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Adam Thielen trash? Plus NFC/AFC North breakdown and predictions ! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I think we're live now. You know what
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  Speaker 1: we're We're just gonna go with this. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode, episode number fifty five of
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  Speaker 1: the So called Sports Analyst. Josh.
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  Speaker 2: but it's the most We're getting to the most important
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  Speaker 2: time of the year. There's no more important time than
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  Speaker 2: the NFL season, and that's what we're gonna talk about today. Boys,
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  Speaker 2: AFC North Division, NFC North Division predictions, MVPs, breakout players,
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  Speaker 2: how the rosters are shaping up. What we think is
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen, is gonna happen today.
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  Speaker 1: anybody who likes sports. But before we talk about as
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  Speaker 1: far as the North North divisions, we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of news here. So the first major
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  Speaker 1: news right here is two quarterbacks they got signed Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Love four years, twound and twenty million, fifty five million.
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  Speaker 1: And to it, he got a fifty three million dollars
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  Speaker 1: a year contract and four years. So how do you
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  Speaker 1: feel about those two major cannonballs right there?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like my team is winning. We're winning, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know we're supposed to be talking about
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  Speaker 2: these guys. But when they sign with Holmes, they were like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna have the Chiefs in a buying. That's gonna achieve. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: look at the deal's looking a lot more sweeter now
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  Speaker 2: after these contract Yeah, it looks it looks like we
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  Speaker 2: have the best player in the world on the eleventh
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  Speaker 2: highest page quarterback contract. I'm okay with that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: my dude setting us up nice. But for Jordan Love,
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot to live up to. Man, Jordan Love's
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to live up to this contract. And I
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  Speaker 2: get it. You have to secure your guy. He did
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  Speaker 2: the right thing, he played well last year, great season,
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  Speaker 2: do it again. You gotta keep doing it now. And
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  Speaker 2: it's it's only gonna suck for teams like the Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: who have to resign Dak. Dak's gonna want more money
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  Speaker 2: than Jordan Love. So it's gonna be. And this is
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  Speaker 2: for other teams coming up. I don't, I don't, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know I don't believe. I don't know entirely who's
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  Speaker 2: getting signed coming up because a couple of guys already
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  Speaker 2: got paid. Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna demand some big
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  Speaker 2: contracts if they're even in the realm of a of
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  Speaker 2: a Jordan Love and as far as Tua Good that
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  Speaker 2: that's a good contract for him good. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of shaping up a little bit weird. I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like the more and more we get these
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  Speaker 2: big contracts, the more and more we're gonna lean towards
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  Speaker 2: having a quarterback cap separate from the salary cap, because
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  Speaker 2: these contracts, a yeah, getting way too big right now,
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  Speaker 2: especially I get the contract increases a little bit every
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  Speaker 2: single year, the salary cap increases a little bit every year,
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  Speaker 2: but it's nowhere near enough what these players are demanding.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: We even got Justin Jefferson thirty eight MILLI year. CD's
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  Speaker 2: probably gonna get thirty five. It's gonna be, Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be. This contract situations are gonna be pretty pretty
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  Speaker 2: hard to manage these next couple of years for some
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  Speaker 2: big teams.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it, it definitely is. We'll talk about the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later. But as far as these two quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 1: I think these are two quarterbacks where yes, they did
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  Speaker 1: deserve their money, but I feel like it's pretty questionable
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  Speaker 1: if that makes sense, because to what he depends on,
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  Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill Jalen Wattle, and you're gonna still need to
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  Speaker 1: pay those guys. How that arm looked, Yeah, we saw
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  Speaker 1: exactly how that was. And Jordan love as much as
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  Speaker 1: I love his potential, no pun intending.
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  Speaker 2: Hasn't hit it.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't hit it his first eight games. We talked
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  Speaker 1: about it entirely through the first eight eight nine games.
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  Speaker 1: He was struggling, very very bad. And yes he ended
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  Speaker 1: on a good note, but that doesn't mean he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: continue it on props to his agent, props to him
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  Speaker 1: forgetting his money, because you surely do deserve that. But
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  Speaker 1: like Josh said, you got to you gotta keep on
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  Speaker 1: keep on progressing from there because now you're that guy,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna see what the full season of film on you,
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  Speaker 1: how good you really are. And well, let's go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and bring it up because the Cowboys, they we don't
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  Speaker 1: know the official reports on it. We just know it happened.
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  Speaker 1: They offered a contract to Dak and CD So where
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  Speaker 1: do you think that realm? As far as how much
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  Speaker 1: you think do you think they offered Dak here compared
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  Speaker 1: to man, what Jordan Love and two?
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  Speaker 2: It just got what was four year two twenty one?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty five and one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, four year, four years, two sixty Bro. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna blow that contract out the
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  Speaker 2: water if they're all and they probably offered it to
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  Speaker 2: him before Jordan Love signed. So imagine where it was
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  Speaker 2: at then to now it's going up. The price is
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  Speaker 2: going up because compared to what people say, Dak Prescott
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  Speaker 2: is an accomplish quarterback in this NFL. He's a good
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in the in in this NFL, consistent winner in
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  Speaker 2: the regular season. You know, but he's last year almost
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  Speaker 2: second in MVP. I just think, you know, it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: the demand's gonna be a lot for the Cowboys to
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  Speaker 2: take on. And with cd CD is gonna hold out.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna want that that thirty five to thirty six
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  Speaker 2: MILLI year. And if it'sn't, if it's not that, it's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a tough time in Dallas. It's they way
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  Speaker 2: too long, man. Dallas waits way too long to sign
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  Speaker 2: their players. Like teams sign their players on their third
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  Speaker 2: year going into their fourth and then they have the
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  Speaker 2: option still, so they technically they sign them three years
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  Speaker 2: an extension after two years that makes it like a
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  Speaker 2: six year contract. So these guys aren't go anywhere. But
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys decided to wait at last minute for everything.
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  Speaker 2: They should get these extensions done early. They should get
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  Speaker 2: these deals done early like other teams do. The Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: for example, they do it all the time. The forty
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  Speaker 2: nine Ers do it all the time. They signed, trade,
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  Speaker 2: sign trade. These teams that remain in the top, they
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  Speaker 2: know how to play the contract situation. I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like Jerry just sits way too long and waits for
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  Speaker 2: these contracts for these players. To get better and their
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  Speaker 2: contract price goes up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was looking at it the other day.
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  Speaker 1: So the market for quarterbacks last year, the highest paid
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  Speaker 1: was fifty If you resigned Dack to that last year,
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  Speaker 1: you're saving another ten to fifteen million right there. Last
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  Speaker 1: year the wide receiver market was thirty million, because that
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  Speaker 1: was Davonte. He was the highest paid receiver. I believe
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  Speaker 1: at thirty million, thirty thirty one million, you could have
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  Speaker 1: paid CD easily twenty eight maybe twenty seven million. Because
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  Speaker 1: Amonrad didn't get paid, or none of these guys didn't
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  Speaker 1: get paid. It's just missed management. They did this with
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  Speaker 1: the Martin Cooper they did it. They did this with Zeke,
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  Speaker 1: They did this with Trevon Diggs, the cowboy. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: They they just wait to the very end to pay
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  Speaker 1: these guys, which is just poor management. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: like they're spending these assets or all this money to
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  Speaker 1: get this big free agent signing. They're not even doing that.
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  Speaker 1: So you're getting the worst of worst of both situations here.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as since you brought up the Niners here,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it yet. Brandon Nyuk he requested
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  Speaker 1: a trade, so before I let you speak on that. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of details behind it. So before
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  Speaker 1: the season started last year, they offered him four years,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five million a year. So they offered that, and
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  Speaker 1: and so Brandon Aiyuk he basically said, all right, well,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how this year goes, it's it's officially like
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  Speaker 1: a verbal agreement. That's pretty much what it was. Then
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  Speaker 1: after the year, after Devon Smith got paid, amonra got paid,
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  Speaker 1: he wanted more money at the thirty million dollar range,
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  Speaker 1: and the Niners they stood exactly by that. And now
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuki requested a trade for that exact reason. So
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  Speaker 1: what I want to ask you here is do you
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  Speaker 1: think he's staying with the Niners? And if not, where's
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  Speaker 1: the best situation for him.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that players request trades, but they really hold
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  Speaker 2: no power. They're gonna keep getting fined and fine until
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  Speaker 2: they come out and they're gonna have to settle on
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  Speaker 2: a deal for this for this little bit, and then
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  Speaker 2: they'll come in. They'll come back. But they I think
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  Speaker 2: the Ricky pearsall sign like draft pick kind of showed
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  Speaker 2: where the forty nine ers are at with this. They
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  Speaker 2: have a backup plan. I don't think Ricky Pearsall is
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  Speaker 2: the same type of player as bran A. Brand Ayu
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  Speaker 2: is a proven receiver in this NFL. But they've already
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  Speaker 2: showed like, hey, there's someone behind you in waiting. We're
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  Speaker 2: not too concerned about paying you this big money. If
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  Speaker 2: you want to be here, you'll be here. If you don't,
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  Speaker 2: you don't. And I think the Niners they're one of
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  Speaker 2: the best teams in the NFL consistently for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: I get they showed they come short in the end.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry all the time to the Chiefs, but it's okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know. And then but I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where he would go because I understand he wants
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  Speaker 2: to get paid, but other teams are gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: pay your contract. Also, there has to be an agreement
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  Speaker 2: with this team of a contract coming in already, And
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  Speaker 2: I just don't know which teams at this very moment
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  Speaker 2: have the cap space, have the assets to be able
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  Speaker 2: to make a move like this for Brandon Nyuk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely gonna be a tough situation because you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to trade multiple first round picks and give
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  Speaker 1: him that big contract. So maybe I know there's been
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  Speaker 1: talks about Washington, there's been talks about Oakland, and there's
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  Speaker 1: also been talks about Oakland as far as swapping Devonte
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  Speaker 1: and Brandon Nyuk and maybe some draft draft capital going
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  Speaker 1: to going to the Niners. I believe because he's a
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  Speaker 1: younger player. So I feel like that, yeah, that could
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  Speaker 1: work out, yeah for both sides. But okay, last thing here.
