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The Jason Mewes Interview · The Recess Bell

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This production is brought to you by the Reesa's Gull. I'm here talking with
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Jason Muse, who performing with Kevin Smith Sunday, April twenty eighth at the
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Paramount in Huntington as part of their Jay and Silent. Bob get old toward
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Jay. This is such an honor. How are you doing, buddy,
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I'm very good, very good. I get so nervous and starstruck when talking
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to celebrities. Is there a moment in your career where you were sharing the
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screen or the stage with somebody and you're just incomplete awe of like, oh
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my god, I can't believe I'm with this guy right now. I mean,
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oh my gosh. Honestly, you know, the good thing is,
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I feel like there's been many. Sorry, so there's been many, honestly
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over the years, like getting to work with Will Ferrell, Chris Rock all
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of them. Is I'm always feeling a little you know, I guess awkward
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and stuff. But but you know it's like usually we're doing a scene together
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or whatever, and I sort of, I guess I just try to get
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in there. But yes, I would say the one that stands out to
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me is, you know, it's things, because over the years people are
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always like, oh my gosh, what was it like hanging out with George
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Carlin and stuff? You know. That one for me was like, like
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I admired George Carlin because Kevin would talk about him so much, and I
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knew who he was, and I know he's a genius and all that.
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But I when I was with him and Kevin, they would like have these
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conversations and they both use you know, like big words, and they would
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talk about his book, and they would talk about some of his stand up,
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like Kevin knew his stand up. Kevin knew everything like Kevin watched and
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read and everything about George. So they would have these conversations and I would
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stand there next to them, and I wouldn't have anything to, you know,
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involve myself in the conversation, so I would just stand and listen.
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And so I would say, out of most of people like someone like him.
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Honestly, he was someone that it was really awesome to work with and
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stuff. But I felt like I've really never had like a loan, Like
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I never really had a great conversation with them because I was in I was
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like intimidated by him and stuff. I didn't feel like I had anything smart
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to say or anything funny to say to him, So but definitely him,
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And then I would definitely say Stanley. You know, Stanley was was our
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first studio movie, maulrat You know, we did Clerks, but Clerks was
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just a bunch of friends. But Malratz was the first time We're in Minnesota.
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We're staying in a hotel where you know, there's wardrobe and stunt guys
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and and stan Lee is like I was reading. That's how Kevin and I
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really started bonding over comic books, and like, now here I am getting
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to meet Stanley and it was so still real to me. Like so that
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was my first like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm meeting Stanley
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and this is so surreal. And I chatted with him a little bit and
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stuff like that. But George Carlin, I would say, is the one
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who like I felt like, oh my gosh, I mean, but there's
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so many Again, I got the Luke Scott, like you know, Mark
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Hamill, Carry Fishers, Kerry Fisher. Yeah, like but again them,
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I feel like carry Fisher. I was able to sit and chat with and
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have a great We had a couple of great conversations. Same with Mark Hamill,
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Like, I don't know, there's like I feel like there was most
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of the people like I would feel intimidated, but I would. I would,
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I felt like I had something to contribute to the conversation. But with
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George Carlin, I just was super nervous. I felt like I didn't have
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anything that I could contribute and I just never really got to have like a
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moment with him. So but yeah, those again, I hope that makes
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sense that yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. Now you mentioned
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stan Lee and Kevin Smith was was sort of a pioneer with having the stan
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Lee cameo because that every Marvel movie, you know, while he was alive,
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you would see this dan Lee camo. Is there a Marvel property that
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you think is the top of the class, you know? Is it the
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X Men? Is it Spider Man? And have you been keeping up with
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any of these, you know, shows and movies that have been coming out
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lately. You know, the X Men animated show just came back a few
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weeks ago and it has been really good. You watching any of them?
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Excited? Well, you know what, I watched the first episode and I
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thought they were going to put them all out at the same time. So
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I watched the first one thinking i'd get the binge watch, but I realized
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they weren't putting them all out, So I'm honestly I want to wait because
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I love it. Like I'll be on. I know it sounds so goofy,
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but seriously, like when the opening started with the music and like,
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seriously brought me back to my childhood, like I loved watching that the original
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back then I'd watched. I've seen every episode multiple times, so I'm just
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saying, so, yes, I watched the first episode and I'm very excited
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about it, but I really don't want to wait till each week, so
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I want to wait till they all come out, and I'm just gonna binge
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watch all of them. But yeah, I mean, I pretty much.
