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- 0:04Hello everybody. Welcome to Targeting Winners.
- 0:06This is Part 2 of our ACC preview for 2026.
- 0:11I am Tim, the FSU Homer, joined as always by Peter.
- 0:16What's going on, bud? I'm here, it's Thursday, it's in
- 0:21the middle of May. We're moving toward the season.
- 0:23I'm getting excited because we're starting to roll toward
- 0:26the season. So I'm starting to smell it,
- 0:28feel it. I'm excited.
- 0:29So yeah, things are going going well.
- 0:32So. Exciting to make sure that smell
- 0:34is the season, not anything else that could be coming out of your
- 0:36kitchen or that could be. So let's keep that going.
- 0:40Aaron, you got a busy weekend. What's going on with you up
- 0:42there? Not much man.
- 0:46Two children, 11 graduating college tomorrow, 1 graduating
- 0:50college on Saturday. I'm flying out there, we could
- 0:53go do like some food on Monday or something.
- 0:55Yeah, that's fine, man. Stop by.
- 0:57I'll, I'll, I'll text you when you get in here and then get all
- 1:01settled and visit the parentals and all that good stuff.
- 1:04But yeah, I've, I've heard I work for Molly.
- 1:06I got nothing going on. Well, you talked about this like
- 1:09bar restaurant thing the other weekend, that's how.
- 1:11Oh yes, couple of them I'm in. But yeah, you know, typical New
- 1:16York rainy, you know, still still hoodie weather up here.
- 1:21God, I hate this state so much. Just like Pete definitely
- 1:25excited. A lot of the G6 odds have
- 1:29started to drop in the last few days in regards to conferences
- 1:32and win totals. So yeah, it almost feels like,
- 1:36you know, we're like halfway through the pre season and
- 1:38getting ready to go and we've got more bets today, more
- 1:41breakdowns. I'm excited.
- 1:44And you were telling me you came across some news and from the
- 1:46Big 12, America's dumped. The fire.
- 1:48So month or so ago, I bet on Iowa State under 5 1/2 at -115 I
- 1:54was just kind of, you know, cruising through the websites
- 1:57that I usually look at for some college football info.
- 2:00And I was on CBSSports.com earlier in the week.
- 2:05They're actually pretty good for college football.
- 2:06They they put up a handful of articles every week, even during
- 2:09the offseason. So if you don't have that tabbed
- 2:11as or on your favorite, should probably add it.
- 2:14But from this article, I'll just quote it because that's what I
- 2:19got written down here. Projected starter and former
- 2:22Toledo safety Braden Alls suffered a torn ACL during
- 2:26spring practice and is expected to miss the entire 2026 season.
- 2:30With 24 career starts and more than 1400 snaps, Alls would have
- 2:35been Iowa State's most experienced defender, leaving a
- 2:37notable void in a secondary already trying to come together
- 2:40quickly. So obviously that moved the
- 2:43lines a little bit. You can still get under 5 1/2 -,
- 2:45130 at FanDuel if you need another nudge to to hop on this
- 2:50bed along with me. And he was kind of productive
- 2:52last year. I looked at looked at his stats.
- 2:544th on the team with 52 tackles, half a sack, forced fumble and
- 2:57five interceptions, which led the team by quite a bit.
- 3:00The second most interception remaining on that team was 2, so
- 3:04a pretty good player. One of the top pickups in the
- 3:07portal for Ohio, Iowa State team that's not really heavy into the
- 3:10portal. So yeah, if anybody wants to
- 3:13suffer a season long future with me in the Big 12, you can still
- 3:16get a good number. I would still play that at -130
- 3:18if I, if I hadn't already. And if you drank a little extra
- 3:22sassy today, you can get under 4 1/2 at DraftKings at plus 170.
- 3:27I wouldn't touch that. But that number is, is is a
- 3:30beautiful thing. But yeah, just a little update
- 3:33on that bet if anybody else wants to wants to join in and
- 3:36feel free. Let's suffer together all.
- 3:39Right. Well, we're going to jump in
- 3:41here to Part 2 of our ACC preview.
- 3:45Of course, we have to break all these conferences up pretty soon
- 3:47we'll be doing Big 10 Part 6, but for now we can break them
- 3:51down into two sections. We had some couple little action
- 3:56in the comments section from last week.
- 3:58Darren what what we got it going on over.
- 4:00There Tar Heel Tiger looking forward to to today's show and
- 4:04again Tar Heel, thank you for listening.
- 4:06And if you're new to us, like Tim had mentioned, we did these
- 4:08previews in full and it was just like 2 hours long.
- 4:12And you know, we appreciate that.
- 4:14Everybody that listens to us or watches us here on YouTube, you
- 4:18know, you have lives. Nobody should sit and listen to
- 4:21us to re Babble for two hours. So trying something.
- 4:25New, I don't see them. Yeah, exactly.
- 4:27Just breaking up the larger conferences, or at least the
- 4:29power fours into into two separate shows just to keep
- 4:32these videos, you know, under an hour.
- 4:35So we don't want to bore you guys for two hours.
- 4:37An hour at a time is much more acceptable.
- 4:39So sorry, heel tiger. I'm gonna assume you're a North
- 4:42Carolina fan, and I believe that's where Tim is going to
- 4:46start us off. Yeah, well, let's start off with
- 4:49the Tar Heels. We got that plus 10,000 win the
- 4:51conference over under 4 1/2 wins.
- 4:56Peter, let's start with you since Aaron brought us in.
- 4:58Any thoughts on the Tar Heels? Yeah, I got many on this team.
- 5:02I mean, this team was a dumpster fire for the most part last
- 5:04year. I, I do not like the direction
- 5:06of this team. I mean, so the idea with Bill
- 5:10coming in right, was to just to create like an NFL style
- 5:13approach in college, which he's kind of done, I guess from the
- 5:18from the structure, from how they operate from personnel,
- 5:21from the whole thing, which great, right?
- 5:24But it did not translate to wins in the field.
- 5:26It it did not translate to just being effective.
- 5:30I mean, so I mean through the year the defense got better,
- 5:34which is good, but you know, this team just does it just it
- 5:40never really looked like it was gelling like a team.
- 5:43So Fast forward, right, 2026 you got Bobby Petrino in there.
- 5:49Now that's interesting, right? So you got Bill and Bobby
- 5:52standing next to each other in the sideline, right?
- 5:55To me, that's two very different people, very different
- 5:59approaches. I don't know how that works.
- 6:04I don't know what the hell that's going to turn into.
- 6:06You got like an NFL organizational structure, old
- 6:10school aggressive SET style offense.
- 6:13I don't know what the hell that turns into.
- 6:15I mean, it's going to be maybe fascinating.
