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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Ben Rubin from UK column and welcome
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Speaker 1: to my desk. I was going to say office, but
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Speaker 1: it's not really my office. It's our office, and this
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Speaker 1: is where I indulge my OCD and cover the wall
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Speaker 1: with diagrams and quotes and put things up on the whiteboard,
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Speaker 1: which is actually looking a little bit empty at the moment,
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Speaker 1: that will be much more full over the coming days
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Speaker 1: as I'm working on something quite significant which is related
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Speaker 1: to what I'm going to talk about today. But this
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Speaker 1: is a subset of a bigger story. But I'm calling
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Speaker 1: this film a Climate Cabal, and actually it might be
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Speaker 1: the first in a series because the Climate Cabal, this
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Speaker 1: essentially criminal conspiracy to create a single global political and
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Speaker 1: economic structure under the pretext of supposed man made climate
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Speaker 1: change is its existential crisis that we must all come
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Speaker 1: together and fix. Is driving pretty much every area of
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Speaker 1: policy and most of the crazy stuff that we're seeing
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Speaker 1: around us on a daily basis.
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Speaker 2: This push towards net zero.
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Speaker 1: And this huge green industrial transition, which really is about
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Speaker 1: consolidation of power and the consolidation of wealth and unlocking
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Speaker 1: a new industrial revolution, a fourth industrial revolution, which will
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Speaker 1: be extraordinarily extractive and damaging for the natural world, but
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Speaker 1: is being sold to us as a way to protect
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Speaker 1: the natural world. Classically, you see this kind of thing
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Speaker 1: all the time, this inversion of meaning, and it's being
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Speaker 1: led out by an international all essentially predator class, these
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Speaker 1: uber capitalists who own and control everything, most notably people
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Speaker 1: like the late David Rockefeller, who absolutely sits at the
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Speaker 1: core of this whole program. We certainly did do, but
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Speaker 1: the Rockefeller Foundation, which he was the head of, absolutely
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Speaker 1: sits at the core of this whole program. And there's
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Speaker 1: this fantastic quote that he put in his own memoirs, interestingly,
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Speaker 1: which came out in two thousand and two, where he
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Speaker 1: says that some even believe that we, the Rockefeller family,
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Speaker 1: are part of a secret cabal working against the best
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Speaker 1: interest of the United States, characterizing my family and me
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Speaker 1: as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world
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Speaker 1: to build a more integrated global political and economic structure,
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Speaker 1: one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I
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Speaker 1: stand guilty, and I am proud of it. My emphasis
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Speaker 1: there on the slide. That's quite an extraordinary quote and
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Speaker 1: essentially tells you everything that you need to know. About
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Speaker 1: what's happening at the moment we are pushing towards. What
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Speaker 1: we are being pushed towards, should I say, a one
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Speaker 1: world system, an integrated economic and political structure that will
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Speaker 1: place all power and all wealth into the hands of
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Speaker 1: an international unelected ruling class who are seeking to embed
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Speaker 1: their position in perpetuity. And climate change is the big lie,
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Speaker 1: the big narrative that is pushing that whole program along.
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Speaker 1: And earlier this year, back at the start of May,
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Speaker 1: I believe it was, I went to an event in
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Speaker 1: London called Innovation Zero, and this is a big old
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Speaker 1: public private marketplace, so where the politicians and the industry
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Speaker 1: people come together to talk about the implementation of this
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Speaker 1: whole program, and I'm going to get into that in
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Speaker 1: quite some detail. Just can to talk about what I saw,
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Speaker 1: Show some clips that I took on the floor of
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Speaker 1: the exhibition, put out some quotes from some of the
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Speaker 1: people that I heard speaking there, show you some of
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Speaker 1: the videos the Innovation Zero themselves have actually put out,
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Speaker 1: and this just gives you a great insight into the
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Speaker 1: current status, essentially of this whole climate change and green
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Speaker 1: industrial revolution that we're currently kind of being artificially funneled
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Speaker 1: into right.
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Speaker 2: But before I get into that, also, by the way.
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Speaker 1: I am, I'm going to point out a few other
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Speaker 1: important things that are happening around this as well, so
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Speaker 1: be a big focus on innovation zero. But then I'm
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Speaker 1: going to look at some of the other kind of
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Speaker 1: propaganda programs that are running in the background in the
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Speaker 1: UK and internationally, some of the key people and organizations
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Speaker 1: involved in that, so that you can get a sense
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Speaker 1: of how this whole thing is being is being coordinated.
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Speaker 1: But before I get into that, this is a very
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Speaker 1: brief bit of background, right, so you will not fail
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Speaker 1: to have noticed this issue of climate change. It is ubiquitous,
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Speaker 1: you know. In some sense, it's all we've heard about
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Speaker 1: for the past decade or so, this supposed existential crisis
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Speaker 1: due to carbon emissions and the idea that the world
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Speaker 1: is in a state of boiling.
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Speaker 2: I think was it. Antonio Gutira's the UN Secretary General,
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Speaker 2: says that we now have global boiling. It's not global warming.
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Speaker 1: Right, We've got just this whole kind of catastrophe narrative,
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Speaker 1: which means.
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Speaker 2: We've got to change everything.
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Speaker 1: We've got to give up fundamental rights, we've got to
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Speaker 1: scrap everything that's gone before and bring in a completely
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Speaker 1: new system. And this program towards the development of one
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Speaker 1: world that was described by David Rockefeller. There has been
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Speaker 1: going on for a very very very long time.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So they're a rich and powerful people and families and
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Speaker 1: groups operating in our society here in the UK and
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Speaker 1: internationally that have been seeking to consolidate wealth and power forever.
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Speaker 1: And we just get into the kind of the business
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Speaker 1: end of that, essentially, is what I would say, and
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Speaker 1: it's the significant part of the narrative around this has
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Speaker 1: been driven out of the UN, which was very heavily
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Speaker 1: backed and supported by the Rockefeller family in a whole
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Speaker 1: number of ways from its formulation through to the present day,
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Speaker 1: which I won't get into right now because it's not
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Speaker 1: what I'm making the film for, but I can talk
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Speaker 1: about that in a separate discussion. But a lot of
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Speaker 1: it comes from the UN Biosphere Conference, which took place
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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight, which was the first international conference
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Speaker 1: to address the relationship between human activity and the biosphere
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Speaker 1: from a scientific and a policy perspective, and that basically
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Speaker 1: lay the groundwork for this current push towards what they
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Speaker 1: call sustainable development. Right, and that's driving the entire global
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Speaker 1: political and economic agenda. And this whole thing has has
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Speaker 1: been playing out now for what is that Is that.
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Speaker 2: Nearly sixty years Is that right?
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Speaker 1: Yes, krii key, nearly sixty years since the UN Biosphere
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Speaker 1: Conference in sixty eight. Climy doesn't time fly. So the
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Speaker 1: UN's absolutely at the heart of this. A lot of
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Speaker 1: that is controlled and coordinated through the Intergovernmental Panel on
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Speaker 1: Climate Change, which operates essentially under the auspices of the UN,
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Speaker 1: the IPCC, you'll hear that term a lot, which is
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Speaker 1: a supposedly independent scientific panel who have given the full
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Speaker 1: stamp of approval from the global academy to the official
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Speaker 1: narrative around around clime change. And actually the UN actually
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Speaker 1: says explicitly one of their top people a couple of
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Speaker 1: years ago came out and said, we own the science,
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Speaker 1: which is a ridiculous thing to say. You can't own
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Speaker 1: and control science, right, defies the definition of the scientific
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Speaker 1: method right, doesn't allow for that. But anyway, they're using this,
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Speaker 1: these organizations like the IPCC to own and control the
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Speaker 1: global narrative, and that is basically the big driving propaganda
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Speaker 1: push is coming from the UN and these bodies, and
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Speaker 1: it's very much about about climate. A lot of this
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Speaker 1: is being driven by non governmental organizations, in particular the
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Speaker 1: Club of Rome, which interestingly was launched in nineteen sixty eight.
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Speaker 1: Founded in sixty eight, so at the same time as
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Speaker 1: the UN Biosphere Conference. I'm sure, as Brian would say,
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Speaker 1: just a coincidence. Ben, probably not a coincidence. I don't
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Speaker 1: believe in coincidences anymore, to be honest with you. When
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Speaker 1: you look at how these things kind of hang together,
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Speaker 1: when you look at them in and you step back
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Speaker 1: and actually see the coordination between these different component parts
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Speaker 1: of the system, it all looks proud to me.
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Speaker 2: And the Club of.
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Speaker 1: Rome, which still exists today, was founded by Aureliopeedch and
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Speaker 1: Alexander King to promote long term thinking on what they
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Speaker 1: called the world problematic, a term describing the complex interdependent
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Speaker 1: crises of population growth, resource exhaustion, environmental degradation, industrialization. And
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Speaker 1: the first meeting of the Club and Row of Rome
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Speaker 1: was held at the Villa Sei Belonee, which is a
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Speaker 1: private villa in Ballaggio in Lea by Lake Como, which
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Speaker 1: is owned by the Rockefeller Foundation. Right, so Rockefeller get
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Speaker 1: absolutely the fingerprints of that family and the foundation that
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Speaker 1: they backed all over the climate change agenda. And it
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Speaker 1: has to be understood in the context of that quote
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Speaker 1: that I just gave you a moment ago from David Rockefeller,
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Speaker 1: which is that they are proud of the fact that
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Speaker 1: they're trying to build an integrated, one world system right now.
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Speaker 1: The Club of Rome has publicly been central to this
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Speaker 1: whole agenda and how it's developed.
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Speaker 2: Over time.
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Speaker 1: They published lots of books and reports, one of which
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Speaker 1: I've just drawn a quote from here because I think
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Speaker 1: it's very revealing.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: It's called The First Global Revolution, published in the mid eighties,
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Speaker 1: written by Alexander King and a guy called Bertran Schnyder.
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Speaker 1: And they say in the book that in searching for
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Speaker 1: an enemy to unite us, all right, So that's an
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Speaker 1: interesting line to just dwell on for a second, In
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Speaker 1: searching for an enemy to unite us, right. So the
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Speaker 1: idea is that they're trying to unite humanity the world
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Speaker 1: against an enemy. We came up with the idea that pollution,
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Speaker 1: water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill
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Speaker 1: in their totality and in their interactions. These phenomena do
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Speaker 1: constitute a common threat, which the master the solidity, the
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Speaker 1: solidarity of all people. Sorry, all these dangers are caused
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Speaker 1: by human intervention, and it's only by changed behavior that
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Speaker 1: they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So the enemy to unite us is is us, because
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Speaker 1: apparently we are so damaging to the world that we
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Speaker 1: must be repressed and controlled. And I think that this
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Speaker 1: is an extremely important quote to to understand and to
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Speaker 1: dwell on when you think about what we're hearing constantly
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Speaker 1: from the media and from politicians and from the scientific
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Speaker 1: establishment about the way things are going and what needs
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Speaker 1: to be done about it. Absolutely core to this is
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Speaker 1: the Commonwealth of Nations. We talked about the UN, but
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Speaker 1: a big subset of the UN is the Commonwealth, which
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Speaker 1: is the fifty six nations from Antigua to Zambia, which
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Speaker 1: essentially are the British Empire. This is a rebrand of
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Speaker 1: the British Empire. The Empire ended after the Second World War.
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Speaker 1: We'd already been in some decline for a few decades
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Speaker 1: before that, but the Commonwealth is essentially the British Empire,
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Speaker 1: ruled through soft power rather than hard power. I think
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Speaker 1: that's the best way to think about it. And in
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine they issue the Langkawi Declaration, which was
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Speaker 1: from one of their big Commonwealth Heads of Government meetings,
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Speaker 1: where they called for a coordinated global effort to combat
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Speaker 1: the greenhouse effect which may lead to severe climatic changes,
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Speaker 1: and for all of that to be done under the
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Speaker 1: auspices of the UN. Do you remember the greenhouse effect
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Speaker 1: that was one of the precursors to climate change, global warming,
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Speaker 1: and all these kind of terms essentially ladder up to
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Speaker 1: the same thing, which is that humanity is going to
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Speaker 1: destroy the world unless we drastically change our entire society
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Speaker 1: in a way which just happens to benefit the richest
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Speaker 1: families who've ever lived in the whole of history the most.
