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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - The More Things Change... The More they Stay the Same · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  Hey, everybody.
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  It's a good thing we had an extra
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  hour this weekend.
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  We had football today.
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  We had maybe the greatest World Series
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  ever.
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  And most importantly,
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  Rogue showed us how it gets done.
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  We're going to talk about all that next
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  Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
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  What's going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to... What a weekend of sports.
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  It didn't say it.
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  It didn't say it.
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  It did, in my ears.
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  I didn't hear it.
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  No.
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  You gotta say it with your voice now.
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  Oh, no.
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  Sunday, Sunday, Sunday night CrossFit.
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  There you go, there you go.
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  Yeah, what a weekend for sports.
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  Friday, Saturday night,
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  I'm up late watching World Series.
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  I hate staying up late now as an
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  older gentleman.
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  Late night sports are not my favorite
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  thing.
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  But the games have been so thrilling in
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  the World Series.
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  And this World Series had more innings
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  played than any World Series in the
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  history of the game.
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  And we have a local Toronto resident here
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  to get her feedback on game seven last
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  night in Toronto.
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  Can we talk first about the game six?
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  Little ball that they just had to do
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  this to the edge of,
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  at the end of, like,
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  the ball thingy that got stuck?
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  In the wedge in the wall.
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  The most unlucky thing and the stupidest
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  rule for how easy that ball was to
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  just grab.
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  Could have ended right there.
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  Could have won it right there.
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  It was so exciting.
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  People counted us out right away when we
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  got to the finals.
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  And I think we won a lot of
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  fans over.
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  I had a lot of people message me
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  that they hadn't watched the Blue Jays,
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  but they were rooting for the Jays during
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  the playoffs for the World Series.
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  I don't know if we won fans over
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  or people didn't want the LA Dodgers to
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  win.
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  I think a little bit.
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  We won some fans over with just the
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  way that our team was playing.
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  And certainly the whole country was behind
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  the Blue Jays.
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  It was awesome.
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  But yeah, a few, honestly,
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  like unlucky breaks.
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  Like we really could have had it.
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  Well, here it is.
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  And I fixed my mic here.
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  And I think it's all better.
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  And that's why you didn't hear the button
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  push because it wasn't connected.
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  So anyway, here's the deal.
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  You had two runners on, one out.
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  You had Vlad on third with one out.
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  All you had to do was get him
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  home, and it's a tie game.
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  That game could have went anywhere.
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  And it was right there for them to
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  win.
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  Yeah.
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  So like to say you're robbed or to
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  say that's the way sports are.
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  Yeah.
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  The table was set.
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  Vlad did what he had to do.
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  And then he just needed hit in.
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  Yeah.
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  And no,
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  it just felt like we got some unlucky
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  breaks.
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  Like Kirk's bat that breaks that ball.
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  I got stuck.
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  Like it just was like, well,
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  that shut up the middle that the Dodgers
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  hit that went like that close to the
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  pitcher's glove.
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  the catch that the,
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  that they made also at the end of
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  the game that were the two players collide
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  and the guy still made the catch.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Yeah.
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  It's.
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  And what's crazy is like in sports,
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  it's the unlike,
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  it's the unlikeliest heroes.
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  It wasn't, um, uh,
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  Shohei that beat the Jays.
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  It was Rojas,
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  like a guy that hadn't hit for a
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  month.
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  It's just crazy.
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  Crazy.
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  Aaron Frazier.
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  I haven't watched any baseball this year
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  until last night.
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  Wild game.
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  Fun to watch.
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  It was so good.
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  Like I love good baseball.
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  It's just, it is a long season though.
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  I love playoff baseball.
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  Right.
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  To get through one hundred sixty two games
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  is really hard.
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  It's too long.
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  So, so we had that.
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  We had the most wild bears game I
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  have ever sat through in my life.
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  go caleb that's my qb i played jamie
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  in fantasy she had my quarterback caleb
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  williams who lit it up he caught a
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  touchdown and like just clobbered me today
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  but the bears and the bengals went back
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  and forth what there was like five
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  fourteen billion points scored in the last
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  two minutes of the game yeah
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  The Bears always lose that game.
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  Always, always, always.
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  And what a throw.
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  Caleb was on and off all day,
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  and then he drills just a seed to
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  Colston Loveland,
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  and both defensive backs bounce off him at
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  the same time,
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  and he goes in for a touchdown to
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  win the game.
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  My neighbors probably heard me yell,
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  holy shit, a block away.
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  Because that just does not happen in my
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  life.
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  But I was up at five thirty this
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  morning because of Rogue and trying to
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  like make it through all this.
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  And I was up late for the World
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  Series.
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  It's man, what a weekend.
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  There was just thank God we had got
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  to turn the clock back an hour or
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  I would be like asleep on the table
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  right now.
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  Judy heard you.
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  Judy heard me in Ostrander.
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  That's a half an hour away,
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  just so people know.
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  Yeah.
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  Back on baseball, Sherry,
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  playoff baseball is the only good
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  baseball.
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  Yeah.
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  It has great memories for me because it's
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  something my dad and I always did
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  together.
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  We would go down to Pittsburgh and hang
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  out and watch Pirate Games.
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  And my dad was that guy that bought
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  the little bag of popcorn and he would
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  sit there and eat it for the whole
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  game.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Yeah, that just, you know,
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  I miss those days.
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  So, anything else exciting?
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  Oh, Jamie,
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  she should have sent me a picture.
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  When Halloween,
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  her family went as the Wizard of Oz.
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  Yep.
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  Which, like,
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  so many people were like Wizard of Oz
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  this year, I feel like.
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  And I don't know, you know,
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  it's kind of that...
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  whatever effect like once you look for
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  something you're going to see it
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  everywhere but i swear to god there was
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  so many scarecrows around me our
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  uh aaron's like best friend from college
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  was their family was wizard of oz so
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  just like so so weird and it's not
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  i don't even know why we just just
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  decided to do it i just i got
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  lucas the lion because lucas you know so
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  i got him a lion costume and then
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  i was like i'll get aaron and i
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  something so i just picked up scarecrow
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  and tin man for us and aaron's nickname
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  at the gym is tin man because he's
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  just so stiff he needs a can of
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  oil that dorothy does yeah
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  Well, the makeup you guys did was out.
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  Did you do that yourself?
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  I did.
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  Yeah.
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  Do you have a picture of it on
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  your Instagram or yeah,
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  I got somewhere in my, I'll try to,
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  um, I don't know.
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  Well, I have like just Lucas and I,
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  it's not,
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  I don't know if you guys can even
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  see it.
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  Yeah.
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  It's so good.
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  He let me paint his face.
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  Everyone's like, oh, my gosh.
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  You're like,
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  everyone's going to think he's a furry.
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  Like, he's, like, really, like,
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  getting to it.
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  Because he was out at a college party,
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  not with us.
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  Yeah.
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  Judy Reed says adorable.
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  It was, like, I showed Julie,
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  and she just was like,
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  their makeup is fantastic.
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  Oh, thanks.
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  I'm, like, not an artist at all.
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  So I was, like,
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  really scared to even do anything.
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  Yeah, it was basic enough, I feel like.
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  right so that was that was our fun
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  stuff of the weekend and then we had
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  the rogue invitational that i have to say
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  did not disappoint um we'll talk about the
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  winners first um on the men's side we
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  had jeff adler come back win again um
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  and then we had laura who has won
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  for her third time
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  And in all seven years of the rogue
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  invitational, only two women have won it,
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  which is mind blowing.
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  It is.
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  And I was thinking about it today.
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  Like I,
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  I respect it that there's that much
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  greatness on the women's side that really
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  it's either been Laura or Tia for the
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  past few years, but man, like,
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  and then you look on the men's side
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  and the leaderboard is just like,
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  all over the place.
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  It would be cool to see that happen
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  on the women's side just a little bit
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  sometimes,
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  but it's just not going to happen until
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  those two are out of the sport or
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  are done with whatever they're doing,
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  it seems.
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  I agree.
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  I mean,
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  there probably is a way to program Laura
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  out of winning,
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  but it would be obvious that
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  That's what the competition was trying to
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  do.
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  I mean,
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  you'd have to make sure there was a
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  big enough handstand push-up.
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  But even then,
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  she showed that even if she takes a
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  dead last place on that type of event,
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  in a nine-event weekend,
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  she typically still overcomes that deficit
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  to win it.
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  Yeah.
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  And with only twenty athletes.
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  Yeah,
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  I think if she would get dead last,
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  she would have gotten second this weekend.
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  That's assuming Kazan won that workout.
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  It was only what, like, eight, seventy,
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  eighty points,
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  like
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  Yeah,
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  but I don't think Laura on the final
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  needed to go and suffer.
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  You already have the win.
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  You're not suffering the way that Lucy
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  needs to suffer on that final or the
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  way that Olivia has to suffer.
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  You're not in the same mindset going in
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  that workout.
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  That's true.
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  I think if her back is against the
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  wall,
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  she's not getting an eighth place in that
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  final.
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  There is no way that she gets eighth.
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  So I really,
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  truly feel like she would have gone...
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  like no issues.
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  She's beating, she's winning.
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  Yeah.
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  Even with a dead last.
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  Yep.
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  Yep.
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  You're probably right.
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  That would be a different,
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  she would have attacked.
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  She already had it in the bag.
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  Like you're not,
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  you're not suffering in that fifty Cal the
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  way that you would be.
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  Uh, Gazan had no reason to suffer either.
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  She really had a second place wrapped up
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  to like, yeah,
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  my take on Gazan and you guys can
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  correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Carolyn does it all weekend when I'm
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  typing in the chat.
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  Yeah.
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  Because I don't know the sport as an
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  athlete,
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  and I love that you guys correct me.
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  But to me, it looked like Gazan,
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  if she wouldn't have had the car accident,
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  she was on a path to really make
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  a statement.
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  And I think what happened this weekend is
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  she was making a statement,
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  and she just hasn't had enough time to
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  get all of the stuff back to conditioning
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  level that needs to.
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  And by the end of the weekend,
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  she looked tired.
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  that makes perfect sense.
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  I mean,
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  that's a lot of volume to throw at
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  anybody,
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  let alone somebody that has had to cut
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  back their training and gradually get back
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  into it.
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  But I think
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  I think she did really well on every
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  event.
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  It's just the back squat one that
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  typically she would have done, I think,
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  better on that volume,
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  just get that under her legs.
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  The running one being middle of the pack,
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  I don't think is anything super out of
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  the ordinary.
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  And the burpee overhead squat one,
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  I don't think she has the same speed
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  as some of the top ones in that
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  workout.
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  So I don't think she's too far behind
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  what she would have normally got.
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  Besides that one back squat event,
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  I think that...
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  um she would be i think a top
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  five for sure correct type of that's the
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  only one that i feel on paper i
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  was like okay she's not quite back to
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  her wfp when she was just starting to
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  um get everything going yeah uh lynn says
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  laura was managing her last events she was
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  smiling as emma was passing her
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  Laura seemed very happy this weekend too.
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  Like last year when she was like on
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  the mic after events,
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  it was a different tone.
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  This week it seemed very,
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  very like gracious and the gratitude for
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  the crowd and the gratitude for Rogue.
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  And like, it just,
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  it seemed like a very happy Laura and
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  that was good to see.
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  I agree with that.
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  Laura was always like that before.
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  Yeah.
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  Like she was a fan favorite, you know,
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  when she won,
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  when she would win the European
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  championships and stuff like that,
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  people really got behind her.
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  And then obviously with the twenty twenty
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  four incident at the games,
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  like the way that every athlete is going
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  to respond to that is going to be
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  different.
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  Um, yeah, she,
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  she definitely looked lighter out there in
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  terms of her mood and just the way
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  that she was answering the questions.
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  It was nice to see, but yeah,
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  I'm a fan first.
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  I think she's good.
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  Uh,
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  Aaron Frasier said she was happy Tia
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  wasn't there.
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  And Shanna says,
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  three hundred grand would make me happy
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  too.
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  All, all true statements.
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  Very much.
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  So let's flip over to the men.
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  Um, and extra sloppy says, I gotta say,
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  knowing everyone, um,
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  who said over and over that Jeff and
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  Justin were washed,
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  are eating their words,
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  feels pretty good right now.
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  If you go back to last Sunday,
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  when I was picking my podium,
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  I picked it because I said three men
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  are extra motivated for this,
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  and it was going to be Jeff Adler,
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  Justin Medeiros, and James Bragg.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  That was one, two, and four.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  James Sprague, we'll start there.
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  James Sprague,
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  every outing since he's won the games has
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  been another peg to make a statement that
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  it was not a fluke and he is
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  here to stay.
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  I thought Justin was back to the
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  consistent...
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  justin that we saw in in his best
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  days and he was happy like he was
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  joking around slapping butts like like
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  take like when they were taking pictures
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  of people he was going up behind them
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  with the like he was just having a
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  good time and i that was good to
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  see and then jeff adler to see him
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  on saturday getting interviewed by kiki
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  and the lack of confidence he still had
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  at that point in the weekend
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  And I'm assuming,
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  and I'm making a large assumption here,
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  that when his injury was his back and
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  what this weekend did to people's backs,
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  I think he was still unsure he was
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  going to make it all the way to
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  the end on Sunday.
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  And I think what happened this weekend and
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  him making it to the end is going
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  to do nothing but elevate him moving
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  forward into next season.
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  I was really happy for both of the
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  podiums.
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  I think that there's great storylines for
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  all six athletes that were on the podium.
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  Yeah.
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  And Roman's little break dance going onto
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  the podium was cute.
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  Lynn, so proud of Justin's running.
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  Also Roman becoming Mr. Consistency too.
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  Yeah, Roman's had a good few events here.
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  After having a disappointing last season,
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  he's having a bounce back.
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  Yeah,
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  I picked Roman a lot lower than he
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  finished.
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  I didn't expect him to be much higher
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  than eighth.
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  He surprised me.
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  The one thing that is a guarantee now,
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  if it's the last event of a competition
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  and it has an echo bike,
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  you better pick Roman.