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I try to keep up. You know, I've watched I started watching Echo
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recently, you know, because I love Vintatinofria. I think he's amazing,
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so I can't wait, like I'm waiting. So I started watching Echo,
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but I haven't got to finish it yet. But yeah, I've I've watched
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all the TV shows, I watched all the movies. I mean, I
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enjoy all of them. I don't think there's a bad one, honestly,
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because even if I feel like, oh man, this wasn't up to like
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I was expecting more and I thought it was going to be better, but
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it's still is exciting to me because again I watch I think about way back
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in the day, I remember going to comic conventions in like ninety eight and
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like seeing the Fantastic Four movie, you know, someone boot like the VHS
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and you could buy it at one of the boots, and then watching it
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and that this the you know, the special effects were so bhead and the
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movie, but it was still like, oh my gosh, there's a fantastic
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for live action movie. And then The Punisher with Dolph Lungdren but he didn't
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even have the skull, you know, he didn't even have the skull like
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the Outfitter. But it still was exciting that they were attempting to do it.
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And here we are years and years later, like well just saying for
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me to for them to have comic book movies, live action movies, all
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the comic books that grew up reading, to have all these movies and get
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to see all these characters like I used to what I used to. I
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remember watching, uh in the beginning when the movies first came out, you
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know, the X Men movie came out. I feel like it's one of
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the first. Like they had these little like up in the up in the
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screen on the TV and the bar they would be there would be a scene
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between two characters and then the top it would say Hank McCoy you know,
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which I knew was the beat. Yeah, but like no one else did,
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Like no one else didn't know comics knew what it was. I mean,
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people who knew comics did, of course, But like that excited me
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because I'm like, yeah, this is my world, Like this is my
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I mean, and now you know, since Avengers and everything, like so
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many people love comics know more about comics and it's a different time now.
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But yeah, so anyway, I know, again, I don't know if
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I answered your question. You answered several questions, but yeah, it is
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crazy that you know, you go to a target, you go to a
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Walmart, you see you know, uh, you know, you know,
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mom and pop and then you see, you know, a teenage girl all
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wearing like Captain America's shirts. It's certainly a different time. If I when
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I was growing up, you know, I was one of the few people
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wearing a green lantern shirt to school, and you know, you get bullied
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for it. But now you know, you're just one of the you know,
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normal people now if you're if you're rocking superhero memorabilia. And I think
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that's a smart idea though, what you're saying with the The X Men show
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and and uh binging it because every week it sort of ends and I just
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cannot wait for the next week. So avoid spoilers at all costs. But
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I'm telling you, Jay, this is better written and I think a better
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show than an original sho from the early nineties. It's it's really high quality
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stuff. So I think you're gonna run. Yeah. My one friends where
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he texted me going, hey, did you watch episode I don't remember if
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it was five, Episode five is the one? Yeah. Yeah. He's
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like, it's probably the best episode of television out there right now. And
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I was like, really, it's that good. He was, I'm not
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kidding you. I was like, well, I can't wait to see it,
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but I'm waiting. Yeah. It was one of those uh you know,
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you just stuck watching the credits with your jaw open just in awe that
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they actually went that And we're not going to spoil anything, but it is
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insane that they went that route. You mentioned Vincent Inafrio. Now I know
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Kevin Smith has said that Nicholas Cage is an actor that he would love to
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work with to direct. Is there somebody you can even pick, somebody that's
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dead or live that you would love the opportunity to share the screen with.
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Oh, I mean, I I would want to say, I guess Vincent
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oub but I feel like i'd be if I was doing a scene with him.
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I would feel, you know, nervous that I'm going to mess up
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my part and like it would upset him, and and I don't know,
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so like it's like I think of all these things, but I guess him.
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I mean, honestly, I really really dig him, not just because
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of the because he's the kingpin, but I've watched Law and Order Criminal Intent,
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like over and over again. It's like one of my favorite shows.
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Or I would say, you know who is Honestly, it's goofy, But
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I'm a huge murder she wrote fan and I would love to work with Jessica
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Fletcher, which isn't her real name, Angela Lansbery. I know it's I
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know it's such a weird pool, but it's I just think she's like,
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I don't know that show, like I used to watch Out My mom My
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Mom's Past now, but that's the show we used to watch together, and
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I still love this show. Every once in a while go on Peacock and
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watch it over again, even though I've seen it a bunch of times.