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Speaker 1: But we don't talk about that too much. And the Commonwealth,
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Speaker 1: i think crucially, is one of the main mechanisms through
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Speaker 1: which Britain exercises its influence onto the rest of the world.
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Speaker 1: Right because if Britain came along on its own and said, well,
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Speaker 1: we've got to do this, we've got to do that,
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Speaker 1: then I think people would be quite suspicious because we
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Speaker 1: don't have a particularly good reputation on the international stage
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Speaker 1: for being honest about things. And actually we're running a
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Speaker 1: global empire up until fairly recently, and we use the
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Speaker 1: Commonwealth to manufacture consent to policies that our elites, our
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Speaker 1: ruling class, want to implement internationally. And we use the
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Speaker 1: Commonwealth as a way to turn around to the rest
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Speaker 1: of the world and say.
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Speaker 2: Look, we've talked to these brown people.
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Speaker 1: You know that's not me saying now, that's essentially how
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Speaker 1: they approach this stuff, right, people from the global South
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Speaker 1: and women of color and all that kind of thing,
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Speaker 1: and therefore you should trust us, right, And they're quite
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Speaker 1: explicit about this, right. So you can see here he's
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Speaker 1: now King Charles I. It was the king when this
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Speaker 1: picture was taken, right, So this was from twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four at one of the Chogham Commonwealth Heads of Government
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Speaker 1: meetings in Samoa, and you can see him there up
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Speaker 1: at the podium delivering his remarks. But then to his
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Speaker 1: right our left as we're looking at the picture, that's
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Speaker 1: Baroness Patricia Scotland, who was the Commonwealth Secretary General at
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Speaker 1: the time, and she, in other interviews that I've seen
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Speaker 1: with her, says that the Commonwealth is this Petri Dish
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Speaker 1: that you can grow almost anything in you come up
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Speaker 1: with solutions that work not just for the Commonwealth but
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Speaker 1: for everybody. So they developed policies within the Commonwealth through
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Speaker 1: client and perhaps in some instances deeply corrupt politicians who
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Speaker 1: are going to go along with the agenda that is
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Speaker 1: being handed down by the King, and then they use
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Speaker 1: that to influence international policy, particularly in places like the
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Speaker 1: United Nations. The Commonwealth is very very influential, very influential
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Speaker 1: in putting forward this whole idea of sustainable development and
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Speaker 1: sustainable investment. Crucially and unfortunately a lot of people aren't
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Speaker 1: really wise to this. And there's this fantastic quote from
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Speaker 1: a Vice President of Zambia, guy called Simon Kupwepwe, who
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Speaker 1: I think absolutely had his head screwed or I knew
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Speaker 1: exactly what was happening right where he said, if we
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Speaker 1: don't handle our independence very well, colonizers will come back
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Speaker 1: in the form of investors. And that's exactly what's going
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Speaker 1: on here. So sustainable development these investment packages in order
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Speaker 1: to bring in new energy systems and whatever else it
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Speaker 1: might be healthcare or education or you know, digital systems
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Speaker 1: for banking or whatever. It might be, which are being
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Speaker 1: delivered through inward investment from the city of London and
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Speaker 1: other places where international capital coalesces and exerts its influence
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Speaker 1: across the world. That is essentially colonization, That's what that is.
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Speaker 1: How empire now now exerts influence over humanity right and
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Speaker 1: the Commonwealth and the Brits are absolutely central to this
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Speaker 1: and most of what is currently happening in terms of
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Speaker 1: you know, real at the coal face activity, strategically, tactically,
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Speaker 1: how this whole thing is playing out. This global transition
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Speaker 1: is being driven out of London and Westminster and through
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Speaker 1: our involvements. I've just described international political bodies and places
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Speaker 1: like the World Economic Forum, which is the kind of
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Speaker 1: private sector counterpart to the United Nations. They work very
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Speaker 1: very closely together, as I'll come back to in a moment.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of the sort of intellectual groundwork for
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Speaker 1: this was developed in the UK, notably through the work
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Speaker 1: of this guy. So this is Lord Nicholas Stern, who
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Speaker 1: was the Chief Economist to the European Bank for Reconstruction Development,
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Speaker 1: so top top economics guy in the European Economic infrastructure.
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Speaker 1: He was then chief economist and senior Vice President of
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Speaker 1: the World Bank. So essentially he was doing things at
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Speaker 1: the European level and then took that up to the
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Speaker 1: global level. The World Bank and Europe in a similar
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Speaker 1: fashion to how I've just described the role of the
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Speaker 1: Commonwealth is absolutely an incubator for global policy, and they
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Speaker 1: actually view the EU as.
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Speaker 2: The kind of the.
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Speaker 1: Yardstick for how they want international governance to work, which,
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Speaker 1: if you know anything about the EU, is just frankly
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Speaker 1: laughable because it is just a hideous, hideously corrupt and
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Speaker 1: inepse organization in so many different ways. So that's kind
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Speaker 1: of Stern's provenance. And then after the World Bank, he
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Speaker 1: then went to work for Tony Blair in Downing Street,
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Speaker 1: and then they used Britain as the kind of the
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Speaker 1: Petri Dish, the laboratory for the development of a new
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Speaker 1: economic policy in response to this supposed climate crisis, and
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Speaker 1: that culminated in the Stern Review.
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Speaker 2: On the Economics of Climate Change.
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Speaker 1: Interesting choice of title there, Lord Stern, which came out
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Speaker 1: in October two thousand and six, and that introduced things
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Speaker 1: like carbon pricing, so this is the idea of people
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Speaker 1: being able to trade their carbon emissions, the introduction of
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Speaker 1: carbon taxes, all with the aim of supposedly driving down emissions,
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Speaker 1: but then also coincidentally at the same time creating a
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Speaker 1: new lucrative global marketplace for people to trade in. The
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Speaker 1: report also called for technology innovation, so the development and
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Speaker 1: deployment of low carbon technologies seeded through public investments is
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Speaker 1: about using tax payer money to create private markets so
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Speaker 1: that capital investors can extract enormous profits through this new
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Speaker 1: industrial revolution that we're being ushered towards.
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Speaker 2: He also called for.
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Speaker 1: A much greater international cooperation and develop up in these
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Speaker 1: global frameworks for collective action and sustainable development, which is
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Speaker 1: essentially the market in this sense, because he's talking about
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Speaker 1: the economics and the industrial side of the equation, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of this was about how do we prevent
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Speaker 1: climate change from having a negative impact on GDP because
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Speaker 1: it's gross domestic products turnover of the economy, global economy,
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Speaker 1: it's all these people think about.
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Speaker 2: Essentially.
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Speaker 1: Within this, he's then calling for much tighter regulation at
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Speaker 1: an international level, and the kind of knitting together of
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Speaker 1: these two power structures, the global political and economic power structures,
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Speaker 1: in a manner that David Rockefeller would be very pleased by, right,
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Speaker 1: because essentially all this stuff is driving towards the same endpoint.
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Speaker 2: He also called force.
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Speaker 1: Setting targets around and the reduction of carbon emissions in
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Speaker 1: the UK economy, but then also internationally keeping carbon levels
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Speaker 1: at a certain level below a certain level of presence
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Speaker 1: in the atmosphere, so concentration of carbon in the atmosphere,
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Speaker 1: keeping that below a certain level. And then also this
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Speaker 1: idea of adaptation and investing in what they call resilience measures,
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Speaker 1: and that is basically the transformation of our society in
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Speaker 1: order to combat this supposed existential threat presented by climate change,
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Speaker 1: all delivered or presented as a way of protecting the vulnerable,
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Speaker 1: and particularly doing that in developing nations who have been
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Speaker 1: less responsible over time for causing climate change. And that
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Speaker 1: means that we have some kind of duty of care
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Speaker 1: to them, which generally involves loaning the money so that
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Speaker 1: they can buy technology that they don't need from us. Right,
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Speaker 1: And that technology just so happens to certainly the more
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Speaker 1: modern stuff necessity, the implementation of a kind of global
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Speaker 1: digital surveillance state which is centrally and algorithmically managed and
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Speaker 1: just so happens to create a multi trillion dollar a
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Speaker 1: year marketplace for global industry, Right, it's basically how all
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Speaker 1: this stuff actually kind of kind of plays out now.
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Speaker 1: So that was delivered, the Stern Report was delivered for Blair,
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Speaker 1: was commissioned by Tony Blair, but then actually the policy
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Speaker 1: was only then properly implemented by Blair's successor, Gordon Brown,
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Speaker 1: who who brought in the Climate Change Act in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and that basically embedded pretty much all
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Speaker 1: the recommendations from the Stern Review into UK policy.
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Speaker 2: Locked us into these.
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Speaker 1: Basically inescapable obligations to set caps on the missions, to
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Speaker 1: do these rolling five year reviews, to set future targets,
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Speaker 1: and to look at progress towards the targets that's been
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Speaker 1: set previously. They've just done the fourth one actually, which
24:36
Speaker 1: I downloaded a couple of days ago. It's about five
24:38
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pages, so you know, I need to
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Speaker 1: find myself a bit of breathing space to go and
24:44
Speaker 1: delve into that.
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Speaker 2: Right, But this stuff's absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Still still playing out right now, twenty years down the track.
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Speaker 1: And one of the kind of key developments of the
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Speaker 1: Climate Change Act was the creation of something called the
25:04
Speaker 1: Climate Change Committee the CCC, which is this independent body
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Speaker 1: supposedly independent body tasked with advising the government on carbon budgets,
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Speaker 1: monitoring progress, reporting to Parliament, and then that.
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Speaker 2: Runs across.
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Speaker 1: Administrations ultimately right, because this was brought in by Brown.
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Speaker 1: But then this is this is binding on subsequent Conservative governments,
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Speaker 1: whether it's Brown or may or Johnson or Sunac or
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Speaker 1: whoever it might be. And right up to the present
25:37
Speaker 1: day with Kirs Starmer, there's been absolutely no deviation from
25:39
Speaker 1: any of this at all. Essentially, we're being ruled by
25:43
Speaker 1: a technocracy, an unelected technocratic managerial class who know one
25:47
Speaker 1: voted for, who none of us have any kind of
25:50
Speaker 1: real ability to impact, you know, professionally or politically, but
25:57
Speaker 1: whose wages that we pay the consequences of, whose decisions
26:02
Speaker 1: we have to deal with on a daily basis. And
26:06
Speaker 1: you know, we've got the highest energy prices in Europe
26:08
Speaker 1: if I think actually potentially in the world. We've destroyed
26:11
Speaker 1: our industrial base and all of this is in order
26:14
Speaker 1: to to comply with these kind of arbitrary restrictions that
26:20
Speaker 1: have been handed down by people like Lord Stern and
26:23
Speaker 1: Gordon Brown. And this is infected absolutely everything, right, and
26:35
Speaker 1: it's essentially it's almost this is getting into the territory
26:40
Speaker 1: of religious doctrine now right. So it's extraordinarily difficult for
26:45
Speaker 1: any kind of serious scientists, particularly in some kind of
26:50
Speaker 1: any kind of academic position, to push back on this stuff.
26:53
Speaker 1: You want to get grant funding for your research, then
26:56
Speaker 1: saying anything that runs counter to the establishment and narrative
27:01
Speaker 1: around climate change is going to be extremely damaging to that.
27:08
Speaker 1: But there is sent there is the sense, enormous amount
27:11
Speaker 1: of sense, even within bodies like the IPCC, which is
27:14
Speaker 1: really encouraging to see, and actually that is increasing. And
27:20
Speaker 1: you know, science should be allowed to do what science
27:22
Speaker 1: is supposed to do, which is to critically engage with
27:25
Speaker 1: absolutely everything without fear or fervor without any kind of censorship,
27:30
Speaker 1: in order to establish what is and isn't true. Like
27:32
Speaker 1: that's what science is supposed to be doing. And one
27:36
Speaker 1: of the only reasons that the establishment has been able
27:39
Speaker 1: to progress this whole thing is because of well the
27:42
Speaker 1: lock up of the scientific establishment, but also because the media,
27:45
Speaker 1: particularly in this country has been completely shackled, most notably
27:50
Speaker 1: via the BBC, which is still an extraordinarily dominant voice.
