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December 2, 2025 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 1: be here, uh in just twenty five thirty minutes or so,
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Speaker 1: and tomorrow I'm going to be visiting with Mark Shaw.
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Speaker 1: program tomorrow. Scott Clindennon will be here tomorrow, and I
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Speaker 1: have a reminder for you. This is the final week
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Speaker 1: of the regular season for Freddy's Fearless Football Forecast Contest,
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Speaker 1: Ten games, nine of them conference championships, including the tiebreaker
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Speaker 1: Alabama and Georgia, BYU Texas Tech, Indiana, Ohio State, Virginia
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Speaker 1: and Duke North Texas and Tulane, Kinnesaw State, Jacksonville State, UNLV,
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Speaker 1: Western Michigan. And we also threw in the Texans versus
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs just for good measure. Go in between now
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Speaker 1: and five pm Friday, we have five pickers within three
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Speaker 1: picks of the league. Someone's going to get their name
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Speaker 1: engraved on the trophy, which is why we all played
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Speaker 1: bragging rights. Friday's Fareless Football Forecast contests since the late fifties,
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Speaker 1: America's most loved football pick them contest, brought to you
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Speaker 1: by Chad Jones Law and Zwernemann Flory. We've got Aggie
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Speaker 1: basketball coming up. In about an hour. They are at
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Speaker 1: the Peterson Event Center in Pittsburgh, PA to take on
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Speaker 1: the pitt Panthers for the sec ACC Challenge. They are
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Speaker 1: coming off by far their best outing of the year
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Speaker 1: last Friday against Florida State. Tonight, Bragging Rights Conference, Bragging
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Speaker 1: Rights on the Line. I looked up the new net rankings.
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Speaker 1: A and M is seventy eight, Pitt is one forty five.
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Speaker 1: A and M should win. Doesn't always work that way.
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Speaker 1: Michigan's number one in the net. Then Duke Perdue. I
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Speaker 1: can't read my own writing. I wrote it down so fast.
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Speaker 1: Is it a V? That couldn't be a V? Because
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Speaker 1: Zaga is on their Arizona's on there. I would state
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Speaker 1: you Conn, Louisville, Michigan State, Vandy. Of course, Vandy's number
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Speaker 1: four the net. Wow, Vandy. It's the year of the
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Speaker 1: Door in Nashville, man, it is the year of the door,
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Speaker 1: and right now they probably have the Heisman favorite on campus.
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. Unless Mendoza or saying just
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Speaker 1: put on a clinic Saturday night, right They could do it.
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Speaker 1: We them could do it for certain. I'm just gonna
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Speaker 1: tell you they better put on a clinic to suade me.
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Speaker 1: But I can't say that right now. Can't tell you
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Speaker 1: who I'm voting for. My vote has to be in
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Speaker 1: by Monday afternoon. But I'll watch the games and we'll
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Speaker 1: see what happens. The other acc SEC games Oklahoma, Wake Forest,
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Speaker 1: Tennessee at Syracuse, Virginia Tech, South Carolina, Florida, and Duke Georgia,
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Speaker 1: Florida State, Missouri, Notre Dame, Miami, Ole, miss North Carolina, Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: That's telling Caleb, I don't know if I can stay
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Speaker 1: up for the end of that game it does. It
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Speaker 1: starts at eight thirty, which means eight forty five, so
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Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to make it. Tomorrow night Moore, LSU,
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Speaker 1: Boston College, Louisville, Arkansas, Clemson at Alabama, Mississippi State, Georgia Tech,
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Speaker 1: North Carolina State, Auburn, Virginia at Texas, and SMU Vanderbilt.
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Speaker 1: All of those games are on the tube. By the way,
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Speaker 1: Kentucky's playing tonight right against North Carolina. Friday night, they're
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Speaker 1: at the Music City Madness Tournament to play Gonzaga. I
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Speaker 1: mean these teams. I love the fact that you see
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Speaker 1: the best playing the best, and the way the CFP,
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Speaker 1: the CFP has screwed everything up. I'm concerned that that's
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Speaker 1: not going to happen anymore. Remember two years ago, three
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Speaker 1: years ago, they told everybody, hey, strength the schedule, you
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Speaker 1: got to start scheduling. And now it's like, h you
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Speaker 1: go twelve and zero against Gumby Tech and you're in.
