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- 0:04Speaker 1: Oh, how to catch a cheater? You know the other
- 0:07Speaker 1: day we were talking about how to spot a serial killer.
- 0:10Speaker 1: It was all to do with their ears a lower. Actually,
- 0:13Speaker 1: have a listen. You ever run across somebody that their
- 0:17Speaker 1: ears are lower than their eyes, Run get away from
- 0:24Speaker 1: that person.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Go look at every serial killer you've ever seen. Look
- 0:28Speaker 2: at their eyes and their ears. They're low. Their ears
- 0:31Speaker 2: are lower than their eyes.
- 0:33Speaker 1: But how do you catch a cheat? I I don't believe.
- 0:36Speaker 3: I mean, I don't believe this ear thing. I think
- 0:38Speaker 3: I don't believe the well not really, but I do
- 0:40Speaker 3: believe a private investigator all the signs they would have
- 0:44Speaker 3: seen of cheaters. Yeah, this is legit.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Well, we're about to get David from Lipstick Investigations on now. Bunkie,
- 0:50Speaker 1: you've told two stories today. One was KFC you caught
- 0:54Speaker 1: the guide cheating. The other one was it a good
- 0:57Speaker 1: Melbourne Cup event. You've got a had one. Before we
- 1:00Speaker 1: get on David from Lipstick Investigations.
- 1:04Speaker 4: What about he had about fifteen conversations going on Facebook
- 1:08Speaker 4: with other women.
- 1:10Speaker 1: That's a sign it's no good. I know I might
- 1:12Speaker 1: have been organizing some surprise stuff for fifty different things.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Georgie.
- 1:17Speaker 2: It was great. Yeah, okay, great.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Here is David from Lipstick Investigations.
- 1:21Speaker 3: Good morning David, David, Good morning guy, Thanks for coming on.
- 1:26Speaker 1: People come to you. So I'm guessing a lot of
- 1:28Speaker 1: women or men as well.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Well, well, I'm fifty fifty fifty.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Fifty, and what's your strike rates for finding people.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Well for finding infidelity once they've got to We're a
- 1:39Speaker 2: last resort, So people have done their own little bits
- 1:42Speaker 2: and pieces beforehand, and if they get stuck, leen up
- 1:44Speaker 2: with a private investigator. But I would say that probably
- 1:47Speaker 2: eighty percent of people that come to us with a
- 1:48Speaker 2: suspicion that's proven right.
- 1:51Speaker 4: That actually makes me sad. Yeah, I feel like do
- 1:54Speaker 4: you feel that when people come to you, when they're
- 1:56Speaker 4: pushed to the point of getting it to a PI?
- 1:57Speaker 1: David?
- 1:58Speaker 4: In some scenarios, is it because there's a lot of
- 2:01Speaker 4: money involved with divorces and if they can prove that
- 2:05Speaker 4: said person is cheating, they can get out of a
- 2:08Speaker 4: marriage or they can get out of a prenup. Author
- 2:10Speaker 4: you know, do you find a lot of it is transactional?
- 2:13Speaker 2: Look, it is nowadays because you know, anyone that owns
- 2:15Speaker 2: a house in Sydney or Melbourne is a millionaire. So
- 2:17Speaker 2: at the end of the day, there's a lot of assets,
- 2:19Speaker 2: there's a lot of money at state. So while the
- 2:21Speaker 2: courts don't really care about infidelity, the courts care about
- 2:24Speaker 2: getting lied to, and clients also want so to show
- 2:29Speaker 2: to their family. Like there's a lot of different cultures
- 2:31Speaker 2: in Australia and some need to prove that it's happening
- 2:34Speaker 2: before they can move on. As far as the family's concerned.
- 2:37Speaker 1: What's the most common industry? So if you're dating someone
- 2:40Speaker 1: and they work in whatever industry, what's the most common
- 2:44Speaker 1: industry for people to be playing up?
- 2:46Speaker 2: Well, that's an interesting one. I would say it's hard
- 2:49Speaker 2: to pinpoint that. As far as cheater is a concerned.