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  Yeah.
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  Or make your picks.
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  Hey,
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  I was the top ranked media person on
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  Shot Caller this weekend.
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  That is a huge feather in my cap.
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  You're lucky some of us didn't put our
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  picks in.
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  Well, hey,
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  how many times were you with me and
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  I forgot to put my picks in when
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  I was up on the leaderboard?
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  Just saying.
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  I was way ahead of you.
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  Did any of our chats, though,
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  influence some of your picks?
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  I made all my picks the first thing
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  in the morning for all the three events
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  of the day.
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  So the wildest thing was I didn't know
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  what the event seven was going to bed
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  last night.
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  And so I just assumed it was a
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  run.
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  And so I went Adler, Ricky, Emily.
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  And then I woke up at five and
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  saw what it was with the sandbag lunge.
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  And I was like, I'm switching to Lucy.
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  And that was like,
• 18:26
  that was the only one that was kind
• 18:27
  of iffy for me.
• 18:30
  Now, when I had Emma.
• 18:33
  Jeff and maybe James.
• 18:36
  I think I had Jeff and James.
• 18:38
  I didn't think Ricky was going to do
• 18:40
  well because he complained about his calf
• 18:41
  hurting on the one day.
• 18:43
  And I was like, oh,
• 18:43
  he must not be at a hundred percent
• 18:47
  for his running because his calf,
• 18:48
  because remember he almost like,
• 18:50
  was it him that had that like black
• 18:51
  and white story that he may not continue
• 18:53
  on because his calf during the back squat
• 18:55
  event?
• 18:56
  I think it was Ricky.
• 18:57
  I think it was Ricky.
• 18:59
  Yeah.
• 18:59
  So then I counted him out after that.
• 19:01
  I was like, oh,
• 19:01
  he's going to be injured.
• 19:02
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:03
  But then he crushed that workout and I
• 19:05
  was like, oh, you're not injured.
• 19:07
  You probably just had a bad event and
• 19:08
  you want to say something.
• 19:12
  When I told you I'd heard a rumor
• 19:13
  that he was hurt and he was just
• 19:15
  letting it go overnight to see if he
• 19:17
  was able to go the next day.
• 19:20
  But again, none of it was substantiated.
• 19:22
  I just had a I heard a rumor.
• 19:25
  A calf strain.
• 19:28
  There was a – or Shanna said,
• 19:32
  also great to see Heinrich do so well
• 19:33
  after last year.
• 19:35
  It was.
• 19:37
  He looked great.
• 19:40
  Yeah.
• 19:45
  There was something here.
• 19:47
  Can we talk training camps?
• 19:48
  And I know it's always a topic,
• 19:50
  but what's happening at Mayhem?
• 19:52
  We actually had that discussion on Friday.
• 19:55
  I think late Friday I said to the
• 19:56
  group –
• 19:58
  What is going on with Mayhem?
• 20:00
  Other than Paige,
• 20:02
  they didn't look like they were doing
• 20:04
  well.
• 20:06
  And then Ricky turned it around.
• 20:09
  Or not Ricky.
• 20:10
  Roman turned it around.
• 20:11
  Yeah, Roman, yeah.
• 20:13
  But the rest, not so good.
• 20:16
  I mean, did we really...
• 20:18
  I didn't really expect much out of Hayley.
• 20:20
  I never do at Rogue, to be honest.
• 20:22
  But I would have fully expected her to
• 20:24
  do better in Event Seven today than she
• 20:27
  did.
• 20:28
  I mean,
• 20:29
  you have to be able to still capitalize
• 20:31
  on what's supposed to be your strength.
• 20:33
  So I don't know what is going on
• 20:34
  with her because she just seemed checked
• 20:37
  out after day one.
• 20:40
  So Extra Sloppy says,
• 20:43
  didn't Haley drop out of WFP due to
• 20:45
  an injury?
• 20:46
  Maybe she just isn't physically ready,
• 20:47
  especially for a comp like Rogue.
• 20:51
  I don't know that we, I mean,
• 20:52
  it's never been said it's an injury.
• 20:55
  I just assume that she dropped out of
• 20:56
  WFP because she hasn't done the first two
• 20:59
  events.
• 20:59
  So she's like,
• 20:59
  why am I going there for a third
• 21:01
  one?
• 21:03
  Traveling and everything.
• 21:04
  I don't know.
• 21:05
  That's what I assume,
• 21:06
  but maybe there is an injury.
• 21:08
  Who knows?
• 21:09
  Cross that.
• 21:10
  I can't take credit for that.
• 21:12
  I actually picked the blue Jays.
• 21:13
  It.
• 21:17
  And KK has a point.
• 21:19
  Does Haley have a strength anymore?
• 21:21
  I mean,
• 21:21
  I think that's kind of the problem is
• 21:23
  she tried to balance out her weaknesses
• 21:28
  and in doing that,
• 21:30
  you have to like sacrifice the one to
• 21:32
  do the other.
• 21:33
  And I just don't think she's, I mean,
• 21:37
  that's the problem.
• 21:37
  Like when you're a home run hitter,
• 21:38
  you kind of need to keep those home
• 21:40
  runs.
• 21:41
  It,
• 21:42
  You get rewarded so much for high places.
• 21:46
  You can't afford to be just a
• 21:48
  middle-of-the-pack tenth place or twelfth
• 21:50
  place anymore.
• 21:53
  Roman is always the outlier for mayhem.
• 21:54
  He's always been a monster.
• 21:57
  I think Paige Rogers is going to be
• 21:59
  okay.
• 22:02
  I do too.
• 22:02
  Just give her a couple more months.
• 22:03
  I think she's going to be fine.
• 22:06
  And I think she's going to be competitive
• 22:07
  for a top ten spot next season.
• 22:09
  I do too.
• 22:13
  But I don't know about any.
• 22:17
  The Austin thing is weird.
• 22:18
  Yep.
• 22:20
  It just is weird.
• 22:21
  And maybe he's fighting through something.
• 22:23
  We don't know any of that stuff, right?
• 22:25
  Yeah, because like Austin,
• 22:28
  I would have thought like he would have
• 22:31
  done well in the back squat of it.
• 22:33
  Absolutely.
• 22:34
  And then he gets a twelfth place.
• 22:37
  Like the log muscle-up, maybe okay.
• 22:39
  The pegboard, okay.
• 22:41
  Yeah.
• 22:42
  Eighteenth, which one was that one?
• 22:44
  Oh, the duel.
• 22:44
  Well,
• 22:46
  didn't it seem like the pegboard he
• 22:48
  started off really well.
• 22:50
  And they have a lateral pegboard at
• 22:52
  Mayhem.
• 22:53
  And then his grip strength was gone.
• 22:54
  With the volume that Mayhem does,
• 22:55
  it just doesn't seem something that would
• 22:58
  fail on an athlete that is doing well
• 23:00
  in something.
• 23:01
  But maybe he's not efficient at the
• 23:03
  movement.
• 23:04
  He just was getting across it pretty fast.
• 23:07
  I don't know.
• 23:12
  Larry has a point that I partly think
• 23:14
  the field is just that much better.
• 23:17
  And yeah,
• 23:19
  Haley took some time off and it's,
• 23:20
  I don't know that she's ever going to
• 23:22
  be in that top tier again.
• 23:25
  Yeah.
• 23:35
  Paige was on the cusp before and will
• 23:36
  be there again if not already.
• 23:38
  Oh, yeah.
• 23:39
  So, so much.
• 23:41
  People are agreeing with that.
• 23:47
  Let's talk about the broadcast real quick
• 23:49
  because Eric Mackey, whoops,
• 23:51
  that's too read.
• 23:53
  Very professional, of course,
• 23:55
  but I'm so over Sean and Adrian.
• 23:56
  Same old stories, phrases year after year.
• 24:01
  I didn't notice it as much this year
• 24:03
  because I thought the camera angles,
• 24:07
  the cable cam,
• 24:09
  the graphics that Rogue brought to play
• 24:14
  made things so much better that it didn't
• 24:21
  bother me as much this year.
• 24:23
  What I will say is I do miss
• 24:26
  their tailgate party being live during the
• 24:29
  events.
• 24:31
  Cause in the past you could switch back
• 24:32
  and forth between the commentators.
• 24:34
  If you just wanted a different flavor,
• 24:37
  just like on Monday night football,
• 24:38
  you can do Joe Buck and Troy Aikman
• 24:41
  for a quarter,
• 24:41
  then go over to Peyton and Eli for
• 24:43
  a quarter, then back and forth.
• 24:45
  Like in years past, they had that.
• 24:47
  They chose not to do the tailgate that
• 24:49
  way this year,
• 24:51
  but they offered it all for free this
• 24:52
  year.
• 24:53
  So,
• 25:00
  Any thoughts from you guys?
• 25:01
  Or am I out here on a limb?
• 25:02
  I didn't watch any.
• 25:04
  I don't even know how to...
• 25:06
  Can you only find those streams on the
• 25:08
  website?
• 25:11
  They streamed the whole thing on YouTube.
• 25:14
  Right.
• 25:15
  But to get the picture-in-picture cameras,
• 25:19
  you had to do it from the Rogue
• 25:20
  website.
• 25:21
  Yeah.
• 25:21
  See, I'm never going to do that.
• 25:23
  If it's not...
• 25:25
  if it's not an app I can get
• 25:27
  on my TV, I'm not,
• 25:28
  I'm not doing it.
• 25:29
  I'm not watching from my phone or my
• 25:31
  computer screen.
• 25:31
  That's no, thank you.
• 25:36
  The camera angles are so well worth it,
• 25:39
  but I'm not going to like have my
• 25:41
  little computer out and I like put it
• 25:42
  right on my TV from YouTube.
• 25:46
  Well,
• 25:47
  don't you have like a casting from like
• 25:48
  a phone or a,
• 25:50
  I could probably screen screencast.
• 25:52
  Yeah.
• 25:52
  From my phone.
• 25:55
  Just saying.
• 25:57
  In my opinion, it's well worth.
• 25:59
  But I never watched live.
• 25:59
  So how would that work?
• 26:04
  They had the replays available right
• 26:06
  after.
• 26:09
  So if you're comparing another group that
• 26:12
  does it on a website,
• 26:14
  immediately after the event,
• 26:16
  it was up on the site to grab
• 26:19
  the replay.
• 26:20
  Okay.
• 26:21
  Like seconds, it seemed like.
• 26:23
  After the event, you could grab it.
• 26:26
  OK, I thought the broadcast was great.
• 26:30
  The graphics, especially for the duel,
• 26:32
  was awesome.
• 26:34
  It was so professional.
• 26:35
  It's something that you can definitely,
• 26:37
  you know,
• 26:37
  watch on TV and make a little bit
• 26:39
  of a highlight of what's going on.
• 26:42
  And no,
• 26:43
  I loved I thought that this was so
• 26:46
  well done.
• 26:47
  So well done.
• 26:48
  I didn't watch as much of the tailgating
• 26:51
  stuff from Zach Thielander,
• 26:56
  but I did catch up on some of
• 26:57
  the interviews that he did.
• 26:59
  There were like, twenty minutes,
• 27:01
  a lot of them.
• 27:02
  So I think I watched maybe three or
• 27:03
  four of them over the weekend.
• 27:04
  Not as many as the previous tailgating
• 27:08
  stuff, but I enjoyed the interviews.
• 27:13
  they didn't just keep it on the website.
• 27:14
  They put all of the Zach tailgate
• 27:16
  interviews up on YouTube.
• 27:18
  So you can see them either, either place.
• 27:20
  That's where I watched mine was on
• 27:22
  YouTube.
• 27:23
  Yeah.
• 27:24
  I did too.
• 27:25
  Cause the first day that the tailgate tab
• 27:28
  wasn't working on the website.
• 27:30
  So you,
• 27:30
  but you could watch them on YouTube.
• 27:34
  Um,
• 27:37
  And I agree with Carolyn and Sherry.
• 27:39
  The graphics during the duel with the
• 27:41
  bracket was awesome.
• 27:42
  I remember the first year of the duel
• 27:44
  and they had the little placard and they
• 27:45
  would come out and like stick them to
• 27:47
  the magnetic board.
• 27:49
  Like, and they were,
• 27:49
  it was like the plaques were this big.
• 27:52
  Now you have this huge graphic of the
• 27:54
  whole,
• 27:56
  the whole bracket up there and you can
• 27:59
  see who made it immediately.
• 28:00
  It was,
• 28:01
  it made the duel so much better.
• 28:04
  They finally got that right.
• 28:06
  And they added all the names at each
• 28:08
  level, like as they're progressing,
• 28:11
  it was, it was so well done.
• 28:12
  And just like the three D graphics that
• 28:14
  were popping up as well was, was cool.
• 28:17
  But yeah, the,
• 28:17
  the pace of the dual was by far
• 28:20
  the best that they had.
• 28:21
  Yeah.
• 28:22
  Like the men, women, women, men, women.
• 28:24
  Yeah.
• 28:25
  Every issue I've ever had with the dual.
• 28:27
  They got it.
• 28:28
  So, right.
• 28:29
  Yeah.
• 28:31
  Yeah.
• 28:32
  I mean, to me,
• 28:34
  I don't like the duel,
• 28:36
  but they finally did it right.
• 28:38
  So they're going to do it.
• 28:40
  They did.
• 28:40
  They figured it out.
• 28:41
  I just, I don't know.
• 28:43
  I'm just not a fan.
• 28:44
  See, I love, I love the duel.
• 28:47
  I love every version that they've done of
• 28:48
  the duel.
• 28:49
  Basically.
• 28:50
  I think they're exciting to watch.
• 28:52
  They're exciting to do.
• 28:53
  I love them.
• 29:00
  It's just, go ahead, Jim.
• 29:02
  I just,
• 29:02
  they're probably exciting to do as an
• 29:04
  athlete.
• 29:05
  I just,
• 29:06
  and I really don't need the from fifth
• 29:09
  place to second and first.
• 29:11
  I don't need that last round.
• 29:12
  That's just silly.
• 29:14
  I love every bit of it.
