plan
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: New Japan special. No one knows that yet, but I'm
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: working on something for New Japan this week as well.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: I try to talk. I try to talk everything as
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: much as I can, so.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: I will talk New Japan. I will be more than
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: if you need someone, if you.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Will that be? Will that be on YouTube?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Conrad? Yeah?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The the plan is it's gonna be more so
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: about Tanahashi for this one, but I might I might
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: run down the card too for the show if if
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: my guy can make it, who I have planned for it.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: He's he's busy right now at work.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Well, Chris is a New Japan junkie, my guys, and
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: he can he can speak. He can speak very semi
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: intelligence semi intelligently about But if you are just going
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: on the YouTube for ep uh E p W show,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: they are really good in the chat. If you chat
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: with them, they're really good. But I'm so impressed by
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: how you do it too. You give shout outs constantly
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: and interact with your audience so well and I appreciate.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, when I'm there, you always, you know, talk
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: to me and other people. Anybody that has a comment,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: you pretty much address all of them. I don't know
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: how you do it, but it's really cool.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the difference I tried to make with
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: my show compared to other people's. Is the interactive element
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: for it. I think it's key because a lot of
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: people will send super chats. You don't get your super
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: chat read to the end of people's podcast when there's
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: a lot of people. And I always tell people, one
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: day it may get to that point, but if not,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you guys throw something in there, I'll
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: talk about it for a second. I can't. I tell
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: people some weeks like hey, I can't get to every comment,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: but I do try to at least acknowledge them if
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: it's with it the topic. While we're talking about I
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: try to go in order of the show.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you do a fantastic job over there.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: Your podcast are so well put together. Thank you. You
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: guys do great. It's very I wish I could stay longer,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: but unfortunately I can't. Those those days off that I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: have from our podcast are kind of premium time. For
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: me to spend with my family and friends and always
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: have something going on. But every time i'm there for
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: I try. I try to stay for a good fifteen
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: twenty minutes in your podcast, and they're very, very good,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: and I am really looking forward to hearing your your fun.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: You're gonna be doing a what Conrad tomorrow night when
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: you do your pot You're doing a podcast for AW
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night for the Holidays, New Year's Spash post show.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: When do you begin the podcast? Does it begin during
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: the show or does it begin right after the show?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: Usually right after, so the moment the show ends, I
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: am trying to get to the restroom if I need
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: to grab a drink, water or something so that I
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: could talk about it, and then I try to breeze
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: through it. I've been trying to make them like under
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: an hour for people if I can. Some weeks, the
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: shows are so long that's not going to happen. If
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: it's a three hour show, I usually move it to
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: like Thursday, so that way I could cover it in full.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: So it's.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: We stop doing our aw Fanta podcast because you guys
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: just knocking out of the park every week. And and
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I don't mean that as any kind of I'm not
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: upset about it. I just I think it's fantastic. Yet.
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  Speaker 2: You guys do a fantastic job. And I do encourage
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: everybody to go listen to EPW show on YouTube and
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  Speaker 2: chat away because like I said, if you chat, they're
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: more than life going to address you if they can
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  Speaker 2: so appreciate the shout. You not a problem.
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  Speaker 4: I've been a long time listener, first time guests, so
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  Speaker 4: well everybody.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing about That's the thing about this community.
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  Speaker 2: We can have up to ten podcasters on these shows,
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  Speaker 2: and we encourage participation. So anybody that's listening, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to be a part of this podcast. We are
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: not professionals, obviously, but we just want to have fun.
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  Speaker 2: We are hardcore AW fans talking about AW. You don't
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: have to be a hardcore AW fan if you want
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: to participate in these podcasts, all you have to do
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: is join our discord, contact Kelson and say hey, I
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  Speaker 2: want to be a part of the podcast. I'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to you on voice chat to make sure that you're
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  Speaker 2: you know your equipment. I mean a lot of people
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: just use their phones. That's fine, but we want to
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: make sure that we can understand you, and then other
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: than that, you're in So join us because we have
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: a revolving door of people that come into the Pack
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: podcast every week. And that's what this community is about,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: is community participation. And I think Conrad, we'll agree with
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  Speaker 2: that based on what we've done on Discord Together, because
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: that is a hop and discord.
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  Speaker 4: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I love having fans and fans talk and wrestling. I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: think it's where you get the truest and realist forms
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: of how people feel.
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  Speaker 2: All right, then, so forty a w fan podcast team.
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  Speaker 2: This is Kelson, good night, everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Good night Eddie Kingston.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that