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Talking NCAA Basketball · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Conniting and everybody and walk for the second half of
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  Speaker 1: that show was. I expect this one to even be
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  Speaker 1: NTAA basketball. If you think we're gonna give you a bracket,
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  Speaker 1: you go from there, because there is a lot to digest.
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  Speaker 1: So introducing my crew, Penman, welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much for having me back. It's always
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  Speaker 3: fun talking sports and what better time. March madness is
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  Speaker 3: upon us and.
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  Speaker 1: A new mister Opinion and the sparkplog of this show
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  Speaker 1: is named it Jacob Christner. And when I say spark blog,
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Chrisner to find spark blog and well as anybody.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if cars have him anymore, but they
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  Speaker 1: did back in the day when you need it in
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  Speaker 1: the run, But Jacob Chriser is the spark blood and
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  Speaker 1: the mister opinion of the show. I glad he is on.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have my glove, I don't have the really
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  Speaker 4: thin glasses and I'm mister fat so.
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  Speaker 1: Well and say I had mine picks. I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: All right, George, iikrn my partner and the sorts of
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  Speaker 1: j Forever.
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  Speaker 5: The four four forty five years, my partner in crime,
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  Speaker 5: mister Scott, Motor City mad.
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  Speaker 1: Now you got it all right? Well, where are we
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  Speaker 1: going to start with this show? I'm all starting with
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  Speaker 1: the all time best n CA winning percentage, and I
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  Speaker 1: throw these numbers at you, everybody. These are going to
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  Speaker 1: be unbelievable numbers. Duke starts it out with seven forty
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  Speaker 1: eight or one nineteen and forty North Carolina one thirty
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  Speaker 1: two and forty nine, and unbelievable. When I look at
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  Speaker 1: those numbers, uclabel the seven nineteen number, one fifty and
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  Speaker 1: forty five. Actually I'm looking at North Carolina's number, and
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  Speaker 1: you talk about identical. It's just unbelievable. So I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna go for records, forget about percentages. So we'll start again,
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  Speaker 1: seven forty eight, one nineteen and forty North Carolina one
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  Speaker 1: thirty two and forty nine. To the tournament, UCLA went
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  Speaker 1: fifteen and forty five. And then again when you expect down,
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  Speaker 1: Wooden was part of that Florida Gators by many who
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  Speaker 1: are really predicted to win it all. And I'm definitely
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  Speaker 1: gonna predict the forty Gators to win it all. And
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  Speaker 1: just Jayhawks. Another blue blood program, Michigan Wolverines sixty six
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  Speaker 1: and thirty they're winning percentages actually sixty eighty eight, Connecticut
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  Speaker 1: six seventy seven, sixty five and thirty one. Michigan State's
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  Speaker 1: in the conversation with the seventy five and thirty five number.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, let's not forget you've got the New
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  Speaker 1: York City College who was four wins and two lawses
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  Speaker 1: and six six sixty seven mark. They were demoted to
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  Speaker 1: Division three due to a point shaving stand. And how
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  Speaker 1: about the Poort Atlantic University owls or six sixty seven
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  Speaker 1: or to the common antimator edm Indiana sixty eight four
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  Speaker 1: and thirty six fifty four. Bobby Knight had a lot
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  Speaker 1: to do with it, unfortunately for I lost the night
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  Speaker 1: dating in the n I T So of all those teams,
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  Speaker 1: which one stand out to you? Guys? Hey, we'll turn
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  Speaker 1: it off.
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  Speaker 2: I like Duke in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I want to elaborate.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I like I like Duke in Florida in the
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  Speaker 2: in the championship, but I have Duke Florida, Auburn, and
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  Speaker 2: Houston in the final four.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we'll give him his prediction right there, Candy. As
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  Speaker 1: far as the numbers are concerned, and the coaches, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about tom As though, Bobby Knights and there John Wooden.
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  Speaker 3: I think I had seen a stat that said just
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  Speaker 3: every all the team since ninety seven that have won
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  Speaker 3: the national championship, it have been just like from Mississippi
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  Speaker 3: River East, but I think it was the line was
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  Speaker 3: a little bit further over, and it just goes to
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  Speaker 3: show you, like the strength of some of the coaches
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  Speaker 3: that we've had. I mean, that's that's what you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about when you're talking about all those percentages, is the
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  Speaker 3: strength of coaching. Because to be able to say you
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  Speaker 3: have that much of a winning percentage and you've played
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  Speaker 3: how many games? The strength of the coaches, I would say,
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  Speaker 3: has what resonates with me when you talk about those percentages.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Myzeki in there, I could Bobby Knight some
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable names. Let me about college basketball. You have some
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches out there, and I'm playing all right,
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  Speaker 1: mister opinion. But you're taking all of.
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  Speaker 4: This k r z y z Wski Shazski himself, he's
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  Speaker 4: an all time great. But here's the thing. I've got
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  Speaker 4: my final four. It's all Burn, Yukon, Duke, and Kentucky.
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  Speaker 4: I've got I've got Duke because Cooper Flag I think
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  Speaker 4: he stays healthy enough to go for it. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's Auburn because they've got all the sixty seven year
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  Speaker 4: olds in there. They got from the LA Fitness League.
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  Speaker 4: You know that they're actually they're average just twenty three
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  Speaker 4: years old, so they're going much older. They've got that.
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  Speaker 4: I've got Kentucky because like Mark Hope's done a lot,
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  Speaker 4: heck of all a job, you know, building on that.
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  Speaker 4: And Yukon, even if they're the eight seed, they're still
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  Speaker 4: when you're a national champion twice and you had that expectation,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna shock you a little bit. It's the same
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  Speaker 4: I see North Carolina wining a game or two extra,
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  Speaker 4: it's just because it's I mean, they won by twenty
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  Speaker 4: seven last night. You just surprised, you just shocked because
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  Speaker 4: the media went completely after them. Personally, I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think Indiana West Virginia orders Caroline should have
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  Speaker 4: made it, but somebody had to. So the thing is, though, Hubert,
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  Speaker 4: I mean Hubert, Hubert's a great coach, tremendous. He's a
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  Speaker 4: tremendous coach. For note, I mean for North Carolina. Look
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  Speaker 4: how far they've gotten in the past, so they'll get
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  Speaker 4: they're not gonna win at all, but they're getting a couple.
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  Speaker 4: So there's that. But I've got my that's my thing
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  Speaker 4: right there. And as far as you see, La, I
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  Speaker 4: think ninety five percent of their losses were after Wooden. Anyway, So.
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  Speaker 1: You've ever seen a game where the old polity pabelion
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  Speaker 1: that one was the greatest things I've ever done. And
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  Speaker 1: meet coach John one his prem the success Or just unbelievable,
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  Speaker 1: and tell you some I go buy those all the time,
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  Speaker 1: I really do. If you want to talk about something,
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  Speaker 1: they can memorize, whether you read a book or you don't.
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  Speaker 1: John Wooden Pyramids of success Or Wizard is what it is. Georgie,
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  Speaker 1: I know you get a chance to me what stands
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  Speaker 1: out about what you have. I've talked about the all
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  Speaker 1: time best winning percentages. A lot of that gets thrown
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  Speaker 1: out the door. I think the most surprising one though,
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  Speaker 1: at seeing New York City College in there. Nobody expected
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  Speaker 1: that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 5: I think that list would have been more fairer, if
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  Speaker 5: you will, if it was a minimum of the so
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  Speaker 5: many appearances, because you got teams on there that did
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  Speaker 5: not make a lot of appearances, but they did well.
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  Speaker 5: So like a super Bowl, Oh we're two and one
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  Speaker 5: in the super Bowl. Well, but we've only gone two times. Michigan.
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  Speaker 5: When you said Michigan, Scott, that kind of surprised me,
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  Speaker 5: only because they haven't gotten there very frequently. Now, Juwan
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  Speaker 5: Howard got him there, and of course Steve Fisher and
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  Speaker 5: we know all about that. But what I'm saying is
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  Speaker 5: that you don't think of Michigan as a basketball school
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  Speaker 5: very much. Michigan State, of course, But the fact is,
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  Speaker 5: like you said that the personage is still better. Michigan
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  Speaker 5: State's winning percentage is lower than Michigan's. So that kind
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  Speaker 5: of was a surprising one, Scott. But the other ones, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I totally get it. With UCLA, and like you said, Candy,
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  Speaker 5: these are great coaches in these programs. I mean, these
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  Speaker 5: coaches are winning coaches, led of course by the great
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  Speaker 5: John Wooden, the one who's not. I don't think you
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  Speaker 5: mentioned is Indiana, because as as great a coach as
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  Speaker 5: Bob Knight was, he did not come through with Final
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  Speaker 5: four victories like I thought he did and it would
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  Speaker 5: in his career.
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  Speaker 4: But hey, well you had three national titles, so you know,
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  Speaker 4: well that's true.
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  Speaker 5: That's better than Michigan and Michigan State. That's true.