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  Speaker 1: It involves the best player in the world, Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: and it was at the Raiders, and that was a
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  Speaker 1: Kermit the frog that looked exactly like Patrick Mahomes. And
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes responded with, we'll get a handled when the
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  Speaker 1: time arises. So I know, Patrick Mahomes, he dominates the Raiders,
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  Speaker 1: But predictions for his first game against the Raiders, what
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  Speaker 1: are you thinking?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, let me just say this, They're just mad because
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  Speaker 2: we were taking ships in their restroom, drinking, popping champagne bottles,
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  Speaker 2: lifting up a Lombardi Trophy in their own stadium before
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  Speaker 2: they even play a playoff game in there. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: saying there about that, you know, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what their problem is. Well, I know
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  Speaker 2: what their problem is. They suck. They suck. Compared to
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  Speaker 2: my great glorious Kansas City Chiefs. The three time Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl champions underneath the Mahomes era, back to back Super
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  Speaker 2: World champions prooub be a three peat. Just like Mahomes
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  Speaker 2: said it, it'll get handled when it get handled, and
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  Speaker 2: you're you're pissing off the wrong guy. You're pissing off
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  Speaker 2: the wrong guy in the NFL, Like like you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: go after a Bo Knicks or Zach Wilson in the
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  Speaker 2: same division. You couldn't go after Justin Herbert. You couldn't
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  Speaker 2: go after I don't know, that's it. You like they
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  Speaker 2: were there, you know, But you go after the guy
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  Speaker 2: who's dominated his entire career in the division. But predictions,
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  Speaker 2: I say, a cool three twenty five touchdowns, Noh, he ain't.
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  Speaker 2: He ain't gonna do too much, you know, like he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna he's just he's just like gonna be like you
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  Speaker 2: know what, like you know, just another day in the office,
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  Speaker 2: just whooping the Las Vegas Raiders bum ass, Like you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's just gonna be another day in the office. They're
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  Speaker 2: they're riding that Christmas Day win like they won the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. To this day, you know, we're not worried
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  Speaker 2: about it. We won the Super Bowl in their in
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  Speaker 2: their stadium before they even played a playoff game in there.
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  Speaker 1: Damn that that is pretty damn sad now that you
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  Speaker 1: think about it now. But all right, let's go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and move on. So that was pretty much all of
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  Speaker 1: the news there. So we're gonna go over or did
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk NFC or AFC division? First?
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  Speaker 2: At the AFC, we'll do the NFC. I don't I
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  Speaker 2: got beef with the AFC.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, We'll start off with the NFC North. So something
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  Speaker 1: that we're gonna do over these next couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: before football season, we're gonna talk about we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about eight teams, so two divisions, so the NFC North
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  Speaker 1: and AFC North in this example leading up to the
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  Speaker 1: football season, and we're gonna just talk about the team,
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  Speaker 1: give a quick MVP for them, a breakout player, just
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  Speaker 1: over each team to give depth a bottom. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: first we'll start with one of your favorite teams in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC, the Detroit Lions here. So how are you
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  Speaker 1: feeling about him this year? I know in our last
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  Speaker 1: Fantasy Football pod you're talking highly about Amon ross Saint Brown,
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  Speaker 1: even Jamiir Gibbs. So how are you feeling overall about
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  Speaker 1: this team? Do you think they could do better than
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  Speaker 1: they did last year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think they'll lose to the Chiefs and the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. No, I think the Lions barring injury. You know,
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  Speaker 2: of course, with every team, we don't like to see
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  Speaker 2: anyone get injured. But yeah, I think they're well suited
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  Speaker 2: to make another run like they did last year. And
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  Speaker 2: they they they blew it against the forty nine ers
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  Speaker 2: like they were they had to win. They it's just
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  Speaker 2: a matter of playing smarter football and not being as
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  Speaker 2: aggressive as they are, and I just think they could
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  Speaker 2: run it back. They come back with the strong duo
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  Speaker 2: of David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. I understand people expect
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  Speaker 2: Juamior Gibbs maybe turn into a three down back. He's
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  Speaker 2: never going to be that in the NFL. He's just
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  Speaker 2: not that type of build of player. But he's had explosive,
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  Speaker 2: is dynamic player that you need on your team, and
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  Speaker 2: he's he's the best player out of the two obviously,
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  Speaker 2: But the it's like that ab punch, you know, David
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  Speaker 2: Montgomery's gonna give you that dirty work. He's gonna give
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  Speaker 2: you through the middle goal line work touchdowns, and then
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  Speaker 2: Jamior gives him to comeback with with the speed, with
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  Speaker 2: the outside handoffs, with the receiving all that. And that's
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  Speaker 2: scary for most teams because you have to account for
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  Speaker 2: two different situations. When you think you got a player
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  Speaker 2: out the field, another one is coming in to hit
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  Speaker 2: you in the math. And then if we got we
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  Speaker 2: already know there's enough praise on this podcast about amaras
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  Speaker 2: Sam Brown, But I do think I understand I've been
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  Speaker 2: hard on Jamison Williams. But if he shows up this year,
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  Speaker 2: that's a different type of This is a different type
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be, yeah, because there was he showed signs
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  Speaker 2: last year of maybe of what he can do with
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  Speaker 2: the little deep balls and rounds all that. But if
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  Speaker 2: he has a consistent play this is his first season
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL where he doesn't miss games due to
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  Speaker 2: his own faults and to injury, and if he can
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  Speaker 2: develop well, he's he's a former first round, twelfth overall pick,
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  Speaker 2: and if he develops into what he's supposed to be,
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  Speaker 2: this team's scary. And I understand people are kind of
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  Speaker 2: sleeping on the the signing of Donovan People's Jones just
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  Speaker 2: because he's not a household name, but Done Peoples Jones
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  Speaker 2: is a service world receiver in this NFL. I'd have
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  Speaker 2: him over a Josh Reynolds, which is which was very
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  Speaker 2: good for the Detroit Lions for many years. And so
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  Speaker 2: having Donovan Peoples Jones, who I think is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better, it's gonna go a long way for this team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think even some of the free agency
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  Speaker 1: sign is that they did here other than Donovan's People
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  Speaker 1: People's Jones. They brought in Carlton Davis, somebody to shure
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  Speaker 1: up the back end there. You brought back Graham Glass.
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  Speaker 1: Now you brought in Kevin Zeidler. You bulked up that
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  Speaker 1: offensive line where it was the strength here. So again,
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  Speaker 1: barring any injury, I don't see Jared Golf taking a
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  Speaker 1: dip here because you still return Ben Johnson. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: go become a head coach, so you still have one
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  Speaker 1: of the best coordinators in the league. You also got
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  Speaker 1: yeah there, yeah, yeah, so you got another cornerback there.
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  Speaker 1: So everything is pointing in the right direction for the
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  Speaker 1: Lions here. It is it's just barring any injury there.
