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Coming up on this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast is Kendrick Lamar milking
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the success of his battle with Drake. Billboard crowns Nazi's debut album Illmatic as
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the greatest rap album of all time, and my thoughts on new albums by
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Eminem and Common and Pete Rock. Hip hop is alive and well, y'all
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just take it all in. That's all do. I gotta say pause for
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that. Let's do it. Welcome to jipp Hop Now podcast. As if
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inscription of this episode, big shout out to those who have watched the past
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couple of episodes where I've done, you know, hip hop lists that I
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literally never do. I did a best of twenty twenty four so far,
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and we want to talk about that a little bit later because that list is
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going to look very different come the end of the year. So all of
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that content is dead. Tale of the tapes, which we'll be returning very
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soon. I'm just trying to make sure y'all saw what I already did.
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You know, you gotta can't just keep doing videos and people ain't check out,
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you know, the other stuff. So a lot of content there before
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I begin. Before I begin, first and foremost, this episode is dedicated
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to my mother, who passed away on July third of twenty twenty four.
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She was at the age of seventy four. Obviously, I am everything she
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made me, obviously, but for those who don't know, my mother was
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most raising four kids throughout life, and you know, my father wasn't really
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there. So a lot of what you get for me comes from my mother.
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Things I say, my attitude, I think a number of things my
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cousin comes from my mother's So I just want to dedicate this to her.
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She I am because of her, and you know, obviously people are gonna
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lose their parents, some earlier than others. I appreciate the time I had
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with my mother, and I appreciate all the things she showed me to get
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me to this point so that I can pass it on to people I come
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in contact with and with my children and stuff like that. So again,
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rest in peace, Mama. Now getting into the business there and had big
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shout out to hip hopdx dot com, all hip hop dot com and Brosures
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for Head, sometimes random social media dude who posts hip hop YouTube and a
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couple of places where I get some of my stories from. Let's get right
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into the business. So I took a week off. I don't think anybody
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blinked because nobody said, hey, it was a new episode, so cool.
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But in that week I took off. Kendrick Lamar dropped Not Like Us
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video. Me and my wife watched it. First, watched the video a
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couple of times. We thought the video was just so dope, just the
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way it was shot. Then we watched some reactions and obviously there was the
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social media stuff. I posted some things on social media when it happened,
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and there was one thing that was popping up in the minds of hip hop
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heads and I quote on social media, probably Drake fans who just wanted to
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stop. But they were saying Kendrick Lamar is milking this battle, and some
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are even going as far as saying milking it because he needed it, he
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needed a hit, or he needed that, and it just kind of backhanded
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compliments and ways of saying he only has because of Drake, which is so
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untrue, so untrue. Now, I'm not going to get into the battle
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whatever, because I've done that in past episodes. Kendrick one, you don't
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like it, get out now, well let me even not I have a
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debate and just go on with our lives. But it is milking this situation.
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I can't agree with that. And one of the reasons why I find
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it difficult to believe any part of that is because Kendrick already has a certain
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level of success prior to this battle. Anyway, Let's not pretend like when
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he drops, the hip hop world attention to what he's doing, regardless if
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they like it or not. The hip hop world checks in people who drop,
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and nobody knows and nobody cares, and they have a lot of fame,
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like I feel like Game Game Catalog, and sometimes he could drop a
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very dope album, most people don't care, and he has a certain level
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of celebrity and that's just what it is. But Kendrick was already a star,
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he was already platinum, He already won several brands. I believe he
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has more than Drake. And this is not to get at Drake because my
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Drake fandom hasn't stopped. There's some things I questioned about him as a man,
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but I don't know. I didn't throw all my Drake music away as
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a result of this battle. So my feelings about it is literally as a
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spectator. And to be honest, Kendrick, who also has a pulitzer,
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is he's already received the flowers. I feel like his dig disciography is solid.
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He doesn't have a whack out. He may have albums that you prefer
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more than hell good Kid, Mad City will always be at the top of
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my list when it comes to uh my albums. So milking it as if
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he needed it. When he just left TD not too long ago and started
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his own label and was able to gain some success with that label and his
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brother Baby I mean not his brother, his cousin, Baby King. What's
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what? Why we need milk? And at the end of the day,
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I chalk it up as y'all don't know what it's like when real music and
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artistry gets popular. It's infectious, y'all. See, they are a sect
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of fans who think because everybody's talking about something and it's popular, that it's
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great. And that's not the same. Not all celebrity or popular songs of
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music or artists are created equally, right. I think Kendrick said it the
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best. Drake is a very popular, successful and probably almost a bigger celebrity
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than Kendrick, Right, But let's just look at them both as being highly
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successful and being celebrities. Kendrick said it. I make music that electrify him.