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Speaker 1: You know, we we lied about that. Yon, Kansas, uh
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Speaker 1: Yukon and Kansas. That's tonight too, right, Okay, A damn,
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Speaker 1: that's at eight our time. Yes, and I don't have
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Speaker 1: the oh yes, I do. Wait a minute, I do
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Speaker 1: have the whole list. Michigan State's hosting Iowa, uh Yukon
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Speaker 1: and Kansas. Oh that's at Allen Fieldhouse. I'm gonna have
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Speaker 1: to watch that. That's ESPN two. That'll be right after
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Speaker 1: the A and M game. So yeah, I can do that.
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Speaker 1: That'll work. Okay, a lot of hoop tonight, and A
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Speaker 1: and M you know, goes to SMU that's on Sunday afternoon,
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Speaker 1: and then that's at four o'clock Sunday, I think technically site. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's at ut Arlington, which is weird. I don't understand
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Speaker 1: that at all. Why couldn't they do a home and
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Speaker 1: home with SMU? Would that? Would that have killed anybody
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Speaker 1: to sign up SMU for a home and home. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's not like SMU is a huge powerhouse. But I
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Speaker 1: don't know. You you might could get a quad one
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Speaker 1: win depending where's SMU in the net? Caleb, Look, come
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Speaker 1: and see where SMU is in the net, because they're
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Speaker 1: pretty good. I don't know why they wouldn't do that
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Speaker 1: and why they're playing at UT Arlington. I don't get
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Speaker 1: that at all. But hey, TV's doing it, so maybe
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Speaker 1: they're the ones that did everything forty one they're forty
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Speaker 1: one in the net.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 1: By the way, Texas Tech has extended Joey McGuire seven years,
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Speaker 1: seven million a year. Some more of that. Good Cody
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Speaker 1: Campbell money and the Tyler Rose Earl Campbell Player of
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Speaker 1: the Week Texas State quarterback Brad Jackson. All he did
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Speaker 1: was twenty of twenty six for twot eighty two scores,
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Speaker 1: rushed for another one hundred and thirteen yards and three touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: and the Bobcats became Bowl eligible last Saturday. Good on them.
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Speaker 1: All right, I told you I'm going to start replaying
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Speaker 1: some of my best, my favorite interviews. They may not
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Speaker 1: be the best. You'll be the judge of that. But
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Speaker 1: Eric Moyan wrote like a dictionary long book on the
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Speaker 1: history of college sports. Right now, we're going to jump
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Speaker 1: out to the Player's Fund Center phone line and visit
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Speaker 1: with Eric Moyen. And he has co written a book
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Speaker 1: called College Sports a History. It is thorough. Eric, Thanks
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Speaker 1: for your time. What did you learn when you started
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Speaker 1: researching for this book.
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Speaker 4: The research for this book actually started about twenty five
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Speaker 4: years ago when my co author who directed my dissertation
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Speaker 4: and died. The mentor. His name's John Dewn and he's
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Speaker 4: a real authority in the history of higher ed. About
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Speaker 4: twenty five years ago, I took a class hire and athletics,
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Speaker 4: and so I started to learn about these different things.
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Speaker 4: And I'm from Lexington, Kentucky. So I was doing my
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Speaker 4: PhD at UK and after graduation I was asked to
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Speaker 4: write a biography of an individual named Saint McVeigh. He
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Speaker 4: was President of UK for over twenty years. Kind of
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Speaker 4: turned it in from a small you know, a lot
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Speaker 4: of state schools around World War One when he took
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Speaker 4: overhead about a thousand students, and by the time he left,
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Speaker 4: right before World War Two, they had, you know, six
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Speaker 4: thousand students in a graduate school. And and but in
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Speaker 4: that process of writing this biography, in his role at UK,
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Speaker 4: I stumbled across all these boxes in his finals and
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Speaker 4: he was the founding president of the Southeastern Conference, and
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Speaker 4: just boxes and boxes of correspondence. And I really learned
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Speaker 4: then that athletics is a big deal. And a lot
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Speaker 4: of times academics say things like, oh, well, this is
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Speaker 4: this odd, you know, appendage to what's going on in
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Speaker 4: higher education, and the reality is it's not. For schools
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Speaker 4: large and small, athletics played a huge part in the
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Speaker 4: lifeblood of institutions, and as a way to keep alumni
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Speaker 4: and get aged, and as a way to provide pr
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Speaker 4: you know, you think a long time ago, Texas A M.