- 6:16I don't know. I don't know what to do with
- 6:19this. I mean, I would lean so that
- 6:20over under what, 4 1/2? I would, based on the schedule,
- 6:25I would probably lean over, but honestly, I don't know what to
- 6:28expect from this thing. I'm personally expecting a giant
- 6:31dumpster fire because this is just, it just doesn't feel
- 6:34right. Like it's like taking like the
- 6:37best coaches you can find from different genres, different
- 6:40areas and just like pasting them together and seeing they, what
- 6:45they can do. I, I just, maybe it'll work.
- 6:47I don't know, but I just don't see it.
- 6:49So I am staying as far away from North Carolina as I can possibly
- 6:53stay. So that's my thought.
- 6:56Darren, over to you. Yeah, I agree with almost all of
- 6:58that. But I really want to watch this
- 7:01TCU game in Ireland because if you all remember, one of the
- 7:06worst bets I made was the first bet I made.
- 7:08I was all in on Bill Belichick taking over this team.
- 7:10My first bet, a little bit of plus money was over 7 1/2 wins,
- 7:14completely blanking on the fact that you probably need some
- 7:17roster talent to help you and he didn't have any.
- 7:19So that's on me. So I'm not falling for it again,
- 7:23Pete mentioned the Petrino higher.
- 7:24I actually love that. The the reason I'm not on this
- 7:29overtrain yet again, the schedules, I mean, there,
- 7:33there's, there's six wins in this schedule, but I need to see
- 7:37how this offense looks. I can't tell you how many times
- 7:39I turn on a North Carolina game. And because I had a futures bet
- 7:42on them last year, I turn on a lot of North Carolina games.
- 7:44I don't remember the first time that came on my screen I ever
- 7:47saw North Carolina on offense. I mean, like 3 and out was part
- 7:51of their game plan. This poor defense, which Pete
- 7:54did say got better and they actually did.
- 7:57But I mean, my God, you can only do so much over 12 games when
- 8:01your offense is not helping you. And they got nothing from this
- 8:03offense. So the two things I want to see,
- 8:06Billy Edwards, he's coming over from Wisconsin to be the QB.
- 8:10Had a good year at Maryland two years ago, but was injured,
- 8:13barely played at all for Wisconsin last year.
- 8:15I'd love to see what he can do because when he's healthy, he's
- 8:18productive. But this offensive line is all
- 8:22brand new. I need to see, yeah, can they
- 8:25protect Edwards back there? They do have their running back
- 8:28coming back, Damon June, which is helpful.
- 8:31Their leading wide receiver, Jordan Shipp is back as well.
- 8:34There are pieces to actually make this a decent offense.
- 8:38The problem is when you have that whole offensive line that
- 8:41needs to gel, run block together, pass block together.
- 8:44You cannot have Edwards get clobbered.
- 8:47You know, the second game into the season.
- 8:49So I'm avoiding the over bet for now, but I really do want to see
- 8:54what this offense looks like. So I think Petrino's massive
- 8:57upgrade from what was kitchens I think they got rid of.
- 8:59Right, Kitchen. There's one last year, yeah.
- 9:03And it's a Belichick coach team. Say what you want, as little
- 9:06talent as he had last year, they still had a decent defense.
- 9:08So I also am cautiously optimistic.
- 9:13I would lean to the over. But yeah, that Week 0 game in
- 9:17Dublin for me, that's going to be must see TV because I would,
- 9:20I would love to see if if this offense is improved at all.
- 9:23I don't know, this feels like a giant ploy for Bill to get his
- 9:27kid this job in the future. I don't know, this just doesn't
- 9:30feel like it's. Going still on that the
- 9:31conspiracy theorist. I am.
- 9:33I was right last year. I was correct last year.
- 9:36I called it a dumpster fire from minute 1 and it was a dumpster
- 9:39fire last year. It's going to be a dumpster fire
- 9:41this year. I don't think Bill's actually
- 9:43his heart is in this. I think he's doing it for his
- 9:45kid and just going through the motions.
- 9:47Call, call me out later if I'm wrong, but I truly believe that.
- 9:50Like this is getting his kid a job for later.
- 9:53I truly believe that. Pete setting us up for hate mail
- 9:58from Tar Heels. Bring it on and maybe he'll be a
- 10:02great coach in the. Field we're we're we're all
- 10:04about a college football betting community.
- 10:06Everybody is entitled to their opinion.
- 10:08We don't care if you agree with us or not.
- 10:11Share your opinions with us. We want to hear them.
- 10:14And if we're wrong, then by all means tell us we're wrong.
- 10:17We can't break, you know, we can't spend 30 minutes breaking
- 10:19down every position group on every team.
- 10:20So if there's somebody we're missing that you think is key
- 10:23that that the betters need to know about, please drop it in
- 10:26the comments. We will.
- 10:27We'll share it with everybody. Bill is 12 minutes away from
- 10:30sailing away on his boat with his 12 year old girlfriend or.
- 10:33Whatever the hell it is. And that's.
- 10:34Where he is, I mean. Come on, she can stay off
- 10:36Petrino's motorcycle. That's right, right there.
- 10:39So interesting, Bobby. Steele's Bill's girlfriend.
- 10:42That'd be the greatest headline. What's the line on?
- 10:45All. Right, we're going to move on
- 10:49the PIT +1750 to win the conference over under 7 1/2
- 10:54wins. This is a very interesting team.
- 10:57Darren, let's start with you. You would took us with no UNC.
- 11:00Yeah, I I love what this team is bringing back offensively.
- 11:04I think the quarterback Heinzel is legit.
- 11:06I think the running back Turner is also legit.
- 11:09The only questions I have they lose a couple of their top
- 11:11receivers, so I'm curious to see who steps up to replace those
- 11:15guys. Remember, this is a team.
- 11:15They started out smoking hot last year and then completely
- 11:19shit the bed come November. So I'm kind of curious to see
- 11:23Pat Norduzzi, who I cannot stand.
- 11:26It's like, bro, can you please shut up about Notre Dame and
- 11:28focus on your own damn school? Maybe that's why after Notre
- 11:31Dame whooped your ass last year, you continued to suck, but I
- 11:35digress. This schedule is certainly
- 11:38favorable. I do lean the over here
- 11:42defensively, you know, they lost a couple of their top
- 11:45linebackers. So we'll have to see how they
- 11:46respond there. There's really no difficult home
- 11:49games here that I look at. I I could certainly see them
- 11:53sweeping this this home schedule here.
- 11:55Nobody tough there, but there are a couple of interesting Rd.
- 11:58games here. Miami and Louisville be in the
- 12:00top two. Also, Virginia Tech, you don't
- 12:03know what they're going to look like with so many new pieces,
- 12:06but those are the only three games I see that could possibly
- 12:09be an issue. I mean the road road trip to
- 12:12Cali could be iffy. Any time A-Team goes all the way
- 12:16across the country I do worry. But even if that's a fourth
- 12:19loss, you know this is still an 8 win team.