• 29:17
  Yeah.
• 29:18
  I love the races.
• 29:19
  Every race has the potential of having a
• 29:21
  trip up and that's,
• 29:23
  that's what's cool about that event.
• 29:25
  And because everything's on the edge and
• 29:27
  we're, we're not here to find the fittest.
• 29:30
  We're here to have a showcase.
• 29:32
  I would say this is the place for
• 29:34
  it, for sure.
• 29:34
  Rogue is the place to do something like
• 29:36
  this.
• 29:38
  And the athleticism it shows.
• 29:43
  When you see like Paige Semenza and Danny
• 29:45
  Spiegel go over and under the way they
• 29:47
  do.
• 29:48
  And Pat Vellner.
• 29:49
  Pat Vellner.
• 29:51
  You can just see who were athletes before
• 29:54
  they were CrossFitters.
• 29:57
  And it's Guy, like Guy,
• 30:00
  that event was made for him,
• 30:01
  except for he always fumbles the bag at
• 30:03
  the end.
• 30:04
  Well,
• 30:04
  I think he hurt his shoulder reaching
• 30:06
  again,
• 30:06
  that same type of thing that he did
• 30:07
  at the Red Bull event that he got
• 30:10
  injured.
• 30:12
  But the way he elevates over that log
• 30:15
  is unreal.
• 30:18
  It's like watching, to me,
• 30:20
  it's like watching a slam dunk contest.
• 30:23
  Like the pure athleticism you see and that
• 30:25
  humans can accomplish is amazing.
• 30:29
  And they try to program it so it's
• 30:31
  not necessarily killing the athletes
• 30:34
  going, you know, going extra rounds.
• 30:37
  Like if you have something that's very
• 30:39
  high volume or very, very taxing,
• 30:42
  it can really play into the rest of
• 30:44
  the weekend.
• 30:45
  This one,
• 30:45
  you could see like the slide was getting
• 30:47
  a little bit heavier as they were going
• 30:49
  on.
• 30:49
  And especially from the grip being tired
• 30:51
  from the pegboard, some people's grip,
• 30:53
  I think was feeling it.
• 30:54
  Like, I don't think Danny had the,
• 30:57
  the the pull in her at the end
• 30:58
  that she had at the start and a
• 30:59
  lot of times their heats would get faster
• 31:02
  in previous years but this time around it
• 31:04
  wasn't necessary getting as as fast i
• 31:07
  think the fatigue was a little bit
• 31:09
  starting to come yep i totally agree on
• 31:11
  the fatigue on the rope pole that was
• 31:14
  catching up with some people i do feel
• 31:17
  like there is something to the achilles
• 31:19
  injuries in the duel i don't know like
• 31:21
  i know they're different but
• 31:24
  I don't know.
• 31:25
  The Achilles injuries last year weren't
• 31:26
  the duel.
• 31:30
  Yeah, that was the duel.
• 31:30
  Yeah, they were.
• 31:31
  That hop over,
• 31:32
  it was up and over that big.
• 31:33
  Do you think it's because people don't
• 31:34
  train on turf?
• 31:38
  It could be that.
• 31:39
  I just don't think people are,
• 31:42
  I think people are landing like on their
• 31:44
  heels.
• 31:46
  And no, and don't, they're not at like,
• 31:49
  no quant landed.
• 31:52
  His knee was Ford and it's the push
• 31:54
  off.
• 31:56
  he was on his toes and he just,
• 31:58
  he,
• 31:58
  there was a slow-mo I think I saw
• 32:00
  online and he just like is on his
• 32:02
  toes and pushing off.
• 32:04
  I mean, that's an athletic injury.
• 32:06
  Like it just happens.
• 32:07
  I agree for a lot of like sprinters
• 32:09
  and jumpers and basketball, football,
• 32:12
  whether it's on the court or the turf,
• 32:14
  but we have seen it for now two
• 32:17
  years on the turf.
• 32:19
  Um,
• 32:20
  I don't think it had anything to do
• 32:21
  with the event,
• 32:23
  but I just know that turf sometimes with
• 32:26
  Achilles,
• 32:27
  just like ACLs with turf for female soccer
• 32:30
  players, for instance,
• 32:31
  that when they make females play on turf,
• 32:33
  like it's just more dangerous.
• 32:35
  Um,
• 32:36
  just cause of the friction and stuff like
• 32:38
  that.
• 32:39
  So interesting to see if that would be
• 32:41
  an issue, but yeah,
• 32:44
  it's also sports and sometimes something
• 32:46
  like that can happen.
• 32:48
  CrossFat,
• 32:50
  Quant landed like he caught a football and
• 32:52
  wanted to run like a jet quarterback or
• 32:54
  a giant wide receiver.
• 32:56
  Pointing out two illustrations of torn
• 32:59
  Achilles or ruptured ACLs.
• 33:03
  MetLife Stadium is known for that.
• 33:05
  Like the turf at MetLife Stadium seems to
• 33:07
  do that to people.
• 33:09
  So I'm wondering if that may be part
• 33:12
  of the problem.
• 33:12
  I don't know.
• 33:14
  But I love the looks of the turf.
• 33:15
  Like it looks great.
• 33:17
  The floor looks phenomenal.
• 33:19
  It's by far the best looking floor from
• 33:22
  any competition.
• 33:23
  It just looks so nice.
• 33:26
  And it looked like the, there was a,
• 33:28
  like,
• 33:28
  it looked sold out just behind the rig.
• 33:32
  The Zeus was maybe a little bit more.
• 33:34
  I saw like empty seats here and there,
• 33:36
  but probably just for viewing purposes,
• 33:38
  there was less people there,
• 33:39
  but the whole,
• 33:41
  the stadium looked packed and loud.
• 33:45
  Larry Young,
• 33:45
  I don't think they are training the all
• 33:47
  out explosive running and jumping.
• 33:52
  They probably don't get it very many
• 33:53
  places.
• 33:54
  They don't.
• 33:56
  And I think Carolyn has said that on
• 33:58
  the show that she wishes that they would
• 34:01
  they would test athleticism more.
• 34:04
  And now they do.
• 34:05
  And then people's bodies aren't.
• 34:07
  Like I would love for them to do
• 34:08
  a four yard dash would love for them
• 34:11
  to do a four yard dash or a
• 34:12
  five, ten, five, ten, five agility.
• 34:15
  But, you know,
• 34:17
  we get the long distance run all the
• 34:18
  time.
• 34:18
  We get the moderate four hundred to twelve
• 34:21
  hundred meters in workouts.
• 34:23
  You never get the sprint.
• 34:25
  And like that's a huge part of like
• 34:26
  fitness.
• 34:27
  Like you ask any type of athlete fitness.
• 34:29
  what their fitness test looks like they
• 34:31
  probably have a some sort of sprinting or
• 34:33
  agility but we don't train it and people
• 34:35
  would get injured people it's too
• 34:36
  dangerous for pulling hamstrings stuff
• 34:38
  like that but like torn hamstrings and all
• 34:41
  and achilles and stuff like that but we're
• 34:44
  not afraid to do a max lift or
• 34:46
  max of different things so it's just
• 34:49
  interesting that our sport of fitness is
• 34:53
  doesn't test that like it's a huge part
• 34:57
  So there was the time when they used
• 34:58
  to do the sprints at the games where
• 35:02
  you'd had to hurdle over the object and
• 35:03
  around the cone and do all, you know,
• 35:06
  the famous Dan Bailey,
• 35:07
  catch the sunglasses as you're,
• 35:08
  you're hurtling.
• 35:09
  And,
• 35:10
  and then the famous one in where everybody
• 35:12
  stepped over the line and got cut.
• 35:15
  Um, because people don't,
• 35:17
  don't train that agility.
• 35:19
  So they couldn't stay in bounds when they
• 35:21
  were trying to cut around the cone.
• 35:23
  Um,
• 35:24
  I do agree with you.
• 35:25
  I do think it should be tested, but,
• 35:27
  and if they did start testing it more
• 35:29
  often, people would train it more.
• 35:34
  I think the,
• 35:35
  I think the leaderboard would change a
• 35:36
  little bit too.
• 35:37
  I just think that's a haves or have
• 35:39
  nots kind of like swimming.
• 35:42
  Like, can you train,
• 35:44
  can you train it up a little bit?
• 35:46
  Maybe, but like, it's,
• 35:48
  it's a haves and have nots in my
• 35:50
  opinion.
• 35:52
  I could say that about any movement.
• 35:53
  It's sort of, but, like,
• 35:58
  it's like pure strength.
• 36:00
  Like, nobody's going to beat Guy.
• 36:04
  They're just not.
• 36:04
  Like,
• 36:05
  you can train to get as close to
• 36:06
  him, but you're not going to beat him.
• 36:08
  Well,
• 36:08
  nobody's going to beat Colton on a squat.
• 36:11
  No.
• 36:11
  No.
• 36:12
  Like,
• 36:13
  just people are going to have advantages.
• 36:14
  But I think it's part of fitness, though.
• 36:16
  Speed.
• 36:17
  Like, testing speed is important.
• 36:19
  Not power output.
• 36:21
  Speed.
• 36:22
  Running speed.
• 36:22
  It's a basic human thing that is always
• 36:26
  tested.
• 36:26
  It's part of fitness.
• 36:29
  Like, people are like, oh, it's not part.
• 36:30
  Like,
• 36:30
  it is part of fitness to be fast.
• 36:33
  It is a desired trait of so many
• 36:36
  sports.
• 36:37
  I just think it's too specific.
• 36:39
  Like I don't, I, like I said before,
• 36:41
  I don't also don't think we should do
• 36:42
  a seven K run.
• 36:44
  Like, I think it's too specific.
• 36:45
  I don't think we should do a single
• 36:46
  lift.
• 36:46
  I don't like single modality things.
• 36:49
  Like, is there,
• 36:50
  unless you're going to do a,
• 36:52
  unless you're going to do a total or
• 36:54
  a combine total of some,
• 36:55
  and you're having all these things that
• 36:56
  you're putting together,
• 36:58
  you can't have all these hundred point
• 36:59
  events that are so freaking specific.
• 37:03
  I'll be right back.
• 37:09
  I kind of disagree with you, of course.
• 37:12
  I think in the events where you have
• 37:13
  a three-day weekend with nine, ten,
• 37:16
  twelve events,
• 37:17
  I think you can't have a single modality
• 37:20
  once or twice.
• 37:21
  Now, if it's a six-event weekend, no,
• 37:25
  it doesn't make sense.
• 37:27
  I think there's a time and place for
• 37:28
  it.
• 37:30
  And at Rogue, it's their showcase.
• 37:32
  They're not trying to find a specific
• 37:35
  thing.
• 37:36
  They're there to showcase what athletes
• 37:38
  can do,
• 37:39
  and they want to highlight the athletes.
• 37:41
  And so however they want to do that,
• 37:42
  I think is fine with them.
• 37:44
  And I think if Guadalupalooza said the
• 37:46
  same thing,
• 37:47
  that'd be fine with them as well.
• 37:51
  But...
• 37:53
  But I do think at the CrossFit Games,
• 37:55
  if you're doing nine, ten, twelve events,
• 37:57
  there is room for some single modality
• 38:00
  stuff.
• 38:02
  Now,
• 38:02
  I know where you like at the Masters
• 38:04
  Games,
• 38:05
  the single modality has taken over the
• 38:07
  competition.
• 38:08
  And we're going to talk about that later
• 38:10
  in the show, for sure.
• 38:16
  I do just want fitness.
• 38:18
  You're right.
• 38:19
  It is CrossFit.
• 38:19
  I would go watch...
• 38:21
  Olympic weightlifting,
• 38:22
  if I wanted to go watch Olympic
• 38:24
  weightlifting.
• 38:24
  I would go watch track and field if
• 38:25
  I wanted to watch track and field.
• 38:28
  But if you look at the pyramid,
• 38:29
  Olympic weightlifting is part of the
• 38:30
  pyramid.
• 38:31
  Yeah.
• 38:32
  Metaballot conditioning is at the bottom
• 38:34
  though.
• 38:34
  So I just want pure fitness.
• 38:42
  The games did try a crappy broad jump
• 38:44
  once.
• 38:46
  That was the weirdest thing ever.
• 38:47
  That's when I first watched.
• 38:49
  What a crazy thing.
• 38:54
  um john george is always going to agree
• 38:58
  with jamie and so i just i know
• 39:00
  it uh lynn carolyn would you do qualifiers
• 39:11
  for rogue i don't know if as a
• 39:14
  previous tester you'd be allowed
• 39:19
  The qualifiers I can do.
• 39:22
  It's just if I were to qualify for
• 39:23
  Rogue, then I can't test the workouts,
• 39:25
  obviously.
• 39:25
  But if I don't qualify, I could test.
• 39:28
  Did you get to test any of these?
• 39:29
  She mentioned that somebody tested the
• 39:31
  deadlift one,
• 39:32
  and I wondered who tested it.
• 39:34
  If no names have been announced from
• 39:36
  Rogue, then I don't know who tested.
• 39:37
  Okay.
• 39:37
  Okay.
• 39:43
  There was Fergie did bring in.
• 39:46
  I probably won't be able to find it.
• 39:47
  There's been so many comments.
• 39:48
  Um, you're the weekly Jamie question.
• 39:52
  Oh yeah.
• 39:54
  And I don't know.
• 39:54
  That's a tough one.
• 39:55
  That's a tough one.
• 39:57
  What is it?
• 39:58
  I can't remember.
• 39:58
  It was,
• 39:59
  if I'd rather watch a win list season
• 40:01
  from the Spartans or Brian friend,
• 40:03
  mansplaining women's CrossFit at me,
• 40:06
  I probably Brian, to be honest,
• 40:07
  I don't want to sit through a win
• 40:09
  list season.
• 40:14
  Did you guys watch the Hiller and Brian
• 40:16
  friend?
• 40:17
  I did.
• 40:17
  I really enjoyed it.
• 40:19
  It was really good.
• 40:20
  It was really good.
• 40:21
  Really good.