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You make music that pacify it. Now, nothing wrong with a little
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pacifying music because I like a little bop, a little groove or whatever.
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You know, it doesn't have to be that deep. I can enjoy that
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type of music from Drake and enjoy something like miss them around the Big Steppers
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that's deeper, and it doesn't have to be either or for me. So
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what they're looking at now is you aren't here for jay Z and Nas Young
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And let me just tell you real quick, there are some people who deny
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it, but trust me, they in a room by themselves. Well it's
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a couple of them in a room, but not enough. Okay. Jay
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Z was king of New York at this point. He was dropping the album
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every multiple hits, the videos, he was making money. He just could
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not miss. He was the biggest artist at the time. Didn't matter what
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Cosey was on, he was that successful. He got into this battle with
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Nas etha dropped and because it was so earth shattering everything that was being said,
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and because Nas that was doing it. That's the difference is who's doing
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it. It's not exactly what's being said, whether it's true or not.
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It's because it's Nas. It's the guy, it's the golden Child's the chosen
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one. It's the Illmatic. Like jay Z doesn't have an Illmatic. He
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doesn't have an album that has that level of admiration. Now, Jays he
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has classics, and so does Nas, but ill Magic is different. Illmatic
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affected people in a way that extends beyond just classic, right, and jay
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Z just doesn't have that and he didn't have that at that time. So
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it was the fact that it was that guy saying these things about the popular
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artists that it made it. It made the impact greater. And it's the
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same thing that's happening right now. It's the dissection. It's the rollout that
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Kendrick Lamar did that informed the people to a degree we don't know what's true
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or not about Drake And it was almost like Easter eggs where you can just
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go and find the truth yourself based off of Kendrick just exposing it a little
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bit similar to push your tea with his son, right, boom, you
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got a son, Why try to hide him? And then now we all
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see him and no, oh he did have some So it's stuff like that
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where Kendrick Lamar is the perfect artist to do this to Drake. He's the
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only one that could. Rick Rosse couldn't do this to Drake. He lacks
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the skill, he lacks the integrity. And I'm not trying to say nothing
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negative, but the integrity that comes along with Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick Lamar is
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respected on a whole nother level from all of those artists I name. So
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the fact is him going back in that bag from before he was famous,
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makes it dope and it's a bop and the videos creative and it's a community
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thing. And he gathered people in in a way that didn't just try to
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turn them against Drake. He just pointed out things that people could say,
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like, yeah, I wouldn't do that. He not like us game over.
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So when you say he's milking it, sure everybody's done it ain't gun
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Kelly put out a dope disc record if you ask me against eminem And I
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thought Killshot was cool, but I just messed with the machine gun Kelly thing.
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But he didn't even wait for that paint to dry. He was like,
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I'm announcing the tour, new album, blah blah blah. That was
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milking it. But why wouldn't you right if Drake defeated Kendrick because of who
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Kendrick is, Drake would have rode that horse. He would have milked that
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joint. And some may say, oh, well, you know he don't
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need the milky, Yes he dude, because Drake is not in hip hop
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boss. Some cats don't even put Drake on a list. They don't care.
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Ghost Riders and all that day go on the list for Drake out prove
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himself at the ultimate level, Like here's my pier. Here's somebody who y'all
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respect artistically, lyrically, y'all give them more awards than me. Y'all give
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him a pulitzer, and I'm about to rip him down on some hip hop
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stuff. He would have milked that. He wouldn't. He would have took
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the crown and been like boom, I'm I'm the king. But it ain't
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happened that way. So for those who are not used to being a fan
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of someone competitively and having them lose, like I was, I'm a Lebron
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fan. He ain't win no. Eight championships, but he THEMN there.
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He'd been to the finals like eight years in a row. I think it
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was. So there were plenty of years where I got to it was four
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years where I got to celebrate as a fan, and I told you,
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oh and blah blah blah, And it was like four other years or whatever
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it was, or ten. I think he did ten years straight where I
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you know, I just had to take the l and all the haters rose
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up and I told you he garbage. He been garbage, you know,
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say all kinds of things that aren't true. You just got to sit there
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and take it unless you want to argue everybody. So with that being said,
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it's not gonna be over. The milking will continue. Why because it
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feels fantastic as a video. I can see it when in awards as a
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video and the song is so crazy it's it at least has to be nominated,
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right. It depends on what it beats, you know, then it
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becomes debatable if it's a better song than another song, but it just has
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to be nominated because it's that, it's that largest, it's I mean,
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I've been spending a lot of time on this, but it's really done so
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much as far as like social media trending and stringen not even box, people
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remixing and blah blah blah and reactions and people breaking down his Easter eggs.