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So I don't know. I would say, if I'm going for someone like
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classic for me, Angela Lansbury someone now, I'll just throw out Vincent Zenoffrio.
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But there's many. I'm sure there's there's many. Like you know,
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I go to comic conventions and it's so surreal to me now even I've done
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a bunch, But like I'll go in the green room and all of a
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sudden it'll be like William Shatner, Brust Campbell, Vincent Zenoffio, and I
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always get intimidated and I'll leave the green room. Like a lot of people
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hang out and sit down at the table and like eat lunch and stuff with
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everybody, and I'm always like I still even though I'm there, like I'm
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I have the green room pass but I still feel like I don't belong there.
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You're an outsider. That's sort of like maybe how you felt with the
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George Carlin thing, like you don't belong exactly exactly. No, I still
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think I've been doing it thirty years and I still you know, I still
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feel I just don't feel I still feel like like I don't fit into the
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to the world, even though you know, we've done tons of stuff and
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I love doing what I do. It's like I got to direct. I
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don't know if you know, you know, I directed one movie so far.
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I directed a movie called Madness in the Method, and I got to
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direct stan Lee before he passed. Wow, he did a cameo in my
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movie, and that was really amazing for me, Like, not only that
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he was in my movie that I'm directing, but I actually got to direct
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him and and and he came down and hung out for a couple hours,
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and that was pretty surreal for me. But yeah, so you mentioned the
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comic conventions. You know, I'm a big you know, convention guy.
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I actually just went to a convention in New Jersey to meet a bunch of
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athletes and the one guy I idolized you know. His name's Drew Bletzo.
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He's a football player from back in the day. And I drove, you
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know, two and a half hours to meet him. I spent all this
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money to meet him and you just sort of walk up to him, you
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shake his hand, and then you know, he spent like twenty seconds with
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me. So when people meet you at a convention, I guess it really
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depends, like do you have time to really chat with them or is that
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sort of the norm, like you just have to, you know, take
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the picture, sign the autograph, move on. I feel like you'd be
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more personable though, No, yeah, no, I mean honestly, just
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to get his back. It depends. Here's my thought is I feel like
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I have time because I usually what I'll do is I'll sit and chat with
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someone and if they start to go like like five minutes, it depends.
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I feel like if it's a busy convention, I mean, you gotta think
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I always feel bad because you'll see people lined up for people like, I
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don't know if this person you're talking about how to line waiting around the door
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and he's only there one day. Of course he's got to be quick because
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he's got to get through the other two hundred people. If he spends ten
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minutes with you, yeah, he's not going to be able to spend ten
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minutes for everyone. Otherwise the show is going to be like, hey,
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we're closing, everyone has to leave. So I always feel but like when
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we do photos, it's like that when you do the professional photos, if
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you have three hundred people, you only have like a two hour window to
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take three hundred pictures. And I know Kevin does always feels bad because people
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will come in and they've been waiting in line for an hour and then they're
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like all right, and you take a pose, they take the picture,
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they're like next and they scoot outa you barely get to say hello. But
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again, it stinks, but at the same time, it's you have to
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get through everyone. There was one time where we literally went over and they
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were closing and we didn't even get to get to the last like twenty people,
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and we winded up being like, I'm sorry, can we go outside,
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We'll take some selfies with you. But it just didn't. So I'm
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just saying, unless if he didn't have a line and he didn't spend five
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minutes to you, then that's a bummer. I feel like that's you know,
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there was no one behind you, or even let be five people behind
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you. I feel like when there's not a lot of people waiting, like
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if it's a slower show, I'll sit and spend fifteen minutes. And if
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it is busy and someone say, hey, man, I really want to
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talk to you about something like you you know, me and my dad had
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this thing and I want to tell you. And if there's a line of
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people, I'll say, hey, listen, can you come you here for
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the next couple days? Can you come around and if you see no one
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at my table, come over and we'll sit in chat for ten minutes.