27:54
Speaker 1: Or that is changing who actually issued some internal guidance
27:59
Speaker 1: back in twenty seven team, which starts with the phrase
28:03
Speaker 1: climate change is happening is in capitals and in bold
28:10
Speaker 1: in their own document, which essentially sets the tone for
28:13
Speaker 1: the rest of that four page piece of guidance which
28:16
Speaker 1: came out, which basically says you aren't really allowed to
28:19
Speaker 1: critique this at all, introduces this idea of climate deniers.
28:26
Speaker 1: You know, they're a denier. We can't have deniers on
28:29
Speaker 1: because that would be you know, scientific which have people
28:32
Speaker 1: who were challenging the hypothesis. But you know, what does
28:36
Speaker 1: the BBC have to do with truth? Not a lot,
28:39
Speaker 1: quite frankly. Now importantly, this is essentially being delivered through
28:45
Speaker 1: what amounts to global fascism, right, and there's this quote
28:49
Speaker 1: from Benito Mussolini, the Italian dictator who actually invented fascism,
28:55
Speaker 1: where he said that fascism should more appropriately be called
28:58
Speaker 1: corporatism because it because it is a merger of state
29:02
Speaker 1: and corporate power. And if you remember the quote that
29:06
Speaker 1: I read out at the beginning from David Rockefeller where
29:08
Speaker 1: he says that we're creating a more integrated political and
29:12
Speaker 1: economic structure. Well, the political structure is the state, and
29:15
Speaker 1: the economic structure is the corporate industrial side.
29:18
Speaker 2: Of things, you know.
29:19
Speaker 1: So what Rockefeller is calling for and what is being
29:22
Speaker 1: delivered right now is technically fascist, right really importantly, and
29:29
Speaker 1: that is being driven through the UN and in particular
29:33
Speaker 1: the Sustainable Development Goals. And there's this fantastic slide from
29:37
Speaker 1: a lady that I've talked about a lot in other
29:40
Speaker 1: reports for UK column called Lisa Witter, who runs something
29:45
Speaker 1: called Apolitical Foundation, and.
29:48
Speaker 2: Which is a global.
29:51
Speaker 1: Body operating in one hundred and seventy countries run out
29:55
Speaker 1: of the UK and Germany, and the kind of co
29:59
Speaker 1: headquartered between the two countries who are transforming global governments
30:05
Speaker 1: and retraining and reframing politicians and civil servants and propagandizing
30:10
Speaker 1: local populations. And she actually shows here on this slide
30:15
Speaker 1: that I took from a video that I found of
30:18
Speaker 1: her talking on YouTube about the integration of two main
30:22
Speaker 1: power structures. Yeah, government on the left hand side, financial
30:24
Speaker 1: markets on the right hand side, State and market integrating
30:29
Speaker 1: coming together in order to deliver something that meets the
30:33
Speaker 1: technical definition of fascism. And you can see in the
30:36
Speaker 1: center there that is the UN Sustainable Development Goal logo
30:40
Speaker 1: seventeen goals, one of which I think is number thirteen
30:45
Speaker 1: relates to climate change. There are a bunch of others
30:48
Speaker 1: in there which we won't get into right now, but
30:53
Speaker 1: climate change is absolutely critical to this. Actually you can
30:56
Speaker 1: see Dan the bottom center right. Yeah, climate change involves
31:01
Speaker 1: one of the major threats, supposed threats, which is basically
31:06
Speaker 1: a crisis narrative that's being used to terrorized population into
31:10
Speaker 1: accepting this creation of a single, one world, global fascist
31:16
Speaker 1: system that will put all power and wealth into the
31:18
Speaker 1: hands of a completely unaccountable international elite. So this is
31:25
Speaker 1: quite important for people to understand. And then also it's
31:28
Speaker 1: not just about the government and the state. This is
31:32
Speaker 1: things have evolved over time, and really importantly to understand
31:37
Speaker 1: is this idea of what we call trisectoral networks, where
31:42
Speaker 1: the public and the private sectors are integrating with each
31:46
Speaker 1: other in that kind of fascist model that I've just
31:49
Speaker 1: talked about. But they're doing that by manufacturing consent through
31:54
Speaker 1: the influence of what they call civil society organizations. And
31:58
Speaker 1: essentially how that works is the extremely wealthy individuals and
32:04
Speaker 1: families and companies put money into supposedly charitable foundations and
32:12
Speaker 1: civil society organizations in order to manufacture consent for policies
32:22
Speaker 1: that are then implemented by compliant politicians. And when those
32:27
Speaker 1: policies are brought in, they just so happened to create
32:30
Speaker 1: really lucrative new market opportunities for international capital who then
32:35
Speaker 1: put more money into the civil society organizations to create
32:37
Speaker 1: new laws that are enacted that create more money for them.
32:40
Speaker 1: And the whole thing goes around and around and around
32:41
Speaker 1: and around and around, right, And that's actually embedded into
32:44
Speaker 1: UN practice and has been since nineteen ninety eight by
32:49
Speaker 1: Kofi and Nan, who was the Secretary German at the time.
32:53
Speaker 1: And this model is a ubiquitous, whether it's at a
32:58
Speaker 1: global level or right down into you know, what's happening
33:01
Speaker 1: in your local area. You'll see politicians and business people
33:07
Speaker 1: working with charities, foundations, civil society organizations NGOs like there's
33:13
Speaker 1: various different terms for this, in order to create the
33:19
Speaker 1: appearance of essentially some kind of democratic process or the
33:23
Speaker 1: idea that the you know, what they're doing is desirable
33:26
Speaker 1: for the rest of society, when pretty much exclusively it isn't.
33:31
Speaker 3: All right.
33:33
Speaker 2: So, with that all in mind, I headed off to.
33:40
Speaker 1: Innovation Zero in Kensington, Olympia, West London. I put my
33:48
Speaker 1: commuter backpack on and I headed over on the overground
33:52
Speaker 1: from Walthamstowe, where I was staying with a friend, and
33:58
Speaker 1: I joined the rat race again because I used to
34:01
Speaker 1: be in the rat race and I'm not really now.
34:04
Speaker 1: And I went over to Olympia, which is a really
34:13
Speaker 1: stunningly impressive old Victorian exhibition center in West London, and
34:24
Speaker 1: I got my lanyard and I entered the exhibition hall,
34:29
Speaker 1: which is, like I say, it's a beautiful, beautiful Victorian
34:33
Speaker 1: building which was opened in eighteen eighty six. I believe
34:37
Speaker 1: it was certainly in that decade in the eighteen eighties
34:42
Speaker 1: as a place to showcase the technologies of the First
34:45
Speaker 1: Industrial Revolution. That's what it was for, and ultimately to
34:49
Speaker 1: project imperial power out across the British Empire. And essentially
34:55
Speaker 1: what was happening here is the same thing today. It's
34:57
Speaker 1: just that it's the Fourth Industrial Revolution the First Industrial Revolution,
35:01
Speaker 1: and it's not the British Empire. It's the Commonwealth of
35:04
Speaker 1: Nations and then the United the UN network beyond that,
35:09
Speaker 1: which is basically every country on Earth, you know, And
35:15
Speaker 1: Innovation zero is a crucial dissemination point for new ideas,
35:21
Speaker 1: new technologies, investment opportunities, politicians and civil servants to come
35:27
Speaker 1: together to talk about the creation of this public private
35:29
Speaker 1: marketplace and it is public private. So headline sponsor HSBC,
35:34
Speaker 1: the huge international bank, the Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation,
35:40
Speaker 1: so absolutely got its roots in the British Empire and
35:44
Speaker 1: the East India Company and those kind of early early
35:48
Speaker 1: years of imperial domination and resource extraction and wealth creation.
35:55
Speaker 1: Absolutely focused on the city of London, so they were
36:00
Speaker 1: headline sponsor. There are lots of other people sponsoring as well,
36:02
Speaker 1: but they're the headline. And then this has all been
36:04
Speaker 1: done in partnership with uk r I UK Research and Innovation,
36:09
Speaker 1: which is part of Innovate UK, which is the UK's
36:12
Speaker 1: innovation agency, which is responsible for the introduction of new technologies,
36:19
Speaker 1: new social policies, new medicines. I mean, it's just extraordinary
36:24
Speaker 1: the scope of what ukr I and Innovate UK are into.
36:29
Speaker 2: But this is this So this was the.
36:32
Speaker 1: Collaboration between international capital and the UK government in London
36:40
Speaker 1: as a key kind of focal point for the development
36:45
Speaker 1: of this new market and this was the agenda. The
36:53
Speaker 1: remit that has been set for Innovation zero was quite extraordinary.
36:57
Speaker 2: So if you actually go to their website.
36:59
Speaker 1: They talk about what happens on the main stage, and
37:01
Speaker 1: I'll come back to the main stage in a moment,
37:04
Speaker 1: because that's where I spent most of my time looking
37:07
Speaker 1: at the talks there, and we'll show I'll give you
37:09
Speaker 1: some insight into who was talking what they were talking about.
37:13
Speaker 1: But just read this statement is off their website. The
37:17
Speaker 1: Innovation Zero World main stage sets the strategic direction for
37:22
Speaker 1: the future economy. They're setting the strategic direction for the
37:27
Speaker 1: future economy. It brings together governments, global industry, so there's
37:32
Speaker 1: that public private thing, infrastructure owners and major investors to
37:36
Speaker 1: define how the transition is delivered at national and international scale.
37:40
Speaker 1: The transition towards a completely new political and economic system,
37:47
Speaker 1: the One World System. How that's delivered at a national
37:50
Speaker 1: level here in the UK and internationally exs is a
37:53
Speaker 1: global program. They then go on to say, this is
37:56
Speaker 1: where energy, security, industrial growthra structured investment, defense, health and food, resilience,
38:03
Speaker 1: climate adaptation and mitigation converge into a single systems conversation.
38:10
Speaker 1: Think about that. That's everything energy, industrial growth, it's all
38:17
Speaker 1: industrial growth, all investment in infrastructure, defense, health, food, and
38:24
Speaker 1: then what they call adaptation and mitigation.
38:27
Speaker 2: So this is the.
38:29
Speaker 1: Total reshaping of how our societies operate, how we live,
38:35
Speaker 1: how we interact with each other. A lot of this
38:38
Speaker 1: is about urbanization and the creation of these new smart
38:41
Speaker 1: cities and the reduction in rural populations, and the transformation
38:45
Speaker 1: of our food systems, how we educate our children.
38:51
Speaker 2: How healthcare is a living.
38:52
Speaker 1: Everything has been hived up into what they call a
38:57
Speaker 1: single systems conversation, a single integrate its systems conversation. And
39:01
Speaker 1: so this is the coalescence of all of that stuff
39:05
Speaker 1: into the one world system has being described by David Rockefeller,
39:08
Speaker 1: which is about creating a new, more closely integrated political
39:13
Speaker 1: and economic structure, right, And they can't do it on their own.
39:17
Speaker 1: So this is a this is a this is a marketplace,
39:20
Speaker 1: and this is a Actually, as Marissa Drew from Standard Charter,
39:25
Speaker 1: one of the people speaking who's very high up in
39:27
Speaker 1: this whole thing, she's a chief sustainability officer at Standard
39:30
Speaker 1: Charter Bank, and she said that there's an infinite market
39:36
Speaker 1: opportunity around climate change, an infinite market opportunity. That's how
39:42
Speaker 1: they're talking about this stuff, thinking about this stuff, and
39:44
Speaker 1: that involves a lot of people coming together, networking, cutting deals,
39:49
Speaker 1: accessing capital, getting grant funding, a lot of grant funding
39:53
Speaker 1: floating around, a load of tax pay payer money coming
39:56
Speaker 1: into this. And these are the self Clai aims.
40:00
Speaker 2: True believers. These are the people that believe in climate change.