- 2:51Speaker 2: One of the things is you need availability if you're cheating, right,
- 2:54Speaker 2: So you've got to be able to get out. So
- 2:56Speaker 2: maybe business owners as a common trait because they're in charge,
- 2:59Speaker 2: they can go out and have they want to do
- 3:00Speaker 2: whatever they want without having to get asked questions. But
- 3:03Speaker 2: over for thirty years, I've been doing this as the
- 3:06Speaker 2: word builders comes up a lot, It's amazing how many
- 3:09Speaker 2: billies yes, and don't ask me why. I can't give
- 3:11Speaker 2: you any science to that space.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Trades are the same. It's like, oh, yeah, I've got
- 3:16Speaker 3: to go early, I'll be home late.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Really know, I'm on site, that kind of thing.
- 3:21Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, they can explain easily that that
- 3:24Speaker 2: they're not there, they're busy somewhere else whereas they may
- 3:27Speaker 2: not be.
- 3:28Speaker 4: I'm looking at it from a female point of view
- 3:30Speaker 4: that I'd be heartbroken. Have you ever had scenario, Dave,
- 3:33Speaker 4: where the photos that you've got are absolutely going to
- 3:35Speaker 4: break someone, like really, you know, and you know this
- 3:38Speaker 4: Barston is going to be devastated. You've got to sit
- 3:40Speaker 4: there in the car and pull out, like the envelopes
- 3:43Speaker 4: in those movies, these photos and go, I'm sorry, David.
- 3:47Speaker 2: It was a bit like that. Yeah, it was like
- 3:49Speaker 2: that in the old days for sure. Fine, right, well,
- 3:53Speaker 2: Pine email, We've just delivered everything by email, so you know,
- 3:57Speaker 2: the personal aspect of it, from the face to face
- 3:59Speaker 2: is not so common now theyir back in the old days.
- 4:02Speaker 2: I get plenty, plenty of years that we've just became
- 4:04Speaker 2: one of the part of the job.
- 4:07Speaker 3: You think they'd be a bit of relief though, Like
- 4:08Speaker 3: if someone is sus and then you get them the
- 4:11Speaker 3: evidence and the proof that go okay, I'm not crazy.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I knew it. Yeah, because like that, David, that is
- 4:18Speaker 2: more common. That is more for what it's about. They
- 4:21Speaker 2: need something said, as I say to themselves, see I'm
- 4:23Speaker 2: not crazy. This is you. You've done this, and now
- 4:26Speaker 2: I have the proof so they can move on with
- 4:28Speaker 2: their lives.
- 4:29Speaker 1: What is it you're looking for? What has the proof
- 4:31Speaker 1: got to be? Is it p and dev What evidence
- 4:35Speaker 1: are we looking for here?
- 4:38Speaker 2: Very comclient to client, some have some have expectations that
- 4:41Speaker 2: often we can't meet because you know, if it doesn't
- 4:44Speaker 2: happen in front of us. See, we've got to work
- 4:46Speaker 2: within laws. So we can't go and put video cameras
- 4:49Speaker 2: in hotel rooms and that sort of thing.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Example, if I said, I think my girlfriend's playing up,
- 4:55Speaker 1: what would most clients be happy with a photo of
- 4:58Speaker 1: her with another man or a photo of her walking
- 5:00Speaker 1: into a hotel or what?
- 5:01Speaker 4: What?
- 5:01Speaker 1: What would you give?
- 5:03Speaker 2: That's that's that's realistic. You know there were times that
- 5:08Speaker 2: they'll meet and you know, we've got people busted in
- 5:10Speaker 2: cars and you know, because it's a place to meet,
- 5:13Speaker 2: isn't it. There was one thing at the Amark car
- 5:15Speaker 2: park in Blacktown there, you know it was we just
- 5:19Speaker 2: started up beside them in the next car, and you know,
- 5:22Speaker 2: the imagery coming back was as good as you'll get
- 5:24Speaker 2: any time. But that's not very.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Common, right, nothing in car parks of KFC's. What's the
- 5:33Speaker 4: longest you've had to do a stakeout and you've had
- 5:36Speaker 4: to sit there eating whoppers in the car and so
- 5:40Speaker 4: to speak before you well, anyone came out and did anything?
