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Seahawks Sell for Record $9.6 Billion, Aaron Donald Comeback Rumors & NFL Headlines · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff three and now podcast? Let's see
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Speaker 1: if I can still do this. A lot of you
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Speaker 1: guys have been dming me, hitting me up, as my
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Speaker 1: mom would say. The on the X Channel, John has
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Speaker 1: calling severed ties with you. Did you quit? Where have
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Speaker 1: you gone? So, guys, it's late June, early July, just
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Speaker 1: taking a little breather, a little family time. Enjoying vacation
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Speaker 1: would be strong when you have a baby. But I've
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Speaker 1: been Lake Tahoe, Newport Beach, just kind of hanging out
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Speaker 1: and uh, hopefully I can still do a podcast because
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Speaker 1: you know you haven't talked this long in a while. Well,
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Speaker 1: I've been talking a lot, but just not into a microphone.
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Speaker 1: We had a lot going on. Seahawks just sold tear
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Speaker 1: an armed, the stories wild the World Cup is thriving.
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Speaker 1: Connor Gregor that was It's one of the wildest things
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Speaker 1: you'll ever see. Aaron Donald by all accounts are gonna
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Speaker 1: come back. So the game plan will be podcast today,
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Speaker 1: podcast the next couple days. Not sure if I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: that's watched, and let's just let's just dive into some sports.
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Speaker 1: But I do want to start with the Seattle Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: who sold for nine point six billion dollars. One thing's
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Speaker 1: pretty key in this modern day world of pro sports
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Speaker 1: valuations and franchises, you need a lot of money to
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Speaker 1: get involved the day. And Paul Allen, which listen, one
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Speaker 1: hundred ninety four million dollars in nineteen ninety seven was
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. I remember I heard someone say
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Speaker 1: this the other day, like in the Really When reality
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Speaker 1: television show and some of the game shows that happened
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Speaker 1: when I was in junior high in high school, if
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Speaker 1: you want a million dollars, it felt like the equivalent
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Speaker 1: of giving someone twenty million dollars now, so one hundred
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Speaker 1: ninety four million dollars a ton of money. He co
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Speaker 1: founded Microsoft, and obviously he's passed away now, but his
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Speaker 1: sister just sold the thing for nine point six billion dollars,
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Speaker 1: which is a crazy amount of money. I mean, Seattle's
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Speaker 1: not exactly Chicago or New York City or the Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: So the evaluations in this league, the safety your team
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Speaker 1: can suck. You can win zero games every single year
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Speaker 1: and still make money because of the league's television agreements.
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Speaker 1: It's what makes football so unique relative to basketball and baseball.
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Speaker 1: The NBA salary caps gone down, why because of the
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Speaker 1: local television networks, which were a huge part of basketball
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Speaker 1: because they have eighty two games, are falling apart. Cable
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Speaker 1: networks aren't going to exist. Obviously in baseball, the local
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Speaker 1: inventory is massive. The NFL is all national games. We
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Speaker 1: don't have local broadcasters. They're only on the radio. So
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Speaker 1: the national television revenue entice his guys like this, who
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Speaker 1: from what Wikipedia said, he's worth like fourteen billion dollars
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Speaker 1: to want to get involved in the league. Now he
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Speaker 1: was already a minority owner in the forty nine ers.
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Speaker 1: Super successful guy started some microsystems back in the early eighties,
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Speaker 1: came over here from India in the seventies, went to Stanford.
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Speaker 1: I mean, an incredible success story. Just was watching a
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Speaker 1: Stanford business talk that he gave. I mean, this guy
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Speaker 1: came from nothing and wanted no part of being employee.
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Speaker 1: This guy, once he went to college, wanted to start
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Speaker 1: his own thing. Wasn't afraid to fail. So I admire
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Speaker 1: that mentality. Props to that guy who is crushed in life.
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Speaker 1: It's obviously since Sun microsystem became an incredible part of
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Speaker 1: a venture capitalist firm that invested in some of the
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Speaker 1: most successful companies over the last several decades in the
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Speaker 1: Internet era, so that this guy is a cash machine.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty clear by the way this
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Speaker 1: is going to operate, his wife is technically going to
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Speaker 1: be the managing partner. It's like the Waltons who bought
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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos they gave it to the son in
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Speaker 1: law Penner, you know, even though the Waltons paid for
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Speaker 1: the thing. But he's the guy. He's the boss. The
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Speaker 1: wife's gonna be lost. It's pretty clear this thing is
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Speaker 1: about his son, who I couldn't find his exact age,
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Speaker 1: but his parent. I mean, this guy and his wife
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Speaker 1: are seventy one years old, and his son, from by
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Speaker 1: all accounts, is a massive sports fan and is going
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Speaker 1: to take this thing over. If not now, I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's already been reports he's gonna have a massive role.
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Speaker 1: But this guy's gonna be leading the charge. I was
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Speaker 1: thinking about this though, typically in the NFL, and i'd
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Speaker 1: probably say sports franchises in general, but definitely over the
5:17
Speaker 1: course of the last I don't know decade when NFL
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Speaker 1: teams have sold, the franchises have been awful. Not necessarily
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Speaker 1: the valuations right that they're all making money, but in
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Speaker 1: terms of the team they've been an embarrassment. I mean,
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when Dan Snyder was basically
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Speaker 1: forced out, the Washington Redskins had one of the worst brands,
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Speaker 1: not in the NFL but in the entire league. Changing
5:41
Speaker 1: their name the owner was a joke. The team always sucked,
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Speaker 1: it didn't matter it was. It couldn't have been any worse,
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Speaker 1: and that's usually what comes to market. David Tepper buys
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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. Wasn't exactly rolling. Jimmy Haslam bought the
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown Mounts pretty well documented. And the thing in
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Speaker 1: the NFL, and this is again probably true for most franchises,
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Speaker 1: is this guy's from the Bay Area essentially right his
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Speaker 1: entire time living in America, he has been. His home
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Speaker 1: base has been Silicon Valley by all accounts. His son
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Speaker 1: is a huge forty nine er fan. In a perfect world,
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Speaker 1: if you want, he would buy the forty nine ers.
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Speaker 1: They're not available. Josh Harris owns the seventy six ers
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Speaker 1: and he owned them before he owned an NFL team.
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Speaker 1: Who do you think he would want to buy the
6:34
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. It'd be perfect, you know, synergy with the
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Speaker 1: basketball team and the NFL team. But guess what can't
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Speaker 1: do it? I mean, Jeffrey Leary ain't selling. So a
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Speaker 1: lot of times you have to buy a team that
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Speaker 1: is in a market that you don't live in, and
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Speaker 1: you have to choose are you going to move to
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Speaker 1: that market or are you not? And a lot of
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Speaker 1: times these guys become so hands on they move there
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Speaker 1: and they become very very involved. Sometimes no, but how
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Speaker 1: often do you buy a team with a Hall of
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Speaker 1: Fame general manager in the peak of his powers and
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Speaker 1: a young coach that is viewed which is very rare
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Speaker 1: in the NFL on the defensive side of the ball,
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Speaker 1: as the equivalent of like Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay.
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Speaker 1: Obviously just coming off the Super Bowl, but even if
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Speaker 1: you just remove the Super Bowl, you would say he
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Speaker 1: is easily one of the best coaches in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: And if you could draft from scratch right so obviously
7:30
Speaker 1: you'd have to factor in age. So if you remove
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Speaker 1: like the Andy Reid and the Sean Payton, of all
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Speaker 1: the guys like under fifty or fifty five years old,
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Speaker 1: he would go in the top five. Like I said,
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Speaker 1: you usually buy the Panthers, who you're gonna detonate the thing,
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Speaker 1: or you buy the Cleveland Browns, which need to be detonated.