40:04
Speaker 1: See the market opportunity, understand the political implications, are going
40:10
Speaker 1: to come together, and they're going to work out how
40:11
Speaker 1: they're going to coordinate with each other to make this
40:13
Speaker 1: whole thing happen. And I'm going to just show you
40:18
Speaker 1: now it's about it's about nine minutes actually, just a
40:23
Speaker 1: clip of me walking around on the floor seeing what
40:25
Speaker 1: was going on.
40:30
Speaker 2: So I'm still in Olympia.
40:36
Speaker 1: It really is a very good venue with the lights
40:44
Speaker 1: streaming through the roof, but they're up there. You see
40:47
Speaker 1: that classic You've got the new development out of the
40:51
Speaker 1: back of the extension. It's kind of looming over the
40:56
Speaker 1: bright and open Victorian structure, looking like some kind of
41:02
Speaker 1: death star in the background. Classic, classic, terrible piece of
41:11
Speaker 1: development work. So I'm gonna have a little wander around
41:17
Speaker 1: and comment on some of the things I can see.
41:27
Speaker 1: It's a really really unusual mix of companies here, which
41:35
Speaker 1: I'm guessing is done deliberately. It's basically all the different
41:39
Speaker 1: component parts of a market. You chuck them all together,
41:44
Speaker 1: shake 'em up, put some investors in there, some founders,
41:49
Speaker 1: some people looking for jobs, and then shake it all,
41:55
Speaker 1: shake it all together. See what comes out the other side.
42:00
Speaker 2: You've got the biotech, you've got.
42:08
Speaker 1: Advanced technologies for the architecture of the built environment. You've
42:14
Speaker 1: got the UK National World Funds, which is a really
42:19
Speaker 1: important thing, these public investment vehicles where they're taking taxpayer
42:26
Speaker 1: money and then using that to seed from markets.
42:31
Speaker 2: And see here the National.
42:32
Speaker 1: Welfare mobilizing finance, unlock and growth, driving more than one
42:35
Speaker 1: hundred billion of finance so on long term economic growth
42:40
Speaker 1: and accelerate the transition to clean energy. So that's taxpayer
42:43
Speaker 1: money being used to drive an industrial transition from seeding
42:48
Speaker 1: the market, building grid infrastructure.
42:52
Speaker 2: You can see on the visual back there.
42:57
Speaker 3: This is the real kind of.
42:59
Speaker 1: Hard core infrastructure required to drive the transition.
43:04
Speaker 3: And then we've got some really interesting.
43:08
Speaker 1: It's like boiler technology, you know, it's proper kind of engineering.
43:18
Speaker 2: Next to HSBC, and then a bunch of.
43:29
Speaker 1: Pretty big technology companies lurking around as well. So Haitarchi's
43:33
Speaker 1: here somewhere. Who are I want to say Japanese, but
43:40
Speaker 1: they might not be, might be Korean, or might be neither,
43:45
Speaker 1: might be from Taiwan.
43:46
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
43:47
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're Japanese, though. Loads of stuff about data.
43:55
Speaker 1: His company Climatic with a Q. It's all about data
43:59
Speaker 1: and comps clients, building benchmarks into corporate reporting systems so
44:05
Speaker 1: that companies can force themselves to.
44:08
Speaker 3: Comply with.
44:13
Speaker 1: Whatever the climate gods tell them needs to happen.
44:18
Speaker 3: Uk Cech she's all about resilience.
44:44
Speaker 1: Resilience it's a slightly terrifying word that we we're hearing
44:50
Speaker 1: a lot now entering the discussions around climate and energy
44:56
Speaker 1: and the whole of society, and it's this concept of
45:03
Speaker 1: risk management. Everything's done for the management of risk to
45:07
Speaker 1: be sure that society is resilient.
45:09
Speaker 2: And you think, okay, what does that mean.
45:12
Speaker 1: It sounds like we need to do it because why
45:15
Speaker 1: wouldn't you want your society to be resilient? But actually
45:18
Speaker 1: it's about the imposition of centralized control in whatever form
45:22
Speaker 1: that might take. When you actually listen to what they're
45:28
Speaker 1: saying and what they're recommending, and there's loads of these
45:32
Speaker 1: little workshop things happening.
45:34
Speaker 3: Around the place, So.
45:39
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever been anywhere where they've got
45:42
Speaker 1: all of these kind of workshop sessions just amplifying out
45:47
Speaker 1: into the main hall.
45:49
Speaker 2: And then you've got the main stage at the back.
45:52
Speaker 2: You see over there.
45:54
Speaker 1: Sure you see in the videos that sign it that
45:56
Speaker 1: thing says main stage and basically the whole back of
45:59
Speaker 1: the hall is taken up by that, and they're amplifying
46:01
Speaker 1: out into the main space as well.
46:04
Speaker 3: And they've got all.
46:04
Speaker 1: These little media, little media hunts for shooting interviews, having
46:10
Speaker 1: conversations with people. We'll see this is energy voice from guessing,
46:16
Speaker 1: is some trade rag.
46:20
Speaker 2: Else that we've got.
46:24
Speaker 1: Ukas UCAS dot Com World of Confidence enhancing global climate
46:30
Speaker 1: accountability and the credibility of sustainability actions against is all
46:34
Speaker 1: reporting compliance, making sure that you're telling people what you're doing,
46:39
Speaker 1: and this is being communicated properly, and it's all lined
46:42
Speaker 1: shared standards that everyone understands so that we can all
46:47
Speaker 1: migrate to this new system at the same time, at
46:49
Speaker 1: the same pace, in lockstep. Everywhere around the world, not
46:54
Speaker 1: just in the UK, internationally too. OCS energy services are
47:03
Speaker 1: here's a Tachi helping government cities and companies cut carbon
47:08
Speaker 1: through climate change innovation. They've probably got a big consulting
47:18
Speaker 1: offer wrapped around their technology platforms.
47:22
Speaker 2: But that's interesting.
47:23
Speaker 1: Government cities and companies. Cities are absolutely crucial in this.
47:28
Speaker 2: You've got.
47:30
Speaker 1: The regions in the house here. You've got Tees Valley
47:35
Speaker 1: up in the Northeast, which has got this whole section here.
47:40
Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest stands in the place. They're
47:46
Speaker 1: called in creating the world's first net zero industrial cluster
47:49
Speaker 1: by twenty forty in.
47:51
Speaker 2: The Tees Valley.
47:54
Speaker 1: So this is the port facility, the offshore wind or
47:59
Speaker 1: near issure Wind.
48:00
Speaker 3: I guess this looks.
48:04
Speaker 2: Like it's part of it too.
48:07
Speaker 1: Decoganization of industry using nuclear with a nuclear there you go. Yeah,
48:12
Speaker 1: that's up on teaside. Another thing up on teaside Wilson International.
48:40
Speaker 1: So that is the repurposing of the Northeastern industrial heartlands
48:49
Speaker 1: towards this green energy transition, deep underground laboratory powering zero technologies, UK.
49:04
Speaker 3: Research and investment.
49:08
Speaker 4: Some of that.
49:09
Speaker 1: Those miners still going back underground, are they.
49:14
Speaker 3: Buy diesel from waste?
49:17
Speaker 4: Okay, that sounds like a good idea.
49:29
Speaker 2: So this is really interesting.
49:30
Speaker 1: Actually, what's going on with tea side, I.
49:37
Speaker 2: Have to have a chat to these people.
49:40
Speaker 1: So I did try and have a chat to those people,
49:41
Speaker 1: but they actually didn't want to talk to me, not
49:44
Speaker 1: on camera anyway.
49:45
Speaker 2: Because.
49:48
Speaker 1: Their comms guy had gone home. And apparently the guy,
49:52
Speaker 1: I think it was a comment if he was a politician,
49:54
Speaker 1: he's probably a civil servant I was talking to from teaside.
49:58
Speaker 2: He wasn't allowed to talk to.
49:59
Speaker 1: Anybody without having his handle there, which was quite interesting,
50:04
Speaker 1: I thought, and probably because they were worried about someone
50:09
Speaker 1: coming along and criticizing what they were doing, which is
50:12
Speaker 1: which is essentially what I'm up to. And by the way,
50:16
Speaker 1: you have to toe the line with this stuff, right
50:18
Speaker 1: because because actually, as I said there in that clear
50:22
Speaker 1: a minute ago, there was they were creating biodiesel from waste.
50:26
Speaker 1: That is a good idea. Actually, that is a good idea.
50:29
Speaker 1: It's probably something we should be doing. So you've got
50:31
Speaker 1: to be careful not to throw the baby out with
50:34
Speaker 1: the bath water, as they say.
50:35
Speaker 2: Right.
50:35
Speaker 1: And actually, there was another really good thing that I
50:37
Speaker 1: saw there, which I've been thinking about for quite some
50:42
Speaker 1: time myself, which is this organization Propel and Power Limited,
50:46
Speaker 1: who create tidal turbines and you know, I've always thought
50:51
Speaker 1: to myself, if we're going to be using.
50:55
Speaker 2: The forces of.
50:55
Speaker 1: Nature to generate electricity, Let's say, but we know that
51:00
Speaker 1: the sun doesn't always shine and the wind doesn't always blow,
51:03
Speaker 1: but the tide always goes.
51:05
Speaker 2: In and out, doesn't it.
51:07
Speaker 1: So why I'm using tidal particularly, you know, as I'm
51:10
Speaker 1: standing here today in a city like Plymouth and actually
51:14
Speaker 1: in a country like the UK, which is you know,
51:17
Speaker 1: from a tidal perspective, it's let's say it's a tidal
51:20
Speaker 1: superpower because we are an island and you know, we're
51:24
Speaker 1: surrounded by ocean. So isn't that quite a good idea?
51:28
Speaker 1: So I actually I like I like this Propel and
51:30
Speaker 1: Power Limited company. That's really interesting to me. Probably something
51:34
Speaker 1: to explore there. I like that idea of bio diesel
51:36
Speaker 1: from waste. It's probably a good idea, you know. So
51:39
Speaker 1: you do have to be careful not to not to
51:42
Speaker 1: to to criticize things that actually could potentially be useful.
51:47
Speaker 2: Right.
51:48
Speaker 1: But then, unfortunately this is all in the context of
51:52
Speaker 1: this very heavily politicized drive towards a global industrial transition,
51:57
Speaker 1: which is primarily about solar, primarily about wind, and then
52:03
Speaker 1: also these highly extractive battery technologies, right like which which
52:08
Speaker 1: which are built using slave labor? Let's be honest. Yeah,
52:12
Speaker 1: so the rare the minerals that are required to create
52:15
Speaker 1: these technologies, you know, the the industries that produce them
52:21
Speaker 1: are as extractive and and as badly behaved, if not
52:26
Speaker 1: more badly behaved than the oil industry has ever been.
52:30
Speaker 1: And they're much more poorly regulated. And we know that
52:36
Speaker 1: a lot of what they do is based on slave
52:38
Speaker 1: laboring places like the Congo for example.
52:41
Speaker 2: Right.
52:43
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's let's goind of have a look at
52:46
Speaker 1: the main stage. That was just a tiny, tiny, tiny
52:49
Speaker 1: little slide. They'll give you a sense of what's going
52:51
Speaker 1: on on the floor of the exhibition. Some of the
52:53
Speaker 1: types of organizations are there that the compliance point is
52:57
Speaker 1: really important, right, So it's all all about compliance to
53:02
Speaker 1: technocratically mandated global standards that are cascaded down through the
53:09
Speaker 1: system that all companies are having to comply with. There's
53:13
Speaker 1: nothing normal or organic or natural.
53:16
Speaker 2: About any of this.
53:17
Speaker 1: And actually, actually just one final example, there was this
53:20
Speaker 1: organization here called Sustainability Unlocked. They've created quite a neat
53:24
Speaker 1: little business. But the thing is, unfortunately, the information they're
53:28
Speaker 1: putting into organizations is.
53:32
Speaker 2: It's not necessary.