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  Speaker 1: They have the right amount of youth and then playoff experience.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think as of right now, just
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  Speaker 1: looking at it before, I think they're the biggest threat
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  Speaker 1: to the Chiefs as far as to win the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: I would say that very comfortably because they could play
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  Speaker 1: any style. They could play the physical, could play the
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  Speaker 1: low scoring game. Yeah, the intensity if if they score
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  Speaker 1: thirty points, they could score forty. They're just that damn good.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as you kind of mention it breakout
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  Speaker 1: player here, I'm gonna agree with you. I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 1: Jamison Williams because again, the whole gambling suspension, then he
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  Speaker 1: got hurt, and then late in the year and then playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: he looked like he was at times one of the
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  Speaker 1: or the best receiver on the field. At times he
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: looked that damn good. And as far as from my
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: m VP for this team, I know it's gonna just
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: be the easy answer, but give me the offensive line here.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna just be the bread
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and butter for him and just gonna be the reason
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: why they win the trenches.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Man, m hm No, But I'm I'm gonna pick a
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: different breakout I expect Jameis Williams, I want him to
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: do some certain things. But I think Brian Branch, if
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: he can come into a very like he was great
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: last year already as a rookie, there is nothing he
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: could have done better as a rookie. This year, he's
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: gonna do more. He was guarding, he was guarding tight ends,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: straight up, good receiver, straight up blitzeing like he was
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: doing it all for this team. And if he could
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: take that next step into a territory and solidify himself
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: within the top safeties in this league. This this this
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: defense is gonna look a lot better than it did
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: last year because they were struggling against the Against the past,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: they were great against the run, but the passes where
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: they struggled. And then bringing a Terry on Arnold who
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: takes a lot of pressure off, and I think I
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: think Jack Campbell also getting another year as the starter
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: starting will linebacker is gonna it's gonna be great for
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: this team. Because they were young, they learned, they got
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: thrown into the fire right away. That's just that's just
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: breeding experience on this team and it's I agree with you.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I think they're the biggest threat to the Chiefs of
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: stopping the three peat, and honestly, they could match the
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Chiefs in any way scoring because I think I hate
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to talk about the Chiefs, but this is gonna be
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: a different type of Chiefs where I think there's gonna
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: be a lot more scoring than there was the last
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: two seasons just due to the setup of the team.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: And if there's a team that can compete with the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: high powered offense and score at will, it's the Detroit
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Lions and we saw it last year. I don't I
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: can't pick out certain games. I think who exactly who
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: they're playing, but there was times where they were scoring
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: in two plays, in three plays, back to back to
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: back to back, and it was insane to watch.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just have that ability where if they need
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: to go on a twelve play seventy five yard drive
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: for eight minutes, they could do that. Or if they
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: need to score within within three three plays, like for example,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the Chargers game where the score I believe it was
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: like forty five to forty to that place.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: That's what I yep, yeah, yeah, that was the game.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Or they play against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers where it's
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a nineteen to three ball game where it could just
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: get just real physical. Yeah, they just pose the biggest threat.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I think the only thing that can hold them back.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It's also their strength at the same time is Dan
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Campbell and Jared Goff. That's their strength and their weakness,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Because the riskiness and then just
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the aggressive play style more coming from Dan Campbell, it
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: could put you in great situations. But we saw it
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: against the Niners, going for it a couple of times
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: in your own territory instead of kicking field goals that
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: ends up costing you games. So I feel like he'll
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be a little bit better at that because now he
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: has three playoff games underneath his belt. But I feel
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: like that's always something to look out for, especial with him.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's because go ahead, Oh my bad, It's
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: because Dan Campbell. He's so aggressive as a coach, like
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: love the guy, like right versus the Cowboys, we saw
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: it went for went for two instead of kicking the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: field goal. I mean, I think he did it because
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: they had no implications on their playoffs, their playoffs standings
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, but I mean it
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: kind of did. They did get it. I'm not gonna
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: lie y'all, y'all, they got robbed. But but yes they do.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: You know they did.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: What the hell you're talking about?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know what I'm talking about.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: But the all I'm saying is before you get on
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: your rant, all I'm saying is that they had a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: chance to kick the extra point, but they still went
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: for two from the seven yard line. They didn't know.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: But but the aggressiveness they did. But the aggressiveness is
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: what we love about the Lions. But the aggressiveness also
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: holds back the Lions at point. We saw that versus
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: before you nine in the conference championship. It should have
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: been Lions versus Chiefs. It were really being honest, And
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that game turns out the way
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: it does because because we're we still weren't that high
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: powered offense like you know, so the Lion the Lions
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: would have been harder. I get our defenses. Our defense
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: did play this offense and play very well against them
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: in the regular season, so I don't know what our
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: defense was balling. Yeah, so I think I might have
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: ended up the same. Now I think take I take
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: it back. But uh, but then with Jared Goff, like
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: he's like that maestro, but you're not gonna get You're
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: not gonna get that those big plays. You're gonna get
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the he's gonna be very conservative with the football and
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be do his job. And that's also the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: it's like the opposite end of the spectrums, like the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: yin and the yang. You know. Yeah, the aggressiveness versus
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: the aggressiveness comes back to by you, but also with
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: Jared Goff, the non aggressiveness comes back to by you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: sometimes and those are the weaknesses.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yep. Perfect, perfect way to cap that off. So next
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: team in the division that we're gonna talk about is
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings here, which I mean the biggest yea,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the biggest splash was Kirk Cousins leaving going to that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: line of Falcons and JJ McCarthy coming in with that
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: tenth overall pick and Justin Jefferson signing that massive contract.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So Hawkinson still hurt.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hawkinson, he's still hurt since he got late in
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the year or got a torn acl late in the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: year week fifteen, I believe. So how are you feeling
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: about the Vikings this year? How well do you think
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: they're gonna do.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: This? Is where they finished last place in the division.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I think this is the year. It's not gonna be
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: the year for them. Talent Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: J Hawkinson always, but this roster just isn't the same
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: as as it was two seasons to go, as it
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: was last season. Because even though last season they started
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the season off bad, they were cooking when Kirk Cousins
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: started cooking and then he gets hurt ultimately obviously, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: they were still fighting for playoff spots towards at the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: end of the season with Justin Jefferson coming back. But
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, like JJ McCarthy, I'm not a believer.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I'll put that out. Yeah, that's a known fact. I'm
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: not a believer in J. J. Mccartt. We're not believers
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: in JJ McCarthy. And then Sam Donald. Sam Donald has
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: always been praised as like, oh, he's a guy that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: just hasn't gotten a chance. He's a there's some potential
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: there that we just don't know about. When are we
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: going to see it? You know? And I, yeah, this
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: is this time is now You're you're getting You're getting
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: handed the team at least for the first six games,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: maybe five games, and what can you do with it?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And I just don't see it happening, especially in this division.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: This division is so stacked. The way the tables have
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: turned in this division, it's it's it's completely flipped, a
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: complete one eight. And I don't know. The defense isn't
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: isn't that great? I mean, they signed Byron, It's just
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it doesn't scream. This is the last place division team.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I don't really have much to say on them.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It's just yeah, okay, so I don't know. Yeah, I'll
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: put it like this. If they were in any other division,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they would have a chance to fight for a playoff spot.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: But since they're in this stack division right here, as
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: far as all of these teams right here, I feel
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like NFC North or not NFC North, NFC South,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like they would have a down good chance.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: That would be like the Atlanta Falcons, Bucks, Saints and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: then Panthers.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: That that would maybe that I think Falcons a Bucks,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: clearly clear both of the clearly the vikings.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Right now, Okay, okay, well, I know you talked about
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy a little bit. I feel like I'm starting
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: to change. I'm not fully sold. But I'm starting to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: change my mind a little bit. As far as JJ McCarthy.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm dying. I'm dying on this hill.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I'll die. I'm again. I'm not. I'm not dying on
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a hill. I'm just on top of the hill. I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: just I'm just right there in the middle. I'm just
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just waiting. I'm starting to believe a little bit
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: more in JJ McCarthy. I think underneath Kevin O'Connell, you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: have Justin Jefferson, you have Jordan Addison. Well we don't
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: know about him due to all the off off field issues,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: but we're not sure about about that yet. But but
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's put in the right place, the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: right system. Or Kevin O'Connell. You've seen with Nick Mullins,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Jaron Hall, Joshua Dobbs, where he's made these quarterbacks look
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: good for a long period of time throughout the regular season.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And I feel like if he sits behind Sam Donald
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: maybe five six games and then he starts, he could
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: really get into groove and not necessarily be I'll put
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: it like this, he could be a brock Purty mold.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Be kind of in the top
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: ten range, but not somebody who's like that's why I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: want to build my franchise around. That's what I feel
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: like i'd feel about him.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: But a quarterback, it's hard to.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Find quarterbacks though. But I'll say this. The defense, it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: may not be good, but Brian Flores hasn't play tough.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: At coaches.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna take a couple of years to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: build back that defense. So as far as my MVP,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is easy. Justin Jefferson here, it's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a simple no am I, no questions, and my breakout player.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: This where I'm kind of going on a limb JJ McCarthy.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be my breakout player for the Vikings. I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: feel like he's gonna have a good He may not