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  Speaker 4: Well they got I think they made three other Final four.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm like, he, I think the thing is, let
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  Speaker 4: me just say this, George. The thing about Bob Knight is,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's the same boat as say Kirby's smart
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  Speaker 4: for football. I think they're gonna he's gonna get his
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  Speaker 4: wins just like Kirby because he's wonderful. But I think
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  Speaker 4: the overly screaming and hollering and and everything like that
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  Speaker 4: in any era, it's like you probably leave money on
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  Speaker 4: the table or wins on the table just because you're
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  Speaker 4: shaking them. Dang up. Sometimes you just don't need sometimes
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  Speaker 4: you need to get in their face, and sometimes you know,
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  Speaker 4: you just kind of need to teach. And Bob Knight
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  Speaker 4: never understood the difference.
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  Speaker 5: No, No, he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, but.
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  Speaker 4: Coach, he probably wins on the table.
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  Speaker 1: Well, coach is meant a PNT double A Dean smith
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  Speaker 1: I was actually nineteen eighty two Final four New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: Now being as a fan over super Home. Dean Smithland's
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  Speaker 1: the first one. Pretty neat. I actually have a T
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  Speaker 1: shirt pinned on my in my office that shows that
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  Speaker 1: I was there. It's pretty cool t shirt. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: that was when I welighed about one hundred and some pounds.
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  Speaker 1: I've definitely had a little bit more meat than that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get into that, but this tournament's all about the
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  Speaker 1: coaches that really have and know. The chat isn't shut
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  Speaker 1: off Joshua, So you know, I have to let's have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of full with Joshua dorricause we want
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  Speaker 1: to make sure it feels all right to see. Definitely
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  Speaker 1: says that you're a legend on the show. Jacob Christner
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  Speaker 1: still had the most legendary show in the channel ever,
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  Speaker 1: and that is fine alone. I'm glad that he's sticking
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  Speaker 1: his tongue at you because he remember what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But josh I had to met Joshah do shut off.
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  Speaker 1: You're probably the life of the chat anyway, Joshua, don't
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  Speaker 1: know where you were up the first one, but I
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  Speaker 1: know you were building up for this one. I made
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  Speaker 1: sure that when we friend Jacob on. Here's a major
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  Speaker 1: motivation why I want you on here, because you guys
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  Speaker 1: could go out there and realize that Jacob, to me
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  Speaker 1: is the most valuable person on this network because he
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  Speaker 1: is nicer than Howard Cosell, who I can't comic anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I got, I got better hair than the Yeah, that's true,
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  Speaker 1: well cochell all he ended a run.
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  Speaker 4: But no, Patino is not making the final four.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, something the Florida Gator is gonna win the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: I do all I have to do because the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the media distrimation, let's come to me, I read
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  Speaker 1: what these guys are putting up pretty hard to go
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  Speaker 1: against everybody on the planet that makes that they ended
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  Speaker 1: up doing. But yeah, Mike Rushevski did well. It's all
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  Speaker 1: about the coaches early. What it is wheny of a
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  Speaker 1: coach has been there a while, then it's one thing, Jacob,
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  Speaker 1: I could barely see you, Okay, So you might want
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  Speaker 1: to have a different camera angle there because I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to feel like we're inviting Isis on the program.
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  Speaker 1: Kitty with you Jacob with all due respect coaches was
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  Speaker 1: maxed up dancy tournament. But the guy i'd like to
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  Speaker 1: see when it would be Bruce Pearl because he hates
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  Speaker 1: the NC DOUBLEA. He told me that in Alabama. Remember, Candy,
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  Speaker 1: I hate DNC double. You ever want to talk to me,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you all about him. Oh yeah, there, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I met Bruce Pearl years and years ago when he's
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  Speaker 4: a Southern Indiana come to Quincy. I mean, good guy,
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  Speaker 4: He's real good dude.
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  Speaker 1: Those ree samples. I I'm gonna get out to Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to talk about. Sure, he would talk to
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  Speaker 1: me anyway. Why why wouldn't they try to keep it real?
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  Speaker 1: Or really seriously? Really there you go by the way,
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  Speaker 1: there will be a hat come out up there, Candy,
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  Speaker 1: some docts real quick before he proc No one knows
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  Speaker 1: we have plenty of them.
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  Speaker 3: I've already went, Scott, I already talked about coaches and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So we'll keep it going.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I told you we were loaded people, all right. So
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  Speaker 1: a year after Michigan finish at twenty four dust, we
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  Speaker 1: may take Michigan to a twenty five and nine and
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  Speaker 1: Big ten tournament championship and fifty nine fifty three win
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  Speaker 1: over the Wisconsin Badgers. Michigan will face University of California
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  Speaker 1: San Diego, which is thirty in or in the fivefolve matchup.
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  Speaker 1: This is San Diego's first trip to the Big Dance. Ooh,
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  Speaker 1: this is a scary thing when you're talking about a
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  Speaker 1: team that's in there for the first time in a
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  Speaker 1: five to twelve. So, Kenman, what do you think about
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  Speaker 1: the five to twelve? Where do you know much about
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  Speaker 1: the five fall? I don't think anybody old about the
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  Speaker 1: University California and San Diego any er you want to defer? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: no prom Kenny, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: So Dusty May used the transfer portal, and not only
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  Speaker 3: did he go to Michigan, but he brought over Glad Goldin,
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  Speaker 3: who is having a great season. Uh he only expanded
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  Speaker 3: from last year and then does and he are still
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  Speaker 3: brought some over some other great players. The transfer portal
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  Speaker 3: was his friend, and I think that's why he greatly improved.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: He don't get me wrong, he's a he's a really
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  Speaker 3: good coach and Michigan did really good with that higher.
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  Speaker 3: I think Michigan will win this game because I think
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  Speaker 3: they'll be ready for the team, and I think that's
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  Speaker 3: part of the key. But Dusty May is a great coach.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he was at FAU last year. We got
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  Speaker 3: to talk to him, we got to know him, we
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  Speaker 3: wished him well, and Michigan really rebounded. But I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of it was the transfer portal, and of
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  Speaker 3: course Dusty May. The culture has changed up there, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that's Keith as well.
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  Speaker 1: Michigan bands well is in good hands. All right, Jacob,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the wolves.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you this. You would bring up
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  Speaker 4: the five to twelve earlier. And the thing about the
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  Speaker 4: five twelve is I I've always had that knowledge. I
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  Speaker 4: always had that rule in my brackets. I always have
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  Speaker 4: two fives and two twelve that I picked just very variety,
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  Speaker 4: always do and most of the time of kind of ride,
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  Speaker 4: just because it's how it goes. You don't see four
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  Speaker 4: twelves win. You don't see four fives win. So I'm
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  Speaker 4: right and wrong. It's sort of splits. So but Michigan,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know how a word. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Dusty May done a great job, but I don't have
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  Speaker 4: a real prediction who wins this game, truly, and I
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  Speaker 4: don't remember why I put in the bracket, but I
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  Speaker 4: can see this game go down to the wire just
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  Speaker 4: because it's a five twelve. That's what you know. Darn
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  Speaker 4: goodwill does go to the buzzer. So I mean they'll
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  Speaker 4: be a good game.
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  Speaker 1: Though, what do you think, George.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think there should be concern. This is a
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  Speaker 5: team that moves into Division one H. It was in
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  Speaker 5: one A in basketball. They this is the first time
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  Speaker 5: ever in this tournament, so there is a lot unknown.
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  Speaker 5: They're showing highlights of this team and it looks like
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  Speaker 5: they're playing in a high school gym in San Diego County. Anyways,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not taking anything away from them. These kids can run,
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  Speaker 5: they can score. They play a lot of good defense too.
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  Speaker 5: Michigan has got to be fully prepared from the moment
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  Speaker 5: the opening tip off. I think they'll win, but it
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  Speaker 5: will be a close game. I congratulate Dusty. He did
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  Speaker 5: the best job of any Big Ten coach I heard
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  Speaker 5: in history, from the team's record from the previous year
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  Speaker 5: to as far as he got, which is winning a tournament.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry the conference tournament game. Nobody did it like
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  Speaker 5: that with I mean Michigan the records is what I'm
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  Speaker 5: talking about, twisting the records from Juwan Howard's disaster of
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  Speaker 5: last year. Right, So, anyways, everybody's happy with Dusty. He's
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  Speaker 5: done a great job. He's twin towers, they got seven footers,
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  Speaker 5: He's got a lot of excitement on that team. Just
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  Speaker 5: the kids are really buying in, and Michigan will win
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  Speaker 5: at the opener.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have Ward Mandel only waited until mid season,
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  Speaker 1: give them an extension and him a ray because Indiana
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  Speaker 1: was on the field to get him, so wardon Manuel
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  Speaker 1: knew he had to keep the guy in ann Arbor.