53:33
Speaker 1: And actually a lot of the spokespeople they've got so
53:35
Speaker 1: they kind of present themselves as like a TED type
53:38
Speaker 1: organization specifically for climate changes. They say, you're trusted by
53:41
Speaker 1: the world's most forward thinking companies. So they've got some
53:44
Speaker 1: big clients Santander, air Bus, GSK, etcetera, etcetera. And what
53:49
Speaker 1: they do is create knowledge and learning systems that are
53:53
Speaker 1: then integrated into the intranet. Yeah, so the kind of
53:58
Speaker 1: digital platform that style will have access to to you know,
54:01
Speaker 1: do their timesheets, or submit their expenses or you know
54:04
Speaker 1: whatever else it is that people do with their intranet
54:06
Speaker 1: these days. They're actually embed learning modules so that you
54:11
Speaker 1: can equip yourself with good information to mobilize your strategy,
54:17
Speaker 1: protect against regulatory and operational risk. I'm reading off the
54:21
Speaker 1: banner in the center there, and then that's delivered by
54:24
Speaker 1: what they call world leading experts, including Mark Carney and
54:30
Speaker 1: who else I recognize on there. You've got Ronnie Coleman
54:35
Speaker 1: at the bottom there, Ronnie Cohen, sorry not Coleman, and
54:42
Speaker 1: various others. Right, So there's that side of compliance as well,
54:46
Speaker 1: and knowledge and learning and propagandizing the people who work
54:52
Speaker 1: in multinational corporations into going along with the climate narrative basically,
54:57
Speaker 1: and a whole lot of other stuff besides that, right,
55:01
Speaker 1: So let's just skip on from there. We'll talk about
55:03
Speaker 1: the main stage, the thing that I pointed to in
55:07
Speaker 1: the film that you saw where and this is the big,
55:10
Speaker 1: the big, blockbuster showstopper piece of the event. The whole
55:15
Speaker 1: thing was led off on the day by this fella
55:18
Speaker 1: from among Investments, who are the Saudi Arabian Investment fund
55:26
Speaker 1: behind Innovation Zero. They've got a bunch of investments in
55:29
Speaker 1: these event companies, and there was loads of Saudi presents,
55:33
Speaker 1: loads of Saudi investors.
55:34
Speaker 2: They had a big stand and they're.
55:36
Speaker 1: Just firing off capital into things that they think had
55:39
Speaker 1: got the potential to deliver a return for them. Obviously,
55:43
Speaker 1: it's what they're there for. It's not about saving the world.
55:46
Speaker 2: Believe me.
55:47
Speaker 1: It's about making loads and loads and loads of money. So,
55:51
Speaker 1: you know, there's interesting that this is being run by
55:55
Speaker 1: a Saudi group, but it was led out by this
56:00
Speaker 1: guy who is the chair of the Climate Change Commission,
56:03
Speaker 1: which is that in supposedly independent body that was set
56:06
Speaker 1: up as a consequence of the Climate Change Act brought
56:08
Speaker 1: in by Gordon Brown. This is Nigel Topping and he's
56:13
Speaker 1: a kind of engineer and industrial manager by background, run
56:21
Speaker 1: you know, big big production operations, factories, that kind of thing.
56:25
Speaker 1: By the sounds of it, we were talking about described
56:27
Speaker 1: by the Telegraph as the most powerful man in the
56:29
Speaker 1: country that you've never heard of, and I think that's
56:31
Speaker 1: absolutely true. I think about like the impact of this
56:35
Speaker 1: whole climate agenda from an industrial, a financial, political, cultural perspective.
56:42
Speaker 1: He's basically right of the summit of that pyramid, preaching
56:48
Speaker 1: to the choir, and actually he used that term. I know,
56:50
Speaker 1: I'm preaching to the choir, but they're trying to shift
56:54
Speaker 1: things a little bit. He's talking about this idea that
56:56
Speaker 1: in previous years they positioned this event as being for
56:59
Speaker 1: true belie and there definitely was something semi religious about
57:04
Speaker 1: and more so in previous year. If you go and
57:07
Speaker 1: look at previous events from Innovation's era, they're very much
57:11
Speaker 1: like moralizing and presenting this as some kind of you know,
57:15
Speaker 1: great moral crusade to save humanity, and actually it's really
57:18
Speaker 1: not what that's about at all. And also it's certainly
57:20
Speaker 1: not a good way to motivate capital because they don't
57:23
Speaker 1: care about that. They care about making money. You know,
57:27
Speaker 1: as as as he got into right, and because he's
57:30
Speaker 1: describing this as a market, he this is there is
57:36
Speaker 1: inevitable and inevitability to all of this, saying that this
57:40
Speaker 1: transition is only going to accelerate. The only route to
57:43
Speaker 1: energy security is through electric electrification, presenting lots of statistics
57:49
Speaker 1: around this idea that floods and fires and natural disasters
57:53
Speaker 1: are increasing, when actually it's very easy to find information
57:56
Speaker 1: it says that that's not the case at all, loads
57:59
Speaker 1: of charts of carbon reduction progress made so far, projections
58:04
Speaker 1: about corporate profits, the admission that it's easier to unlock
58:09
Speaker 1: capital investment when there's a growth story.
58:11
Speaker 2: So essentially he's there to deliver a.
58:13
Speaker 1: Growth story so that capital flows into this marketplace. And
58:16
Speaker 1: he even uses the phrase there are fortunes to be made,
58:20
Speaker 1: which is a bit like the Maurissa Drew quote I
58:23
Speaker 1: just said a minute ago where she says this is
58:26
Speaker 1: an infinite market opportunity. Patrick Topping saying there are fortunes
58:29
Speaker 1: to be made here, all right, very much delivering that message.
58:35
Speaker 1: And then also after he was speaking, I did hear
58:38
Speaker 1: this lady Nicola Ranger from the Earth Capital Nexus at
58:44
Speaker 1: the London School of Economics. The LSSE, by the way,
58:46
Speaker 1: is absolutely central to this, with the Grantham Institute, which
58:49
Speaker 1: is where Lord Sterne is now and where Nicholas Sterney
58:52
Speaker 1: is at the LESSE, amongst other places. So this lady
58:57
Speaker 1: was talking about the fact that global banking regulation is
59:01
Speaker 1: going to be used as inspiration for the governance of
59:03
Speaker 1: natural systems, which is quite extraordinary. Actually, It's like, what
59:08
Speaker 1: does global banking regulation got to do with the governance
59:11
Speaker 1: of natural systems? And why to get natural systems needs
59:15
Speaker 1: to be governed in the first place. So much stuff
59:17
Speaker 1: in here that's just it really just does not make
59:20
Speaker 1: any sense unless you understand it is as a as
59:24
Speaker 1: a big push to create huge, unprecedented global marketplaces to
59:34
Speaker 1: deliver an industrial revolution that is going to create huge
59:37
Speaker 1: amounts of wealth, unbelievable amounts of well for a very
59:40
Speaker 1: tiny discrete group. And so that was you know, the
59:46
Speaker 1: kind of the kind of pretext of the context of
59:49
Speaker 1: the day. The whole thing was compared day one by
59:53
Speaker 1: this lady Samira Armored. You can see on the left
59:55
Speaker 1: hand side there former Channel four and BBC journalist. She
1:00:01
Speaker 1: opened up by saying that again the question is not
1:00:04
Speaker 1: whether this transition happens, but how and who benefits. Yeah,
1:00:09
Speaker 1: so again this inevitability and then this question of who benefits,
1:00:13
Speaker 1: And basically it's people in the room at Innovation zero
1:00:16
Speaker 1: that want to benefit and a lot of them will
1:00:18
Speaker 1: potentially benefit if this thing happens, and I don't think
1:00:21
Speaker 1: it's going to roll out in the way that they
1:00:23
Speaker 1: think it is. To also use this term that physics
1:00:25
Speaker 1: doesn't care about election cycles, which is interesting, This again
1:00:32
Speaker 1: just feeds into this. This is basically out of the
1:00:34
Speaker 1: hands of politicians and the scientists and the tech CRACs
1:00:37
Speaker 1: are in charge and they've set the direction in travel,
1:00:39
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what you say, mister politician. This
1:00:41
Speaker 1: is all going ahead whether you like it or not.
1:00:45
Speaker 1: This was a fascinating panel. Actually there's some big hitters here.
1:00:48
Speaker 1: So Laura Sands cbe the lady in the red jacket
1:00:53
Speaker 1: you delivered this is formatory MP. She's now chair of
1:00:56
Speaker 1: the Government's Energy Data Task Force, chair of something called
1:00:59
Speaker 1: the Green a Lion, a chair of the British Standards
1:01:02
Speaker 1: Institute's BSI, their advisory board on net zero. So again
1:01:06
Speaker 1: that's British standards metrics, all about compliance setting templates for
1:01:13
Speaker 1: how industries are structured, like right down to the absolute
1:01:16
Speaker 1: ense detail of how organizations have to operate. She basically
1:01:21
Speaker 1: came up and said that the technocratic argument has failed
1:01:25
Speaker 1: because essentially they have failed to sell this agenda to
1:01:30
Speaker 1: the mass population. And she's basically saying, we've got to
1:01:33
Speaker 1: go after hearts and minds. You can't just have this
1:01:35
Speaker 1: technocratic argument, which was quite funny because it was very
1:01:39
Speaker 1: clearly of a point. Is dig at the chap to
1:01:43
Speaker 1: her left in the picture as we're looking at here,
1:01:45
Speaker 1: who is the Lord Turner, A dear Turner who has
1:01:49
Speaker 1: previously very famously said I am a technocrat. So he's
1:01:52
Speaker 1: very happy and proud to be a technocrat. And she's
1:01:56
Speaker 1: saying the technocratic argument has failed. And Turner is a
1:02:01
Speaker 1: fascinating creature. So he was actually the first chair of
1:02:03
Speaker 1: the Climate Change Commission from twenty eight to twenty twelve.
1:02:08
Speaker 1: He's now chair of the what's called the Energy Transitions Commission,
1:02:12
Speaker 1: which is a really important organization again right at the
1:02:16
Speaker 1: top of the pyramid, and that is convened and supported
1:02:20
Speaker 1: by something called systemic which is where Lord's part of
1:02:24
Speaker 1: where Lord Stern directs his time and attention and extracts
1:02:27
Speaker 1: his influence and wealth from. And Turner was he's a fast,
1:02:36
Speaker 1: very sort of old fashioned kind of creature. And he
1:02:41
Speaker 1: was really upset because he said that social media is
1:02:47
Speaker 1: undermining the coherence of public debate, which is to say
1:02:51
Speaker 1: that we've got all these troublesome people saying things that
1:02:55
Speaker 1: don't align with our version of reality and truth and
1:02:59
Speaker 1: this is really terribly difficult and bothers theme because you know,
1:03:03
Speaker 1: we should just be able to tell people exactly what
1:03:05
Speaker 1: to do. This is the mindset that you're dealing with here.
1:03:08
Speaker 1: And he strikes me as one of these people that
1:03:11
Speaker 1: he only understands reality via surveys. So he's constantly talking
1:03:14
Speaker 1: about data, where we have data on this and data
1:03:16
Speaker 1: on that. What he means is public opinion surveys because
1:03:20
Speaker 1: they don't actually know to kind of talk to anybody,
1:03:23
Speaker 1: you know, they don't know any real people. Then on
1:03:29
Speaker 1: the right inside of stage there you've got many Cobans.
