Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Trump meeting with Mamdani AGAIN, will the 'lovefest' last
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- 0:00Speaker 1: President Trump today scheduled to meet with New York City
- 0:04Speaker 1: Mayor Zoran Mamdani. The meeting will take place at Gracie Mansion,
- 0:08Speaker 1: and it will be the first time the two are
- 0:10Speaker 1: meeting at the mayor's official residence. Trump and Mamdani have
- 0:14Speaker 1: met twice before at the White House, and despite public
- 0:16Speaker 1: jabs at one another, they've maintained an oddly cordial relationship.
- 0:21Speaker 1: A spokesperson for the mayor said this meeting will, quote,
- 0:24Speaker 1: focus on issues affecting New York City and New Yorkers.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Infrastructure could be one of the topics since Mamdani has
- 0:30Speaker 1: previously pitched a project to the president to build thousands
- 0:34Speaker 1: of apartments over the trains at Sunnyside Yard, which would
- 0:37Speaker 1: require billions of dollars. in federal grants. So let's bring
- 0:41Speaker 1: in MSNOW senior White House reporter, Vaughn Hilliard. Vaughn, not
- 0:46Speaker 1: in the White House, obviously, at the moment because you
- 0:48Speaker 1: can't be there, but thanks for being with us outside
- 0:51Speaker 1: the White House. What are you expecting from this meeting
- 0:53Speaker 1: with Mamdani? It's kind of odd how well Mamdani seems
- 0:57Speaker 1: to get Donald Trump. Go for the builder in the president,
- 1:00Speaker 1: and you seem to be able to get a good
- 1:01Speaker 1: relationship with him.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:04Speaker 3: He's somebody that has somehow found his way in that
- 1:07Speaker 3: relationship in which Donald Trump expects overtures to be sought,
- 1:14Speaker 3: and in return to curry some favor by essentially giving
- 1:19Speaker 3: him some sort of head nod to ways in which
- 1:23Speaker 3: they can cooperate together in an environment in which the
- 1:26Speaker 3: president does just about everything but cooperate with anybody that
- 1:30Speaker 3: attempts to politically undermine him. And so this meeting, by coming,
- 1:33Speaker 3: going directly to Zohra Mamdani, of course, it's significant for
- 1:36Speaker 3: the New York City mayor, who has effectively made the
- 1:39Speaker 3: pitch over the course of the last year that he
- 1:41Speaker 3: can actually bring results as a democratic socialist to the
- 1:45Speaker 3: front lines of his residence. But this is, of course, also, Cady,
- 1:49Speaker 3: going to be the first meeting of his trip to
- 1:51Speaker 3: New York City, where he is set to meet with
- 1:53Speaker 3: multiple foreign leaders here at the U.N. General Assembly.
- 1:58Speaker 2: We should note that also, right, at least for now,
- 2:00Speaker 2: not clear where we're going to look at this meeting
- 2:02Speaker 2: because the travel pool, the network pool for the trip, CNN, CNN,
- 2:06Speaker 2: like us here at MSNOW, currently banned from the White House.
- 2:10Speaker 2: The two networks plus Politico, the other subject of the
- 2:13Speaker 2: recipient of the ban, filed a lawsuit this morning to
- 2:16Speaker 2: change that. We will see how it's covered later today. MSNOW,
- 2:18Speaker 2: senior White House reporter Vaughn Hilliard.
- 2:20Speaker 4: Vaughn.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And Maldoni certainly has gotten the
- 2:23Speaker 2: best of Trump so far, at least in the PR
- 2:26Speaker 2: meeting game of their earlier meetings. We'll see how today goes. Ben,
- 2:31Speaker 2: I want to turn to your new piece at 7.4
- 2:32Speaker 2: about a school in France that's refocusing on security amid
- 2:36Speaker 2: Russia's testing NATO limits and threats to draw down American
- 2:40Speaker 2: troops in Europe. And the context here is so important.
- 2:45Speaker 2: We have seen Russia There's many belief that in the
- 2:48Speaker 2: next year or two may make a lunge, whether it's
- 2:50Speaker 2: in a Baltic state or something else in Europe. But
- 2:53Speaker 2: already they're ramping up these sort of hybrid attacks in
- 2:57Speaker 2: Europe right now. Security on their mind. And they feel
- 2:59Speaker 2: like they maybe can't count on the U.S.
- 3:01Speaker 5: Anymore.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
- 3:02Speaker 4: And I think, you know, you're seeing these institutions. Sciences
- 3:05Speaker 4: Po is the sort of key. It's like the Harvard
- 3:07Speaker 4: Kennedy School of France. its students now want to study
- 3:11Speaker 4: defense intelligence. It's shifting a lot of its resources there.
- 3:13Speaker 4: I mean, the question is whether they can move fast enough.
- 3:16Speaker 4: And I think if you want to see, you know,
- 3:17Speaker 4: the sort of absence of the U.S., it is kind
- 3:19Speaker 4: of amazing that the meeting in New York during the U.N.
