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Football at Four: What Can We Expect From The New Eagles OC? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yesterday and today. By the way, if you didn't hear earlier, today,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Grizzard is the new pass game coordinator with the Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 1: He was the offensive coordinator this year. He was the
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  Speaker 1: pass game coordinator last year. He was a one and
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  Speaker 1: done Buccaneer play caller this year, and he took over
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  Speaker 1: an offense that hey look in twenty twenty four with
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  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen. It got Liam Cohen a head coaching job.
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  Speaker 1: They were one of the best offenses in football in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Last year, he takes over the offense
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  Speaker 1: that was one of the best passing teams in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four. They fall down to number twenty two in
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  Speaker 1: yards per attempt. At number twenty in yards last season.
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  Speaker 1: So Grizzard did take a little step back. Why well,
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  Speaker 1: they had offensive line issues. Mike Evans got hurt, Godwin
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  Speaker 1: got hurt. The running back Bucky Irving got hurt. So
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  Speaker 1: Josh Grizzard comes in, go back to what you do. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's the pass game coordinator, and then you've got Sean
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  Speaker 1: Manion who will now be the offensive coordinator. He will
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  Speaker 1: call the plays and Eagles have a completely new look
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  Speaker 1: in that offensive playroom whether or not Nick Sirianni, though,
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  Speaker 1: we'll have a big say. We're gonna get into that
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  Speaker 1: with Adam Kaplan here on the Sports Bast Live on
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  Speaker 1: ninety seven three ESPN. Of course, it is football at
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  Speaker 1: four on this Friday edition. Let's see what Adam Kaplan
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  Speaker 1: thinks about the decision by Philadelphia and what we can
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  Speaker 1: expect from Sean Manion as the coordinator. Josh Gizzard is
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  Speaker 1: also in the building as well. Both guys Adam interviewed
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  Speaker 1: for the job, but it is Manion who wins out.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be the play caller. Gazard will be the pass
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  Speaker 1: game coordinator. Kind of an interesting turn of events all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good for Gizard to be willing to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes guys are hurt by it and they're like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. Hell of that hell of that team.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they'll just move on. But it's really interesting
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  Speaker 2: because I don't I'm of than the West Coast offend twist.
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  Speaker 2: They both are are totally engrossed in. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how much crossover there is, but I got you know,
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of interesting information on this situation
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  Speaker 2: because I've talked to a lot of coaches over the
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  Speaker 2: last week on some of the candidates. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: covered thirty two teams, not one, but some things came
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  Speaker 2: up and Manion really became a hot name forty eight
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  Speaker 2: hours before he was hired. We Like I said in
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  Speaker 2: our live stream last night, if you would have asked
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  Speaker 2: me a week ago, I would say, come on, dude,
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  Speaker 2: Sean Manning can out of here. He's only coached two years.
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  Speaker 2: But when sarted some of the dominoes that the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: had a list, many was on it. He was further
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  Speaker 2: down because Brian Dable, as I told you three weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: was their number one guy. It just didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel. When I say that, Mike McDaniel had never
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  Speaker 2: considered it. So is religious stable and day Ball, as
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  Speaker 2: I told you, was never coming here because the Titans
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  Speaker 2: put the major full court press on him. He was
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  Speaker 2: just he used the Eagles as a couple other teams
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  Speaker 2: as a backup plan if something fell through, but it
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  Speaker 2: was never going to fall through. So Dable is now
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  Speaker 2: safely in Tennessee. And I give the Eagles credit, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: They wanted to be Ford thinking they went to the
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  Speaker 2: Mike Holmgren Tree in twenty in nineteen ninety nine, no one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean when they did this with Andy Reid. I
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  Speaker 2: remember this is in the infancy of the internet. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: are they out of them? Who is Andy Reid? Right?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Ironically enough, he held the same position
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  Speaker 1: that Sean Mannino held in Green.
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  Speaker 2: Bay right now, Andy and never called plays and never
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  Speaker 2: been a coordinator. So shot now the difference is Andy,
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  Speaker 2: there's a major difference anty you've been coaching for a
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  Speaker 2: while where Mannion is not. He just finished the second season.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the thing about this being in this market
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  Speaker 2: and being the pressure cooker like you you're going to
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  Speaker 2: lot several dozen coaches have worked in this market. They're
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  Speaker 2: aware of it, like they're aware of the demands of
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  Speaker 2: the job. They're man there. Especially if you're coaching offense.
