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Kiss the Squid · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large nor Drunk Glider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the ginkie things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Ariel casting, and with me as always
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  Speaker 1: is Jonathan blush Upon a star streaming. I do the
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  Speaker 1: rock myself, You do the rock. Yeah. I've decided I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing a new thing where I'm throwing in random song
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  Speaker 1: lyrics at the beginning of episodes. Oh, because either that
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  Speaker 1: was very inappropriate or like, it's you leave the role
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  Speaker 1: to somebody else. No, No, it's uh, it predates. It
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  Speaker 1: predates Dwayne the Rock Johnson. That songs from our our
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  Speaker 1: friend of the show, Friend of the Show, Tim Curry.
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  Speaker 1: H wait is he a friend of the show. If
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  Speaker 1: I say it enough times, Abe, it'll be true. Friend
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  Speaker 1: of the Show, Tim Curry, Friend of the Show, Tim Curry. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, how are you, Ariel? I'm good. I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: a little sleepy today. I did not get much sleep.
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  Speaker 1: So um, either this will be a very like sinc
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  Speaker 1: and Curt episode or is going to be bonkers. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know which everyone, and I'm sorry either way, I
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  Speaker 1: feel you. I got sleep, but I had like stressed
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  Speaker 1: dreams and nightmares all night, and I want to say
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  Speaker 1: they were brought on by a pair of choices I
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  Speaker 1: made that together were bad choices. One was that I
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  Speaker 1: gave into cravings and had some chicken nachos and I
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of case so on them, and he
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  Speaker 1: had very delicious but very rich, and I haven't been
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  Speaker 1: eating a lot of rich food recently. And bad choice
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  Speaker 1: number two was before I went to bed, I watched
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  Speaker 1: like two and a half episodes of the Boys, and
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  Speaker 1: that show ratchets up my anxiety so much that I
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  Speaker 1: think that that combination of rich food and anxiety provoking
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  Speaker 1: entertainment led me to some very bad dreams. Back back
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  Speaker 1: when I was watching The Boys, I would always have
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  Speaker 1: to watch something else afterwards, just because, yeah, it made
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  Speaker 1: me feel so bad. Yeah it was. It was too
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  Speaker 1: late for me to watch anything else. It was already
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  Speaker 1: eleven PM, and I was like, oh, no, I have
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  Speaker 1: made mistakes. See, and here I thought you were just
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  Speaker 1: getting ready for the spooky season a little early, because
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  Speaker 1: we're halfway through September and I know many of our
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  Speaker 1: friends are already gearing up for Halloween. Now we'll be
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  Speaker 1: doing some Halloween decorating this weekend actually, so we are
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  Speaker 1: starting to lean in that direction, and we will have
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of Halloween material in this episode. But
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to start off talking about something that we
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  Speaker 1: mentioned last week. You know, when we published our episode
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  Speaker 1: last Friday, it was technically the first day of d
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  Speaker 1: which is Disney's big fan expo, but all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that everyone really cares about was announced on Saturday and Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: Um that being like Marvel, Star Wars and Parks information
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  Speaker 1: like those were the big things that got revealed over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend, and obviously we couldn't report on them then
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  Speaker 1: because they hadn't happened yet. But all those announcements and
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  Speaker 1: stuff have happened now, so we're gonna chat about some
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  Speaker 1: of that and some of the material that came out
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  Speaker 1: of the twenty three. Yeah, and there's a lot of it,
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  Speaker 1: so we're just gonna kind of scatter shot through it. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The first of which is we got trailers for a
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  Speaker 1: hocus Pocus to which we have known is coming out
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  Speaker 1: for a while. I'm sure that's a real sentence. I
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  Speaker 1: just said. Um, And the trailer for Disenchanted, which is
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  Speaker 1: a sequel to Enchanted, which if you're not familiar because
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  Speaker 1: came about a while ago. At this point, Amy Adams
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  Speaker 1: is a princess, a Disney classic Disney cartoon princess who
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  Speaker 1: gets sucked into the real world and falls in love.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like a Roger Rabbit Disney princess story essentially. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's playing on the jokes of the various
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  Speaker 1: tropes in Disney Princess movies in particular, and what would
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  Speaker 1: happen if one of those idealized cartoonish characters were pulled
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  Speaker 1: into the cynical world of modern day New York City.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, they had a lot of fun with it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I actually had not seen Enchanted until I
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  Speaker 1: think last year, and like you said, it had been
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  Speaker 1: out for a while, and I had it on DVD,
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  Speaker 1: like I owned a copy. I just hadn't sat down
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  Speaker 1: and watched it. And then one day out of the
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  Speaker 1: blue last year I finally watched it. And it really
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  Speaker 1: is a funny movie if you are the type of
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  Speaker 1: person who's tired of Disney kind of doing meta commentary
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  Speaker 1: about itself almost in a way to kind of excuse
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  Speaker 1: the various tropes that they've created. I wouldn't recommend Enchanted
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  Speaker 1: because it definitely goes down that path. It does, but
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of fun. I still enjoy it,
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  Speaker 1: and Disenchanted is kind of the future life of that
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  Speaker 1: princess after her Happily ever after, which you know, cynical
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  Speaker 1: world is not so happy after all, or at least
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  Speaker 1: she's discontent. Both trailers looked okay to me. I am
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  Speaker 1: definitely more and both both things we've known about for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. So it's not news that these movies
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  Speaker 1: are coming out. It is news. Uh, the trailers are
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  Speaker 1: news because the trailers are new. And then the bigger
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  Speaker 1: news is that they're both coming directly to Disney Plus,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm honestly a little surprised about. I thought both
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  Speaker 1: of these would be and maybe I just missed the
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  Speaker 1: news earlier, but I just assumed both of these would
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  Speaker 1: be theater releases. Yeah, I knew that Hocus Focused to
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  Speaker 1: was aiming straight for Disney Plus and Hocus Pocused the original.
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  Speaker 1: If you watch it, it feels a lot like a
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  Speaker 1: a made for Disney Channel kind of movie to me.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't. It doesn't like you could easily think of
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  Speaker 1: this as it's a made for TV film, not a
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  Speaker 1: cinematic film. So Hocus Focus Too didn't really surprise me
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  Speaker 1: that much. Disenchanted surprised me more because that was definitely
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  Speaker 1: a cinematic film when it came out the first time
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  Speaker 1: I saw it in the theater. Yeah, yeah, so um.