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And usually people will do that unless they're leaving. They might go, oh,
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man, I'm leaving today after drive five hours. Then I'll say,
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well, can you come back in like a half hour, and let's see
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if people there's no one at my table, then we could chat a little
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longer. You know. Yeah, Well, Jason Muse is a man of
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the people. That's why he will talk to you. Now you have to
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do you know that. I've heard, sorry, I have heard stories though,
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of people who just in general don't want to chat. I've heard that
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some people like will literally not even look up at the person. They'll find
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their name, they won't personalize it, and they won't even look at the
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person. They'll go next. Yeah, and I don't think that's very nice.
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I don't think that's especially some of them. You know, it's not
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you're waiting a long time, and it's not cheap, you know. So
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yeah, I've heard I've heard Susan Sarandon lately at some of these conventions.
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Not very pleasant to be around. But you know, Jay, you're going
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to be at the Paramount on the twenty eighth. As we were talking fucking
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at the beginning of this for Jay and Silent Bob get old you and Kevin
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Smith, So what can fans expect from the show? You know? It's
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it's what's been fun about this is like it's sort of like a peek into
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like what's what if someone's like, hey, I haven't seen especially for us,
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we haven't done a movie, you know, and a little bit,
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and people are wondering what we're up to. It's like, use it.
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Kevin and I open up. We tell a few stories. You get to
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hear some stories about what's going on with me and Kevin, like, you
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know, this is what on our way here on the plane, this crazy
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thing happened. And you know, Kevin and I last week went here and
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guess what happened. And we tell some stories and we tell then we'll tell
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some stories from like maybe the last movie we made. We just did a
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cruise. We did the Jay and Sell and Bob Cruise. Askew, it
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was our first one. So we we you know, we'll probably tell a
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couple of fun stories about that, and then then usually we wind up,
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you know, we play a game at the end. We we we read
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something maybe something Kevin wrote that hasn't been out there yet. Like again,
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nothing set in stone, but it's just it's just for me. It's I
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feel like it's just a peek into what's been going on with Kevin and I
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and what's what's in the future, what we're gonna be doing, something maybe
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people are expecting or hoping or wondering about. And then a couple of games
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and some stuff. So again, it's it's been fun for us for the
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past. I mean, we've done it for eight years. We've taken sort
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of a break. We've done a couple here and there, but it'll be
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nice. We're gonna be on the East Coast and our hometown will be Jersey,
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New York. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm like excited
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about it. And plus, Kevin and I haven't done on the wall,
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so we have a a lot of stories to tell and a lot of fun
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stuff to talk about. Things that are happening, Like we have some movies
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coming up. I don't want to say I'm here because we're gonna talk about
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stuff on there and some things that are coming up in the future, things
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that have happened in the past. I got kids now, so I got
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some funny stories. I'm gonna talk about my kids, and so well we
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speaking of your your kids and your family. How important I know you've been
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open about some of the issues that you've had in the past, and I've
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heard you on Steve O's podcast, you know, talk about some of your
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you know, your substance issues that you've dealt with. You've been sober for
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quite some time. How important is having your wife Jordan, who is awesome
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from everything I see with her, and you know, being a dad.
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How important has that been into your sobriety? Definitely super I mean, it's
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it's been honestly having the kids, you know, the podcast was a huge
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help for me keeping straight, like, you know, because Kevin and I
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would tour like every weekend, and so I was so busy and we'd be
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talking about it. And what was great about the podcast is we used to
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do account like, hey, I have thirteen years you know, two years
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sober, three years sober. And I felt very accountable. Like I even
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used to have bad dreams when we'd we'd be on the road, I'd have
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a dream that I went out and drank, and I'd be like, oh
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my god, I have to get on stage tomorrow and tell you know,
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eight hundred people or whatever amount of people that I have one day sober now
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because I messed up. And that used to terrify me. So it was
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honestly such a help that we would be doing this because and also I'd be
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out somewhere and someone would say, hey, dude, I listen to the
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podcast. How many days sober? So people would call me out constantly.
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So the first eight years, man, it was such a help for me
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to stay on the on track and then not at the same time. Don't
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get me wrong, I was with my wife, and she was a big
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help. Of course she's always supportive, and of course I didn't want to
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disappoint her. And then when with the kids, that just added to it.
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It's like I'm so busy bringing the kids to the doctor or then to
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school, picking her up from school, bringing her to ballet, you know.
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And the little man right now, he's running around like a madman.