- 12:22So I do like what they're bringing back offensively and if
- 12:26Narduzzi can get get those key linebackers replaced, this is
- 12:29the minimum. This is an 8 win team.
- 12:30I lean the over here. Peter yeah, I like what you
- 12:35said. I mean, let's forget.
- 12:36Let's not forget like Pat Narduzzi is a former Sparty.
- 12:39They never shut up, right? So that's that's kind of what
- 12:41they do. But I do like what he's building
- 12:43here. I mean, I think he's done a
- 12:44really nice job in a place that like it.
- 12:49It's hard to make them. It's hard to make Pitt really
- 12:52good. But you can you can draw talent
- 12:54there and you can make Pitt a pretty good team.
- 12:56And he's done that right. This team can be dangerous.
- 12:59This team can can beat people, you know, like especially
- 13:04unexpectedly at times. But if you look at the schedule
- 13:07like so this 7 1/2 number is really interesting to me. 4 and
- 13:11O out of the gate. So you have 8 more four and
- 13:14four. I can easily see eight wins
- 13:17here. So to me, I mean, just based on
- 13:19their schedule, which I think is just it fits really nicely with
- 13:23that 7 1/2. And I think for for them and one
- 13:26thing that really works nicely for Pitt is they are a tough
- 13:29home team, right? Going in there and winning.
- 13:32They are they are a tough team to play at home.
- 13:34And I think it will play right in the schedule as we go forward
- 13:36through the season. So I expect that I expect
- 13:39they'll get a four now. I expect to go four and four the
- 13:41rest of the year and that's eight wins.
- 13:43So I am making a bet here. I think I think that over is
- 13:46very, very juicy. So I'm going 2 units and a over
- 13:50because I just I think the schedule just feeds right into
- 13:53it and I'm not a big fan at of, you know, betting on former
- 13:58Sparty's and all this, but I think the schedule feeds in
- 14:01really nicely. So unless they trip and fall in
- 14:03their face, I think the eight wins is very nicely kind of in
- 14:07play for them. So that's my.
- 14:08Thoughts. Yeah, I kind of agree with that.
- 14:11I mean, I was actually leaning, you know, towards the over
- 14:14myself, but once I saw you had it, I was like, well, I'll let
- 14:17Pete grab it. So any final thoughts with that,
- 14:19Darren? No, I agree with everything you
- 14:23said. I mean the -148 is the only
- 14:25thing that scared me away. But yeah, he countered that with
- 14:29the 2 units to kind of bounce out some of that juice.
- 14:32But yeah, I agree with this bet 100%.
- 14:36I was I was listening to another podcast a couple weeks ago when
- 14:39they were talking about, you know, they always talk about
- 14:41like those Mount Rushmore's of different colleges, like the
- 14:44best, like, like Notre Dame would have like this all time,
- 14:48you know, great one. Michigan schools like that.
- 14:50Pitt has a sneaky elite Mark. What I mean, Aaron Donald, Larry
- 14:55Fitzgerald, Tony Dorsett, They've had some really good
- 14:58players come through that program.
- 15:00Dan Marino. Dan Marino.
- 15:01Yeah, Jesus, a lot of big history there in Pitt football.
- 15:05So it's. Don't snooze on Pitt like they
- 15:07get some really good players that go through that, that
- 15:09program they have for a long time.
- 15:12So we're going to move on to SMU, +700 to win the ACC and
- 15:18then over under of 8 1/2 wins. Peter, get us going with the
- 15:23Mustangs. Yeah.
- 15:25I mean, I think clearly a threat to to win this conference for
- 15:28sure. I mean, they're basically priced
- 15:31at 2nd tier, but I think they they, they clearly could win
- 15:35this conference schedule I think we have on here is, is to me,
- 15:41that's the biggest challenge for them.
- 15:43I like the team. I I think they are definitely a
- 15:46contender. I think that the issue with them
- 15:50for me. So it's the opposite kind of
- 15:54discussion with Pitt, right? Pitt, I really like their
- 15:56schedule. SMUI don't love their schedule.
- 16:00I think that is a bit of a problem for them.
- 16:02If you look at this thing across the board, especially if you're
- 16:04looking over under, right? So over under is 8 1/2, right?
- 16:08I mean, you're at Louisville, you're at Notre Dame, even at
- 16:12Stanford later than you're not at Stanford's any good.
- 16:14But just going out to the West Coast late in the year, it's not
- 16:18not hard to stub your toe. I mean, I think there's adverse
- 16:22Virginia. Virginia is a problem maybe.
- 16:24I think there's enough problems on the schedule where I don't
- 16:29like that 8 1/2. I don't like the 8 1/2 number at
- 16:31all. I also don't like them to win
- 16:33this conference. So I didn't want to touch that.
- 16:35So I was kind of playing with the 8 1/2 was like the schedule
- 16:39really doesn't play into that so much.
- 16:41I mean, I could see like 6 clear wins, maybe 7 getting above
- 16:45that. Now you're starting to get a
- 16:46little questionable. So I just, I, I think the
- 16:49schedule is a problem for them, especially later in the
- 16:52schedule. Even Wake Forest at home, not
- 16:54that Wake is fantastic or anything, but still that's going
- 16:58to be a tough game. So there's some tough games
- 17:00later in the schedule that I think will create a problem to
- 17:03get above that 8 1/2. So if anything, I would maybe
- 17:08lean on the under on this thing, but I just I don't know where to
- 17:11go. So I just I kind of stayed off.
- 17:12So the ceiling is real, I think. But the schedule it it it's a
- 17:17prove it kind of thing, right? If they're going to be like
- 17:19really good, they're going to have to prove it with the
- 17:20schedule and I don't think they're going to do that.
- 17:22So that's my thoughts. I would lean for betting the
- 17:26over on a lot of games with this team.
- 17:33Tim just froze on. Him.
- 17:34Tim froze. Tim froze.
- 17:37He looks like he. He was about ready to talk about
- 17:39how awesome Florida State is and how they're going to upset SMU.
- 17:42And then the Internet gods are like, now stop.
- 17:44Nah, he's like over. What are you talking about?
- 17:46Yeah, he's, I started talking about how, you know, they're
- 17:50basically the opposite of North Carolina.
- 17:51North Carolina has a decent defense.
- 17:52This team does not. I don't think, I think be a lot
- 17:55of 4538 games on his schedule this year.
- 17:59So I'd be looking for betting a lot of overs this year.
- 18:01Darren, any final thoughts with SMU?
