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- 0:07Hello and welcome to the ESVS podcast. I'm Joana
- 0:12Ferreira and today we're going to explore the
- 0:15role of compression therapy in chronic venous
- 0:17disease. This episode is supported by Urgo Medical.
- 0:21As always, the content and editorial independence
- 0:24of this podcast remain entirely under the control
- 0:28of the ESVS podcast team. Chronic venous disease
- 0:31is one of the most prevalent vascular conditions
- 0:34worldwide, affecting 40 % of the general population
- 0:38in its various forms, ranging from telangiectasis
- 0:41and varicose veins to the most advanced stage
- 0:45venous leg ulcers. Despite this enormous clinical
- 0:49burden, One of our oldest and still one of the
- 0:53most effective therapeutic tools remains compression
- 0:56therapy, which is recommended by the 2022 ESVS
- 1:01guidelines to reduce symptoms across the different
- 1:04stages of the CAP classification. To discuss
- 1:08this important topic, it is a great honour to
- 1:11welcome Professor Melina Vega de Ceniga. Welcome,
- 1:15Professor Melina de Ceniga. Would you like to
- 1:18briefly introduce yourselves to our listeners?
- 1:21Hello. It's lovely to be here again in the ESVS
- 1:24podcast, but on the other side. I am an angiologist
- 1:28and vascular surgeon from the north of Spain.
- 1:30I am currently the head of department in the
- 1:33University Hospital of Galeca, Osansolo, and
- 1:35I have an academic background as well. I teach
- 1:38pre -graduates in the University of the Basque
- 1:40Country and post -graduate courses for trainees.
- 1:44I was strongly involved in the ESVS podcast from
- 1:46the start in 2019, pre -COVID. Seems like a lifetime
- 1:50ago, doesn't it? Yeah. And we invited you because
- 1:53you have an extensive expertise in chronic venous
- 1:57disease and compression therapy. So starting
- 2:00talking about venous leg ulcer. We know that
- 2:03compression therapy is recommended to improve
- 2:06ulcer healing. However, the compression therapy
- 2:09is used far beyond venous leg ulcer alone. Can
- 2:12you walk us, can you explain different indication
- 2:16for compression therapy in clinical practice?
- 2:21Well, there are quite a few clinical scenarios
- 2:23where compression therapy is a tool to use. Chronic
- 2:26venous disease at any clinical stage, including
- 2:29not only the cornerstone of conservative treatment,
- 2:32but also during pre - and post -operative period
- 2:35when invasive treatment of the superficial or
- 2:38the deep venous system is performed. But also
- 2:40venous thrombolic disease, and this includes
- 2:43the acute phase of deep vein thrombosis, post
- 2:46-thrombotic syndrome, superficial venous thrombosis,
- 2:49and the thromboprophylaxis. Compression is very
- 2:52typical for laparoscopic surgery and intensive
- 2:55care units, for example, and especially in the
- 2:58temporary time when maybe pharmacological thromboprophylaxis
- 3:02is contraindicated. There's also the scenario
- 3:04of traumatic open wounds and post -traumatic
- 3:07edema. Also, large limb hematomas, which may
- 3:11require or not drainage and often involve to
- 3:14skin necrosis and ulceration. And then we can
- 3:17also use compression therapy in limb edema of
- 3:20various autologies, including lymphedema, postoperative
- 3:24edema, even revascularization edema, occupational
- 3:27edema, orthostatic edema, and it can even help
- 3:30in lip edema. More recent evidence has extended
- 3:34indications to hypertensive ulcers. And even
- 3:38some diabetic foot ulcers that we will talk about
- 3:42later on. Well, that's a good point because it
- 3:44is not limited to vascular specialists. For example,
- 3:48a dermatologist recently told me that she frequently
- 3:51prescribed compression therapy in patients with
- 3:54skin infections such as cellulitis. I would like
- 3:58to add a comment on the way we prescribe compression
- 4:01therapy. And often it's just like that. the patient
- 4:04requires compression therapy in general. Well,
- 4:06we would not dream of prescribing antiplatelet
- 4:09therapy just like that in general, like which
- 4:12drug specifically or which dose. That's up to
- 4:15the primary care physician or the nurse or even
- 4:17the patient to figure out. We've prescribed antiplatelet
- 4:20therapy, right? However, we do that with compression
- 4:23therapy. We recommend compression therapy in
- 4:26general. And I think that's mainly because we
- 4:29don't know much about compression therapy. It's
- 4:32not detailed in our books. We don't receive specific
- 4:35training for compression therapy in the residency
- 4:37program. And although there are lots of courses
- 4:40and workshops on endovascular techniques, for
- 4:43example, or open surgery tips and tricks and
- 4:45so on, there are none for compression therapy
- 4:47for vascular surgeons. There are lots of courses
- 4:51for nurses. There are actually quite a few documents
- 4:53out there, including clinical practice guidelines
- 4:55for compression therapy, but somehow they don't
- 4:58reach vascular surgeons. Is it maybe because
- 5:01we have not shown any interest before? But this
- 5:04is not just knowledge and skills for nurses.