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  Speaker 1: And also we wanted to say, like, this is a
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  Speaker 1: contrast with what's going on over at Warner Brothers Discovery,
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  Speaker 1: where David Zaslov has made it very clear that anything
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  Speaker 1: that's going to have a significant production budget is really
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  Speaker 1: going to be dedicated towards cinemas and movie theaters and
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  Speaker 1: not so much streaming because of how hard it is
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  Speaker 1: to get a good return on investment if you are
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  Speaker 1: making high production value stuff specifically for streaming. Disney apparently
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  Speaker 1: has not gotten the memo on that. We know Amazon
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  Speaker 1: hasn't because they continue to make the most expensive series ever.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean Disney has a lot of revenue venues,
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  Speaker 1: so that's true able to spread it out a bit more. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they do divide it up for the shareholders, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's not like Disney just has one giant bucket that
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  Speaker 1: yet says money on it. They actually do, you know,
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  Speaker 1: break it down by here's here's what the parks. You know,
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  Speaker 1: how much the parks cost versus how much they generated.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they have different departments and everything. But still,
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  Speaker 1: to your point, it is a multibillion dollar company that has,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has kind of written the book on how
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  Speaker 1: to make money. Yeah. Yeah, um, I I had a
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  Speaker 1: thought and I just completely lost it. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think the C Plus is raising their prices though, so
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  Speaker 1: maybe that'll buffer it a little bit. That might it Also,
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  Speaker 1: like it's it's tricky because you also have to continue
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  Speaker 1: to attract more subscribers. They're also introducing I believe they're
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  Speaker 1: introducing an ad supported tier as well, so you will
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  Speaker 1: be able to have a less expensive tier, but there
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  Speaker 1: will be ads, and then there will be the ad
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  Speaker 1: free tier that will you know, cost more, but you
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  Speaker 1: won't have ads in your in your experience, which is
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  Speaker 1: something that Netflix is doing too. So we're we are
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  Speaker 1: seeing it might be I mean, we're definitely seeing some
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  Speaker 1: pushes to find different approaches to generating revenue in these
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  Speaker 1: streaming models. But yeah, to your point, both of these
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  Speaker 1: projects are going straight to Disney Plus. Uh. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: being honest, I'm more interested and disenchanted than I am
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  Speaker 1: in hocus Pocus too. That that not that I thought
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  Speaker 1: disenchanted swept me off my feet, but the original was entertaining,
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  Speaker 1: whereas I feel like I missed the boat on the
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  Speaker 1: original hocus Pocus because by the time I finally watched it,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't find a whole lot of entertainment value in it.
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  Speaker 1: And I know there are hocus Pocus fans who would
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  Speaker 1: string me up for saying such a such a such
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  Speaker 1: a black swim this thing, but it just didn't work
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  Speaker 1: for me. I'll be streamed up right next to you, Jonathan,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm vigorously shaking my head. You can't see it
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  Speaker 1: because I've got my camera turned off and our audience
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  Speaker 1: can't hear it, but I I am in agreement with you. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The next thing that they announced it uh D twenty
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  Speaker 1: three that you highlighted in our notes, Jonathan, is that
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  Speaker 1: audience has got to see a teaser for Peter Pan
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  Speaker 1: and One Dy, which I am ashamed to say I
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  Speaker 1: forgot was even happening. I don't know that I ever
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  Speaker 1: knew it was happening until I was hearing about the
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  Speaker 1: D twenty three stuff. So, yeah, this is a live
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  Speaker 1: action remake of Disney's version of Peter Pan. So um
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  Speaker 1: so it's not as far as I know, they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to the original source material. They're not going to
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  Speaker 1: the original stage play or than the novelization of that
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  Speaker 1: stage play to to tell the story, but rather to
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  Speaker 1: go back to the original Disney version of it and
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  Speaker 1: retell it that way. And the thing that excite to
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  Speaker 1: me most is that Jude Law is playing Captain Hook.
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  Speaker 1: And I am very curious to see Jude Laws Captain Hook.
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  Speaker 1: Hasn't he played Captain Hook? And something else I think
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  Speaker 1: you might be thinking of. You might be thinking of
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  Speaker 1: the dude who was who was um uh, Draco Malfoy's
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  Speaker 1: dad in Harry Potter. Jason Isaac I think is his name.
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  Speaker 1: He played Hook in a in a previous Peter Pan film,
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  Speaker 1: and he was brilliant in it. Okay, okay? Is that
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  Speaker 1: the I don't remember the name of it now, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I think it might just be called Pan,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't or it might be called Peter. I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember it. I just remember distinctly the scene he's
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  Speaker 1: sneaking up, he's spying on. I think it's Peter Pan
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  Speaker 1: and Wendy. But he's spying on someone and there's a
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  Speaker 1: little fairy that's landed next to him, and he just
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  Speaker 1: very casually without taking his eyes off the folks he's
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  Speaker 1: spying on whispers I don't believe in fairies, and the
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  Speaker 1: fairy just dies, and I thought that's brilliant. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's Peter Pan. There was a movie that came out
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  Speaker 1: that was Pan and it got pretty panned. Uh So
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  Speaker 1: I told maybe that was Hugh Jackman in that one.
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  Speaker 1: Ah Well, the reason why I even brought this up
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  Speaker 1: is because, dear listeners, you may not know this, but
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  Speaker 1: Peter Pan is Ariel's favorite Disney character. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: know he's a villain, um, but it doesn't stop me
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  Speaker 1: for like just that that idea of like going away
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  Speaker 1: and adventuring without losing time. I mean it's very appealing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Whereas Captain Captain Hook is one of my favorite characters.
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  Speaker 1: Which is so interesting that Ariel and I are such
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  Speaker 1: good friends because our favorite characters are are arch nemeses
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  Speaker 1: to each other. Yeah. Well, this this Peter Pan will
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  Speaker 1: dive into Wendy's story. Um, so that is fun. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I think like if I knew about it. It came
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  Speaker 1: out with the whole like slew of we think that
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  Speaker 1: these are going to be made into live action movies,
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  Speaker 1: rumors that came out years ago, along with like Hercules,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm kind of surprised still isn't making it. Although
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  Speaker 1: that that would be quite an investment for them to
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  Speaker 1: do Hercules, I don't know, having having to set James
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  Speaker 1: Wood's head on fire over and over would be very expensive.
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  Speaker 1: I was I was really curious about your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: this though, like, like, do you have any specific reaction
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  Speaker 1: to the idea of a live action remake of Peter
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  Speaker 1: Pan or do you not care? Or so? I do
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  Speaker 1: like the story and when it's done well, it's so
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  Speaker 1: much fun. I like the movie Peter Pan that came
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  Speaker 1: out in the early two thousand's. I like, um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like Hook. I know you don't like Cook Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: um and like I loved the old stage play like
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  Speaker 1: the old was it Kathy Rigby? Oh? You mean the
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  Speaker 1: one like the original one where you had an actress
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  Speaker 1: playing the part of Pan and I'm flying, Yes, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I probably got the actress's name on but uh, I
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  Speaker 1: mean I like Peter Pan. The story is a lot
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  Speaker 1: darker in the book. Um, I just it's been done
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  Speaker 1: a lot, and even recently there was an independent film
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to type because I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: make everybody listen to it. I think it was called
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  Speaker 1: Wendy Bird or something like that that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: a peel off of Peter Pan and Wendy's story. So
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  Speaker 1: they're saying that it's it's this whole new thing of
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  Speaker 1: diving deeper into Wendy's story, and I feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: been done a couple of times. So yeah, they talked
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  Speaker 1: about how Wendy is essentially Pans equal in this version,
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  Speaker 1: so that she's not just a kind of supporting character
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  Speaker 1: or a character to whom things happen, but can be
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  Speaker 1: a little more proactive. I'm curious about that. But, like
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  Speaker 1: you say, there have been so many different not just
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  Speaker 1: retellings of Peter Pan, but various like supplemental material invented
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  Speaker 1: around Peter Pan. Like, there have been numerous versions that
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  Speaker 1: try and tell Captain Hooks back story. There are various
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  Speaker 1: sequels that have been created. There have been musicals that
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  Speaker 1: have been about the creation of Peter Pan itself that
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  Speaker 1: incorporate elements of Peter Pan's story into uh, the overall
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  Speaker 1: story of the creation of the narrative. It's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that this is one of those
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  Speaker 1: tales where there are so many different variations and versions
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  Speaker 1: and spinoffs. You know. I think it's just too early
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  Speaker 1: to tell, because we did not get to watch the trailer,
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  Speaker 1: not being at Dree, I don't I don't know, like
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  Speaker 1: I like that story. It's the same reason I like
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  Speaker 1: Dr who Um or you know, Pippy Long Stockings or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. So it it's just we'll have to see,
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  Speaker 1: We'll have to see. There's a lot of things they
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  Speaker 1: announced it d twenty three that I would have been
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  Speaker 1: very interested to see, such as Elio or waju Um
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  Speaker 1: some some of the stuff that is not a remake
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  Speaker 1: that is not a sequel um, But they haven't released
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  Speaker 1: that yet, and maybe that's so that it's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more polished once the general public does see it.