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: have a good beginning from that week six to maybe
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: like Week thirteen something like that, but down the strets
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: those last five to six games, I feel like he'll
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: have a good ending. So I don't know how you
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: feeling about that.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know who my breakout would be. I think
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Jordan Addison can take another step. I think yeah. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: think he's shown a lot of potential. Last year. It
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: was a lot of boom, big boom plays. He was
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: catching a lot of deep balls touchdowns. That was his
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: rookie year, and it was a successful rookie year for
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Jordan Addison. I just think if he can get that
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: more consistency of just of just like being a do
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: it all receiver, I think you can make that next step.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I'll take him as my breakout player.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Even though he's already broken out a little bit. But
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think they Yeah, I think they
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: have the potential being the best duo in the NFL.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: No, that belongs to Cdium and Brandon Cooks. Anyways, all right,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, let's talk about this
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: second to last team here, which we kind of talked
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: about already, that Green Bay Packers here. Obviously resigned Jordan Love,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: then they got Josh Jacobs in the offseason, made it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to the Division Round, almost beat the Niners. Last year,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: got Edrin Cooper in the draft. So I know, I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: know we talked about a little bit before, But are
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the Packers taking that next step? Are they going to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: be one of those contenders in the NFC next year?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and yes it's their time. I think I
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: think this is the I think the Lions versus Green
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Bay Packers games are gonna be must watch TV this year.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not missing up Lions and Packers game this year.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: And there's two, we get two of them. So I
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: think Jordan Love is gonna take another step the big
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: contract you have to if Jayden Reid, Jayden Reid gotta
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: be a dog. Jayden Reid is gonna step up. We're
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: gonna see it this year. He had a good year
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: last year, but I think he has a lot more
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: potential than we've seen. Romeo Dobbs has been he's a
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: consistent receiver. He's never he's never gonna be a star,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: but he's gonna be that guy that you need on
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: your team, like a good number two, good number three.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: But the biggest thing of this all on this offense,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: how healthy can Christian Watson stay?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: If Christian Watson Stay is healthy, it's scarier because yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: he's he's one of the his rookie season, we saw
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: how much of a weapon he can be used as
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: just injuries catch up to him they start coming into
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: the NFL, and then last year man It riddled his
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: sophomore season harshly. Yeah, and if he can stay healthy,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be pretty scary with with this tandem. Jayen
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Reid wrote this triple. This triple, it's Jayden Reied, Romeo Dobbs,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: and Christian Watson, and then you get the addition of
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs. I understand Josh Jacobs and what he was
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: two seasons ago, but he'll never get back to that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: He's not getting three ninety plus, he's not getting that
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: many touches, no way again. But but he's definitely an
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: upgrade compared to an Aaron Jones. I get Aaron Jones
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: dog great running back, but I think there's a slight
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: upgrade you get in a consistency of runner that Josh
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Jacobs is.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So with this Packers team right here, I feel
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like it's all gonna depend on Jordan Love here, which
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: we talked about. He needs to take that next step
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: with that contract extension, being the highest paid quarterback in
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the league as of right now this recording. So I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: think the defense is gonna be fine, the weapons around him,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Oh if Jordan's the team's gonna be nice.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: If Jordan Love could play like he did those last
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: eight games, even going into the playoffs, then this will
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: be the This will be the team where we're looking
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: at the next four or five years where it's like, Okay,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: this team is gonna be potentially the biggest the biggest
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: threat long term to the Chiefs, the Ravens, Bengals, whoever.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: So because Jordan Love has that upside to be the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: best quarterback in the NFL. He really does have that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: upside there. He's not really really missing anything. He can
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: make any throw he could. He's even mobile, he could
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: scramble out of the pocket. He's just that damn good.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: And I think.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Just with this division being so competitive as far as
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Lions Packers, I know this early prediction. I think this
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: is an easy split both teams. They went at home here,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I just feel like that's gonna just agree. Yeah. I
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: just feel like this is gonna just be a dogfight
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of it of a division holder.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Like I'm getting chills just thinking about it. Yeah, Like
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: this these are this is the games where they're like,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get a high scoring matchup and it's yeah,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and it's seventeen to fourteen.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I end up being like three to six
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, No, But dude, like you're saying, I'm excited
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: to watch the Packers.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm excited, And like you were mentioning with
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Christian Watson, So I put him as my breakout player
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: because even when Jay Yeah, even when Jayden Reid he
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: was there, even when bow Melton, Romeo Dobbs were there.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: When when Christian Watson got back, you could tell he'll
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: still the number one receiver. He'll still get in the targets,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: he'll still get in all the attention he was and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like and I feel like with the healthy offseason,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like he'll be back and he'll be this
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: game changer, this dynamic player that'll end up being one
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of the best receivers in fantasy football. And like you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: talked about it, usually by the third year, the wide receivers,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the running backs, the quarterbacks that usually get paid. This
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: is the third year of his contracts, so it's kind
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: of a contract year for him, if that makes sense,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: because do you accept the fifth year option do you not?
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So it's a big gear for Christian Watson and I'm
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: really betting on him, and the MVP is pretty simple here.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is just Jordan Love here it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: pretty simple. I don't know how you feel. Maybe the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: same for MVP, but what about breakout.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Breakout I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with Luke
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: musk Graves for my breakout player. I think against I
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: think I think he was part of that little group,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: that tight end group that had a lot of potential.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I mean they did they lived up to it. Sam Laporta,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Michael Maher, Luke musk Graves, Dalton Kincaid. I think they did.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: They all had good rookie seasons. I mean Sam Laporta obviously, yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: But I think Luke musk Graves got got banged up
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and I do think he was building
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: a little connection with Jordan Love during the season. He
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: was getting some targets. I think he can break out
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: into a like a nine hundred eight touchdown type of season,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and that's good for a tight end in the NFL.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I I see that potential on him, So I'm gonna
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: call him out as my breakout MVP. I think Jordan
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: loves the easy answer, so I'm kind of just gonna
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: put that to the side, you know. So I'm gonna
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: go with with Kenny Clark. I think Kenny Clark or
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: or with Shawn Gary like, they have potential to be
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: some of the top defenders in the NFL, and I
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: do think they're still I think I think they can
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: they can live up to that, and I'm one of them.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Is gonna be my MVP?
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I like that. I like that. But all right,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: last team in the division here we have the Chicago Bears.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Who has interesting team?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the most interesting team and I would say the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: most hype as far as from one of the worst
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: teams in the NFL to potentially being one of the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: better teams in the NFL. Obviously, Caleb Williams in the draft,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: got Romeo Dunze, they had the stack draft class, they
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: got Keenan Allen, then they signed Jerald Everett, DeAndre Swift,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: then re signed Montes Suet all these all these big additions.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: But how do you think it's gonna come together? What
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: is this gonna pan out for for the Chicago Bears.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: It's either gonna be really good or it's gonna be
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: really bad. But honestly, I'm excited to see the Bears
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: kind of have an opportunity. It's been a long time.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know the last time Jay Cutler was on
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the Bears when they went to the playoffs. Maybe the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: last time, that's what I remember. Oh oh yeah, Jay Color,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Brandon Marshall, Alshon, Jeffrey Matt Forte. You know that's a
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: good team. Mark Tayla's bennet, they were they were fired now, Yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: but no, you bring in Keenan Allen, big acquisition, veteran,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: always open route runner onto unless he's playing against Trim McDuffie,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: you know, and Lugarious need R I p here on
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: another team now. But you know, I think it's gonna
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: be I think it's gonna be great, uh for having
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: that type of veteran in your locker room, for Kayler Williams,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: that type of veteran receiver who just knows where to be,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: especially a DJ Moore. This receiving group is easily a
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: top group in the entire NFL. Do get more Keen Allen,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Romo Dunze. It don't get better than that, especially Romo
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Dudeney having potential to be a top receiver in this
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: league getting drafted where he was even argued most of
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the season higher than the Leak neighbors. So it's there's
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: no better. I heard this argument, there's no quarterback who's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: ever come into the NFL with a better situation. I know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I know coaching has a lot to do with it,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: but roster wise, what you're what's been put around you,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: there hasn't been a better quarterback given given a better situation.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you disagree or agree. Yeah, because
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you come in DJ moorees wide receiver one on another team,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: on his team, Keenan Allen wide receiver one his whole career,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Romo Dunda potential wide receiver one, Cole Komett, and Gerald
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Ever and Mercedes Lewis. I don't know what more tight
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: ends you want, but like there, that's probably easily the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: top three, top four tight end group in the NFL
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: as a whole. And then the offensive line is getting
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: rebuilt slowly, so they're doing everything they can for Killer
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Williams to succeed, and shoot, they better. They traded away
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Justin Fields and bank all on Kayleb Williams, and he
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: he has a lot of potential to live up to,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: especially being compared to Mahomes being this next great generational player.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I guess they say that to most players, but Kayler
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Williams is he shows a lot of flashes of what
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the top player is now and then so this offense,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: they have a lot to live up to, especially being
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: in this division. You're gonna have to keep up. You're
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: gonna have to keep up with the Packers and the
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Lions offensively and as far as defense, I do think
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: with Montes Swett coming in last year, we saw a
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: kind of a bigger jump from this defensive line and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: he kind of proved himself as a number one being.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: You know, it's kind of hard in Washington when they
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: did have good rushers, you know, Jonathan Allen, Deron Payne
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: and then Chase Young. When you know Chase Young was