7:50
Speaker 1: In this situation, you don't really have to do anything. Now,
7:54
Speaker 1: we're humans. When you pay a lot of money for something,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna want to put your stamp on it. But
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Speaker 1: the See Battle Seahawks for the better part of the
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Speaker 1: Internet era have been an extremely well run franchise. And
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Speaker 1: this is where Paul Allen gets a lot of credit
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Speaker 1: is in the late nineties, Mike Holmgren was the head
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Speaker 1: coach of the Packers, had been to multiple Super Bowls,
8:18
Speaker 1: created the Brett Favre situation, helped land Reggie White and
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Speaker 1: free agency, and became a coaching a head coaching star.
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Speaker 1: He was already a big name because he was an
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Speaker 1: assistant for Bill Watsh for a long time in the eighties,
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Speaker 1: but he paid him in the late nineties eight years
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Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars, which I'm pretty sure if we
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Speaker 1: looked around sports, was unheard of when it came to
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Speaker 1: a coach. That's fucking insane. Now, you know, these guys
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Speaker 1: are making fifteen twenty million dollars, But nineteen ninety nine
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Speaker 1: there were probably a lot of coaches making eight hundred grand,
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Speaker 1: making five hundred grand. Definitely, the assistants weren't making anywhere
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Speaker 1: near what they make now. So Paul Allen was ahead
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Speaker 1: of the curve. He realized the importance of having a
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Speaker 1: star guy run his franchise. And then after they kind
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Speaker 1: of hit some hard times at the end of the
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Speaker 1: Holme grewnd era, Jim morri it was just kind of
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Speaker 1: a joke. They went out and bought Pete Carroll, and
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Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll they brought in John Scheider and so
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Speaker 1: consistently that franchise has been good because he's been willing
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Speaker 1: to pay the coach a lot of money and through
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Speaker 1: that landed him a general manager that's going to be
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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. So this guy, who now
9:30
Speaker 1: for the course of the last twenty five years, maybe
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Speaker 1: even longer than that, has just been strictly investing into companies, Well,
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Speaker 1: what does a good investor do? And because the difference
9:40
Speaker 1: in sports and in business. Right, in business, the Cleveland
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Speaker 1: Browns Bad organization costs a premium. You know, it's like
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Speaker 1: it would it be that enticing, but it's pro sports.
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Speaker 1: They're the only organization you know available I want in
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Speaker 1: or the Carolina Panthers or whoever. Right, we're in business.
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Speaker 1: You typically, if you're gonna pay a premium for something,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna buy an organization that is already well run,
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Speaker 1: that's making a ton of money, and this is rolling
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Speaker 1: and then you just let the guys that you purchased
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Speaker 1: the organization for operate and you make the profits. You know,
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Speaker 1: I've I would imagine a lot of people listening to
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Speaker 1: this have known a lot of people, or you know
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Speaker 1: a lot of you guys know an individual, someone in
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Speaker 1: your community, someone through a friend who sold their business
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Speaker 1: to one of these firms and their business. I had
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Speaker 1: a good friend who's now passed away, but his family,
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Speaker 1: his dad, when I was a kid, worked in like
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Speaker 1: the union, and they installed cold boxes in grocery stores.
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Speaker 1: And he did that my entire you know, youth. He
10:49
Speaker 1: was my baseball coach in fifth and sixth grade. I
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Speaker 1: went to college with very close with his son. And
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Speaker 1: then after a certain point, probably in his mid fifties,
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Speaker 1: he said, I don't know, I just I'm now the
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Speaker 1: manager of this company working for people. He created his
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Speaker 1: own company because he's like, I have all the relationships
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Speaker 1: with the people running the grocery stores. I know this
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Speaker 1: business inside and out. So he just created his own
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Speaker 1: company that like in his mid fifties, and then I
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Speaker 1: don't know how long later, they sold the company for
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Speaker 1: millions upon millions of dollars. Because these VC firms come
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Speaker 1: in and they buy like five of them, and then
11:34
Speaker 1: they combine them and they pay you you either, you
11:37
Speaker 1: know a lot of times you get an agreement where
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Speaker 1: you stay on for a certain amount of time, maybe
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Speaker 1: two years, maybe five years, whatever, continue your payout, hit
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Speaker 1: some hit some certain marks, and then make even more
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Speaker 1: money and then just get out right where. That's usually
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Speaker 1: how it operates. Because you want to buy a company
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Speaker 1: that's rolling, that knows what they're doing and is making
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Speaker 1: a ton of money. Well, in sports is pretty rare
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Speaker 1: that you get to. You gotta pay a lot, but
12:02
Speaker 1: you get to get John Schneider and Mike McDonald and
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Speaker 1: inherit an organization loaded with young players that knows what
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Speaker 1: they're doing. Typically you buy the organization and then a
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Speaker 1: year later you will do anything to find your John
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Speaker 1: Schneider or Mike McDonald. That's not the case here. So
12:21
Speaker 1: for this family buying this organization, it's about as seamless
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Speaker 1: of a transition as you can get. And listen, this
12:29
Speaker 1: guy's been infinitely more successful than more than likely I
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Speaker 1: will ever be when it comes to his finances. But
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Speaker 1: my only recommendation would be, because I've been following sports
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Speaker 1: my entire life, let these guys cook. Man, Let these
12:46
Speaker 1: guys cook. I'm not saying you can't come in with
12:48
Speaker 1: certain ideas for the business. Whatever, that's healthy. You always
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Speaker 1: have to progress and think differently as times change. But
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Speaker 1: in terms of the football side here it doesn't get
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Speaker 1: any better. And this guy's coming for the forty nine
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Speaker 1: ers who Jed York when he took over the organization
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Speaker 1: hit some speed bumps. I mean, obviously fired Jim Harbaugh,
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Speaker 1: which did not age well for a couple of years,
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Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers became an embarrassment, and then
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Speaker 1: he hired the right to guys in. For the last
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Speaker 1: ten years his organization has been humming. They just went
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Speaker 1: on the road with a bunch of scrubs and beat
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles in a playoff game. Why because Jed
13:27
Speaker 1: York goes Kyle John, what do you need? It doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean it's always gonna work. You're dealing with human beings.
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Speaker 1: They're your assets, not computers, you know, not buildings, not
13:37
Speaker 1: things that you can guarantee the outcome for a short
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Speaker 1: or long period of time. But when you have John
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Speaker 1: Schneider and Mike McDonald running your operation, you feel pretty
13:48
Speaker 1: good for the foreseeable future. So you never know in
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Speaker 1: these situations. You know, new owners come in, they want
13:55
Speaker 1: to mix things up. But Paul Allen, who from what
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Speaker 1: I've heard, was pretty involved, you know, football, basketball. I
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Speaker 1: mean incredible. Listen, this guy had a lot of money
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Speaker 1: in the nineties and even the late eighties. He purchased
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Speaker 1: I did the math, the Blazers in Seattle Seahawks for
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Speaker 1: like two hundred and sixty five million dollars combined over
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Speaker 1: the course of like eight nine years. I think he
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Speaker 1: bought the Blazers in like eighty eight or eighty nine,
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Speaker 1: and he bought the Seahawks in ninety seven. And because
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Speaker 1: of the agreement and the trust that his sistery doesn't
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Speaker 1: have any children who got these assets had to sell
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Speaker 1: within a year of his passing, and because like the
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Speaker 1: league gave him a little leeway, they got an extra year.