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Speaker 4: How is Texas A and M going to end up
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Speaker 4: in national press in nineteen thirty nine, right, The way
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Speaker 4: to do it, The way you're going to end up
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Speaker 4: in the New York Times is to win football games.
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Speaker 4: And presidents understood this, and so the kind of the
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Speaker 4: hilarity about it is Frank McVeigh was anti football, and
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Speaker 4: so he was working with a bunch of presidents trying
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Speaker 4: to de emphasize college athletics. And so this group forms
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Speaker 4: out of the old Southern Conference which went from Maryland
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Speaker 4: to Louisiana, and he formed a smaller group and the
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Speaker 4: goal of the SEC was to get commercialization out of
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Speaker 4: college athletics and bring it under the umbrella a really
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Speaker 4: ee in the academic enterprise. And so I've always kind
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Speaker 4: of joked with folks that the SEC is the most
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Speaker 4: successful failure ever because other presidents knew and understood what
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Speaker 4: this was all about. You can look at names on stadiums,
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Speaker 4: you know Ryant Denny. Denny is George Denny, who helped
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Speaker 4: build their stadium Stanford at UGA. He's their president and
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Speaker 4: he wants big time football, and so it's tied in
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Speaker 4: with this higher end policy. And I think that's really fascinating.
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Speaker 1: And one thing that should not surprise anyone is it
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Speaker 1: was in fact the SEC years ago that led the
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Speaker 1: way and admitting, hey, let's start getting some students quote
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Speaker 1: into school that are really good at football.
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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, And the first to begin offering scholarships, well,
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Speaker 4: let me say that a different way. The first to
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Speaker 4: offer scholarships above board, yeah, and say hey, we're just
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Speaker 4: doing this, and the SEC in the Old Southwest Conference
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Speaker 4: and then it would become the ACC. Those three conferences,
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Speaker 4: there was a lot of tumult in the nineteen forties
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Speaker 4: fifties about this, but the SEC was first and there
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Speaker 4: was a real divide. So when things happened like Texas
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Speaker 4: and Oklahoma joining the SEC, and you know, the ACC
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Speaker 4: and Big Ten and Pack twelve forming an alliance, you know, oh,
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Speaker 4: we're not going to Yeah, those animal those rivalries existed
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Speaker 4: in the thirties, forties and fifties when the Old Southwest
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Speaker 4: Conference and the SEC in particular fought battles at the
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Speaker 4: NC double A over various policies and practices, and the
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Speaker 4: Southwest Conference and the SEC would say, hey, we have
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Speaker 4: to offer well not publicly, but they would say we
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Speaker 4: need to offer scholarships because these wealthy Pacific Coast common
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Speaker 4: Prints or within the Pack eight or the Big Ten Conference,
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Speaker 4: they provide student jobs for all the students or alumni
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Speaker 4: say hey, let me subsidize this kid. I'll just I'll
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Speaker 4: pay for his college. Well, then it's not officially a scholarship,
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Speaker 4: it's just a friend yes, helping out and so the
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Speaker 4: SEC in the Southwest Conference, and we just need to
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Speaker 4: be honest and say we're going to consider athletic talent
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Speaker 4: as part of the deal here when we recruitse too.
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Speaker 1: You know, one of the big issues or things that
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Speaker 1: jumped out to me was there is really nothing new
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Speaker 1: under the sun. This quote battle between academics and athletics
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Speaker 1: has been going on just about one hundred and thirty years,
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Speaker 1: has it not?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely since the very first intercollegiate event, which was a regatta,
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Speaker 4: you know, a boat race between Harvard and Yale, which
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Speaker 4: had a commercial sponsorship and they paid players to get there,
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Speaker 4: and newspaper report were there and they needed the press
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Speaker 4: to publicize and hype this. There's this idea that there
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Speaker 4: was a golden age when everything was just like a
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Speaker 4: small liberal arts college and you know, fifty people would
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Speaker 4: sit on the hillside and watch a game, and that's
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Speaker 4: really not the case. It's been there all along, and you.
