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- 0:02Speaker 1: Oh, gambling, big problem. Sean Macrloff's going for broke. It's
- 0:06Speaker 1: premiering tomorrow night, eight pm on ABC TV.
- 0:09Speaker 2: You can string the whole series.
- 0:10Speaker 1: And I have you gambling and how bad it is? Well,
- 0:14Speaker 1: we're going to find out. We've got Sean macrloff on
- 0:15Speaker 1: air right now. Hello, he was on air.
- 0:21Speaker 3: I dropped out, Sean, Hello, am I here.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what you did, but that's oh.
- 0:29Speaker 4: I thought you.
- 0:30Speaker 2: I thought you sort of.
- 0:31Speaker 4: I thought you dumped me. I said something, you said
- 0:35Speaker 4: gambling possible. You said the G word. Well, I'm going
- 0:39Speaker 4: to say, can I correct you?
- 0:40Speaker 5: It's I'm not assuming that gambling is bad. Carrying in
- 0:43Speaker 5: with an open mind on this series. I've got three
- 0:45Speaker 5: episodes to phil. I can't come in here with an agenda.
- 0:49Speaker 3: You can't peak on day one. No, Sean, I just
- 0:52Speaker 3: wanted to say hi, because do you remember we did
- 0:53Speaker 3: an episode of Thank God You're here together?
- 0:56Speaker 5: I do, indeed, and it was that's that's that's over
- 0:59Speaker 5: teen years ago. And I'm surprised that I am surprised
- 1:02Speaker 5: both of us.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Remember, I know.
- 1:05Speaker 5: Transit, it's so transactional that the world of television.
- 1:08Speaker 4: I know, I'm surprised. Yeah, anyway, nice to see you too.
- 1:13Speaker 3: I know that was so much fun that show.
- 1:14Speaker 1: It wouldn't been much funnier if you said no, I
- 1:16Speaker 1: don't know.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Who I know.
- 1:18Speaker 3: Imagine who are you play?
- 1:21Speaker 2: I don't remember Josh Thomas.
- 1:22Speaker 4: I actually ran into him recently and he's grown up.
- 1:26Speaker 4: It was a child was look at him now, he's
- 1:29Speaker 4: like fifty three.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Sure going for broke that you you're going into dangerous
- 1:35Speaker 3: territory here, right, because I love this. I love that
- 1:38Speaker 3: you're unpacking it and you're really doing something that really
- 1:41Speaker 3: only the ABC could do because everybody else is on
- 1:44Speaker 3: the pay roll.
- 1:45Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, Look I think I think you're right.
- 1:49Speaker 2: And look that's the nature of it.
- 1:50Speaker 5: I mean everyone's got a vested interest, a lot of
- 1:52Speaker 5: corporate Australia and government as well.
- 1:55Speaker 2: And maybe you're right.
- 1:56Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the ABC is the only broadcast is stupid
- 2:00Speaker 5: enough to actually, you know, bite the hand that potentially
- 2:03Speaker 5: could have fed it.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Now it's Sean.
- 2:05Speaker 1: I know you said you're going to keep an open mind,
- 2:07Speaker 1: but I'm guessing a lot of bad things come out.
- 2:08Speaker 1: But what about you personally? Have you ever gambled yourself
- 2:11Speaker 1: or are you a non gambler.
- 2:14Speaker 5: Without making a decision about it. I am somebody who
- 2:16Speaker 5: doesn't gamble. I did it once when I was about
- 2:19Speaker 5: twenty two and with my with my now wife, and
- 2:23Speaker 5: we were just going out boyfriend and girlfriend didn't have
- 2:25Speaker 5: any money, and somebody said to us, oh, would you
- 2:27Speaker 5: like to come and see Starlight Express.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Of course you know the answer is no.
- 2:31Speaker 5: But we ended up going and we had to pay
- 2:34Speaker 5: for the tickets about one hundred and twenty bucks, so
- 2:36Speaker 5: we did, which we didn't have. So we I took
- 2:38Speaker 5: twenty dollars into the casino and bed on roulette and
- 2:42Speaker 5: if I said, look, if we make if we get
- 2:44Speaker 5: the money, if we get the enough money to buy
- 2:45Speaker 5: the tickets, we'll walk out. And we did and that
- 2:48Speaker 5: was it. And that's the last time I've done it.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Okay, the only person in the history of gambling to
- 2:52Speaker 1: walk away his winter stop. Well don't till like sports
- 2:55Speaker 1: bet and stuff, right, it's huge. Everyone's all on the
- 2:58Speaker 1: gambling apps like Alfie, the growth thank you you yeah,
- 3:00Speaker 1: constantly on it.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Yeah, what have you found?
- 3:03Speaker 1: The technology is a problem in the series.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Well, we did examine that.
- 3:07Speaker 5: I mean I was very conscious of that being around
- 3:10Speaker 5: because I've got three sons and they're in their twenties.
- 3:13Speaker 2: And that's how I came across.
