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Altered - Psychological Techniques · Ryder Lee

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  Imagine world where you can see anyone, go anywhere, do anything. Are
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  the artificial intelligence created to protect us? Detonated a nuclear warhead in Los Angeles.
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  We are seeing ongoing cyber attacks across the country. We have unconfirmed reports
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  of a large seismic event off the California coast, with reports of power outages
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  across the United States. Nineteen states have succeeded. The United States Army rams
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  of activity. The White House issued warnings to the Western Forces as well as
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  the Florida Alliance. Sure President assures the uprising booming down with swiftly. Hello
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  and welcome to another episode of the Headless Giant Podcast. I got my buddy
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  Rider lead and we're going to be talking about mind control drugs and mind control
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  operations. Talking a little bit about what you can expect to see from mind
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  control drugs, some of the symptoms, some of the history, and let's
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  get into it. So I guess we're going to talk a little bit about
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  MK Ultra program. This is Rider Lee Raised by Giants podcast. Why don't
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  you introduce them yourself and tell people where they can find you. What's up?
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  Brother, Thanks so much for having me on. Really appreciate it.
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  Always love these kind of lead back conversations of some of the best ones that
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  I've had or super laid back and chill. Yes, you can find me
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  on Raised by Giants, on YouTube and Indian all podcast platforms. You can
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  follow me on Raised by Giants, eight, on Twitter and well Twitter x
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  and Instagram at Raised by Jarian's Pod. And I am back on Facebook.
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  Yes, after a half, well more than almost a year hiatus from Facebook,
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  I am now back because you know, you got to utilize all those
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  platforms, my friend, you got to do do the whole deal. When
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  you're a content creator, you can't be slacking on a lot of those platforms.
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  So thanks for happy. Even though it's distasteful, I get on Facebook
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  and I feel like I got to take a shower afterwards. It's like,
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  oh, it was so toxic, so toxic on on Facebook. But what's
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  interesting is that like TikTok, but trying to do the TikTok band, And
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  regardless of what you think of like TikTok, I think that the reason that
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  they're hiding it under the guys that is China and like a data collection thing
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  when it's really not. It's really about the ability to blow up and go
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  viral. They don't want normal everyday people having the ability to amass thousands and
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  thousands of views. You know, TikTok is kind of well, not so
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  much anymore, but it used to be the way that YouTube was. Remember
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  YouTube back in the early two thousands to mid two thousands, Like people would
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  just blow up on there because the algorithms supported it. And that's kind of
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  what TikTok was, and that's why they were going after TikTok, you know,
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  hardcore and saying, oh, it's trying to spy, which it may
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  be, who knows, but at least with TikTok, they they would push
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  your videos out regardless of what you said or what the content was even about.
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  So I think that that's what's going on with this government TikTok band.
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  It's not about data, it's not about Chinese spying on us. It's literally
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  the ability to blow up and go viral, and they don't want to just
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  give that ability to anyone and everyone. So they're starting to reel that back
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  now. And now TikTok is getting more community guidelines stuff, just like what
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  YouTube did with people, right, they can just slap on the community guidelines
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  violation for whatever it is that they want, even though though you may not
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  have even have done anything. So that's the direction that TikTok is going.
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  So really, X is our only uh free speech platform, so well,
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  I mean it's it's definitely better than a lot of the other ones, right,
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  you can pretty much get on there. I know that there's still been
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  people that's lost their account and gotten violations and all that, but for the
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  most part, for me, I've never gotten anything on X ever. But
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  I've gotten them on Instagram, I've gotten them on Facebook, We've gotten them
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  on YouTube, gotten them on TikTok. Right, it's like, as soon
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  as I start to get any kind of momentum going, it's like boom,
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  immediately a freaking community guidelines violation every time, everywhere but acts. But you're
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  trying to break stories, that's the that's the problem. If you're coming out
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  with rehashed old material that a lot of other people have done, they don't
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  care so much. But if you've got original reporting and you've got original perspectives
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  and original you know, breaking news, they don't want that. They don't
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  want that at all. And you know, in a lot of ways,
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  I see that as sort of like the mind control aspect. It's it's you've
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  got to control the filters, right, So if you can control the filters
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  as to what people are focusing on and thinking about, you can have a
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  much greater degree of control. And I think we saw that really with the
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  with the Google studies that they were doing, where they actually looked at which
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  search results popped up most often, and they found that with a little bit
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  of manipulation, you can basically control a person's attention and focus it towards the
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  places you want them to go. And in an election year, that's incredibly
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  important. But well, not only that, you've got Google's AI doing all
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  kinds of wacky things. Well yeah, Google's AI like given diversity and like
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  creating people out of thin air, and you know, it's wild. I'm
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  pretty sure Google's AI has lost millions of dollars based off of the bogus results.
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  Whenever you type in something you know and they give you stuff that isn't
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  true, you know, it's like, well, you know what's going on
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  here? I thought Google was supposed to be the arbiter of truth and the
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  Google AI is just making up a bunch of nonsense. And throwing people into
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  roles that they weren't supposed to, that they were never in. You know,
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  it's it's so interesting that people think that we live in such an advanced
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  society, in such an advanced world when and that thing is, you know,
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  can just you get better and get better and better? And I'm like,
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  well, you know, is it really is AI really that good?
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  I haven't seen AI really produce quality things, right, Well, that's the
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  point is that it's low quality and mass production, you know. I mean
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  it's all you see everywhere is just this low quality AI video and just slapped
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  out there. All these people who do voice acting and everything else. They're
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  all out of a job. You know, why would you need them?
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  You just need three minutes of their speech, you know. And writers too,
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  you know, writers are really going to suffer hardcore, especially movie writing
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  and TV writing. And I think that that was the whole purpose of that
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  whole writer strike in Hollywood, right, It was like, oh, well,
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  you guys don't want to work, you guys want to be paid more.
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  Well, guess what we're gonna do. We're just gonna have AI take
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  all your jobs. AI is now are going to rule and write all these
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  shows, you know. I mean, I'm pretty sure that what's that one
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  movie where they had the evil the Evil kids Superman. It wasn't like Superman,
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  but it was you know, gave the impression and the idea that it
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  was no, no, no, no. It was like a rated R
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  like Superhero movie where it was like a kid and then he was like an
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  evil Superman. I can't think of the name bright Burn. No, isn't
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  that bright Burn? I don't know. Anyway, they're making a sequel to
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  that movie, and it's going to be completely written by AI, right,
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  and they could have AI actors and everything and just go in and re edit
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  it. All you gotta do is put in the text and now you get
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  pretty high quality video. It's almost indistinguishable from you know, regular video.
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  And these are all just AI characters, all just rendered out of nothing.
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  So I think that's gonna be a huge mind control factor in the next coming
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  elections. I don't know if you heard, but they recently caught a teacher
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  who was about to get fired try to frame the principle for racism by making
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  an AI recording of his voice and then saying this is him saying those racist
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  things and before it could take off, they just ran it through a program.
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  They're like, no, this is AI. This guy's trying to frame
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  up this principle because he was getting fired. And now this is our first
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  AI false flag. So I think there's gonna be lots more, you know.
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  Well, then that becomes a question too, is like, well,
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  if we're just now getting this type of technology in the public is able to
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  do this, how long have these other organizations and through letter agencies in the
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  military and the government had this technology. Because we know that they don't give
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  us anything that they don't already have. There's no possible way that AI was
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  just now created in the pas past couple of years. I mean, AI
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  has been running these social media companies for freaking years. I think that these
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  are people that are that are doing all this stuff. And it's not people.
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  It's freaking AI. I mean, it's it's all and it's been AI
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  for a really long time. And I'm sure that if you talk to somebody
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  that works at one of these social media companies, they don't even know how
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  it works. Well, we do have no idea. We do have your
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  work as sort of like a benchmark when it comes to jfk X and your
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  high quality video showing the squibs, because if they had AI back then,
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  they wouldn't have had to do all that, you know, all the editing
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  and all the missing frames and everything else. That's a pretty good benchmark.
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  Maybe at that point they started to pivot away from thinking about you know,
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  physical effects. I mean, look at the moon landing. You can see
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  a lot of physical effects going on there. And I think having that sort
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  of benchmark is important because now we could sort of see the transition and because
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  the governments have always been involved in hoaxing and faking things, and what we
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  see now is sort of like the next level of that, the next iteration.
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  And I think, you know, even UFOs, if we want to
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  talk about mind control UFOs, I know, uh, you've got the operation
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  Bluebeam. I don't know how real that is. I think that's more of
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  like a preparatory thing, sort of getting people accustomed to the idea of it.
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  But at the same time, that would be a mind control event,
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  just a mass level hoax that if you go against it in the future after
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  that point, you're a pariah. You know. That's That's sort of the
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  thing too, is having big events that are meant to shape your personality and
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  shape your mental perception, creates a rift automatically right off that, Right off
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  the bat. People have two solutions in mind, they're given two solutions,
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  and if those two solutions don't accommodate, then they add another one, They
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  add another layer, and then they put that into the mix and see where
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  things shake out. But basically, like you were saying, the reason why
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  they want control over these platforms is because they don't want to let something go
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  viral that they don't already have a narrative for. That's right, That's exactly
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  right. And with Project Bluebeam, I don't think that that's ever going to
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  happen because there's been too many people that's warned against that, and normally things
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  that people mourning about and say that is going to happen never happens. And
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  I talked about, actually talked with a gentleman that's going to be in our
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  second documentary which is going to be about MK Ultra in Hollywood and Stanley Kubrik
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  and the moon landings and the shining and all that. And his dad was
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  the right hand man to Sydney Gottlieb, which was ahead of the MK Ultra
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  programs I was, and I was yeah, and I was sitting down and
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  I was talking with him, and you know, he brought up this,
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  uh, this idea of you know, Project Blue Beam, and uh he
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  was like, oh, yeah, there's supposed well he brought up that people
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  were seeing Mother Mary, remember that whole big thing back I don't know,
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  maybe eight ten years ago, where people were seeing like visions of like Mother
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  Mary and all that. And I was like and I was like, yeah,
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  that that seems like a Project blue Beam type of thing, Project blue
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  Beam event, right, because I think that that was you know, the
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  goal was to you know, make it seem like these messiahs from these religious
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  camps have all come back, you know. So for the Christians it would
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  be Jesus, you know, for the Muslims would be Mohammed. The Buddhas
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  that would be Buddha, and they're all descending from the clouds and all that.