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Speaker 1: Make a case that and you've already mentioned a little
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Speaker 1: bit from Kentucky's perspective, but we went from small colleges
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Speaker 1: to major universities and a lot of that growth was
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Speaker 1: fueled by athletics. Was it not?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely? You know, there's this unintended consequence. In the eighteen hundreds,
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Speaker 4: college sports, it was run by students. Students would write
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Speaker 4: letters to students at other places, and they'd try and
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Speaker 4: set up schedules. Well, all of a sudden, and by
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Speaker 4: the way, there were commercial sponsorships then two kids at Harvard,
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Speaker 4: Gale and Princeton. Cigarette companies would pay their star players
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Speaker 4: to smoke these certain cigarettes and sell them on campus.
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Speaker 4: And as students were more interested in the athletic endeavors
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Speaker 4: than some of their academics, faculty started to say, hey,
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Speaker 4: we need to get control of this. So the faculty
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Speaker 4: associations that developed to try and kind of rein in
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Speaker 4: some of the abuses that were going on. Playing ringers,
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Speaker 4: those were players who really weren't students, and they went around,
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Speaker 4: they're basically players for hire.
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Speaker 1: Changed right, right.
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Speaker 4: And so faculty put these things together to try and
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Speaker 4: reform the problems that they saw, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 4: you have institutions behind this, and rather than a game
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Speaker 4: popping up here, a game popping up there. Newspapers know, hey,
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Speaker 4: these are the football skill here's the basketball schedule, this
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Speaker 4: is our home and away, this is our and it
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Speaker 4: actually gives life to a lot of these things. I
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Speaker 4: will say one one real success of the faculty influence
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Speaker 4: and the creation of the nc double A, which is
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Speaker 4: that we could spend an hour till yeah, just about that.
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Speaker 4: But his safety protocols in football. Football was an absolutely
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Speaker 4: violent game where players died every year, and the NCAA
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Speaker 4: came in and uh, well, the organization started to make
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Speaker 4: invented the allowed the forward pass and changed the downs
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Speaker 4: and spread out the field and that really really helped.
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Speaker 4: Well again, that help just popularizes more. So, Yes, it's
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Speaker 4: all part of this change and a fascinating story.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of schools in Texas that might
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Speaker 4: be like this. I'm thinking of places like Trinity or
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Speaker 4: other small liberal arts schools that you know. The SEC
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Speaker 4: one of the founding members was Sewanee, with a small
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Speaker 4: little liberal arts college on the Cumberland Plateau between Chattanooga
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Speaker 4: and Nashville. And in the nineteen hundreds, in the early years,
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Speaker 4: Sawanee was as powerful as Texas and Alabama and anyone else.
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Speaker 4: And yet by the nineteen thirties they can't win a
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Speaker 4: game in the SEC because the institutional type had changed
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Speaker 4: that there weren't these state universities that had a thousand
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Speaker 4: students and looked similar to little Arts college. They had
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Speaker 4: become what we would call a research university. Yeah, and
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Speaker 4: where there's specialization, where there's faculty control over faculty issues.
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Speaker 4: But then athletic directors, who at the time were primarily coaches,
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Speaker 4: controlled their realm, and of course they wanted to expand
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Speaker 4: and grow that, and it was hard to find a
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Speaker 4: president who didn't agree.
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Speaker 1: It seemed like for about the last like I said,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five years, about every twenty five
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Speaker 1: years there is a group of people who commission a
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Speaker 1: study of athletics. You know, you had the Carnegie Report
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Speaker 1: years and years ago, the Night Commission. I'm certainly more
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Speaker 1: than old enough to remember all of that, and that
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Speaker 1: hadn't been that long ago. But it seems like we're
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Speaker 1: due here in another decade or so for another commission
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Speaker 1: of people to study athletics versus academics, aren't we right?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And in another sense, I think we may have
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Speaker 4: missed a real opportunity. The commissions that do develop from
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Speaker 4: the Carnegie Foundation to the Night Commission, that they have
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Speaker 4: historically had this very very to use a term that
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Speaker 4: folks did one hundred years ago, signon pure attitude, where
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Speaker 4: we're talking about pure amateurism. I'd be interested to hear
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Speaker 4: my co authors take He might have a different idea,
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Speaker 4: but I have a sense that we really missed an
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Speaker 4: opportunity about five years ago when NIO was coming and
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Speaker 4: we could have put a group together the nca NCAA
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Speaker 4: could have said, hey, this name image likeness is coming
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Speaker 4: and we need to understand that this is a reality.