• 40:24
  I think that it like,
• 40:25
  that is Brian doing the stats with Hiller.
• 40:30
  And that aspect of it is like Carolyn
• 40:32
  doing a deadlift.
• 40:34
  Like that is just his wheelhouse.
• 40:36
  And when he gets to do that with
• 40:37
  someone else to bounce that off of it,
• 40:41
  it's really, really good.
• 40:45
  Yeah,
• 40:45
  I enjoyed watching their little hour.
• 40:47
  Was it preview of the road?
• 40:49
  Yeah, it was good.
• 40:53
  Yeah, it was real good.
• 40:55
  Was that in Hiller's garage that they did
• 40:57
  that?
• 40:57
  Yeah.
• 40:58
  Yeah,
• 40:59
  he just set up the lifting blocks as
• 41:02
  desks.
• 41:04
  That was great.
• 41:06
  We've already talked about the duel.
• 41:07
  Any other events that really like that you
• 41:09
  enjoyed watching or that you thought could
• 41:13
  have been elevated a bit?
• 41:18
  I mean,
• 41:18
  I feel like a lot of the workouts
• 41:20
  could have been better.
• 41:21
  There was a lot.
• 41:22
  Like,
• 41:23
  the pegboard was the only thing that
• 41:25
  mattered,
• 41:25
  so why didn't we just do pegboards for
• 41:27
  time?
• 41:27
  Or, like, the deadlift.
• 41:29
  Why didn't we just do a deadlift ladder?
• 41:31
  There was a lot of workouts like that
• 41:32
  that I was like, eh, I don't know.
• 41:35
  I don't know that I like these.
• 41:37
  But I get it.
• 41:39
  To be fair, it is Rogue's thing,
• 41:41
  and they did an excellent job.
• 41:43
  I know Katie gets on and says she
• 41:45
  doesn't want to highlight the athletes.
• 41:47
  OK,
• 41:48
  they did an excellent job highlighting
• 41:50
  their equipment.
• 41:51
  Everything looked beautiful.
• 41:53
  They used the machines and like I
• 41:55
  understand the why they program the way
• 41:57
  they program.
• 41:57
  And it was beautiful.
• 41:59
  So kudos to their event.
• 42:02
  They did their job.
• 42:06
  The only one,
• 42:07
  like as a spectator and not as someone
• 42:09
  who geeks out about programming,
• 42:11
  I really enjoyed the whole weekend
• 42:13
  watching the events.
• 42:14
  The only one that fell short for me
• 42:16
  as a spectator was the deadlift handstand
• 42:21
  push-up one.
• 42:23
  It just didn't seem like any of it
• 42:25
  was hard until the last deadlift bar.
• 42:27
  Yes.
• 42:28
  And the handstand push-ups weren't hard
• 42:29
  for anybody.
• 42:31
  No.
• 42:32
  I felt like that was as under-programmed
• 42:34
  as I've ever seen an event ever.
• 42:37
  And that's the only one I would have
• 42:38
  any criticism of as a spectator watching
• 42:41
  the rest of it.
• 42:43
  I loved, I normally,
• 42:44
  I hate an echo bike workout.
• 42:46
  That was exciting.
• 42:47
  And that cyclone black bag was way more
• 42:49
  exciting than I thought it was going to
• 42:51
  be.
• 42:53
  I truly enjoyed even the run event because
• 42:55
  they were able to follow them through the
• 42:57
  arena and,
• 42:59
  you could actually watch it.
• 43:00
  And to see the fans lining the sides
• 43:03
  in Vendor Village,
• 43:05
  if you're a vendor and they're going by
• 43:07
  you and you're getting camera time,
• 43:09
  isn't that, as a vendor,
• 43:11
  aren't you freaking pumped?
• 43:15
  I thought that was awesome.
• 43:17
  I know the plan was originally to go
• 43:19
  outside,
• 43:20
  but I thought it was even better inside
• 43:21
  because of
• 43:24
  Because I don't know what that arena looks
• 43:25
  like.
• 43:26
  I've never been to Scotland.
• 43:27
  Yeah.
• 43:28
  And you kind of get a vibe for
• 43:29
  the whole thing.
• 43:30
  I thought that was awesome.
• 43:34
  um yeah the running indoor was so much
• 43:37
  better i think than had they gone outdoors
• 43:39
  because you just got to follow the race
• 43:41
  so well and then also see how packed
• 43:43
  the inside was um the skier deadlift
• 43:48
  handstand push-up one yeah it would have
• 43:50
  been nice maybe either a deficit there or
• 43:53
  maybe more reps of the handstand push-ups
• 43:55
  but if people say like it's um looks
• 43:58
  like just a workout from the class or
• 44:00
  whatever
• 44:01
  It's pretty cool to see that all men
• 44:04
  deadlifted five hundred pounds,
• 44:05
  every single guy in the field.
• 44:07
  And most of the women still got that
• 44:08
  three fifty.
• 44:09
  That's cool.
• 44:10
  That's a cool number that we get to
• 44:11
  see them all hit.
• 44:14
  If you were slow at transitioning,
• 44:16
  if you were slow on the skier,
• 44:18
  you lost significant time in the workout
• 44:20
  or even if you had slow cycle speed
• 44:21
  of the handstand pushups.
• 44:22
  So while they may not have been as
• 44:26
  relevant as the deadlift,
• 44:28
  you also couldn't be slow there.
• 44:31
  Um, what else would you guys just say?
• 44:35
  I'm trying to think of the, we're still,
• 44:38
  we're still determining whether Austin got
• 44:40
  five hundred or not.
• 44:41
  Did he miss it?
• 44:43
  I missed it.
• 44:43
  It was not intended.
• 44:45
  Well, really?
• 44:46
  No.
• 44:46
  Yeah.
• 44:49
  Of course,
• 44:50
  Hiller has a freeze frame at the top.
• 44:52
  It's really bad, actually.
• 44:57
  And I'm also okay that the bench wasn't
• 45:00
  like a re like ridiculous way where
• 45:02
  everyone's stuck there because there was
• 45:03
  enough weight anyways,
• 45:04
  that you needed to offset maybe a little
• 45:08
  bit with some gymnastics.
• 45:09
  It's just,
• 45:09
  it was skilled gymnastics and
• 45:11
  accessibility gymnastics versus maybe a
• 45:15
  hanging movement,
• 45:15
  toaster bars or ring muscle up something
• 45:18
  that they're more accustomed to.
• 45:20
  Um,
• 45:20
  it was very like all the gymnastics that
• 45:22
  was tested with the log and the peg
• 45:25
  was very skill dependent.
• 45:30
  I really enjoyed it was nice to see
• 45:32
  who weighs what though just like out of
• 45:35
  curiosity because we always talk about you
• 45:37
  know how much people weigh so on the
• 45:39
  men's side like you could see because they
• 45:41
  were exactly a hundred percent body weight
• 45:42
  so it was just rounded within five pounds
• 45:45
  so it was nice to see the weights
• 45:46
  there and then even on the woman's side
• 45:48
  you were just getting an idea of what
• 45:50
  they were lifting I think they were using
• 45:51
  a men's bar for that but
• 45:57
  I love bench press.
• 45:58
  I wish it would have had more impact
• 46:00
  on the event,
• 46:01
  but I was okay with that event for
• 46:03
  the most part.
• 46:04
  Like I would like for the female one,
• 46:06
  like if you had the pegboard,
• 46:08
  it was a good, like you could race,
• 46:10
  right?
• 46:10
  And it was like execution stuff.
• 46:12
  I would like to see for the women
• 46:13
  and if they still want to do five,
• 46:16
  bring those end lines in and make like
• 46:18
  a green line or whatever.
• 46:19
  Like those are the women's ones.
• 46:20
  And it's just a shorter five each round
• 46:23
  versus the full length,
• 46:25
  I think would help the woman because...
• 46:29
  Most of the women got capped, I think,
• 46:30
  besides three athletes.
• 46:32
  I mean, Gazan and Emma were very,
• 46:34
  very close from getting that last section.
• 46:38
  But if those lines were just in just
• 46:40
  a little bit,
• 46:41
  I think that you would get a lot
• 46:43
  more people finish that workout.
• 46:50
  But Laura didn't need the extra lines.
• 46:53
  No.
• 46:53
  She just really kept going with the full
• 46:55
  pegboard.
• 46:56
  No, but that goes back to, like,
• 46:58
  I say this all the time.
• 46:59
  Like,
• 46:59
  people are always calling for things to be
• 47:01
  heavier and just more.
• 47:03
  And it's like,
• 47:04
  just because Laura can do it or just
• 47:06
  because someone in the sport can get
• 47:07
  through it doesn't make it good.
• 47:08
  Like, I don't like seeing,
• 47:11
  specifically like that deadlift event,
• 47:12
  I don't like seeing people get all the
• 47:15
  way through and then just stand there and
• 47:16
  not be able to.
• 47:17
  Like,
• 47:17
  Danielle was fine until the last bar and
• 47:20
  then gets passed.
• 47:20
  I don't like that.
• 47:22
  Then we should have just done a deadlift
• 47:23
  ladder and we would have known who the
• 47:24
  winner was.
• 47:25
  I don't like to look at an outlier,
• 47:27
  though,
• 47:27
  because Danielle's the outlier the other
• 47:28
  way on the deadlift.
• 47:29
  I think you've got to look at the
• 47:30
  middle.
• 47:31
  If the middle is fine and they're getting
• 47:33
  through it, then we're good.
• 47:35
  Danielle's an outlier the other way.
• 47:37
  Just as Laura is on the pegboard.
• 47:41
  I think it goes both ways.
• 47:43
  If the majority are okay with it,
• 47:45
  then I think it's in the range that
• 47:48
  it's okay.
• 47:52
  The pegboard,
• 47:53
  the majority for the females just aren't
• 47:54
  there.
• 47:56
  Yes, the pegboard needed to be shorter.
• 47:57
  Half, I don't know.
• 48:00
  Carolyn and Jamie, DB is five, seven,
• 48:02
  and a hundred and fifty.
• 48:04
  And the other athletes are five, four,
• 48:05
  and a hundred and fifty.
• 48:06
  Should she gain weight for strength?
• 48:10
  I think Danielle crushed the weekend.
• 48:12
  Danielle had two bad events,
• 48:14
  almost dead last on two events,
• 48:15
  deadlift and back squat,
• 48:16
  and the rest were great events.
• 48:18
  She is so fit.
• 48:20
  She's been crushing it this year.
• 48:22
  Yeah, I...
• 48:25
  I think Danielle needs to just continue.
• 48:30
  Like,
• 48:30
  is there an argument to be made that
• 48:32
  she could get stronger?
• 48:33
  Sure.
• 48:33
  But we pushed that on Haley for how
• 48:35
  many years?
• 48:35
  And look what's happening.
• 48:37
  Like, Danielle is...
• 48:40
  Quite well-rounded.
• 48:41
  Is she going to ever win a one
• 48:43
  rep?
• 48:43
  No.
• 48:44
  But if it's more in the eighty percent
• 48:48
  or below her for her, she's totally fine.
• 48:51
  She's like Haley was years ago when it
• 48:53
  was like if she's moving in eighty percent
• 48:55
  of her max, she can hang with anybody.
• 48:58
  But no, she can't win a one rep.
• 49:00
  That's I don't know.
• 49:02
  Take the hit there and continue doing what
• 49:03
  you're doing.
• 49:05
  CrossFit says Jamie said something about
• 49:07
  heavy deadlifts.
• 49:07
  I saw Carolyn set up.
• 49:12
  I would like that event though.
• 49:14
  Oh yeah.
• 49:17
  Uh,
• 49:18
  Danielle could move up two spots in either
• 49:19
  of those events and make a huge change.
• 49:21
  Yeah.
• 49:22
  Danielle's right there.
• 49:23
  Like she's,
• 49:24
  she's right there with the top five,
• 49:26
  like in, in the, in that field.
• 49:28
  Um,
• 49:30
  I kind of agree with Jamie.
• 49:31
  Like there's,
• 49:33
  you don't want her to get so strong
• 49:34
  where all of a sudden she's losing on
• 49:36
  her running or on her gymnastics.
• 49:38
  Cause like Danielle's just athletic.
• 49:40
  She's fit.
• 49:41
  She's well-rounded.
• 49:42
  She just has a couple little holes.
• 49:45
  And when the workouts are predominantly,
• 49:47
  you know, based off of the deadlift,
• 49:51
  although the back squat one,
• 49:53
  I'm going to argue it's not necessarily a
• 49:56
  back squat event because
• 49:57
  I don't think it's fully a back squat
• 49:59
  event.
• 50:00
  Like I think the compound of the dumbbell
• 50:03
  snatches and the sandbag over the shoulder
• 50:06
  is very relevant.
• 50:08
  And there was a lot of fitness involved
• 50:10
  in that workout.
• 50:11
  Like look at someone like Emily Rolfe,
• 50:13
  James Sprague.
• 50:14
  They don't have the top back squats.
• 50:16
  Lucy Campbell.
• 50:17
  Lucy had one of the lowest back squats
• 50:18
  at the games.
• 50:21
  Like same, I would probably guess that.
• 50:25
  James was towards the bottom or maybe
• 50:27
  middle bottom.
• 50:28
  And they did very well because they're
• 50:30
  very fit and they attacked the other part.
• 50:32
  So there were still opportunities in that
• 50:36
  workout,
• 50:36
  even with Danielle's back squat for her to
• 50:39
  maybe make a move.
• 50:39
  But if her back wasn't as good or
• 50:42
  hinging,
• 50:43
  there was a lot of hinge for sure.
• 50:45
  The sandbag cleans were the hardest part
• 50:48
  of the workout.
• 50:48
  Huh?
• 50:51
  Well,
• 50:51
  coming off of the ten dumbbell snatches
• 50:54
  and then you're having to grab another
• 50:56
  heavy object from the floor.
• 51:00
  Yeah.
• 51:03
  Yeah, that's just more explosive.
• 51:04
  You've got to use a hip-hop.
• 51:05
  It's just fatigue.