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Speaker 1: And it turns out they won the Super Bowl for
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Speaker 1: that two hundred and sixty five million dollars. He sold
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Speaker 1: the two franchises in twenty twenty six for almost combined
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Speaker 1: fourteen billion dollars. That's an incredible return on investment. The
14:52
Speaker 1: other thing I was thinking is you see some of
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Speaker 1: these owners, clearly, you know, the families that bought him
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Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties for nothing relative to money now,
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Speaker 1: but even the people that bought it in the nineties
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Speaker 1: or the early two thousands, and you see their returns
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Speaker 1: on the valuations. To get a ten X on a franchise. Now,
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Speaker 1: even if it's a cheaper franchise like five or six
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Speaker 1: billion dollars, are these franchise is gonna be worth fifty
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Speaker 1: or sixty billion dollars in the next ten years. It's
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Speaker 1: hard to think it's gonna get that big. Like I
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Speaker 1: mean sometimes timing. Listen, I benefit from timing. I'm a podcaster.
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Speaker 1: If I would have been born instead of nineteen eighty
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Speaker 1: four nineteen sixty four, I wouldn't be doing this. I
15:34
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had the opportunity if I wanted to pursue
15:37
Speaker 1: a career in radio or broadcasting or talking for a living.
15:42
Speaker 1: Who knows what I would have had to do to
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Speaker 1: make that happen, right, moving different places, getting radio gigs
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Speaker 1: in places I didn't want to live. I don't have
15:50
Speaker 1: to do that. Now. I can build my own studio
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Speaker 1: and create my own product here and partner up with
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Speaker 1: Coward and do things that would not been available fifteen
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Speaker 1: to forty forever up until the last decade ish. And
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Speaker 1: I feel very fortunate, just like people that struck it
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Speaker 1: big in the seventies and eighties, if they wanted it
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Speaker 1: on pro sports, they got those teams at relatively low
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Speaker 1: valuations looking back, right, because the power of television, and
16:20
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone could have seen the power of
16:27
Speaker 1: football and the importance of football. I have a theory.
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Speaker 1: And now, just the World Cup, I saw a stat
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Speaker 1: that fifty three percent of people that watched the World
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Speaker 1: Cup through the group stage and then the first round
16:41
Speaker 1: of the knockout stage. Over half the people that watched
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Speaker 1: on Fox hadn't watched a soccer game in a year.
16:49
Speaker 1: I fall under that category. I don't even know when
16:52
Speaker 1: the last time I watched soccer game. I do not
16:54
Speaker 1: watch soccer. I don't pretend to be a soccer fan.
16:58
Speaker 1: But when I turned on the World Cup has got
17:01
Speaker 1: a couple things going. One, the broadcast from Fox kind
17:05
Speaker 1: of has an NFL feel. When you watch these games,
17:09
Speaker 1: they feel big. Now. Part of that in the NFL field.
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Speaker 1: They're playing in all the NFL stadiums, So there's a
17:14
Speaker 1: comfort level as a football guy when I see, oh
17:18
Speaker 1: they're playing at Foxboro. Oh, last night, they're playing in
17:21
Speaker 1: Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes is there. Oh, they're playing
17:23
Speaker 1: it so far, they're playing in Seattle, they play in
17:26
Speaker 1: all the football stadiums, so I feel comfortable, like okay,
17:30
Speaker 1: and then clearly the star power and as we saw
17:32
Speaker 1: with the US hockey team, because most humans do not
17:35
Speaker 1: watch hockey. If you put USA on the front of
17:38
Speaker 1: the jersey, most of us, despite what social media might
17:42
Speaker 1: tell in you are pretty patriotic and we're gonna watch
17:44
Speaker 1: and we're gonna root for you. And obviously the way
17:47
Speaker 1: it ended was an embarrassment. I mean that goal that
17:50
Speaker 1: the goalie, I mean that was an all timer and
17:53
Speaker 1: we got our we got fucking warked. But it was
17:56
Speaker 1: cool and it felt like a cultural moment. Now, there
18:00
Speaker 1: are some things about soccer that if you're a football
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Speaker 1: fan first and not a soccer guy, you're like, why
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Speaker 1: did these guys lay on the ground so long? And
18:06
Speaker 1: in basketball, for example, when you flop and you lay
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Speaker 1: there and you give up an easy layup because you
18:12
Speaker 1: don't get back on defense, who cares it's twenty five
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Speaker 1: to twenty and now it's twenty five to twenty two.
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Speaker 1: But in soccer, some of these guys flop and lay
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Speaker 1: there and then all of a sudden you give an
18:23
Speaker 1: advantage to the other team and maybe you give up
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Speaker 1: a goal. Well, you watch some of these games, you
18:28
Speaker 1: lose two to one and you can get your ass kicked.
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Speaker 1: So just lay there and leaving your teammates to dry.
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Speaker 1: I'll never understand. I won't. I think the flopping is
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Speaker 1: out of control, but there is no disputing that when
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Speaker 1: you turn on the World Cup, it feels massive, it
18:44
Speaker 1: feels huge. I mean that game they played back to
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Speaker 1: back games in Mexico. I forget whom Mexico played the
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Speaker 1: first in the first knockout stage, but the second game
18:52
Speaker 1: against England that felt like an SEC game. That felt
18:56
Speaker 1: like Alabama versus LSU. Those games at Asteca. It didn't
19:00
Speaker 1: get any better television wise. It's part of the reason
19:03
Speaker 1: sports suck so much in twenty twenty. It's like if
19:08
Speaker 1: there aren't fans in the stadium a huge part of
19:10
Speaker 1: the viewing experience. It's why college football has become the
19:13
Speaker 1: second biggest sport in America because if you turn on
19:16
Speaker 1: Penn State at night against Ohio State, it's fucking awesome.
19:19
Speaker 1: If you turn on Georgia going to Florida to night
19:22
Speaker 1: that the crowd plays a huge role. Obviously, the NFL
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Speaker 1: is you know, the crowds aren't as intense, I would say,
19:31
Speaker 1: consistently as college football, but the big games matter, right.
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Speaker 1: You watch a game in Buffalo, you watch a game
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City, you watch a game in Seattle like
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Speaker 1: you feel it, you watch it. If the Browns ever
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Speaker 1: got good, obviously the Steelers like it really adds to
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Speaker 1: the viewing experience. And watching the passion of all these
19:50
Speaker 1: people coming over here enjoying what we bring to the table,
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Speaker 1: because holy shit, we bring a lot to the table
19:57
Speaker 1: has been incredible and clearly the star. I'd never heard
20:00
Speaker 1: of this Holland guy, but I might have put a
20:04
Speaker 1: couple hundred dollars on them when they were sixteen to
20:06
Speaker 1: one to win it against England. Didn't go my way,
20:09
Speaker 1: but I was glued and watching MESSI watching him Bape,
20:13
Speaker 1: Watching all these guys, Harry Kane has been extremely enjoyable,
20:18
Speaker 1: and whether you like soccer or not, I think most
20:21
Speaker 1: people would agree, especially in the summer not much going on.
20:25
Speaker 1: The World Cup has been a massive win and I
20:29
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of parallels there. And this
20:31
Speaker 1: is one of the NFL's greatest strengths is their games matter,
20:37
Speaker 1: and when your games don't matter, right, And let's face it,
20:41
Speaker 1: regular season basketball, has it mattered in a long time.