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He wakes up at you know, five point thirty six, so, you
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know, So it's like I'm just constantly not only wanting to disappoint and be
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able to be the present for my family. It's like I don't want to
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disappoint them, and I just and at the same time, I don't have
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time, like it's I don't not that I don't not not that I couldn't
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sneak around, but it's not like I have time to like go hang out
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at a bar and get myself in trouble, like I just don't do that.
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And and it's been it's been amazing, Honestly, the family has been
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like what I've wanted for forever. Kevin always talks about it, like,
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you know, when I was twenty five thirty, I say, like,
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man, I really want a family. I want to start a family.
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And even even when I was a mess, you know, i'd be a
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mess, and I'd still that would be my ideal like scenario of what I
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thought was, you know, a productive life is working and having a family,
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and and I have that now. So it's been it's been awesome.
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And like I said, I'm here to visit one of my good friends his
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daughter's want first birthday, and we're out in Santa Barbara and so we're making
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in a little vacation slash family vacation flash, going to see my friends his
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birthday, the kid's birthday. That is so it's great, man, it's
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been really great. You know. It's funny you mentioned the dreams that you've
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had where you've you know, you've disappointed. You wake up and you're like,
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did I drink? Because I've had I and I'm an advocate for marijuana,
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but I haven't smoked in since twenty eleven, and I would have these
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dreams. I'm like, oh my god, I can't believe I did that.
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You play it in your head like did I really do that? And
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then it's funny that I wonder if that's a common theme that a lot of
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people have dreams that they fall off the wagon, you definitely think so.
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I definitely remember having them, more so in the beginning, and that was
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more even just in general, I would, you know. Then with the
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podcast, of course there's be me about disappointing and stuff. But I do
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think it's common because I remember, even in the first couple of years,
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like it was tough, because I swear I would drive down the street and
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I would smell something and it would make me think of, oh, you
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know, this time I was in the park and I was using, and
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I you know, and even though it wasn't a good memory, it was
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still a memory that would like bring me back and make my stomach turn.
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And and then I would go past the burger King and I used to go
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to this one Burger King and go in the bathroom and use, and it
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was you know, again think looking back, it's bad. But at the
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same time, the first couple of years, whenever I passed that my stomach
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would turn, I'd get butterflies. And yeah, it's definitely was the first
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few years. I mean, it's tough in general, but it's tough the
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first couple of years. Dreams and memories and all that stuff. So yeah,
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well you mentioned, you know, being disappointed. Do you get disappointed
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when you get a bad review or is that just something you try and ignore
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because you know everyone's a critic these days, and you know, some of
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your movies unfortunately don't have the best Rotten Tomato scores, but the fans love
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them, and that's what's important. Is that something you just tune out?
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Did it? Did it hurt you? At first? Hundred No, I
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one hundred percent tune out. And I've always tuned out, you know,
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I honestly am ignorant. I have not honestly seen I just try to ignore
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it because I do think I would obsess and that's why I don't, especially
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even you would think my first movie I directed, I would like try to
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like research people's feedback and like all that, but I didn't want to,
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like I don't want to know, like all I've got to hear, which
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is great, and I'm sure it's all the people that come to see me
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at comms and my podcast and I do. I do stand up comedy too.
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I do Jay mus and is amusing stories and afterwards I'll meet with people
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and they're like, oh my gosh, I watched your movie you directed.
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It was awesome. So the good thing is I've only heard good things about
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the movie I directed. But I'm sure there's tons out there with bad feedback,
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but I ignore that. I know Kevin has trouble ignoring that stuff,
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but I would rather just play ignorant, honestly ignorant. To me, is
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is definitely blessed because in my head, every movie that I've done, even
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if i've I course can't pass seeing reviews of you know, Rotten Tomatoes,
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like you said, bad Rotten Tomato views, and or like when Molrats.
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I remember Zac and Mary make a point. We had Craig Robinson and and
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you know what, Zach, I can can't think of the names Seth Rogan
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my bad, yeah, you know. And I remember Kevin was like,
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dude, these guys the last movie they did, box office numbers were crazy.