1:03:31
Speaker 1: This is the political side of the equation. And I've
1:03:36
Speaker 1: reported on Coban a lot before. He was the founder
1:03:39
Speaker 1: of this organization called My Life, My say MLMs, which
1:03:42
Speaker 1: is a supposed youth charity which is about increasing youth
1:03:46
Speaker 1: engagement in the political process. They were with the people
1:03:50
Speaker 1: behind the Votes at sixteen program, and they just so
1:03:54
Speaker 1: happened to be rather lavishly supported and backed by the
1:03:58
Speaker 1: Tody Blair Institute, the Rothschild family, and they work out
1:04:03
Speaker 1: of an MI six facility in East London, and I
1:04:06
Speaker 1: could go on and on about them. And he's definitely
1:04:09
Speaker 1: being groomed as a potential future leader of the left,
1:04:13
Speaker 1: potentially even a future leader of the country. To be
1:04:15
Speaker 1: honest with you, at some point in the future, I'm sure,
1:04:18
Speaker 1: I'm sure he thinks that. And he's one of Selik
1:04:22
Speaker 1: Kahn's top lieutenants. He's Deputy Mayor for the sustainability in
1:04:27
Speaker 1: the environment and basically he's there building this kind of
1:04:33
Speaker 1: neo Marxist eco populist narrative to generate democratic consensus around
1:04:42
Speaker 1: the industrial transition. The people like a debta and I
1:04:45
Speaker 1: want to drive humanity into And it was very much
1:04:53
Speaker 1: making this a sort of us and them things. So
1:04:55
Speaker 1: he say, you know, Trump and Farrage, they don't want sustainability,
1:04:59
Speaker 1: and constantly talking up Sadik Khan in his really obsequious
1:05:03
Speaker 1: way about his historic, unprecedenting third term for the mayor
1:05:07
Speaker 1: in London and YadA, YadA, YadA. So anyway, that was
1:05:11
Speaker 1: a fascinating panel. We then add these ladies. I won't
1:05:17
Speaker 1: go into all of them, but you focus on Emily Shukba,
1:05:21
Speaker 1: who's the one immediately to the right of Samira Ahmed,
1:05:27
Speaker 1: who's on the left hand side with the microphone, to
1:05:29
Speaker 1: the one that lady immediately to her right. There's Emily Shukba, who,
1:05:33
Speaker 1: amongst other things, is a trustee on the advisory board
1:05:38
Speaker 1: of the Quadrator Climate Foundation, which is a City of
1:05:42
Speaker 1: London based investment funds. It's like a perpetual profit making
1:05:48
Speaker 1: machine that is just pumping tens hundreds of millions of
1:05:55
Speaker 1: dollars into the kind of climate agenda, ostensibly for the
1:05:59
Speaker 1: benefit of holy humanity, but they also just happen to
1:06:01
Speaker 1: be making quite a lot of money on the other
1:06:03
Speaker 1: side of that too. And actually I've got a little
1:06:06
Speaker 1: video clip of Emnie Schuckba who said when she was
1:06:10
Speaker 1: on stage that she's passionate about the climate crisis.
1:06:18
Speaker 5: So as a country, we have a clean energy superpower
1:06:22
Speaker 5: mission and that has two components of it. One is
1:06:25
Speaker 5: clean power by twenty thirty and the other is net
1:06:27
Speaker 5: zero by twenty fifty. And that's mission is really channeling
1:06:32
Speaker 5: our efforts to create the industries of the future, to
1:06:36
Speaker 5: create the jobbers of the future, and in doing so
1:06:39
Speaker 5: generate both energy security but also help tackle the climate crisis.
1:06:48
Speaker 5: So we know that to really stimulate the innovation ecosystem
1:06:54
Speaker 5: for driving clean technologies, we need to have three things.
1:06:58
Speaker 5: We need to have policy certain we need to have
1:07:01
Speaker 5: a pipeline of innovations, and we need to have that
1:07:04
Speaker 5: collaboration between the public sector and the private sector across
1:07:07
Speaker 5: a range of things including finance. What we're doing is
1:07:11
Speaker 5: later this year, as the Department of Energy, Security and
1:07:14
Speaker 5: let Zero, we're going to be launching our clean Tech
1:07:17
Speaker 5: Innovation Challenges, which are exactly to help support that ecosystem.
1:07:22
Speaker 5: Of course, all three of those different dimensions to accelerate
1:07:26
Speaker 5: those solutions that are going to deliver real world impacts.
1:07:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, so public private partnership, and she kind of alluded
1:07:39
Speaker 2: there to just these huge slugs and money.
1:07:41
Speaker 1: So we showed the National Wealth Fund in that original
1:07:44
Speaker 1: video of me walking around on the exhibition floor, but
1:07:51
Speaker 1: there's just an extraordinary amount of taxpayer money just flooding
1:07:55
Speaker 1: into this space at the moment in order to create
1:07:59
Speaker 1: an artificial marketplace.
1:08:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
1:08:03
Speaker 1: What's really important to understand is that the public money
1:08:07
Speaker 1: is not going to extract Taxpayers aren't going to get
1:08:10
Speaker 1: a huge benefit from this. Yeah, like the real profit
1:08:13
Speaker 1: is going to go to international capital.
1:08:15
Speaker 2: It's just the.
1:08:19
Speaker 1: Public money is used to essentially show commitment from the
1:08:26
Speaker 1: government towards a particular market structure, so that the capital
1:08:33
Speaker 1: investors have confidence that the regulatory environment is going to
1:08:36
Speaker 1: stay consistent. As she said, right, we want policy certainty
1:08:40
Speaker 1: in one of the ways that they can give capital
1:08:46
Speaker 1: certainty or confidence in the fact that there is certainty
1:08:49
Speaker 1: around policies by putting a load of taxpayer money into
1:08:51
Speaker 1: the marketplace to see fund it.
1:08:53
Speaker 3: Right.
1:08:54
Speaker 1: And I've got another clip here of the head of
1:08:58
Speaker 1: another one of these organizations that were many many organizations
1:09:02
Speaker 1: like this inside the British government is another one, the
1:09:05
Speaker 1: British Business Bank.
1:09:07
Speaker 3: Louis, What is.
1:09:07
Speaker 6: The British Business Bank doing in the space of green innovation.
1:09:11
Speaker 7: Well, there are three things we're doing. The first is
1:09:13
Speaker 7: we're providing SMEs with the information they need to help
1:09:16
Speaker 7: decarbonize their operations. Because the lack of Information's are big
1:09:20
Speaker 7: issue here is getting companies going second thing we're doing
1:09:23
Speaker 7: is we're helping to finance that transition for small businesses
1:09:26
Speaker 7: to cleaner energy, whether it's in vehicle fleets going electric
1:09:30
Speaker 7: or whether it's retrofitting their buildings to use less energy.
1:09:33
Speaker 7: And then the third thing we're doing is we're investing
1:09:36
Speaker 7: in innovative businesses developing the solutions that will develop a
1:09:39
Speaker 7: low carbon economy.
1:09:41
Speaker 6: And we saw the British Business Bank's budget being increased
1:09:44
Speaker 6: by two thirds at last year's spending review. How is
1:09:47
Speaker 6: that money going to flow out into the economy.
1:09:50
Speaker 7: Well, you're absolutely right, we've got a big increase in
1:09:52
Speaker 7: the financial capacity. Four billion of that is going to
1:09:55
Speaker 7: be focused on the eight Industrial Strategy sectors, of which
1:09:58
Speaker 7: clean energy is one, but actually sustainability is something that
1:10:02
Speaker 7: runs right through all of our investment activities. But we're
1:10:05
Speaker 7: going to be increasing the amount of money we're investing
1:10:08
Speaker 7: in the UK economy by two thirds, and we're going
1:10:10
Speaker 7: to be making sure that that money is going all
1:10:14
Speaker 7: around the UK, not just into London the Southeast. So
1:10:18
Speaker 7: it'll be a material change.
1:10:19
Speaker 6: And so what does that actually look like in terms
1:10:21
Speaker 6: of tangible impact once you've deployed that money.
1:10:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, So what it looks like is we're likely over
1:10:27
Speaker 7: the next five years to support about one hundred and
1:10:30
Speaker 7: eighty thousand new businesses. We're going to create help create
1:10:34
Speaker 7: three hundred and seventy thousand new jobs, and we're going
1:10:37
Speaker 7: to be making sure that the regions get a really
1:10:41
Speaker 7: good slugg of this, backing in a bit of companies,
1:10:44
Speaker 7: so it'll have a big impact. Sixty eight billion pounds
1:10:47
Speaker 7: of growth for the economy is what we're aiming to generate.
1:10:51
Speaker 1: Helping SMEs to decarbonize, so is basically getting small businesses
1:10:55
Speaker 1: to engage in this industrial transition, which they probably wouldn't
1:10:59
Speaker 1: do with the influence of organizations like this, financing that
1:11:03
Speaker 1: through loans basically, So this is taking taxpayer money and
1:11:07
Speaker 1: then giving it back to taxpayers, probably at a rate
1:11:10
Speaker 1: of interest. There'll be some grants in there as well, right,
1:11:13
Speaker 1: But it's a Britige, the British Business Bank. This is
1:11:16
Speaker 1: an extraordinary distortion of what the state is and is
1:11:19
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing investing in new businesses. What is
1:11:24
Speaker 1: the government doing investing in new businesses in order to
1:11:26
Speaker 1: create a new market. It's good nothing, It's none of
1:11:28
Speaker 1: their business, right, So this idea that we are investing
1:11:32
Speaker 1: in the UK economy, you're not investing in the UK economy.
1:11:35
Speaker 1: The only reason that you have any money in the
1:11:37
Speaker 1: first place because you've taken it from taxpayers. You can't
1:11:39
Speaker 1: then give it back to taxpayers and say, oh, look
1:11:41
Speaker 1: at us, we're investing in you. Why didn't you just
1:11:44
Speaker 1: not tax us in the first place. That would have
1:11:46
Speaker 1: been a good idea. He's going to create one hundred
1:11:49
Speaker 1: and eighty thousand new businesses three hundred and seventy thousand
1:11:51
Speaker 1: new jobs. Ludicrous, completely ludicrous. And then another important organization
1:11:59
Speaker 1: with all the woes Innovate UK, who are UK Research
1:12:05
Speaker 1: and Investment UKRI, who were one of the main people
1:12:09
Speaker 1: was spoken about earlier, who are.
1:12:13
Speaker 2: Helping to operate this event. One of the key partners.
1:12:17
Speaker 1: They're part of Innovate UK and we're going to just
1:12:20
Speaker 1: have a little listen now to one of their I
1:12:22
Speaker 1: think he's their investment chief talking about what they're up to.
1:12:30
Speaker 8: So Innovate UK exists the funds of frontier technologies that
1:12:34
Speaker 8: come out of the business population. So taking there's great
1:12:37
Speaker 8: ideas that we see in academia and taking them into
1:12:39
Speaker 8: market and commercialization. We do that through a range of things.
1:12:42
Speaker 8: So we have grants, which we're traditionally known for, but
1:12:45
Speaker 8: we also provide aligned investment alongside equity capital, and we
1:12:49
Speaker 8: provide debt finance as well as part of our broad offer,
1:12:52
Speaker 8: alongside expertise access.
1:12:54
Speaker 2: To infrastructure in the market.
1:12:59
Speaker 8: So one of the big challenges, of course is that
1:13:01
Speaker 8: when you bring any novel technology to market, what you
1:13:04
Speaker 8: really are doing is exposing yourself to risk of unknown
1:13:07
Speaker 8: opportunities and unknown markets. Innovate UK exists to sit in
1:13:10
Speaker 8: that space, to take that risk, to prove out the
1:13:12
Speaker 8: technology and to bring expertise to bear on that. So
1:13:15
Speaker 8: we make people market ready for the next stage of growth.
1:13:22
Speaker 8: So Innovate UK assesses the quality of the innovation, We
1:13:26
Speaker 8: look at the quality of the team behind it, and
1:13:28
Speaker 8: then we work with companies to make sure they have
1:13:30
Speaker 8: access to supply chains and capital that helps and get
1:13:33
Speaker 8: over those inflection points to prove out that their technology works.
1:13:37
Speaker 2: That's sort of what we're here for.
1:13:43
Speaker 1: So you've got the state operating like a financial services organization,
1:13:49
Speaker 1: taking risks with taxpayer money in order to scale new
1:13:54
Speaker 1: businesses and new technologies. It's not what the government's for,
1:13:59
Speaker 1: it's not we're supposed to be doing. It's extraordinary this
1:14:02
Speaker 1: kind of this blurring of the lines between government and
1:14:05
Speaker 1: finance and industry into this this essentially this integrated one
1:14:10
Speaker 1: world system, right what we're talking about here. So uh
1:14:16
Speaker 1: and as I said, that's just two. So what we
1:14:18
Speaker 1: looked at National worldth Fund, British Business Bank, Innovate UK
1:14:22
Speaker 1: were there were a team of these things across the
1:14:26
Speaker 1: government and actually that guy there, Scott O'Brien was saying
1:14:29
Speaker 1: when he was on one of the panels that he
1:14:31
Speaker 1: was having a conversation with the Chief Secretary to the
1:14:33
Speaker 1: Treasury where essentially that they want to create a single
1:14:36
Speaker 1: integrated proposition to businesses and people looking for grant funding
1:14:44
Speaker 1: where there's essentially no wrong front door. Wherever you go
1:14:47
Speaker 1: into the government in looking for money, they'll be able
1:14:50
Speaker 1: to pass you around to the right person in order
1:14:52
Speaker 1: to get you the grant funding, all the loans and
1:14:54
Speaker 1: whatnot that you need.