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  Speaker 1: And I respect that, But that's the stuff I'm really
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  Speaker 1: interested about saying. I mean, like some of the remake
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  Speaker 1: stuff I'm curious about kind of in the Hey, why
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  Speaker 1: is traffic slowed down? Is that a wreck up ahead?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of way, like like I'm not I'm not optimistic
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  Speaker 1: about being the right audience for it necessarily, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I am curious about the live action Snow White remake.
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  Speaker 1: M I mean, seeing Galga Dot play a bad guy
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  Speaker 1: is kind of an interesting idea. Yeah, now I do too,
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  Speaker 1: um other things like that. People got a sneak peek
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  Speaker 1: at Elemental, which is the next Pixar film. It's funny
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  Speaker 1: because yeah, that's what I thought when I saw it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this looks like this looks like Inside
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  Speaker 1: Out Too. But you know, they also announced that there
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  Speaker 1: will be an Inside Out Too at D twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: so maybe they're just making Elemental twice and re skinning
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  Speaker 1: all the characters. I mean, it's it's supposed to be about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the melt like society being a melting pot.
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  Speaker 1: So that is a little different than Inside Out Too.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I get this Utopia Utopia vibes, which we're
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  Speaker 1: also getting his Utopia shows for Disney plus soum. It'll
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  Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they make it different. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they And then they gave us a bunch of like
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  Speaker 1: Marvel trailers and and Star Wars trailers, which we knew
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  Speaker 1: were going to happen, and they were all fine, They've
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  Speaker 1: got good casts. None of them actually, honestly really sparked
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  Speaker 1: like my excitement. They all looked good, but they all
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  Speaker 1: looked like what I was expecting. Yeah, there's some stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we didn't get to see. Then that's the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that I would be interested in, Like I want to
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: see a trailer for iron Heart. But we also know
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  Speaker 1: that iron Heart is still shooting, because they're shooting here
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Before we started recording, I told Ariel that
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  Speaker 1: off of Edgeway Avenue, which is not too far from
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  Speaker 1: where I live. Uh, they created a fake white castle,
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  Speaker 1: which whitecastle does not exist in Georgia. We don't have
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  Speaker 1: white castles here. And people started to get excited that
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  Speaker 1: a white castle was coming to Atlanta. But in fact
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  Speaker 1: it's a set, and not only that, they're gonna blow
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  Speaker 1: it up at the end. So spoiler alert, we know
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  Speaker 1: and we know a white castle is going to explode
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  Speaker 1: in iron Heart. Um not that not that they've done
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  Speaker 1: it yet as far as I know, but that's like
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  Speaker 1: the word on the street, which is Edgewood Avenue, as
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  Speaker 1: it turns out, So, which is a rumor I completely missed.
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  Speaker 1: So well done, Jonathan. I mean, it was just because
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what was shooting on
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  Speaker 1: Edgewood Avenue because my wife encountered a film crew that
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  Speaker 1: was taking a very shiny muscle car down Edgewood Avenue.
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  Speaker 1: And my best guess is that it was iron Heart,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know for sure that that was. It
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: could be some other. So much stuff shoots in it
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  Speaker 1: and it's impossible to say, yeah, we we always have
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  Speaker 1: like over thirty productions here, which is fantastic because there
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of people who get jobs off of that.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's um, it's delightful and not just me. Um.
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  Speaker 1: There were things that D twenty three that did excite us, though,
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  Speaker 1: one of which was the new trailer for Willow, which
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you better give us a new trailer
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  Speaker 1: and a release date for Willow, and they did, yes.
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  Speaker 1: So what what was your thoughts on this? You know,
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  Speaker 1: the trailer. Uh, it's interesting because back when Willow was made,
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  Speaker 1: the first time that was near the dawn of c
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  Speaker 1: g I type stuff, right, like I think they had
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like the two headed dragon monster was c g I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and Willow. If I'm not mistaken, I don't think it
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: was stop motion. It's been a long time since I've
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: seen Willow, so I can't. I can't say for sure
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: if it was, if it was c G I it
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: looked stop motion. E. Maybe it was stop motion, and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: maybe it was a practical effect. I just don't. I can't.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It's like I said, haven't watched that movie in so long,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: but most of the effects were practical. Obviously, we're in
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: a totally different effects age now, and so for one thing,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the look of Willow is more sophisticated than the film
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: version was years ago. Even though this is a series
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: that's also made as a streaming platform series as opposed
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to this is you know, this isn't something that's going
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to movie theaters. Um. But yeah, the the actual like
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: depiction of what the story is looks way more epic
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: in scale than the original Willow. It does so the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: first the first time, when we got the teaser trailer
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: for Willow, um, I was like, this is everything I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: wanted the Wheel of Time Amazon series to be. Uh.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: No offense for people who like Wheel of Time not
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: being a reader of those books like this Willow. The
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: first Wheel trailer hit all of those emotional like points
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that I was expecting. Um, this new trailer is hitting
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: all of my nostalgic emotion old points. Um, because they're
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: bringing back old characters, are bringing back old themes, but
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: they're doing it in a way where it feels because
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: because it is a more sophisticated visual style, now it
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: feels more immersive. Uh. And so like instantly I was
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: invested in the characters and the stories being told within
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: within this new trailer. It's it looks like it's got action,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it looks like it's got romance, it looks like it's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: got humor. Um, And I'm just super it's still they
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: put in that serendipity books looking see dragon in it
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: or whatever the creature is in the trailer that I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: love like aesthetically just makes me go, um, sorry, y'all
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: had to listen to that. Yes, I'm very excited about it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: What about you, Jonathan I am. I think it looks
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: like a really fun fantasy series. And the fact that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Willow was an original i P when it came out
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: means that, like we're getting a sequel to original i P.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's the you know, adaptation of some
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: other story, right, it's not like it's the Game of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Thrones type stuff, or even The Rings of Power, which
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: obviously is based off a world created by Tolkien, although
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: not based off of a specific Tolkien story. Um. But this,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: because it's it's building on its own mythology, makes me
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: more excited because there aren't You're not going in there
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: with like a preconceived idea of what everything is supposed
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to look like and the kind of the beats that
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the story is going to follow, so they can tell
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: their story however they like, and and there's not going
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: to be that reaction, right, You're not gonna be like, oh,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: you told it wrong, because this is the first time
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: we're getting it. I'm excited about that. I want to
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: see more material come out that is um, you know, new,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that's not like based off some other pre existing me um.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: So this like, yeah, well no it really is because
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: it's a sequel. It's not I mean, it's not adapting
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: like a comic book or something, right, and uh like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this and knives out like like those are the kind
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: of things that I get really excited about because I'm like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I know generally what to expect from a tone and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: visual concept, but the actual story is going to be
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: all new to me, and that's exciting. So I like
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the trailer. You know, that was probably the trailer that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: came out of D twenty three that I was the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: most excited about, the one that we could see Anyway,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I love the stuff of D twenty three has not
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: been released to the public, like I can tell you,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I would have loved to have seen even just a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: teaser for the Marvels. I'm very curious about that film.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: UM give us Like you could go on YouTube and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: see like some information about like Thunderbolts, which is fun. Yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you got to see the casting of thunder Bolts. It's interesting. Yeah,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I like. I like knowing that the Red Guardian is
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: coming back for Thunderbolts because I really liked him in
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Black Widow, Like that's really the only him in Winter
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Soldier and Elena are the only reasons that I'm interested
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in Thunderbolts. I'm very curious to see if they add
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a couple more characters. And I'm wondering if the fact
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that those characters weren't mentioned is because it would have
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: been a spoiler for She Hulk, which is currently currently running.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Quite possibly. I have not watched the very latest episode. Um,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, Ariel, the very latest
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: episode of she Hulk is fine. It's fine, but it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: ends with like, if we didn't know that this certain
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: character is going to show up and she Hulk already,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the ending would really get you like squeeing. But we
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: all know this character is showing up, so it's just like, oh,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: will be next episode. It took me a second because
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: again I'm a little sleepy, so I'm a little so