- 5:07Vascular surgeons must master them as well. Considering
- 5:10compression is an everyday therapeutic tool that
- 5:13we prescribe and use, and we've seen a whole
- 5:15list of indications, this is an important gap
- 5:17in our knowledge and in our training that must
- 5:19be filled. Learning the specific concepts, the
- 5:22scientific background, and there's a lot of evidence
- 5:24underlying compression therapy, and learning
- 5:27bandaging manual skills. I have to say that the
- 5:30ESBS has picked up on that gap and we are starting
- 5:33to address it, well, starting this podcast and
- 5:36hopefully adding workshops for vascular surgeons.
- 5:40Well, that's a really very interesting point.
- 5:44Can you help us and our listeners to better understand
- 5:49the benefits of compression therapy? How does
- 5:53the application of external pressure improve
- 5:56venous function? pathophysiological element in
- 6:00chronic venous disease is ambulatory venous hypertension.
- 6:04When venous valves fail and there is reflux or
- 6:08flow is obstructed or the calf muscle pump is
- 6:11dysfunctional, venous pressure remains elevated
- 6:13during walking instead of dropping as it normally
- 6:16would. Chronically, this leads to a cascade.
- 6:19Leukocyte endothelial adhesion, increased capillary
- 6:22permeability, extravasation of fluid and blood
- 6:26cells into the interstitium, tissue inflammation,
- 6:29capillary thrombosis, and ultimately, cutaneous
- 6:33infarction and ulceration. Now, edema of other
- 6:35etiologies also enters this vicious cycle of
- 6:38leukocyte endothelial adhesion, increased capillary
- 6:41permeability, extravasation of fluid and cells,
- 6:44and tissue inflammation. External compression
- 6:47counteracts this through several mechanisms governed
- 6:51by the Laplace and the Starling equations. So
- 6:53it reduces the ambulatory venous hypertension
- 6:56and it improves venous return, making the calf
- 6:59muscle pump more efficient. It reduces venous
- 7:02diameter, improving the function of incompetent
- 7:05valves. It reduces hydrostatic edema by increasing
- 7:08tissue pressure. And it improves lymphatic drainage.
- 7:12But it also improves microcirculation through
- 7:15reflex relaxation of the precapillary sphincters.
- 7:18And secondarily, it reduces venous wall and tissue
- 7:21inflammation. favoring the remodeling and wound
- 7:24healing, which is why it's also used in other
- 7:27alters that maybe don't have a venous origin.
- 7:30Compression therefore exerts its therapeutic
- 7:32effect during both the decongestion and the maintenance
- 7:35phases to achieve healing or to reduce recurrence.
- 7:40Well, so the mechanism is a little bit complex.
- 7:44And according to the ESGS guidelines on chronic
- 7:47venous disease, there is four compression modalities
- 7:50available, elastic compression stockings in elastic
- 7:53and elastic bandage, adjustable compression garments,
- 7:57and intermittent pneumatic compression. So let's
- 8:02focus on stockings and bandage. How do you choose
- 8:06in your clinical practice between stockings and
- 8:09bandage? So here again is knowledge that we should
- 8:13acquire. Now, there is a lot of interesting and
- 8:15evolving technology in compression therapy, built
- 8:18just like in endovascular technology, and we
- 8:20should actually keep up with the devices available,
- 8:23the evidence underlying each of these devices,
- 8:26and actually the evolution that's coming. Now,
- 8:28the choice of compression material depends on
- 8:31the clinical phase of the disease, some patient
- 8:34characteristics, and some practical factors.