20:45
Speaker 1: You can say, well, it's never matter. They played eighty
20:46
Speaker 1: two games. Forever. I feel like when I was younger,
20:49
Speaker 1: guys used to care more. When the talent doesn't care,
20:52
Speaker 1: the consumer's not gonna care. A baseball game. I've said
20:55
Speaker 1: this forever every game that was played today. I'm recording
20:58
Speaker 1: this on July twelfth. I don't think there's one pitch
21:01
Speaker 1: that actually matters today. I just you can't convince me. Now.
21:06
Speaker 1: You can convince me over the course of a couple
21:08
Speaker 1: of weeks if you lose fourteen straight games. Obviously, I
21:11
Speaker 1: saw the Red Sox won a bunch of games and
21:13
Speaker 1: they've kind of got back in the mix. So yeah,
21:16
Speaker 1: over the course of a week. But one individual game,
21:19
Speaker 1: it just don't matter. And soccer, all these games mattered.
21:22
Speaker 1: And in football, every game matters, and we understand that.
21:26
Speaker 1: And in a day and age where we're getting pulled left,
21:29
Speaker 1: we're getting pulled right, we got a million things taking
21:31
Speaker 1: our attention. You know, you can doom scroll for hours
21:35
Speaker 1: like you gotta matter to get my attention. And especially
21:38
Speaker 1: as you get older, you get families you get kids,
21:40
Speaker 1: you got stuff going on, you got work. You better,
21:43
Speaker 1: you better be important. And there is no disputing that
21:46
Speaker 1: when you turn on the World Cup, it feels really,
21:49
Speaker 1: really important. And that's why I think when you see
21:52
Speaker 1: these guys, these multi billionaires, this guy's a tech guy,
21:55
Speaker 1: why does he want in on the NFL? Because clearly
21:59
Speaker 1: the return on investment right just guaranteed cash flow every year,
22:03
Speaker 1: a place, the safe place to park your money. But
22:05
Speaker 1: you're part of something big, and you're part of something
22:08
Speaker 1: that matters. And you know, I've seen some discourse online.
22:11
Speaker 1: These guys aren't from Seattle, you know. Will you be
22:15
Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan? I grew up a diehard forty nine
22:19
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22:24
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22:27
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22:31
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22:35
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22:37
Speaker 1: Like my dad loved Joe Montana, like I loved everything
22:42
Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers, but unlike like Bill Simmons,
22:45
Speaker 1: still a diehard Celtics guy. I'm at the point now Now,
22:48
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22:50
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23:03
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23:06
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Speaker 1: tenfold or whatever. I wouldn't even blame. I don't care
23:11
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23:14
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23:17
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23:19
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23:21
Speaker 1: this fall? The Seattle Seahawks. Why because they're involved, it's
23:24
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23:27
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Speaker 1: all the time is take the emotion out of it.
23:32
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23:34
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23:37
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23:40
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23:43
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23:45
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24:14
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24:16
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26:30
Speaker 1: those you know if you just were not on the internet,
26:35
Speaker 1: was released. This is you know week plus old now
26:38
Speaker 1: from the Detroit Lions. He obviously was involved in a
26:42
Speaker 1: situation where he got robbed. But you cash Jewelry thought
26:48
Speaker 1: the guys that robbed him him and his buddies tried
26:51
Speaker 1: to lure them in and then kidnapped him, pistol whipped them.
26:54
Speaker 1: And now it looks like he's got red handed and
26:57
Speaker 1: in major trouble. And it got me. This is why
27:02
Speaker 1: drafting is so difficult. If you missed it, Nick Saban
27:07
Speaker 1: wrote a letter to the judge, and in that letter
27:11
Speaker 1: he said, Terry Arnold wasn't just a high character guy
27:15
Speaker 1: for me, he was someone that my family became close to,
27:19
Speaker 1: a guy that would come over to my house. Terry
27:22
Speaker 1: On Arnold coming out of Alabama would have been viewed
27:25
Speaker 1: as a good character guy, not as someone who would
27:29
Speaker 1: have been a red flag. Saban also has a pretty
27:33
Speaker 1: legendary rant. I think at a coaching clinic about Henry Ruggs,
27:38
Speaker 1: who is currently in prison, who is another guy that
27:42
Speaker 1: would have been viewed as a good character guy coming
27:46
Speaker 1: out of college. There are so many people in NFL
27:50
Speaker 1: history that were red flag guys. I saw recently Kyle Long,
27:54
Speaker 1: who now is on CBS's pregame show for the NFL.
27:58
Speaker 1: He's been with CBS for a long time. He is
28:00
Speaker 1: Howie Son, Chris's brother, and once got in a lot
28:06
Speaker 1: of trouble when he was young. He originally started I
28:08
Speaker 1: think at Florida State as a pitcher that went to
28:10
Speaker 1: junior college and had a lot of stuff going on.
28:13
Speaker 1: You can google it, and then it ended up in
28:15
Speaker 1: a orgon and became a guy that was a potential
28:18
Speaker 1: first round pick. And he went to the combine and
28:21
Speaker 1: he said, he told this story of you know, typically
28:24
Speaker 1: the good character guys, their meetings are easy. A lot
28:27
Speaker 1: of them don't even have that many meetings because teams
28:29
Speaker 1: don't want to give it away. But I looked and
28:32
Speaker 1: I was there with He was in Travis Kelcey's draft class,
28:35
Speaker 1: and Travis and I were going to every single team
28:39
Speaker 1: because Kyle Long and Travis Kelcey were viewed as major
28:45
Speaker 1: red flags coming out of college, and both of them.
28:49
Speaker 1: Kyle went on to be a pro bowler, injuries derailed
28:51
Speaker 1: his career a little bit, and is you know, a
28:53
Speaker 1: huge part of one of the major networks in America now.
28:56
Speaker 1: And Travis Kelcey is going to go down as the
28:59
Speaker 1: greatest pass catching tight end of all time and someone
29:02
Speaker 1: viewed as a cornerstone leader and tone setter for like
29:07
Speaker 1: a mini dynasty in Kansas City. And Terry On Arnold
29:11
Speaker 1: who easily could go to jail over this kidnapping pistol
29:16
Speaker 1: whipping situation, and Henry Ruggs who is currently in jail.
29:20
Speaker 1: We're not red flag guys coming out of college. So
29:24
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with human beings, and this is what
29:28
Speaker 1: vanad who just bought Seattle's gonna learn, that's a lot
29:30
Speaker 1: different than investing in Square, investing in Uber or whatever
29:34
Speaker 1: your assets are. Humans and young human beings are flawed
29:41
Speaker 1: and making decisions. And we've all heard this a million times,
29:45
Speaker 1: but who you surround yourself with can make or break you. Right,
29:54
Speaker 1: you know, your friend your close friendships especially can put
30:01
Speaker 1: you down a path towards success and put you down
30:06
Speaker 1: a path toward disasters. I was home. This was not
30:11
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, but at a wedding recently,
30:14
Speaker 1: maybe like two or three months ago. And this one
30:17
Speaker 1: guy that we went to high school with, who who
30:23
Speaker 1: who would have been probably our biggest red flag in
30:25
Speaker 1: our high school at one point in time. I remember
30:28
Speaker 1: hearing years ago him, his dad, and his brother were
30:30
Speaker 1: all in jail. And I was at this wedding and
30:32
Speaker 1: I asked a buddy, I'm like, whatever happened to this guy?