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it took me a second. But okay, Yeah. The biggest
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: problem I have with she Hulk is it feels like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the episodes all end very abruptly and that they're very
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: very short. I kind of get that because it feels like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: just as the episode is picking up steam, it's over. Yeah. Yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: that's that was my biggest problem with this most recent one, um,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: which you know was still cute. Like, I like the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: tone and I like the characterization. Um, I kind of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: feel the same way you do. I feel like maybe
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: if the episodes have been padded out a bit more
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: so that they felt a bit more substantial, I would
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I would, I would like it more. But I like
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the show just fine. Yeah, Well, there's just a couple
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: of episodes that literally felt like they ended in the
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: middle of a scene to me. Yeah. Um, and and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: that's a joke you can pull once. But I like,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want to give spoilers away, so we can
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: talk about it not on this podcast. For anybody who
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: has not caught up with she Hulk. I know there
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: are listeners who are not up to date on it
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: because there's so much cool geeky stuff to watch out there. Um.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: So we talked about the Willow trailer. We we are
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: going to talk about the Little Murmur Murmur mur Mur.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Look I'm underwater and I'm saying it. Okay, your name
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: is Ariel. Yes, we're going to talk about the Little
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Mermaid teaser trailer because that ties into our mash up
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: this week. But we're gonna talk about one more thing
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: from Disney and then some other geek news because yes,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: there was a little bit of other geek news this
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: week before we get into that. So the last D
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: three thing we're going to talk about before we move
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: on is the Werewolf by Night trailer, which is different
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: from anything else at D twenty three it seems. Yeah,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: so Werewolf by Night is another Marvel title, it's one
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that is only loosely connected to the overall Marvel universe
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in the I mean there's more of a connection in
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the comics. It appears to be a standalone thing as
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: far as I can tell. Maybe it's not. Maybe it
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: turns out that it's deeply connected to the MC you
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: in the film version, but I don't know. But yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: where All by Night comes across as a completely different
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: sort of movie, both both totally and content wise than
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: anything else coming out of Disney right now, especially anything
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that's that closely related to the Disney brand. Because the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: way Disney usually works whenever it's producing something that's you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: more violent or mature, is to use one of their
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: subsidiary film distribution UH companies so that it's not as
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: tightly associated with the brand Disney. But this is a
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Marvel movie, and yet it looks like a classic horror
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: monster movie. It almost looks like a B level movie
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to me. There there are definitely some some special effects
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that feel purposefully less than Yeah. Yeah, I feel like
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like the same sort of decisions you
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: saw in Um and the Bram Stoker's Dracula film from
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: decades ago. Now, but in that film, Francis Ford Coppola
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: famously reused old techniques, like classic film era techniques to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: make special effects, so he was using the same sort
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of approaches that people in the thirties and forties were
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: using in order to make special effects for their movies.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: This feels like it's also a throwback to that kind
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of thing. In fact, it feels like they're trying to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: tap into the esthetic and tone of those classic monster movies,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: like the old universal days. Yeah, yeah, it really does. Um,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued. It's definitely scary. It looks like I mean,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: it looks like it's scary to me. So if your
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: aerial level scary, which is not much tolerance at all,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: than maybe be prepared. Maybe don't show it to your children.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to put it behind an
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: age wall like they do Jessica Jones and such. Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I thought this would be right
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: up your alley because of your love for monster movies. Yes, yes, no,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued. I like monster movies. I'm looking forward
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to it. All of that was in my head. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: didn't say it out loud, which is great for a podcast. Um,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it just does look a little scary, like scarier than
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of the Disney scary stuff. Oh sure, yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: it looks more intense like. While it has the aesthetic
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of those older classic Universal Monster movies, it has been updated,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't feel as stodgy as some of
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: those movies could feel like, especially the the lesser titles
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in that era. Um. It is also in black and white,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: so that's part of the aesthetic that's that's tapping into.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Um Or, at least the trailer was in black and white.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming the full movie will be. But yeah, it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I gotta say, like I was shocked by it, not
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: like not like I was put off by it, but
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: just it was so surprising to see something that intense
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: in a overall Disney Marvel presentation. I agree, I agree.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Um yeah, well, we'll have to see as as more
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: stuff comes out about it. I'm sure there will be
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: at least one other trailer before it drops. Um So
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit of not Disney news, which is, uh,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: we gotta trailer for season two of Avenue five, which
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: is like Gilligan's Island in outer space, but because it's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: outer space, all of the consequences are much more dire. Um,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and Jonathan, you only watched one episode of Avenue five, right,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that is correct. This is the basic premises. You've got
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a cruise ship, a space cruiser, uh, and the captain
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: played by Hugh Laurie is essentially a fraud. Um. It's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: not that he's willingly perpetuating the fraud, but he's kind
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: of going along with it. And then uh, a terrible
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: accident takes out the one actually capable person on the ship.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Ain't that always the way? And so then the rest
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: of what happens is a bunch of people who are
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: at to varying degrees incompetent, attempting to uh to solve
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: a problem that looks like it's unsolvable. And it's ostensibly
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a comedy. I say ostensibly because I watched that first
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: episode and I was not really entertained or amused. Like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: maybe it's just the humor doesn't hit me. Right. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: love Hugh Laurie, so I thought his performance was great.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: But I watched that first episode and I was just like,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: oh man, this is not working for me, and I bounced.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I get it. So it is. It is humor, but
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: it's very dark, um um dark and also a little
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: bit amped up. Um. So it's not quite situational. Um
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: it is a little cheesy, but it's also I mean,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: it's also very dark. You're in outer space where no
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: one can hear you scream, and you know, you get
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: air locked and you explode. Right, Um, I liked it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: The second trailer for me made me go, this has
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: got to be the last season because I don't know
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: how they're going to survive any of these things. But
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I spent the entire first season doing that too. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: just I don't know. It appealed to me, and I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: can't quite put my finger on why. I mean, so
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I watched the trailer and really the only thing that
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: trailer did was spoil the the fact that characters that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: appeared in the first episode of season one survive at
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: least until season two, because because again I hadn't watched
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: all of season one. So like, like, Josh Gadd plays
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a character in the series, and he's incredibly obnoxious. The
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: character not Josh Gadd, but the character is incredibly obnoxious,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and he pops up in the trailer. I'm like, Okay,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: so this guy survived. Um, So like like there were
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: there were those kind of revelations. But as I was
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: watching it, even watching this trailer, I still felt like
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the humor is just a miss for me. It just
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it doesn't work. Like maybe it's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the tonal difference, the fact that you have this very
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: serious crisis, uh, and then you have this overlay of
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: kind of zany humor, sort of like some of the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: characters are just truly over the top characters, and it
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't mesh in a way that feels like it all
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: fits together for me. Um. Unlike something like say the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: fourth season of black Adder, which is also set in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a very grim setting, but and it also has over
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the top characters. Hugh Laurie is also in it. Hey
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: there's another connection. But um, but that one works great
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: for me because the humor seems to fit the situation
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and it's a commentary on the situation. In Avenue five,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: you can't really do a commentary because like, space tourism
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: is not nearly to that level. So it just, I
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, it just doesn't work for me. I get that.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I mean not everything works for everybody. For instance, Uh,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I don't like the sims. I find that bleak I mean,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I've never played it, but I have enough trouble managing
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: my own life, why would I want to manage somebody else's.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: So like that's very popular. Not everything is for everybody. Yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And the reason Arial brings that up is because the
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: SIMS four is going free to play soon, so that
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: if you are someone who did not purchase the SIMS