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The song is just I've just never seen this in a battle way. One
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of the disc records becomes a hit record, like people forget the words,
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like what they're saying, like when you got minor saying a minor when part
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of you as an adult feels like I don't think they should be singing this.
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The song gotta be nominated. So there you have it. Billboard crowns
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nazismag as the greatest rap album of all time. I'm pulling this from Hip
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Hop d X dot com. Obviously, Billboard put out of this, but
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Nas screenshoted his top spot and said thank you the Billboard and the people will
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hear on Ellmannic for those watching who wanted to know what the other ones were,
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Naza's nineteen ninety four debut beat out the seminal albums like Doctor Dre's The
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Chronic, Lauryn Hill's The Miseducation in the Lauryn Hill. I don't know why
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that is there because they ain't a lot of rapping on the album. But
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whatever appointment of Biggie's Life after Death, Tupac's Old Eyes on Me, Snoop
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Dog's Doggie Style, every being around, Chem's Paid the Full, jay Z's
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The Blueprint, and slick Ricks The Great Adventures is slick Rick. I mean,
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I've given my I get the rest of the list is kind of crazy,
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and we're not doing that today. But I've given my feelings about Illmatic,
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and I think my my feelings about it a little different because of how
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close to the situation I was. If you don't know, go watch old
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episodes. It was my cousin. I grew up around Nins. I know
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him, Okay d end Right. So at the time, Illmatic was something
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different from me. It was written is probably more when I became like straight
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up a fan of nas like yoh nah, he's dumb. Nice, But
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ill Matic did something to the culture. I watched. I watched people around
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me, I watch friends, and I watched people in Queensbridge. When that
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joint dropped, it just was different. Man. It felt like rap was
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being taken from one era and just forced being forced moving to whatever. It
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was just that crazy. And I know a lot of people it's just to
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go to when they say number one. What I do like about this top
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ten? The only one I would live out the top ten is Laurence Hill's
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album because it's just it's more singing than rapping on it, So it's it's
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not a rap album to me, Like Drake got albums where he rapping more
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than that on it. They're not as good. But I'm just saying,
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but the other the other here, like I can't for what they're going for.
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These were these were huge albums. Culturally, HOWK Big Dre Snoop.
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I mean, Lauren Hill was too. I just don't think it's enough rapping
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every being rock King and definitely Slick Rick and even jay Z's the Blueprint because
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even though their albums, I listened to more from jay Z's catalog that I
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almost never go back to Blueprint, to be honest, at the time,
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that might have been jay Z's peak. Blueprint, you know, that might
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have been his peak. Either stopped that peak, but before either was that
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was peak jay Z. That was all the things that he's done right all
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in one album. But I find myself skipping a lot now of certain songs.
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So who knows. It doesn't mean a classic you can't skip. But
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I'm saying so, I don't know. Do you feel like not Illmatic is
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hands down the number one rap album of all time? I know a lot
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of old heads who may not agree, like honestly I would. I would
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take out Lauryn Hill and put run DMC's Raising Hell in it, right,
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Like run DMC got to be in the top ten. They have to be,
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you know, one of those groups, Run DMC, NWA or Public
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Enemy. Pick one of one of those three need to be in there.
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But I know this was a staff list at Billboard, and in some ways
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I think they got a lot right in the top ten. But as you
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go outside of the top ten, it gets really murky and it gets really
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funny. So these lists, I get why they do them. I don't
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get as upset as I used to because it's a bunch of different opinions and
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you don't know the demographic of age, the makeup of the people on staff
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because they say staff and you think music. They know what they're talking about.
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But in some cases, I mean, it could be a younger staff
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and this is the list, whereas you would think there would be more you
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know, Kendricks and people like that and it so I don't know. Man,
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Do I feel like ill Madic is the greatest hip hop album of all
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time? I don't think so. I think some of those albums, even
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though the beats were crazy at the time, I feel like there are albums
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that were just more polished body a body of work that was more polished.