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Speaker 4: Now let's use it to help keep athletes in school.
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of Side MacLoughlin at Sydney Macgloplin at UK.
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Speaker 4: She won a bunch of gold medals in the Summer Olympics.
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Speaker 4: This last year. She was a freshman at UK and
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Speaker 4: she left. She loved being at UK, but she had
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Speaker 4: a new balance contract that she couldn't turn down. Why
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Speaker 4: couldn't we have said, and let's find a way to
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Speaker 4: if we believe in what we're selling, and I do
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Speaker 4: personally that higher ed matters and that it's good for
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Speaker 4: students to be here and this will change their life,
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Speaker 4: why don't we set something up where you've got these
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Speaker 4: two months during your off season to sign an nil deal,
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Speaker 4: the university will provide you presentation, let's tie it to
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Speaker 4: class attendance, Let's do these different things that really bring
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Speaker 4: athletics and academics together in some way. And instead the
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Speaker 4: NCAA tendant put their head into scenes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's really hard to believe given their history,
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Speaker 1: isn't it right?
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Speaker 4: Right? You know it was Johnny Manzeau. I guess it
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Speaker 4: was about decade ago. He was he was on the
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Speaker 4: cover of Time and it said it's time to pay
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Speaker 4: the players, yes, and and we just absolutely ignored that.
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Speaker 4: So we've ended up with the wild West yep as
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Speaker 4: opposed to something where we say, hey, we don't know
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Speaker 4: if we love this, but this is where this is going,
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Speaker 4: and let's provide we can figure out ways that benefit
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Speaker 4: the institutions and the players as well, that provide some regulation.
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Speaker 4: So you know, these studies have come along, it would
21:49
Speaker 4: have been interesting to see if we could have have
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Speaker 4: done one that.
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Speaker 1: I'm always interested in the racial aspects, which kind of
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Speaker 1: unfortunately reflected our society over the years. You mentioned players dying,
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Speaker 1: especially in the early nineteen hundreds when Teddy Roosevelt called
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Speaker 1: everybody to the White House, but in fact, African American
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Speaker 1: players died as a result of being targeted when they
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Speaker 1: were finally grudgingly allowed to play big time athletics. Correct.
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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, and those more sensational and absolutely tragic event
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Speaker 4: did happen, And I think a story underneath that is
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Speaker 4: even those who didn't. Yes, I'm thinking of John Westbrook,
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Speaker 4: who integrated Baylor, Jerry Lebias.
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Speaker 1: You know, I was so excited to see the information
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Speaker 1: on Jerry Lebias. He's a friend, He's been on this
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Speaker 1: show many times. He's a remarkable human being. Given everything
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Speaker 1: that he went through at some you was really I mean,
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Speaker 1: I call him the Jackie Robinson of college football. And
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm wrong to do that.
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Speaker 4: No, I don't. And we have to remind ourselves that
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Speaker 4: these are eighteen nineteen year old yes who oftentimes our
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Speaker 4: senses we may say, oh, well, well now we've desegregated
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Speaker 4: or now we've integrated, and we're not thinking about the
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Speaker 4: one person who Hey, the vast majority of people may
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Speaker 4: treat them in a civil form or fashion, but if
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Speaker 4: you have incessant races who are dead said on making
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Speaker 4: you uncomfortable. These folks they really felt alone and they
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Speaker 4: really were trailblazers who we really need to highlight their accomplishments.
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Speaker 4: And we talk a little bit about this in the book,
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Speaker 4: that there's a difference between integration, which means, hey, we
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Speaker 4: have black players on the team versus or sorry, desegregation
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Speaker 4: where we where we just have black players, and integration
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Speaker 4: where they're part of the team, players feel part of
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Speaker 4: the university. And and it was a painful process to get.