- 8:37The devices that we currently have available
- 8:39are compression bandages, and these can be mono
- 8:43or multi -component, inelastic or elastic, graduated
- 8:46compression stockings of classes 1 to 4, self
- 8:49-adjustable inelastic garments, and intermittent
- 8:52pneumatic compression. Bandages are applied by
- 8:56trained professionals, usually nurses. Because
- 8:59they are the ones who see the patients on a regular,
- 9:01short -term basis. But we vascular surgeons can
- 9:04apply them in the ward, for example, when we
- 9:06have new nurses who might be inexperienced with
- 9:09bandaging, or in the outpatient clinic, or even
- 9:11in the OR right after surgery. We must acquire
- 9:15this manual skill for patient care and also for
- 9:17teaching, for teaching our trainees and teaching
- 9:19nurses if they need to be taught. So the bandages
- 9:23are very practical, as they can be left in place
- 9:25for several days, and they are preferable in
- 9:28the active ulcer phase. Also, in our hospital
- 9:31and our wound unit, we favor bandages for ulcers
- 9:34of different etiologies. Stockings are self -administered
- 9:37by the patient. They are better suited for the
- 9:39maintenance phase, after ulcer healing. So class
- 9:433 stockings have demonstrated halving, so reducing
- 9:46to half, venous ulcer recurrence rates, compared
- 9:48to no compression at all. Class 2 stockings are
- 9:51somewhat less effective, but have better adherence
- 9:54because they're more comfortable to put on and
- 9:56take off. And adherence itself is actually a
- 9:59critical outcome variable. Now, some technical
- 10:01aids like doffing or donning devices or silicone
- 10:04rollers or sliding bags should always be mentioned
- 10:07or offered to the patient to improve adherence,
- 10:10taking into account the patient's physical ability,
- 10:12cognitive capacity, economic situation, or social
- 10:15support. We also use stockings in our ward for
- 10:18post -operative edema. We'll maybe talk about
- 10:21this more in detail a bit later on. Those are
- 10:24very practical points that our listeners can
- 10:27apply in their daily clinical practice. So thank
- 10:30you. You mentioned that bandage play a key role
- 10:34in the management of activeness leg ulcers. However,
- 10:38not all bandage system are the same. Could you
- 10:43explain the differences between short stretches
- 10:46and long stretches bandage? or between inelastic
- 10:49and elastic compression systems? Right. Bandage
- 10:54components are classified by their extensibility,
- 10:57that is, the degree of elongation under a standardized
- 10:59force. So inelastic or non -stretch bandages
- 11:02have a 0 to 30 % elongation. The Unaboot is an
- 11:07example of this type of bandage. They generate
- 11:09very high static stiffness, meaning A large pressure
- 11:13difference between standing and supine with strong
- 11:16pressure peaks during muscle contraction that
- 11:19intermittently occlude venous flow and boost
- 11:22the calf pump effect. Because while walking,
- 11:24the muscle will actually compress against that
- 11:27rigid bandage. However, there is no pressure
- 11:30at rest. They are very well tolerated at rest
- 11:32because they're rigid and they don't reduce the
- 11:35diameter at rest. Short stretch bandages have
- 11:39an elongation of 30 to 100%. So they're also
- 11:42very rigid. They have high working pressure and
- 11:45low resting pressure. And long stretch bandages
- 11:48can elongate to over 100%. So they generate...
- 11:52high resting pressure. They retain that elasticity
- 11:55that makes them go back to their original size
- 11:58at rest. So they keep that high resting pressure,
- 12:01but they have low working pressure because while
- 12:04walking, the muscle will alter, will stretch
- 12:07those bandages. So they are poorly tolerated
- 12:09in patients with venous ulcers, and they actually
- 12:12carry a lower safety profile. When used as a
- 12:15sole component, they're actually not often, I
- 12:18would say maybe never. used as a sole component
- 12:21due to that risk of over -compression at rest.
- 12:24Multicomponent systems combine elastic and inelastic
- 12:28components to achieve both an adequate working
- 12:30pressure with the inelastic component and yet
- 12:33some pressure during rest, but low resting pressure,
- 12:38so keeping tolerance, good tolerance to these
- 12:41systems. So they make the most of both kinds
- 12:43of bandages. This is why... Combining those properties
- 12:47of long -stretch and short -stretch or inelastic
- 12:51bandages, they consistently outperform monocomponent
- 12:54systems in healing RCTs. You mentioned multilayer
- 12:59compression systems. Could you tell us about
- 13:02the evidence supporting their use? Any strong
- 13:04evidence? Yes, actually the evidence is substantial.