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Right. Ell Maadic was a collection of songs. It just so happened that
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it was his young MC with his style, and he was nice and he
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had some of the greatest hip hop producers at that time on this album,
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whereas their album's produced on this list like Doggie Style, produced primarily by one
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guy and maybe some dad stuff, but just so cohesive sonically. How it
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was laid out so and yeah, like, I mean, you could even
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put the WU in here rather than Laurence Hill's album. So I don't know
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what do y'all think? Aromatic number one again not surprised, leave your comments
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in a common section below. And lastly, so y'all, this was This
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was like the gift in the curse of a show to have to do,
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mainly because Jill, what is this today? July thirteenth. July twelfth,
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twenty twenty four, we got Eminem dropping an album that's a slim shady throwback
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called The Deficit Slim Shady, cooled g H. We have Common and Pete
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Rock teaming up to drop an album what is it The Auditorium Just a nice
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East day the Auditorium. We heard the singles. It was crazy. They
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went for an old school kind of nineties vibe, but Pete Rock really he
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really mixed some familiar samples and sounds to perfection. And then we got Blue
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and Evidence, which I haven't listened to yet, who notoriously are solid with
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the music they put out, l putting out a new single produced by a
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Q Tip that's just flawless. Like it's a great time for hip hop,
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and we're coming off a battle that was great and everybody celebrating, like off
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the year that was hip hop's fiftieth birthday on fifty one before fifty one,
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because August is the birthday. Were just getting on of this stuff that speaks
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to hip hop and bars and real music, real music that matters right real
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You could tell the artist thought about it. None of the fly by Night.
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I'm gonna name the same things. I'm gonna have a stupid hook and
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I'm gonna twork or I'm gonna just throw money at the camera. Nah,
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like Substance right and Variety and who I Name. Like those three albums alone,
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you can listen to them all because they all kind of work because it's
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variety. So with that being said, let's start with Eminem The Death Slim
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Shady Ku de Gras. It is nineteen tracks deep, with some of those
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tracks being skits, comes in in about an hour and ten minutes. It
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did not seem like the album was that long, but it was. And
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my up front is I am pleasantly surprised. Pleasantly surprised now as a hip
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hop fan, I love concept albums. The first single, Whudini, did
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not do it for me. I said it on the show, if that's
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what the whole album is, I'm already gonna tell you now. I think
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it's whack, right, But I didn't know until I heard it. I
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didn't think that's what it was. But I just didn't think he needed to
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go back to that well of the goofy slim shady thing. But whatever press
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play on this album. That's literally the only song on this album that sounds
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like that. Everything else was bars and controversy, and the concept is Eminem's
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getting rid of slim shady. We gotta kill him. He's not politically correct,
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says the wrong things. So a lot of the controversial things that are
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being said in here, especially about Christopher Rees, are coming from some Shade
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character, and the Eminem character is saying, you can't save Minji. You
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gotta say little people. One of the things I like about this album,
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like, for one, if you understand that this is a concept, then
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don't go looking for boom bap, and there's bars. There's bars in here.
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The first song, Renaissance sets the tone of Eminem came to act,
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and that's what I like most about it. It's not the new Eminem with
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the fast double time, no, No, it's it's the dude that was
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on rockets and rapping, you know, like the underground Eminem appears on here
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heavily. But again it's slim Shady, So there's a lot of you know,
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jabs at people like Jay Rule and stuff like that, but it's all
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within a concept. And I remember when I'm just getting the checklisted and I
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saw a guilty count too, and I was like, nah, don't make
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a part two to that. At that time it was pretty dope. You
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had never seen that dreams your humorous light, leave it alone. But the
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way Eminem flipped it, I was like, oh okay. And essentially it's
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it jobs with the concept of the album. Instead of him and Dre,
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it's Eminem and Slim Shady talking to each other. And what I do like
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about all craziness about transgenders and pronouns and things that the Slim Shady character says
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with ease to offend and getting canceled and wanting to get canceled. The voice
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of Eminem, who's the mature on the other side of life person is talking
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to that character and it's saying the opposite how he truly feels. So it
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was a very clever way to be the Eminem he was that was really offensive,
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but teach people that that wasn't right and character to bed once and for
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all. So I really like it from a concept standpoint. There's some tracks
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where I was like, Yo, this beat is high and Eminem spitting,
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and I'll just say that if you are a Eminem fan, I think you're
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gonna love this album. If you were an Eminem fan and after maybe the
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Eminem Show, you kind of checked out and you really haven't listened to any
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of the albums. He's had some good albums since then, but he's had
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some major misses. Also. This is one of the good ones. If
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you asked me, I love the way it was done. It's a dope
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conceptual album. Real quick. I just want to say standouts for me.