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  Speaker 2: They know what Jeffrey Lorie wants, which they all, by
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  Speaker 2: the way, they sign up for that. Most coaches have
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  Speaker 2: no problem. But they love that the owner is demanding
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to world class offense. They actually like that.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes the expectators are not realistic. But the scheme
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  Speaker 2: mic is going to change. It just is it will.
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  Speaker 2: It has to when it's going to it's not being
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  Speaker 2: forced it it is. He just knows West Coast they're
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  Speaker 2: not running ran a scheme anywhere they can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: That's like Kellen Moore came in with a different scheme,
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  Speaker 2: which was kind of by the way, it was similar.
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  Speaker 2: I was told to Sirianni's it's different from the West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: Kellen moorees as a matter of fact, because he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: coach the West Coast. That was That was Mike McCarthy's
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  Speaker 2: excuse to get rid of Kellen late when Kellen left Dallas,
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  Speaker 2: because he Mike wanted the offense back and he got it.
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  Speaker 2: But now shar Mannion, who's more of a disciple of
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  Speaker 2: LA Floor, I excuse me while he've coached for LA Floor.
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  Speaker 2: But Willie McVeigh, because remember he was drafting the floor system,
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  Speaker 2: he played pretty much only in it. But what I
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  Speaker 2: find interesting is, you know people have asked me already
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  Speaker 2: are they going to run and use a fullback? Well,
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  Speaker 2: the floor that we coach with Kyle Shanahan before it
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  Speaker 2: does not use a fullback, neither does McVeigh Mike, So
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  Speaker 2: could we see a fullback? Probably not, don't know for sure. Right,
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  Speaker 2: but probably not so.
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  Speaker 1: The schemes will, in your opinion, look a lot different
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  Speaker 1: than what we've seen in the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: It will now understand a couple of things here when
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  Speaker 2: you put this is the way coaches explain this to me.
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  Speaker 2: When you're putting together your scheme. Look, you if it's
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  Speaker 2: West Coast, if it's non West Coast, that that doesn't change.
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  Speaker 2: You have to run what you know. You can't run
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  Speaker 2: what you don't know. That doesn't It doesn't work that
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  Speaker 2: any other way. That'll never change in the history of
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  Speaker 2: natural football league. You can't run if you're particularly if
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  Speaker 2: you're your first time coordinator, if you've only played and
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  Speaker 2: coach in the West Coast offense, that's what you're running.
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  Speaker 2: That's not even up to discussion, like that's what you
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  Speaker 2: run now. When it comes to personnel groupings, this is
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  Speaker 2: a big deal. This comes down to the personnel that
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  Speaker 2: you inherit. Most coaches will tell you that you may
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  Speaker 2: come in as Kellen Moore wanted to do. Kellen Moore
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be a heavy eleven personnel team and some
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  Speaker 2: ten personnel. Now things change when they sign Saquon Barkley,
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  Speaker 2: and they did they weren't very deep at receiver, and
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  Speaker 2: to Kellen's credit, he coached to what he has and
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  Speaker 2: that's that's. I know. The passing game wasn't very good.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fact I'm going to argue against it. But
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  Speaker 2: they also won a Super Bowl. They found a way
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  Speaker 2: to make it work. Coaching is about adapting. Now, could
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  Speaker 2: Shawn many an adapt? Is aj Brown going to be here?
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  Speaker 2: Who's going to be the third receiver? You and I
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  Speaker 2: talked to Mike. How many times do I talk to
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  Speaker 2: you about this? One of the new things that they
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  Speaker 2: have to do is they have to get the third
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  Speaker 2: receiver involved. It's embarrassing. One of the many embarrassing problems
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  Speaker 2: with this offense for years now is a lack of
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  Speaker 2: diversity in terms of personnel groupings and using a third receiver.
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  Speaker 2: It's one thing to play eleven personnel. It's one thing.