• 51:06
  I hate sandbags.
• 51:07
  They're so fatiguing.
• 51:09
  So I can see that.
• 51:12
  Listen,
• 51:13
  most people would say Rogue is not the
• 51:16
  event for Hailey, Danielle, Emily.
• 51:19
  I think...
• 51:20
  I think Danielle getting sixth is
• 51:23
  phenomenal.
• 51:27
  It wouldn't be my focus.
• 51:28
  It's probably her best ever Rogue finish,
• 51:30
  right?
• 51:30
  I believe it is, yeah.
• 51:32
  I think she got high up there another
• 51:34
  year.
• 51:35
  I think the year that I was there,
• 51:36
  maybe twenty-one or twenty-two.
• 51:39
  I think she was high at one of
• 51:40
  the years.
• 51:41
  But nonetheless, it was a good...
• 51:43
  She looked great all weekend.
• 51:45
  The reason I say that is if you
• 51:47
  remember Hiller and Brian were fighting
• 51:48
  because Danielle has never beaten Brooke
• 51:51
  Wells at rogue.
• 51:53
  And that actually happened this,
• 51:54
  this week, Danielle beat Brooke.
• 51:56
  Well, so I get,
• 51:58
  that's what I was kind of equating it
• 51:59
  to, but, um, but yeah.
• 52:04
  But I don't think Danielle was always this
• 52:07
  much of an outlier on the bottom side
• 52:09
  of strength.
• 52:09
  I think she had a back injury that
• 52:11
  has really damaged her.
• 52:13
  Because if I remember right,
• 52:14
  early in her career,
• 52:15
  she didn't have these issues with the
• 52:18
  heavier loads in deadlift or squatting.
• 52:24
  It was after she sustained the back injury
• 52:26
  that that kind of went away.
• 52:28
  And there's probably a mental aspect to
• 52:30
  that too.
• 52:30
  Oh, for sure.
• 52:31
  Yeah.
• 52:33
  Yeah, for sure.
• 52:37
  All right.
• 52:39
  I think that's pretty much everything we
• 52:41
  wanted to touch on.
• 52:41
  Did I miss anything?
• 52:44
  I want to make sure we get in
• 52:45
  because I've relented to everybody and
• 52:48
  we're going to play pencil, pen,
• 52:49
  Sharpie because you changed that game
• 52:52
  anyway.
• 52:55
  I mean,
• 52:57
  we've talked over the last few weeks about
• 53:00
  the...
• 53:02
  accumulation of comps and just fatigue on
• 53:05
  these athletes.
• 53:07
  We saw the games did a really good
• 53:09
  job with programming this year.
• 53:12
  I believe there was zero withdrawals
• 53:14
  injuries.
• 53:15
  There was three, maybe four here.
• 53:17
  I mean, I, in my opinion,
• 53:19
  I think Ariel was hurt.
• 53:21
  She could like not even perform those
• 53:23
  burpees.
• 53:23
  Yeah.
• 53:25
  She looked off on that last one and
• 53:27
  I would have picked her as the
• 53:30
  a top five because she didn't,
• 53:32
  she crushes squatting movements,
• 53:35
  like light squatting and burpees.
• 53:37
  She just looked off.
• 53:38
  She was like stepping down and like
• 53:40
  protecting her back.
• 53:41
  I think she hurt herself.
• 53:42
  So if you count her and the three
• 53:45
  other withdrawals,
• 53:45
  that's four people out of that's.
• 53:47
  Ten percent of the field had to withdraw
• 53:48
  this weekend and I get it.
• 53:50
  Rogue can do their thing.
• 53:51
  They can be the heavy event.
• 53:52
  I just think,
• 53:54
  I think it's too much personally.
• 53:57
  But I also think some people go to
• 53:59
  Rogue already injured but don't want to
• 54:00
  turn down Rogue because everything is paid
• 54:02
  for and you're getting a guaranteed income
• 54:05
  of like a minimum of like fifty five
• 54:08
  hundred ish.
• 54:09
  Plus your your travel is all paid for.
• 54:11
  So that's just like in your like,
• 54:13
  why would you say no,
• 54:14
  even if you have a small tweak?
• 54:16
  So are they injured prior or are they
• 54:18
  getting I mean, Quant got injured there.
• 54:20
  Right.
• 54:20
  Yeah.
• 54:22
  I don't know.
• 54:23
  Tall had a shoulder issue.
• 54:26
  WFP.
• 54:26
  And I thought she looked off a little
• 54:28
  bit on the log muscle up.
• 54:30
  So like,
• 54:30
  I wasn't sure whether there was anything
• 54:32
  there going on.
• 54:33
  She said event three,
• 54:35
  she hurt her shoulder.
• 54:37
  Um,
• 54:38
  but I know she's been dealing with
• 54:39
  shoulder lat all year.
• 54:43
  So yeah, hard to tell.
• 54:45
  Um, uh,
• 54:49
  Tony,
• 54:50
  what I don't like is the live transition
• 54:52
  and nothing happening.
• 54:54
  Watching the support crew,
• 54:55
  they could have showed past highlights,
• 54:57
  social media live posts.
• 55:00
  Okay.
• 55:01
  You know what I would like?
• 55:02
  When they were running and you could see
• 55:05
  the community people working out,
• 55:08
  I wish they would take a camera in
• 55:09
  there and show some of that stuff during
• 55:11
  those breaks.
• 55:13
  I don't know.
• 55:14
  And yeah, like highlights of anything.
• 55:16
  Yeah.
• 55:17
  But
• 55:18
  Yeah, show more around the venue.
• 55:22
  Yeah,
• 55:23
  run vignettes and features during dead
• 55:24
  air.
• 55:25
  Games do the same.
• 55:26
  Yeah.
• 55:26
  Yes.
• 55:27
  Yeah,
• 55:28
  you are just sitting there watching that.
• 55:30
  That's why I don't usually watch live,
• 55:31
  and I just come back, watch it,
• 55:33
  and fast forward.
• 55:35
  I can't remember who said it earlier.
• 55:36
  Someone said they didn't like the side
• 55:37
  cam.
• 55:37
  I love the side cam.
• 55:40
  I loved because at certain angles you
• 55:42
  could see the entire field.
• 55:44
  Yeah.
• 55:44
  And you weren't like up in the rafters
• 55:46
  watching it.
• 55:47
  You were like right there kind of looking
• 55:49
  through everybody to see everything.
• 55:52
  Like the dual cam,
• 55:53
  like when you could see them pulling the
• 55:55
  sled,
• 55:55
  is that the side cam or what am
• 55:57
  I?
• 55:57
  It was on cables on the side of
• 55:59
  the floor and it was worked.
• 56:01
  It was ran by remote.
• 56:03
  So it would zip,
• 56:05
  especially when they were like running up
• 56:06
  the field,
• 56:07
  it would go with the athletes up the
• 56:09
  field.
• 56:10
  but it also could like back up and
• 56:12
  do angles and stuff.
• 56:15
  And it would go up and down.
• 56:17
  The NFL has them in the middle of
• 56:19
  the field where they do.
• 56:20
  So it was the same thing.
• 56:21
  Only they didn't put it over the floor.
• 56:22
  They just put it to the side.
• 56:25
  I thought that was really cool.
• 56:28
  How about the rep counters?
• 56:29
  Oh, that was cool.
• 56:33
  So many live events that I've,
• 56:35
  and I know Jamie's the same way you
• 56:36
  were sitting there.
• 56:37
  You have no clue where people are.
• 56:40
  And if you had those rep counters over
• 56:41
  the rig,
• 56:42
  that would make a world of difference at
• 56:46
  a live event.
• 56:51
  Ortega, they're called spider cams.
• 56:59
  would be cool is if they had the
• 57:01
  funds to a live vr live broadcast as
• 57:03
  you sitting front row you would pay for
• 57:05
  the services football and olympics did
• 57:07
  this once yeah i've i've seen the football
• 57:10
  one yeah you actually look like you feel
• 57:12
  like you're in the stadium watching the
• 57:15
  game and they they do it at like
• 57:17
  movie theaters now um which is really cool
• 57:20
  that would be incredible
• 57:23
  Did you guys watch the Strongman and
• 57:25
  Strongwoman at all?
• 57:26
  I did.
• 57:26
  Those equipment that they had out there
• 57:29
  for those events is beautiful.
• 57:32
  Like the cannon, the, what is it called?
• 57:35
  The Viking press, the wheels, like,
• 57:41
  oh my gosh,
• 57:42
  like it's so cool to watch.
• 57:46
  And I'm just like push pressing like this
• 57:48
  amount.
• 57:48
  I'm just like,
• 57:51
  uh...
• 57:52
  cross that brings up world record lines or
• 57:54
  lines to beat
• 57:56
  if you watch the Olympics,
• 57:57
  they always have like the Olympic record,
• 57:59
  the world record lines on the pool or
• 58:02
  the track as it's going.
• 58:03
  And you can see if they're on pace
• 58:05
  or off pace, it'd be cool.
• 58:07
  If like after he won,
• 58:09
  you had the line where like Colton did
• 58:11
  it.
• 58:12
  Are you ahead of him or below behind
• 58:15
  him on the pace?
• 58:17
  But that I'm sure is way expensive and
• 58:19
  way out of budget.
• 58:21
  But what I will say is,
• 58:22
  is the broadcast was not hamilton roads it
• 58:26
  was so different and i thought it was
• 58:29
  so good with all the different angles
• 58:31
  there were less people on the floor i
• 58:33
  i wish we could get it to zero
• 58:36
  um cameraman on the floor to let to
• 58:38
  get out of the way but um did
• 58:41
  you see lucy campbell like she went off
• 58:45
  but yeah that was during the burpees yep
• 58:47
  she's like move over i need to win
• 58:50
  this right now
• 58:53
  A cameraman should never be in the way.
• 58:56
  She shouldn't even have to do that.
• 58:59
  That is,
• 59:00
  it used to be finish lines was my
• 59:02
  biggest pet peeve.
• 59:02
  My new biggest pet peeve is get the
• 59:04
  cameraman out of the way.
• 59:07
  You have zoom lenses.
• 59:10
  Use them.
• 59:11
  Agree.
• 59:12
  Nobody's out there in the huddle with
• 59:13
  Patrick Mahomes taking video while he's
• 59:17
  calling a play.
• 59:23
  I'm not going to pick that one up
• 59:24
  because we're going to talk about that.
• 59:27
  Okay.
• 59:28
  So let's do pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
• 59:33
  And if you guys say fact or fiction,
• 59:35
  I'm going to toss some chops.
• 59:39
  All right.
• 59:41
  So first one, pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
• 59:45
  And the way this works is I will
• 59:46
  say a statement,
• 59:47
  and you say if I should write it
• 59:49
  in pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
• 59:52
  Laura Horvath will compete in the CrossFit
• 59:55
  game season next year.
• 1:00:03
  Pencil.
• 1:00:03
  Pencil.
• 1:00:09
  I'm going pen.
• 1:00:11
  Okay, fair.
• 1:00:12
  CrossFit says pencil.
• 1:00:14
  Craig Pasley says Sharpie.
• 1:00:17
  Aaron Frazier pencil.
• 1:00:19
  CrossFit goes crayon.
• 1:00:22
  Clock says pencil.
• 1:00:24
  We got another pencil.
• 1:00:27
  Pencil at best.
• 1:00:29
  We do have a Sharpie here.
• 1:00:32
  Disappearing ink from Fergie.
• 1:00:37
  Pencil.
• 1:00:40
  I thought going into this weekend,
• 1:00:42
  I would have said pencil as well.
• 1:00:44
  But I thought with the way everything
• 1:00:46
  rolled out this weekend and the way she
• 1:00:50
  handled herself was just back to like the
• 1:00:53
  old Laura.
• 1:00:55
  And I just have a feeling there's a
• 1:00:59
  shot.
• 1:01:00
  And so I'm going Penn because I think
• 1:01:02
  there's a shot.
• 1:01:03
  I think that's because it wasn't in
• 1:01:05
  America.
• 1:01:05
  Man,
• 1:01:06
  I don't think she wants anything to do
• 1:01:07
  with CrossFit Games.
• 1:01:07
  I don't think she wants anything to do
• 1:01:11
  with HQ.
• 1:01:12
  No.
• 1:01:16
  Carolyn, any reasons why?
• 1:01:18
  I think there's a chance that she could
• 1:01:19
  come back, but not yet.
• 1:01:21
  Not yet.
• 1:01:24
  CrossFit says,
• 1:01:25
  would love to see Laura back at the
• 1:01:26
  games.
• 1:01:28
  Horvath doesn't want to lose to Tia.
• 1:01:30
  She's coming back till Tia.
• 1:01:32
  It wasn't coming back till Tia.
• 1:01:34
  I don't think that Laura has that attitude
• 1:01:36
  at all ever.
• 1:01:38
  I think she wants to beat Tia.
• 1:01:41
  I think she wants the opportunity to beat
• 1:01:42
  Tia for sure.
• 1:01:43
  If everyone talks all the time,
• 1:01:45
  she wants to have that win against Tia
• 1:01:48
  when Tia's a hunter.
• 1:01:50
  Any type of competitor.
• 1:01:52
  You want to win when everyone's at their
• 1:01:54
  one hundred percent so that you settle
• 1:01:57
  things.
• 1:01:58
  Tia did not do the WFP,
• 1:02:01
  so she does not have any shots there.
• 1:02:04
  She may have a rogue shot in the
• 1:02:06
  future.
• 1:02:07
  May or may not.
• 1:02:09
  But in all reality,
• 1:02:10
  her shot to beat Tia is at the
• 1:02:12
  games.
• 1:02:12
  That's true.
• 1:02:16
  And I would argue beating Tia at Rogue
• 1:02:18
  doesn't hold the same weight.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah,
• 1:02:23
  but do you remember how excited she was
• 1:02:27
  when she beat Tia at Rogue?
• 1:02:28
  Yeah.
• 1:02:30
  It meant a lot to her.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  That was so fun to watch that year
• 1:02:35
  at Rogue.