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: a good player, not no more but yeah that's messed up,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: but he was. And then Jakawan Brisker, Jalen Johnson, Kevin Byern.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: You know, they they're setting him, They're setting this team
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: up good as a whole. It's just can it come together.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, they have a team that's ready to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: win right now. It's just a big question mark because
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is a rookie.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and coaching coaching, We're gonna come down to coaching.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Well, well, we'll see exactly with Matt Eberflus, because this
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: is a this is a big year for Yeah, this
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: is a big year for him right here. And I
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: think I've said it from the very get go, Josh,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I've been early to this party. I think
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is going to be one of the best
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: players in the NFL. Off rip.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I think this.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I've never been surefire about a certain guy, and I
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: think this guy is just gonna be that damn good.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: And I said it. I don't know when we recorded this,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: maybe about ten episodes ago. I said, the Bears are
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. And I'm standing by that. The
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Bears They're gonna make the They're they're gonna make the playoffs.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And I think breakout player, it's gonna be. It's gonna be.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, Romeo Dunes, He's gonna be the breakout player.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: And I feel like at the end of the year,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like he'll be the number one receiver. I
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: just feel like it doesn't matter how good of receivers
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you have had a round him so much. Oh yeah,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you have two of the best pure route runners in
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and He's already one of the best route
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: runners coming in the league as a rookie. I just
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: think that sometimes talent and just sticks out, and sometimes
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: if you're just better, you're just gonna be better. I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: think that he's clearly gonna just be the number one
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: receiver at the end of the year. So he's my
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: breakout player, and then my MVP is gonna be Caleb Williams.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can I think my I think my MVP
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: is gonna be Jalen Johnson. I think he's gonna have
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: another season, another great season coming off of last year,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you know, all pro easily one of his best best
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: seasons of his career, and then, yeah, breakout. I think
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Darnell. Yeah, I'll go with Darnell, right.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I like I liked him coming out. I was kind
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: of hoping the Chiefs maybe if they were gonna get
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: an offensive lineman, he would be one of the options.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And I do think having a right tackle, having just
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: a good offensive line, I can see him breaking out
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: into a big way, especially this early. If it's this
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: early in his career and he's able to do it,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be It's gonna be more important to me,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I think than maybe Remodons breaking out because protection. If
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you have protection, you're gonna get the ball to your
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: receivers no matter what.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's always the biggest question mark for the
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Bears as far as can the Bears they hold up
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: as far as offensive line wise, these passed three or
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: four years he had. Yeah, he's had no time to
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: throw the ball at all. So I know Caleb Williams,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: he is mobile, but at the end of the day,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you still need to be able to to sit in
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the pocket and let your receivers get open. But actually,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: there there's some comments in the chat right here that
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: were barely reading, so it says one thing I want
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to ask, Josh, how do you feel about Stefon Diggs
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: going to the Texans And how do you think he's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: gonna do this season?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: As my boy Noah, my boy Noah is in here.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I see him arguing with Stonewall. Yeah, argue with Stonewall more.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: But how do I feel about Stefon Diggs. I think
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: it's a great move for this team. Much like the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears and the Houston Texans skipped a rebuild, they
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: skipped a rebuild big time. They were like, you know what,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: we're going all in, Danielle Hunter, Stefon Diggs, Nico Collins
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: taking a step up, Tank dell outliving expectations. I think
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: entirely his injury wasn't even a receiving play. It was
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: a play he shouldn't have been in, which is a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: blocking at the two yard line as a receiver. He's
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: freaking the smallest receiver probably in the NFL, and they
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: had him blocking at the goal line. But I think
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs being there options galore for CJ. Stroud. I
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: think it's it's gonna help these players grow. On the
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: other side with Nico Collins and tanged out, but Stefan Diggs,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think Stefan Dicks is the same player as
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: he was maybe two seasons ago. He's getting older, but
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: he's still top ten NFL receiver, So getting adding that
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: to this roster already, it's gonna be scary hours they're
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: they're probably the scariest team in my opinion in the
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: AFC versus the Chiefs right now.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Ooh ooh, okay ooh.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, or New York if a Rod can
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: stay healthy.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Oot that that would be nice. I've as of right now,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'll take CJ. Straut over Aaron Rodgers.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: That's just my oh for sure right now?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know. But I'll just say this real quick.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna do as far as the South Division soon,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I can tell you win exactly, So just tune in.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: But I think, personally me, I'm gonna go a hot
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: take here. I don't think the Texans are gonna they're
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: gonna do as well as people expect. That's that's all
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I'm just giving a snee peak, That's
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say. I'm gonna save it for whenever
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: we do the South. But okay, as far as official
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: prediction for the divisions, I know we're gonna have predictions
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: in about three four weeks. But who's finishing first in
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: the NFC North and who's finishing last and so on
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: through there? So what's the social predictions?
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: First last, I'm gonna go last place, Minnesota Vikings. It's
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: just not their year. It's just not the season to
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: be in this division. It's not And especially trying to
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: start a new quarterback figuring out when he's gonna come
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: in when just all the situation they're in right now
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: is just if you had Kirk Oh, I'd be thinking
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: completely different. I'd be thinking a completely different situation because
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: he's easily would be the top, the second, or the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: best quarterback in this division as yeah, as of today,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: as of today, because I think it would be Debabel
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Hilmer Jordan Love who's the best quarterback in the division.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: But but they don't have that, and that's why, and
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: they're their defense is suspect. It's to be seen. They
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: have the weapons. Obviously t J. Hawkinson is hurt. That's
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: gonna be a big top three tight end in the NFL. Yeah,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: So it's just that that's a big missing piece, that's
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: last third third. I'm gonna go Chicago. I understand that
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: you you think they're gonna be top, but I I'm
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: gonna give it a little bit. I want to I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: want to have to see it before I believe it,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: only because we've seen, we've heard hype. We've heard hype before.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I want to see it happen because players haven't limited
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: expectations more times than they haven't, so more times than
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: they have, I want to see it. We'll see how
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: this roster pans out, they could completely win, you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: but yeah, they have the talent to do it. But
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: number two, these guys have done it, and I do
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: think they're they're they're just only getting better. Number two,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Green Bay Packers, who will make the playoffs,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: by the way, in the wild in one of the
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: wild card spots. You know, I think Jordan Love takes
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that step up, Jaden Reed, Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs. They're
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: gonna turn into a good, a good, a good group
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: of receivers for him. The defense is still I think
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be really good. They Xavier mckinch, McKinney. Then
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: they got Shaun Gary, Kenny Clark, kway Walker, Isaiah McDuffie.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I think this team is gonna be pretty good. And
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: then the Detroit Lions. You already know my number one team,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: number one team in the in the NFC. If we're
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: really talking about something, I think that's that's how it's
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: gonna be.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: So even though I have different predictions for the team,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be the same standings. I
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: do have the Detroit Lions one, but I have the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Packers two and Bears three, but I have them both
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: making the playoffs. Since there's three wild card teams here,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's gonna be three teams coming out
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: of the NFC North here. So I just think it's again,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I I think really highly of this division right here,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I do think that the Vikings are gonna
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: be last year. But did you want to say anything
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: else about this division before we get onto the AFC side?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Now we covered all bases.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, covered every single thing, but all right, let's start
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Ravens here. So the Baltimore Ravens made
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it to the AFC Championship game, lost to the Chiefs
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: kind of heartbreaking fashion. So they made some moves this offseason.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Resigned Justin Madabek, their star defensive tackle four year contract,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: got Derrick Henry, and then Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham he's gone.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Then resigned Kyle van Noy. So there's just little moves
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: that have been made, but they're very big moves at
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the same time. So do you think that the Ravens
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: they're going to repeat what they did last year or
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: possibly make a Super Bowl run Finally this year?
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: I think they can repeat what they did last year.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: But if you ask me that Derrick Henry move moves
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: at the needle, I don't think it does. The Baltimore
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Ravens weren't struggling running the football like that wasn't their problem.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, their problem is receivers. I understand they
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: went through Gus Edwards, Keaton Mitchell, JK. Dobbins, all these guys,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: but none. Every time these guys played, they had big games.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: You know, Gus Edwards had three touchdown games. Keith and
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Mitchell went crazy when he was in. JK Dobbins injuries
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: hold him back. You know, there's no question about talent,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: no question about how good of a running back he is,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: because he's shown that he is a good running back.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: It's just injuries holds all these guys back. So it's
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: never been a problem running the football. I understand Derek
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Henry may add a fear factor. He may add like,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: oh dang, we have to account for this guy, but
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna really be. It's not moving
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: the needle too much.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I do think lose not not addressing the wide receiver
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: position hurts a little bit because I think they not
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: saying they got worse because OLDA Beckham barely played. But
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: it's just it's a stalemate right now. It's it's stille.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: There's there's no there's no there's no salt on these eggs.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: It's just bland. You know, it's just say Flowers. I
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: think he could be a good receiver, but his but
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: his average depth of target wasn't wasn't there. We didn't
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: see a lot of deep shots to him. We saw
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: it later on towards the year when that when that
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: when that connection started building. But I need to see
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: another year of him taking that next step, especially now
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: he's the number one, clear number one option, clear number
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: one option for this team. And can he do it?