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  And then he was, well, you know what Project blue Beam originally
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  was, right, I said, oh, no, I don't and he
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  said, well, it was an MK Ultra subproject, but it wasn't called
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  a Project Blue Beam. It's called Project Blue Bolt. And the what they
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  were trying to do with Project Blue Bolt was to put the vision, not
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  make it external to people, but to beam the hallucination directly inside of people's
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  heads, so instead of making it external to them, like something that they
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  see in the sky is actually a hallucination that's being beamed into your head.
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  And that made sense to me because then you can make other people see different
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  things than other people, because if everyone saw the same thing, I mean,
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  everyone's got cameras in their pocket. Now, you know you have a
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  very high definition camera on your phone that you can get video of something.
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  So if they did a big event like that, then they would see that,
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  well, this country is seeing Buddha, this other country is seeing Muhammad,
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  this other country is seeing Jesus. So why is all this stuff different?
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  It made more sense that, well, if they did it inside of
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  your head, if they beam the signal directly into your head, then it
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  could all be happening simultaneously. But everybody's seeing something different, right, And
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  then that correlates to what mk Ultra Monarch survivor Kathy o Brim I've talked about
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  on my show several times before that that's pretty much what they did with her.
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  But they did it with an extraterrestrial. They did it with a reptilian.
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  They showed her and holographic portrayal of a reptilian and tried to make her
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  believe that it was these extraterrestrial tillions that was responsible for all the stuff in
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  order to cover up government involvement and human beings actually being the ones to do
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  this. And that's what I think the agenda is behind the extraterrestrial narrative,
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  is to cover up the fact that it's all humans and it's always been humans.
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  But in order to take the blame away from humans, they've created an
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  invisible scapegoat, something that you never see, something that you can't prove exist,
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  something that you don't that no one can prove exists, there's no evidence
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  for. So if you can shift the blame to something that is questionable,
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  if it's even real or not, then you can continue to get away with
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  everything that you've been doing, all the other crimes, and the real humans
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  and the real people that are perpetrating this upon humanity just gets slid under the
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  rug. And I think even the hardcore UFO people call those like screen visions
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  or something where you've got this sort of screen reality in front of what's actually
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  going on, and it's funny that that would be, you know, an
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  admission. But at the same time, you have to assume that these programs
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  are actually harder to fool people with up close. You know, you'd have
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  to have several trained magicians on staff basically figuring out the best angles and the
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  best ways that you could have these things work out and not suspect that there
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  were humans behind it. But doing that brings a lot of heat, you
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  know, brings a lot of attention, and so you don't necessarily want that.
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  You got to kind of make do with what you have and just hope
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  that not enough people are into it. But I think times like now,
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  when people are focused on the UFO thing, they're really starting to ask the
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  tough questions of their own governments, is like, how much involvement is this
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  Because you guys were involved in MK ultra and you poison many, many thousands
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  of people, you know, and you had Clyde Lewis talking about how there
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  was experiments going on in West Virginia. Yeah, that was a very interesting
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  theory which I brought up my theory of what happened with the Mothman and he
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  had a whole new one and how it was kind of like, holy crap.
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  It makes a lot of sense, and of course we don't know if
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  it's true or because there's no evidence and no proof of it, but it's
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  a very interesting theory. But at least he agreed with me that they,
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  you know, purposefully brought down the silver Bridge and you know, did that
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  on purpose to distract away from something now, regardless if that was the Mothman
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  or if it was, you know, to get people off track on really
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  what was going on. And it's just a coincidence that nobody in Point Pleasant
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  after the silver Bridge collapsed ever saw the Mothman again, you know, And
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  I don't think that that's a coincidence. And putting two and two together,
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  the minut Black showing up to tell the people at Point Pleasant to kind of
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  stop talking about the moth Man. It kind of correlates when you put two
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  and two together. But you know, it's just a theory. But the
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  interesting part of screen Memories is that screen Memories first popped up with Bud Hopkins
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  in his book, and I believe in nineteen eighty it was either nineteen eighty
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  or nineteen eighty one called missing time, and he created a lot of different
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  theories that have been perpetuated with in the community. One is, you know,
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  of course, missing time. The other one is, you know,
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  screen memories and how we got these ideas and these thoughts were regressing so called
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  alien abductees and experiencers. Right, And this is where the whole thing of
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  like regression really like takes on a life of its own, because you know,
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  regression was never meant to, you know, hypnotic aggression was never meant
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  to like find out if you had been freaking abducted or that if you had
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  alien contact or like any of that stuff. It had everything to do with
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  like helping you better your life, like quit smoking, like you know,
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  help people with addictions and stuff like that. And then it's evolved into like
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  a past life thing or an alien regression thing or an alien abduction thing.
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  And yeah, and the problem is is whenever if you have somebody that already
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  thinks that they've been abducted, they go to a person that is quote unquote
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  specialized in alien abduction regression sessions. Right, what do you think that you're
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  going to find alien abduction regressions? That's right? And then if you go
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  to a you know, let's say, it's kind of like the theory that
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  I've you know, kind of been trying to talk to people about. It's
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  like, and I spoke about it with Clyde Lewis yesterday. You know,
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  if you take a paranormal investigator, you take them to a haunted location,
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  they're going to find they're gonna come out of there saying that the house was
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  haunted. Right, you take a Bigfoot investigator into that exact same house,
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  they're gonna come out and say, it's Bigfoot. Bigfoot's definitely here, Bigfoot's
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  been here. If you take an alien and a UFO investigator to the exact
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  same house, they're gonna come out with say, oh, it's it's definitely
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  aliens. You know, like we tend to just stay on our preconceived notions
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  of what we already believe, and when we already believe in something, it's
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  easy to see that everywhere. You know, It's kind of like that old
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  expression, if you look into something long enough, you can create whatever it
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  is that fits your agenda. You know, if you dig hard enough,
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  you can find whatever it is to support your your preconceived beliefs. Thoughts and
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  ideas. It's kind of like Bible right, Like you can the Bible is
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  like a catch all for everything, Like you can pretty much find an example
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  of anything in the Bible to justify your beliefs or your idea or whatever it
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  is that's going on in your life at that time. You can find a
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  reference for something that's happening to you in the Bible, right, And it's
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  done that way on it's written that way on purpose. Right. But at
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  the same time, I think people have done this naturally, like we see
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  the examples in polytheism where you'll have similar gods in different areas, but they
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  kind of change from one place to the next. And I think what it
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  really depends on is what the people are focused on, and I think that
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  goes back into what their professions are in that area and how they make their
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  living. So you'll have some Bible versus in a city that will be focused
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  on and then in a rural community, they're obviously going to be much more
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  agrarian in the Bible and they're going to be focusing on those things. So
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  it's almost like the land and how you work the land is sort of the
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  lens and how you view God and the supernatural and all the rest of these
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  things. You know, unfortunately that doesn't make for very easy communication, but
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  at the same time it makes sense and a lot of contradictions as well,
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  you know, like they can just contradict each other. And that's why there's
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  all these different sects of Christianity, you know, there's why there's all these
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  different denominations because they're like, oh, well, I don't believe in that
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  section that you're talking about. I'm going to go create my own church and
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  create my own thing where the people believe what I believe. You know,
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  it's the exact same type of rhetoric, and that's been spread across really everything.
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  And when you look into the MK Ultra programs, man, you see
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  that the government really was trying to bring the experiments and the things that they
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  were doing on an individual level to the public, but under the guise of
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  something virtuous. And that's something that's been a thing for a really long time.
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  It's always been in the guys of something virtuous, because the way to
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  get people on board with something is to make them believe that it's their idea
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  to do it. That's how everything works, that's how the whole AI thing
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  that we were talking about earlier. That's how all that works because four or
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  five years ago you had, especially people in this community, they were like,
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  oh, oh, I'll never use AIS the devil, I'll never mess
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  with no way, I don't want to know cyborgs run running my stuff,
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  you know. And now all those people are on board with it. They're
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  all using it right right, So what you do is that you have to
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  subvert them in a way that makes them think that they actually have a benefit,
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  that they're going to get something out of it. And then whenever a
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  few pe people hop on board with it and the others that were against it
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  for a long period of time sees what kind of benefit that it gave the
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  people that were into it, then they jump on board because they're like,
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  oh, well, I don't want to be at a disadvantage. Like these
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  people have an upper hand because they're using AI to create some of their content,
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  write their stuff, make AI photos, make AI videos, so I
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  might as well jump on the bandwagon too. And that's how things are really
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  gotten away with. But through studying these mk Ultra programs, you see that
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  and this is an important thing because a lot of people think that mk Ultra
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  was just about LSD and that's not true. That's uh, but that's what
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  they try and put it out there as like a like a wacky thing that
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  they don't do anymore. And then it all just was from this wacky guy,
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  Sidney Gottlieb that was into the occult and all this stuff, and he
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  was just trying to dose these people with LST to try and see if he
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  can mind control them and make them do things that they normally wouldn't do.