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Speaker 1: There, no question. For for the sake of time, Eric
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. The book is called college Sports
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Speaker 1: a History. It is exactly that. It has tremendously researched
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Speaker 1: a history of how we got to where we are.
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Speaker 1: Having done this, now give me some thoughts, your thoughts
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Speaker 1: going forward with college athletics.
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Speaker 4: Eric, so it in the last couple of paragraphs, I say,
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Speaker 4: it's a dangerous thing for historians to try and serve
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Speaker 4: as futurists. But I think that you know, the n
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Speaker 4: cua A has abdicated a lot of their control over
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Speaker 4: the last decade, unintentionally.
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Speaker 1: Their powerless basically right.
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Speaker 4: Yes, right, And that the power conferences, particularly the SEC
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Speaker 4: and the Big Ten, are in the driver's seat. And
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Speaker 4: you know, and since you've read the book, you know
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Speaker 4: this goes well, and you probably knew before reading the book.
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Speaker 4: This goes back to the College Football Association. Yes, the
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Speaker 4: lawsuit in the eighties to allow conferences or individual schools.
25:29
Speaker 4: I'm looking at you, Notre Dame, to be able to
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Speaker 4: keep their revenue. And so now that nothing happened in
25:37
Speaker 4: this interim we were talking about for ten years, it's
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Speaker 4: going to be interesting to see how the conference has
25:43
Speaker 4: worked us out. My personal opinion to keep college athletics
25:47
Speaker 4: a national phenomenon that has regional flavor is I hope
25:54
Speaker 4: we can end up with four power conferences rather than two.
25:58
Speaker 4: If we have to, we have too, I believe that
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Speaker 4: will turn into one, and we will uh and that
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Speaker 4: one will lose a lot of the regional history that
26:10
Speaker 4: we've had and the rivalries that exist, and they'll try
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Speaker 4: and figure that out, but it'll it'll exist in a
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Speaker 4: way that that I think that those will be diminished.
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Speaker 4: And I do hope that in the process there's a
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Speaker 4: discussion and honest discussion about college as an academic enterprise
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Speaker 4: and that we do utilize opportunities to provide educational opportunity
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Speaker 4: and encourage educational opportunities. You know, it's an interesting thing.
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Speaker 4: You know, for the last thirty years, people talk about, well,
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Speaker 4: college sports is professionalized. When we look back now in
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Speaker 4: our current landscape, we know that it wasn't purely amateur,
26:51
Speaker 4: but it wasn't purely pro like we have now, which
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Speaker 4: is a free agency at the end of every season.
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Speaker 4: So I think there'll be some them and restrictions on that.
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Speaker 4: But I hope that there's a way to not turn
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Speaker 4: into one super conference, but I don't know if that
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Speaker 4: will be the case or not.
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Speaker 1: The book is called College Sports a History. Eric Moyan
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Speaker 1: and John Feelin wrote it. It's through JOHNS Hopkins University Press.
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Speaker 1: Eric really enjoyed the book, and thank you so much
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Speaker 4: Been a pleasure, Chip, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: I hate that I miss this. I'd be poking people
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Speaker 1: You idiot? That's Tims and right.
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 1: Who who's Coleman Domingo?
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Speaker 4: Sir?
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Speaker 1: How did you get in here?
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Speaker 9: So this was the British, right you said?
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Speaker 1: Correct? Okay, so this was in London.
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Speaker 5: Maybe if we were British we would know these people.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So Apparently the Gotham Awards last night in New
33:24
Speaker 1: York weren't concerned with the London Royal Fashion Awards.
33:29
Speaker 9: So many awards.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's awards season and we didn't win anything. Not yet.
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Speaker 9: Let's see maybe the heart of our viewers, listeners.
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Speaker 1: The highest profile win of the three hour event was
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Speaker 1: Paul Thomas Anderson's shaggy, pulse pounding masterpiece one battle after another.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is one of those that the Oscar
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34:12
Speaker 1: There's a lot of those.
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Speaker 9: It's a masterpiece.
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34:36
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Speaker 1: myriad A listeners took the stage for last ditch Awards
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Speaker 1: announced next week. Julia Roberts, accepting a visionary tribute on
35:04
Speaker 1: her with After the Hunt director Luca Guadanino jokingly cut
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Speaker 1: her speech short for a bathroom break, said Julia I
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Speaker 1: didn't realize how long this was gonna go on, and
35:20
Speaker 1: I didn't regulate my water intake that Julia, She's such
35:27
Speaker 1: a clown.