- 3:22Speaker 4: that we're talking about with Donald Trump is with Mamdani
- 3:25Speaker 4: because expectations, I think, are so low for the meetings
- 3:28Speaker 4: with Zelensky, with Xi, for the notion that the U.S.
- 3:31Speaker 4: is going to kind of shape what's happening in the
- 3:33Speaker 4: world right now.
- 3:36Speaker 5: Ben, it's fascinating. You talk about that meeting between the
- 3:39Speaker 5: president and the mayor. Sort through for me. I don't
- 3:43Speaker 5: know if you've written about this lately, but sort through
- 3:46Speaker 5: the difference between Democrats' reaction to Mayor Mom Donnie meeting
- 3:53Speaker 5: with Donald Trump and Hakeem Jeffries meeting with somebody who
- 3:58Speaker 5: doesn't work in the White House but is a peace envoy.
- 4:03Speaker 5: I'm a bit confused there. Maybe you can explain it
- 4:08Speaker 5: to me.
- 4:10Speaker 4: That is a good question, Joe. The Democrats were very
- 4:14Speaker 4: unhappy when to see Hakeem start, I think, basically trying
- 4:18Speaker 4: to figure out how he as majority leader would set
- 4:20Speaker 4: up a back channel to the administration when what they want,
- 4:23Speaker 4: you know, their federal representatives in Washington to do is
- 4:26Speaker 4: to fight Trump. I mean, I think Mamdani, I think
- 4:29Speaker 4: New Yorkers basically wanted Mamdani to not have Trump send
- 4:33Speaker 4: ICE to the city. And the New York mayor, you know,
- 4:36Speaker 4: unlike the Speaker of the House, there's no position of
- 4:39Speaker 4: strength there. And I think Mamdani has won a lot
- 4:43Speaker 4: of plaudits for keeping Trump out of New York's hair, essentially.
- 4:46Speaker 4: I do wonder, I mean, Trump must be getting bored
- 4:48Speaker 4: of this narrative. If I was Mamdani, I'd be a
- 4:49Speaker 4: little nervous today that Trump's going to kind of come
- 4:52Speaker 4: in with a plot twist, get some attention with a
- 4:55Speaker 4: big fight with Mamdani.
- 4:56Speaker 2: It certainly comes amid as the DHS has ramped up
- 5:00Speaker 2: deportation efforts in New York City. So that's one potential reason.
- 5:03Speaker 2: flashpoint for that meeting. Ben, before you go, tell us
- 5:06Speaker 2: a little bit about this next, the event you're hosting
- 5:08Speaker 2: tomorrow called The Next Three Billion, taking place at Hudson Yards. Sam,
- 5:11Speaker 2: before putting it on, what should we expect?
- 5:13Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an event focused on development, focused on Africa. Actually,
- 5:16Speaker 4: we're having, we have the Kenyan president, Ruto, will be there,
- 5:18Speaker 4: who today signed an op-ed with the Brazilians, the Europeans,
- 5:22Speaker 4: the Canadians, trying to, again, trying to figure out, is
- 5:24Speaker 4: there some way for middle powers, as they call them,
- 5:27Speaker 4: to take a bigger role in what is sort of
- 5:30Speaker 4: a power vacuum right now in global politics?
- 5:35Speaker 2: Semaphore is the next three billion event. Sixth place tomorrow
- 5:38Speaker 2: in New York City, Joe. And this is the kind
- 5:41Speaker 2: of thing, Editor-in-Chief of Semaphore, Ben Smith, thank you. And Joe,
- 5:43Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing that happens along the
- 5:45Speaker 2: sidelines of the UN this week. These sort of world
- 5:49Speaker 2: leaders come in. They meet with each other, of course,
- 5:50Speaker 2: in the United Nations, but they also make appearances, have
- 5:53Speaker 2: little informal greetings with each other, but also speak at
- 5:56Speaker 2: events like this, like Ben's at Semaphore yesterday. That's all
- 5:58Speaker 2: good news. The bad news is it's literally impossible to
- 6:01Speaker 2: get around town this week. Traffic's nuts.
- 6:03Speaker 5: Well, absolutely, absolutely impossible. I tried to call somebody that
- 6:07Speaker 5: lived two blocks from the U.N. last night and the
- 6:12Speaker 5: cell service was scrambled. Couldn't couldn't do it. So, yeah,
- 6:15Speaker 5: it just gets absolutely locked down and crazy there. But,
- 6:19Speaker 5: you know, that Mom Donnie Trump thing, you know, maybe
- 6:23Speaker 5: you get a sense that Donald Trump at times would
- 6:26Speaker 5: think maybe it would be better to be mayor of
- 6:29Speaker 5: New York City. to run Gotham and have the headaches
- 6:34Speaker 5: of running the country. He seems pretty bored right now
- 6:39Speaker 5: with his job in Washington, D.C. We'll see what happens.
- 6:42Speaker 5: Maybe the plot twist comes. Maybe Donald Trump wakes up
- 6:47Speaker 5: and says it was all a dream and lashes out
- 6:50Speaker 5: at New York City's mayor this afternoon. I'm not so sure,
- 6:53Speaker 5: but we'll see.
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