- 18:04A little I, I kind of agree with a little of both you guys said,
- 18:07but also not with what you guys said, like this schedule, like
- 18:11Pete's, right. It could be tricky because
- 18:13there's a lot of teams on here who are expected to kind of take
- 18:16a step forward. If they do that, that in half
- 18:20could be a problem because if you look at SM us roster outside
- 18:23of Kevin Jennings, they're really not bringing a lot back.
- 18:27They didn't get that Cal transfer at the running back
- 18:29position, Raphael, but they're losing their top 2 Rogers from
- 18:33last year. Their top two wide receivers are
- 18:34gone. Nobody on the defensive line
- 18:36returns. There are two leading tacklers
- 18:39who are both safeties. They're also gone.
- 18:41So you know, is Lashley going to have another successful haul in
- 18:46the portal? If he does, yeah, this team will
- 18:49be nine wins and be competing for the ACC title.
- 18:51But that's a lot to replace. And if he if he doesn't hit on
- 18:56one or two position groups, some of these toss UPS, I could go
- 19:00against SMU here, but yeah, yeah, kind of have to trust him.
- 19:04I mean, when they came in couple years ago, I mean he went
- 19:06undefeated in the conference his first year.
- 19:08I mean, when they were moving up from from a group of five, they
- 19:11they prep for this. So I mean, they're no joke.
- 19:14But if a couple of these other teams improve and have actually
- 19:17not lost as much as what SMU has, yeah.
- 19:20Like Pete said, I didn't know what to do with this team.
- 19:23I mean, I have Louisville. So I'm hoping that Week 3 match
- 19:26up, SMU goes in there and gets the beat down that that they
- 19:29certainly could. And I mean, yeah, Pete and I
- 19:32think we know what Florida State's going to look like.
- 19:34Tim will tell you the opposite. But it's a road game.
- 19:37You never know what's going to happen there.
- 19:39Norvell could be coaching for his job.
- 19:41You don't know what these teams are going to look like first
- 19:43game right out of the gate. Yeah, I just, my gut tells me,
- 19:48yeah, this is this is a 9 or 10 win team.
- 19:50But I mean, you're losing your entire defensive line or you're
- 19:53going to be able to stop the run or you're going to be able to
- 19:55get pressure on the other team's quarterback.
- 19:57It's just too many, too many things here.
- 19:59That oh, like all the other Texas teams, though, they can
- 20:01spend money. They can.
- 20:03They can, but it's like 8 knots. They're the original Nil, you
- 20:06know, the Pony Express. So they'll they'll get the
- 20:10talent in there one way or another.
- 20:12So they got plenty of money to throw around.
- 20:13So we'll see what happens there. We're going to go over to
- 20:15Stanford. Big favorite here, plus 25,000
- 20:22over under his 3 1/2 wins. I do believe we have a bet on
- 20:25this one. Peter, let's start with you with
- 20:26Stanford. I mean, the tree, the tree has
- 20:30had a rough time here. So hey, listen, come on.
- 20:34As as a Colts guy, as an Andrew Luck guy, I'm very happy that
- 20:39he's there. I think longer term, maybe he
- 20:43can turn this program into something.
- 20:47At the moment, this program is dead in the water.
- 20:50I, I don't know what I mean. Come on the over under 3 1/2.
- 20:54I don't even know if I can find four wins on the schedule.
- 20:58I I, I just what the only thing that plays in their favor
- 21:02sometimes here is just the travel, right?
- 21:04So, you know, based on their structure, like somebody's
- 21:07traveling back and forth across the country, maybe that'll serve
- 21:10their serve, serve them well where they can get a win when
- 21:13really they're just not the better team.
- 21:14They get a win because of travel, but they're just just
- 21:17not a good team. I, I just, they're in rebuilding
- 21:20mode. Like like true deep rebuilding
- 21:23mode, it's going to take some time.
- 21:25So I generally don't touch any team that's in deep rebuilding
- 21:29mode because you just, you don't know what the hell they're going
- 21:32to do. I mean, they could suddenly be
- 21:34decent, but I don't know what's going to happen, right?
- 21:37I don't see any indicators that's going to happen.
- 21:40So from that perspective, to me, they're still a rebuilding team.
- 21:43So from that perspective, I'm out.
- 21:47Darren, over to you. I don't like this team at all.
- 21:52I thought 2025 when Andrew Luck came in with Frank Wright was
- 21:55supposed to be like, OK, let's reset the program, let's see
- 21:57what we have and let's build from there.
- 21:59I don't really know if they built anything at last year.
- 22:03I just didn't see it. I mean, your running back
- 22:05returns Ford, which is nice. He was he was pretty good.
- 22:08Four O lineman return also nice. But I mean, what else do you
- 22:12got? Is that Michigan transfer Davis
- 22:15Warren? Is he going to be the QB?
- 22:16Who knows? I mean, Pete, is he even does he
- 22:20even going to add a win to that team if he's if he ends up being
- 22:23the guy? I.
- 22:24Mean that roster maybe, I don't know.
- 22:26I mean it's that roster is terrible.
- 22:27I mean, and a lot of the defensive production comes back,
- 22:30but this defence was terrible last year, bottom of the
- 22:32conference in a lot of categories.
- 22:34I mean, and just look at this schedule.
- 22:35We, we, Tim and I always harp about travel from time zone to
- 22:38time zone. I mean, for, I mean, let's just
- 22:40start with the home games. You have Miami, SMU and NC State
- 22:43coming. That's probably 3 losses right
- 22:45there. You got a road game in Notre
- 22:48Dame, a road game at Louisville, and then you have three trips
- 22:51out east of Virginia Tech, Duke and the weather probably not
- 22:53very good and Wake Forest. So Duke, Wake, VAH, Tech,
- 22:58Louisville, Notre Dame, Miami, SMU and NC State.
- 23:02That's probably 8 losses right there.
- 23:04They always struggle with Hawaii.
- 23:06You know, Pete will tell you how awesome Hawaii is, but I mean,
- 23:08even if Hawaii's on a down here, outside of Hawaii and Elon,
- 23:13where are they getting two more wins off of this?
- 23:16I just just where I, I don't even, I, I don't know, man.
- 23:22They're beating Musk. Outside of that, I don't know.
- 23:25Well, maybe Cal. I mean, it's a rivalry game, no?
- 23:27They're not going to beat Cal Cal has a quarterback head coach
- 23:31that knows defense even. I'm trying to play devil's
- 23:34advocate here. I'm scared.
- 23:36No, I appreciate that because you know, we do that all the
- 23:38time, play the other side, but I just.
- 23:40But even they do, that's remember 3.
- 23:42That's getting them nowhere. They're still 3.
- 23:43Yeah. So we've got to find two more
- 23:45so. I mean, Hawaii comes to them.