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Speaker 9: So real.
35:29
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler meanwhile went on an uproarious, exploitive filled tangent
35:37
Speaker 1: as he presented j Jelly filmmaker Noah Bombach with a
35:43
Speaker 1: special director tribute, at one point calling out his former
35:48
Speaker 1: agent he moved back to Omaha and sells weed. He's
35:54
Speaker 1: bleeping useless, Sendler dead band. So here's the best I
36:02
Speaker 1: can tell for these Gotham Awards. Okay, okay, the people
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Speaker 1: from Hollywood take the Red Eye East, dress up in
36:15
Speaker 1: gowns and tuxes, eat good food, and then pat each
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Speaker 1: other on the back for three hours and go back
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Speaker 1: to Hollywood.
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Speaker 9: Do you think they're actually eating the good food? Well,
36:27
Speaker 9: you were talking.
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Speaker 1: About that was if they If they are eating it,
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Speaker 1: they're throwing it up, So you know you're right, it's
36:36
Speaker 1: a waste. It's a way.
36:37
Speaker 9: I wasn't inating.
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Speaker 1: That, but oh well, I mean done, Come on, get
36:42
Speaker 1: a grip, be real.
36:47
Speaker 9: That's me, the realist.
36:48
Speaker 1: Yes. So anyway, two big nights in London and New York.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't in either one of them.
36:56
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, though, I'm not that disappointed, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, neither neither one of those particular things. Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: what Yeah, I I can't be I can't be in
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Speaker 1: the same room with all those Hollywood phonies.
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Speaker 9: No, of course not. You would outshine them too, so
37:17
Speaker 9: they would.
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Speaker 1: Well true, they wouldn't want me there, buys you. Yeah,
37:20
Speaker 1: and plus plus I tell the truth. They don't like
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Speaker 1: that either.
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Speaker 9: Oh man, Well, let's shift gears.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, I know we just talked about London,
37:29
Speaker 5: so kinda. Prince Harry made his third trip to Canada
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Speaker 5: of the year on December first, So yesterday he appeared
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Speaker 5: at the Oria I don't know if that's actually pronounced
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Speaker 5: something or whatever, powerhouse conference in Toronto, Canada. The event
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Speaker 5: organized by our Ontario.
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Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, I know how to say it, Ontario Ontario.
37:53
Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 5: Sorry if I offended any Canadians with that, all right,
38:00
Speaker 5: we feel the same way when you say brazos instead
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Speaker 5: of brasses.
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Speaker 1: Take off, take off.
38:07
Speaker 5: Yeah, Real estate Association. Oh so that's what the O
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Speaker 5: r e A stands for. It's tough to self as
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Speaker 5: Canada's best political affairs conference, and he was slated to speak.
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Speaker 1: How much do you think Prince Harry gets per speech?
38:21
Speaker 9: You know what, I don't know.
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Speaker 5: You know, they gotta they gotta make something because Megan
38:26
Speaker 5: Markle's weird jams aren't selling on her website.
38:29
Speaker 1: I'm going to say one hundred, one hundred k. No,
38:32
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars.
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Speaker 9: You know, you've got to do a lot of speech,
38:42
Speaker 9: one hundred K.
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Speaker 1: Megan's like, are you leaving again? Are you going to
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Speaker 1: Canada again? Princes like, hey, they're the only country that'll
38:51
Speaker 1: pay me one hundred bucks to come up here, So yes,
38:53
Speaker 1: I'm going.
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Speaker 9: Don't make your jams, Meghan. Yah. I gotta work, Yeah,
38:58
Speaker 9: I gotta.
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Speaker 1: I gotta provide for these kids.
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Speaker 5: It was according to the schedule, it was due to
39:06
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Speaker 5: last session of the day at the Hilton Toronto.
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Speaker 1: So you get to pay extra to sit around with Harry.
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Speaker 11: I guess.
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Speaker 5: There were no photos of princepub released, but O r
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39:28
Speaker 5: anticipation for his session.
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Speaker 9: In a photo dubbed built last pick before Prince Harry.