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  Speaker 1: And I will give you to the fact that Indiana
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  Speaker 1: hired a coach from West Virginia, which felt it should
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  Speaker 1: have gotten in the NCAA Tournament but didn't. But that's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: another day for those times. Michigan doesn't win many blowouts. Anyways,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like Georgia is right. It's going to be
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: much less than most people think. What that said, Let's
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: go to their rival in Ohio State Buckeyes, who actually
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: turned down an invitation to the n i t in
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: the College Basketball Crown after failing to make mark tremendous
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: of the third team out behind West Virginia and Indiana,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: and you hire a new coach. Yeah, that new coach
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: came from West Virginia, and he talks about Ohio State
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: just turning down an opportunity to play in the post
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: season Pendent.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: That's surprising to me because Ohio State is a I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: hate them too, by the way, but everybody that knows
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Ohio State, they know they win, they win, they win.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: They just wont a national championship and now they wanted.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: But turning down a post season birth is just mind blowing.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: So it's just crazy that they turned it down. So
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the reasoning is, but it's just
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: mind blowing.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I'll tell you one thing we're gonna
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: do throughout the show too. It's talk about the NIT
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: because you're not gonna get any opportunities after tonight to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: talk about it about of the other teams, I think
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the biggest intrigued about the NIT is the team that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: turned it down. And I'll have a rant or two
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that take it. We'll talk about later in the show,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: so please stay with us. But Katy, go ahead.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: So one of the things that I read was that
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: a lot of the guys on Ohio State were sick
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: with a virus that they came down the final weeks
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: of the season and going into the tournament. So I
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: don't know how healthy they were to accept NIT or
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: were their egos a little hurt that they didn't get
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: into the big dance and so they didn't want to
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: do I don't know, but I do know I read
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: that they did have a virus, and I know that
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: there is a bad virus going around, so maybe part
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: of it was some of their players weren't healthy enough
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: that they felt they couldn't perform up to their standards
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: in accepting.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: A bid to the NAT Jacob, you know, the big
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: thing about it is there's been a couple others Indiana
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: didn't accept theirs either, But you know, it's a n
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I T. You know what that means, not in tournament,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: but still it's the big But the here's the thing though,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: one of the biggest things about it is the fact
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: in one case everybody used to accept the n it T.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Everybody did. It's not fun, it's not the tournament. It
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: could help coaches, you know, it could help coaches, you
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: be able to recruit it. It's wait, it used to be.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: See you're gonna see a lot more of this because
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: you could say we had a tough year and we
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: still want the n IT, you know, and then there's
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: recruit bigger players and then we're gonna get to that NCAA.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: All that stuff that was the past. What you're having
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: now is nil. It does not matter. You can go
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: four and twenty get you pay enough money and it
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: goes right and doesn't matter anyway. So as far as
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the n I T, the n I T will say
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: alive because there's a there's gonna be a billion others
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: with like fifteen to twenty records that you can just
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: call that's still want to keep playing. They may have
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: had a hot streak, all that kind of stuff like that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: You'll just see. The thing is the n T will
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: basically be what the CIIT is now, and the ci
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: T is probably out of business, you know that kind
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: of deal. Those the ones that used to go to
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: the c I T will probably go to n now
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: that's my thing. So I mean, so, I mean, it's
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: gonna be just a different deal now, especially when people
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: turn them down. So I'm not surprised. Maybe it was
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: for that, but Indiana didn't have that excuse. And personally,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: when I say this about Indiana, they needed to get
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Steve offered, not this guy. They needed to get offered
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: because they need that excitement that Kentucky bro Mark Pro
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: bought Kentucky. You know, they need to be able to
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: do it because they have absolutely no aura there right now,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: That's just what I'm saying.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Well, but they had an Indiana guy and Mike Woodson
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: didn't work out. So when they go back on again,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: when does it work out with him at all?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Ever?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, not in tournament. I remember that, And I got
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to say someone will remember too. About tonight's show. In
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the first hour that we're talking about, Mark Perry talked
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: about DC Defenders being America's team. Well, yeah, the United
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Football League. Now I'm going to remember what you just said.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I have a couple of memorable things are turned over
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to George.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Well, you know Ohio State, you know Indiana, West Virginia.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: You're always going to have teams that feel they deserve
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: to be in those final slots, the final four, not
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: the first flour out. And they have some legitimate things.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Now North Carolina one and eleven against powerful teams. What happened, Pensman.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: How many points did they blow them out last night?
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: By?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Fifteen?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Twenty seven?
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Twenty seven? Okay, now listen, why are they boys and
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: girls finished seventeen and fifteen? Tenth place? Can I repeat that?
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Tenth place in the Big ten? Okay, So we're not
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: talking about a team that just ran over all its
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: competition this year. Were Borderline Indiana. I get it, I
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: get it. But their coaches left and in West Virginia.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's always gonna be good teams. It's never
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: gonna be settled. It's never You're always gonna have teams
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: on the cusp. All I can say is, please reconsider
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: when you think about those things. As I've heard that before.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: Oh we're not going to the n I T Well,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: you know what, it does give you more practice time.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: It does bring in a few more dollars for your
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: for your athletic program, social and maybe a few extra
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: shirts or T shirts or caps. But I don't know.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Some people are nearrowminded. I guess I don't know how
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: they do that. The vote voters with the coaches, with
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: the players or both.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, Candy, So I was just doing some more research
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: and the Big Tens partnership with Fox, which is producing
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: the Crown, which is a different tournament. The top two
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Big Ten teams in the NET rankings not selected for
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: the NCAA Tournament were contractually obligated to participate in the Crown.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Declining the invitation meant the Buckeyes were prohibited from playing
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: in any other event. We explored not going to the
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Crown and trying to get into the NIT is a
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: potential option, and because of the deal the Big Ten has,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: that wasn't an option for us. It was Crown or nothing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: We couldn't do NT this year because we were the
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: highest rated NET team in the league not to be selected,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: and this Crown. Just so we also know, the transfer
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: portal for basketball opens March twenty fourth and closes April
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: twenty second. The Crown begins March thirty first and ends
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: April sixth, so that would has something to do with
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: it too.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well all right, let's keep it on
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: point though, Kadie. Okay, we're talking about Ohio State. We're
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about some of the turndowns. I'll
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: get to that later. Maybe it's poisoned for me to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: give you copices earlier. Make you think about it. Top
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you're at no.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying Ohio State had to turn it down
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: because they because of the contract with Big ten has
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: with Fox.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: All right, but but on one second though, you're telling
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: me that there was a virus. So let's let's get
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the story straight, Katie. Is it a virus or Fox?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: It's the Fox thing. But they also weren't healthy going down,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: and that's what they didn't make the NC two A.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's okay, that's I just want to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: make sure I get it straight till we understand. And
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Frank Renolds to say, let's get this thing straight. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: agree with you, Ralph pit should not have turned down
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the n I t if any thing, they could definitely
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: use it. But you do get some extra recruitsive teams
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: are in the un it it's a great way to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: close your program, and unfortunately some of these schools missed out.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: But it's about whether you're getting it right or not.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jacob's Lyne not invited tournament. I get that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I enjoy the humor, I really really do. Yeah, So
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I get that I would rather just call it a day.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Move on and go from there. And in the aniscate,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: maybe one of the reasons they turn it out, they're
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: focused on their coaching search and they tucked them a
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: little one away from a team that got left out
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: for some of these different variables. When you're talking about
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: as far as I concern with Ohio State turning it down,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that a virus said anything to do
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: with it. But I'm a firir believer. If you can
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: play an extra game, you get more experienced to do it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: If you can't for out circumstances under control, that's another story.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: But I tell you what will leave me my next time.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Then we're going to go to our firstation break. A
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: team that should have and did turned down the tournament
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: was LSU declined the nip you know why? They were
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: fourteen and eighteen, no different than a sub five hundred
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: team going to a bowl game. LSU was justified turning
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it down. I've been embarrassed to the fourteen and the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: record of play in any tournament. Pevan, I know you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: can able that you're able to figure this one out.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: You go win any tournament fourteen and eighteen, regardless of contend.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. That's little five hundred, so you
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: can't Yeah four d be blow.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Well remember this about an under five hundred teen. The
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: last the team last night that's lost by two points,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: that Alabama State beat was sixteen to nineteen, right, So
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I mean they got into the first four, so who knows,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: they don't forget some of them sneak in with that
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: postseason conference tournament.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how they become eligible. So I mean you're
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: gonna have that. That's gonna happen once in a while.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: You got a big field like that, what is it,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: sixty four, sixty eight, sixty eight, you know, so it's
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: gonna happen. But it's not the ideal thing though, of
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: course not. But I like that Scott. They said they
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: turned it down with that sub five hundred record.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I learned something new last night that you can
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: get in and you'd be one in twelve in the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: quads out.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well there you go. Yeah, North Carolina.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: That's definitely under five hundred, So one in twelve, one
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: at twelve and quad, Yeah, you can get in. That's fine, okay,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: but you went ninety five to sixty eight, so I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: don't know what I know.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Well, they couldn't predict the score. Nobody predicted that right,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: living on their name. Come on, North Carolina's anonymous with
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: NC double a basketball supremicy. Guys, Well they chose.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: Here's the deal. They chose legacy.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, legacy Hubert.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Hubert is a great coach. This is the truth. He's
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: the great which is not?
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, can.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: You know should they have turned it down? I don't.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Should any school turn it down? Turned down a chance
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: to play extra games, turn down a chance to have
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: more highlight reels? Yes, I understand saying they had a
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: losing record, but if some but if the n I
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: T thought they were justified or worthy to get in,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: because they even extended an invitation, why not take it?