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: four but you've wanted to play it soon, you'll have
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: that opportunity and then all you'll have to do is
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: pay for all the additional material that you're going to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: want access to once you have access to the base game.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it's it's funny that you say that,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: areal because like the SIMS, playing the SIMS really does
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: start to illustrate some dark truths about general existence, which
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: is that unless you use a cheat code and you
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: get access to unlimited amounts of money, so in the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: real world, that would be unless you're a billionaire, you
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: cannot achieve all the things you want to do, Like
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you can't have a satisfying career and healthy family life
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: and lots of friends and fun hobbies because you just
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: don't have the time and energy to see to all
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: of that. So it's just a series of compromises until
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you ultimately die. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. If you have already
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: bought the game, you can get a couple of free bonuses.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Uh my her bonuses? Yeah, I don't. Yeah, just goes
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: not everything is for everybody, just like our final story
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: before we get to our mash up, which is Uh.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: They are rereleasing Halloween the Original to theaters again this year. Yeah. Yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: they did it last year. They're doing it again. I
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're saying, aial. I think that John
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Carpenter's Halloween is a fun time for the whole family.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: It is not the kind of classic monster movie that
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I enjoy. Jonathan, Just pile up the kiddos in a car,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: head off to your local cinema plex, PLoP them down
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: with a bucket of popcorn each. Please don't do that,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and watch Jamie Lee Curtis be terrorized by a masked,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: remorseless killer for two hours. Please don't do that. I mean,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are some kids who would enjoy it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: This adult just is scared by it. So uh. It's
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: so interesting to me that this movie spawned an entire franchise.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: It is one of the first slasher films like arguably
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Halloween is the first truly modern slasher. The predecessors would
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: include stuff like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but Halloween had more
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: of the earmarks that we would associate with the slashers
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: genre as a whole, and movies movie series like would
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: m ape Halloween like they were essentially mimics of Halloween,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and um, yeah, the it's the There's actually very few
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: kills compared to like a modern horror movie, but the
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: tension is pretty strong in that film, and the sound track,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: that simple staccato piano theme for for Myers is one
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: of the most iconic and effective bits of movie music
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that I can think of. I agree that the scoring
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: for it is is their effective. That's part of the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: reason it scares me so much. Yeah, it's a it's
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: a a good slasher movie. Like it's hard for me
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to say it's a great film because I really do
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: also feel it's a product of its time, and that
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the pacing and the style of the film probably it
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't appeal to a lot of modern horror movie fans.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. It's hard to say, because like
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I grew up with that movie being fresh, so it's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: my perception is very different than if I were to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: just come at it today having never seen it before. Yeah. Yeah, uh,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: that's all I have to say on that, because again
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge I've I've only seen the first
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: movie through, like my fingers, I haven't watched the rest
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: of them. I've seen most of them, and I have
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: funny stories about seeing some of the worst ones in
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the theater because because I saw it in a theater
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: filled with people who were not afraid to comment on
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the film, and it was like being in an MST
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: three K episode except for real and nobody had seen
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the movie before. That was fun if you don't mind it,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: like if you if you really want to listen to
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the movie, it's not fun at all. Well. Yeah, if
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the movie had been even remotely good, I'm sure I
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: would have found it irritating. But the movie was so
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: bad that this was the only way it was going
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to be entertaining, And to this day it's one of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: my favorite theater going experiences I've ever had. But like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you say, Ariel, it has to be under very specific
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: circumstances for that to work. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, all right,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Well that was all of our news, mostly except for
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: our mashup news, and what we are matching up this
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: week is The Little Mermaid because we got the teaser
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: trailer for the live action Little Mermaid and Squid Games
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: because they and an award an Emmy for Outstanding Lead
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Actor in a Drama Series, which, by the way, I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: find interesting because I was telling Ariel this before we
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: started recording, I had watched the most of the first
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: episode of Squid Game, like maybe half of the first episode,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and I had turned it off. And this was already
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: after folks were really talking about Squid Game when it
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: initially came out on Netflix, and so I was late
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: to the party already. I watched about half the first
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: episode and then you know, I stopped it because I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: had to do something, and I just never went back
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: to it for the longest time. And the only thing
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that I remembered was how over the top the lead
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: actor's performance was. Like whenever he was expressing things like
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: insincere remorse, or he was complaining, like he was playing
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the victim, like like he didn't want to take responsibility
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: for his own bad choices and he was playing the victim.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: It was so over the top that I found it distracting,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Like it almost was like if you see a theater
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: actor who's used to playing to the back row in
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: enormous theater houses then have to do a close up
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: video and you're like, wow, dial it back. That's kind
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of how I felt watching it. But I've since gone
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: back and watched more of it and I really enjoy it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm still like amazed that
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that got and that the lead actor gun award for acting. Uh,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: just because the style is so very different from what
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: we typically think of as great acting in the West.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, but you've got to recognize, you know, excellence
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: in in other styles of storytelling. Sure, I love that,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I think so. It's just it's just amazing that people
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: enough people voted that way, right, like, because you we
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: especially when you're looking at Western UM Awards shows, there's
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: obviously a clear um preference for Western styles and anything
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: that's outside of that has a harder time winning awards.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: But in this case he did, which is fantastic. Congratulations UM.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: And and yeah, the actual the actual story of squid
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Game is right up my alley. I I describe it
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: as the combination of Battle Royale and the novella The
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Running Man, not not the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, but the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: novella that that movie is loosely based off of. You see,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: like it's on my list of things to watch. I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: have not watched squidgam I'm gonna be quite honest. I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: picked it because squids are in the ocean and so
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: is the Little roomade Um what what? But I do
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: worry because Battle Royale is fine. But I do, like
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I have a very short limit for media that's stuff
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: like The Running Man or The Long Walk or or
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: things where it's it's like dystopian hit person against person
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: for survival. I don't know, it just makes me feel
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough one for you. For this
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the series will be tough for you. I'll just say
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: it like it's not I'm not trying to tell you
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: not to watch it, but that you know that certainly
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: is a factor that plays out in the series. Without
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: giving anything away, uh so, yeah, if you have, like
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the big thing about those stories typically is
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that you start off with a large number of people
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and the losses early on. You might have a couple
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: of characters that you're you're sad to see go early on.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: But generally speaking, it's like you have your protagonists and
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: then a bunch of people that you don't really know
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: so you don't care that much about. And then as
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the group gets whittled down, you start to care more
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and more because at least a few people tend to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: be important to the story, and thus we care about
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: them more. And that's where it starts to really get uncomfortable.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: And that definitely I can I'm not through with squid Game,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: but I can definitely see that's where it's going. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm aware that's that's honestly, like I have
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to be in the right mindset to watch it. Um.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I was in the right mindset to watch the teaser
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: trailer for The Little Mermaid. Um. Honestly, like you, you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: it took me a while to warm up to The
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Little Mermaid. My name's Ariel. I was seven when the
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: movie came out. Don't do the math, good listeners. My
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: best friend was named Eric, and he did at the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: time like he didn't want to be my friend much
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: longer after that. Um. And And honestly, I kind of
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't like the Disney story. I felt like it
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: was this spoiled girl who did a bunch of bad