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Speaker 1: So Harold apparently has a no photo clause right in
39:42
Speaker 1: his contract.
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Speaker 5: Do you think he's critical of photos of himself and
39:46
Speaker 5: that's why no one's getting, you know, get the wrong
39:50
Speaker 5: angle of me.
39:51
Speaker 1: The last time I remember, he was photographed in a
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Speaker 1: suite in Las Vegas with a bunch of hookers and
39:58
Speaker 1: blow and uh, that didn't do too well for him.
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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe that has something to.
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Speaker 9: Do with his picture. I'm picturing his kids randomly seeing
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Speaker 9: that photo.
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Speaker 5: What is this?
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Speaker 1: Somebody photoshop my kids?
40:15
Speaker 9: Let's move on, thank thank god.
40:18
Speaker 1: Okay, so listen to this. Apparently after this Gotham Award
40:24
Speaker 1: last night, Hugh Jackman named Kate Hudson went to a
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40:37
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40:48
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40:55
Speaker 1: for their flick song Sung Blue. In other words, the
40:59
Speaker 1: Gotham Awards made up a new award to get Hugh
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Speaker 1: and Kate to come to their party, going, Oh, this
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Speaker 1: movie you guys have made is the best we've ever seen. Now,
41:10
Speaker 1: we've never given an award like this before, but if
41:13
Speaker 1: y'all come, we'll give you an award. So apparently that's
41:16
Speaker 1: what happens.
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Speaker 9: We'll give you something. Uh.
41:19
Speaker 1: Hugh and Kate born for the movie. They huddled up
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Speaker 1: with Palells, belting their hearts out and wrapping the night
41:27
Speaker 1: in celebration song sung Blue, which I'm actually going to
41:32
Speaker 1: try to go see this time, seriously follows two down
41:37
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41:42
Speaker 1: proving it's never too late to chase love and a dream.
41:48
Speaker 1: It comes out on Christmas Day.
41:52
Speaker 9: Look, I've heard of cover bands before, yes, but imagine
41:56
Speaker 9: being a Neil Diamond.
41:59
Speaker 1: Not only a Neil Diamond cover band, but an unsuccessful
42:02
Speaker 1: Neil Diamond cover band. I mean, what bar? What more
42:08
Speaker 1: could you want in a movie than that?
42:12
Speaker 9: That baseline right there? How does Neil Diamond feel about that?
42:16
Speaker 1: I mean, actually I saw a clip. Ok, Look, these
42:20
Speaker 1: guys have been everywhere. I'm skeptical that this movie is
42:25
Speaker 1: very good because, oh my gosh, are they promoting this movie?
42:31
Speaker 1: They have been everywhere promoting this movie and.
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Speaker 9: Hard.
42:37
Speaker 1: Kate had a little clip of going to actually visit Neil.
42:41
Speaker 9: So that's nice.
42:44
Speaker 1: She didn't she didn't say, you know what Neil told
42:49
Speaker 1: him he thought about the movie, or you know, not
42:54
Speaker 1: to make light. But but Neil's getting a little old
42:57
Speaker 1: and had to get off the road because he has
43:01
Speaker 1: I think Parkinson's maybe, I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah
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Speaker 1: he was. He was diagnosed, I don't know, within the
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Speaker 1: last six to eight months, I think, so he had
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, wow, what she give the best Neil, good job, Neil,
43:21
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Speaker 9: We really don't even talk about her that much, but
43:28
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43:32
Speaker 5: Fans who think she might be engaged way Max Mirando.
43:36
Speaker 1: I don't know why she's engaged Max Miranda.
43:40
Speaker 5: Maybe apparently the Wrecking Ball hit maker had fans chatty
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Speaker 9: In Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's lots of.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, she had a diamond ring on that finger.
43:55
Speaker 5: This sparkler set in a thick gold band couldn't be
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44:07
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Speaker 1: Nice. Well, I wish the best for those lovely kids.
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Speaker 1: I don't see how that couldn't work out. Well, I
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46:54
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, she went to Great Links. You know,
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Speaker 9: Diddy, right, Yes, I did hear that.
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Speaker 1: he wants to quote fight for his life. Comes describes
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Speaker 1: taking the accusations head on, with his attorney, appearing to
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