- 23:47That's not that bad of a trip. I mean.
- 23:50Hawaii was a better team by far. I mean, that's not yeah.
- 23:54I just, God, I just, I mean, I've, I saw maybe three if
- 23:59they're lucky, plus I got a little bit of a A+ number on the
- 24:03under. So yeah, Tim show that bad boy.
- 24:05I, I, I did 1 unit under 3 1/2 + 100 was actually available at
- 24:10MGMI. Just, I just don't see three
- 24:13wins, much less 4, you know, and I hope better for them.
- 24:18I mean, God forbid they hold up their academic standards, you
- 24:22know, I mean, how dare they. But I just that's.
- 24:27Part of the problem with them, start this problem with them,
- 24:30right. They keep holding the academic
- 24:31standards up and they're having problems getting people in there
- 24:34and they're going to have this issue, which, fine, but yeah, I
- 24:39agree this is great that I mean, I would do nothing but this,
- 24:42this is the best bet with them because.
- 24:43They're the only plausible outcome.
- 24:45We can see this one. And, and if Hawaii goes out
- 24:48there and wins Week 1, I I'm not even going to worry about this
- 24:51one for the rest of the year, to be honest with you.
- 24:53Yeah, that's that could be the swing game.
- 24:56If they even if Steve wins that, I don't even know if they're
- 24:59still getting to four. I just no, I don't know.
- 25:04A lot had a lot of injuries, suspensions or whatever has to
- 25:07happen I think for that for that to go down.
- 25:11All right, let's move on to Syracuse plus 15,000 to win the
- 25:15conference over under a four and a half wins.
- 25:18How's it up there? Pete, Let's start with you with
- 25:20frigid Syracuse. Our boy Jeff out there, How's he
- 25:22going to like this year? I don't think it's going to like
- 25:25this year at all, to be honest with you.
- 25:27I mean, that 4 1/2 is a pretty good indicator, plus 15,000.
- 25:30It's not a better indicator either.
- 25:31I mean, yeah, I think I don't think this team is very good.
- 25:36I have concerns on both sides of the ball, to be honest with you,
- 25:40with with this team. I mean, they were 3:00 and 9:00
- 25:43last year after a really good debut season.
- 25:46Now that obviously there were some factors that played into
- 25:49that debut season, including poaching a quarterback that
- 25:52served them well and that debuting season for the for the
- 25:55coach. So after that, it's kind of been
- 25:57a problem. And, you know, I just, I, I
- 26:01think I don't know what the hell has happened to this program
- 26:05honestly, over time, you know, it's one of these programs that
- 26:07seems to have gotten lost like when we were growing up.
- 26:09So we're all kind of older here and we all grew up in New York.
- 26:12Obviously, for those of you that are listening that don't know
- 26:15that we grew up in like kind of the Albany area, right?
- 26:17So like, Syracuse was a kind of a big deal.
- 26:20The Dome was a big deal. Syracuse is a good team.
- 26:22That was a big deal. I mean, they were a significant
- 26:26player in in college football. But I mean, this program has
- 26:30really slid, yeah, slid down. I mean, they just they have a
- 26:35problem drawing talent. They that you know, it's just
- 26:39it's been it's been a consistent issue for them for a while here.
- 26:43Occasionally there's a pop out season where they get a player
- 26:46or something fine. But like continuity here is an
- 26:52issue. And I think we're going to see
- 26:54that this year. You know that 4, you know, 4.5
- 26:58over under looking at the schedule.
- 27:03I mean, I'm, I mean, for me, I'm leaning under on the schedule
- 27:08when I look at it, 'cause I don't see five wins here.
- 27:12I'm not betting it. But if I had, if you put a gun
- 27:15in my head and make me do something, I would bet the under
- 27:17just 'cause I don't think this team is very good.
- 27:20And when I when I look at the schedule, I think that's a
- 27:22problem. So yeah, I am not high at all on
- 27:27this team. And yeah, it's just not been
- 27:30good. So yeah, those are my thoughts.
- 27:32Darren. Yeah, again, as much as
- 27:37disagreeing would would bring more fun to the show, I can't
- 27:40disagree with this. I mean, if if Angeli is healthy,
- 27:43which some reports are, he is OK, their offense may do
- 27:49something. But again, he's losing all his
- 27:51running backs and his wide receivers.
- 27:52He's got to learn to to connect with a whole bunch of new skill
- 27:55players here. His defense not any better and
- 27:58talked about how bad Stanford was.
- 27:59Well, Syracuse was about the only team that was just as bad.
- 28:03The one good thing Fran Brown did, he learned that a lacrosse
- 28:06player as your backup quarterback, not ideal.
- 28:09So he went out and got himself Omari Odom and Malachi Nelson
- 28:13just in case. Angela's not healthy, so good
- 28:15move there. So if anything happens to him,
- 28:18at least they've got people that have played football at the
- 28:21quarterback position before to back him up.
- 28:23So that's good. But this schedule, holy crap.
- 28:27Louisville, SMU, Clemson, Notre Dame, You go to Pitt, Virginia,
- 28:31NC State, Where the hell are they getting five wins out of
- 28:34this? I.
- 28:36No idea. I'm trying to find five.
- 28:38I can find a few. I don't think I.
- 28:40Can can you find 3? Bucks in there.
- 28:43Well, New Hampshire, I mean. OK, one.
- 28:46California's. Akon in there maybe can meet.
- 28:49Is that Yukon in there? You know Yukon.
- 28:51Yukon's in there, maybe 3. OK.
- 28:53I mean, they do have a lot of their tougher games.
- 28:55You know, Clemson, SMU, Notre Dame, they're all coming to the
- 28:57Carrier Dome. So it's like it's not maybe at
- 29:00North Carolina they can get a win.
- 29:03I probably do not. Notre Dame was ahead of them 21
- 29:05to nothing last year without even running an offensive.
- 29:08Play. That is true, I forgot.
- 29:09About that. But that was on the road.
- 29:11That doesn't happen that often, but I mean like.
- 29:15I mean I want them. I want them to be good because
- 29:18obviously one of our best friends is a fan.
- 29:20I still. Live, I do too A.
- 29:21Few hours from the area but Ram Brown was supposed to be a
- 29:25badass recruiter. Man, I.
- 29:29Guess we'll. Find out.
- 29:30I guess we're going to find out. But if Angele's healthy.
- 29:33Maybe they can pull off an upset at home.
- 29:36You know, somewhere, one of those, one of those, maybe SMU,
- 29:39they can. Yeah.
- 29:40I mean, didn't they stick it to Miami a couple years ago at the
- 29:44Dome? So, I mean, they're certainly
- 29:45capable, but they had Kyle. No place like Dome.
- 29:48So that's that. Was two years ago.