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  But that's through reading the documentation, which there's been a lot of them that
• 26:11
  has been destroyed. I believe whenever the CIA got in trouble for doing the
• 26:22
  mkulture programs, they ended up burning I think documentation for at least one hundred
• 26:29
  and fifty to two hundred or maybe even more documents. So you have one
• 26:34
  hundred and thirty nine subprojects of mk Ultra that are verified, but who knows
• 26:41
  how many more that there were, and who knows how many more Canada also
• 26:45
  got because whenever mk Ultra, you know, got in trouble and the CIA
• 26:48
  got in trouble, they just outsourced all that to Canada and Canada kind of
• 26:52
  took over the program after that. But when you look into these programs and
• 26:56
  you read the documentation, which a lot of people don't because they they either
• 27:03
  don't have the time, they don't want to do it, they think that
• 27:04
  it's boring, But some documentation is really really important to read. You'll see
• 27:10
  through the mk Ultra subprojects that not only were they using LSD, they were
• 27:17
  using UH anti psychotics. Antipsychotics were tested on these mk Ultra victims before that
• 27:23
  they were brought to the public. Anti depressing phyt huge all pretty much all
• 27:30
  of them, and amphetamines emhetamines were tested on k Ultra victims before that they
• 27:36
  were brought to the public. Which amphetamines is like adderall and brittle in which
• 27:40
  adderall and brittlin, you know, that's given to our children at a really
• 27:44
  young age for ADHD, you know. And all of those types of pharmaceutical
• 27:51
  compounds and pharmaceutical drugs were tested on the people within the programs before they were
• 27:57
  brought to the public. And it just brings into the question, well,
• 28:03
  you know what's going on here? And when you look at the statistics,
• 28:10
  which I looked them up, like I don't know, like a year ago,
• 28:11
  and the most recent study that I could find was from twenty to fourteen
• 28:17
  to twenty and sixteen, and that study said that forty eight percent of the
• 28:26
  United States population was on some form of pharmaceutical drug. Now, that's an
• 28:32
  alarming amount of people, very alarming, And I'm confident in saying seven to
• 28:38
  eight years later after that study, it's dramatically gone up. I could confidently
• 28:45
  say, even though there's not you know, confirmation on online, or there's
• 28:52
  not any study that's been done in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,
• 28:56
  I can you could pretty much agree that you could say that more than half
• 29:03
  of the United States is on some form of pharmaceutical drug. Now, what
• 29:11
  is that doing to the population? You know? Is that stunning our spiritual
• 29:15
  growth? Is that cutting off our connection to the earth? Is that cutting
• 29:21
  off our our spiritual antenna? You know? Jerry Jerry Marzinsky Watch is a
• 29:30
  psychiatrist and he went to I've had him on my show three times, I
• 29:34
  believe. And he's a psychiatrist who read a wrote a book called The Amazing
• 29:40
  Journey into the Psychotic Mind, and he went around to all of these prisons
• 29:45
  and hospitals and emergency units and emergency care units, and he worked with schizophrenic
• 29:55
  people, and he discovered that these drugs really do nothing and they pretty much
• 30:03
  make the symptoms worse. Now that's not my opinion, that's his opinion.
• 30:07
  He's a psychiatrist. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a psychiatrist. I
• 30:11
  don't know, uh, you know, I can't comment on the effectiveness or
• 30:15
  the non effectiveness of any of these drugs. And I've never used any of
• 30:18
  them, so I don't know how they are. But he says that with
• 30:22
  working with these schizophrenics and these people, which brings in a completely other conversation
• 30:29
  of like these voices that these patients here, and the where do our thoughts
• 30:33
  come from? You know, our thoughts, our own thoughts. And he
• 30:37
  equates it to like, you know, our consciousness is like kind of like
• 30:41
  a dial, right, like a radio frequency, And depending on where you
• 30:49
  turn the dial on the radio band depends on the type of thoughts that you
• 30:55
  get. So if you're turning it at high frequency, you're going to get
• 30:57
  more positive thoughts. Of tuning it to lower frequency, you're going to get
• 31:00
  low, you know, more malicious and more evil thoughts. And he equates
• 31:07
  these schizophrenic people and these ones that have, you know, mental health problems.
• 31:15
  As to being demonically possessed, No, I can't confirm or deny that
• 31:22
  either, because I don't really know what a demon is, Like I don't
• 31:26
  think anyone really knows what actual demon is. But if it was a demon,
• 31:30
  then it would be in control of your thoughts. It would be a
• 31:34
  voice. But the way that he explains it is it's not an external voice,
• 31:40
  right. He says that it's not a voice that's talking to these people
• 31:44
  that's different than what they are. You know, it's not like a I
• 31:48
  am the voices, I am demon, beels abub or whatever. He says
• 31:55
  that it's literally the just the voice in your head is alms like you,
• 32:01
  but it's really destructive and very negative. It tells you all these evil things,
• 32:07
  like to harm yourself, to harm others. And I think it's a
• 32:13
  possibility that a lot of this has to do with drugs. Drugs is the
• 32:17
  portal that opens this up. And I actually had him back on with another
• 32:22
  gentleman. His title is Boston Boston two percent. That's his tag on a
• 32:34
  social media and on TikTok, and I had him on and he's talking about
• 32:37
  how methanphetamine just opened his like put him into like a complete psychosis where he
• 32:46
  thought that he was God and that he had like all these superpowers and like
• 32:52
  all this stuff that he's talking about. And I'm like, well, yeah,
• 32:54
  I mean that makes sense that, you know, and ALYSSA drug use
• 32:58
  is a really big factor as well, So you not only have pharmaceutical drugs,
• 33:04
  you also have illiced drugs, like illegal drugs that you can't get from
• 33:07
  a pharmacy or get with a doctor's prescription that almost sort of kind of does
• 33:12
  the exact same thing. I mean, you can go into a psychosis with
• 33:15
  cocaine, you can go into a psychosis with you know, crack, you
• 33:20
  can go into psychosis with myths. Some people can go into a psychosis with
• 33:23
  freaking downers, you know. So we're being hit from many different angles.
• 33:30
  And I don't think that there's an actual study of how many people in the
• 33:36
  United States are on illicit drugs. There may be, I might be able
• 33:40
  to google it, but if you combine illicit drugs with pharmaceutical drugs, then
• 33:45
  the numbers just go up, right, and they continue to go up.
• 33:51
  So it's like, what is happening you're in. Of course, I want
• 33:53
  to let you talk because I've been rambling for a second. No, I
• 33:57
  think you're bringing up a really good topic there, which is the intersection between
• 34:01
  drugs and spirituality. I think that's been you know, so played out when
• 34:07
  it comes to hallucinogens and all the rest of these different mind expanding experiences,
• 34:14
  that there's some sort of connection between how we perceive the world and how you
• 34:19
  know, we interact with it. And I think, you know, for
• 34:22
  a long time, you can find even references in the Bible, the marijuana
• 34:28
  references, like cana in the Bible is actually marijuana. It comes from the
• 34:31
  Proto Indo European word cana, which means cannabis, canna bossam, and so
• 34:37
  they're referencing that as a sacrifice or a burnt offering. And so what you
• 34:45
  can assume is that that's what was going on inside the temples all across the
• 34:51
  Mediterranean, is they had these massive braziers full of cana that they would burn,
• 34:54
  and you know, people would come to the temple and get really super
• 34:59
  high as these offerings were going on. And so you know, that should
• 35:02
  put some of the ancient religions into perspective is you know, if it doesn't
• 35:08
  make sense, it's probably because the people who are experiencing these things were really
• 35:13
  super high. You know, I agree. You know, having that perspective,
• 35:22
  it brings us up to the CIA and what they've been doing using because
• 35:27
  again what you keep talking about is that it's all sort of connected to prophecy.
• 35:30
  They want to be able to say this is going to happen, and
• 35:34
  then having the people experience that so that they can all be on the same
• 35:37
  page, all beyond the same narrative. And that's the essence of what I
• 35:42
  think mind control is is giving people a prompt having something happen, and then
• 35:49
  shoveling them all into that narrative sort of portal or dichotomy so that you know,
• 35:54
  they can destroy the evil doers and you don't have to spend as much
• 35:58
  on military, right, so you can get everybody on the same page,
• 36:02
  all of society, and then they go after the outsiders and increase your powers,
• 36:07
  the one behind the whole process. And I think, you know,
• 36:12
  if you look at what they were doing as a massive drug trial, when
• 36:15
  it comes to you know, MK ultra, you start to see maybe the
• 36:22
  reason why everybody's on these drugs today is because they know what it does to
• 36:25
  people, and they know what it does long term, and the best pharmaceutical
• 36:29
  results they could get were these you know, unscrupulous doctors like Jolly and West
• 36:36
  who just basically went around dosing people whoever the government told them to. And
• 36:40
  you see him right next to us that what's that hippies name? He died
• 36:46
  recently, Charles Manson, right, And he's also close to the guy who
• 36:52
  shot what's his name? The guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah RFK and
• 36:59
  Jack Ruby too, yeah yeah, it's uh. Well. Then you also
• 37:06
  have like Operation Midnight Climax. You have one of the operations that was destroyed
• 37:15
  with the files that I was talking about earlier, was a was a speculatory
• 37:21
  and the theory at this point because there's not any proof or evidence of it
• 37:23
  because it was destroyed, which was called Project Spellbinder, which was a project
• 37:30
  in order to mind control someone like mk ultrim a, someone to assassinate people.
• 37:42
  And what the whole idea and the theory behind Project Spellbinder was to brainwash
• 37:50
  someone to assassinate Fidel Castro. That's what it was. It was not out
• 37:57
  of the realm of possibility that you know, violence is also a part of
• 38:01
  this, not only subservience and you know the agenda, but also violence and
• 38:10
  in some cases, like the theoretical projects spellbinder assassination as well. And that's
• 38:19
  sort of what our next documentary is going to involve as well. So I
• 38:25
  think one of the main goals of a good mind controled drug is to induce
• 38:32
  apathy, because with apathy you could start to reprogram the individual, right,
• 38:38
  so once you don't care so much about what it is you're doing, then
• 38:45
  it can be really easy to get you into that next phase of well,
• 38:47
  this is what you're doing. We're giving you this option. And one of
• 38:52
  the most prominent and recorded drugs in that regard is one called scopolamine, and
• 39:00
  that comes from this bort ahadow tree down in Colombia and South America, and
• 39:06
  it's used down there by drug gangs and prostitutes as a method of doping someone
• 39:15
  and then having them give over all of the information that they may need,
• 39:20
  all of the money. They've even had people empty out their entire apartments of
• 39:25
  all of their furniture so that this pimp in the prostitute can steal it.