30:35
Speaker 1: He was like, actually he was killed. I'm like, how
30:38
Speaker 1: was he killed? I'm like, oh, you're sleeping with this
30:39
Speaker 1: girl whose boyfriend was in prison and got out and
30:43
Speaker 1: came home and caught him and killed him. And as
30:46
Speaker 1: sad as this may sound is, I wasn't shocked at all, right,
30:52
Speaker 1: And I knew early on, like in high school, like
30:55
Speaker 1: kind of avoided the guy, even though I liked him,
30:58
Speaker 1: like we were. He would he could easily hang with everybody,
31:01
Speaker 1: but you were hanging out with them, you just knew
31:03
Speaker 1: something could go bad at something go bad fast, and
31:06
Speaker 1: got a ton of trouble up until the day he
31:09
Speaker 1: was killed. And then there are some guys that are
31:12
Speaker 1: just on the straight and narrow, and by all accounts,
31:15
Speaker 1: Terry on Arnold was a good guy. But in this
31:18
Speaker 1: story that I read on The Athletic about the play
31:21
Speaker 1: by play of this situation, they ranted this airbnb down
31:26
Speaker 1: in Florida, and the people that were in the community
31:29
Speaker 1: of the airbnb kept saying, like some of these guys
31:32
Speaker 1: were like, what is going on here? But they dealt
31:35
Speaker 1: with Terry on a couple of times like seems like
31:37
Speaker 1: a nice guy and those people and listen, I'm not
31:42
Speaker 1: absolving him from his actions because we all make decisions
31:44
Speaker 1: and as you get older, like you have to be
31:47
Speaker 1: held accountable for everything you do, no different than getting
31:52
Speaker 1: behind the wheel of a Ferrari or a Porsche or
31:54
Speaker 1: whatever Ruggs was driving, and after boozing and flying one
32:00
Speaker 1: hundred fifty miles an hour into person, there's consequences, and
32:03
Speaker 1: obviously he's facing them now. But when you go into
32:07
Speaker 1: these drafts, and I'm not talking about talent, like JJ
32:09
Speaker 1: McCarthy just might not be able to play right. JJ
32:12
Speaker 1: McCarthy might just not have the ability to throw touch passes,
32:17
Speaker 1: comprehend defenses, and run an NFL offense. By all accounts
32:21
Speaker 1: through two years that would be the case. But when
32:25
Speaker 1: you drafted JJ McCarthy, you felt pretty good about the guy, right,
32:29
Speaker 1: the player yet to be determined. That happens a lot.
32:32
Speaker 1: Some guys you draft high and they just they're just
32:36
Speaker 1: not good enough, and sometimes they end up playing for
32:39
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years as like rotational guys backups nuts. You
32:42
Speaker 1: just shouldn't have drafted them. While you drafted them, their
32:44
Speaker 1: talent just wasn't good enough. It wasn't their character, or
32:47
Speaker 1: wasn't their work ethic, it wasn't their decision making. And
32:50
Speaker 1: sometimes you draft these bad guys. I have told the
32:52
Speaker 1: story a million times. I mean it's not my story
32:55
Speaker 1: to tell, but just because of the public story. But
32:59
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew was kicked out of LSU and was probably
33:03
Speaker 1: the number one red flag in his draft, which looking
33:06
Speaker 1: back is kind of stupid. You just smoking some synthetic weed.
33:10
Speaker 1: But he was a guy that clearly one of the
33:12
Speaker 1: most talented guys in his class. And if he wasn't
33:15
Speaker 1: kicked out of college and that never happened, he's probably
33:18
Speaker 1: going in the top fifteen. And said he goes in
33:20
Speaker 1: the third round and within a couple of years, Patrick
33:23
Speaker 1: Peterson on the Cardinals like he's a leader of the team,
33:25
Speaker 1: he's a hardbeat of the team. Then everywhere he went
33:28
Speaker 1: Houston Texans can't see Chiefs he's the team captain. So
33:32
Speaker 1: you just never know. You just have no fucking clue.
33:36
Speaker 1: And the big difference too, in college than in the NFL.
33:41
Speaker 1: You got a lot more free time in the National
33:42
Speaker 1: Football League because in college, guess what you're doing in
33:45
Speaker 1: the spring. You're on campus, you're working out, you have
33:49
Speaker 1: spring practice. The team has their kind of hands around you.
33:55
Speaker 1: Now it doesn't mean you can't get in trouble, but
33:58
Speaker 1: they have way more control. In the NFL, even in
34:02
Speaker 1: the NIL era, you have more money and you have
34:06
Speaker 1: way more free time. And as John Baxter, longtime special
34:10
Speaker 1: teams coach Presno State you worked for Lane work for Hardball,
34:15
Speaker 1: used to always say, disposable income and free time for
34:20
Speaker 1: young people can be a deadly combination. And I would
34:24
Speaker 1: add like surrounding yourself with morons can derail your life.
34:29
Speaker 1: And by all accounts, Terry On Arnold did not do
34:32
Speaker 1: a good job of surrounding himself with the right people.
34:35
Speaker 1: Because I saw Houston Texans brought him in for a
34:38
Speaker 1: physical if I had to guess, they're doing the agent
34:41
Speaker 1: a solid to try to make the judge think that
34:43
Speaker 1: like he's got I think he's in major trouble. My
34:48
Speaker 1: uneducated guests about the loss system, just knowing, just seeing
34:52
Speaker 1: some of these charges, I would say he's fucked. And
34:56
Speaker 1: I would be stunned if Terry On Arnold is playing
35:00
Speaker 1: in the NFL in twenty twenty six. Another thing I
35:06
Speaker 1: saw is that Aaron Donald it feels like a lock
35:10
Speaker 1: that he is going to play this fall. Aaron Donald
35:13
Speaker 1: is coming back to the Rams, and no basketball is
35:19
Speaker 1: dealing with this right they've had. They haven't had a
35:22
Speaker 1: repeat champion in like eight years since the Warriors with
35:25
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant. And for a long time most of my
35:27
Speaker 1: life in the NBA, it was like same three or
35:30
Speaker 1: four teams always winning and the NBA thrived. Like when
35:34
Speaker 1: I was a kid, the Yankees sort of just rattling
35:36
Speaker 1: off World Series. Guess what it was great for business?
35:40
Speaker 1: Guess what every year you know, Showeo Tani and the
35:43
Speaker 1: LA Dodgers are gonna be the favorite to win the
35:45
Speaker 1: World Series. Guess what that makes entertaining things to watch?
35:51
Speaker 1: And I think having the Rams as a team, even
35:56
Speaker 1: though they haven't won a Super Bowl in many, many years.
35:59
Speaker 1: But the vibe of are they just unbeatable is a really,
36:03
Speaker 1: really good thing for the NFL because they had it
36:06
Speaker 1: for a while with the Chiefs and everyone. I heard
36:08
Speaker 1: this all the time. I'm tired of watching them. I
36:11
Speaker 1: cannot watch Patrick Mahomes play another game. I'm tired of it.
36:17
Speaker 1: Even though every time they played they were sitting like
36:19
Speaker 1: Cowboys level ratings records, so clearly you didn't mind because
36:24
Speaker 1: you watched. And I think the Rams, which is weird,
36:27
Speaker 1: because they're in this major market in Los Angeles, they're
36:30
Speaker 1: a much bigger national story than they all local story.