- 29:50Yeah, yeah. I mean I was there any not that
- 29:52impressive a structure anymore? Yeah, if you have the right
- 29:55quarterback maybe, but that's just not, I mean they.
- 29:57Do. But is he healthy?
- 29:59Is. No, they don't have the
- 30:00quarterback that two years ago. It's not the same thing.
- 30:02I mean, come on. Are you dissing a former Notre
- 30:06Dame quarterback? Am I hearing this correctly?
- 30:08I am. That's fair.
- 30:09Notre Dame slander. That's.
- 30:11It I'm doubling up on Stanford, fuck Davis Warren.
- 30:13Those Michigan XQB suck. Come on, Notre Dame, in the last
- 30:18couple decades, it's not exactly known for the great
- 30:21quarterbacks. And the day they were, they're
- 30:23not known for their great quarterbacks.
- 30:24No, they're not, but. When they're not getting
- 30:26quarterbacks in the league, there's like none because they
- 30:29don't have any because they're just, that's not what they're
- 30:30known for. All they need to do is turn
- 30:32around and hand a ball off. Right, they have good running.
- 30:35Backs here, take the ball, run. There you go.
- 30:37How does they turn the right way?
- 30:3995% of the time they're going to be OK.
- 30:42So that's not that. That doesn't help, Yeah.
- 30:45All right, we're going to move on to Virginia at plus 1800 for
- 30:47the conference winner and the win total of 7 1/2 wins.
- 30:52The Cavaliers, Darren, what are you thinking about them?
- 30:55You know credits of Virginia, man, they went all in last year
- 30:59and it actually worked for them. They did make it to the ACC
- 31:02title game, so good on them. I, I think they've got that
- 31:06mindset now like SMU, they cannot go back.
- 31:11I just, I, I, I'm torn here. I mean, that 7 1/2 is juice to
- 31:17the over. I can certainly see that that
- 31:19schedule is not terrible. They do get 3 starters on the O
- 31:22line back the defense, ton of depth coming back.
- 31:25And that was actually a really good unit last year.
- 31:28Again, you're a quarterback play.
- 31:29You lost Chandler Morris, you got the Missouri kid Tribula
- 31:31coming in, you got the Pittsburgh guy who got replaced
- 31:34by Heinchel there. I I have not seen who's winning
- 31:38that quarterback battle. So that'll certainly be
- 31:40interesting to see who comes out as the QB one there.
- 31:43I like this team. I mean, the juice -142 at
- 31:46FanDuel as of the other day, I don't hate that.
- 31:50I didn't bet this. I would strongly lean that.
- 31:53I do want to watch that, that Week 0 game, that NC State game
- 31:56in Brazil. We talked about NC State last
- 32:00week. You know, outside the great
- 32:01quarterback that they have, they don't really have much else
- 32:04either. So I'm kind of curious.
- 32:05I think that's like a three-point spread.
- 32:08That's like 2 1/2 or 3 point spread.
- 32:09So really don't know which way to go on that game.
- 32:12But that again, that's going to be a fun game to watch.
- 32:14But I think Virginia's all in this year.
- 32:16Again, if I had to fire anything on here, I would, I would play
- 32:20that juice. I would go over 7 1/2.
- 32:22I I don't hate this schedule or this team at all.
- 32:25Peter. Yeah, I agree.
- 32:28I mean, I think this team took it up a notch, right?
- 32:31I think this program has been elevated to an A level up,
- 32:35right? They're they're a good team,
- 32:37right? They're it'd be hard to argue
- 32:39they're not a good team. Now the issue is because this is
- 32:42a betting show, that's what we do, right, is I think the market
- 32:45has caught up. So I think they're being priced
- 32:48like a good team now. And I think for me the issue is
- 32:51being priced as a good team. They're a little bit overpriced
- 32:54at the moment, right? The seven and a half with this
- 32:57schedule. I'm looking through it like, OK,
- 32:59maybe, but like you're, you're like you're you're, you're on
- 33:05either side of this. Like I couldn't discern whether
- 33:09it's eight or the other. Like it's just, it's just too
- 33:13close for me. So the issue with them, I think
- 33:15it's a they are a good team and I think hats off to the coaching
- 33:19staff and what they've done. I really think like they've
- 33:23actually changed to the trajectory of this team going
- 33:26forward. So hats off great, right?
- 33:29But from the betting perspective right now, I think the market is
- 33:31caught up and I think it's a bit of a challenge betting right
- 33:34now. I think it's got to evolve
- 33:36another year. I mean, maybe in the middle of
- 33:37the season we can see what the over unders look like and all
- 33:39that. Right now from a, you know, from
- 33:42a kind of futures perspective, it's not bettable to me because
- 33:46I think there's the market has caught up with they're leveling
- 33:49up and we have to see what happens.
- 33:51So hats off of Virginia. I think they did a great job.
- 33:54I just can't bet them right now because I just got to see what
- 33:56happens. That's my thoughts.
- 34:00Yeah, I agree with that. I was actually going to know it
- 34:01for myself. It's.
- 34:03Funny that you mentioned that because the next team I feel the
- 34:05exact same way you. Are right, you are right.
- 34:10Well, Speaking of the next team, Virginia Tech plus 2250, the
- 34:16over under win total is 6 and a. Half.
- 34:23Here we go yes this is one of the pretty cool pre game things
- 34:29they got there. Well, you had the sound effects
- 34:32general. Let's start with you.
- 34:33I actually got to play on this one, so take us in there.
- 34:37Yeah, I mean, this that sound like a broken record, but
- 34:39everything Pete said about Virginia I think applies here.
- 34:42We talked about coaches back in the offseason with Mark from
- 34:47coacheshotseat.com. I think that unanimously this
- 34:50was like our favorite hire of the offseason.
- 34:53So credit to Virginia Tech for going out and getting James
- 34:56Franklin. Problem is, everybody loves the
- 35:00hire of James Franklin. Everybody loves the guys he
- 35:03brought from Penn State. Everybody loves the fact that
- 35:05they're top five in the country in returning production and
- 35:09there's no value here anymore. So I do like this team, but I I
- 35:14can't bet him now. I mean, the 6 1/2 is, is heavily
- 35:17juiced. I see -152 here at FanDuel, he
- 35:21brought Drunkmeyer over to be his QB.
- 35:23And then the coach that got fired is back as the defensive
- 35:27coordinator. He does have some work to do,
- 35:29but I mean, a ton of returning production on both sides of the
- 35:32ball here. Yeah.
- 35:34And even if there there wasn't the, you know, all the all the
- 35:38juice here, this schedule's got a lot of toss up games and I
- 35:42just couldn't figure out which way to go.
- 35:44I mean, you look at the roads. Thank you, Tim.