- 5:44Speaker 2: Well some there. Sometimes you get information, right, they want
- 5:48Speaker 2: you to start follow this sit here and their report movement.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Well sometimes they don't know that the person we're watching
- 5:54Speaker 2: isn't even there. So you can watch an empty house today,
- 5:58Speaker 2: you know the lot. The longest stint I remember an
- 6:02Speaker 2: agent doing was about twenty seven hours straight.
- 6:05Speaker 4: That is intense. Can I ask something because technology? My
- 6:08Speaker 4: girlfriend who was pregnant, This is a really sad story
- 6:11Speaker 4: with pregnant with a baby. She suspected that her partner,
- 6:14Speaker 4: who gynecologists to four people, was cheating and he was
- 6:18Speaker 4: gaslighting her, like, what are you talking about, You're crazy,
- 6:20Speaker 4: I'm not cheating. She left her Apple Watch under the
- 6:24Speaker 4: seat of his car with the fine my Apple watch,
- 6:29Speaker 4: and he drove he said he was going to work.
- 6:31Speaker 4: He drove straight to this girl's he was having an
- 6:34Speaker 4: affair with, and basically she just followed with the Apple
- 6:37Speaker 4: Watch went well, that's not the hospital and there's no
- 6:40Speaker 4: babies being born in Apple Street.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Would you be using a lot of technology these days, David, Well.
- 6:46Speaker 2: The problem is we legally can't as probe investigators, but
- 6:49Speaker 2: we have a work within the laws. Our clients have
- 6:51Speaker 2: usually done all that prior, and this is why we're
- 6:53Speaker 2: the last resort. The savory'd done all that and when
- 6:57Speaker 2: they can't get what they need or they might come
- 6:58Speaker 2: to in so to say, like I've got this information
- 7:01Speaker 2: that he regularly goes to this address, can you just
- 7:03Speaker 2: wait outside there and normally happens on a Tuesday and Wednesday,
- 7:06Speaker 2: and then we get the visual aspect of it, because
- 7:07Speaker 2: the watch doesn't do that.
- 7:09Speaker 4: Gives a whole meaning to tide us tuesdays.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Final question, Man, anyone listening right now Friday morning, driving
- 7:16Speaker 1: to work, looking forward to a weekend with their partner,
- 7:19Speaker 1: what's one thing we can spot to know someone's playing
- 7:22Speaker 1: up in your experience? What's a little sign that your
- 7:25Speaker 1: partner is doing the dirty on you?
- 7:28Speaker 2: I would say the main one is the appearance you
- 7:30Speaker 2: get back to the gym, you're taking more care and
- 7:32Speaker 2: here you look nicer clothes, make up girls and underwear men,
- 7:38Speaker 2: and cologne shaving. So just generally the appearance aspect of
- 7:42Speaker 2: things is the main thing. But you've also got to
- 7:44Speaker 2: have availability, you've got to have the time to do
- 7:46Speaker 2: it right.
- 7:47Speaker 3: So if you're still looking like a slob in your
- 7:50Speaker 3: relationship and I.
- 7:51Speaker 4: Know it's good, Yeah, as soon as they start ordering
- 7:54Speaker 4: the week over heat, it's.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Time to run. Well, it's not for everybody, but that's
- 7:57Speaker 2: a general rule.
- 7:58Speaker 1: I love it. Hey, good on your mate.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Now.
- 8:00Speaker 1: If you're in the market for a private investigator. If
- 8:02Speaker 1: we've just ruined your weekend there and you think they're
- 8:04Speaker 1: playing up, check out David at Lipstickinvestigations dot com dot A.
- 8:08Speaker 1: You good on your day, Thanks, thank you,