• 39:30
  It's called devil's breath, and this devil's breath. Scapolamine is a common mind
• 39:36
  controlled drug down in South America. And it's really interesting because you know that
• 39:40
  that was part of the mk Ultra program, but they only talk about LSD
• 39:45
  because talking about scipolamine in some of these other quote unquote truth serums, because
• 39:52
  scipolamine is also used in truth serum to get the person to be more relaxed
• 39:58
  and able to be suggestible. Right. And so you've also got another truth
• 40:05
  serum that's called sodium pentathol, and that's commonly portrayed on you know, lots
• 40:12
  of different TV shows. They give somebody an injection, they put them into
• 40:15
  the polygraph test and then they start to get loopy and dopey and start to
• 40:20
  answer the questions a little bit more freely. But all of those were definitely
• 40:24
  tested in mk Ultra, and it's not just limited to LSD, which didn't
• 40:30
  have a high mind control quotient, but it did produce the type of hysteria
• 40:37
  that they would want to have a mass population sort of induced into so that
• 40:43
  they could, you know, come forward with the solutions. That's right,
• 40:47
  problem problem action, problem reaction solution, right, that's the thing that they
• 40:54
  always follow. So if you if you create the problem, you already know
• 41:00
  what the reaction is going to be because it can only be a handful of
• 41:04
  different things. So then you plan for all the different reactions and then based
• 41:08
  off of those reactions, you already have the solution, all right. So
• 41:14
  it's a plan on top of a plan on top of a plan, And
• 41:21
  there's a detailed way within the mk Ultra documents on how they break down the
• 41:28
  mind in order to insert the odds ideas and beliefs into people's eyes. Because
• 41:32
  it was originally done with a drug that was called BEZ. Now I can't
• 41:37
  pronounce the real title of what bez is because it's a really weird like quinsol
• 41:45
  diosa binzel late or something like that, really weird name the actual pharmaceutical name.
• 41:52
  But this substance was one hundred times more powerful than LSD and it was
• 41:59
  like in like a powdered like a white powdered form. It would essentially make
• 42:05
  people go out of their minds for long periods of time, like weeks and
• 42:10
  weeks and weeks at a time. And this was originally tested on military personnel
• 42:17
  to see if they could get these people then had top secret information or classified
• 42:23
  information, if they could remove the top secret classified information from the military personnel's
• 42:32
  had, so they wouldn't be able to reveal any of the military secrets,
• 42:38
  so they can go out and live a normal life after their military service was
• 42:44
  over. And once they figured that out, then they were like, okay,
• 42:49
  well, if we can remove memories and thoughts and ideas and top secret
• 42:54
  classified information from these military people's heads military personnel, can we insert ideas,
• 43:06
  thoughts, and beliefs into their head? Right, So pretty much what they
• 43:10
  would do is they would torture these subjects to a point to where they lose
• 43:17
  their They lose common sense and like critical thinking, so it kind of wipes
• 43:24
  their brain of like normal rational thoughts. And this torture doesn't have to be
• 43:32
  like horrendously torture. Is I think that people have a wrong idea of of
• 43:45
  like what torture can be. It doesn't have to be like physically brutal.
• 43:52
  It can be psychologically brutal, right, right. It can be to the
• 43:57
  point where, which is just an example, like you could be in a
• 44:00
  small encased room. They could come in and tell you you have to put
• 44:06
  your hands up on the wall and keep your hands on the wall with your
• 44:12
  feet spread apart for twenty four hours. You know what that's psychologically going to
• 44:19
  do to you. And if you fall, then they'll come in and taze
• 44:22
  you or whatever. Which is just an example, not seeing that that really
• 44:24
  happened, but it can be as something as simple as that, And the
• 44:29
  psychological torture of just having your hands constantly on the wall not being able to
• 44:36
  move or take your hands off the wall or move around is going to eventually
• 44:42
  break you down. And I think that people think that it's like a like
• 44:47
  a hardcore physical thing that they're going in and they're beating them and they're doing
• 44:51
  that creates too much resistance. See that they want to break down people psychologically
• 44:57
  because when you break them down their mental state down psychologically, that pretty much
• 45:01
  clears out the common sense, critical thinking, and rational thoughts. So then
• 45:06
  they can come in and reprogram your mind with something that may possibly be real,
• 45:14
  might not be real, in order to implant thoughts and ideas into your
• 45:17
  head according to the agenda that they want you to do. So then they
• 45:21
  would come in and after this, after they felt that they had been broken
• 45:25
  down enough psychologically they would come in. And this is the official version.
• 45:30
  They could have been doing this many different ways, but the official version of
• 45:35
  what psychic driving is as they would take any looped repeated audio message, something
• 45:43
  that's just on a recorder that would play twenty four to seven for weeks and
• 45:46
  days, and it could have had whatever on it. It could have been
• 45:54
  as simple as you're nothing, your garbage, you know, everyone hates you,
• 46:00
  or it could have been something way more nefarious, right, and nobody
• 46:06
  really knows what was on those looped audio messages, and that kind of gets
• 46:12
  tucked away in the subject's mind, like and then I'm thinking, well,
• 46:19
  if they could do that with like a recorder and like a just an audio
• 46:23
  message, could they have not a wheeled a freaking TV into the room and
• 46:30
  played the same thing and also gave them a visual and an audio psychic driving
• 46:37
  message. And then you can take that one step further. Could they have
• 46:40
  not have put something on the subject's head? Could they have not put some
• 46:45
  kind of goggles, some sort of VR technology on their head? And then
• 46:52
  after they've been tortured and drugged and then they dozed them with some sort of
• 46:59
  drug, put the VR simulation on their head. They're gonna believe it.
• 47:07
  They're gonna believe whatever was on whatever was on that looped audio message, whatever
• 47:13
  was on that TV screen, whatever was in those VR goggles. Well,
• 47:20
  what's to what they refer to over and over again in the MK Ultra documents
• 47:25
  is de patterning. So the D pattern that's the right. I was trying
• 47:30
  to think of what that was called, and then you're correct, that is
• 47:34
  what it's called, is de patterning. That's where they remove the common sense
• 47:37
  and credit. Thank you, I appreciate that, right, But that's sort
• 47:38
  of like the three step process. So this is why LSD was important is
• 47:44
  because it aided in the de patterning. So it sort of takes you outside
• 47:49
  of that normal sphere that you're comfortable thinking in. And then once you've got
• 47:54
  that that place outside of it, then you can start to input those new
• 47:59
  patterns that you want to see come about. And you know, it's funny,
• 48:04
  for so many years the government said the mk Ultra projects were a failure,
• 48:08
  and it's like, by what degree, by what metric are you calling
• 48:13
  them a failure? And that was never explained. You know, it was
• 48:15
  a success in showing that this is the way you do it. But maybe
• 48:20
  LSD wasn't the drug that they were using, because again scopolamine or devil's breath
• 48:25
  is right there, and they never talk about that in any mainstream sort of
• 48:29
  examination of the mk Ultra program or what could have come out of it.
• 48:34
  You know, yes, depatterning, drugging and then psyche driving. That's the
• 48:40
  way that that it was done, and it's all over the documents, just
• 48:45
  like you know what you said. And I think the the way to throw
• 48:52
  the public off is to say that there wasn't any results for it and that
• 48:58
  it didn't work because maybe it didn't work in the way that they wanted it
• 49:05
  to work. But then they just tweak it and turn it into it because
• 49:09
  normally whenever there's like an operation and the operation doesn't work out the way that
• 49:15
  they wanted it to work out, they have figured out the way not to
• 49:19
  do it right, so they can tweak it and adjust it, change the
• 49:25
  name of it, make it a different program, run it under a different
• 49:30
  name. But the testing phase of it was mk Ultra. The official mk
• 49:37
  Ultra program was the testing phase was then trying to figure out how it works,
• 49:45
  what they need to do, how they need to do it, and
• 49:47
  then it got disclosed in order for everyone to be like, oh, well,
• 49:54
  this was something that we did years and years and years ago, and
• 49:58
  we're no longer doing it anymore. Bullshit, bullshit, you're not doing anymore.
• 50:01
  I mean you can just look around you in the world and see that
• 50:06
  it's a what's going on, you know, And it's the exact same thing
• 50:13
  that happened with the Stargate project. They're removing Stargate projects that happened in nineteen
• 50:21
  seventy eight and ran until ninety five. They did the exact same thing.
• 50:28
  The CIA was supposed to take over the remote viewing program in ninety five.
• 50:35
  Then the CIA came out and canceled the program and said that no intelligence data
• 50:38
  had ever been collected from the program. Well that's bullshit too. Why would
• 50:42
  you keep a program operating for fifteen to eighteen years if you didn't yield any
• 50:47
  results. It's nonsense. You're not going to keep something running for that amount
• 50:52
  of time and be useless. I think it's important for people to know that
• 51:00
  the government has a different form of reproduction than human beings. They reproduce when
• 51:05
  it comes to policy. So as those policies start to come into effect,
• 51:10
  you get what's called fail forward. So what they'll do is they'll say publicly
• 51:15
  we failed, and then privately they'll throw all of their stuff over to a
• 51:19
  corporation that they've outsourced all of those duties to, and then they'll pick up
• 51:23
  there and then anything that that corporation of that government contractor is doing is now
• 51:29
  part of their corporate secrets, so they can keep that without any disclosure to
• 51:34
  the rest of the public. So it's this constant process of starting with something
• 51:38
  unethical, throwing it over to your business associates, letting those business associates take
• 51:45
  it from there and use the same protocols and policies to advance the agenda that
• 51:51
  was behind the whole project to begin with. That is a perfect example of
• 51:58
  what's going on and what continue to go on. I mean, that's the
• 52:00
  that's the way to do it. Because no private organization or government contractor is
• 52:06
  required to disclose any information about any testing, any program, anything that they
• 52:10
  that they've been doing. They're not because it's not a government it's not an
• 52:15
  official government program. It's being as an outsourced government program to private companies.
• 52:21
  So you got like s RI with the s R International with the remote viewing.