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: decisions with no repercussions. Um. Because I was used to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the Haunts Christian Anderson version. I know that's really deep
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: for a seven year old, but it's something I clung
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: to as a child growing up. But I loved the music,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and honestly, I am really excited for this, this live
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: action version. It might be one of the live actions
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I'm most excited about. I really love the casting, um,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Deavie Diggs as Sebastian Hallie Bailey as the Little Mermaid,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: because these are these are people who actually have the
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: acting and the singing chops. Um. There have been so
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: many live action Disney movies where like they're either really
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: great actors or they're really great singers, and it's not
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: necessarily both. But um, I think Hallie sounds amazing. Um
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: in the little bit we get to hear, I think
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: she emoted beautifully. I think just visually, it's stunning. So
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: this O g Ariel super approves of the new arial. Um. Yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: same here. I mean, okay, full disclosure. There's a little
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: bit of a run at the end of part of
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: your world that I could do without. But that's because
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I have a pet peeve about vocal runs where the
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: phrase I've often used is just because you can, doesn't
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: mean you should. But but that's that's that's my own
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: personal preference. Like it's why if Mariah Carey comes on
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the radio, I have to get out of the general
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: area as fast as possible. So it has it's nothing
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: to do with her because her her vocal ability. Uh
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and like you said, her emoting is fantastic, and I
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: think it's a great choice, you know, to go with
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: her for the character. So I'm also curious because like
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Little Mermaid was the film that made me fall back
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: in love with Disney because by the time when when
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Little Mermaid came out, that was at a time where
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Disney animation was kind of an a lull. It had
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: not really been striking accord with audiences for several years,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like those where the Don Bluth years. And it's not
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: that Don Bluth did bad work, it's just those movies
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: just didn't become classics the same way they have their fans.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Like there are people who will their ride or die
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Oliver and Company fans, right, I am not one of them. Um,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: So for me, like when Little Mermaid came out, I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: was not interested in seeing it because Disney animation that
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: reputation had fallen a very far away in a lot
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: of people's eyes, including mine. And then I went and
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: saw a little Mermaid like opening weekend because my family
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: demanded we go see it, and I was floored. I
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: was absolutely floored by that, partly because Ashman and Lincoln,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: who did the the music, they also did a little
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Shop of Horrors, and you can tell because there's a
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: lot of similarities in the music. UM. But it totally
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: won me over. And while I typically don't like live
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: action remakes of Disney films just because I don't see
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the necessity, this trailer looked really good and I am
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: curious to see how they tell that story in this
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: other format um and what performance has come through, because
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I know they're going to be different from the original,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: but different could mean, you know, enchanting in a whole
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: new way. Yes, And I'm also super excited because unlike
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: some other live actions where they've taken out the music
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that we love or they've changed it or whatnot, Limnuel Miranda,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: they're keeping all the stuff we love it because that's
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: the best part of Little Mermaids the songs, right, um
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Limnuel Miranda has written a few other songs for it,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and I really like the music that he's written for
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Disney overall. I mean, not every song has gonna win
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: his uh A book is not just the cover or whatever.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Whatever it was for Mary Poppins Returns was just okay,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: but all the songs and Mary Poppin's Returns were just okay. Okay,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: that's true, but it was still fun. Um. But I'm
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm he's a big fan of Little Womaid. I'm really
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: excited to see what he brings to it. One of
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: our friends said that he's also playing the cook, which um,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I haven't confirmed, but would be really cool if that's true. Yeah.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I hope he gave Ursula another song. Me too. She
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: should have, She should have like twelve more songs, because
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: good Lord, Poor Unfortunate Souls might be my favorite Disney
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: song of all time. If it's not my favorite, it's
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: definitely in the top five because that is a great
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: villain song. It's a really good song. Yeah, I agree. Um,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And it's just it's it's it's it's accessible. Um, most
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: people can sing it, which I think is great. Yeah,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I've definitely done it in karaoke. Yeah. I mean like,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: there are Disney songs that I love and I try
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to sing them and I sound like, um, a mouse
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: who got punched in the throat. Um I wish? Yeah,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: yeah we have. Those are two things that we're mashing together.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Is the Lower Mermaid and Squid Game, Ariel, who would
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you like to go first? I'll go first. Like I said,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched squid games. I'm very vaguely familiar with it,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: so I have apologize in advance. Uh, something I like
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: to do before my mashups. It makes me feel better.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Um No, I should stop. But okay, some things fishy
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: with this squid is the title. Sure, the Little Mermaid
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: had a checkered past, gambling away her voice and inheritance
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: on a cute guy, making deals with shady sea creatures,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: generally being self centered, but she had also paid her
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: dues and was now living her best part time mermaid life,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and that's why Ariel was completely surprised one day when
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: she was snatched up from lounging in some sunny shallows
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: by a fishing net and knocked out. When she came
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: to she was in a large glass container full of
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: water in front of her were well, it looked like
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: a bunch of matching mermaids standing on dry land, And
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there was a sequential beeping, and
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the mermaids started walking and running towards her. She opened
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: her mouth to scream for help, but her voice was
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: amplified and echoed, and a couple of the mermaids exploded.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: The rest of them just stopped moving. Sorry, just the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: ventilage was so innocuous and just exploding mermaids. I'm sorry,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: let's continue. As the surviving mermaids made their way once
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: more towards a silent Ariel, she could see now that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: they weren't mermaids, but were in fact landfolk in matching
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: green track suits. She opened her mouth once again, voice
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: amplified again, with most of the humans stopping and the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: ones who didn't once again exploding. Ariel hated this, and
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: she pleaded for them to stop her, help her, And
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: she was so complicted about it too, because she wanted out,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: but she just didn't want all of these poor humans
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: to die. So she finally decided her death count was
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: enough and the best thing to do would be to
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: stay silent, just like her first foray into the human
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: world proper. The remaining track suited humans all made it
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: safely past her tank, and Ariel felt a small amount
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: of temporary relief as she was wheeled indoors into a
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: large office while the track suited humans all went somewhere else.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: She wasn't sure. Once she got into this indoor office,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: she was faced to glass with a looming individual in
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: a black suit, a one sea witch named Ursula, who
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: had disappeared from the underwater realms after she exhausted her
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: clients and welcomed there, and now was collecting debts on
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: dry land via a murderous game she was calling the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: squid game. Okay, yes, I know technically she was part octopus,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: but she needed some anonymity even though she was in
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: a different land. Ariel banged on the glass to no avail.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: She opened her mouth to explode Ursula like she did
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: the humans, but again to no avail. She thought all
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: was lost, and just then the door first open to
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Ursula's office via gaggle of seagulls, crustaceans, amphibians who quickly
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: threw a sheet over Arieal in her tube. She didn't
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: know why. But immediately following those animals were some government agents.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: They had gotten an anonymous call in morse code because
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: animals can't talk about some underground gambling murdering happening, and
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: followed it here. The government agents arrested Ursula for her
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: illegal death games and left. The ragtag bunch of creatures
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: quickly rolled Aerial in her containment tube, out of the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: warehouse and out to the sea, where she was released.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Ariel decided to write a memoir to be turned into
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: a show with names and images changed, of course, and
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: other than that, she never looked back, not even to
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: figure out what happened to the surviving human contestants the end.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: All right, I do have a question for you, Yes,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I probably I will make up an answer for you. No, No,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: this one you'll have an answer for because this is
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: this is this is more of a meta question, which
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: is how weird is it to read out a synopsis
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: where your own name appears multiple times but it's covering
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a different character? Is their separation for you where you're not?
