Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Fresh Air Family Alabama Book - TPR's In Focus - Oct. 21, 2026
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- 0:22From Troy Public Radio, this is
- 0:26In Focus, and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:30Recently, I joined naturalist Verna Gates
- 0:33in a visit to the Alabama Nature Center north of Montgomery.
- 0:37We were there to preview her new book, Fresh Air Family Alabama:
- 0:4275 Engaging Outdoor Experiences.
- 0:47Verna is also a journalist and executive
- 0:51director of Fresh Air Family, and she's committed
- 0:55to introducing families to Alabama's incomparable
- 0:59outdoor opportunities.
- 1:04Verna Gates, welcome back to Troy Public Radio.
- 1:08It's always a pleasure, Carolyn. Where are we? We are at the
- 1:12Alabama Wildlife Federation Nature Center,
- 1:15right by the gopher tortoise enclosure.
- 1:19We are here to celebrate your new book. The name?
- 1:23The name is Fresh Air Family Alabama: 75 Engaging
- 1:27Outdoor Experiences for Families. You have been leading
- 1:30nature hikes for years. You've been executive director of
- 1:35Fresh Air Family. You run Gross Out Camps. With all of
- 1:38this that you do, did you find a need to put
- 1:42it in writing? Absolutely. Even though we have all this internet and
- 1:45everything, it's hard to really find a great place to go hiking
- 1:49that's going to be suitable to the activities you want to do, to the age
- 1:52you are, to the age of the children. And I think one thing that keeps
- 1:56people from getting outside is they don't understand where to go, when to go,
- 1:59when to go, what time to go, what's offered at the outdoor places.
- 2:03And my book encompasses everything from the stars down to the caves.
- 2:08And you have checked out every one of them. What impresses
- 2:12me is how all-inclusive this book is.
- 2:16You can take it on a hike with you. You can.
- 2:19And I wanted a guide that could really tell you where to go and what
- 2:23to do while you're there, and if you could take your pet, if there's a
- 2:26cost for it, what the hours are, and accessibility.
- 2:29Accessibility is not just about seniors, it's also about strollers
- 2:33and toddlers because some of these places can be hard
- 2:37for them to access. So I wanted to make sure you knew what time to
- 2:40go and when and how and who. The book has beautiful
- 2:45pictures. Did you take some of them? Many of them. I've been hiking this state
- 2:49for 30 years and I've taken a lot of pictures over the years. And people
- 2:53don't realize how beautiful Alabama is. And we're
- 2:56so unique, number 4 in biodiversity. We have 5 distinct
- 3:00geologic regions in the state, all the way from the mountains through
- 3:03the plains to the beaches. Everywhere you go can be just a different
- 3:07look and a different place, different plants, different everything.
- 3:11When you travel the state and were trying to decide which areas
- 3:16to put in this book, did any of them surprise you? I had several
- 3:20surprises. One of them was the Joe Farm, which I've never been to. Since the
- 3:241870s, this African American family has been farming there and
- 3:28preserving beautiful places, and it's a fantastic birding area.
- 3:33Another one was, I was looking for a place to look for the stars.
- 3:37It was Roland Cooper State Park near Camden. We had the best time. Some of
- 3:41my girlfriends and I went. It's a small state park. It's really nice
- 3:45cabins, very inexpensive, and we were sitting out there at the fire pit roasting
- 3:48veggie dogs and watching meteors come down. It was so much fun.
- 3:52So you can see a meteor shower at Roland Cooper State Park?
- 3:55Yeah, it's number 2 on the Bortle scale where you can see the Milky Way,
- 3:58you can watch meteor showers, and what a great place for grandparents to
- 4:03take grandkids. Little chipmunk trail that you can go on, there's a lake, you can
- 4:06rent a boat if you want to go or go fishing. So many things to
- 4:09do there, and it's sort of a hidden jewel. Verna, I've known you
- 4:13a long time, and you are executive director, of course, of Fresh Air Family,
- 4:17which operates, as I understand it, 100 day camps.
- 4:21What is special about the Alabama Nature Center, either for
- 4:25a camping experience or for a visit from all ages?