36:35
Speaker 1: I now going to LA with Colin. I'm actually going
36:38
Speaker 1: this week, gonna be on Thursday and Friday is when
36:41
Speaker 1: you're there. That's a Dodger Laker town. Like the football
36:46
Speaker 1: teams feel a distant third, and honestly, they're not even
36:50
Speaker 1: in the same conversation. The Dodgers and the Lakers are
36:54
Speaker 1: part of the culture in Los Angeles, the Rams simply
36:57
Speaker 1: are not. They play there in an incredible stadium which
37:00
Speaker 1: looks unreal on the World Cup, and by all accounts,
37:05
Speaker 1: all the players want these grass fields and all these
37:07
Speaker 1: teams that have turf that put in the grass fields
37:09
Speaker 1: for FIFA, just have grass. It's it's I am pro grass,
37:14
Speaker 1: no turf. I don't understand why these owners get so
37:17
Speaker 1: cheap with the turf. It's just a line item. It'd
37:20
Speaker 1: be one thing if it was like one hundred million
37:21
Speaker 1: dollars to install grass and it was five hundred k
37:25
Speaker 1: to involve you know, install turf. That is not the case.
37:27
Speaker 1: Just put in the fucking grass. But a lot of
37:30
Speaker 1: these owners, for whatever reason, push back against it. I
37:33
Speaker 1: think there's a level of ego that they don't want
37:35
Speaker 1: to be pushed to like do what the players want.
37:40
Speaker 1: But you know, it kind of is what it is.
37:43
Speaker 1: I just think the rams are there is no disputing
37:48
Speaker 1: on paper. You don't get any better. And this is
37:50
Speaker 1: a guy who just I've seen clips over the years
37:53
Speaker 1: of him working out in his own personal gym. He
37:56
Speaker 1: looks like a just a freak still, so now can
38:00
Speaker 1: his body at thirty five years old, haven't played football
38:03
Speaker 1: in a while. It's not like they're depending on him.
38:06
Speaker 1: If he can just give him twenty snaps a game,
38:09
Speaker 1: they are going to be a massive, massive story. And
38:13
Speaker 1: I think it's really healthy for the NFL. When we
38:17
Speaker 1: went to Newport for the fourth of July, Newport Beach,
38:20
Speaker 1: I honestly have not spent enough time there. It is.
38:25
Speaker 1: It's an incredible place. You know, when I go with Colin,
38:29
Speaker 1: we're up near like Hollywood and where UCLA is. That's
38:34
Speaker 1: like Los Angeles. It's like the Los Angeles. I mean,
38:38
Speaker 1: obviously Los Angeles is massive, but like when I think LA,
38:42
Speaker 1: I think that area right Newport Beach is basically this
38:47
Speaker 1: area between San Diego and Los Angeles, which is just beautiful.
38:52
Speaker 1: I mean, it's as someone that left California and whenever
38:56
Speaker 1: someone asks, like John, are you ever going to move
38:57
Speaker 1: back in the answer is no, there's a zero chance.
39:01
Speaker 1: If anything, I'm moving east. I ain't ever moving back
39:04
Speaker 1: more west. That is one area, Like I got it.
39:07
Speaker 1: I'm going to pay, you know, fifty plus percent of
39:10
Speaker 1: my take on pay to the government. Lived by the ocean.
39:17
Speaker 1: We stayed at a pretty swanky hotel. Now, we never
39:19
Speaker 1: went on a honeymoon. We got married and then basically
39:22
Speaker 1: a month later she was pregnant and I kind of
39:25
Speaker 1: looked at it like, you know, let's take a honeymoon
39:27
Speaker 1: with a kid. Which isn't exactly a honeymoon, but it
39:30
Speaker 1: was cool and where we were staying. Someone told me
39:34
Speaker 1: this is the that they have these. I actually went
39:37
Speaker 1: there in twenty eighteen for a Fox iHeart. We did
39:43
Speaker 1: like a golf tournament with Colin and the volume wasn't
39:47
Speaker 1: even created then, but so I had stayed there before
39:51
Speaker 1: and it was like, this place is cool. And one
39:57
Speaker 1: of the last nights we were there, you know, we
39:59
Speaker 1: were we're having a few cocktails during the day. Jack
40:02
Speaker 1: was enjoying himself. But the problem is you always gotta
40:04
Speaker 1: put him in that you got he's got a nap.
40:05
Speaker 1: You can't keep him in the sun too long. So
40:07
Speaker 1: you couldn't say the pool. You know, travel with the baby.
40:09
Speaker 1: Everyone's like travel when they're young. It's like travel with
40:13
Speaker 1: the baby is not that enjoyable. It's like it's it's
40:17
Speaker 1: much easier in your home base. But you don't want
40:19
Speaker 1: to get stuck doing nothing, so you got to get
40:21
Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone a little bit. But people,
40:24
Speaker 1: I had someone text me today like, how's your vacation been.
40:27
Speaker 1: Vacation vacation pre child's a little different than this version.
40:32
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call this a vacation, but it was enjoyable.
40:36
Speaker 1: And there was these two Irish guys drinking and somehow,
40:41
Speaker 1: you know, I'd already had a few. We started talking.
40:44
Speaker 1: I ended up sitting down there and Jack's there as well,
40:46
Speaker 1: and they're like, Jack looks just like an irishman, Are
40:49
Speaker 1: you guys Irish? I was like, no, I actually don't
40:52
Speaker 1: think so. I think German, Swedish or whatever. And then
40:55
Speaker 1: he's falling asleep and freaking out, and then I introduced
40:59
Speaker 1: my something like, oh, I'm Connor's manager, and I'm Connor
41:03
Speaker 1: McGregor's boxing coach. So Maria puts takes him back to
41:08
Speaker 1: the room, like no, I'm gonna stay here and have
41:10
Speaker 1: a few. So I ended up getting relatively intoxicated with
41:14
Speaker 1: some of' connor's people. Turns out Connor was staying at
41:18
Speaker 1: the hotel, not in just the the the area where
41:22
Speaker 1: a peon stay. They have these houses I guess on
41:26
Speaker 1: the top of the hill where someone told me that
41:28
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant when he tore his achilles when he was
41:31
Speaker 1: playing for the Lakers. They rented out one of these
41:34
Speaker 1: because they're basically like a home and they got tons
41:37
Speaker 1: of rooms, tons of space and that's where he rehabbed
41:41
Speaker 1: during his you know, Achilles comeback, and Connor was staying
41:45
Speaker 1: up there and I was like, I was kind of
41:47
Speaker 1: hoping he'd come down, and like I've said this forever,
41:49
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge UFC guy, Like I don't buy
41:54
Speaker 1: the pay per views, like I follow the sport through
41:57
Speaker 1: social media. I admire the mental of the business and
42:01
Speaker 1: how successful they are, but I'm not like some diehard
42:05
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be. I don't like, I'm not
42:07
Speaker 1: that into it, even though like I respect the hell
42:09
Speaker 1: out of anyone that's wanted to get in the octagon
42:12
Speaker 1: and what they did in twenty twenty. They're like we're
42:14
Speaker 1: coming back when everyone's like hi from your shadow, and
42:17
Speaker 1: Dane's like fuck this, we're fighting and everyone followed suit.
42:21
Speaker 1: But I just think that I kind of bought in
42:25
Speaker 1: because we're having cocktails that his boxing coach was shit house.
42:29
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about stereotypical irishmen boozed up, we're
42:33
Speaker 1: have a good time, and I was talking about, you know,
42:35
Speaker 1: I went to college with Chad Mendez and they were
42:37
Speaker 1: saying that Connor respects Chad even though he beat them,
42:40
Speaker 1: and I was like Okay, I'm fired up for this fight.