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Mark Andrews, you know Mark and just Mark Andrews. Isaiah
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: likely proven he can be a good player in this league. Defense,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: we don't even talk about it. They're gonna be. It's
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: gonna be another year top five, top three defense in
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: the entire NFL. There's there's no question about it. Yeah,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: this Steve Patrick Queen leaving is to be seen. Patrick
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Quinn is a big piece of this team.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely is a big loss, but you luckily
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: you still do have rokon Smith there who is not.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: OK.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt, you got Eddie Jackson barely a couple days
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: ago go, which I forgot to mention, So they definitely
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: have Yeah, they definitely have studs all around. But I'm
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: gonna just add on to what you said. Just yes,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, it is a great move, but at the
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: end of the day, you're gonna need to pass the ball,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: and that was the struggling part in the AFC Championship
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: game for the Baltimore Ravens. So at the end of
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the day, some teams are just gonna be able to
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: stop the run. You can slow down Derrick Henry. We've
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: seen that in Tennessee plenty of times and even in
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: playoff games. So I just think it's gonna depend on
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson throwing to Za Flowers and Mark Andrews and
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: can that connection be there. Mark Andrews, he's going to
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: be back healthy, but even at that he was healthy
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: majority of the year and it still wasn't as great
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: as we thought it was gonna be before the year,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: getting new offensive coordinator and Todd Monkin. So I just
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: think it's all gonna depend on again, Lamar improving as
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: a passer. If he keeps doing that year after year
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: after year, I think if things fall right, if the
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: chips fall the right way, they could crack through and
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: make a Super Bowl run. But I'll say this, that
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: play action game between Lamar act or Lamar Jackson Derrick Henry,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be nasty there because you have two of
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the best best players who can't be tackled. One of
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: them just a wrecking ball, other one you can't touch.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: So that's definitely gonna be nice there. And I think
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers he's gonna have that breakout year. I really
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: do think so. I think since he is that number
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, since we don't know exactly how healthy he
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: is gonna be. I know he came back for the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, but still it was basically a broken ankle.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: That's what it pretty much was. So we don't know
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: if he's gonna be one hundred percent come week one,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: week two, maybe later on the year in the year
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: he will be. But I think Zay Flowers he's gonna
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: be the breakout guy. Gets over a thousand yards, maybe
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: eleven twelve hund yards, and then I could see five
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: six touchdowns there. But the MVP, the MVP for this team,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be Rokwan Smith. That's gonna be my MVP
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: because he's he's the leader of the defense, ahead of
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: the snake. He's just that damn good and at the
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: end of the day, to win in the AFC North,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: it depends on defense, so he's my MVP.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Well, to win in the AFC in general, it depends
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: on defense. So MVP is definitely Rokwan Smith. The best
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: player on the best I'm not saying on the team.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is there, but easily the second best player
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: at this point in his career with Derrick Henry not
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: being what he once was. But Rokwan easily MVP for
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: me and Breakout, I agree, it's Dave Flowers. Jay Flowers
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: needs to take that next step. If he doesn't, don't
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: even worry about this team. Don't even worry about the
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens because they can't pass the football. If if
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Dave Flowers doesn't make that jump, it's just gonna be
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: another season where they make the playoffs and that's it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: That's that's where that's where it ends for them. If
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Jay Flowers can make that next step where he's a dog.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I'm all for it. Yeah.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: So all right, next team we're gonna go to right
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: here is the Cincinnati Bengals here, which.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: The frongles, the frongles.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: They they pretty much cut ties with a lot of
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: people here. I think over twelve people. Chiddo Beayawoozie, Joe Batchi,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Marcus Bailey, Tata Boy Tanner Hudson, Trent Irwin, DJ Reeder,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Max I'm not gonna butcher his last name, s IRV Smith,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Josh Tuffo, Mitchell Wilcox, Jonah Williams, Joe Mixon, Nick Scott.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: So more than twelve players actually, So they cleaned house
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of their players. So and then they
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: got a couple of offseason moves. They got Mike Gaseki,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: they got Zach Boss, Gino Stone, but really nothing other
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: than that. So with them pretty much cleaning house because
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: they have to pay players, what do you think the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Bengals are gonna do this year? I know you have
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: their colors. I know you repping their I know you're
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: repping their colors right now.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Wow, this is Falcons up, baby Falcons up, Hey Falcons.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Nobody, Nobody can see the U T TV. Nobody can
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: see it, so Falcons up. But all right, how are
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you feeling about it?
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: The worst I've ever felt about the Bengals because I
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna be a good football team. I
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: understand they're gonna be a good football team, but missing
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the playoffs very likely. I will put that out there.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: This is a this is a conference where you can't
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: mess around. They're messing around because this defense not scary.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Trade Henderson is Stem Hubbard, consistent players, but I don't
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: think they've addressed their their their defensive backs at all.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I get Cam Taylor britt great player, but outside of
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: that nothing. I don't really fear Mike Hilton. He's a
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: good player, but not a great player. They have the
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: quarterback with more nicknames than playoff wins, so you know,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you know he's he's the king of nicknames. But I
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: know I'm kidding. I love Joe Burrow. He's a good player.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: He hey, that haircut made him look like Cody Rhoades.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: He's got to finish the story, man, you gotta finish
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: the story.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I finished. I guess you know, still be not
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: close to the other guy, but you know Jamar Chase ta.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: We don't even know Chie Higgins is gonna play. He's
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: sitting out right now. He's not He's not even to
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: be seen. Tyler Boyd's gone. You have a rookie Jermaine Burton.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: A lot of question marks on this team. I think
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: there's more question marks than answers.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: M okay, okay. So I think, yes, it definitely is
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: a tricky, tricky evaluation for the Bengals. But at the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: end of the day, you have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like as long as you you have that
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: tandem there, then if healthy, they're easily one of the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: most unstoppable guys. But one thing I forgot to mention
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: to you, Josh, is so how we had that surgery
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: on his thumb. So no other NFL, NFL player or
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: quarterback has dealt with that injury before. That's more of
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: a baseball injury. And what that does, that specific injury
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that gives a flick in the wrists, so that dart
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: where you're able to throw the spiral, you're able to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: throw the deep ball. So we're this is the first
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: time we're gonna see if Joe Burrow could actually throw
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: the football still, and even at that, he didn't have
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: the most arm strength in the world either. And now
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: you're taking away the thumb, which is the most important.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe he could be perfectly fine, but there's still that
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: concern because nobody's ever came back from that injury before.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Because Joe Burrow has that beautiful ball, he doesn't have
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: that that blow you away, like, oh, Dann, that thing
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: was a heater. It's more like it's where it needs
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he depends on his accuracy, That's what
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: he depends on. And your thumb. That's one of the
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: most important fingers in throwing the ball. So as far
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: as breakout player here, I feel like this kind of
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: goes fantasy football wise too. I think you know who
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about, Chase, but I think it's yeah,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be Chasing.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: That was my breakout player too. He's on my nasty team.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go check Brown. Let's go check Brown.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I hated that when you're Chase, I like, you're the
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: only Bengal.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I like you're the only Bengal.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I like, you know what with that bet that we
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: made a couple of weeks ago, if if it goes
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: in my favorite I'll get you a Chase Brown jersey.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: I'll get you I don't know Frongles jersey.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: No, but yeah, I think Chase Brown. I think he's
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be nice. Joe Mixon, he took a bunch of
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the volume last year, and I don't think Zach Moss
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be getting the Joe Mixon kind of carries.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna get No. Twenty twenty five touches.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: So I mean he was a dog.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: He was a dog.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: With Jonathan Taylor being out last season. He lived up.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: But this offensive line is trash.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Yeah, So I think he's gonna be
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the breakout player. I think he could be the running
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: back one later on in the year. And as far
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: as MVP year or MVP for this person, it's Jamar
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Chase for me. Jamar Chase. After a kind of disappointing season.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I know he had a thousand yards still statistically good year, yeah,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: and injuries too, But I think he's gonna go back
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: to what we saw those first two years. This dynamic,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: this dynamic, game changing type of player. I think he's
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: gonna go back to that.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, we're both I can't disagree. That's where
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, we picked the exact same Yeah, well all right,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: what he said, all right, next to one we have
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: is the Pittsburgh Steelers here, so they definitely made some
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: moves as well. Still haven't finished under five hundred yet
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: after ten thousand years, pretty much, But okay, as far
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: as big moves here, got Russell Wilson in the offseason
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and also got Justin Fields, so there's quarterback competition there.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: And then they got Zach Frazier, they got Peyton Wilson
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: in the off season, they got Troy Futanu, then they
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: got Patrick Queen, so they definitely got plenty of players
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: in the offseason as far as to build on what
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: they did last year as far as a physical play style.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: But and then they got the quarterback to Russell Wilson
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Justin Fields. So are they gonna make a Are they
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: gonna make a run this year? Defense has never been
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: the problem. It's been offense better. Yet is the offense
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: gonna improve this year? That's my question to you.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: The silence is definitely you know, no, They're They're not
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: gonna make a run. It's just nause Cook he's cooked.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: You know. Jalen Warren is there is the best running
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: back on this team. I do think he needs more
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: playing time splitting carry stuff. It works for only a
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: little bit. You need that playmaker. I think George Pickens
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: maybe George Pickens maybe takes a step forward being the
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: peer number one with Deontay Johnson gone. Also there's flaws
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: in his game too. I don't like the dog, actually
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I do, but he his his route running is suspect.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I understand he's a big physical receiver, but sometimes you
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: need to have that finesse. You need to be able
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: to get open. You know, people can stick on you
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: like glue and you can't throw them around all the time.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: You have to be able to create some separation. And
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: sometimes he struggles with that. And the Roman Wilson played
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: at Michigan not a believer, you know. It's just I'm sorry, Roman,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: maybe you have the potential. JJ McCarthy definitely didn't pull
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: it out completely, so we'll have to wait and see.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: But with Von Jefferson, with Bon Jefferson, Bon Jefferson is
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: a good, a good role player in this NFL. We're
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: not gonna get it wrong. But it's just in this offense.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: It's like, like, brother, that's that's what this offense is.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: His offense is nasty. I don't like it. I don't.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I don't have any good things to say.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, there's there's no reasons.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: We can't talk about it enough. Their defense consists the
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: top in the NFL. You're in your out. Reason why
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: they sticking to the playoffs every single year? His offense
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: is just disgusting. How did they not even have a
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: quarterback yet? You know Ben Roethlisberger. They're wishing he had
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: more years in the tank for sure, and he's been
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: retired for a couple of years already.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, this is mediocre quarterback play, so you're gonna
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: get mediocre results. And not to mention, you have Arthur
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Smith as your offensive coordinator. Maybe he's a better coordinator
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: than head coach. Maybe I'm being a little bit optimus.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Don't draft George Pickens. Guys just saying, don't draft George Pickens.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Don't draft him. Arthur Smith's gonna screw you over. Don't