• 1:02:36
  Them going back and forth,
• 1:02:38
  them being tied,
• 1:02:39
  going into the final event with the
• 1:02:41
  skipping and the clean and jerks,
• 1:02:44
  that was cool.
• 1:02:46
  Whether Tia was a hundred percent or not,
• 1:02:47
  that didn't matter.
• 1:02:49
  She showed up, she showed up to win,
• 1:02:51
  and that was a good battle.
• 1:02:53
  And whether we thought it was a legit
• 1:02:55
  win or not,
• 1:02:55
  it was a legit win to Laura.
• 1:02:57
  Sure.
• 1:03:00
  So that's mainly why I'm going Penn now.
• 1:03:02
  Okay.
• 1:03:04
  All right, let's do the next one.
• 1:03:08
  Pencil, pen, or sharpie?
• 1:03:09
  Jeff Adler and Justin Medeiros have worked
• 1:03:12
  through recent issues and will be title
• 1:03:14
  contenders next season.
• 1:03:15
  Pen.
• 1:03:16
  Pen.
• 1:03:16
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• 1:03:18
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• 1:03:31
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:33
  Pen.
• 1:03:33
  Pen
• 1:03:34
  Sharpie.
• 1:03:37
  So Jamie Penn, Carolyn Sharpie.
• 1:03:41
  I'm going Sharpie.
• 1:03:43
  Wow.
• 1:03:46
  I think Jeff just needed the confidence in
• 1:03:48
  his body,
• 1:03:49
  and I think he got that in a
• 1:03:51
  grueling nine-event, three-day weekend.
• 1:03:55
  And I think Justin Medeiros...
• 1:03:58
  doing a podcast with those other three
• 1:04:01
  have given him the motivation to,
• 1:04:04
  to not be smack talked all the time.
• 1:04:07
  And it's given him that edge he needed
• 1:04:08
  back.
• 1:04:10
  And I think it has been the best
• 1:04:11
  thing for him.
• 1:04:12
  And I think it's been great for all
• 1:04:13
  four of them,
• 1:04:16
  but I think it's definitely Sharpie.
• 1:04:19
  This is the best that Justin has looked
• 1:04:21
  in so long.
• 1:04:22
  He had a great,
• 1:04:23
  he had a great weekend for him to
• 1:04:25
  overtake James on that running rope,
• 1:04:29
  climb lunge workout.
• 1:04:32
  was crazy i was like wow here comes
• 1:04:35
  justin again and for so many years like
• 1:04:38
  he was dominant for that you know really
• 1:04:41
  from twenty twenty to twenty twenty two
• 1:04:43
  like he got third in twenty twenty at
• 1:04:45
  the ranch games but twenty twenty one
• 1:04:48
  twenty twenty two he won rogue twice he
• 1:04:50
  won the games twice he was dominant and
• 1:04:52
  then
• 1:04:53
  He hasn't really bounced back.
• 1:04:56
  And I know he was dealing with some
• 1:04:58
  lower body,
• 1:04:59
  I think a calf issue that was preventing
• 1:05:01
  him from calf or ankle or some lower
• 1:05:04
  body.
• 1:05:04
  I think it was calf from running,
• 1:05:08
  which was one of his bigger weaknesses.
• 1:05:10
  And he hasn't been able to work on
• 1:05:13
  that last couple of years.
• 1:05:14
  So if he's been able to run consistently
• 1:05:17
  at a hundred percent now, foot injury,
• 1:05:19
  that's what it was.
• 1:05:20
  And he's able to hold his own in
• 1:05:22
  a running workout.
• 1:05:24
  he can have the confidence now behind it
• 1:05:26
  and be motivated.
• 1:05:29
  He can certainly get back into the mix
• 1:05:31
  with those,
• 1:05:32
  those other male athletes that are,
• 1:05:35
  you know,
• 1:05:35
  been consistent last couple of years.
• 1:05:38
  So super,
• 1:05:38
  super happy to see him on the podium.
• 1:05:41
  Ken Walters.
• 1:05:42
  The game is I give you a statement.
• 1:05:44
  You tell me if I write it in
• 1:05:45
  pencil, pen or Sharpie,
• 1:05:47
  not change the statement.
• 1:05:54
  they should give out bonuses for those who
• 1:05:55
  break records for events.
• 1:05:56
  They need to save event times to save
• 1:05:58
  records.
• 1:05:59
  That would be crazy because every venue is
• 1:06:03
  different.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, you can't do that.
• 1:06:12
  I mean, we said this before, like,
• 1:06:15
  We say you're only as good as your
• 1:06:16
  last competition,
• 1:06:17
  but one of your other questions recently
• 1:06:19
  was,
• 1:06:20
  do we put too much stake in each
• 1:06:22
  of these off-season competitions?
• 1:06:23
  And I still think we kind of do.
• 1:06:25
  So I can't just take this one performance
• 1:06:28
  and say they're back.
• 1:06:30
  They both looked great.
• 1:06:32
  But there is, someone else said this,
• 1:06:34
  there's like eight contenders,
• 1:06:36
  and that's the truth of it.
• 1:06:37
  But for me, Jeff Adler,
• 1:06:39
  I've never once drifted from believing in
• 1:06:43
  him being the top contender to win.
• 1:06:46
  Like,
• 1:06:46
  I think he is the fittest of the
• 1:06:48
  group of eight.
• 1:06:50
  It just depends whether he's healthy or
• 1:06:51
  not.
• 1:06:53
  And when healthy and executing, like,
• 1:06:55
  there's no one I don't think that beats
• 1:06:56
  him.
• 1:06:58
  So that's a very easy Sharpie for me.
• 1:07:03
  All right, next one.
• 1:07:04
  Pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
• 1:07:05
  CrossFit will look at what Rogue produced
• 1:07:07
  from a broadcast standpoint and try to
• 1:07:09
  make similar changes.
• 1:07:12
  Pencil.
• 1:07:14
  Pencil.
• 1:07:15
  I don't think they have the money.
• 1:07:16
  Yeah, I don't think they have the money.
• 1:07:17
  I don't think they... I don't know.
• 1:07:20
  They've been seeming to take some feedback
• 1:07:25
  and progress a little bit,
• 1:07:26
  but in this area,
• 1:07:28
  I just don't think they're going to,
• 1:07:30
  unfortunately.
• 1:07:31
  Yeah, pencil.
• 1:07:32
  I don't think they've said it themselves.
• 1:07:34
  They don't look at what other competitions
• 1:07:35
  do.
• 1:07:36
  They're the ones who created it.
• 1:07:38
  And I think that's a big mistake.
• 1:07:40
  I think Katie saying on the broadcast or
• 1:07:43
  the podcast she did that she watches all
• 1:07:45
  the competitions to learn what she can do
• 1:07:47
  better.
• 1:07:48
  And I think that's a huge difference.
• 1:07:53
  Fergie says eraser.
• 1:07:56
  Lots of pencils.
• 1:07:58
  Pencil, Pencil CrossFit,
• 1:08:01
  didn't even watch.
• 1:08:02
  Pencil, a Bic pen.
• 1:08:05
  Pencil, another eraser not happening.
• 1:08:10
  I feel like it's a money thing more
• 1:08:12
  than anything, to be quite honest.
• 1:08:13
  Like, even if they watch,
• 1:08:14
  I just don't think they're going to put
• 1:08:15
  that in the budget this year.
• 1:08:16
  Not if they're still trying to make their
• 1:08:17
  numbers look good.
• 1:08:18
  That's not their focus.
• 1:08:22
  But also,
• 1:08:23
  we don't know what this cost is for
• 1:08:26
  Rogue to put this on and how much
• 1:08:29
  they're winning or losing money from this
• 1:08:31
  event.
• 1:08:34
  It looks like it's expensive.
• 1:08:36
  And I don't think CrossFit is willing to
• 1:08:38
  put that money there.
• 1:08:41
  Well,
• 1:08:41
  I'll say whatever Rogue did was just the
• 1:08:44
  gold standard.
• 1:08:45
  When Katie said they bring in their own
• 1:08:47
  lighting rigs,
• 1:08:49
  And here I am.
• 1:08:51
  I'm starting my smear campaign again.
• 1:08:55
  WFP needs to look at what Rogue brought
• 1:08:57
  in for their lighting.
• 1:08:59
  I know they're trying to create something
• 1:09:01
  similar to that.
• 1:09:03
  The edges of the floor were sharp.
• 1:09:05
  You could see all ten lanes.
• 1:09:09
  And yet it still had the ability to
• 1:09:10
  do different colors, different lights,
• 1:09:13
  different ways of doing things.
• 1:09:15
  I thought that was...
• 1:09:17
  phenomenal and WFP should take a note on
• 1:09:20
  how that was done.
• 1:09:22
  If they want to create that same thing,
• 1:09:24
  because I can't hear you.
• 1:09:36
  Can you talk?
• 1:09:38
  No, we don't hear you.
• 1:09:45
  But Katie's post that she did tonight was
• 1:09:51
  like, I don't know,
• 1:09:51
  she just thanked the volunteers and stuff,
• 1:09:53
  but then wrote the standard.
• 1:09:55
  And Rogue is the standard.
• 1:09:59
  In the online games,
• 1:10:01
  they began the standard of showing the
• 1:10:03
  multiple screens and people doing the live
• 1:10:05
  workouts together.
• 1:10:07
  The broadcast here this weekend,
• 1:10:10
  absolutely the standard of what is
• 1:10:12
  possible in our sport in terms of...
• 1:10:15
  viewability oh there you go i could i
• 1:10:17
  could hear him for a second and then
• 1:10:18
  he went away um yeah no they're they're
• 1:10:22
  the standard and i would love for crossfit
• 1:10:25
  to do that but yeah i don't think
• 1:10:26
  they will yeah i mean it is a
• 1:10:30
  marketing campaign for them i mean i think
• 1:10:32
  even katie said that and they did they
• 1:10:34
  did what they needed to do that's not
• 1:10:35
  the same for crossfit like what is
• 1:10:38
  it's just not the same.
• 1:10:40
  No, no.
• 1:10:41
  And like I said, it is,
• 1:10:43
  this event is a huge marketing and what
• 1:10:45
  a great time of the year to place
• 1:10:47
  this event.
• 1:10:47
  Late October, beginning of November,
• 1:10:50
  you know, black Friday is coming up.
• 1:10:53
  Christmas is coming up.
• 1:10:54
  You got to see a bunch of equipment
• 1:10:57
  there.
• 1:10:58
  Um, a new skier,
• 1:10:59
  even the echo bike had a different screen,
• 1:11:01
  the same screen that they have on the
• 1:11:03
  rower.
• 1:11:04
  Um, and on their skier machine, um,
• 1:11:08
  is on the echo bike i wonder if
• 1:11:09
  they'll also put that on the biker so
• 1:11:12
  all three all four of the machines would
• 1:11:15
  have the same machine to sell you had
• 1:11:17
  the cyclone bag the bag like all three
• 1:11:20
  types of sandbags were there just all the
• 1:11:23
  equipment right so um i'm sure they're
• 1:11:27
  looking to make their money back in the
• 1:11:29
  next few weeks if they're under money from
• 1:11:31
  this event because it is uh expensive to
• 1:11:35
  run
• 1:11:38
  Yeah,
• 1:11:39
  I don't know how they do it because
• 1:11:40
  they have such a healthy prize purse.
• 1:11:44
  It's crazy.
• 1:11:45
  Well,
• 1:11:45
  I don't get how the Bitcoin stuff works.
• 1:11:47
  I don't either.
• 1:11:48
  I have no idea how they just begin
• 1:11:51
  at something and then this is the minimum
• 1:11:53
  that you can have.
• 1:11:54
  I don't even know how that works.
• 1:11:58
  Grove does not have a biker yet, Erin.
• 1:12:01
  I would assume that's going to be their
• 1:12:03
  next play.
• 1:12:05
  No, I'm saying the screen.
• 1:12:07
  Yeah, I know.
• 1:12:08
  But they're now going to have like, well,
• 1:12:10
  I guess, yeah, that's concept too.
• 1:12:12
  Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  But they got their echo bike.
• 1:12:15
  They're just creating the ski,
• 1:12:16
  the echo or ski or skier.
• 1:12:20
  So will they come out with a biker?
• 1:12:23
  I'm sure.
• 1:12:25
  I'm sure they're going to want to take
• 1:12:26
  over every type of thing.
• 1:12:27
  I mean,
• 1:12:28
  now that they have the rower and the,
• 1:12:30
  the skier and the echo bike,
• 1:12:33
  I don't see why they wouldn't now do
• 1:12:37
  the biker next or a different type of
• 1:12:40
  machine that we haven't seen in the space.
• 1:12:43
  Yeah.
• 1:12:44
  You're being censored.
• 1:12:47
  Apparently the WFP has done,
• 1:12:50
  give a virus to my road caster.
• 1:12:53
  I had to reset it.
• 1:12:54
  Yeah.
• 1:12:59
  missed what you guys are saying so i'm
• 1:13:00
  just hopping forward do you think that's
• 1:13:02
  why katie seems so adamant about it about
• 1:13:05
  it was the last year in scotland too
• 1:13:07
  costly to run events across the pond was
• 1:13:10
  it a three-year deal at first why was
• 1:13:12
  i thinking it was a three-year deal let's
• 1:13:14
  call it and now it's just two-year am
• 1:13:16
  i wrong thinking that is three i never
• 1:13:18
  heard that yeah no i didn't know those
• 1:13:21
  details
• 1:13:24
  Last year,
• 1:13:24
  they announced the following year pretty
• 1:13:26
  early.
• 1:13:27
  Almost right after Rogue,
• 1:13:29
  they announced the next location.
• 1:13:32
  I wonder if they already have the new
• 1:13:35
  location and that'll get announced soon.
• 1:13:42
  Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  If it stays in Europe,
• 1:13:45
  it goes to somewhere where English is
• 1:13:47
  predominant language.
• 1:13:49
  I think they're coming back to the States.
• 1:13:52
  Yeah.
• 1:13:54
  I mean, it's a lot of travel.