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Why not? Why not keep you know, proving your resume,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: prove everybody wrong, go out there and win the whole
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: darn thing. That's why you play the game. You play
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: it to win. Why turn down? But that's just my
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: two cents, all right?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Jacob continue on, Well, Yeah, that's the thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: Bring people, bring it up North Carolina. Like I said,
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: that's a that's a legacy deal. No question. Indiana could
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: about legacy deal also, But you've got to pick the
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: you want to pick the coaches that can coach in
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: that case and has a chance of going a couple
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: of rounds.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Indiana didn't say a chance to go a couple of rounds.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: North Carolina did. That's just the truth with it. Don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: know about West Virginia. They I believe, whether we agree
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: with or not, the controversy or not, the idea of
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: North Carolina is because they with the way that that's
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: the deal was, with the way that that bracket was,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: they have a chance to take a game or two,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: maybe get to a sweet sixteen, and they go out
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: surprise everybody.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: They have the chance.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Indiana sures heck didn't. West Virginia really didn't know. So
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: just being very honest, they picked the legacy and they
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: picked the one with the best chance.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: George, I'll buy that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I'll buy that. I like what Jacob said. I agree
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: that that's a good that's a very good point you made.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: You know again, you're never gonna please everybody. I don't
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: like teams turning things down, but I understand why sometimes
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: they do. But I'm with you, Candy, I mean they should.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: There's so many revenue opportunities and chance to practice and
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: to showcase your kids in front of potential recruits. You know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of advantage. N I T has suffered
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: so much. Heck, they don't even play Madison Square Garden anymore.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: No, you're right, but George, the one thing I was saying,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: is n I T. The idea of the n I
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: T before would have been that's when you recruited full time. Okay,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: like I said, yeah, we had a tough year, but
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: look we got this far.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: We got the n I T.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: Now you where you'll get to the n C Double A.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Now they don't do it anymore.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't, adding to George, they don't play in
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Madison Square Garden, or they don't play at the Wells
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Fargo Center anymore. They used to play at the Wells
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Fargo Center, but now they don't anymore. They used to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: play at Madison Square Garden, they don't any war. Yeah.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Indianapolis, Yeah, which is a great basketball town.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Let's not get ourselves the place in the world to go,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: you serry, Madison Square Gardening Annapolis. Ever heard of that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: movie called Hoosier? So it was a good movie.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Was just on to what George, He's going they're gonna
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: be playing in the same place, at the place Whosia.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Did you know that kind of point?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll tell you what. I agree. They don't
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: turn on opportunity to play in the n I t
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: But I understand why l SU did. There was something
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: really wackier about this tournament. Get this. Saint Francis is
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the twentieth team to make the NTAA Tournament with a
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: losing record, The Red Flash Get this in the NTAA
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Tournament bound for the first time in thirty four year.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Twentieth team in the Anti DOUAA Tournament with a losing record.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Mark's madness one and done. There you go with that, said,
• 31:22
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• 31:25
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  Speaker 1: of the Sports of Change. Katie Gonna like this too bad,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Tanty Dona Furnam. But most losses and ten title history
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: both to Wisconsin. They have six, Ohio State with by,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Illinois with four, Purdue with four. Some thoughts about the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: most losses Big Ten title history.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I defer on this one because that's okay, that's.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: All right, some basketball show. You can defer as often
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: as you want. Andy won't know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: That would be is my question to that would be,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: is how many times have they made it? Like, so, yes,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: you're saying that they've had the most losses, and I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: get it. You know, they're not known for to be
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: a basketball school. They've had some good coaches, they've had
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: some really good teams. Ah, but so that number you're
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: throwing it out there, again, I would have to know
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: how many times they've been there. You know what kind
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: of percentage is it. Did they have six losses out
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: of seven times that they've been there or is it
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: six losses out of twenty times? You know, makes a difference.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: But again, Wisconsin's doesn't draw, doesn't have the historic program
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: that some of the other teams do, especially for basketball
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: in the Big Ten.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, though, I will do
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: something you didn't see coming on the show to their defense.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: So Frank Leminsky told me they did make it to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: back back and CAA finals appearances. So even though I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: didn't tell you that earlier today as we were running
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: all the way around getting a ton of stuff done,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: to the Badger's credit, they did make the most of
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: their talent and did get to two consecutive and Cuba
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Finals appearances. More power to another infesting footnote about a
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: blue blog program that we were actually talking about with
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Kansas Kansas and this is the regular season unranked for
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the first time, it's two thousand. That is an unbelievable
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: number when you really put it on perspective, because when
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you look at the fact that their whole tournament record
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: in the tournament's one seventeen and forty nine, it's unbelievable.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Jacob continue a thought about the most losses history.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Well, you think about Wisconsin. You're talking about that right there.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you this right now, that tells you
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: just how good Bo Ryan was, right, tells you how
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: good Bo Ryan was as a coach. And you want
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: to know what Bo Ryan is, what Bill Snyder was
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: in Kansas State, it's basically the one you're one and
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: only as far as okay, you're like Bill Snyder left,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: came back, left came back. You're expecting Bo Ryan to
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: come back because he's the one that they do anything with.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: So it shows you what that is. But truthfully, I
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: don't worry about any of that because in the way
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: that sports happens right now, like well, I'll just use
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: another example the NFL. Who would have known that when
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: we knew what the the one in fifteen knewing of
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Patriots who knew they'd have a twenty year run. You
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: and everything goes so fast you can't tell, you don'ts
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: It just comes quick. So you don't know if Wisconsin
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: makes a run somewhere down the line, you don't know.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: You don't know. If I mean remembered, you got to remember,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: what was it Butler that almost beat Duke at the
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: buzzer with the mid court a few years ago? I
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: mean Butler, that Butler like a mid major practically, you know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: and they almost took it out with them at the
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: half court. Yeah, I mean that fifteen years. Can you
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: believe it? But I'm saying the thing is, though we
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: used to see things like McNee staked butlers, you see
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: as whatever. We used to see those teams as we
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: used to see those teams as well. Out of the
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: first round we made our money. Now we've had we've
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: seen George Mason, we've seen those teams in the final fourth.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Someone's gonna win it all somewhere down that line. So
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: when we hear about the losingest, who really cares? Because
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: all it takes is one. All takes this one big moment.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: True, go ahead, George.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: Well, twenty twenty four, number five seed Wisconsin Badgers lost
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: to James Madison, number twelve. There's that Christener unfortunate magic
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: working is five and twelve. So Wisconsin last in twenty
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: four loss. Now, in twenty twenty two, they did win
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: their first game against Colgate, which was a fourteen seed
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: and Wisconsin was a three. But the game they lost
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: to eleven seed at Iowa State fifty four to forty nine.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: And I'm just looked at the recent past. I'm not
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: going to go through all these. But then twenty one
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: they won one. In fact, they beat North Carolina and
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: twenty one, but then they lost the next round of Taylor.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: George, good times.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: A lot to be said the last time. I guess
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: it isn't totally surprising. I mean, Wisconsin obviously is an
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: excellent football school, more so than basketball. But they still
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: had some great teams Kamenski, and they had some great coaching,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: you know, So Wisconsin, you know, it's it's a dubious
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: signor of course you don't like to hear about it,
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: but they still play good, good all around basketball.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Well, think about this way. You never know ever ever know.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: And it's like, remember, Wisconsin did make two straight finals.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: But think about this, how many IVY League titles did
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Princeton have? And then Pete Carrill finally gets a win
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: against the defending national champions of all things in a
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: forty three to forty one game on a back door pass.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: You never see anymore? What if? You But yeah, right,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: but what if? This is the thing, especially now, you
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: never know, especially the world's changed so darn much that
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: technologies change. We never know I from make these states,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: not to say they're going to, but we never know
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: ifrom make these state wins at all. Now somewhere down
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: the line.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: It's just it is.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: It's not just blue blood anymore.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: But can I can I add one a couple of
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: little bit tidbits? The last time a Big ten team
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: won the national championship was in two thousand and it
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: was Michigan State. So when you talk about I mean
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: the annual disappointment is not exclusive to the national title game.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: From twenty one to twenty three, twenty six teams represented
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: the Big Ten in the NCAA tournament, but only one
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: advance to reach the Elite eight, and just four reached
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: the sweet sixteen, So Michigan State was the last one
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: to win it. But that was back in two thousand
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: for our conference.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Now they're all grandparents.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, teams, Well, let's not lose tighter. You have more
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: teams in the Big Ten than you did back then,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: and now you added the four Patrol schools and you
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: want you want to know an interesting number when you
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: put this tournament perspective. Hey, listen, Wisconsin's always had a
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: pretty good pro anyway from bo Ryan to guard. Right,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So they've been steady. They're steady and they're consistent. They
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: get there. But here's an unbelievable number that just blows
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: me away that since nineteen eighty five, twenty five hundred
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and forty eighteens have made the Attorney and only nineteen
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: had a losing record, which is zero point seven four percent.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: And what did I just mention they had all those Yeah?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: What nineteen teenth? That's just an unbelievable number. But a
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: lot of that's attributed to the ones that did make
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: it to the conference tournaments.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Is really what it is.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So the question is can you qualify for the conference tournament?
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: That's another story. Well it's not say steady. But at
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the tonight, I'm looking to accumulate any stat that I
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: can get that's interesting, so I'll want everybody to be
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: able to absorb it. What do these stats mean? Knowledge
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: is power?