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  Speaker 2: And in this nonsense little excuse, well serr. And it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Aja has to get in devices, got to
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  Speaker 2: get it and got it, has to get it. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we know that, But there are plenty of offenses where
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  Speaker 2: teams have two good receivers at a good tight end
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  Speaker 2: and the third receiver gets involved. So that was always
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  Speaker 2: an excuse for me for Nick, he just could never
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  Speaker 2: figure out within this offense and whoever's calling the plays
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  Speaker 2: is kind of kind of pigeonholed. So to me, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at this thing, if it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: what we think, it's gonna be more McVeigh than anything
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  Speaker 2: McVeigh up until this past season, if they didn't leave
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  Speaker 2: eleven personnel, which is three receivers, one back and win
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  Speaker 2: tight end, they were near the top. Now, this is
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  Speaker 2: the first year in mcveigh's career the eleven personnel. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what happened other than he they had a
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  Speaker 2: ton of tight ends on the roster to four guys
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  Speaker 2: who they could use, and they took turns Fergus in
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  Speaker 2: the second round and they played a ton of twelve
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  Speaker 2: and even some thirteen personnel, which is three tight ends. Look,
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  Speaker 2: you can evolve, but again, Mannion's rooter clearly in McVeigh.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and we'll see how they look different and how
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  Speaker 1: the personnel usage will be different as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do you get more variety of the running game. I mean, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we talked a lot about last year. How about giving
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  Speaker 1: Bigsby a couple more touches. Maybe you do see a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more rotation and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So Josh Gizzard, now he comes from the
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  Speaker 2: McDaniel slash Shadohan tree. Now they use a full back.
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  Speaker 2: They used to full back. They've always used a fullback
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  Speaker 2: with Kyle, with Kyle Yuschek, and who's who's the highest
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  Speaker 2: paid full back in NFL history. Now I get that
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  Speaker 2: Grizzard didn't coote for Shanahan. But the system that Gizzard
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  Speaker 2: play coached in that he learned it in because he
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  Speaker 2: was actually I don't know if you know this, he was, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he was on McDaniel staff. He was actually in Miami
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  Speaker 2: two years before McDaniel got there, and he kept him smartly.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they know each other. And then
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  Speaker 2: then he learned the McDaniel system. Now, one thing I'll
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  Speaker 2: always tell you, Mike, and I've learned this the hard way.
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  Speaker 2: Not every disciple runs it the same way, and then
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  Speaker 2: the master does like it did Not every Fanjo de
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  Speaker 2: Separate runs it just like Victim's that that you never
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  Speaker 2: run in exactly the same. Andy Reid Well, was he
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  Speaker 2: departure with Mike Holmgren, He just was Michael, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to Mike Shanahan so kind of the same way. Shanahan
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  Speaker 2: was really really big time timing base and his son
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  Speaker 2: Kyle the same, and Kyle's taking it to the extreme.
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  Speaker 2: I just think it's cool, Mike. Now, personnel usage typically
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  Speaker 2: now that Kyle Shanahan almost his entire career, likes to
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  Speaker 2: use just one back very little in the second back
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  Speaker 2: Brian Robinson, who they acquired and from the Commanders the
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  Speaker 2: Niners did so he would spell McCaffrey a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the point you made on Bigsby. Will they
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  Speaker 2: use Bigsby a little bit more that I now? I
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  Speaker 2: know we could be full to o Ta's and training camp.
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  Speaker 2: We've been full before. It's one thing, Mike, I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: you brought that up. That's actually in like my top
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  Speaker 2: twenty questions about a first time play caller in Manion.
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  Speaker 2: How does he see a rotation because Matt Lafleur loves
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  Speaker 2: loves to rotate his backs. Now, yes, a little bit
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  Speaker 2: less with Josh Shacobs lately, but he did when Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Jones was there. It was Jones on third, it was
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  Speaker 2: Jones is a change up and he was a lead
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  Speaker 2: back and then they would have they would try to
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  Speaker 2: put a power back in then, and once Jacobs came
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  Speaker 2: in there, because of his contract and just because of
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  Speaker 2: his size, he needed more work, so he changed it up.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll interested to see how Sean Mannion sees this.
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  Speaker 3: Thing, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So the influences that Mannion brings to the table are
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  Speaker 1: very interesting because he's been around multiple interesting offensive minds
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  Speaker 1: as a player and obviously one as a coach with
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  Speaker 1: LA Floor, but he did play in LA with the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: and he also spends some time with Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: so he's got a lot of very high profile minds
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  Speaker 1: that he has been around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, by the ways, that's the one that I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to mention is O'Connell. Again, O'Connell was a former
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  Speaker 2: non play calling OC for the Rams. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty much MG. But I'm really interested to see
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  Speaker 2: what Josh Gizzard, who's going to be the past game coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: do they incorporate the Shanahan concepts. Shanahan is more twelve personnel,
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  Speaker 2: way more than the MCS than Sean McVay. They both coached.