• 1:13:57
  It sounded like Columbus.
• 1:13:58
  That's what I was thinking.
• 1:14:00
  But I don't.
• 1:14:01
  Because they're building onto the factory.
• 1:14:03
  She said that on Coffee Pods and Wads.
• 1:14:05
  And they'll have more room when they.
• 1:14:08
  So I don't know.
• 1:14:09
  We'll see.
• 1:14:10
  One can hope.
• 1:14:12
  That'd be awesome.
• 1:14:15
  So we have one more.
• 1:14:17
  hopefully uh the virus doesn't get me
• 1:14:19
  again all right uh pencil pen or sharpie
• 1:14:23
  the latest season format that crossfit
• 1:14:26
  announced will remain in place for a few
• 1:14:29
  years man pencil i'm gonna say pencil too
• 1:14:39
  i when have we when have we made
• 1:14:42
  it two years now there's always been a
• 1:14:44
  change so i'm gonna go pen
• 1:14:48
  It seems like we're trending in the right
• 1:14:49
  direction.
• 1:14:50
  I just think there's going to be some
• 1:14:51
  issues with this.
• 1:14:52
  Either the Masters is going to get dropped
• 1:14:54
  or something's going to change.
• 1:14:56
  Carry on.
• 1:14:59
  Here's my reasoning for Penn.
• 1:15:01
  I think CrossFit has found a way to
• 1:15:04
  hold semifinals at no cost to them.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah.
• 1:15:08
  And still have a control over an online
• 1:15:11
  semifinal to do –
• 1:15:15
  a qualifying leg themselves.
• 1:15:18
  So I think that gives them the best
• 1:15:19
  of both worlds.
• 1:15:21
  If the people there remain there for the
• 1:15:23
  next season,
• 1:15:24
  I think we stay like that for a
• 1:15:26
  little bit, but in,
• 1:15:30
  in what you're saying in that there's
• 1:15:32
  going to be some in-person semis and some
• 1:15:36
  online, I can,
• 1:15:38
  I can give you a pen on that.
• 1:15:44
  I think they learned quarterfinals was a
• 1:15:46
  big moneymaker,
• 1:15:47
  and it was something that a lot of
• 1:15:49
  people signed up for.
• 1:15:51
  And so they went back to...
• 1:15:53
  I think we're staying with open
• 1:15:55
  quarterfinals in person and online
• 1:15:58
  semifinals into the games.
• 1:16:02
  Okay.
• 1:16:03
  I can go with the format.
• 1:16:04
  I just think there's going to be a
• 1:16:05
  lot of details that change.
• 1:16:06
  Yeah.
• 1:16:07
  I think the format like that is...
• 1:16:10
  for a few years the location and how
• 1:16:13
  many semifinals how many spots are
• 1:16:16
  allocated all of that will continuously to
• 1:16:18
  change as the landscape of the field
• 1:16:20
  changes and strength of field change you
• 1:16:23
  know maybe certain regions start getting
• 1:16:26
  better or worse yeah I
• 1:16:30
  So Tristan says one person,
• 1:16:33
  one in-person qualifier for teams in North
• 1:16:35
  America.
• 1:16:36
  I I'm saying that the format of open
• 1:16:39
  quarterfinals in person and online
• 1:16:42
  semifinals games,
• 1:16:44
  the in-person semifinals may change from
• 1:16:46
  year to year and how many qualify qualify
• 1:16:50
  out of each one may change from year
• 1:16:51
  to year,
• 1:16:52
  but the basic outline of that will stay
• 1:16:54
  the same.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah.
• 1:16:59
  Yeah.
• 1:17:04
  So there we go.
• 1:17:06
  So that is Pencil, Pen, and Sharpie.
• 1:17:10
  Glad everybody tried to come up with
• 1:17:12
  different answers.
• 1:17:13
  Now it's going to be a challenge every
• 1:17:15
  week.
• 1:17:16
  I can see it coming.
• 1:17:18
  So awesome.
• 1:17:21
  And now we're going to go into the
• 1:17:22
  season that was announced and talk about
• 1:17:24
  that a little bit.
• 1:17:26
  Because it happened midweek.
• 1:17:28
  I haven't got your guys' opinion as to
• 1:17:30
  what happened.
• 1:17:31
  It was announced we're going back to
• 1:17:33
  quarterfinals.
• 1:17:34
  The in-person semis were announced on
• 1:17:36
  where the locations and the dates will be,
• 1:17:39
  how many people qualify out of each one.
• 1:17:41
  And then the big news for this podcast,
• 1:17:44
  I guess,
• 1:17:46
  is that the Masters get some in-person
• 1:17:48
  qualifying events for the first time ever.
• 1:17:54
  Thoughts on the announced season.
• 1:17:57
  Let's start with the elite piece and then
• 1:17:58
  we'll go to the master's piece.
• 1:18:01
  I think it made sense.
• 1:18:03
  You know, you have certain semifinals,
• 1:18:05
  a little bit of everywhere in person.
• 1:18:09
  You know,
• 1:18:09
  we were just waiting to see where, when,
• 1:18:11
  um,
• 1:18:12
  surprised to see a few of them on
• 1:18:13
  the same dates.
• 1:18:14
  I thought that was, um, interesting.
• 1:18:19
  Uh,
• 1:18:20
  then the semifinal that's online is after
• 1:18:23
  that makes sense as well.
• 1:18:24
  We don't have the details on who gets
• 1:18:25
  to do that.
• 1:18:26
  Is it everyone that can do an online
• 1:18:27
  semifinal similar to last year?
• 1:18:29
  It's like the top one percent.
• 1:18:30
  Or is it people from these in a
• 1:18:32
  in-person semifinals and only those people
• 1:18:34
  get to do like the last chance qualifier?
• 1:18:36
  Because we had a semifinal last year.
• 1:18:38
  We had a last chance qualifier and the
• 1:18:39
  last chance qualifier athletes were like
• 1:18:41
  the top ten or something from each
• 1:18:43
  semifinal and the online semifinal
• 1:18:45
  everyone could do that were in the top
• 1:18:47
  ten.
• 1:18:48
  one percent so i'm curious what the rules
• 1:18:51
  will be around that if people have to
• 1:18:53
  go to a um in person or if
• 1:18:56
  they can try to get their spot online
• 1:18:59
  how many spots of all that i think
• 1:19:01
  uh i think it makes sense um excited
• 1:19:02
  for it i think it's the top two
• 1:19:08
  thousand or whatever i think that's what i
• 1:19:10
  would assume i think that's not like a
• 1:19:11
  last chance qualifier no
• 1:19:16
  uh john young scott congratulations on
• 1:19:18
  rogue shot caller i have not been beaten
• 1:19:19
  in a while by anyone in the media
• 1:19:22
  well i actually stay up every night one
• 1:19:24
  hour and i study game tape um and
• 1:19:28
  it was all in the effort to eventually
• 1:19:30
  beat john young in shot caller but really
• 1:19:33
  my true like big white whale is lex
• 1:19:39
  when i can be here in a legitimate
• 1:19:41
  weekend
• 1:19:42
  And she forgot to post.
• 1:19:43
  John must have missed this because both
• 1:19:46
  Lex and I, Lex was in second,
• 1:19:48
  I was in sixth,
• 1:19:49
  both Lex and I forgot to put in
• 1:19:50
  our picks for the final day or we
• 1:19:52
  would have beaten Scott.
• 1:19:54
  And I have beaten John Young at shot
• 1:19:56
  caller too.
• 1:19:57
  Yeah.
• 1:19:58
  If I count as media.
• 1:19:59
  I want to say,
• 1:20:00
  I did look at our comparison, Jamie.
• 1:20:02
  You had a really bad day last day.
• 1:20:05
  I didn't even have scores in.
• 1:20:08
  Yeah,
• 1:20:08
  but even your first two picks were not
• 1:20:10
  good.
• 1:20:10
  Your first two events were not good.
• 1:20:14
  I looked.
• 1:20:15
  I made up a ton of ground on
• 1:20:16
  events seven and eight.
• 1:20:18
  I still only needed, like, what, I mean,
• 1:20:21
  two hundred points.
• 1:20:22
  If you kept picking like that,
• 1:20:23
  I was winning.
• 1:20:24
  Oh, I would have been fine.
• 1:20:25
  I would have been fine.
• 1:20:27
  I would have been top fifteen.
• 1:20:29
  I'll take credit for Lex's picks, too,
• 1:20:31
  because I have input on hers as well,
• 1:20:34
  so.
• 1:20:38
  Um, so anyway, back to the season, Jamie,
• 1:20:42
  your, your thoughts,
• 1:20:43
  you're good with what we're doing this
• 1:20:44
  season.
• 1:20:47
  I think, I don't know.
• 1:20:50
  For me, that puts a, that just be,
• 1:20:54
  it's a, it's a,
• 1:20:55
  who has the money to travel and the
• 1:20:57
  time.
• 1:20:58
  And I don't,
• 1:20:59
  I don't know that that's a great,
• 1:21:01
  I know we've been wanting an in-person.
• 1:21:03
  I don't know that it's even realistic, uh,
• 1:21:06
  And to give away half the field to
• 1:21:08
  that,
• 1:21:09
  it's just giving away a spot to somebody
• 1:21:12
  who has the money and the free time
• 1:21:14
  to travel.
• 1:21:16
  You and Pat Midgley must be hanging out.
• 1:21:19
  I mean, Latin America gets three?
• 1:21:22
  Who the frick's going there?
• 1:21:24
  They're going to...
• 1:21:27
  This is what bugs me.
• 1:21:29
  Gosh, why'd you have to do this?
• 1:21:31
  This is what bugs me.
• 1:21:32
  Last year,
• 1:21:33
  we all complained because everything is
• 1:21:35
  online.
• 1:21:37
  Nobody judges online.
• 1:21:38
  They don't review anything online.
• 1:21:40
  So then people get there that shouldn't
• 1:21:41
  deserve to get there.
• 1:21:42
  Now we're actually having events where
• 1:21:44
  people are judged in person,
• 1:21:46
  and you'll actually know whether they
• 1:21:48
  deserve to go to the games or not,
• 1:21:50
  just like everybody wanted.
• 1:21:51
  And it's year one,
• 1:21:52
  so they got the people who were willing
• 1:21:55
  to hold events to do it,
• 1:21:57
  and they have fifteen people qualifying
• 1:21:59
  that way,
• 1:22:00
  and fifteen people qualifying the
• 1:22:01
  traditional way.
• 1:22:02
  Last year you had no option.
• 1:22:05
  No option at all.
• 1:22:05
  I think that's too much.
• 1:22:07
  You had to go with just the online.
• 1:22:10
  Now you have an option and you're
• 1:22:11
  complaining that it's only the rich people
• 1:22:13
  that are going to get to go to
• 1:22:14
  the games because they can travel.
• 1:22:17
  Yes.
• 1:22:17
  Come on.
• 1:22:18
  It should have been like two North America
• 1:22:20
  and one Europe and that's it.
• 1:22:22
  And the rest is still online.
• 1:22:23
  Like we,
• 1:22:27
  the locations are kind of interesting to
• 1:22:29
  me.
• 1:22:31
  I don't think you're going to get the
• 1:22:32
  fittest people there.
• 1:22:36
  People travel to Fort Wayne,
• 1:22:38
  Indiana to compete for nothing.
• 1:22:42
  Very few did.
• 1:22:46
  Hundreds did.
• 1:22:49
  Okay,
• 1:22:50
  so you're going to get that group of
• 1:22:51
  people who haven't had an option,
• 1:22:52
  who have the free time and the money
• 1:22:54
  to go, so you're not getting the fittest.
• 1:22:57
  Did the fittest people go to Fort Wayne?
• 1:22:59
  No,
• 1:22:59
  but the fittest people do go to Legends,
• 1:23:01
  and some of them travel from a long
• 1:23:03
  ways away to get there.
• 1:23:04
  John took the words right out of my
• 1:23:06
  mouth.
• 1:23:07
  But anybody can,
• 1:23:08
  Jason Grubb can fly down to Latam and
• 1:23:12
  qualify that way if he wants to.
• 1:23:14
  Okay.
• 1:23:14
  There's no regional restrictions.
• 1:23:16
  I think it's good that there's one in
• 1:23:17
  Latin America and then do drug testing
• 1:23:19
  there.
• 1:23:21
  Well, they're going to, I mean,
• 1:23:22
  it's going to go to like the bottom
• 1:23:24
  five people are going to be the ones
• 1:23:25
  that finally make it out of there.
• 1:23:30
  Masters people travel.
• 1:23:32
  I've watched it.
• 1:23:32
  I've been at Legends.
• 1:23:33
  I think they'll travel.
• 1:23:34
  People travel across the country to go to
• 1:23:36
  Legends for nothing, for just one event.
• 1:23:46
  I don't know.
• 1:23:46
  Where's the Master one for North America?
• 1:23:49
  There's two.
• 1:23:50
  Two.
• 1:23:51
  Del Mar.
• 1:23:51
  There's Del Mar and there's Birmingham,
• 1:23:54
  Alabama.
• 1:23:55
  Del Mar.
• 1:23:56
  That's in California one.
• 1:23:57
  Yeah.
• 1:24:01
  So we have to see if it's going
• 1:24:06
  to work.
• 1:24:07
  We have to try it.
• 1:24:08
  We're at least there's an option.
• 1:24:12
  Yeah.
• 1:24:12
  I mean,
• 1:24:13
  I'm curious to see how it works.
• 1:24:14
  I don't think it affects me this year.
• 1:24:15
  So it is what it is.
• 1:24:16
  Well, there it is.
• 1:24:23
  So in addition to this,
• 1:24:25
  there was a rumored, well,
• 1:24:28
  there is what appeared to be a leak
• 1:24:29
  that,
• 1:24:31
  So when it was announced on the CrossFit
• 1:24:34
  semifinal post on Instagram,
• 1:24:39
  some of it has been removed,
• 1:24:40
  or I would pull it up for you
• 1:24:41
  guys.