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: I taint.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I will say that the only time the Badgers
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: won the national championship was back in nineteen.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Forty one, not not too long the way my dad
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: was thirteen years old.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Well, let me have another footnote of that stat that
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I have. Okay, here you go. Zero of the previous
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: nineteen teams have made it out of the first That's
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: how important. So when you talk about all those nineteen teams,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: none of them made it past. So as you're looking
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: through your brackets, any team that has a losing team,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: you're at least able to get to the first round.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: But nobody made it pass the first un off he
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: under five and think Frank Frantz is one game when
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it mattered and dancing for the first time in thirty
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: four years. So figure Okay, let's going to some wins.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Rick Patino most in CAA tournament appearance with different teams
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: all time with six, w Smith five, mon Krueger five,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Steve Alford, Jacob's favorite person just five, and Patino did
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it with Boston University Providence in Tuckie, Louisville iona Saint
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: John's that. If I want to use a Detroit reverence,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: he Detroy Pistons are glad he went back to college
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: because he was a nightmare for them when he played there.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: So let's go back to Preen. Then, well, you're talking
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: about Rick Patino. This guy wherever he goes, he's a win,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and that's why they call him the Godfather.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: If you guys haven't caught on now, I'm a huge
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Duke fan and when he was in the ACC he
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: was the most annoying, well second annoying coach that Duke
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: had of faced because they always shut Duke down, besides
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Royd Williams North Carolina when North when Royd Williams was playing,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: that was you know how that goes. But when those
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: two coaches go at it, he always wins. He always
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: gave Duke fits, he always gives other teams fits. He's
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: just one of those coaches that needs to be up there.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be a Hall of Fame some day.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: That's my that's my take on that thanky.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: He's actually inducted already into the Hall of the Basketball
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. There you go, glaed to Kentucky to
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: the NCAA Championship in ninety six, Louisville in twenty thirteen.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: He was the first coach to lead three different schools, Providence, Kentucky,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: and Louisville to the nc Final Four, and is the
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: only coach to win a national championship at two different schools.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I mean in twenty thirteen, while in Atlanta with his
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: team for the Final Four, he was elected into the
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. He's had his story. Yes,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: he was suspended back in the day as well for
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: and involved recruits. We won't get into that, but look
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: at how much he I mean, he's already in the
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Basketball Hall of Fame. What more do you say like that?
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: That just says a lot right there.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the one thing that's falling a
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: well basketball is a guy who's actually actively coaching get
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: in before his time is up. What do you expect
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the Plaqueaine, But I'll say this and then I'll close
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: him out with Jacob and Georgia. As we moved to
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the broadcast, Rick Patino has been a winner where he's
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: gone except the Boston Celtics, but he did win when
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: he was with the Yorks. Otherwise, He's one of those
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: guys that probably glad that he ended up winning when
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: he was in college. But I think his most impressive act,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: when you look at it, was I own. Everybody wrote
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: him off, and when he took over Saint John's, he
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: made New York City irrelevant. I can Kentucky and Louisville,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You're expected to win Providence. He was starting out, you
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: have a lot of good talent up in New England,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: as he found out what Boston University. When you think
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: of Rick Patino's body of work, you're winning in New
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: England with what Boston University in Providence, and I've actually
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: been to a Providence Friars game at that time. I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: think Rick Barnes was coaching there was unbelievable, and Raleigh
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Masmedo was coaching for Bill and Nova. But you're winning
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Boston University and Providence, you're winning in Kentucky. That's why
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: he likes to go there with Kentucky level and Colls
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: horses Haltses, so he doesn't use the word r.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: A one more point one more point, many of his
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: players and assistant coaches. In total, twenty one of his
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: former players and coaches have become Division one head coaches
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: and successful ones at that. So there's a coaching tree
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: right there too. We talk about it in football. We
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: don't normally talk about it in basketball. But look at
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: his and he's got a seven hundred and eight winning
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: percentage that ranks him eleventh among after coaches and thirty
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: fourth all time among all collegiate basketball coaches.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: All he doesn't turn programs around and get back by a.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Point one in I own and if he think goes
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the NBA, his his numbers, his wins will go a
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: lot more.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Well, there's no question about that. Then you're getting a
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: nail time winning. Then we don't have time to get
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: into that where we'll point I will point out also
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: some good numbers suit candy when you put Patino's record
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: in their perspective, wherever he goes, he wins. But it's
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: not on the side of the fact that he's also
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: left programs in a scandal as well, which is why
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: he lost his dig at Louisville and Michigan fas Louisville
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and ended up losing to a guy that subsequently had
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the title strip. Not gonna get into that. Can't say
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: anything bad about him in Saint John's. He's made basketball
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: relevant in the Big Apple, all right, Jacob.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Before I go into Patino, let me bring up, speaking
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: of what you're saying, the Godfather Massimino. I love coaches
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: that looked like the mob guys are gonna get stucked
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: in the truck and shot like three quarters of the
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: way through a good fella's movie. I mean stuff like
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: that that He Massimino and ray Meyer looked exactly like that.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: So let me say this about Patino. I don't hate
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: him as a He's an all time great personally as
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: a coach, you can learn everything from him. He is
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: the defense guy. To this day where people hate defense,
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: he's a defense guy.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: So I can take to that.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: This is where my problem with the Patino deal is
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: right now. I absolutely this is where I despise media,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: especially legacy media, ESPN and everybody. Media obliterated, destroyed, gave up,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: and buried Patino. I mean hate, pure hate on the guy.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: And now they expect us to forget this to make
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: a hero so they can do the same to Dan
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Hurley who has two straight national titles. Right, no, no,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: uh uh, I want The only reason I would ever
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: want to go to ESPN is for the I mens
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: before I got fired to tell everybody the STFU every time,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: because I'm sick and tired of the recency, biased garbage
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: that media does.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Want.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: I want to be able to have the one time
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: in my life to go on in ESPN and remind
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: them that they buried and destroyed this guy because they
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: don't bring that up. They don't bring any of that up.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: They're just burying, trying to bury and destroy Dan Hurley
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: right now, just be and you want to know why,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: because it's all feelings. He's a little tough on the players,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: so it's feelings. They thought they're thinking of the feelings, anxiety,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: all that bus. The thing about Patinos is an all
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: time great but no, not yet. But the thing about
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: it is when they lose probably sweet sixteen, I'm going
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: to say that when they lose that, then I mean,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: are them You're gonna get ten thousand columns saying was
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: he overrated? Is he overrated?
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Did we?
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: Were we wrong?
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: No?
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Because he's good, he's good at what he does. Now
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: the next year. Could he get Farth. Absolutely they could
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: even go all that way, but not yet. And I'm
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: putting a bet down on everything that if Yukon and
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Saint John's face against each other in the tournament, I
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: think Yukon wins it. I don't care what happened to
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: this season. It's a different ball of wax in that tournament,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: and he's not been there in a while. Curly has.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Georgia thought.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Rick Patino has coached thirty players who were drafted or
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: have played in the NBA across as five collegiate coaching stops,
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: and we already mentioned that. It's Boston University, Providence, Kentucky, Louisville,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: and Iona and of course now Saint John's thirty players,
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: including Derek Anderson, Antwine Walker, Tony Delk and Jamal Mashburn.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: You know, on the surface, you could say, well he
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: should have won more, you know, but you get into
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: this very subjective discussion on that tom Izzo should have
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: won more. Okay, you can go down the list for
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: a bunch of guys. Bob Knight, would you say one,
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: two or three he could have won more. I think
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: Rick Pattino is a good man. I do. And I
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: know he's making a hell of a lot of money,
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: but let's not kid ourselves. He deserves it and if
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: the market bears then yeah, he should be making a
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: lot of money. He is a really good guy comedian
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: named Jimmy Kimmel, not Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy and the Tonight
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: Show fallon. He had a skit. He had a skit
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: a week or two ago and he had the starting
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: lineup of Saint John's come into the studio. It was hilarious.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: Benyviews want to go back and watch that. And then
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: he had Patino on too. It's just a really well
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: put thing, a lot of fun. They had his team.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: They're lose. Hey, who knows how far they could go
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Saint John's, Hey, we'll see how far they could go.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: But Patino class act in my opinion.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to Tank pranceis
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: for a quick just a little up take there. Last
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: night in the first four they did lose, by the way,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Alabama State seventy sixty eight. So there's march fans, so
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: they can have that record about lousy t for throwing.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I watched out for Rick Patino. His team play defense
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: that gives him a punter's chance. They made up score
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: a lot, but I'll tell you if they played that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: trap defense like they do in that full court press,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: teams are going to be very dangerous and get very nervous.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: But in the end, wherever he wins Egos, I do
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: want to make reference. So when you talk about college
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fames, one guy, I know I'm changing the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: sport a little bit because he's a turnaround a program builder.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: With Howard Snoldenberger. Why he's not in will always mind
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: boggle me because he took programs that were bad and
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: built them from the ground up. But they have to
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: have a six hundred winning percentage. Howard different hid at it.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's why the Hall of Fame and on
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: that level was a little bit flawed and that stout,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: but I won't get into that.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Great to me, sellen Berger is exactly what I would
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: want to be as a coach, turn everything around. That
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: He's kind of the favorite type coach I have.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Well, Howard Stellenberger was a father figure to me. I
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: worked with a guy for many years. Hating back to
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: my days of the years say in Miami and FAU.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Then we saw that program build for what it is.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be covering Florida Atlantic University football. It wasn't