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  Speaker 2: It's look, it's always who you're the way it's been
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  Speaker 2: explaining to me for twenty five years. Your scheme and
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  Speaker 2: your personnel users is based sole not solely mostly on
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  Speaker 2: your on your most your biggest influences. So that's why
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  Speaker 2: we're going to see a lot of McVeigh. Now again, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: Then we'll move on in a second from the subject.
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  Speaker 2: If they don't have a quality third receiver, now you
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  Speaker 2: could force it, like God gave an example in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty Brian Schottenheimer with Russell Wilson, Wilson's best half of
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  Speaker 2: the season by far, when he had twenty eight passing
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  Speaker 2: touchdowns games for Schottenheimer. Schattenheimer and David Moore as this
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  Speaker 2: third receiver. Jeff and I laugh about this. He was
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  Speaker 2: going to use literally a tackling dummy is a third receiver.
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  Speaker 2: Like he just is, like, I'm going eleven personnel, we're
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  Speaker 2: going spread, and I'm just going to do this. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of coaches don't agree with that. That when you
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  Speaker 2: force it, that's going to be. Because we know about
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  Speaker 2: Manning because he's never recalled plays, he's only coached for
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  Speaker 2: two years, he's only run a room. This is very
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  Speaker 2: important for educational purposes. When you're looking to evaluate a
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  Speaker 2: coach an experience. He doesn't have to be fifty years old.
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  Speaker 2: He could be thirty seven or thirty five. But if
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  Speaker 2: he's coached for eight years, that's fine. This guy's only
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  Speaker 2: coach two years. He's only a run a room one year.
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  Speaker 2: And David Blau, for instance, who's similar. He's now the
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  Speaker 2: Washington Commandos OC he's in his third year in coaching.
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  Speaker 2: He never ran a room full time. He was the
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  Speaker 2: interim quarterbacks coach. So that's also a game for Washington.
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  Speaker 2: How about these two teams, the Commandos and Eagles going
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  Speaker 2: very very young and inexperienced on their offensive Cordnator choices.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and the Giants still don't have a co order.
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  Speaker 1: Also keep an eye on that. Lastly, when we look
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  Speaker 1: at Sean mannon two years as a coach, but the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles jump in here because he's obviously got to be
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  Speaker 1: viewed around the NFL pretty highly.
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  Speaker 2: I did so, Mike, I want to say Friday, So
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Wednesday morning. I talk to people from
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  Speaker 2: around the league who are connected to many and they've
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  Speaker 2: either coached him been around him. Really Ford thinking guy
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  Speaker 2: sees the game differently. He's another guy like Davis Webb,
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  Speaker 2: who I will bet the house will be a head
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  Speaker 2: coach some day. He's a Jeryman quarterback. Davis Webb is
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  Speaker 2: now the OC for Denver. You kind of know it
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  Speaker 2: when you talk to people when you know that they're
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  Speaker 2: going like Sean Man, you barely played in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: He was in terms of being on the field. Is
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  Speaker 2: you know, Mike, he's a jury. He was basically number three,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a number two, but mostly number three.
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  Speaker 2: But you kind of know when you talk to people
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  Speaker 2: that they're when they're super smart. This guy's really sharp.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't know about a coach until he's under pressure.
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  Speaker 2: He deals with and we haven't even talked about this. This
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  Speaker 2: will be the probably the last subject which could be
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  Speaker 2: well boil. We'll give you the Cliff Knownes version, folks.
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  Speaker 2: This would take twenty minutes if we really had time.
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  Speaker 2: It will take a minute and a half. He's got
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  Speaker 2: to develop a relationship with Jalen Hurts and they have
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  Speaker 2: to figure out is are they going to bring the
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  Speaker 2: run game back? Boy? Was that missing last season? Mike.
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  Speaker 2: That not only was their offensive line terrible, mostly in
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  Speaker 2: the run game. But don't you think if they would
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  Speaker 2: have gotten Hurts more involved and maybe it would have
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  Speaker 2: been a little bit better. I don't know. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know what happened. Like I know, there's a lot of speculation. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: Hurts wants a new deal. He refused to run like people,
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  Speaker 2: Like anyone would know that, people just slope leap against
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  Speaker 2: the wall and they think it will stick. Nobody knows.
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  Speaker 2: Why is it just because they were so was he
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  Speaker 2: beat up? Well, he wasn't on the injury report ever
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  Speaker 2: last season, by the way, for the first time in
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  Speaker 2: any season that we're aware of. We just don't know,
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  Speaker 2: But you got to think they're going to bring that
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  Speaker 2: back mic or at least they should consider it. We
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  Speaker 2: don't know for sure. That's one of the many things.