42:42
Speaker 1: And because I don't know what show we've watched on Paramount,
42:46
Speaker 1: but I like every streaming service I have it, which
42:48
Speaker 1: I think is a huge benefit because I don't know
42:50
Speaker 1: if I would have bought the pay per view, you know,
42:54
Speaker 1: but I have Paramount Plus. They're in business Paramount Plus.
42:56
Speaker 1: I just click it and there boom, it's on. So
42:59
Speaker 1: about eight feet ten he comes out. All of a sudden,
43:02
Speaker 1: Maria looks at me and goes, wait, is that it
43:06
Speaker 1: is it over? And I'm like, yeah, I think it's
43:10
Speaker 1: just done. And the thing with I was thinking about this,
43:15
Speaker 1: Even if you turn on a terrible football game or
43:17
Speaker 1: a terrible basketball game or terrible whatever, you know it's
43:21
Speaker 1: sixty minutes long. You know, you got three hours to
43:24
Speaker 1: just sit there and watch something. You could watch a
43:27
Speaker 1: blowout of one hundred and fifty to one hundred, and
43:29
Speaker 1: you got forty eight minutes of basketball. You got nine
43:32
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43:36
Speaker 1: minutes plus. I don't know exactly, not all soccer does it,
43:39
Speaker 1: but there's always some plus and some extra number with
43:41
Speaker 1: the running clocks. But you know, in fighting you have
43:45
Speaker 1: no clue, And I think, like, I don't pretend to
43:48
Speaker 1: be some fighting aficionado here. I don't think I've ever
43:51
Speaker 1: seen anything like that, And I think it shows you.
43:54
Speaker 1: And this is people ask me whenever we're like back
43:58
Speaker 1: in Lake Tall, like do you ski? I'm like, yeah,
44:00
Speaker 1: I did when I was like twenty, but I haven't
44:02
Speaker 1: in fifteen twenty years. Do you want to you want
44:06
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44:10
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44:12
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44:16
Speaker 1: I played when I was JA at Fresny State. I
44:19
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44:21
Speaker 1: with the Eagles in the offseason. I used to play
44:24
Speaker 1: a little bit when I moved back to the Bay Area.
44:26
Speaker 1: Like it was enjoyable. It was just like, hey, instead
44:28
Speaker 1: of just running on the treadmill, let's just go get
44:31
Speaker 1: a run. You couldn't pay me to pay play pickup basketball.
44:35
Speaker 1: I'm not any good, but I enjoyed playing, just like
44:37
Speaker 1: a lot of people that aren't any good enjoy playing.
44:39
Speaker 1: You get a legit sweat, you get to compete a
44:41
Speaker 1: little bit, you get to play. I'm not tearing my achilles.
44:44
Speaker 1: I remember, like within the last five ten years, Daniel Jeremiah,
44:48
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44:51
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it because as you get older, your
44:55
Speaker 1: body ain't the same. And by no means am I
44:57
Speaker 1: some Connor McGregor athlete. But I think a lot of
44:59
Speaker 1: you listening probably agree. That's why a lot of us
45:02
Speaker 1: kind of morph over to golf. That's my one activity,
45:05
Speaker 1: you know, beside working out and stuff in a controlled
45:09
Speaker 1: environment on a treadmill, run outside, hike whatever. But I'm
45:14
Speaker 1: not doing the sports. Why because my body. I don't
45:16
Speaker 1: want to be on crutches. I don't want to have
45:19
Speaker 1: to go to physical rehab if I can avoid it.
45:21
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45:26
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45:36
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Speaker 1: had last night, unless it has been debated whether he
46:46
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46:50
Speaker 1: picture or the video of him taking off shoes, acted
46:54
Speaker 1: like he was kind of weird on the knee, even
46:56
Speaker 1: though they showed some of his like warm up kicks
47:00
Speaker 1: before he came out, kind of doing those crazy Bruce
47:04
Speaker 1: Lee kicks. But like that's what happens when you get old.
47:08
Speaker 1: And Charles Barkley's been saying this since he's been on
47:11
Speaker 1: TV father times undefeated Connor. Greg's thirty seven years old.
47:15
Speaker 1: There's a lot of wear and tear on that body.
47:18
Speaker 1: And you watched that first moment, and at first live
47:21
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on, right, I'm just excited.
47:24
Speaker 1: Just kind of got me interested. One just being around
47:27
Speaker 1: those guys and seeing they kind of got me to believe.
47:30
Speaker 1: And then two, just the hype behind this fight. It's
47:32
Speaker 1: pretty rare. He clearly is the most famous UFC fighter
47:35
Speaker 1: in the history of the sport. I thought when I
47:38
Speaker 1: was at cal Pauly, I was a round one in
47:40
Speaker 1: Chuck Ladell. He was at cal Pauly Grad. He used
47:42
Speaker 1: to train in San Luis Obispo. This is like the
47:44
Speaker 1: peak of his powers in like three four oh five range,
47:48
Speaker 1: and it was cool the iceman, and then all of
47:50
Speaker 1: a sudden he got old, and he got old fast,
47:52
Speaker 1: and then it was just over. That's usually how it
47:55
Speaker 1: happens in sports. Tom Brady is the only guy that
47:58
Speaker 1: I can remember who who could play up until an
48:01
Speaker 1: age when you're not supposed to be playing, and honestly
48:04
Speaker 1: looked no different. His arm never failed him all the
48:08
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's arm was dramatically different. Drew Brees's shoulder stopped working.
48:14
Speaker 1: He was throwing like fifty million hour fastballs. Peyton Manning
48:17
Speaker 1: could barely throw at twenty yards his last year in Denver.
48:20
Speaker 1: That's normal. That's usually how it works for athletes. Tom Brady,
48:25
Speaker 1: the version of him is an outlier. Aaron Rodgers achilles injury,
48:30
Speaker 1: broken arm this year. It would be incredible if Aaron
48:35
Speaker 1: Rodgers can play seventeen games. Besides, like you're wear and
48:38
Speaker 1: tear of playing the sport, not suffer a major injury
48:42
Speaker 1: that is not normal at forty two years old, like
48:45
Speaker 1: Lebron James. How the fuck is he doing that? And
48:49
Speaker 1: I would say the longer he plays, the more likely,
48:51
Speaker 1: And he's had over the course of the last couple
48:53
Speaker 1: of years of growing injury some different things. It's really
48:56
Speaker 1: really hard to avoid why, because your body ain't the same.
49:00
Speaker 1: It's very well established at this point in time in
49:05
Speaker 1: human history. I don't care what type peptides, workout regimens,
49:12
Speaker 1: protein shakes you're taking, how well you sleep, how many
49:15
Speaker 1: cold bass and infrared saunas you use. Your body's gonna
49:19
Speaker 1: give up at some point in time or another. When
49:21
Speaker 1: you're a high level athlete. Hell, when you're an average athlete.
49:25
Speaker 1: And so when Connor McGregor that moment was shocking, and
49:29
Speaker 1: I get why they wrote him. I was watching some
49:32
Speaker 1: YouTube show and they were saying that broke a gate.