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: for Howard Stahlmberger. And my first opportunity to cover college
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: forts was attributed to Howard Snellenberger when I was a
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes. Even George Benham when we were over what
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: was the to Motor City bull right when ford Field right,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Ford Field? When FAU ended up topping Central Michigan. So
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Howard Schallenberger, shame, shame, shame is com bays not in there.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: So Katie and I way, we were joking around this
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: in the car earlier, and I had fun with the
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: matchup in the Big Ten tournament. I told her and
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Michigan is gonna beat Maryland and Wisconsin was gonna be
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Michigan State.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I was right.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: She didn't have prop with that part. The problem she
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: had was when I predicted Michigan to beat Wisconsin, how
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: did that work out? I got the last last there.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: She didn't have with that part. So we're gonna lead
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: off with Candy, didn't I tell you at the hotel?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: And for a miners that was gonna happen.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you did.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got I got the wrong end of a
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: lot of Lions, Packers things. But at least that was
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the one way Michigan was gonna win the Big Ten tournament.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: That they had to do it to the tournament, the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Michigan State had their number all year, and yet those
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: two teams could face each other, you know, and see
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and c w a men's practice. So anything as you
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: want to say about that weekend that we talked about
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: that final work.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Candy, Nope, but that's why they play the game. You
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: never know who's gonna winkethan.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: You want to defer on this one too.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: The only thing I got to say is that somebody
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: comment on Sunday I did selection Sunday. If you guys
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: didn't watch it, go back and watch it. They I
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: did that, and they somebody said that they everybody's happy
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: that they got rid of the dumpster fire Jan Howard.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: How they got rid of him and got mailed. That's
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: where they're happy. So it was a well fought game.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: It was back and forth, but Michigan just pulled out
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: to the end. So it was a good game with
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: forty minutes of basketball. So that's why I got on that.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: Okay, you're talking about you mumbled there, it kind of
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: fumbled there. Say that one more time.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: The final four Michigan.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Champions Oh yeah, that one.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Let's see Michigan ended upon.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: Michigan stayed at the last minute. They blocked a shot
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I think it was, and then Michigan beat their team.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: And so then Michigan played Wisconsin in the Big Ten
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Championship and they beat Wisconsin by like six or eight
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: I think it was six towards the end. They pulled
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: towards the end.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: But with Felship, well, I hadn't seen a lot of
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten tournaments, so I was trying to think
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: when I was.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Let's see and.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: Scott, just so you know that, yes, Michigan could see Wisconsin,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: but it would be in the Elite eight. Michigan could
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: see Michigan State before because they're not in the same region.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: Something till I will say this though, something tells me
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: if we see it a Wisconsin Michigan game or Michigan
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Michigan State's always high scoring, it just dips Wisconsin and Michigan.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Something tells me it's to be like fifty to forty
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: nine either way. It just there's just something about those
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: There's just something about those games. You know, maybe it's
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: just Wisconsin deal. It's like facing Princeton, like I was
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: bringing up earlier. You're just it's gonna be you're just
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: getting ready for a low scoring game. Or the old
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Bob Knights with the triangle offense. You know, he's fifty
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: three points. Maybe that's just what that is. But Michigan,
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Michigan State could probably go to one hundred. It just
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: could maybe at overtime. So you can never tell, George.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, you're never gonna let me tell you.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: You know, Michigan has disappointed their fans, trust me, many
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: many times in that tournament. This was one of the
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: rare opportunity they got to shine and they took advantage
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: of it. And again, Dusty made did an incredible job
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: coaching this team. He did an incredible job recruiting these
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: kids to come over. Albeit some of them maybe over
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: only just one year, one season, but they played their
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: butts off. They did have a slumpish year. I'm not
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: gonna deny it. They were going strong, but Izzo had
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: just a strong team in fact, Stroger and it was
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: just a fun thing and to be in the state
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: of Michigan. I'm telling you guys this, this winner was
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: just a lot of fun to see both these teams win.
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: It doesn't happen very often. And you know, you don't
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: have games, you don't have magic, or you don't have
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: Drymond Green, or you don't have Phil Hubbard. I mean,
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: I'm going back in history, but I mean, you know,
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: these guys were put together on these teams. A lot
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: of people didn't even know who were they, who are
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: these kids because of the portal and what we're seeing happened.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: But it was a fun winter slash spring. Now we'll
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: see what happens. But I congratulate you Scott for picking.
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have probably picked Michigan to win against Wisconsin,
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: but they did. And hey, you know so Michigan State
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: well the regulars. He's a big ten and Michigan wins
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: the tournament big ten. You can't beat that, man, if
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: you're living in the Great Lakes State.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I just think it's a good look for May. It's
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: not about Michigan beating West. Kind of a steading program.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: They always make it there. When you talk about me
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: years in a row, that they've been to the NCAA
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: terms incredible coaching. That's when Greg Guard called Ryan and
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: some believeball Michigan was the only one eight game and
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: now they they're back in term of twenty five wins.
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: That's yeah, they have a real coach.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, exactly. Well, Hey, I love working with Todd.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: He was great.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one thing. I tell you when
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I worked with John Jackets first time, the guy's gonna
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: do some pretty good things over Port Atlantic. He really will.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: There's a guy that when they brought back three seniors
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: and this program is predominantly international players. The fact that
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: they made the NI t maybe some of those other
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: teams turned them down. At FAU got in the tournament.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: They hold it a game out bit, they Watson and
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I think it will be all right. But Michigan is
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: a story of the year. Knowing how bad that they
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: were a year ago at eight wins, that's the thing
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: to see that's wrong now obviously, And I out well.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: Think of it this way about Dusty May. Maybe he
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: can't throw a right hook like Juwan Howard by at
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: least coach. But the but, but the big thing about
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: one of the biggest things that I say with this
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: is as long as Dusty May does not become Bill
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: Frieder and say I'm gonna go to Arizona State and
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: go get a different coach in there. Well as he
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: doesn't do that, He's got a nice career going at Michigan.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: He can do that.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: And I don't I know, it's good.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I got one thing I'm gonna elaborate what Jacobs said too.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: He said that Michigan and Michigan State have high scoring
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: games even in college football, that sk scores are big too. No,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is with those those games
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: that they're always high scoring. But even in football that
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: scores are big, they're always. It's just it's crazy. It's
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: like thirty five, thirty thirty four to thirty one. It's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: like it's that high scoring no matter what sport it is.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: These two teams hate each other. They deck it out
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: each other.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but you know, Jacob, here's the thing. It's
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: amazing how you bring up to Phil Frieder's situation. He
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: goes to Arizona State and Steet Fisher one and all
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. Yeah, and I remember that when both Shambeckler says,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: you know, what, I'll give you the first interview for
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: the job. We all both sham Beckler, right, George, that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: was the most interesting way of giving a man an interview.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: George Dyker, you let me know what.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: Is well, both sham Beckler, one great coach with terrible
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: and Bowl games.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: All right, I want a Michigan man coaching my team,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: he said. Steve Fisher was the man Bowl would not
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: allow Bill Freeder carry on after saying he was leaving
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: this leaving the program. That was great. I'll never forget that.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Scott.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: That was a great, great bit of history there with
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: Bowen Well.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: I actually have to give the assistant Jacob Chrisler for
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: bringing up Freeder in the birthplace. And all Jacob did
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: was leave me into that. So I'll give them. I'll
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: give them. I'll give the credits to the spark plug here.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: I was eleven years old when that. I still remember.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: I absorb everything.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: There with the chart. I don't want to hear it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Just quick quot while your ahead and give it you credit.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Don't don't really teriously really don't do it. Don't do it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: I'm complimenting you. Can you handle Okay, good quick while
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: your head because I'm gonna have to compliment you again,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: and it's painful, but I'll do it anyway. Everybody talked
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: about the college foot fans all Crown. Sixteen teams are
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: in it Fox Tournament. We don't know about it. We
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: know about Ohio State and all that. KNTY certainly did
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: a good jobside and I like myself about it. Let's
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: get it all straight.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: The sixteen teams that are in it. There's other state,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Boise State of course, at the Arizona State, Oh my goodness,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Jacob Arizona State there and there under Bobby Hurley, Boise State,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: Butler he goo Field House. Of course. That's how you
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: think the n T can the head. Oh no, you're
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: actually talk about the Night Champce. It doesn't matter. Cincinnati,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Colorado Deep Paul my goodness up at the Paul Blue
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: even they even made it there. Well, I'll let's talk
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: about that in a minute. Georgetown the Braston in an
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: interesting football note about Nebraska, thinking about you, guys and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: officers are headed to Vegas and here's why, because of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the Fox connections had a decent enough record and they
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: are going to go to Vegas because of the fox
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: thing and the big tent. So yeah, there's a beneficiary
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: of candy about the Brasta going to Vegas because of
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the Fox thing. Albeit Ohio State wasn't healthy enough to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: go to the NIP, but they would have gone to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the ncfway. They would have found a way to get
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: to the NT right, that's for sure. But the brands
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: has gone right, Jacob, uh, let me keep going with
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: this group because it it's even more and more interesting.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: So we have so we'll be over the teams again.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: So I don't get off of because I'm getting excited
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: about this one because they got another tournament which will
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: probably put how It's Basketball Editasia out of business. This
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: one'll put that one out of business in this one.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to go over the list again. Arizona State,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Boise State, Butler, Cincinnati, Colorado, De Paul, Georgetown, a Branta,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Oregon State, Tulane, you see, Washington State, Utah, Villanova, USC Tulane, Greenway.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: And of course this tournament will take pace from March
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Surry first to April sixth. How about that Villanova Jay Wright?