- 35:46The road schedule again, the trip to Cal, just all the way
- 35:48across the country, Clemson, SMU and Miami are Rd. games.
- 35:52Those are all going to be tough. They host Pitt, they host
- 35:56Virginia. Don't sleep on that Old Dominion
- 35:59game. If you remember last year, Old
- 36:01Dominion put up a 45 burger on Virginia Tech and took them down
- 36:05pretty hardcore. And they actually look kind of
- 36:07good this year. I like what Franklin's done.
- 36:10I mean, he's got no problem whooping everybody's ass that
- 36:13he's supposed to whoop. But there's just no like, if I
- 36:18could get an alternate total of 7 1/2, that would probably be
- 36:21plus money. But there's just a lot of tough
- 36:23games on the schedule for me to even take a stab at that.
- 36:26So love the team, but again, when you're when you're
- 36:30replacing an entire roster, it's like it's tough to, to put your
- 36:34money on which way it's gonna go.
- 36:36So, yeah, I, I, I don't have a, a lean or a bet here, you know,
- 36:42just enjoy the, you know, all the home game music, I guess
- 36:45before they get started. Peter, I mean, a little bit of
- 36:51the same I said earlier, right? This is a massive rebuild, a
- 36:54total change in trajectory for a team.
- 36:58Yeah. I mean, this is a incredible
- 37:00coaching hire for this team. Like we're the this team, this
- 37:05this program from where it was to where it's going is a entire
- 37:10change. But I could have not parachuted
- 37:14in a better hire for this program.
- 37:17Fantastic. And I I spent enough time
- 37:19beating up James Franklin at Penn State for, you know, his
- 37:23gaffes and all that, But James Franklin at Virginia Tech, Good
- 37:26God, that's an incredible hire for them.
- 37:29This dude can this dude can recruit like top five in the
- 37:34country. I mean, he's incredible.
- 37:35So yeah, the future of this team is, is awesome just at the
- 37:39moment, right? There's so many unknowns.
- 37:41It's year one. Like there's so many pieces
- 37:44moving around the the market's already pricing up because it's
- 37:48James Franklin, which I get it. It's just really hard to bet
- 37:51this right now because it's it's just there's so many moving
- 37:54things going on at the same time that it's just very difficult to
- 37:59to bet this thing right now. So I wouldn't touch it because
- 38:03of that, but I absolutely love where this team is going.
- 38:07Like a year from now when we're talking about this, it's going
- 38:10to be intriguing because I can't wait to see his draft classes.
- 38:14I can't see where this goes because I think it's going to be
- 38:17pretty. We're going to see Virginia Tech
- 38:19rise up the ranks in this conference and be a perennial
- 38:24contender in this conference, and that's going to be pretty
- 38:26exciting. So right now it's just too
- 38:28early, so I'm out. Yeah, next year they're going to
- 38:31be 12:50 to win the conference with a win total of 8.
- 38:34And a half? Absolutely.
- 38:35And they should be, and they. Should be exactly.
- 38:39Well, the biggest question for me was the consistency.
- 38:41You know, they did bring a lot of new personnel from from Penn
- 38:45State. And like I said it, the price is
- 38:48not great, but I did bet on them.
- 38:51I did bet the over. So I just put a little bit more
- 38:54on it get get a little bit a little bit of a profit more.
- 38:57Anyway, with the -155 for them to not hit this, they'd have to
- 39:02lose 5 games. I don't see five top five teams
- 39:06on their schedule. I think only one.
- 39:08So James, Frank, Lucy beats everybody else.
- 39:10So the only top five team would probably be Miami and that's on
- 39:14the road anyway. So we can talk to one of I think
- 39:16they're going to be 4, one O right off the gate.
- 39:19Then they got that game against, I believe they're playing pit
- 39:23after that. Yeah.
- 39:24And then they got Cal and they got I think they got Stanford.
- 39:28I think that Syracuse on the schedule too.
- 39:30So I think it seems to be a layup for me.
- 39:34Hate, you know, I hate where this team is going because, you
- 39:36know, in the ACC as AFSU fan. But yeah, I did 3 units on this
- 39:41one seems to be a layup. Juice a little bit high, but
- 39:44I'll take it. And I'm going to roll with the
- 39:46Hokies. Be honest.
- 39:49You're betting on James Franklin, right?
- 39:51I mean, this is a James Franklin bet right here.
- 39:53Yeah. He's not gonna lose games with
- 39:55his team that he shouldn't lose, period.
- 39:58Yeah, I'm not concerned at all with the Old Dominion game.
- 40:01I know what they did. That's a fair bet.
- 40:03That's a totally fair bet 'cause he he doesn't lose games he
- 40:06shouldn't lose usually that that's fair.
- 40:09So that's like telling Alabama to watch out for Florida State
- 40:12this year because you know, what happened last year, last year
- 40:15doesn't matter anymore. So, so we're going to, we're
- 40:19getting on, James. Makes a lot of sense.
- 40:20So I get it, yeah. I mean, as much as we love to
- 40:22bash the man. But yeah, right.
- 40:24No, I bash him because he's in the big huge games.
- 40:27He makes a gaffe once, right? One play gaffe.
- 40:31But still, I don't bash the guy for his recruiting.
- 40:34Or, but even then at the end of two years ago, like that playoff
- 40:38game, I don't think any of that was on him.
- 40:40I mean, I think Drew Aller, Drew Aller just underperformed.
- 40:43I don't think James Franklin had his James Franklin type moment.
- 40:48Like Crystal Ball last year, exactly.
- 40:50One of those guys had a problem. They both took their teams deep
- 40:53into the playoffs and did not have a gaffe, and they were
- 40:57solid, right? So I agree, yeah.
- 40:59Yeah, I totally get where it's coming from.
- 41:01Yeah. All right.
- 41:02So we got Wake Forest Plus 7500 with over under a 5 1/2 Peter.
- 41:08We're winding down. Take us through it.
- 41:10Yeah, they're winding down too. They were a really good team and
- 41:13they are descending. The question is how far do they
- 41:17descend, right? That's you're trying to pick
- 41:20the, the, I guess the magnitude of the trajectory of their
- 41:24descent, right? Which I don't like to do because
- 41:28it's hard to do that. So, yeah, they were, they were
- 41:32what, nine and four? They were really good team.
- 41:34They're not going to do that again this time because they've
- 41:38lost a lot of players. It's going to be a bit of a
- 41:40challenge. The win total's 5 1/2, I
- 41:43believe. Yeah, right in the screen in
- 41:44front of me here. It's playable, You know, maybe
- 41:50over. I thought about playing.
- 41:52I thought about playing over here.
- 41:54But I I'm trying to keep my bats to a minimum with these futures.
- 41:57And so it was between this and Pitt.