1:14:55
Speaker 2: Nothing.
1:14:56
Speaker 1: Government shouldn't be anywhere near this. Yeah, it's absolutely crazy
1:14:59
Speaker 1: that it's even got to this point. To be honest
1:15:01
Speaker 1: with you, we're two now, So let's just have a
1:15:06
Speaker 1: quick look at this panel. So this is the second
1:15:08
Speaker 1: day was run by this chat. Dave Shuckman, who's the
1:15:12
Speaker 1: former BBC Science Editor is now involved with the Grant
1:15:15
Speaker 1: Minstitute of the London School of Economics. Again where I
1:15:18
Speaker 1: said a lot of this stuff is being coordinated from
1:15:21
Speaker 1: interesting panel. There's a guy from the Fire Service there
1:15:24
Speaker 1: on the right hand side who was basically again talking
1:15:27
Speaker 1: about this cross sectors collaboration in order to improve resilience
1:15:31
Speaker 1: across society. Right, so this is very much getting into
1:15:36
Speaker 1: the emergency services, it security services. There are probably some
1:15:41
Speaker 1: military people there. I'd imagine that certainly on the agenda
1:15:44
Speaker 1: has set out by Innovation the zero itself. But the
1:15:47
Speaker 1: interesting lady there was Emma Howard Boyd cbe who's just
1:15:51
Speaker 1: sitting next to Shuckman center left there with the flowery
1:15:54
Speaker 1: dress on a we're talking about this idea that we
1:15:56
Speaker 1: want to target zero deaths from climate and zero.
1:16:00
Speaker 2: Deaths, how does that even happen?
1:16:04
Speaker 1: You can't target zero deaths and how are you even
1:16:06
Speaker 1: attributing any death to climate change?
1:16:08
Speaker 2: Right?
1:16:09
Speaker 1: And if you're going to try a name for zero deaths,
1:16:12
Speaker 1: what are you going to end up doing in your
1:16:13
Speaker 1: society in order to try to deliver that. It's very
1:16:16
Speaker 1: much like zero COVID. We must reach zero COVID. But
1:16:19
Speaker 1: in order to get to zero COVID, we have to
1:16:21
Speaker 1: lock down the whole of our society and destroy everyone's
1:16:25
Speaker 1: lives in pursuit of trying to protect their lives. You know,
1:16:28
Speaker 1: it's just complete lunacy. There's a little clip of her talking.
1:16:36
Speaker 3: Right now.
1:16:36
Speaker 9: We have literally decades ahead of us where we're going
1:16:40
Speaker 9: to see an increasing amount of climate shots. So it's
1:16:44
Speaker 9: important in every decision we make from an investment perspective,
1:16:48
Speaker 9: from a personal perspective, that we're thinking about building in
1:16:53
Speaker 9: resilience to the heat waves, the floods, the droughts that
1:16:56
Speaker 9: we know we're going to see, rather than locking in
1:17:00
Speaker 9: that vulnerability.
1:17:07
Speaker 1: Decades of climate shocks and heat waves and floods and
1:17:11
Speaker 1: droughts change the whole society to stop from happening.
1:17:13
Speaker 2: Everything's gonna be terrible, all right.
1:17:15
Speaker 1: This is the kind of tone that we're getting, particularly,
1:17:17
Speaker 1: i'll be honest with you, from from the sort of
1:17:19
Speaker 1: the female delegation, And this is very heavily being led
1:17:22
Speaker 1: out by by female voices, female leaders.
1:17:28
Speaker 2: Who have kind of the.
1:17:30
Speaker 1: Way I see it is the sort of weaponization of
1:17:32
Speaker 1: the of the maternal instinct, the protective instincts.
1:17:36
Speaker 2: We've got to we've got to wrap.
1:17:37
Speaker 1: Everything up in cotton wall and stop people from from
1:17:40
Speaker 1: hurting themselves because the world is scary and terrible and awful,
1:17:43
Speaker 1: and actually, you know, it's that kind of mentality that's
1:17:46
Speaker 1: been harnessed by the establishment in order to drive this
1:17:50
Speaker 1: whole thing forward. I'll be honest with you, and actually
1:17:52
Speaker 1: I'll come back to her in a moment, because she's
1:17:55
Speaker 1: part of an international network of female leaders who are
1:17:59
Speaker 1: very much of the at the forefront of all of this.
1:18:02
Speaker 1: Another lady of extraordinary influenced this lady Lucy U, very
1:18:07
Speaker 1: very very influential, very smart, been following her for quite
1:18:11
Speaker 1: some time. She's the CEO of something called the Center
1:18:13
Speaker 1: for Net Zero, which is part of Octopus Energy Group.
1:18:17
Speaker 1: Octopus hugely important UK state backed British company, not massively
1:18:28
Speaker 1: backed by the state, so it's a private company, but
1:18:30
Speaker 1: they do have some investment from the British government. Essentially
1:18:34
Speaker 1: makes them a national champion, but very much run out.
1:18:37
Speaker 2: Of the city and.
1:18:41
Speaker 1: Very successful in the UK, expanding internationally. They've got a
1:18:45
Speaker 1: whole bunch of businesses under that Octopus Octopus umbrella, not
1:18:49
Speaker 1: least the one called Kraken, which essentially is the operating
1:18:52
Speaker 1: system for the new digital energy grid. And I'm very
1:18:58
Speaker 1: concerned about that organization, right.
1:19:00
Speaker 2: Idea that you're going to put control of the whole of.
1:19:02
Speaker 1: Our energy grids and and and and and and also
1:19:08
Speaker 1: other countries into the onto this single digital platform controlled
1:19:12
Speaker 1: by the people that control it is the extraordinarily dangerous
1:19:16
Speaker 1: thing for us to be doing. You're talking about risk. Yeah,
1:19:18
Speaker 1: don't do that, all right. And Lucy us involved with Octopus.
1:19:23
Speaker 1: She's in non executive something called E three G which
1:19:26
Speaker 1: is run by a former Blair guide and this is
1:19:29
Speaker 1: all back by Chathamhouse and lots of other organizations that
1:19:34
Speaker 1: are kind of operating in this space. She Lucy he
1:19:38
Speaker 1: is also advisors to Tony Blair Institute. She's the chair
1:19:41
Speaker 1: of the Wikipedia Foundation in the UK as well. So
1:19:44
Speaker 1: she's you know, very much involved in that control over
1:19:47
Speaker 1: what you can see and hear and what is and
1:19:49
Speaker 1: isn't true. And I'll tell you now it was fascinating
1:19:52
Speaker 1: to see her in person because she was exordinarily arrogant,
1:19:57
Speaker 1: unbelievably arrogant, very very clever, great, but you know, the
1:20:03
Speaker 1: tone and the attitude is just extraordinary. And her boss
1:20:06
Speaker 1: was also there, who was Greg Jackson, who's the CEO
1:20:09
Speaker 1: of Percentage, and I've got a little clip of him
1:20:11
Speaker 1: which we'll listen to.
1:20:12
Speaker 2: Now.
1:20:17
Speaker 10: I think we're at a purvosle point and energy. Frankly,
1:20:21
Speaker 10: you've got the fossil fuel industry emboldened by you know,
1:20:25
Speaker 10: the US is called to drill, baby drill. And at
1:20:27
Speaker 10: the same time, and particularly coming from Asia, we've got
1:20:30
Speaker 10: an astonishing pace of electrification. You know, everything for electric
1:20:34
Speaker 10: vehicles to solar panels, driving down the cost of getting
1:20:38
Speaker 10: from A to B, hitting and cooling homes and running
1:20:41
Speaker 10: industry amazing. The Innovation Zero is ninety percent of the
1:20:48
Speaker 10: online news coverage of the entry transition is negative, and
1:20:52
Speaker 10: yet two thirds of the public sentiment is still positive.
1:20:56
Speaker 10: And that's why I hear at Innovation Zero it is
1:20:58
Speaker 10: absolutely buzz saying with people who know what the future
1:21:02
Speaker 10: looks like.
1:21:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg Jackson, CEO of Octopus, I'll tell you what.
1:21:12
Speaker 1: He was actually more impressive in person, and I thought
1:21:14
Speaker 1: he was going to be. There's something about the way
1:21:16
Speaker 1: he talks when he's when he's on video. He just
1:21:19
Speaker 1: seems incredibly disingenuous and almost like it's scripted. And actually
1:21:24
Speaker 1: I think I said when I covered this event briefly
1:21:26
Speaker 1: on the news last year, that I thought he was
1:21:27
Speaker 1: reading from a script. Actually he was pretty good on
1:21:31
Speaker 1: his feet, he was on a panel, and I was
1:21:33
Speaker 1: quite impressed. But I don't agree with anything that he's
1:21:37
Speaker 1: doing professionally. I don't think we need this octopus thing.
1:21:40
Speaker 1: Definitely don't see the cracking is good, particularly not that
1:21:43
Speaker 1: new guy that he got in to run out the
1:21:45
Speaker 1: old IDF operative.
1:21:47
Speaker 2: He looks like to me.
1:21:49
Speaker 1: And yeah, So anyway, these are some of the personalities
1:21:53
Speaker 1: some of the individuals, and you kind of get a
1:21:55
Speaker 1: sense of what they're talking about. So that's on the
1:21:58
Speaker 1: market side of it. And then so a few key
1:22:03
Speaker 1: points about the well, actually I'll just show you one
1:22:09
Speaker 1: particularly important civil servants, right, so basically the top the
1:22:14
Speaker 1: top level, the top guy in terms of the energy
1:22:18
Speaker 1: transition in the UK is Chris Stark. Chris Stark, sorry cbe,
1:22:25
Speaker 1: who is the second from the left on the image
1:22:28
Speaker 1: here on this panel. Who's the head of Mission control
1:22:31
Speaker 1: for Energy twenty thirty appointing to that position by Aed
1:22:34
Speaker 1: Miller band. He is the man pulling the strings, calling
1:22:39
Speaker 1: the shots for the for the energy transition in the UK,
1:22:41
Speaker 1: doing all of the central planning for the new grid.
1:22:46
Speaker 1: And he actually even described it as my clean power system,
1:22:51
Speaker 1: my clean power system. Mister Stark Krai Ke, that's a
1:22:55
Speaker 1: bit arrogant. And also he described his clean power system
1:23:00
Speaker 1: as in terms of the way that we use it
1:23:03
Speaker 1: would be that there would be a signal given from
1:23:06
Speaker 1: the center of the power system which would tell us
1:23:09
Speaker 1: when we were allowed to use energy, or when it
1:23:11
Speaker 1: would be cheaper to use energy, or when it'd be
1:23:13
Speaker 1: most appropriate for us to do things in our home.
1:23:16
Speaker 1: And I remember sitting there thinking, I don't want to
1:23:19
Speaker 1: do that. If I want to put the washing on,
1:23:21
Speaker 1: I want to put the washing on. I don't want
1:23:23
Speaker 1: to wait until four o'clock in the morning when you've
1:23:25
Speaker 1: told me that it's most appropriate to do so, or
1:23:28
Speaker 1: some digital signal could gets sent down which allows me
1:23:31
Speaker 1: to turn on my smart washing.
1:23:33
Speaker 4: Me.