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Remember he not wants to do that tour, So all right,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: let's go around on horror. What do you guys think
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: about the inaugural college basketball Crown?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: Well, I can I can bring this part. They did Villanova,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: they've got themselves an interim coach right now. They's lost theirs.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: They but they just lost their guys, so I mean
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: after four years. So I mean, I mean his name
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: is Neptune or Jupiters, you know, I forget his name
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: for a second. But hearing Georgetown in that, that's big
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: for them in truth, because they have been absolutely miserable
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: the past few years. Patrick Ewing, John Thompson and John
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: Thompson the third, any of those, they've been horrible. So
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: to make any tournament at all is nothing but help.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: That's nothing but momentum. Regardless of what they do there,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: it's good for them. I'm happy for Georgetown because they've
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: needed this, it's been a while. As far as Villanova,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: I would have hated to take that job after Jay Wright.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, the guy had one year, I believe Fordham
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: something along those lines. I believe them he had won year,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: name was a five hundred record and he took over
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: for a legend like Jay Wright. I would have hated that.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: So I mean, they've been pretty bad. It's been pretty bad.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: So I'm glad that there's some kind of tournament. But
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: who takes their place next? Who takes that job next?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: You know, at least, well, here's the thing, the fall
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: the lad I forget the guy's name, but the fall
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: guy is gone, so they don't have to worry about
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: taking Jay Wright spot. That's the biggest deal. So, I mean,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: there's some night, there's some good. There's some teams in there.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: That is DePaul. They've been horrible, miserable for years and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: years and years. Good to see them around, So I
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: mean there's changes and I'd like to see it again.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you How do you feel about DePaul
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: making this particular tournament. I'm happy for DePaul. I believe
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: a private university, if I understand correctly, I'm of Chicago
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: a great tradition. You talked about Ray Meyer Joey Meyer
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: for a while, but especially ray Meyer. How many people
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: weren't excited when he made it to this final form
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: back in the day. I know you're growing up in
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: that part of the country. Is last.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: Joey Meyer's last year was like three wins. That was
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: his last year, and then they've been. They've averaged between
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: three and eight wins since for so long, and that
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: was ninety seven, So I mean, this is even work.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: See Villanova, at least they won two national titles with Wright,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: at least been with him. But it's just been a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: little bit. They just had to dig with a worst coach.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: Georgetown's had theirs, but at least they've got their record.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: We're looking this is twenty eight years now. I mean
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: since I mean, like I said, Joey Joey Meyer had
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: some good times, but his last year was three wins
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: and then ever since that has just been normal. So
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: them being in a tournament like this, that's wonderful for
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: their I mean, I think they got them themselves a
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: new ad finally. That other av was ridiculous, So it's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're they there's some looking up at DePaul.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I like that for him. Great stuff. Yeah. Out when
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I saw this there, I thought about you and DePaul,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and that's why I highlighted and think because I wanted
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: you to give an opportunity to get to Paul, a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: chance to plug him. And I remember when I was
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: telling jb Ellis last year, if you can find a
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: way to get on their immediate distribution lift for Sideline Sports.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: Do it.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's done it yet or not.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: He's been busy with that network, but that would be
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: a good media distribution lift for and beget on so
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: that way JB could cover some basketball games. Gets the
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: opportunity to tell it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. And by the way, I wanted to
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: bring something up with de Paul. I was looking this.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: I looked up Ray Meyers record the other kids, like
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: seven hundred and twenty six wins. I was looking this up.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: This tells you he's been a two final fours. He's
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: won so many games, yet between the NCAA and n
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: IT he lost nine first round games. So it shows
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: even the very best have these issues. It the very
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: best can happen. So it's like it is a It's
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: a flip of a coin.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: That's ay.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you're players. Sometimes you have the perfect dumb plays
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: and they and the ball then foots around, goes out.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: That's what happened. Sometimes sometimes you just you get all
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: the way to the final four. It's just what happened.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Sometimes, all right, George, I then you've been waiting patiently
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: for a long time throughout the show. But well.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: Topic the Crown Tournaments. Yeah, the first year postseason tournament
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: taking place March thirty one to April sixth in Las Vegas.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: All games will be on Fox or FS one. And
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: uh you already read the names. But the seven conferences
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: involved the Big Twelve, the Big East, the Big Ten,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 5: the WCC, the Mountain West, the eight ten, and the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: A A C. So the field is all set. I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: think it's a good opportunity. And I agree this is
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: just putting another another dagger in the in the back
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: of the n T But yeah, you got some great programs,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: There's no question about it. He talked about Georgetown Hoyas.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know seventeen and fifteen, their record this
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: year which was about five hundred, Washington State nineteen and fourteen,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: and the Boise State was twenty four and ten. They
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: had a great year. They didn't make the NCAA, but
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: you know, George Washington the twenty one to twelve. I
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: think what you got here as an opportunity, again we
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: talked about it earlier, is to showcase your program, make
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: a few extra bucks for the athletic department. Hopefully you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 5: get some fans and alumni with a big city, Las
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Vegas as the lore to come out and see the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: boys play and and you know everybody, hopefully we'll go
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: home happy. You know, you got a big spot, you
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: got a big you got big Fox right behind you.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: Man doesn't get much better than that Fox and FS one.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to it, Scott. I think it'll
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: be some good basketball.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Candy, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a detractor. Let's face it,
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  Speaker 3: we already have the NC two A, and we have
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  Speaker 3: the March Madness with them, and now you've got NIT,
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  Speaker 3: and now you've got another different tournament, and you're I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 3: it's a way to showcase talent, but it also is
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: a detractor because now you've got three different champions for
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: three different you know venues. It's a way for Fox
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: to make money because Fox didn't get the NC two
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: A or the NIT. It's a way for Las Vegas
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: to get money because obviously that it's a new tournament
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: there and they can. So it's it's coming down and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: it all boils down to let's face it, sports is
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: money and basketball, college basketball this time of year, it's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: all about the almighty dollar and in order to afford
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: to pay nil money, they need to make money. So
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  Speaker 3: it's just another tournament to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Canny, where's the respective? Fine, So we're let's let's go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: You're a crack research. I already know, but tell me anyways,
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  Speaker 1: where's the men's final four being held?
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  Speaker 3: Men's final four? Honestly, I do not know the answer
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  Speaker 3: to that question.
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  Speaker 1: I know the womens, Yeah, we know the women's. You
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  Speaker 1: and I are going.
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  Speaker 3: That's Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Can I phone a friend, George? Where's the final four?
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  Speaker 1: San Antonio and Antonio? Oh that goodness?
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  Speaker 4: Where they double where they double fit?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: I'm san Antonio, you got san Antonio, you got Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 1: and you have Vegas. We'll all crown champions where the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: buffalo and the money will roam, you think, mister Pevenant.
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  Speaker 2: It's good, like George said, But Jacob said, it's a
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  Speaker 2: good chance for all the schools. Philadova. They they had
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: a bad year. Georgetown's been bad ever since Iris had left,
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  Speaker 2: so in private, before Iris it was bad. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: just glad that these schools that had a bad year
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  Speaker 2: have a second chance. And like Candy said, it's good
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  Speaker 2: that it's probably for money, but it's more if you
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  Speaker 2: guys like basketball, it's more besket both after the tournament,
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  Speaker 2: so why not the.
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  Speaker 1: Only thing else stay to close off the topic, I'm
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: happy for NBA and pro scouts around the world. It's
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: another opportunity to scout players in three different settings, Vegas,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: San Antonio, and Indianapolis. And the only thing I even
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: like about the Bowl games, even though there's way too
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: many of them in the first place. More so Bowl
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: games and this particular type of tournament as these kids
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: get more to get to be seen on tape one more,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: two more times traditional and that's how they're able to elevate.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Forget this nil business or transfer for well, if you
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: want to make the real money, it's in the pros.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I realized that some of this nil money is so
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: long and good they'll hold you down for a while.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're too young enough to understand how to spend
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: it in the first place. It doesn't matter. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: talking about that. But it's an opportunity to get on films.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what was so fun about the MotorCity Madmouth
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  Speaker 1: show that I had the United foot Fall League on
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: there and when I was that show as popular as
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: it was because there's a stepping from the NFL way
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: better in the Canadian Football League. You know, a lot
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: of the other spree league went down the toilet, right,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: But in the UFL player to say, and what does
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: it have in timon with the basketball crown. It's on Fox.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: There's some money, say held all some full circle everybody.