- 3:14Speaker 5: I thought, oh, well, I have really not not that
- 3:16Speaker 5: they were asking my advice, but I really had no
- 3:18Speaker 5: advice for them. If they did, if they treated me
- 3:21Speaker 5: like a real father and said, what do we do?
- 3:23Speaker 2: Dad, you know you're a very wise man.
- 3:25Speaker 5: And it's a bit like I did one on I
- 3:26Speaker 5: did one on an alcohol a long time ago, and
- 3:28Speaker 5: I don't drink, so I'd had no advice for them.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Then when they're in their teens, so.
- 3:32Speaker 5: You know what I do is I go and make
- 3:34Speaker 5: a documentary and they say you watch this, Then I
- 3:37Speaker 5: don't have to I don't have to perform any fatherly doies. Well,
- 3:40Speaker 5: I reckon the Pokey's right, you must look at Pokey's.
- 3:43Speaker 4: God, people love the Pokeys.
- 3:45Speaker 5: And in New South Wales, I always see this stat
- 3:48Speaker 5: that New South Wales has more Pokeys per person than anywhere.
- 3:52Speaker 4: Else in the world except for Las Vegas. Except I
- 3:56Speaker 4: think they're catching up. I think they're catching up with them. Yeah,
- 3:59Speaker 4: that's that.
- 3:59Speaker 5: We cover that in the first episode, because that is
- 4:01Speaker 5: the first place people think of, and it might even
- 4:04Speaker 5: be the first place people are introduced to gambling, you know,
- 4:07Speaker 5: in their lives. And yeah, so we went and spent
- 4:10Speaker 5: a bit of time. There was an RSL that very
- 4:12Speaker 5: kindly opens its doors for us. You know, a lot
- 4:15Speaker 5: of suspicion around anything to do with the ABC. They're
- 4:18Speaker 5: fair enough. So I spent a day with Maureen who
- 4:21Speaker 5: goes there quite regularly, and she was telling me how
- 4:23Speaker 5: it works and having a.
- 4:25Speaker 4: Chat to her. So so this is the nature of
- 4:27Speaker 4: the show.
- 4:28Speaker 5: We go, I go into their world and spend some
- 4:32Speaker 5: time with people who are enjoying it or not enjoying it,
- 4:35Speaker 5: and we try and get a level view of the
- 4:38Speaker 5: whole thing.
- 4:39Speaker 3: It's funny because we're so quick to judge, right, you know,
- 4:42Speaker 3: you I'm blowing your money on the Pokeys. But I mean,
- 4:45Speaker 3: we've all got our little dirty habits, right, Like I
- 4:47Speaker 3: have ADHD and I need my dopamine hit, and I'll
- 4:50Speaker 3: admit that I've got lots of addictions. But you know,
- 4:53Speaker 3: when it's money and it's gambling, you see those signs
- 4:56Speaker 3: on the back of toilets, and it's really sad because
- 4:58Speaker 3: like Mum or Dad is some times gambling the rent.
- 5:01Speaker 3: They're gambling and that's heartbreaking. Families split up because of this.
- 5:04Speaker 3: So it's kind of it's an important thing to unpack shorn.
- 5:08Speaker 5: It is, and it's and it's it's able to be
- 5:11Speaker 5: kept more of a secret than most other addictions. That
- 5:14Speaker 5: was the thing we did discover, was that that the
- 5:16Speaker 5: apps you mentioned the fact we've got that little that
- 5:19Speaker 5: little rectangle in our pocket and it's there most of
- 5:22Speaker 5: the time.
- 5:22Speaker 2: If it's not in our pocket, it's in our hand,
- 5:24Speaker 2: and that's usually where it lives.
- 5:26Speaker 5: And so yeah, look, just a moment alone, We'll enable
- 5:30Speaker 5: you to bet on a horse race in Abu Dhabi,
- 5:32Speaker 5: whereas in the old days you actually have to get
- 5:34Speaker 5: on a bus and go to the race course.
- 5:36Speaker 1: And you know, you can better be go to the
- 5:38Speaker 1: tab I mean, we were talking about the fact that
- 5:40Speaker 1: you could bet on the next James Bond before Hey, Sean,
- 5:42Speaker 1: before we let you go. Was there anything good you
- 5:45Speaker 1: found out about gambling?
- 5:47Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 5:47Speaker 5: Look, you know, I spent a whole afternoon in a
- 5:50Speaker 5: bingo hole with a lady, with a lady who's like
- 5:54Speaker 5: one hundred and four, and we had a great time.
- 5:58Speaker 5: So I can see, I can see how it can work.
- 6:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I can bingo bringing people together.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Not real gambling, is that?
- 6:04Speaker 2: Hey?
- 6:04Speaker 1: Sean Micrlof's gone from Broken premiers tomorrow night at eight
- 6:08Speaker 1: on ABC Sean. You can stream the whole thing on
- 6:11Speaker 1: ABC iView. Good on your mate, Thanks a lot,