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We're gonna this movie is going to be the one that we're going to
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get good box office numbers. Rotten Tomatoes is going to be awesome. And
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I remember like, so, of course I remember that didn't happen, and
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we were like, what the heck? But again, I didn't see anyone
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specifically point out like well that Ja Muws was awesome, I mean a horrible
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luster. You know, I just know the movie didn't do great. Of
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course I couldn't ignore that, but I've ignored trying to research me personally and
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what people think about my character and about my acting and about because I really
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do think I would obsess about it and it would get in my head so
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and then yet I don't pay attention to that. It's just I'm reminded of
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the scene and Jay and Silent Bob strike back when you go on the website
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and you see all the bad reviews and then you just show up at all
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their houses and beat the crap out of them. That I would want to
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do that, I really would, because like it's like I know that I've
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gotten things where people There was someone recently who took this really weird and I
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only saw it because someone sent it to me, but like someone took a
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picture of me and my kid and and like for some reason wrote really nasty
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stuff and like like it was me holding her and they put like a circle
24:30
around my hand and was like look at this pig touching his kid or whatever,
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something like really crazy and really hurt mean, but in my head,
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I was like, man, I want like really like, who is this?
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I want to find this? Why would you write that? Like?
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So I know that and that was like one thing but and it was horrible.
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Don't get me wrong, But I'm just saying I know how I felt
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for that thing. If I looked at stuff constantly, I would really want
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to be like, let's fly around the country and find everyone. Well.
25:00
Speaking of Jensull and Bob strike Back, is there a movie in the the
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Viewisk universe that you're most proud of? Is it one of the earlier works?
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Is it something more recently? Is there one that jumps to mind?
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You're like, this is where I'm at my peak right now, this is
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prime Jay. No, this is See that's another thing I don't do.
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For me watching myself, I always feel like, oh I could have done
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better there, I should have said this like that. I do feel like
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people tell me just from feedback, not from me personally, but people say
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that I did really well in Dogma. They feel like Dogma is the movie
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where they felt like I really shined, and like they say, I stole
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the movie, you know, in the sense of that. So I don't
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know, and I do feel like that one. I had memorized the whole
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script. I was so nervous because Kevin told me like, look, dude,
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all the movies we've done, we're working with Alan Rickman. He's a
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British actor. He doesn't play around. If you're doing a scene with and
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you mess up your dialogue, he's not going to be happy, dude,
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Like he'll be disappointed and it's really going to mess us up. So he
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Kevin got me so nervous. I used to read the script for hours every
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day, from front to back, front to back, and I'm not exagged
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rating. I memorized almost every single person's role, like I knew everyone's dialogue,
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like I could sit there. We would go to rehearsals and Kevin would
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be like, oh, man, Lee's gonna be late because he had to
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do something. He'll be here in an hour. We need someone to read
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for him. I'll I'll be like, I'll do it if you don't have
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a script, And I'm like, I don't need the script, and I
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honestly did, like so I don't know. I just feel like because of
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that and that, so I would say dogma. I would say dogma,
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not only because people told me that, but I do feel like I really
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I really was like focused on that, like I really memorize the script and
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like, yeah, so I want to quickly just talk about, you know,
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being sober. Was it difficult making that first movie while being sober?
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As I would imagine you would maybe I have thought of like, am I
27:02
still funny without being high? Is that something that you experienced? Yeah,
27:07
I mean I definitely, I definitely there was times where I would feel that
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way that But until we got started working, I feel like, you know,
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in the beginning, I thought that I wasn't going to be up to
27:18
when we started filming. When we started filming, like I remember, Clerks
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Too was one of the first ones I can remember that I was sober,
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sober, like I had been sober for a couple of years. I was
27:30
feeling healthy, and I remember being like, oh my god, I'm not
27:33
going to be as I'm not going to be as quick witted, and it's
27:36
not going to be as good. But it was the opposite. As soon
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as I started working, because I wasn't waking up feeling like hungover or sick
27:45
because I didn't have anything to take or what have you. I felt like
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clear as a bell, and like realized that I was a lot more on
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top of stuff. Like I just felt better, you know. I wasn't
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like like movies before that, m even Dogma for example, Like by the
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end of Dogma, I started drinking again and using and stuff, and I
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remember that I'd be like, oh, man, like this scene we've been
28:08
doing the same scene for like, you know, like because sometimes you know,
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you film the scene, you block out the scene and they're like,
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man, we got to set up these lights and do this stuff, and
28:18
they're like, gonna be ten minutes. I'm gonna come on ten minutes.