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  Speaker 1: That's where it's all at. Interesting month. When am I
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: going to start paying attention to the women's tournament? Well
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: probably when now during me ironic five to twelve matchup
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: when US takes on Tennessee. Of course I have to
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: root for USF even though they're the twelve and Tennessee
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: the five. And I always thought Tennessee was known for
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: past summit. But I'm not torm because I'm a bull
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  Speaker 1: for all those you know Tampa, that's no bull, no bull.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: I even I even have a chain with the bull
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  Speaker 1: on it. But that's actually put away in my fire
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  Speaker 1: safe with Kendy because that gold probably worth a lot
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: of money nowadays. Kenny is going to get it anyway.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I just trailed for the microphone instead.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you this, being a Tennessee woman's coach that's
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: the rarity and the fact that you are under the
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: past summit's history forever because she made the sport, not
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: just the school. So that would be the toughest job
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  Speaker 4: to take.
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  Speaker 1: I swear Tiberuski, thanks for tuning, and yes we got
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: your dog check by the way, Sabrusi and I don't
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: know what that is. And yet he knows that Jacob
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: chris Er back. Those guys that certainly mellowed and behaved
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: a lot more lately, they're not as bad as they
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: were before. Thankfully, of course, you know, Jacob was better
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: than ever. All they needed was a little timeouts to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: be compressed a little bit, and that's what we have here.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: And now we're doing some on the So go back
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  Speaker 1: to the did you know? We'll get one more topic
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: and I'll probably have an opportunity that Jacob ran on this,
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  Speaker 1: because this is what worth we're ranting about. And I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: talked about this earlier, So we did. Do you know
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: sixteen teams two and one fifty verses the number one
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: sin Saint five? How about that though in the University
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: of Maryland in Baltimore County to bed what Virginia. And
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: then of course we talked about fairly Dickinson University defeating Purdue.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: What do I remember about the Maryland game? We got
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I got Little Caesar's pizza. Oh that was great, unbelievable,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: did you know, don't even have to comment. We've talked
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: about that. But final topic of the night. Let somebody
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: had the party shot about the NCAA tournament? Did all
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: all of them? Tonight? Miami RedHawks were snubbed from the
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  Speaker 1: nid We're talking about teams that didn't want to go,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: but they were snub from the n i T tournament
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: in favor of a team that he went three to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: zero against the season, Kent State Miami was fourteen and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: four the min American And what do we have here?
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: We have KSU and it's eleven and seven and finished third.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: What do you think in that one's kick?
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  Speaker 4: Being snubbed from the n T is kind of like
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: when you're playing three on three in gym and they
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: decide not to take you in the final one and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: just play three on two instead. You know, That's that's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: what that's that's a reminder reminder of that is it's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: that's completely unfortunate, but it always But the thing is,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: I'm shocked they didn't go to the invitational tournament because
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: they were picked, you know what I mean, maybe they
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: called all those teams before. But it's like, if you
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: if you are, that just tells you where your program
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: really is. If you're getting snubbed from the n I
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: T means you wanted to go. It means that you
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  Speaker 4: don't feel like that you have your chance in the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: big tournament, the big time, so you wanted to be there.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: And then you're mad, and it's like it just means
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: that you that your program needs a little bit of
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: a change.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Well, anything else you want to add to it? You
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: want to rant?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: Or do you know that my will come with my
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: final word?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: All right, George, you want to add to this one too?
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm all set. I'll pass on that one, Scott.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say about it is Miami. I
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: know you're upset. All I had to do is when
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: you're a conference tournament, you'd have been in andy Head
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: then the fir Okay, there you go. Take I've got
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: a final word on this. Sorry. Everybody gets a parting shot.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: And I don't care what sport you're in, alic or not.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Everybody should attended lead off.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: North Carolina surprised me. They I thought they were, and
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: I said it on Sunday that I didn't think they
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: will be on the big the March Madness. They proved
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: me wrong. I admit when I'm wrong, but I congratulations
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: North Carolina. You're you proved me wrong by getting into
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: the tournament. So that's my partying shot. I was wrong,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: North Carolina, you deserve.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Hey, Candy, I'm gonna switch up, uh switched kind of
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: topics because this is the Sports Exchange. Listen to these stats.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: Babe Ruth one hundred and fifty nine home runs in
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: his first six hundred and seventy four career games. One
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: loss was thirty five to eighteen in his first four
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five career innings pitched. Sho He Otani
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty home runs in his first six
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy four games. Win loss was thirty five
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: and nineteen in his first four hundred and fifty five
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  Speaker 3: innings career innings pitched. People are gonna start really comparing
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  Speaker 3: Shohey to Babe Ruth.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I never thought we'd see another somebody that would have
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: some of the same stats as babe.
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  Speaker 1: Ruth, all right, you take up, You're up for all.
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  Speaker 4: We are in the NFL, the draft coming up, and
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring this. But we have this whole deal
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 4: where Aaron Rodgers is holding teams hostage. Okay, usual, we
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: know this. He just said in Minnesota. No, I'm gonna
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: give one here because the world already knows how much
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: I hate kevib Williams with an absolute pepick of passion,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: Aaron one year Chicago here, not kidding, not saying you're
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: gonna be, not saying that you are gonna be the difference,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: not saying anything I did. I don't want you much
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: farther than the one maybe two years. I don't even
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: want that part because I know you are a jerk,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: but I want Caleb Williams out. I did that was
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: I am tired of the Bears making the wrong decision
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: at quarterback, and when they do make the right decision,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: the Bears fans whine. Everybody's heard that thing, neither here
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: nor there. The Bears. The reason I say this is
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: the way that they've gotten. The draft is coming, and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: the way that they've gotten with the offensive line that
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: probably a quarterback away that's not Caleb Williams.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: It is not.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna mess things up, and then that can hurt,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: especially when everybody is on free agency and then everybody's
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: there you could have. You just get everybody right, you
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: can start building it up. So yeah, I can hope
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: against hope. There is not gonna be an Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: He doesn't think about it. He'll go to Pittsburgh or
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: he'll retire before he thinks of the Chicago. But I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: don't even care just one year. I don't care to
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: let the Bears go back to the draft and start over.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, dors, that's your final shot.
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  Speaker 5: My final shot is the three upsets.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: I got.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 5: Colorado State over Colorado State. Who they play in Memphis?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 5: Colorado State over Memphis. Does I have Drake over the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: Texas No, I'm confused. Let me go with my final
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: four instead, Maryland, Houston, Duke, and Auburn with Duke to
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: win it all. There you go, that's my hand.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll go back on what I said earlier. I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see Bruce Pearl win it all, but the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: perception there's reality. I'm going with the Florida Gators, who
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: win the whole thing. I'll get into the women probably
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: a little more next week as I get closer. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: I'll say about the women's tournament right now is I
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  Speaker 1: probably won't watch it until I know what the final
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: sixteen are. I've never really been that deep into the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: tournament to know who's doing what. I do know that
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: somebody once told me that the women's tournament doesn't get
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: interesting until you hit the final sixteen. Anyway, because unlike
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: the NCAA men's tournament, there's not as much parody in
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the women's game as there is on the men's side.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll be able to make the judgment. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go Florida winning it all with Bruce Spurrel,
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  Speaker 1: who's like Jerry Turcain, and he's a rebel. He doesn't
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: like the NCAA tournament. And once upon a time I
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: did meet Jerry Turcaan in or the Palace of Auburn Hills,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: but he was cooking to San Antonio Spurs and he
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: loved the Palace of Auburn Hills, and I do, mister
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Palace of Auburn Hills. Scott to.
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  Speaker 3: Exclamation point yours, the number one seed has won the
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: Women's Tournament twenty three times since nineteen ninety four.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: There you go, you didn't know what you want. We'll
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  Speaker 1: do more winsmen probably next week on the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: The women's The women's game to me gets more interesting
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: when Juju Watkins gets to the NBA, because that's gonna
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: be Juju Watkins and Kinglin. Kar's gonna be the real drivalry,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: not she and Angel because they have the same game.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: I'll just say send a special shout out to Brian
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Seagress communications got your cellth Florda without Brian Seagrest and
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  Speaker 1: and I aren't going that's my on a matter of
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the toasting that final four, and I'm looking forward to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: the challenge of covering the ladies game, maybe a year
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: late from Caitlin Clark, but Juju walk into certainly somebody
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: that interesting. Well take the same game.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I'll be a rivalry because they because Angel
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: and Caitlan are nothing alike, they're just what It's just
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: what they were what the media wanted to build as
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: a rivalry. Caitlyn and Juju have the same game, so
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: that's going to become rivalries.
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  Speaker 1: What you watch, Oh sure, I would like to. My
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  Speaker 1: only big thing there is I just hope to get
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: a question. It was Gino Orima.
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  Speaker 4: Over hurt.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: Had a chance to meet John Wood and went on
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Gino Orima. That that concludes this edition of the Sports Exchange.
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  Speaker 1: We'll let everybody go around the horn and everybody know
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  Speaker 1: how they get a hold of you. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: All right, go ahead, and Jacob, we'll be merging by
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  Speaker 1: So well, look forward to seen your stuff on sethboards
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  Speaker 1: You all right, George? Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Back to you, Scott, Well, a couple of new wrinkles
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  Speaker 1: I love it great so but but anyways, ed battery
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  Speaker 1: this wraps it up here, Penman, Jacob, Candy, George, have
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