- 4:29Well, it has everything you want. It has wonderful trails. You can either take
- 4:33the Treetop Loop, which is a short trail that crosses a beautiful area,
- 4:37or you can go on a Turkey Ridge Trail, which is a big 5-mile
- 4:41loop that you can take. You have creeks here, there are ponds,
- 4:44there's pavilions, and There's a beautiful nature center where you can see up
- 4:48close species like the indigo snake, which are very rare,
- 4:52and the gopher tortoise, which is becoming more rare. You can see animals
- 4:55in there and watch what they do, and they have naturalists here that know everything
- 5:00from the mushrooms to the treetops. So you're talking about an indoor
- 5:04and outdoor experience, and what you were talking about,
- 5:08the gopher tortoise, the indigo snake, they are critical
- 5:12for the longleaf pine ecosystem, which is actually
- 5:16endangered. Very much so. I tell kids that the longleaf
- 5:20ecosystem, it needs fire. You have to have fire to germinate
- 5:24the seeds. You can do the controlled burns. To see a longleaf
- 5:27pine is one of the most beautiful trees, and it used to stretch
- 5:31all the way from Texas all the way up to Maryland. Now it's just in
- 5:35Alabama. We're one of the strongholds for longleaf pine. Let's talk
- 5:39more about some of the places in your book because you cover the state
- 5:44There's so many special places. Like, I took a friend of mine, was my photographer.
- 5:48We went to Splinter Hill Bog, which is near the coast, and we walked up,
- 5:52we're just talking, suddenly we went, ah, just phenomenal.
- 5:56It's in full bloom, this pitcher plant bog with all these red flowers
- 6:00and beautiful veins, and those pitcher plants are just so gorgeous.
- 6:04It smelled heavenly, and it was full of insects and butterflies.
- 6:09A lot of people think pitcher plants eat
- 6:12insects. Is that correct? Well, pitcher plants grow in bogs
- 6:16that are typically not very rich in minerals,
- 6:20so they supplement that with insects. The hairs
- 6:23go down so the insect can walk easily down to the bottom but not
- 6:28come back up, and so they have a little acid down there that sort of
- 6:30dissolves the insect, enrich their feeding. Soil feeds
- 6:34them as well, so it enriches the soil for them. So, Verna, looking through
- 6:38your book, the way it is organized is so useful because
- 6:42you have a chart of different activities, everything from
- 6:46what to what? Canoeing to biking to walking to
- 6:49hiking to astronomy, everything from caves
- 6:53and birding, a lot of birding, fishing, and places of culture
- 6:57like Moundville, geologic wonders. Cherokee Rock Village was
- 7:02another surprise. And so many wonderful places to go that orienteering
- 7:06even and swimming, wildflowers, and where you can see wildlife.
- 7:10How about pet-friendly? You know, I've added that in because I have a little terrier.
- 7:15Can you take your dog on a walk with that or not? Some places don't
- 7:18allow you to bring in your dog if there's a lot of wildlife that might
- 7:22be disturbed by barking or a dog coming in. Another thing
- 7:25that I noticed is that each chapter has suggested
- 7:29activities and learning suggestions. After all,
- 7:32nature is a teacher. It truly is, and that
- 7:36was the hardest part of what I did. 75 different STEAM tips, we call them—
- 7:39science, technology, art, and crafts. But it also gives you
- 7:43something to talk to with your children about. In this particular setting in Alabama
- 7:48Wildlife Federation, sit on a bench and see how many things you can hear
- 7:52or see for a child, things that children can get into
- 7:55and learn from. I've got all kinds of little tips in here. There's a place
- 7:59in Joe Farm where they have the swallowtail kites. So get a kite, fly a
- 8:03kite, and see how the air bends the kite in. How would you swoop
- 8:07down if you were a bird? You're talking about trips that make memories.
- 8:12Absolutely. Absolutely. One trip I went with you was to the Goat
- 8:16Island, Jackson Island. You know, that, that little goat gave me a haircut that I
- 8:21picked up. He was nibbling on my hair. It's called Jackson Lake Island,
- 8:24and it was in the Big Fish movie. Right.
- 8:28That is a fascinating place, just one of these 75
- 8:32places that you're talking about in this book.
- 8:35Are you available to do author talks? I'm quite available
- 8:39to do author talks and book signings. I really want
- 8:43to spread the word about how beautiful Alabama is and how
- 8:47much there is to do There's so many wonderful places to go
- 8:50and spectacular things to see. If you've never seen the White Chalk
- 8:54Cliffs, they're famous in England, the Cliffs of Dover. We have them in Demopolis.
- 8:59Verna Gates, thank you so much for the preview of your book, Fresh Air
- 9:03Family Alabama: 75 Engaging Outdoor
- 9:07Experiences. And we're starting here at the Alabama
- 9:11Nature Center. Thank you, Verna. Thank you so much. Joining us for our
- 9:15Back to Nature series was naturalist Verna Gates.
- 9:19Author of the book Fresh Air Family Alabama: 75
- 9:23Engaging Outdoor Experiences.
- 9:27Verna can be contacted through her website,
- 9:29vernagates.com. Thanks for joining us today for
- 9:34In Focus, which is a podcast wherever you get your
- 9:38podcasts. And feel free to get in touch at infocus@troy.edu.
- 9:45I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported
- 9:48Troy Public Radio.