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: That doesn't even enter into your head? Or does it
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: feel weird? Um? I honestly, writing it, it felt weird
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: because I have so many times growing up being called
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the little mermaid, especially after I for anybody who doesn't know,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I'm naturally blonde, but I have red hair now was
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: on What Not to Wear quite a few years ago. Um,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: so ever since then, like, yeah, I'm just a little mermaid.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Apparently whenever I lose my voice, I help people like, oh,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: did Ursula steal your voice? It's fine, I've I've accepted it. Um.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: It was a little weird to white, right. I honestly
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: um debated whether I was going to put my name
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: in there or not, because it was it was a
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: really weird thing to process reading It was fine though,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Like by that point I was into the story, I
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: was in narrator mode, and I was separated from myself,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, I was really curious because as I
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: was listening to it over and over, like when I'm
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: writing mine, it was one of those words like do
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I put a joke in here where I'm talking specifically
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: about the character and not about my co host? Uh?
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: And ultimately I decided not to go that route because
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: well only because I felt like, you know, it's I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: do a lot of obvious jokes already, so I might
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: as well drop one. Of them. Okay, well, then here
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: is mine. Mine is called the Little Squid Game, and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: here we go. Ariel has a problem, but at least
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: she's not in debt. No, she's got gadgets and gizmos
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: a plenty. She's got Who's It's and Watson's glore, so
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: she's financially secure and has no monetary related weight on
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: her slim shoulders. But she still has a problem. She
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: wants to be where the people are. Oh, Ariels a mermaid.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I probably should have led with that. Yeah, she's half fish,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: the lower half. I mean, it'd be weird if it
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, the left half. But no,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: she's got like a fish tail. And because we always
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: wish for what we can't have, what she really wants
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to do is explore the surface world, but she can't
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: because you know, mermaid. Okay, So anyway, one day she's
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: moping about this and this more a eel pops up
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: out of like nowhere and asks her to play a game.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: And she's like, listen, pal, I like games and all,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: but you're like crazy, gross, no offense, And the Eel's like,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: how am I not supposed to be offended? And she's
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: like what evs? And the eels like, do you think
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: it's my fault they drew me like this? Never mind,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: If you play the game and win, I'll give you this,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and the eel moves aside to show her a vest
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: or if you're from the UK, a waistcoat, and it's
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: a brocade with like brass buttons and fancy embellishments and
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: it's totally not the kind of stuff you typically find
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: in the ocean. Who says, Ariel, I'll play, And thus
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: the game begins, and it's that common children's game, you know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: the one where the two players each have a seashell,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: and one player puts their seashell on the sea floor
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and the other player has to throw their seashell at
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the other player's seashell on the sea floor and try
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: and see if they can make it turn over, and
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: if the seashell turns over, then that player wins. Otherwise,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: player two gets to pick up their seashell and they
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: try to do the same thing with player one seashell,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and it goes back and forth. Now the deal is,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: if Ariel wins, she gets the vest or waistcoat if
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: you're in the UK. But if the Eel wins it
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: gets the slapper in the face, and so Ariel takes
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: a turn and throws her seashell down at the other shell,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: but fails to turn it over, so the eel goes
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and wins that round and slap. The iel tail goes
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: right across Ariel's face. Ariel wipes her stinging cheek and says,
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  Speaker 1: let's go again, and they do, and again Ariel's throw
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  Speaker 1: produces no result, but the Eel hurls it shell down
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  Speaker 1: and flips Ariels shell over and slap, and we see
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: a montage, including a bit where the eel says, girl,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna slap the red out of your hair, until
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  Speaker 1: finally Ariel, with cheeks red from multiple slaps, manages to
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  Speaker 1: make a throw that flips the eels shell over. She
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  Speaker 1: finally wins the waistcoat, and while she celebrates, the Eel
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  Speaker 1: casually says, what if I told you there's a game
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  Speaker 1: you could play that would win you much much more?
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  Speaker 1: And Ariel pauses, and the Eel continues, what if I
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  Speaker 1: told you this game could win you the chance to
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  Speaker 1: go up to the surface world and move around to
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  Speaker 1: become a human, and Ariel's eyes go wide this is
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  Speaker 1: what she has dreamed of but was convinced was an impossibility.
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  Speaker 1: How do I play, she says. The eel smiles because
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  Speaker 1: Ariel has taken the bait and she's on the hook
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  Speaker 1: and it's time to reel her in and other fish
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  Speaker 1: puns visit Ursula, the eel says. The sea witch asks Ariel.
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  Speaker 1: She has many powers and she wants to meet you,
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  Speaker 1: says the eel, and so Ariel sets out across the
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  Speaker 1: sea to the fair layer of Ursula the sea Witch.
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  Speaker 1: This layer has all these weird geometric shapes painted on it,
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  Speaker 1: like squares and circles and triangles, and so Ariel goes
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  Speaker 1: inside to meet Ursula herself. Now Ursula is not a mermaid.
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  Speaker 1: Now she has the lower half of a tentacled monstrosity.
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  Speaker 1: Not an octopus though, because she has eight tentacles, and
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: when you add in her two arms, that means she's
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  Speaker 1: got ten extremities, which makes Ursula a squid. And Ursula
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  Speaker 1: spells out what Ariel must do. And you knew it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be a musical. Folks, if you wish to
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  Speaker 1: join the humans on the surface, there's one the easy
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  Speaker 1: way for you to get your wish. Just listen to
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  Speaker 1: my claims andjoin our little games. You win, you get
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  Speaker 1: the prize in your top fish. True. Yes, then you'll
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  Speaker 1: be a mermaid no longer. You can pop on out
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  Speaker 1: and explore the distant lands. You can go for a
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  Speaker 1: short stroll. It really is quite droll. You'll exchange your
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  Speaker 1: fins for a pair of gams. Now sign over control.
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  Speaker 1: There's just three rules. You must win every game. You
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  Speaker 1: cannot leave once it starts unless all agree to be tools.