- 42:00And so I thought Pitt was a far better play than the two.
- 42:03But I consider the over here because I do think if you look
- 42:06at the schedule, can I find six wins here?
- 42:08I think I can find six wins here, right?
- 42:10I I think I can do that with his team because I don't think this
- 42:14team is is bad. I think they're just kind of
- 42:17coming off a pretty gosh darn Goodyear.
- 42:20They're going to retool. So yeah, I think it's a decent
- 42:24play at the over here. So I would lean over, but I had
- 42:28to make a decision. I went with Pitt, so I didn't go
- 42:30this direction. So but still, I think it's a
- 42:33pretty plausible play on the over at that 5 1/2.
- 42:36So those are my thoughts. And finally, Darren.
- 42:40Yeah, I mean, I like what this team is bringing back
- 42:43defensively, offensively, I just see potential issues here.
- 42:48I mean, Ashford last year was really good.
- 42:50And Pete, do you know who's quarterback in this team this
- 42:53year? I'll be my mom.
- 42:55I don't know. Nope, she might do better.
- 42:57It's Gio freaking Lopez, baby. My God, I knew.
- 43:01That South and you. Want to you want to rethink?
- 43:04You want to rethink that over lean.
- 43:05Because Geo Lopering is on the schedule.
- 43:08I mean, if I'm looking on the schedule, I mean Merrimack as
- 43:11the schedule is. Through.
- 43:13I mean, Stanford blows there's three, so I mean I can get 3 and
- 43:18can I get a real? Move ever?
- 43:20Is Gio Lopez leaving South Alabama?
- 43:23Well it's funny you mention that because the reason why Pete's
- 43:25over has some some greens to it is the offensive coordinator at
- 43:30Wake this year was Gio's offensive coordinator 2 years
- 43:33ago at South Alabama. So lock it up.
- 43:36I do not know that lock it up. Say hey, that's why you watch
- 43:40this show baby, because Tim is eye candy and we also bring out
- 43:44things that you may. Not, that's right, this.
- 43:46Would be interesting. I mean, talk about a guy.
- 43:49Talk about a guy who two years ago had a lot of buzz around him
- 43:53who has totally destroyed every aspect of his ability to go
- 43:59forward from here. Like from really good player to
- 44:02like, garbage. So if he can resurrect it, fine.
- 44:05I mean, I don't know but. I mean, we're gonna see what is
- 44:08he actually good and just going to North Carolina with no roster
- 44:11talent maybe hindered his progress.
- 44:14I mean, he's still in the ACC, which is not the toughest
- 44:18conference in the world if you're a.
- 44:19Power. Maybe Bill Belichick was holding
- 44:20him back. I think that's what.
- 44:22Maybe Bobby Petrino was ready to unleash him.
- 44:24You never know. That's true.
- 44:26But again, there's just not a lot coming back on this offense.
- 44:30Claiborne, their running back is gone.
- 44:32They got one of their two starters returning is on the
- 44:34offensive lines. There's going to be some work to
- 44:36do to to score some points here. Yeah, I I was looking at that
- 44:40schedule as Pete was talking. I don't even know if they're
- 44:44going to beat Purdue, man to be. Honest, I got three, maybe 4 I
- 44:48mean. I I mean Akron fine, Merrimack
- 44:51fine. Home against.
- 44:53Duke. Stanford fine.
- 44:56Is there two more in there? I don't know, no.
- 45:00I mean all those Rd. games are probably losses except maybe
- 45:04Purdue. Yeah I had a slight lead to the
- 45:09under upon reading the Gio Lopez news and then I went like no
- 45:12lean when I found out his offense coordinator was the same
- 45:15dude who was his offense coordinator 2 years ago.
- 45:17It's out in Alabama that. Could, could that combo, could
- 45:20that combo get him two more games?
- 45:21Could could Gio go off in a game?
- 45:24Could Gio go off in a game? Maybe.
- 45:25I mean, he could, right? Like an equal team.
- 45:29That's just not that good. Could he go off?
- 45:30He could he? He's done that before.
- 45:32So maybe so I don't know. That's someone that makes a
- 45:35tough bet because like, who knows?
- 45:38It's just it's hard to bet this thing.
- 45:40Yeah. And that like he went off at
- 45:41South Alabama, but he didn't face any defenses like Miami or
- 45:46Louisville or Virginia or SMU. Yeah.
- 45:49I I agree. I know.
- 45:50Different animal here that's. Why I didn't touch it, I don't
- 45:53fucking know. Yeah, I didn't either, right.
- 45:57All right, well, let's wrap this up.
- 45:59We do have our bets for this thing.
- 46:01I have Virginia Tech over 6 1/2 wins with three units beat.
- 46:07I got pit over 7 1/2, two units. So yeah, go for it man.
- 46:11That's a great bet, so go for it.
- 46:13Finally, Darren fading the tree under 3 1/2 wins plus 100.
- 46:18Just one. Or a tree or Andrew.
- 46:21All right, man, we got a bonus pick Preakness this weekend.
- 46:26Any thoughts guys? I got my pick up there.
- 46:28I've got Taj Mahal, Ocelli Talking and Corona de Oro.
- 46:34That's my I'm taking the 12511. I'm going to box that for a
- 46:37super. I like Taj Mahal to win.
- 46:40Don't sleep on Incredible. Don't sleep on Incredible.
- 46:43Yeah, that that horse got bump in the stretch that goes to a
- 46:47bump in the stretch. And he was coming, man.
- 46:49This this could be his place. So I don't know.
- 46:51We'll see. Maybe with the Mahal and talk
- 46:55and we got Jose and Irad Ortiz finishing one too.
- 46:57Again. Yeah.
- 46:58Yeah, that was fun to see. That was cool.
- 47:01Any thoughts Darren? Yeah, I'm going with Napoleon
- 47:04Solo here. Only four races.
- 47:06First race at Saratoga, won a maiden special weight and went
- 47:10to Belmont. Won a Grade 1, 26 couple of 5th
- 47:13place finishes in some grade twos.
- 47:15But check out those workouts man 3 workouts.
- 47:17I like it. 48 flat and a six furlong work at 1:10.
- 47:22He was my second. I like it, I love it.
- 47:25No, I'm going with Napoleon, Solo all.
- 47:27Right should have called Ray, he would have had like 7 all.
- 47:30All we'd be here another hour if you went with Ray.
- 47:32We don't have another hour. We're.
- 47:35Good. All right, everybody.
- 47:36Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching on YouTube.
- 47:39Hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back.
- 47:41What's our next one, the PAC 12 are we finally doing next week?
- 47:47I think we're doing the PAC 12. I think the PAC 12 numbers just
- 47:49came out. So anyway, thanks for watching,
- 47:52thanks for listening, and we will see you again next time.