• 52:24
  A lot of those stuff was funded by the c i A, funded
• 52:29
  by the d i A, funded by the d O D and the Air
• 52:32
  Force at one point, you know, and you have like you know,
• 52:38
  raytheon, you got, you got what's the other one? Uh north of
• 52:47
  you got big a low aerospace. You have all these different uh private government
• 52:53
  contracting groups that are pretty much can considered the government at this point by how
• 53:01
  many programs and operations that has been outsourced to them. But again they're private
• 53:07
  companies, they're private organizations and nothing can Ever, they don't have to disclose
• 53:13
  any information. And that's the way that a lot of this stuff has been
• 53:16
  gotten away with is because the government starts at government discloses it says that there's
• 53:22
  nothing to it, nothing happened, that wasn't successful. Then it's exactly what
• 53:25
  you said. Then they just outsource it to these or they can do it
• 53:29
  to a different country, like in the case of mk Ultra, they outsourced
• 53:34
  all of the most of the mk ultra stuff to Canada, right which is
• 53:38
  outside the government's The United States governments grasp and very little from those mk Ultra
• 53:46
  programs from Canada has been disclosed, but most of them happened in like psychiatric
• 53:54
  facilities like state hospitals and prisons and stuff like that, where like electroshock therapy
• 54:05
  and like really torturous things were happening at mental hospitals, which then brings into
• 54:13
  a whole other topic and a whole other thing too, because you know,
• 54:16
  a lot of this stuff is being done on children as well, and that's
• 54:21
  a really important topic to get into. And there is a Netflix documentary I
• 54:28
  don't know if you've watched it, yeah, but it's called The Programs,
• 54:31
  cons Cults and Kidnapping. And this documentary is unbelievable. I had no idea
• 54:37
  that this was an actual thing, and I couldn't believe that it was actually
• 54:40
  on Netflix. It was like, holy crap. I was shocked, right
• 54:45
  well, behavioral modification schools, behavioral modification camps. There's actually another documentary that
• 54:52
  came out, I believe in twenty twenty that was called Hell Camp or maybe
• 54:55
  it's Camp Hell or something. And this whole thing started in this seventies in
• 55:00
  Utah where they would take these kids. They would abduct these kids in the
• 55:07
  middle of the night from their home. Their parents would pay this company in
• 55:12
  this organization to have these men show up in a blacked out suv come to
• 55:19
  these kids homes in the middle of the night, handcuffed, blindfold their kid,
• 55:27
  throw them in the back of an suv, either throw them on the
• 55:30
  plane or drive them if it's close enough to one of these behavioral modification schools
• 55:36
  to a behavioral modification camp, or like I was mentioning, the first one
• 55:40
  was in Utah and it was like a sixty day journey through the freaking wilderness
• 55:46
  where these kids would just be out hiking for sixty days. But the really
• 55:53
  nefarious ones are these behavioral modification schools where they're actually like they're not in the
• 56:05
  wilderness, they're not outside, They're in like a building. They're not allowed
• 56:10
  to leave the building. It's like a psychiatric facility for children for kids,
• 56:16
  and they would be beaten, they would be torture, they would be psychically
• 56:22
  driven. If people really need to watch this documentary, I did a show
• 56:24
  about this with Shane the Ruin or called the Academy programs. But that is
• 56:32
  going on, and it is still going on to this very day, still
• 56:37
  a thing that still happens. Paris Hilton was also involved in this. She
• 56:40
  was taken to a facility called Provo Canyon where she was tortured. You know,
• 56:45
  these are like these are mini mind control freaking facilities, that's what they
• 56:52
  are. And they have them repeating these phrases over and over again. Like
• 56:57
  it's unbelievable the footage that is in this documentary of abuse and torture that these
• 57:01
  children were going through. And they also had the parents brainwashed. They would
• 57:07
  they would do these meetings, like these monthly meetings. Dude, this is
• 57:12
  wild shit. They would do these monthly meetings with these parents that put their
• 57:16
  kids inside of these schools, and a lot of them were really expensive,
• 57:21
  like upwards of like thirty to forty thousand dollars a year to some of these
• 57:27
  behavioral modification schools. And they would have these meetings monthly where they would have
• 57:32
  these all these parents come and they would have them like dress up, like
• 57:37
  they would have men like dressed up in women's clothing and like all the dresses
• 57:43
  and like all this weird shit, and they were like doing like meditations and
• 57:46
  they were like all holding hands, like running around in a circle and shit,
• 57:52
  it's like a ritual, dude. It was the weirdest freaking thing that
• 57:55
  I've ever seen. So not only did they have the kids, the kids
• 57:59
  weren't able to tell their parents what they were going through in the tortuous conditions
• 58:05
  and like not being fed, being beaten, being you know, tortured,
• 58:09
  pretty much being mind controlled, being told to psychically driven by repeating phrases like
• 58:15
  hands up, hands down, hands the side, hands together, like over
• 58:17
  and over and over again for like hours. One lady on the documentary said
• 58:22
  that they would use the opening to A two thousand and one A Space Odyssey
• 58:27
  on repeat over and over and over again, which sound which is exactly what
• 58:31
  I just explained. Is what psychic driving was, is it looped the audio
• 58:36
  repeated message over and over again. And it's just unbelievable that this is even
• 58:44
  legal, that it's even legal to do. How can you do that?
• 58:47
  And the thing about these programs is a lot of them were completely unlegitimate because
• 58:52
  they they basically say that, and a lot of the kids weren't even that
• 58:57
  bad of children. They weren't. That's the whole The problem with these programs
• 59:02
  is that it's the parents thinking that their children are unruly and unbehave children when
• 59:10
  they're really not. The parents just don't want to deal with them, so
• 59:14
  they It's almost it's literally like a psychiatric facility, some of the insane asylums
• 59:21
  that were in the United States and the very beginning, because whenever those first
• 59:24
  opened up, you could take a family member, you could take your wife,
• 59:30
  you could take your child. You could just drop them off at this
• 59:32
  psychiatric insane asylum and they would admit them for nothing. You could just say,
• 59:37
  oh, my my wife isn't abaying my uh, she's not doing exactly
• 59:43
  what I want her to do, and they would take her and torture her,
• 59:46
  electric shocker, hydrotherapy her, do all this torturous stuff, maybe even
• 59:51
  lobotomizer to perform surgeries on her. For all her all the husband said is
• 59:58
  that she wouldn't take out the trash a couple of times. It's ridiculous stuff
• 1:00:04
  like that, right, And these kids are not bad kids, they're not
• 1:00:08
  that unruly, but they're put in this situation. Their kids pay this company
• 1:00:14
  to come and abduct them. They take them to this facility. They're not
• 1:00:16
  able to leave. They're being beaten, they're being mind controlled, and they
• 1:00:22
  say that they have to obey the program in order to graduate. So whenever
• 1:00:27
  you graduate the program, you get a diploma, high school diploma. But
• 1:00:30
  it turns out that the high school diplomas weren't even real r they weren't even
• 1:00:35
  real high school diplomas. They were fake high school diplomas. So everyone that
• 1:00:38
  went through this facility, that graduated at the age of seventeen or eighteen doesn't
• 1:00:43
  even have a freaking high school diploma. So they basically went through all that
• 1:00:45
  for nothing. They have to go and get their their ged. Well.
• 1:00:51
  I think it's important that it took part. It took place in Utah because
• 1:00:53
  Utah is the you know, alphabet agency playground. They love recruiting from Utah.
• 1:01:01
  They love having Mormons join up. I think most of the FBI are
• 1:01:05
  Mormons. A lot of the CIA are Mormons because a lot of what Mormonism
• 1:01:10
  is is keeping secrets and being able to keep secrets, and even the you
• 1:01:16
  hear a lot of Mormons on podcasts talking about how they would never reveal what
• 1:01:22
  they've actually done in these confessional sessions because then they get in trouble, right,
• 1:01:27
  But that teaches the children how to lie, and it teaches them how
• 1:01:30
  to cheat, and it teaches them how to get away with stuff in front
• 1:01:34
  of authorities when really you want to have an open dialogue and an open communication
• 1:01:37
  with your kids. But at that point there is no more open communication.
• 1:01:42
  It's only lies. And so you know, having that take place in Utah
• 1:01:45
  is a big giveaway. Who is behind it. Well, that's where the
• 1:01:50
  original process and the original foundation for what would later become behavioral modification schools,
• 1:01:59
  starting with the wilderness retreats, but it branched out into schools and they're located
• 1:02:07
  all over the United States, And in the early two thousands, is not
• 1:02:09
  just Utah. The one that the Netflix documentary that I'm talking about, the
• 1:02:15
  program cons cults and kidnapping, happened in upstate New York in a place called
• 1:02:21
  Ivy Ridge. So it's not just it's not just Utah. It's kind of
• 1:02:25
  like everywhere. But Utah is a big hub for it. Arizona is another
• 1:02:30
  big hub for it in New Mexico, so like that part of the sort
• 1:02:35
  of Midwest area. Yeah, four Corners is the is really the hub for
• 1:02:40
  a lot of these behavioral modification schools. And I mean Paris Holton I think
• 1:02:45
  went to the one in Utah. It became a school after it had become
• 1:02:51
  a wilderness retreat. So I mean, it's just wild, dude, it's
• 1:02:58
  wild what they're what. I mean, it's basically a human trafficking, That's
• 1:03:05
  what it is, right, And in some form or another, we've had
• 1:03:09
  institutionalized human trafficking in America since the very beginning. And you know, you
• 1:03:15
  don't really think about it like that, but that's really the case. You've
• 1:03:19
  got slavery going on. Then you've got which is interesting too, because the
• 1:03:23
  underground Railroad was a project by Northern troops. You know, it was a
• 1:03:30
  project by the government, and it was funded by the government, and that,
• 1:03:34
  you know, was also a human trafficking ring. And then you keep
• 1:03:37
  on going through the years and you find it over and over again. You've
• 1:03:39
  got these orphan trains going around at the turn of the century, a huge
• 1:03:45
  human trafficking coming directly over from Europe and then just taking these kids and plucking
• 1:03:51
  them out, you know, wherever people wanted to bid on them and buy
• 1:03:53
  these orphans quote unquote orphans. They weren't actually orphans, they had parents.
• 1:03:58
  They just bought the kids and shuttle them out to the American West, you
• 1:04:02
  know, and a lot of those kids, we never know what happened to
• 1:04:05
  them, and so this is just really an extension of that whole project.