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  Speaker 2: And Jeff Stalin also, which is on my list here
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  Speaker 2: in closing. You know he's been the run game coordinator
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  Speaker 2: as we know in the past. Is you're going to
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  Speaker 2: have that title. How much he's going to the blocking
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  Speaker 2: schemes They got to get there together. Of the blocking
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  Speaker 2: schemes because West Coast offenses are mostly zoned. They'll run
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  Speaker 2: some gap I installed, but it's mostly zone. That's not
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  Speaker 2: the way Stout sees it, but it's got to change.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of intrigue. Mike, I know we
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  Speaker 2: could be full to know ta is Mike. We again,
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  Speaker 2: I really look forward to going and seeing this what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like. And as I told our patron members
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  Speaker 2: last night, if they come out like we saw in
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: OTAs of twenty twenty four with Kellam Moore, just completely ignored,
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  Speaker 2: it means nothing. When you're installing a new offense, of course,
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  Speaker 2: it's not going to look good. It's just I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why people put that stuff out there. I told
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  Speaker 2: people two years ago just ignore it, and I was right,
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  Speaker 2: Just relax, let it flow. I know there are a
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: lot of people who are really met at the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: for horging to experience coach like this. Well they have,
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  Speaker 2: They've got least on our they've had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: luck on it and they're not hitting home runs all
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  Speaker 2: the time, but they started doing with Andy Reid. They've
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  Speaker 2: done it over the years. Look, they missed them sean
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  Speaker 2: to side, that's a fact, but more often than not,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Harry Roseman and Jeffrey Lurie has been right. And then
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: when Joe Banner was there, Joe was heavily involved in it,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: so let's see what happens. We called down the middle.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: We don't root for anybody. We just we're trying to
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: be fair about this. I think some of the OIR
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: YouTube commenters are a little bit too hard on it.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Now there are a lot of people are positive, Mike,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: and I don't know about your storms of texts and
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, but it seems to be a little
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: bit more positivity though. Then I also anticipated, which is
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I think yesterday at first it was kind of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: like wait what, and then today with the grizzard like
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: kind of adding that to the mix, having those married together,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I think it was kind of a little bit more
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: intriguing of like, hey, they interviewed both of these guys
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and got them both and they both come from very
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, successful offensive backgrounds in terms of
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: what their style may look like. So we shall see.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: It'll be a free agency coming up. We've got the draft,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: OTAs is gonna start happening quick. Inside the Birds podcast
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: will have plenty more on the off season. Adam Kaplan
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: will be with us for Football at four in San Francisco.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you friend.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I remember, it just seems like yesterday. What
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: super do we What was the last time the Super
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Bowl was there?
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I've just I have never been to San Francisco before.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Well, oh you know what, I was still at the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: ESPN that I think. I think because someone for Philly
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Radio was tagging along with me, and I remember going
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to parties with this guy, and I just remember that
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: it was super cool to at night Mike b what
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: just understand it's gonna be sixties during the day, probably
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: in the low forties. I was at that Super Bowl
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: in Phoenix when everybody got sick. You know, it was great.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody looks at think Devans forecast. I'm obsessive with weather.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: As people probably know from listen to our show. Always
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: pack warmly. It's it's the Moscone Center. I've been that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: to that before. It's a really good thing that And
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you did I read this right in your email? Are
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: you going to the Warriors game?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yes? We're Tuesday night. We're going Sixers Warriors. You want
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: to go?
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yes? So the cool thing is actually, oh wow, you
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: got to invite me, but real quick, well we didn't.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all going if you want to go. Let
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: us know, go man.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, it's it's near the it's
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: near the wharf area. I think it's not too bad,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: it's not. I know it's I know exactly. I've looked
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: it up before. I've never been there, because I bet
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: I've seen the Giants play a bunch there over the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: years when I go to the train camp out there,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: when the Raiders and Niners were practicing, you know, obviously
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: in the Bear and there it was just the Niners.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: But looking forward to seeing Mike and we will have
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: fun next week.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some great guests already lined up. I know.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: We have some more things that we are in the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: pipeline UH and Adam will be out there so he'll
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: be joining us for his UH for throughout the days
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and we'll be talking to a bunch of people and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff's already happened.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: But yes, if you want to go to the sixer game,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: let us know. We haven't got our tickets yet.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I will, I will email you. Thanks man,