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  Speaker 1: Just sign over control, and soon you'll be dancing with
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  Speaker 1: a handsome prince of running from a mob on your
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  Speaker 1: brand new legs. Don't you see? Now? If you decide
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  Speaker 1: to choose, you must know that if you lose, I
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  Speaker 1: shall be harshened. Then I'll take my toll. Yes, there
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: is a bit of risk, but don't delay, dear, do
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  Speaker 1: be brisk and just sign over a control. An aerial
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  Speaker 1: swept up in this half ast parody of an amazing
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  Speaker 1: Ashman Lincoln Song does just that. She signs an agreement
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  Speaker 1: and next thing she knows, she's unconscious from some mysterious
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  Speaker 1: ink shot out by Ursula, and she wakes up with
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of other fish and Mr folk and assorted
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  Speaker 1: sea creatures, and everyone's been assigned a number. Arial is
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  Speaker 1: four D fifty six, the last of all the numbers assigned,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone is a bit confused. It's clear they've all
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  Speaker 1: signed onto Ursula's games, but no one quite knows what
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  Speaker 1: to expect. And then they're all ushered into the first game,
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  Speaker 1: and it's called red Light Green Light, but this is underwater,
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  Speaker 1: and also it's like way before traffic lights were invented,
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  Speaker 1: so it's really confusing how this game got its name,
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  Speaker 1: but doesn't matter. They actually all know how to play anyway.
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  Speaker 1: At one end of the playing field is a nasty
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  Speaker 1: looking barracuda, and the players start on the other end,
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  Speaker 1: and when the barracuda turns its tail to word the players,
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  Speaker 1: they can rush forward, but when the barracouta turns around
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  Speaker 1: and looks at them, everyone has to stop in place,
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  Speaker 1: and if anyone is seen moving, they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: out of the game. And so the game begins. An Ariel,
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  Speaker 1: being a little uncertain, is kind of cautiously hanging to
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  Speaker 1: the back of the crowd and goes a little slower,
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  Speaker 1: which means it's easier for her to stop when the
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  Speaker 1: Barracouta begins to turn around, but some of the more
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  Speaker 1: enthusiastic participants are caught out, and that's when terrible things happen.
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  Speaker 1: Let see, when the fish and mur folk are caught out,
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  Speaker 1: they end up getting netted and dragged off by these
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  Speaker 1: nasty looking evil fish, and they're begging for mercy the
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  Speaker 1: whole time, but they are pulled into a giant cauldron
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  Speaker 1: that has a big, old heavy lid on it, and
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  Speaker 1: whatever else is in that cauldron can't be nice because
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  Speaker 1: the screaming inside doesn't last very long. Yikes. And so
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the game continues and Arial makes progress, but she falters
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  Speaker 1: at one point when she spots her friend Flounder, who's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: also apparently in the game. What are you doing here?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: She asks, and Flounder says, I want to be the
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  Speaker 1: lead in this upcoming movie called Finding Nemo, but I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: totally botched my audition, says Flounder. Well, the two manage
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  Speaker 1: to make it across the finish line just before time
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: is up on the game, but by that time, more
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  Speaker 1: than half of the playing field has been wiped out.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: So four D fifty six players began, but just over
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  Speaker 1: two D remain, and then we go through a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch of different games. Uh, there's sharks and minnows. There's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: a belly flop competition. The Marco Polo contest is particularly lively,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and each game whittles down more players until it's down
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: to just a few and now it's time for the
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  Speaker 1: squid game. What is the squid game? Well, it's simple.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a box that represents a castle and that's
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  Speaker 1: where the defending team stands. And you've also got a
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  Speaker 1: triangle that's at the top of the castle, but this
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  Speaker 1: overlaps a circle which is the headquarters for the off ends.
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  Speaker 1: And then in the middle of the castle, you've got
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  Speaker 1: a pair of rectangles that almost touch, but they don't
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  Speaker 1: quite touch. There's a gap in the middle, and if
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  Speaker 1: you swim across this pair of rectangles you get all
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  Speaker 1: your fins, but otherwise you have to only use half
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: your fins. Also, the offensive team needs to get over
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  Speaker 1: to the bit where the triangle in the circle on
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  Speaker 1: the other end overlap, but don't touch the lines or
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  Speaker 1: you're out. Simple, right, Okay, No, it's it's actually pretty
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  Speaker 1: complicated and it's likely to result in lots of bruises
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: and abrations. Are maybe worse, but this is actually a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: game they play in South Korea, so that's crazy. Anyway,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Ariel ends up having to play against Flounder because they're
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: put on separate teams, and her team wins, so she
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: watches as Flounders netted and shoved into the cauldron, and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: it's all very sad, but Ariel wins her legs and
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: so she turns into a human. At the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the ocean, she rapidly swims up because she can't breathe
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: water anymore, and she gets up on the beach and collapses,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: and she's found by a handsome prince who takes her
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: to his castle, and there she has brought to dinner,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: which she is told as a special treat because the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: kitchen managed to get hold of this amazing stew made
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: by this local artisan and it's supposed to have a
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: lot of everything in it. And Ariel goes quiet with
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: dread as she sees what is clearly a fish stew
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: served to her, and in her bowl is a little
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: yellow fin, a little fin that looks like it might
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: have belonged to her friend Flounder. Oh, and then Ariel
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: dies from the bens because she went up from the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: deep to the surface too quickly. The end, Louise, Jonathan
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: what I can't take it? I mean, based on the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: tone of Squid Game, I felt like that's the only
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: ending I could get to. That's that's appropriate. Also, there
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: was such good humor in there. I love the fact
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: that Flounder botched his little Nemo audition. Really amazing job,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: really amazing job. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, I spent way
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: too much time on my Poor Unfortunate Souls parody and so, uh,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you might have noticed that the ending was a little
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: rushed there, and that's what happens when Jonathan spends way
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: too much time trying to think of terrible song parodies.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Oh man, well now you're making me rethink my all
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: song parodies episode, Jonathan to keep it so wow, Yeah,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: we might we might need to have like a month's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: worth of lead time and that, Hey, that actually reminds
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: me before we go into our whole ultro spiel. We're
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: gonna be off for a couple of weeks, and the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: reason for that is that I will actually be out
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: of town and we'll be unable to record for the
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: following two Fridays because my vacation just happens to span
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: those next to Fridays, So I wanted to let all
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: of you know, including Ariel, that that was going to happen.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: But if if you're new to the show, there's lots
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: of old episodes you can listen to. If you're not
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: new to the show, but you caught us when we
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: started an I heeart, there's still a lot of old
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: episodes you could listen to, or you could check out
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: our video series on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, there's some really
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: fun videos, like every now and then I'll go back
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: can watch them because enough time has passed where like
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: I can't, like I remember generally the jokes that we did,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: but I don't remember exactly. And the timing on some
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: of those episodes is absolutely brilliant, like just the the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: amount of time between setup and punchline. Um, And whenever
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: I see that, I think, gosh, we used to be funny.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I want to do that again. What the videos again?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I would love to. We'll have to. What we'll have
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: to do is we'll have to get together and figure
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: out like the best way to do it, and maybe
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: even right like several so that we can maybe batch
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: produce a few so that way we're not because obviously
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: the challenge there is that you produce one, you release it,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: and then weeks go by before you can do it again. Uh.
• 1:06:48
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• 1:06:55
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• 1:06:59
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  Speaker 1: And until next time, I have been Jonathan, I pull
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