• 1:24:43
  But there was a comment made that, hey,
• 1:24:47
  since Legends is,
• 1:24:49
  and I'm paraphrasing big time,
• 1:24:51
  since Legends is doing a semifinal,
• 1:24:54
  does that mean the Masters games are
• 1:24:57
  going,
• 1:24:58
  the Masters are going back with the
• 1:24:59
  individuals?
• 1:25:00
  Yes.
• 1:25:01
  And the response from legends was one
• 1:25:04
  hundred.
• 1:25:04
  Yeah.
• 1:25:07
  Then a couple comments later that this has
• 1:25:10
  been now removed said, oh,
• 1:25:12
  I misread your statement.
• 1:25:17
  Pencil, pen or Sharpie.
• 1:25:21
  Is this rumor going to, in fact,
• 1:25:23
  be true or not?
• 1:25:26
  Pencil.
• 1:25:27
  I don't think it's true.
• 1:25:32
  I'm trying to give them the benefit of
• 1:25:33
  the doubt.
• 1:25:34
  And I'm trying to like,
• 1:25:35
  imagine what they read it as.
• 1:25:38
  I think they read it as like,
• 1:25:39
  that would be cool.
• 1:25:40
  One hundred.
• 1:25:41
  Like, I agree with you.
• 1:25:44
  No.
• 1:25:46
  Crossfit says who misreads on IG.
• 1:25:48
  It wasn't a novel.
• 1:25:51
  I mean, that's the thing.
• 1:25:52
  Like,
• 1:25:52
  I don't know how you would have misread
• 1:25:53
  that, but,
• 1:25:54
  but I also don't see them just like
• 1:25:57
  commenting on that and confirming it.
• 1:26:00
  Like that doesn't make sense either.
• 1:26:06
  I don't know.
• 1:26:07
  So, Tony, since you're new,
• 1:26:08
  Legends has been the organization that has
• 1:26:10
  run the Masters CrossFit Games for the
• 1:26:13
  last two years.
• 1:26:15
  They are now running a semifinal that not
• 1:26:23
  only qualifies Masters age athletes to the
• 1:26:27
  Games,
• 1:26:27
  but also elite athletes to the Games,
• 1:26:30
  which boggles my mind.
• 1:26:33
  that they get like a promotion to work
• 1:26:37
  with the elites now.
• 1:26:41
  I just don't go ahead.
• 1:26:43
  Is this the way for CrossFit to be
• 1:26:45
  like, okay, show us what you got.
• 1:26:48
  All eyes are on you.
• 1:26:50
  And if you fail at this, you're out.
• 1:26:56
  Cause it matters more than, I mean,
• 1:26:58
  if it's just masters, just masters,
• 1:26:59
  we can deal with it,
• 1:26:59
  but now it's going to matter.
• 1:27:04
  But on Weekend Review,
• 1:27:06
  I don't know how many weeks ago,
• 1:27:10
  Dave said that the ones that will program
• 1:27:12
  next year's Masters games are Bob and Joe.
• 1:27:18
  There's no way if CrossFit was in the
• 1:27:20
  same location,
• 1:27:21
  the CrossFit Games for Elites and the
• 1:27:23
  Masters,
• 1:27:25
  I don't think that they would give the
• 1:27:28
  events to Bob and Joe because they need
• 1:27:30
  to line up with the equipment that's
• 1:27:32
  there, the flooring, the timing,
• 1:27:34
  all of that.
• 1:27:36
  And I just don't see them having input
• 1:27:39
  on those events or...
• 1:27:42
  building their events around what's there.
• 1:27:47
  Having access to information from the
• 1:27:48
  individuals just knowing.
• 1:27:50
  I mean, there's leaks and those as well.
• 1:27:52
  But I don't know.
• 1:27:54
  I just don't see that happening.
• 1:27:56
  So I think it's pencil.
• 1:28:00
  Not true.
• 1:28:00
  I think Joe and Bob are just idiots.
• 1:28:04
  I mean, they could have just Yeah,
• 1:28:07
  I don't know.
• 1:28:07
  They could have just been excited and not
• 1:28:09
  thinking and coming in.
• 1:28:10
  But
• 1:28:15
  I don't know.
• 1:28:16
  I feel like to them,
• 1:28:17
  they wouldn't think that that's great if
• 1:28:19
  they're losing some control of it.
• 1:28:21
  It's being taken from them.
• 1:28:22
  So I don't know if they'd have been
• 1:28:23
  like, yeah, one hundred.
• 1:28:25
  You know, like because if if that happens,
• 1:28:27
  if it's going there and it's the three
• 1:28:29
  days before, if it's Monday, Tuesday,
• 1:28:30
  Wednesday.
• 1:28:32
  I think there I still think they're going
• 1:28:34
  to be handcuffed a little bit by CrossFit.
• 1:28:38
  They would have to be right.
• 1:28:39
  And we didn't get that impression from
• 1:28:41
  Dave.
• 1:28:41
  So I don't know that that's happening.
• 1:28:45
  I don't think it is.
• 1:28:45
  I think it was just a one hundred
• 1:28:47
  would be cool type thing.
• 1:28:51
  Sometimes the people that run the
• 1:28:55
  Instagram are social media people.
• 1:28:58
  You don't even know who's running the
• 1:29:00
  Instagram as well.
• 1:29:03
  I just can't imagine running a big
• 1:29:06
  semifinal in Del Mar,
• 1:29:07
  California for age groups and elite
• 1:29:10
  athletes and turning around
• 1:29:13
  two months later and running the Masters
• 1:29:15
  CrossFit Games.
• 1:29:17
  And then if they're going to hold their
• 1:29:20
  own Legends competition like they do every
• 1:29:22
  December,
• 1:29:23
  that's just like a lot to handle.
• 1:29:29
  I agree.
• 1:29:31
  So that's where I lend some credence to
• 1:29:33
  the rumor or to the fact it might
• 1:29:36
  be true is only because I can't imagine
• 1:29:40
  that they could handle
• 1:29:43
  all of those events in one year.
• 1:29:46
  Or will they drop the December Legends
• 1:29:48
  next year because that's kind of their
• 1:29:51
  Legends?
• 1:29:52
  They could drop the December one and focus
• 1:29:54
  on those two.
• 1:29:56
  Because you're right, that's a lot.
• 1:30:08
  I have no idea what he's saying.
• 1:30:10
  Worldwide.
• 1:30:13
  Has anyone discussed that syndicate and
• 1:30:14
  legends are taking from worldwide quarters
• 1:30:17
  and most other events are region based and
• 1:30:19
  syndicate is inviting games athletes.
• 1:30:24
  No, nothing's region.
• 1:30:25
  I've heard none of that.
• 1:30:26
  Yeah.
• 1:30:27
  I thought it was specifically said,
• 1:30:29
  nothing is region black.
• 1:30:30
  Like it is said on the,
• 1:30:35
  the sport of fitness podcast that it was,
• 1:30:39
  nothing was region based this year.
• 1:30:54
  whose website like the specific event
• 1:30:57
  websites like if we go to french to
• 1:31:02
  french throwdown it that's what it says
• 1:31:05
  are we sure they're updated for next
• 1:31:06
  season because because last year french
• 1:31:12
  only took
• 1:31:17
  I still think there's going to be
• 1:31:18
  regional...
• 1:31:20
  It's whatever the comp wants to do.
• 1:31:22
  I'm pretty sure.
• 1:31:24
  Boz said absolutely not.
• 1:31:26
  I thought Dave said in one of his
• 1:31:28
  reviews that the comps could do what they
• 1:31:31
  want.
• 1:31:32
  It was a specific question Chase asked
• 1:31:34
  Boz.
• 1:31:36
  I really hope not because that was my
• 1:31:38
  only thing that was redeeming about all of
• 1:31:41
  this was finally it's just open and
• 1:31:42
  people...
• 1:31:44
  It cannot be region blocked,
• 1:31:46
  especially if some are and some aren't.
• 1:31:47
  That's a big problem.
• 1:31:49
  I thought I remember Dave saying that on
• 1:31:52
  one of his weekend reviews.
• 1:31:59
  There's nothing region locked.
• 1:32:01
  Mayhem invites syndicate legends invite
• 1:32:03
  from quarters leaderboard.
• 1:32:05
  Most others have their own qualifier with
• 1:32:08
  people that make semis.
• 1:32:13
  And that's what I understood.
• 1:32:14
  The comps could do whatever they wanted
• 1:32:16
  from like a broadcast, from a programming,
• 1:32:19
  from all of that stuff.
• 1:32:20
  But this year they were not allowing the
• 1:32:24
  geographic region blocking.
• 1:32:31
  What I want to know is let's say
• 1:32:34
  you sign up for a qualifier, i.e.
• 1:32:38
  NorCal.
• 1:32:41
  You sign up for the qualifier,
• 1:32:42
  you do the qualifier.
• 1:32:43
  Are there more invites?
• 1:32:46
  One, like two weeks before the event,
• 1:32:49
  can you like, are you,
• 1:32:50
  are you signing up for, I don't know,
• 1:32:53
  syndicate.
• 1:32:54
  And then there's people that are not in
• 1:32:56
  the qualifier for it, or, you know,
• 1:32:57
  not maybe not syndicate.
• 1:32:58
  Cause they then do invites last year,
• 1:33:00
  but I just want to know like what
• 1:33:02
  the process is for each qualification.
• 1:33:07
  That's what I want to know.
• 1:33:08
  Like, is it the open?
• 1:33:09
  Is it the quarters?
• 1:33:10
  Is it an extra qualifier?
• 1:33:12
  Is it you sign up for their qualifier,
• 1:33:14
  but they're the same workouts as the open.
• 1:33:15
  You just have to post your score on
• 1:33:16
  their website.
• 1:33:17
  Like that is interesting.
• 1:33:21
  Like I want to know those.
• 1:33:23
  I would like for either a barbell spin
• 1:33:27
  or data watch or something to make a
• 1:33:29
  little chart of not just the main events,
• 1:33:31
  but when the qualifiers are just how to
• 1:33:33
  get there.
• 1:33:35
  when those are available.
• 1:33:41
  If they have spots, yes,
• 1:33:42
  NorCal took from qualifier,
• 1:33:44
  but held five spots for special invites at
• 1:33:46
  the very end.
• 1:33:48
  And I think the two crash winners already
• 1:33:51
  have spots to for NorCal.
• 1:33:53
  But like those are announced prior like,
• 1:33:55
  I don't know.
• 1:33:59
  Yeah.
• 1:33:59
  Yeah, I,
• 1:34:00
  I'm okay with that's part of your
• 1:34:01
  stipulation ahead of time.
• 1:34:03
  But
• 1:34:06
  And then the people still have to meet
• 1:34:07
  all the requirements that CrossFit sets
• 1:34:12
  forth,
• 1:34:12
  like you have to finish in the top
• 1:34:14
  whatever, the open, so on and so forth.
• 1:34:17
  You can still get the invite to the
• 1:34:19
  event but may not qualify for the games
• 1:34:22
  because you didn't meet the other stuff.
• 1:34:32
  Man, this is crazy.
• 1:34:34
  This is not what I expected.
• 1:34:36
  Well, I think it's terrible.
• 1:34:38
  Scrap the whole thing.
• 1:34:39
  It's trash.
• 1:34:41
  If it's back to regionally based,
• 1:34:43
  I don't like it at all.
• 1:34:44
  Yeah.
• 1:34:45
  Either it all go to regional and you
• 1:34:47
  have one qualifying place you can go.
• 1:34:50
  Yeah.
• 1:34:50
  And then the online is a last chance
• 1:34:53
  qualifier or open it up for anybody to
• 1:34:57
  sign up for whatever.
• 1:35:00
  Because that LATAM one is like the end
• 1:35:03
  of the year, the end of the season,
• 1:35:05
  right before the online.
• 1:35:06
  Is that one region locked?
• 1:35:08
  Because that's crazy.
• 1:35:13
  I was under the impression none of them
• 1:35:14
  are region locked.
• 1:35:17
  And that one gets like three spots.
• 1:35:18
  So that one really needs to not be
• 1:35:20
  region locked.
• 1:35:22
  And that is only Masters.
• 1:35:23
  There is no Elites.
• 1:35:25
  Yeah,
• 1:35:25
  so it better not be region locked is
• 1:35:27
  what I'm saying.
• 1:35:27
  That's crazy.
• 1:35:30
  That is not where the large portion of
• 1:35:32
  Masters athletes come from.
• 1:35:35
  Kenneth, these are not regionals.
• 1:35:39
  Regionals were done completely different.
• 1:35:48
  That's why I was trying to say more
• 1:35:51
  geographic boundaries.
• 1:35:54
  But last year,
• 1:35:55
  everybody did it differently.
• 1:35:56
  Some had geographic, some didn't.
• 1:35:58
  And that just makes a mess, I think.
• 1:36:04
  A complete mess.
• 1:36:06
  Especially if you're only getting thirty
• 1:36:07
  people to the games.
• 1:36:09
  It's got to be better than that.
• 1:36:14
  i think that's a good place to stop
• 1:36:15
  for tonight because i have not seen any
• 1:36:18
  of these websites i guess i've got some
• 1:36:20
  research to do but um and maybe tomorrow
• 1:36:26
  on dave's week in review he'll say more
• 1:36:30
  about that who knows um i have reached
• 1:36:32
  out to boz um he gave me his
• 1:36:35
  number at the h group games and apparently
• 1:36:37
  has now blocked me or something because
• 1:36:38
  i'm not getting any response back but uh
• 1:36:45
  probably about him isn't it like boss at
• 1:36:46
  crossfit.com or something yeah i i in the
• 1:36:50
  past i've always just dm'd him on
• 1:36:51
  instagram and he's responded but he
• 1:36:54
  actually gave me his phone number to text
• 1:36:55
  him um but then again maybe i the
• 1:36:58
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• 1:37:00
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• 1:37:03
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• 1:37:19
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• 1:37:21
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• 1:37:21
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• 1:37:25
  semifinals and see what they say.
• 1:37:27
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• 1:37:31
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• 1:37:34
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