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: draft him. Don't draft him.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I already see him getting all this hype.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you see people that fishing them
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: all the way in the fourth.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: And they forget. They don't they don't do deeper research.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: They don't don't know, they don't know who they're messing with.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Bro, they don't. They don't at all. I have.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a picture in my room of Arthur Smith.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put a big o' X over it,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: just like every time I walk out. Everyon walk out,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: he's gonna flip it off, you know, just keep going.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I remember I made a trade. I don't
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: remember exactly the trade, but I got Bijon Robinson. I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: was like, hell, yeah, I gonna get out this volume
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: rookie running back. Surely this could go great.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Got used as a decoy one game.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I remember the game, I don't I don't know who
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: they were playing exactly. I think it was Tampa where
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: he got one snap. Was it the Panthers where he
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: got one snaps? Yeah? One snap the entire game? So yeah, no,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: But again, it's all gonna depend on quarterback play. Russell Wilson,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's past his prime justin fields. Maybe
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: he didn't have the best opportunity, but you rebuilt that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: offensive line, but you still don't have the weapons on
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: the outside, so it's a big question mark. You did
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: rebuild your offensive line, so maybe Roder Jones, Yeah, maybe
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: maybe it'll be better. Maybe it'll be better. And I'll
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: say with this playing style that they have the as
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: far as the identity of the team, it's definitely there.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: They're gonna run the football a lot, and they're gonna
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: play good defense and being low scoring games, so they
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: could win some football games. They're gonna be this team
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: that ends up with eight nine wins, maybe ten, and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: all the games that they're gonna win is probably like
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: seventeen to ten ball games because that's just their style
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: of play. And Mike Tomlin, he's that damn good of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a coach. As far as MVP here, this is easy. TJ. Watt.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: TJ Watt, He's one of the best players on this
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: or in the world, let alone on this team. And
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. Just just listen to me, just
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: just hear me out. I think the breakout player statistically,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, this is a big caveat for
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: me statistically is gonna be Naji Harris because I feel
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: like he's gonna get a bunch of volume here. I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: feel like he's gonna end up getting a bunch of volume,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna make him have like two hundred and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: fifty maybe three hundred touches, potentially over a thousand total
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: purpose yards like ten touchdowns. I know you're not amused
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: by that. I can see that, Naji Harris out of here, Bro,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: So what Jaylen Warren's taking that spot? I could see
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Jayleen Warren Warren here, but I don't know. I can't
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: trust Arthur Smith.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Breakout is Joey Porter Jr. Okay, my guy, Joey Porter.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: My first ever so called MVP is Joey Yeah, your
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: first ever He's about to take that next step into
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: being one of the best corners in the NFL. And
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I'm putting that out there. Joey Porter breakout?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll see.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: But last scene, Harris, bro nausey bros.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Cook Bro, Bro, it was it was hard to pick
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: a breakout player for this team. You don't understand right there? Well,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: I knew you're gonna pick Joey Porter. This was kind
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: of obvious here. You you always say Joey Porter. I
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: think he's been like three years so called.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: Three You know what, I get we had we get Fau.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: We don't know what he's gonna be yet. For the Chiefs,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Joey Porter was sitting right there at thirty at thirty two, Bro,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: like he was right there. Like I get, he wasn't
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: in need. He wasn't in need at all. But dang
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: it sneak gone. We would have had Joey and try McDuffie. Bro,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: that would have been nasty. And then plus we would
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: have had you know, either Joshua William, Jalen Watson, Nasei
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Johnson to step up. You know, they step up every year.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: But we would have had clear, clear cut for the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: next three years, four years at least, of who our
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: top cornerbacks were gonna be.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. Has f A you even gotten
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: playing time?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I mean he plays, but like I think last year
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: was more of like a red shirt developmental because he
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: was the youngest player I think in the draft like
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: last something like that. I think I think he was
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: like a he won freshman he was a freshman and
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: one big twelve defensive player of the year.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Dang, I did not know that.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so all right, this year they're saying and camp,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: you're looking nice. I'm saying in camp, he is looking nice,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: did a little did a little bit of that jiu
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: jitsu work with my boy, George car Laftis and Tampaul.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: You know, so he's about to take a step.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: But I saw George carl Laughkis. I saw him light up.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony, Yeah, damn football hold on. But all right,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: as far as his last team here in the AFC North,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: it's the Cleveland Browns here, which this team, they also
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: made plenty of moves in the offseason. So first thing
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: that did get Jerry Judy from the Broncos, re signs
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: with Darius Smith, got Jordan Hicks, Shelby Shelby, Harris, Maurice Hurst,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Nahem Himes, Clinton Jefferson, Jameis Winston, Donta Foreman, and then
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: so they definitely signed a bunch of players here. But
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: obviously this is all gonna depend on Deshaun Watson here.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Nick Chubb looks like all sciences he's gonna be coming back.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: So how how do you feeling about the Browns? Do
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: you feel like Deshaun Watson can make that jump?
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: It's Jamis, It's jams Jamo's time, Jamis Winston, It's Jameis
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Winston season, Baby, Watch Watch, Jameis Winston will be the
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: starter of the Cleveland Browns by the end of the season.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be glorious to watch. It's gonna be amazing
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: to watch. You know. You know what worked for them,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: slinging the football. You know who slings the football and
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: don't care. Jameis bro Jameis is going to get it
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: there or he's not, and I don't care.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: He No, he's gonna get it there. Just it depends
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: on the team.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: But no promises, no promises how it's gonna end up. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: but no, this team's the best team in the division,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: hands down. Oh Roster top to bottom, Mary Cooper, Dog,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Nick Chubb, Jerome Ford, Deontay Foreman, Dogs, Deontay Foreman. He
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: gives you those four or five games a year. He
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: gives you those four or five games a year, and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: it never fails. They're perfect, Nick Chubb, Wait and see,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: we'll wait and see what he is. I doubt I
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: see sadly, I seriously doubt he's gonna be the same player.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: You know, arguably the best peer runner in the NFL.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think I think those days are gone. You can't.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: You can't do that. No, that was very disrespectful. Omari
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Cooper is a dog.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: He did damn good, damn good with Joe Fla he is.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but okay, it's hard
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: real quick.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I remember in a championship game where it was third place.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: It was gonna be either go to third place or
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: go to the championship. I remember facing a Mark Cooper
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: fifty point game.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I still, oh, yeah, he went, he had that. I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: still remember.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I still hate know who did.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I still used to bro, I literally would have won, dude, Like,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: dude literally had I can't. That same week he had
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: a Mari Cooper and then he had someone else like
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: went insane. Also, I want to say it was Jamier Gibbs,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: like I want to say it was one of those
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Jami Gibbs game. And then he had another player who
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: went scorched Earth also, and I was like, bro, like,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: what is this just what I was supposed to do?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Who whose man's is this?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: But I I think Jerry Judy will play better. I
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: think he will play better on the Cleveland Browns. I
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: just don't. I just think the Broncos is a bad situation.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: The coaching is definitely better. I don't think Sean Payton's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: that great of a coach. Argue with your mom when
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: never made it back to an NFC championship after winning
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: the ser Bowl. Ever, no one talks about that. Dude,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: dude can live off one ring. I guess dude can
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: live off one ring. I guess you know. But Drew
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Brees made him. Jerry Judy, Nah, he's on. He's on
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: my rival.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: You think there's love, you think there's love in this
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: heart of mine. To Sean Payton, I can't do it.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: I can't do it. No, But Jerry Judy, I think
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: he can take that next step. I believe in Elijah
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Moore still. I don't think he's getting used correctly at all.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I think he's a good player in this league. I
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: just think what they try making him is being that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: gadget player. He's a pure receiver, Like let him play ball,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Like let him run a round for God's sake, good
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: enough of these in the rounds and in and outs
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: and short passes. Let him let him go, let him
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: go crazy. And then David Joku. I think we saw
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: the potential of David Joku I think we saw what
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: he can be with a quarterback who can get him
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: the football. Joe Flacco un lock David Djoku to a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: whole other level. Like it was, it was insane to
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: watch because I didn't think he had that in him.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: But with a quarterback who takes chances, he became a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: great player. I mean, the offensive line is always good
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: for Cleveland. This defense you can't talk enough about. You know,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: they have Miles Garrett arguably the best Denzel Award. You know,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: my boy won Thornhill consistently good. So yeah, Zadarius Smith,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: it's just I don't know. This team for me, the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: best team in this division. And then Nick Stefanski, you
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: know what can we say? You know, good player, good coach.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, this is all going to depend on
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson here. Like you said, this is one of
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: the best ros Yeah, best best rosters in the NFL.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: If Deshaun Watson can be let me let me see
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: if I could put this right, if he could be
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: a brock pretty mold, a top ten quarterback.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: On that bringing this guy up starting un still taking
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: to Shaun Watson a brock pretty to this day.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: No, no, you're not no, you're not. You know, Yes,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I am, Yes, I do now believe that.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am, I believe it. I believe it.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: If Deshaun Watson was on the Niners, are they still
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: making the super Bowl?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, bro, don't come at me with the hypotheticals that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: will never happen, that will never happen. Don't come at
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: me with these hypotheticals that will never happen. Bro. Stop,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: We're talking real life here.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: You know what, you know what, You're right, You're right. No,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: But Deshaun Watson, if he could be similar to the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: top ten, No, they wouldn't go to super Bowl if
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: he could kind of be a top ten. No, I'm
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: not saying super Bowl. I'm saying they could make like
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: a deep AFC playoff playoff runt, maybe.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Going to the the vision for the Niners question.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, No, no, noay in hell, no
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: way in hell. Yeah, Shawn Watson can even have shades
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: of what he did with the Texans, then this team
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: could be a game changer.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Is he has shades of what the Texans of a
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Texans Deshaun Watson, this team, it's scary. Shaun Watson was
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: that guy.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, quarterback is the only thing that's holding him back. Really,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: it's the only thing that's holding him back. But as
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: far as Dang going off on the Eagles, I agree
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the way I agree the way he doesn't talk about
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: that trash, the way that he trash trash. So m
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: VP Miles Garrett pretty simple here, then breakout player this one.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: It's tough for me, but I think I'm gonna say
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson here. I feel like he has a bounce
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: back year, not necessarily this crazy MVP type year, but
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: a bounce back year compared to last year. That's what
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I say. So who's your breakout player?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Break out player? This team is just good, like no
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: one has to break out. Yeah, m v P, I'm
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: giving it to Miles Garrett, no question. Breakout player. Let's go.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Let's go with Jerry Judy. Let's see what he can
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: turn into. Jerry Judy could be the breakout player. Dang,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love, than.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurrah, Mark Cooper trash trash, Jordan Love trash, Deshaun
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Watson trash, Adam.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: No No, I don't know where is Adam?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: What's the animosity?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: What did dude? No?