• 1:04:11
  And what I think Jerry Marzinski was really important about his work is is there's
• 1:04:15
  no time limit on anything he's talking about. It's always been this way,
• 1:04:18
  you know, and having that as a clue and knowing other observant people,
• 1:04:24
  maybe psychopaths have been watching this for centuries. They kind of figure it out
• 1:04:29
  after a while, and they sort of keep those secrets to themselves and spread
• 1:04:32
  them amongst themselves, and then we get massive states, you know, working
• 1:04:38
  on the same principles. Yep, sorry, coffee and try to eat over
• 1:04:46
  sickness here the yeah, And Jerry Marzinski's work is really incredible. I mean,
• 1:04:51
  he's got them, he's got the data. He's talked to a lot
• 1:04:56
  of these schizophrenaly schizophrenic mentally ill patient as he sees these voices and that there's
• 1:05:02
  patterns to these schizophrenic people they talk about the same thing. The dialogue between
• 1:05:09
  the voices that they're hearing and their own voice is like almost identical. It's
• 1:05:13
  almost the same thing. So there's only there's only a few conclusions that you
• 1:05:16
  can really come to if you're seeing all these weird and strange patterns within each
• 1:05:21
  and every single person. They're different, different people, but all their experiences
• 1:05:27
  are typically the same. You know, it's always a negative voice. It's
• 1:05:33
  never positive. It's always telling them the harm themselves if they well, I
• 1:05:41
  think first it's, you know, harm someone else, and then if they
• 1:05:44
  can't harm somebody else, it's harm yourself. You know, Pluck your eye
• 1:05:47
  out of your head and we'll leave you alone. You know, cut your
• 1:05:50
  tongue out and we'll leave you. Those are just examples, not saying that
• 1:05:54
  those actually happen, but or cut yourself and we'll we'll stop, we'll stop
• 1:06:00
  messing with you. And then they just never do, you know, they
• 1:06:01
  just keep at you. And there's a lot of instances where the voices will
• 1:06:09
  be correct. It's really weird. It's really strange. Like there's instances where
• 1:06:15
  there were people that were told to run out into traffic and that they would
• 1:06:23
  be safe and that they would be protected, and then when I ran into
• 1:06:27
  traffic, got hit by a car, got up and just walked away unscathed.
• 1:06:33
  Right, weird, weird and crazy stuff, especially when it comes to
• 1:06:38
  meth because what you find is that a lot of meth heads have similar instances,
• 1:06:42
  similar experiences with shadow people. And you know, meth is normally considered
• 1:06:48
  a mind controlled drug, but any mind altering drug can be a mind control
• 1:06:53
  drug it's done in the right way. And so these shadow people, you
• 1:06:56
  know, I think it's related to the extreme sleep deprivation that goes on when
• 1:07:00
  it comes to meth. So you end up seeing these things that normally your
• 1:07:05
  mind filters out, and they all have similar experiences with them, Like these
• 1:07:11
  shadow people are just watching them and they can't figure out why, you know,
• 1:07:15
  they're having these experiences. They talk it over with other people who have
• 1:07:17
  done meth and they're like, yeah, I had those shadow people too.
• 1:07:20
  So it's really interesting how there is that crossover and something that seemingly metaphysical can
• 1:07:27
  manifest for multiple different people. Yeah. And then I mean there's been people
• 1:07:32
  with the like the gentleman that I was talking about that did the show with
• 1:07:36
  Jerry Margizen scheme. His name is Michael Dirk and which is on my show,
• 1:07:43
  and you want to check it out, it's on Reason by Jerons on
• 1:07:45
  YouTube. But he basically, you know, talks about how he would see
• 1:07:50
  full on people that weren't there, like full on human beings that nobody else
• 1:08:04
  can see, that we're interacting with him, that he was speaking with,
• 1:08:09
  that he thought was there, but wasn't there. It's wild And I think
• 1:08:14
  a lot of it does have to do with, uh, sleep deprivation,
• 1:08:16
  because methamphetamine is a common thing to the people do not sleep on because and
• 1:08:26
  the more that you don't sleep, the more your your body's your mind starts
• 1:08:32
  to go and you start to hallucinate things. Yeah, I think that that
• 1:08:39
  should be a common like a study and not not to like usemphetamine or methamphetamine
• 1:08:48
  for the study, but just to see how long someone can stay awake and
• 1:08:54
  what the effects are of that when when at what point do they start to
• 1:08:59
  loosen? At what point do they start to see things that aren't really there?
• 1:09:02
  And can they get back to normal when their their mind has been that
• 1:09:09
  far gone Because some people they that are on these types of drugs, they
• 1:09:14
  just don't come back like they're they're like perma burnt, perma burnt right,
• 1:09:19
  you know, permafried right. It really doesn't take too much too A lot
• 1:09:25
  of people think that, you know, these things can be something that you
• 1:09:29
  come back from, but if you look at the chemical potency of a lot
• 1:09:34
  of these mind control drugs, they do permanent harm to the brain. So
• 1:09:40
  and in the doses that the CIA used in the nk Ultra experiments had a
• 1:09:45
  lot of permanent effects on the people that they tested on, especially some of
• 1:09:49
  the people who you know, killed themselves because of it. But I think
• 1:09:54
  that was more of like a cover up operation. They knew that giving a
• 1:09:58
  certain amount to one of the members who might be going public would result in
• 1:10:03
  a plausible, plausibly deniable death. Yeah, you have those types of strange
• 1:10:12
  things all over the place. You have Sidney Gottlieb dosing some of the CIA
• 1:10:16
  personnel with unknowingly with LSD, one of them committed suicide. You also have
• 1:10:24
  the instance of James Forrest All, which was the Secretary of Defense. There's
• 1:10:31
  speculation and theory that maybe he was dosed with some sort of hallucinogenic as well,
• 1:10:39
  and then or he was murdered. And then there's also theories and thoughts
• 1:10:45
  of like an LSD aerosol, it can also be used in the same type
• 1:10:51
  of way, kind of like the Devil's breath thing that you're speaking about,
• 1:10:57
  that it could be done in a way that can be put through the ventilation
• 1:11:06
  system of a building or your house or or something like that to you know.
• 1:11:14
  And that's a big theory that I got with our our next film.
• 1:11:18
  So I don't want to give too much away on the aerosol aspect of this.
• 1:11:24
  But there has been a history, a really big history of people being
• 1:11:29
  dosed with these hallucinogenic drugs unknowingly, and that's a very scary thing. I
• 1:11:34
  mean, we have reports of all the time of like women going to bars
• 1:11:38
  and being dosed with weird freaking drugs and like you know, date rape drugs
• 1:11:43
  and all that and stuff like nowadays, you know, so and there's a
• 1:11:48
  long history of using these this and that would have to be the scariest thing
• 1:11:55
  that you could possibly go through. It. Like taking some hallucin genic drug
• 1:12:00
  recreationally and knowing that you take it is one thing, But unknowingly taking it
• 1:12:06
  right, that's gonna bug you out, dude, Like that's gonna, you
• 1:12:12
  know, get your brain pretty much a deep pattern right there, because you're
• 1:12:15
  not going to know what's going on. Like why am I experiencing this?
• 1:12:18
  I didn't knowingly take anything right. I've known a few people that's been dosed
• 1:12:24
  with lst unknowingly and it's been a really terrifying experience for them. Do they
• 1:12:30
  think that they're losing their mind right now? I'm not sure if inducing vomiting
• 1:12:36
  would be the thing to do, but I know that in a lot of
• 1:12:40
  cases they talk about activated charcoal as being a mitigation tool for when it comes
• 1:12:45
  to if you feel like something is changing, and it's very harmless. So
• 1:12:50
  if you carry around activated charcoal, if you've got, you know, a
• 1:12:56
  night out on the town, having some activated charcoal that you could take as
• 1:13:00
  soon as you're starting to feel weird, right, take two, you know,
• 1:13:04
  little pills, and then you're starting to mitigate some of that poison that's
• 1:13:09
  affecting your body. Activated charcoal is something to carry around without too much trouble.
• 1:13:15
  You know, they're like, why why would I need to carry around?
• 1:13:24
  Just the thought in the theory that someone would need to carry around activated
• 1:13:29
  charcoal dispersed being unknowingly drugged is alarming, right, Why would we Why would
• 1:13:41
  that ever be a thought? But that's the type of world that we live
• 1:13:43
  in. You know, it's strange terms, especially if you're in Columbia and
• 1:13:46
  a lot of people are running around with Devil's breath. You've got about twenty
• 1:13:50
  minutes to get out of there, or you are going to basically be a
• 1:13:55
  zombie, and you're going to be a zombie for about eight hours. If
• 1:13:58
  they get the dosage right, they get the dose that's wrong, you could
• 1:14:00
  die. So having that activated charcoal and having the ability to escape those precious
• 1:14:08
  moments after you start to feel weird before you start to go into a completely
• 1:14:13
  deep patterned state are the most critical. So you've got a very short time
• 1:14:17
  window, and if you're going to start mitigating that, I think have an
• 1:14:20
  activated charcoal. Even if somebody else is having an experience, having your own
• 1:14:26
  activated charcole would be preferable. I'm not sure about what other chemicals there are,
• 1:14:30
  but this is sort of like the catch all. If you want a
• 1:14:33
  good catch all, that's one way to go. And once you can start
• 1:14:36
  to you know, stay loocid. That's the key is to stay lucid in
• 1:14:42
  these situations because if you can't stay loocid, you're going to find out it's
• 1:14:45
  not going to go well for you. Noah, and some people can have
• 1:14:49
  a really that they're mentally strong and they're like psychically strong and they have a
• 1:14:56
  really good mental capacity. But just wrapping your brain around what's happening to you
• 1:15:00
  is probably the hardest thing, you know, because it's a scary process of
• 1:15:08
  not knowing exactly what's going on because you didn't knowingly take some kind of drug.
• 1:15:13
  Like, if you knowingly take a drug, you're expecting to feel some
• 1:15:16
  sort of way different than the way that you were previously feeling, so you
• 1:15:21
  know what's going to happen. But unknowingly getting dosed with a drug is a
• 1:15:27
  completely different story because in your mind saying well, where did this come from?