28:19
Why'd you call me this set? Man, I'm gonna go lay down in
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my trailer because I was hungover and tired and I wanted to go lay down
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where clerks too. I'm like ten minutes, fine, man, I'm gonna
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sit here and do push ups. I'm gonna sit here and like go over
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the scene with someone, you know. So yeah, I would definitely say
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I thought that at first, but then as soon as we started working,
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I felt the opposite. That's awesome to hear. Now, Jay, You've
28:45
also done some voice work over the years. You know, the Clerk's animated
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show is so good, and I think it only had six episodes. I
28:52
feel like if that show came out like six or seven years later, an
28:56
adult Swim was really a thing. If it wasn't on ABC, I feel
29:00
like that show could have lasted, you know, seven eight seasons. And
29:03
then you were just in the Kev's Masters of the Universe show. You were
29:07
stink or I think he did another role. Is that something you'd like to
29:10
do more of? More cartoon voices? And do you have a favorite cartoon?
29:14
Do you have a favorite cartoon growing up? And what was the experience,
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like, you know, doing the voice work? So for clerks,
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I agree with you. The clerks that made I say that to people all
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the time. I say, like the bummers. I feel like Kevin,
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what was before his time? Like the only thing I remember being out at
29:32
that time was maybe the Simpsons, I think, yeah, King of the
29:33
Hill. Yeah, it was like, yeah, there was no Rick,
29:37
Rick and Morty, there was no you know, all the Bob's Burgers,
29:41
all these other cartoons were not out. And it stinks because you're right,
29:47
I feel like if it came out seven eight years later, it really would
29:49
have popped, because I think it's amazing, and most of people that have
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seen it, I just think no one got to see it. The network
29:56
canceled it. But anyway, that being said, I love doing that and
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I loved. Yes, I've done like you said, I've done The Masters
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of the Universe. I've I've got to do a couple animated movies. You
30:10
know. I've done some game characters. I was Mort and Fallouts, which
30:15
was amazing, this character Mort. But yes, I would love to do
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that. It's so much. It's such a different thing because you have to
30:22
like I like to be animated with my hands and move around, but you
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can't really because you're in a booth and the microphone picks up everything. But
30:32
I mean you wake up, you go and you could be in your pajamas
30:33
and you could sit there for you know, playing around and stuff. We
30:37
have a game coming out actually I just did it. My last recording was
30:41
we I did voices, well, sound effects and stuff. We're coming out
30:47
with a game soon. It's called Jay and Sombob Chronic Blunt Punch, and
30:52
it's a mobile game. Looks yeah, I don't know. I think they're
30:56
gonna have it on mobile, but right now I know it's going to be
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on a couple of the contents. Hell yeah, if you look it up.
31:03
Yeah, if you go on my instagram. Uh, if you go
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on my Instagram, I think it's pinned on or my TikTok as well,
31:11
it's in there. The trailer for it, honestly, watch it when we
31:15
get off the phone. Yeah, I think you'll really dig it. It's
31:18
like it's sort of the same style as like the teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or
31:22
the X ME Old Beat them Up. Yeah, like, yeah, so
31:26
you could be Jay or Bob and you can go. You know. It's
31:30
but there's really cool effects in it. You'll see it when you watch the
31:33
trailer. Bunny in it, I could see you guys, uh fighting the
31:37
Easter Bunny thing. Yeah, Monster Easter Bunny. It's it's awesome. But
31:42
the animation for like the graphics I mean for it is really awesome blunt and
31:48
then again like your special power is it's Jay and Bob, but then you
31:53
get this special while you're playing it. You get this thing you could turn
31:57
into blunt Man and Chronic which are like almost like mega Man suits. Like
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it's pretty Just watch the trailer and you'll understand. But yes, it's so
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much fun, I think doing and the voiceovers. But it's tough. I
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realized. I go on, I go on auditions all the time, and
32:15
I'll be sitting in the lobby and like the role might be playing. You
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might be in there for a role for like a twelve year old kid,
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and you know, I'll do my best twelve year old kid, which isn't
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great. And then you'll hear someone You'll see this eight, you know,
32:28
sixty year old gruffy old man, and all of a sudden, I'll hear
32:31
him go in the booth and he'll be able to hear him and he'll like,
32:34
hey, man, it's basically and he'll be like spot on perfect.