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: No? I know exactly what it is. No, he was
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: in afan or, he was in a fantasy football league.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: He biden or bought into the Adam Dealing hype. Any
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: problem fucked him over. I I guarantee you that's why
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: he hates Adam Deeling deeper. It's deeper than this. I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: don't know what deal it did, because I'm pretty sure
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: he's a Cowboys fan from what I'm looking at. I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: get all these names, but had the dealing, I don't.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that was crazy.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: That was out of left field, Adam Dealing trash, I
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: don't know, did you? But it must be his Melanie?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's go to give our predictions.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: For Russell Wilson, trash Fields, Gardner, minshe.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Dis Hey, Jamis Winston. Hey, that's a Florida state legend,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: right there, that's a Florida state legend.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: We can't we can't talk on Gardner, bro Gardner. Gardner's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: an American icon. You know you can't.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: He's a dog. He's a dog. But all right, yeah,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: let's give our predictions here. I don't know the right
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: straight out of feeling. We gotta we gotta dig deep
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: for this. I don't know. We gotta find out.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: NFL therapy, bro, I don't know what.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, let's get back on the track for
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: ditions here, So I'll go ahead and list mine. I
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: think the Ravens they're gonna be number one here, and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna go Bengals too. They're making the playoffs.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Brown's third, Steelers fourth, and they missed the playoffs, both
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: of those teams.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Well, you said Brown's third.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Brown's third. I think I think they missed the playoffs.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I really do think. You think they missed the playoffs.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: You're a wild boy. You're a wild boy. You're a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: wild boy, man. I don't know. I don't know about
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: We agree, but I don't know.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with that at all. Number four, the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers number three. Agree on that the Frongles number two,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens at number one, is gonna be the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, dang wow, Yeah you think you're where's
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: the man, man?
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Again, I don't I don't see the Browns missing the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: playoffs by like three four games. I think it's like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: they barely miss the playoffs. That's that's my think in there.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: I think maybe you think nine and eight, ten and
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: seven they missed the playoffs. AFC is just two damn stack.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I say they go like twelve and five.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Oh damn. So what you think Deshaun Watson ends up
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: being that that good? Right there?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: No, but I think the rest of the team is
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: that good.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: But you need your quarterback.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I guess that. But the Browns are
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: the brown I'm not gonna ignore the roster. I'm not
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: ignoring the roster.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. We'll we'll see, we'll see. We'll
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: see week one, crash, crash, I'll see week one. I'll
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: see week one because because Cowboys are playing them, I'll
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: see week one. I'm not giving.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: Predictions for that game yet, but Cowboys, I don't know.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I don't know. I don't know. We'll see,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: we'll we'll get to it next. But I don't know
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: if you have anything else to say about this AFC
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: north right here, but I think we pretty much covered it.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, you're crazy. That's what I say. That's
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: the last thing.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm crazy.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Your list trash crazy. We should title this Adam Feeling trash.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: You know what, Noah, thank you, thank you.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Breck Perdy, Ben the Doucci trash, Benucci.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: He's a Cowboys legend. He's a Cowboys legends.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Andy Dalton trash.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: What Marcus Mariota, dude, he watched he watched.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Man, He's still and just strays that random random NFL players. Now,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: I don't just feel what it is.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, Adam Feeling it was all time.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feeling. I don't know what he did.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he did, but yeah, all right.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Had he had a trend going, he had a trend going.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: And Adam Feler, He's like, it's like, it's like Luke arguing.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I still remember like I was whenever, whenever
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I was arguing with Luke there, whenever you just have
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: me on speaker man, man.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: For those I don't know, my Luke's my Luke's my
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: little brother. I mean he's not little like he's he's twenty.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, his arguments. There's a reason why Luke hasn't
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: been on the pod. Let's just say.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I don't think we have nothing
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: else really to talk about other than a so called MVPs. Here,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and get to those.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Four by one hundred America A murk a.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Baby, Yes, sir, first, yeah, go ahead, talk about.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Swimming, guys. For what my so called m v P
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: boys it is, Jesus Christ. Let's just say that. You know,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: in this world, they can mock, they can shame. Darn
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: you Olympics. That's all I got to say. You know, yeah,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: we're seeing it everywhere. You know, I don't know who
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: approved that ship. I'm just gonna say that. Sorry, I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: need to go back to confession. I keep cussing. I
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: told myself I was gonna stop, but here we are.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: But darn you Olympics. I'm just gonna say that, Jesus Christ,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: that's my m v P for life.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly. That's my the week, one of
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: the best so called MVPs. But I'm gonna say this.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: My so called m v P is my mom. Today's act.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Today is my mom's birthday right now as we're recording
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: one one of myday morning, So happy birthday to you. Mom.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: You're the best ever, You're the greatest. Would in trade
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: you for the world and just tell me so much,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: love you so much, and you're my so called MVP.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: But but I don't know.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: You said you said she I was gonna say, you
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: said she's the best ever. I was like, let's debate, moms, bro,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: debate mom.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Don't go mom debate, let's go.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Let's go bar for bar.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: For mom. Let's see, let's really see.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Let's really let's see your mom trash you know.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: That's mom stats for stead. All right, I think crazy.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: I think we need to go to get out her
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: happy birthday.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but before we get out, before we.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Gets trash key On Coleman trash, Lamark Jackson trash, Kylevin trash.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: This is not my doing, guys, I'm not I don't
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: agree with this. This is the this is the comments
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I'm reading. Juju Smith No, no, bro, you're not gonna
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: disrespect super Bowl champion Juju Smith Suster like that on
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: my podcast. You're not doing that. You're not doing that.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, Okay, let's let's slow down here. Noah,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: all right, no, noah, whoa. Let's let's let's slow down here.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Let's let's not get too crazy here let's not get
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: too crazy here. But all right, yeah, no, I think
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: we need to go ahead and get out of here,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Josh for our next one. So again, next week we're
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: doing the same exact thing, adding a little bit more,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: maybe some fantasy football content, and then we're talking about
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of more divisions next week. But you guys
• 1:20:57
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• 1:21:07
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• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: it to anybody who likes sports. But Josh, any last words.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Nah, bro, we're in in this pod right now. I'm
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: not I'm not even gonna say that last last comment
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: that was right there. That's insane.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: You know, y'all have a good week.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: We'll catch y'all. When we catch y'all, maybe coming up soon,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: coming up real soon. We'll do another pot or not.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We're just we just be out here,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: you know, go Team USA.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sir, we'll see how it goes. But all right,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: we'll see you guys soon. You guys take care.