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First track Renasance Evil, the song Anti Crisis, It's clactic, but it's
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dope. Road Rage is dope. Guilty Conscience too. He even has a
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song I forget what the name of it is. It's called Temporary, uh,
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dedicated to his daughter Hayley, who if you are an Eminem fan,
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you just used to how he was using Haley, So it was kind of
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dope to see this reflection, uh, And it was it was like the
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Eminem from the album Recovery, where he was just opening up and being honest
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about his life and himself. So again, it's gonna it's gonna be tough
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because this is the type of album that I'm talking about as far as craftsmanship
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that you know, makes the top five for me. At the end of
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the year, we'll see if it gets there, but right now it's it's
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a heavy candidate for that. And I just want to say lastly on that,
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if you've never liked Eminem or we don't play Eminem in the hood,
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we don't play Eminem in the barbershop. If you press play, you only
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came to hate, because there's nothing here that's going to convince you to I
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mean, if you're curious, just press play. But there's nothing here that's
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going to convince somebody who's never got into Eminem to now get into Eminem.
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If it does then that's even better. But I would just say this is
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kind of for the fans of eminem if you understand what slim Shady character has
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been and all that in the history, this is a pretty dope album to
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listen to, so they have it. When it comes to the Peat Rock
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and Common album, the Auditorium Valuable One, this is about fifteen tracks.
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There's an oultro. I don't know if there's another skit I can't remember,
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but there's definitely an oultro on here clocked in. I ain't ben gonna hold
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y'all this in my top five and that's with Pete Rock's production alone. When
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I tell you Pete Rock is flawless on this album, this is you know,
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it's like this is like Group Holme's debut album all over again, but
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it's Pete Rock and Common is a better MC than them. Pete Rock lace
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Common with some of the dopest beats that tug on the nostalgia strings, but
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aren't just loops at a certain vibe and it's variety, That's what I mean.
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Some dudes just let me nod and boom back, like let me stay
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in that lane, and they don't want to. They don't want to.
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They're too far off the road when it comes to that. But this is
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just like Pete Rock needs to be producing for more high profile artists. Hands
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down, there's no way a jay Z, a Jadakiss styles of nas push
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t no way they hear this and don't say to themselves. I at least
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got to get one Pete Rock joint on this new album. I think Pete
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Rock should have a lot of checks coming in the mail. They won't come
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in the mail, but you know what I mean soon, because that is
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the standout for me. Now when it comes to Common, if you felt
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like yo, I ain't like the Common album since whatever years ago, more
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than ten years ago, I would say there's been good album since then.
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They're not bad, but lyrically, I feel like Common is in the pocket
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as he should be. I think there's some records where the beat just out
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Sean's Common, like you could have literally put anybody in there because that beat
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is so hot, and he didn't really do much beyond what we expect from
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him to stand out. Like. I don't want to take anything away from
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the album, but for me, it felt like Pete Rod knew The Spotlight
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was going to be there, so he showed out. He popped out and
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showed all right. Common raised himself a little bit more closer to what he
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used to be, but he didn't surpass my expectations, or he didn't feel
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the way I felt like with Nas and Hip Boy, where I felt like
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Nas is rejuvenated. I feel like Common is rejuvenated to an extent, but
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it doesn't it doesn't come out as much lyrically. Some songs he's crazy with
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it. Other songs it's kind of like, I feel like there are words
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that Common just says the time, where now they just sound meaningless from the
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soul like how many times you're gonna say soul man Like? Not that what
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he said wasn't powerful, meaningful, It's just that you kind of you've been
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listening to this guy for so long that you just have a certain level of
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expectations for a second. Again, none of this is bad, It's just
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an observation of it. So I would say, if you like Common,
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you long for the years of when Common was straight up boom back. Dude,
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this is your time to hop in fan, because this is the album
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you've been waiting for. If you didn't even know Pete Rock was making beats
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like this because you hadn't heard of Pete Rock beat since the mid nineties.
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Well you're welcome, because now you need to go check pe rock other material
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because pe Rock variety beats skill like this is no shade. But DJ Premier
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has kind of got to a case where he has a certain sound and that's
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the only sound he can do for you today, and it's going to be
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every record that sounds that way. For the most part. I know Prime
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was a little bit different, but I didn't feel like that was the best
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of Premier's beats. Pete Rock make beats now that make me wonder some of
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these new beats rival old beats, old classic beats he made like it's that
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good. So there you have it. Two dope hip hop albums, very
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different, different listings that you know, if you're interested, I suggest you
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check out. They will definitely be in my top of the year hands down.
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There. That impressive to me on different levels. So have you heard
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these albums? What do you think about them? Leave your comments in a
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of that, Yeah, let them know head check this with me. All
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right until next time, y'all. I'm not a Craig, I'm a fan. Peace.