• 1:15:31
  Who did this? What is this? And it becomes a the patterning
• 1:15:38
  tactic to me because you know, you can't wrap your head around why and
• 1:15:45
  who did this? You know? Right? And not every drug affects people
• 1:15:51
  the same way, So having these different chemicals come into your body is not
• 1:15:58
  a given that you're going to have the same output. So a lot of
• 1:16:00
  these things can affect people in completely different ways and that they don't see coming,
• 1:16:03
  especially when it comes to allergies and things like that, which brings up
• 1:16:08
  what I think is the number one mind control drug, which is wheat.
• 1:16:12
  Right, we've got bread, which creates. You know, these gluten allergies,
• 1:16:16
  right, these gluten allergies are the result of massive swelling and inflammation and
• 1:16:23
  having an inflamed brain, you're not able to make decisions as well as you
• 1:16:28
  were before. And if you think about the history of humankind and the making
• 1:16:31
  of cities and clustering all these people together, that came about because of these
• 1:16:35
  grains that create a foggy perception of reality because you've sort of decided you're going
• 1:16:43
  to spend the rest of your life in this partially inflamed state. And once
• 1:16:46
  people get out of that inflame state, they're like, I can think clearly,
• 1:16:50
  so and what do we see associated with wheat is ergot. Ergot fungus
• 1:16:56
  is where we get LSD from. So it's interesting how all these sort of
• 1:17:00
  chemicals kind of have an interplay on the level of well, you know,
• 1:17:05
  we created wheat and we really likes what we've done with it, so it
• 1:17:11
  has it died out. It's it's sort of become domesticated, and it allows
• 1:17:15
  us to continue sort of harvesting it in the way that we do. It
• 1:17:17
  doesn't shut down, it doesn't have a you know, a huge reaction to
• 1:17:21
  the environment. That it's in. So it's like all of these things come
• 1:17:26
  together to create environments cities that allow people who want to centrally control things to
• 1:17:33
  do so. You know, so when Ergot poisoning also being responsible for apparently
• 1:17:42
  the Salem witch trials as well, and the whole idea of where we get
• 1:17:46
  the witches from in the first place is supposedly from which is well women,
• 1:18:00
  it's a theory and speculation. I don't think there's any proof for it,
• 1:18:02
  but I think it's just interesting that they would wipe the substance on, like
• 1:18:11
  on on a broom, and then they would get on the broom and then
• 1:18:15
  the substance would absorb into their skin, and it was a psychedelic substance.
• 1:18:20
  And uh, it's just an interesting theory of how which is the whole idea
• 1:18:28
  of a witch writing a broom came about? Was from a woldersnogenic substance being
• 1:18:32
  put on a broom and then them getting on the broom naked and absorbing into
• 1:18:38
  their skin. And that's where we get the whole idea of which is being
• 1:18:43
  on a broom. But er Got poisoning, for sure, that is a
• 1:18:46
  I'm pretty sure that that has been connected to the Salem witch trials and being
• 1:18:54
  a part of the reason why the women sail and we're executed because they were
• 1:19:02
  all tripping. They're all tripping balls, just like what you were mentioning earlier
• 1:19:06
  with these people that you know in biblical times and tripping balls du braying down
• 1:19:12
  these wild and wacky stories, right. And you've also got the Oracle at
• 1:19:17
  Delphi, where they've got this oracle sitting atop this volcanic crevice inside of a
• 1:19:24
  cave, you know, taking in these fumes and then relating visions of the
• 1:19:30
  future. Right, it's sort of like it's all tied into this sort of
• 1:19:33
  altered state of consciousness to be able to, you know, see beyond the
• 1:19:39
  physical world's physical reality, and in a lot of ways that that is a
• 1:19:44
  huge threat to the powers that be. I watched this movie last night called
• 1:19:48
  The Illusionist with Edward Norton, and in that movie, he's seen sort of
• 1:19:57
  bringing back the dead in these hollow that he's created, and in doing so,
• 1:20:04
  the people of this Austrian I think it's just Austria, they decide that
• 1:20:10
  they're going to follow him instead of following their king. So it's like the
• 1:20:14
  belief that this guy could contact the spirits made him a more central figure than
• 1:20:20
  the prince who was running that town. And so the idea there is that
• 1:20:25
  if you can start to show people a different way or some other vision of
• 1:20:30
  the future, you could kind of command their actions. And that kind of
• 1:20:35
  goes back to the Assassins or the Hashashin, which would be this group of
• 1:20:41
  people who use potent chemicals to drug these children into thinking that they're seeing the
• 1:20:47
  afterlife. And the afterlife that they set up was this massive play stage where
• 1:20:54
  they believed that they were in paradise and then they would drug them again,
• 1:20:58
  they would wake back up. These assassins as they're called, would become fearless,
• 1:21:04
  you know, murderers, so they didn't have any fear of death anymore.
• 1:21:10
  So they would go out there and kill anybody who this Assassin's guild wanted
• 1:21:15
  debt and the use of mind control chemicals in that regard is just amazing.
• 1:21:20
  I mean, like this guy figured it out. He had this whole beheading
• 1:21:26
  scenario where he promised he could bring this person back to life. So he
• 1:21:30
  set up this sort of magic trick where they could speak right, and so
• 1:21:34
  he would have his troops come in there and show them that he had this
• 1:21:39
  person's head on a platter and it was speaking, and that after it was
• 1:21:43
  over with, he would actually behead the person to show that, yeah,
• 1:21:47
  look this head was really a real person's head and it was really talking to
• 1:21:51
  you. And you know, the unfortunate victim would be just a prop in
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  this whole sort of magic trick to it. All of the troops on board
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  with what he was doing, and they would just kidnap these orphans from all
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  over the Middle East and turn them into the perfect assassins. And this was
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  in the thirteen hundreds. Unbelievable. That's wild, tricking people in the believing
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  in the afterlife, under the under a hallucinogeny drug to turn them into assassins
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  because they know for sure that the afterlife exists. M that's wild. That's
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  wild. See, all these things can there's no telling what they've done and
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  how they've how they've done it because the mind is such a fragile thing and
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  the way that they can, the techniques and the things that they may have
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  done will never really know. But that is very that is very interesting,
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  right this kingdom. I think you've heard of Shambalah. Right, So these
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  are the halls of Chambala, and you know, that's what they were talking
• 1:23:02
  about, is like this is the afterlife, this is this great place.
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  And it was a very small kingdom, the Hashashian Empire, and they sort
• 1:23:13
  of had a love hate relationship with the Templars and so this is actually before
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  thirteen hundred, but like they dominated the region because everybody was scared to death
• 1:23:24
  of this guy's abilities, right, And so it's the fear that really creeps
• 1:23:30
  into other people's minds once they start to see these things happen, then the
• 1:23:33
  fear sort of takes over and leads the way from there. And all we've
• 1:23:36
  seen since COVID basically is one fear tactic after another. It's just constantly trying
• 1:23:45
  to get people in this fear state so that you can lead them better in
• 1:23:47
  the direction that you want them to go. Well, you have other techniques
• 1:23:53
  that have been done as well, you know you have, especially when it
• 1:23:58
  comes to these UFO call its like you have to make yourself be perceived as
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  something bigger than what you are, and that and that you're better than everyone
• 1:24:06
  else and that you're the only person that can do this that you're the prophet,
• 1:24:11
  that you're the Messiah, that you're the reincarnation of this famous historical figure.
• 1:24:16
  They're all famous reincarnations of historical figures. They all claim that they're the
• 1:24:23
  only ones that can disseminate this knowledge to the people. They're the only ones
• 1:24:28
  that are in communication with Ashtar thirty three, Galactic Federation of Planets, the
• 1:24:35
  Great White Brotherhood, Afreaking Avians. You know, it's they have to put
• 1:24:43
  themselves on a big pedestal, and that is a common theme with any cult.
• 1:24:49
  The Williams some of in contact with Williams, Robin Williams. You got
• 1:24:58
  to be in contact with Robin Williams. He's got to be a part of
• 1:25:00
  the Galactic Federation and assist you in your healings for one hundred and twenty two
• 1:25:06
  dollars through Zoom, and he's got to appear to you in your in your
• 1:25:12
  bedroom at night. That's a real thing, having the Love as one cult
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  with Amy Carlson, And that's the common thing with anybody that is perceived to
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  And it's so interesting too, because those types of people seem to be the
• 1:25:38
  most popular people for some reason, and it's so strange, like it's the
• 1:25:43
  ones that are that profess to have something that nobody else has. You know,
• 1:25:50
  it's not like somebody like me that is just looking at research and digging
• 1:25:58
  into things and trying to figure out like truths and you know that does real
• 1:26:04
  work. You know, it's the people that profess to know something that you
• 1:26:14
  don't know, and instead of telling you that, they keep that information to
• 1:26:21
  themselves when the information is completely one made up information, it's not real.
• 1:26:27
  But that attracts an audience, right, that attracts intrigue. You know,
• 1:26:33
  people don't want to listen to hardcore factual information, which really bewoters me,
• 1:26:43
  doesn't make any sense to me at all. Like I would much rather listen
• 1:26:47
  to someone that is critical, common sense, has good information, accurate information,
• 1:26:57
  trustworthy information. Then I would rather listen into somebody that has that is
• 1:27:02
  seen that they are the only one that has this information. They know what's
• 1:27:05
  going to happen. They have all these wild and wacky predictions for twenty years
• 1:27:11
  in the freaking future or next month or next year or any of the stuff.
• 1:27:15
  And it's a newsflash because it's the same thing that happens every single time.
• 1:27:18
  It never happens none of it ever happens, but people keep falling for
• 1:27:23
  the same nonsense over and over and over again. And these people on mass
• 1:27:27
  are really really big following of people they do. They get thousands and thousands
• 1:27:32
  of views, like hundreds of thousands of subscribers, like everything they post just
• 1:27:38
  completely goes viral. It's unbelievable. I don't understand it. I really don't
• 1:27:43
  get it, and I think I get I got a good explanation for you.