1:23:33
Speaker 1: Shit, the whole thing's ludicrous, completely ludicrous. One of the
1:23:38
Speaker 1: things he did acknowledge, which I thought was quite interesting,
1:23:40
Speaker 1: was that we are going to need all in gas
1:23:43
Speaker 1: and actually we're going to need those even within the
1:23:47
Speaker 1: transition plans, we're going to need those up until twenty fifty,
1:23:49
Speaker 1: which then does beg the question why on earth are
1:23:51
Speaker 1: we shutting down our own oil fields. Yeah, we should
1:23:54
Speaker 1: be exploiting those as long as possible and our coal
1:23:57
Speaker 1: fields quite frankly, and he drew my attention to something
1:24:02
Speaker 1: called the strategic spatial energy planning process, which he called
1:24:08
Speaker 1: the most important thing happening in the UK right now.
1:24:11
Speaker 1: So this is what it is, strategic spatial energy planning.
1:24:16
Speaker 2: And I'll put a little video clip.
1:24:21
Speaker 1: I'll put a links to all of this stuff by
1:24:23
Speaker 1: the way, so you can go and you can go
1:24:24
Speaker 1: and watch it yourselves. Also crucially, mister Stark is as
1:24:31
Speaker 1: well as being having a CB and being head of
1:24:34
Speaker 1: Michigan Control of Energy twenty thirty, he's also part of
1:24:37
Speaker 1: the leadership group for this thing which is called MURMUR,
1:24:41
Speaker 1: which is described as Arts Leadership for the Crisis of
1:24:44
Speaker 1: our Times from their website. MURMUR was created to harness
1:24:47
Speaker 1: the extraordinary cultural power of music and the visual arts
1:24:50
Speaker 1: to take on the most existential threat of our time,
1:24:53
Speaker 1: climate breakdown. This is a really important organization. Yeah, this
1:24:58
Speaker 1: is how they are running the propaganda to take the
1:25:03
Speaker 1: hearts and minds, particularly of the young people, to be
1:25:06
Speaker 1: influenced by their favorite pop stars and musicians and to
1:25:11
Speaker 1: kind of own and control that that side of the conversation.
1:25:16
Speaker 1: All right, So Stark is running that. He's also on
1:25:19
Speaker 1: the board of the VNA Dundee. I think he's Dundee
1:25:22
Speaker 1: where they're just opening the Victorian Albert Museum. And actually
1:25:25
Speaker 1: that kind of coalescence between politics and industry, which is
1:25:31
Speaker 1: Stark's day job, and then culture is absolutely crucial, right
1:25:36
Speaker 1: because without getting particularly the youth on board with this,
1:25:41
Speaker 1: then the whole agenda is going to come to a
1:25:45
Speaker 1: grinding halt. And so I'll do a much deeper expiration
1:25:48
Speaker 1: of Murmur at some point in the not too distant future.
1:25:52
Speaker 1: And then finally, just to wrap up on what I
1:25:55
Speaker 1: saw at the show, I want to destraw attention to this, guys.
1:25:58
Speaker 1: Is Paul Dickinson hosting a panel on the left hand
1:26:02
Speaker 1: side of the stage there alongside Patrick Topping. And then
1:26:05
Speaker 1: there was another lady called Rihanne Mary Thomas, who I'm
1:26:09
Speaker 1: pretty sure some MATHSBC so big investor, And this is
1:26:13
Speaker 1: where Nigel Topping came out and talked about the idea
1:26:16
Speaker 1: that there are fortunes to be made here, and actually
1:26:19
Speaker 1: admitted that they'd spent a lot of time meeting with
1:26:21
Speaker 1: sustainability officers in banks and other corporations and having lovely
1:26:26
Speaker 1: meetings and then nothing ever happening. And then they realized
1:26:28
Speaker 1: that in order to make things happen, you've got to
1:26:31
Speaker 1: go to the banks with an opportunity to make profit.
1:26:35
Speaker 1: And they talked about this idea of green bonds in
1:26:37
Speaker 1: order to unlock capital, and a bond is a debt
1:26:39
Speaker 1: based instrument which means basically borrowing billions trillions in order
1:26:45
Speaker 1: to buy these new technologies which are basically completely unnecessary
1:26:49
Speaker 1: in large part, but are going to indebt us and
1:26:53
Speaker 1: future generations so that capital investors can make trillions of profit.
1:27:00
Speaker 1: Basically what these people are promoting, mister Topping, they're Nigel Topping, No, sorry,
1:27:07
Speaker 1: not Topping. Mister Dickinson. He's a big spokesperson for the
1:27:12
Speaker 1: whole climate agenda. He's a co host of this thing
1:27:15
Speaker 1: called the Outrage and Optimism Podcast. He was a founder
1:27:18
Speaker 1: of something called the Climate Discloser Project CDP, which again
1:27:22
Speaker 1: is just in one of these compliance operations, like you
1:27:25
Speaker 1: have to tell us what you're doing, and you have
1:27:26
Speaker 1: to comply to international standards and just a way of
1:27:29
Speaker 1: forcing the market into doing what these people wanted to do.
1:27:36
Speaker 1: In a previous not not on stage here, but in
1:27:39
Speaker 1: a previous piece of communication from Outrage and Optimism, they
1:27:42
Speaker 1: had the quote that no one should have the rights
1:27:44
Speaker 1: to the algorithmic promotion of their climate denial, which basically says,
1:27:48
Speaker 1: if you disagree with us, then you shouldn't be able
1:27:51
Speaker 1: to share your information on social media. I mean, these
1:27:53
Speaker 1: people are extremely censorious, basically dictatorial, right, And he wants
1:27:58
Speaker 1: to unlock an industrial revolute shouldn't he actually used that
1:28:01
Speaker 1: term we did we did one industry revolution. How do
1:28:03
Speaker 1: we do this one? That's what they're really pushing towards.
1:28:07
Speaker 1: And they also, crucially Paul Dickinson says that there was
1:28:12
Speaker 1: a strong coordinated government action in response to COVID. When
1:28:16
Speaker 1: will we see a similar approach to the climate crisis.
1:28:19
Speaker 1: So they want a COVID style, fully coordinated, a political
1:28:26
Speaker 1: and an industrial push to to force us into compliance
1:28:33
Speaker 1: with the agenda that these people have set out for us. Yeah,
1:28:38
Speaker 1: because we're not doing it quick enough for them. And
1:28:42
Speaker 1: you know, as smooth and as charming as mister Dickinson's
1:28:47
Speaker 1: public persona is actually he's just a nasty little dictator
1:28:52
Speaker 1: at heart, quite frankly. And actually I will draw your
1:28:56
Speaker 1: attention to a few other organizations which are really important
1:28:59
Speaker 1: in terms of contact was going on around this. That
1:29:01
Speaker 1: kind of coalescence between the approach towards COVID propaganda and
1:29:07
Speaker 1: climate propaganda was crystallized in this organization, the Global Commission
1:29:13
Speaker 1: for Post Pandemic Policy, which essentially was an international body
1:29:19
Speaker 1: set up in twenty twenty one or twenty two where
1:29:23
Speaker 1: they looked at how the lessons learned from COVID and
1:29:27
Speaker 1: how they could be applied to climate explicitly. Yeah, so,
1:29:33
Speaker 1: how's a highness global policy and media, in particular narratives
1:29:37
Speaker 1: in order to in order to coerce and manipulate populations
1:29:42
Speaker 1: into compliance with totalitarian outcomes. Yeah, and I'll do a
1:29:47
Speaker 1: much deeper dive on that organization, but you should just
1:29:50
Speaker 1: be aware of it. And then just finally to wrap
1:29:52
Speaker 1: up few other organizations that you should be aware of.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: The first one is this one. So this image is
1:30:02
Speaker 1: Emma Howard Boyd, who I spoke about earlier. You can
1:30:05
Speaker 1: just see on her lapel there on the left hand side,
1:30:08
Speaker 1: that's a dandelion. So she is a dandelion. Dandy Lions
1:30:11
Speaker 1: and global network of female leaders who are pushing forward
1:30:16
Speaker 1: the climate agenda beyond national boundaries.
1:30:19
Speaker 2: Without any respect for.
1:30:26
Speaker 1: National political systems the rest of society. Like they're just
1:30:31
Speaker 1: going ahead and pushing this whole thing forward from behind
1:30:33
Speaker 1: the scenes in a very deceptive and frankly dis on
1:30:37
Speaker 1: his way, but of course for the common good. And
1:30:42
Speaker 1: then in similar fashion, you've got this thing which I've
1:30:45
Speaker 1: spoken about a lot on the news, spoken about the
1:30:47
Speaker 1: Dandelions on the news as well. I'll put links to
1:30:49
Speaker 1: previous reports you can go and find out more about them.
1:30:52
Speaker 1: But this organization National Emergency.
1:30:54
Speaker 2: Briefing, which is in the.
1:31:01
Speaker 1: In train right now, so launched in November last year.
1:31:04
Speaker 1: It's been pushed ahead by Chris Packham, another cbe command
1:31:08
Speaker 1: of the British Empire right when talked about the British
1:31:11
Speaker 1: Empire earlier, was behind a lot of this, which presents
1:31:15
Speaker 1: itself as this kind of organic program that's being pushed
1:31:18
Speaker 1: forward by cash strapped NGOs and people who just want
1:31:23
Speaker 1: the best for the country. And you know those poor
1:31:27
Speaker 1: climate sciences who just aren't getting enough support at the moment,
1:31:30
Speaker 1: but actually in reality it's got loads of institutional backing,
1:31:34
Speaker 1: and not least through organizations like the Climate Reality Projects.
1:31:38
Speaker 1: You can see at the bottom of this slide on
1:31:40
Speaker 1: the right hand side center bottom center with the green
1:31:43
Speaker 1: bit in the logo, which is our Gore right, and
1:31:46
Speaker 1: it's been set up with money that he's made from
1:31:48
Speaker 1: his extraordinary investments in climate technologies. And if you dig
1:31:56
Speaker 1: into it, Our Gores was involved in the Stranded Assets
1:32:02
Speaker 1: program working alongside the Rothchild family, which I talked about
1:32:06
Speaker 1: with Brian Breeve recently when we talked about the Escape
1:32:10
Speaker 1: Key essays. So a lot of this is actually linked
1:32:12
Speaker 1: right up into the top top tiers of international finance,
1:32:15
Speaker 1: what Jeffrey Epstein was doing with the Gates Foundation.
1:32:19
Speaker 2: And actually it's.
1:32:22
Speaker 1: Very very murky territory that we're getting into here, and
1:32:25
Speaker 1: this is basically what sits behind the whole climate agenda.
1:32:29
Speaker 1: London is absolutely the epicenter. So I'm sitting here on
1:32:32
Speaker 1: the eighteenth of June. Coming up next week we've got
1:32:36
Speaker 1: London Climate Action Week, which is a really important focal
1:32:40
Speaker 1: point for the development of these policies.
1:32:44
Speaker 2: The NGO territory.
1:32:45
Speaker 1: You should know about this This is the funder commitment
1:32:48
Speaker 1: on climate change, which is led by the Association of
1:32:52
Speaker 1: Charitable Foundations, where they've got one hundred and thirty three
1:32:55
Speaker 1: charities and foundations in the UK representing forty percent of
1:32:58
Speaker 1: grant funding across the UK, to sign up to this
1:33:00
Speaker 1: climate agenda. So this is how control is being exerted
1:33:05
Speaker 1: over the charity sector. And then finally I'll just draw
1:33:09
Speaker 1: your attention to Clintel, who is a fantastic organization who've
1:33:13
Speaker 1: been pushing back on the climate narrative, talking about the
1:33:15
Speaker 1: fact that even some of the many of the top scientists,
1:33:18
Speaker 1: including Nobel Prize winners and various other top tier people
1:33:22
Speaker 1: in academia have said that there isn't a climate crisis
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Speaker 1: and actually this whole thing is a complete scam, and
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Speaker 1: I've got to say that I would completely agree. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: thanks for watching. That was Innovation Zero and a bit
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Speaker 1: of a run through of my view on the climate crisis,
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Speaker 1: supposed crisis, and a bunch of the key players and
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Speaker 1: things that are going on in the UK here and
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Speaker 1: internationally from a political perspective, from a financial perspective, and
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Speaker 1: no doubt there'll be much more to talk about this
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Speaker 1: in future, but for now, thanks for watching, take care,
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Speaker 1: see you later.