32:37
And I'm like, like, there's people out there that that is their job
32:40
just so good at it, you know, And so I always feel like
32:44
it's it's tough because it's like, yes, you know, I get lucky
32:47
sometimes someone wants the Jay voice or my voice, you know whatever. But
32:52
like when it comes to like them just casting roles and voiceover actors, man,
32:59
they are like spot on, you know. So it's tough to compete,
33:02
to be honest, you know's what's funny. Jay I watched the movie
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Freddie Versus Jason a few weeks ago. I don't know if you've seen this,
33:12
there's the character that's clearly a j ripoff. Is that you have you
33:16
seen that? Is that something that you laugh at? You you laugh at
33:20
that? Or what's your reaction when you see something like that? Well,
33:23
well I laugh at I laugh. But at the same time, I'm just
33:27
like, well, why didn't they just call me? Like, you know,
33:29
I mean, I would have totally been in a Freddy Versus Jason movie,
33:32
honestly, I would have Like that would be so cool for me.
33:36
I grew up watching the Freddy's and the Jason's, you know what I mean.
33:38
Like, so if I got to be in like a movie and got
33:43
the like that stuff like appeals to me. Like even if they were like,
33:45
hey, we don't we don't have the money to pay for you or
33:49
whatever, I'm like, I'll do it for scale, Like, let's just
33:51
do it. I get to be like, honestly, I get to be
33:53
in a Friday at thirteen Freddy movie, that'd be amazing. So but yes,
33:58
it is funny, but it's more funny because I just like, why
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didn't they honestly call me and if and maybe they didn't do it on purpose.
34:07
I don't know. At least you guys were in Scream three, so
34:10
you got you got some horrors one hundred. What's what's next for Jason Muse?
34:16
You know, I think you said you you might be teasing some stuff
34:20
in the coming future. Is there anything you can announce or is this something
34:22
uh uh, maybe we can get an exclusive. Well again, there's things
34:28
Kevin wants to announce, so nothing set in stones. There's a couple scripts
34:31
and movies that Kevin would really like to do that we're gonna announce he wants
34:36
to talk about on the show. For me, though, for the most
34:38
part, man my main thing. Usually I try to squeeze in. It's
34:43
harder now with the kids. But I used to stream like three hours a
34:46
day on Twitch. I would play games, I would open up boxes people
34:50
would send me get like Blizzard and and play. People would send stuff and
34:53
I'd open them up on stream. And I love doing that. Like,
34:58
honestly, if I could like direct a movie and do a j and Bob
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movie with Kevin, like one of those each year and stream the rest of
35:07
the time. But also I have my amusing stories I've been doing that more
35:10
than anything is my stand up. Like in June, I'm going to be
35:14
in be doing a bunch of stand up you know, we're doing the podcast
35:19
with you know, like we're coming there to do the podcast, but that
35:22
week you know that we're doing like we're going to Chicago, then we're Jersey,
35:27
New York, and then we're going to London, and then I come
35:29
back and I do a bunch of my amusing stories stand up comedy shows and
35:32
so yeah, so right now for me in the future is a lot of
35:36
stand up comedy shows. I'm trying to get better at that, trying to
35:39
like, you know, be able to do more with that because I do
35:43
enjoy it. But I've been doing clubs like I do, like clubs from
35:45
one hundred and seventy five to like three hundred capacity. My goal is to
35:50
hopefully, you know, start get a special or do something eventually and then
35:55
you know, Kevin and I hopefully are going to do another movie that's in
35:59
our universe. And again I don't know. He has a couple on his
36:02
thing, but I don't know what he is. There's nothing setting stone for
36:06
a plan unless he knows. And I don't know. So, yeah,
36:09
there will be another Jambob by the end of the year, and not Jambob
36:15
in general, but just a movie with Jambob somehow in it. Yeah,
36:19
I've been reading for years, you know, whether it's Maul Rats two another
36:22
you know, Jane and Silent Bob. I even heard possibly a Clerks for
36:25
but everyone that's the fans of you guys. I'm sure will be there first
36:30
in line. I know I will be, and I will be an April
36:34
twenty eighth at the Paramountain, Huntington. I'll be there to see Jay and
36:37
Silent Bob get old, which I'm sure it will be awesome. Jay,
36:42
this has been such a pleasure, dude, I mean, this is a
36:45
dream come true again to talk to you. I thank you so much for
36:46
giving me just you know, forty minutes or whatever you gave me. No,
36:51
I appreciate it and thank you very much. And I will see you
36:53
at the show. Tell ya.