49:34
Speaker 1: It's like twenty five million dollars. The getting priced last
49:37
Speaker 1: night was enormous. I mean, some of those people paying
49:39
Speaker 1: the ticket prices, but that's what you get when you
49:43
Speaker 1: buy some of these fights. Sometimes they're boring. It's like
49:47
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather versus Oscar de la Hoya, or Floyd Mayweather
49:51
Speaker 1: versus Mani Paccio. You're like, that sucked. And sometimes it's
49:55
Speaker 1: like it just ends because the guy gets injured. A
49:57
Speaker 1: guy can't fight. I have a lo a lot of respect,
50:01
Speaker 1: and again I don't know haul away from the man
50:03
Speaker 1: standing next to me, but I do think that a
50:06
Speaker 1: lot of fighters I get they had fought before a
50:09
Speaker 1: long time ago, would have just attacked and you could
50:13
Speaker 1: tell early on he kind of said something was off,
50:16
Speaker 1: and then by the time when the fight was called,
50:18
Speaker 1: he's basically just pointing at him, like what are we
50:20
Speaker 1: doing here? I do wonder how many guys in that
50:23
Speaker 1: situation against someone that famous in the sport of violence
50:28
Speaker 1: would have just attacked and made the referee call it.
50:31
Speaker 1: He did the opposite. He pointed at him early on,
50:34
Speaker 1: and then at the end he's like, I'm not touching
50:36
Speaker 1: this guy. He can't move. But that was crazy. I
50:43
Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. I don't remember an
50:47
Speaker 1: event that was as hyped that ended as fast. And
50:53
Speaker 1: when I see, like, you know, the fight ended in
50:55
Speaker 1: sixty nine seconds. The fight literally ended the moment it
50:59
Speaker 1: started because he tried. I had that Bruce Lee jump,
51:02
Speaker 1: you know, three sixty kick and blew out his knee.
51:06
Speaker 1: And then some of the videos of him leaving after
51:09
Speaker 1: just in his shorts, barefoot in the back of T
51:13
Speaker 1: Mobile arena kind of made me laugh. But man, I
51:18
Speaker 1: can't even imagine the anticipation in that arena when Connor
51:25
Speaker 1: walks out. They're both in the octagon, and it was like, Okay,
51:30
Speaker 1: I don't know how this is gonna go, but we're
51:31
Speaker 1: gonna get a brawl. And then to have the thing
51:34
Speaker 1: just end, you're like, it's just over. What do we
51:38
Speaker 1: do now? That had to suck last, but not least
51:45
Speaker 1: not necessarily a Dad Diaries, But I had this thought
51:48
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. We went home to uh
51:51
Speaker 1: Maria was in a wedding, so we went home a
51:53
Speaker 1: little early and we went up to Lake Tahoe. Some
51:56
Speaker 1: of her close girlfriends and their husbands were there. One
51:59
Speaker 1: of a stayed, we stayed together, and the others they
52:04
Speaker 1: rented a house with their family and we're just all
52:06
Speaker 1: together hanging out for like three or four days. It
52:07
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. And we drove from Sacramento area.
52:13
Speaker 1: My mom lives in Davis, which is right next Sacramento
52:17
Speaker 1: up to Top, which is you know, give or take
52:19
Speaker 1: no traffic can be two ish hours, and her mom
52:24
Speaker 1: had bought a car seat, so we had a car
52:26
Speaker 1: seat whenever we come home. Her mom lives probably forty
52:29
Speaker 1: five minutes away from my mom, so they're in the
52:30
Speaker 1: same general area, and bought us his car seat. Well,
52:34
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the car seat is different than the
52:37
Speaker 1: car seats we have. And for those of you with
52:39
Speaker 1: car seat strollers, they just in theory they're easy. There's
52:44
Speaker 1: always a button and they just collapse. But if you
52:47
Speaker 1: don't know the button, you're just fucking bending the thing
52:50
Speaker 1: and you can't figure it out, and eventually you just
52:52
Speaker 1: want to ram your head against the wall. I don't
52:54
Speaker 1: know what to do. So I put him in the
52:57
Speaker 1: car seat and we load up and we're headed to
53:01
Speaker 1: and he screams at the top of his lungs for
53:06
Speaker 1: essentially two plus hours. We pulled over multiple times. She
53:11
Speaker 1: climbed in the back. Eventually we pulled over. We had
53:14
Speaker 1: to move stuff out of the back so she could
53:15
Speaker 1: sit in the back with them. Nothing worked, and it
53:20
Speaker 1: hit me if I was an NFL general manager and
53:23
Speaker 1: I wanted to evaluate a quarterback in their mental fortitude,
53:28
Speaker 1: if you could drive for I'd even put the number
53:32
Speaker 1: like seventy five minutes, but anything two hours, two and
53:35
Speaker 1: a half hours, three hours with a screaming baby and
53:40
Speaker 1: not absolutely mentally collapse. You could handle the Denver Broncos
53:46
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. You could handle Will Anderson coming
53:49
Speaker 1: at you with five minutes to go down four drive
53:52
Speaker 1: in the field because I broke immediately. It's just it
53:57
Speaker 1: is this piercing scream that is like anger pain. You
54:04
Speaker 1: don't even know because they can't talk, and you're just
54:08
Speaker 1: you're trying to keep your eyes on the road because
54:12
Speaker 1: you don't want to drive off the mountain. And turns
54:15
Speaker 1: out when we got there there was a setting where
54:17
Speaker 1: you could lay it down a little bit farther. He
54:20
Speaker 1: was kind of a wreck, so it might have been
54:21
Speaker 1: like borderline child abuse because I couldn't figure out this
54:25
Speaker 1: car seat, so I got on YouTube. I'm watching all
54:28
Speaker 1: these tutorials. Didn't really help that much. He still didn't.
54:32
Speaker 1: He's not a huge fan of this car seat because
54:36
Speaker 1: in Newport we rented a car and they had a
54:39
Speaker 1: car seat that came with the car, and it was
54:41
Speaker 1: the same one and he hated it. He just whatever
54:43
Speaker 1: reason doesn't fit. I don't know, but if you could
54:47
Speaker 1: handle your shit for multiple hours, I think you can
54:50
Speaker 1: play quarterback in the NFL. Because that is the one
54:54
Speaker 1: thing with crying when especially your first child, you're just
54:58
Speaker 1: not used to it. You hear baby cries sometimes an
55:01
Speaker 1: airplane or like your friend's baby or whatever, but you
55:05
Speaker 1: can always leave. You know, eventually the plane lambs, and
55:08
Speaker 1: that person has to deal with when it's yours and
55:10
Speaker 1: yours around and he's just crying. It's just it mentally
55:13
Speaker 1: tests you. And I'm not proud to say I've broken.
55:17
Speaker 1: I've mentally collapsed. So maybe what QUESSI should have done
55:23
Speaker 1: is put JJ in a car with a baby and
55:26
Speaker 1: just set them from Minnesota to like Cleveland, Ohio, and
55:29
Speaker 1: just see how it went. Put a GoPro in there
55:33
Speaker 1: and just monitor that I would do that before I
55:37
Speaker 1: did the wonder Lick test. We'll be back all week long,
55:40
Speaker 1: well at least the next couple. I don't know if
55:42
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do one on on Thursday. I'm gonna be
55:44
Speaker 1: down doing uh at Fox for a couple of days,
55:47
Speaker 1: but the game plan will be for the last couple.
55:49
Speaker 1: I have had a lot of people like, did you quit,
55:52
Speaker 1: did you get fired? Did they cancel the show? Did
55:56
Speaker 1: you go become a monk? Where are you? Like? No,
55:59
Speaker 1: I just too a couple of weeks of my family
56:01
Speaker 1: in the middle of July when nothing was going on,
56:03
Speaker 1: and that turns out a lot was going on. Uh So,
56:05
Speaker 1: I I've I've watched a lot of soccer. I've consumed
56:08
Speaker 1: a lot of soccer. But hopefully everyone's doing well and
56:12
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