• 1:27:45
  So let's say that most of the people following them have had something unexplainable
• 1:27:51
  happen in their own lives, and so the very first thing that they think
• 1:27:57
  is that since this was unexplainable and it happened to me, there must be
• 1:28:00
  more completely unexplainable things happening that I can sort of gravitate to now. Instead
• 1:28:08
  of coming back and saying, how do I break this down rationally? Put
• 1:28:12
  the things I do understand in certain containers, put the things I don't understand
• 1:28:15
  in other containers, and then try to walk through the steps to get to
• 1:28:19
  this greater understanding of truth. Instead of doing that, they go, well,
• 1:28:25
  I've got to look for somebody who's got the maximum amount of unknowable stuff
• 1:28:32
  that's going on, and so it's almost like a traumatization through inexplicable circumstances.
• 1:28:43
  That's yeah, like almost like a trauma bond. That's exactly what it seems
• 1:28:47
  like. And people love the unknown, and that's why I'm convinced that people
• 1:28:53
  really don't want the answers, and that's why content like mine I have to
• 1:28:59
  work one hundred times harder than other people, because really people they don't want
• 1:29:04
  the truth. They don't want ration. They don't because there's already enough problems
• 1:29:11
  in their life as it is, right. They want the unexplainable. They
• 1:29:16
  want the fairytale nonsense because it takes them away from their normal, everyday,
• 1:29:27
  mundane life, you know, and turns it. Because that Netflix docuseries that
• 1:29:33
  I had Clyde Lewis on that he was on episode seven with the Blobs of
• 1:29:41
  the Blobs of Washington State. He was in episode seven of that. He
• 1:29:45
  was like the main person of that whole episode. Every one of those episodes
• 1:29:48
  were like weird, supernatural, strange, mystery things and they're unexplained, right,
• 1:29:58
  I Mean, there's rational thought and rational people inside of them that has
• 1:30:03
  their opinions. But at the end of every one of them. They're like,
• 1:30:06
  oh, it's we still don't really know what happened in this scenario,
• 1:30:12
  and it's the most watched Netflix document docuseries of all time. People want that
• 1:30:17
  stuff and it's the frontier, and I think that's great. I mean,
• 1:30:23
  that's what's always driven people, is where the frontier is. And we're at
• 1:30:26
  the frontier now where we have to start looking at the unexplainable stuff because there's
• 1:30:32
  no more continence for us to divisit, at least that we know of.
• 1:30:35
  So, you know, there's the front tier is basically the mind and what's
• 1:30:41
  unknowable all around us, you know. I mean there's been this big push
• 1:30:46
  for WU things all the time. You know, it's it's and WU is
• 1:30:54
  really popular right now. It's popular then, it's than it's ever been.
• 1:31:00
  And I think that that is in due part two religion as well, and
• 1:31:05
  people not wanting to believe that this is the only thing that we have,
• 1:31:11
  that life has no meaning, that we're just here floating in space, that
• 1:31:16
  we're just a rock in the middle of nowhere and life has no meaning and
• 1:31:21
  life has no purpose. You know, they would rather take you know,
• 1:31:29
  the extraterrestrials. The universe is so populated that there's these other civilizations and these
• 1:31:34
  glanky civilizations running around on spaceships. There's life elsewhere on the planet, even
• 1:31:40
  though there's no evidence and no proof of it. They would rather take that
• 1:31:43
  than the example of us being alone. And I think that in my personal
• 1:31:47
  view, us being alone is a way more fascinating thought and a way more
• 1:31:56
  fascinating idea, like why why would we be alone? What is this?
• 1:32:01
  You know? What? What are we doing here? Is just a simulation?
• 1:32:05
  You know, I think there's way more questions and way more things to
• 1:32:11
  ask if we are the only living things in the universe, If we are
• 1:32:15
  the only physical incarnation on the only planet that is inhabited by human like beings,
• 1:32:26
  right, well, there's a way more fascinating than we're just a you
• 1:32:31
  know, a little blimp on the radar of the entire universe that there's thousands
• 1:32:38
  and thousands of other planets. Because that doesn't make us special, That doesn't
• 1:32:41
  make us special at all. It actually makes us more special if we are
• 1:32:45
  the only living beings in the universe, right, I would mean are very
• 1:32:53
  important? Well, I think it's it's interesting how the narrative flipped on the
• 1:33:00
  UFO disclosure thing. I mean, we see them sort of going from,
• 1:33:06
  well, we've got these what do they call them? This non human intelligences?
• 1:33:12
  Right? What does that mean? Like we've got all these new abstractions
• 1:33:15
  that they've sort of jumped to instead of talking about their involvement in all of
• 1:33:21
  these other cases. Now, what you've been doing is showing people, yes,
• 1:33:25
  there's government involvement in all of these cases, that should cause you to
• 1:33:30
  question the validity of all of it. But instead they sort of had to
• 1:33:35
  jump to other sort of new abstractions to kind of keep people on that same
• 1:33:42
  level of thinking that maybe it was something else, like non human intelligence is
• 1:33:46
  not a computer? Is a computer a non human intelligence? Could I use
• 1:33:49
  AI in this process and then say I've been in contact with the non human
• 1:33:54
  intelligence? That's right. All these words have multiple meanings in multiple things.
• 1:33:59
  In the public said it means one thing, and the people that are listening
• 1:34:01
  to think is that it means one thing, and then what they're actually meaning
• 1:34:04
  is something completely different. And that's been the game from the very beginning.
• 1:34:10
  Like a lot of these buzzwords and a lot of the things that people talk
• 1:34:14
  about have ulterior and multiple meanings and what you think that it means isn't the
• 1:34:20
  correct meaning from my personal not you, but you know people within the community,
• 1:34:28
  right, like you got crash retrieval. Crash retrieval's a big buzz where
• 1:34:30
  the floats around the community a lot, and people are like, oh,
• 1:34:33
  well, crash retrieval means that it was something that was that was visible.
• 1:34:36
  They saw it fall out of the sky, They saw it on radar,
• 1:34:39
  and they called the the military. The military wind and excavated and found it,
• 1:34:44
  and they took it back to the freaking lab, the deep underground military
• 1:34:47
  basis, and then reverse engineered it and turned it into their own technology.
• 1:34:50
  Well, that doesn't have to be the case. One, It doesn't have
• 1:34:53
  to have happened in modern times. It could have happened hundreds of years ago,
• 1:34:59
  could happen thousands of years ago. The craft could have been dug up
• 1:35:01
  in an archaeological dig in modern times, but it could have been there for
• 1:35:06
  thousands of freaking years. Right. Alien invasion. Right, you go to
• 1:35:11
  a different country, you're an alien. You're not from that country. You're
• 1:35:15
  an alien there, you're just visiting. You're an alien. Right, you
• 1:35:19
  just put freaking illegal in front of alien, and you have a completely different
• 1:35:26
  term of what an alien means. Right, Everyone's like, oh, well,
• 1:35:30
  you know aliens are all around us, they've always been here. You
• 1:35:36
  know, they're creating alien human hybrids. Well, when you just tack on
• 1:35:43
  illegal in front of alien, it makes a lot more sense. Okay,
• 1:35:47
  they are everywhere, they are here, they've always been here, and they
• 1:35:51
  are making hybrids. Right. I think it's so funny that people don't think
• 1:36:01
  of words like brushstrokes. Right. So if we're gonna, if we're gonna
• 1:36:05
  take these abstractions, what we should do is think of them like a brush
• 1:36:10
  joke on a painting. And if you have absolutely no idea why that brush
• 1:36:14
  joke is right there on that painting in the place that it is, maybe
• 1:36:18
  it's time to look at it differently because it definitely means something to somebody.
• 1:36:24
  And once you can have access to that meaning, you can kind of get
• 1:36:27
  away from some of the confusion that it produces. You know, Well,
• 1:36:31
  then you have like national security threat. Right. That's something that the UFO
• 1:36:36
  community, especially the big proprietors of disclosure, talk about, is that this
• 1:36:45
  is a national security threat. Every time they have a panel or a governmental
• 1:36:48
  organization, it's always, ah, these things are repeeding our airspace. They're
• 1:36:54
  just all over military airspace. They're they're they're traveling with impunity and like all
• 1:36:59
  this stuff. Well, if you look at what national security threat actually means,
• 1:37:08
  a national security threat is another country threatening our country or the citizens of
• 1:37:17
  a country threatening the country itself, right, the government, Yeah, that's
• 1:37:25
  what a national security threat means. So it makes more sense to me that
• 1:37:29
  a national security threat would be that this is our technology, it's our military
• 1:37:36
  drones, it's our military craft, and if another country finds out that it's
• 1:37:41
  our craft, then they and they figure that out and they're like, this
• 1:37:46
  isn't really unidentified flying out, this isn't really UAPs, it's your guys' craft.
• 1:37:53
  Then we get exposed. And then if that other country gets a hold
• 1:37:57
  of that advanced military technology and they do it too, then that's the national
• 1:38:02
  security threat. Right, Not because extraterrestrials are flying around in American airspace or
• 1:38:11
  unauthorized airspace. It's because if another country finds out that it's our technology,
• 1:38:15
  then we're screwed. That's what they mean by national security threat. But it's
• 1:38:21
  been hit under the guys of ufology and hit under the guise of the community.
• 1:38:28
  And when people would hear national security threat under the context of UFOs and
• 1:38:35
  UAPs, they automatically assume that it's extra tresh true. Right, Well,
• 1:38:43
  that goes straight back into the MK ultra. You know, we can't reveal
• 1:38:45
  our own crimes because that would be a threat to national security. That would
• 1:38:49
  be a threat to us the people who committed the crimes exactly. So I
• 1:38:55
  think this has been a great episode. I love talking my control with you,
• 1:39:00
  but to tell people where they can find your documentaries and tell them what's
• 1:39:02
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• 1:39:08
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• 1:39:36
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  x at raised by Giants eight. Thanks for having me on. Brother,
• 1:39:45
  really appreciate it. Is a great conversation, absolutely absolutely wonderful. I can't
• 1:39:48
  wait for your new documentary to come out about all this sort of stuff.
• 1:39:54
  So it's been great having you on. Thanks for joining us, everybody.
• 1:39:56
  I'll see you again next time.