- 13:08A Cochrane meta -analysis updated in 2021 with
- 13:1248 RCTs demonstrated that compression therapy
- 13:16achieved higher 12 -month ulcer healing rates
- 13:19with a ratio of 1 .77, shorter healing times
- 13:23and less pain compared to no compression, with
- 13:26improved quality of life and no increase in adverse
- 13:29events. Within the compression systems, the combination
- 13:32of elastic and inelastic components, that's multi
- 13:34-component systems, outperformed those containing
- 13:37only inelastic components in both healing rates
- 13:40and healing time. Four -layer multi -component
- 13:43bandages were more effective than pure inelastic
- 13:46systems, with a hazard ratio of 1 .32. And then
- 13:50two -layer multi -component systems showed equivalent
- 13:53efficacy to four -layer systems, which are actually
- 13:56no longer used, with better patient -reported
- 13:58comfort. Class III elastic stockings were more
- 14:02effective than inelastic bandages after 2 to
- 14:044 months with a ratio of 1 .62, although not
- 14:08class I or class II stockings. The 2023 Cochrane
- 14:12review also confirmed that class III stockings
- 14:15reduced to half the recurrence rates compared
- 14:17to no compression as secondary prophylaxis. Now,
- 14:20from a cost -effectiveness perspective, multi
- 14:23-component bandages have consistently proved
- 14:25to be the most cost -effective option, followed
- 14:27by a double -layer elastic stockings and then
- 14:30inelastic bandages. Well, you have clearly showed
- 14:34us that there is a strong body evidence supporting
- 14:37compression therapy. And moving on to some practical
- 14:41aspects, what are the key principles clinicians
- 14:44should keep in mind when applying compression
- 14:47bandage? For example, What role does padding
- 14:51play? Well, this is best learned in a workshop
- 14:56with hands -on bandaging. But to try to convey
- 14:59this in audio, correct application requires attention
- 15:04to several principles, actually derived from
- 15:06Laplace's law. Pressure is proportional to the
- 15:10tension applied and the number of layers, and
- 15:12inversely proportional to the limb circumference.
- 15:15And this has some actual practical implications.
- 15:18So areas of smaller diameter, and that's the
- 15:20ankle and the bony prominences in the malleoli,
- 15:23in the tibial crest, the fibula head and the
- 15:26Achilles tendon, receive disproportionately higher
- 15:28pressure because of this law? And they are at
- 15:31risk of tissue injury and nerve compression if
- 15:33you're not really careful with the way you bandage.
- 15:36So what we do is we pad those. We use padding
- 15:39material. We use cotton, a cotton bandage, a
- 15:43simple cotton bandage, to pad those areas. So
- 15:46that padding material must always be interposed
- 15:48between these smaller and at -risk areas, especially
- 15:51the bony areas, and the bandage. Limbs can be
- 15:56very different. They can be wide or they can
- 15:58be narrow, or they can be wide in some places
- 16:00and narrow in other places, and they can be longer
- 16:02or shorter. So the limbs' perimeters must also
- 16:06be conformed to try to make them as homogenous
- 16:09as possible, not a narrow area which will receive
- 16:11more pressure than a very large cuff, for example.
- 16:15So they can be conformed again with padding,
- 16:17with cotton wool, before bandaging. So those
- 16:20with regular shapes or fibrotic deformities or
- 16:24calf muscle atrophy in older patients, that can
- 16:26create, as I have said, an even pressure distribution,
- 16:29and that can be conformed. Corrective padding
- 16:32can restore that smooth cone shape, allowing
- 16:35for the bandage to distribute the pressure uniformly.
- 16:38And also, before applying the bandage, the skin
- 16:41should be washed, dried. We tend to use hyperoxidized
- 16:45fatty acids. to reduce the sense of itching,
- 16:49but other products can be used as well. And in
- 16:52subsequent dressing changes, always take a look
- 16:54at possible areas of redness or possible areas
- 16:57of pain. Identify those, because those probably
- 17:00need more padding. And the wound interface as
- 17:04well, the dressing, must be compatible with the
- 17:06compression system and with the exudate management
- 17:08requirements. That's the other topic I would
- 17:12like to discuss with you. That is the interaction
- 17:15between the wound and compression therapy. How
- 17:20do you choose the interface between the wound
- 17:22and compression material? Well, a very important
- 17:25element is exudate. And we know that venous ulcers
- 17:28tend to be very exudative, especially at the
- 17:30beginning. Once compression therapy is installed,
- 17:32the edema reduces and then the level of exudate
- 17:35usually goes down. So in different phases at
- 17:38the beginning and then as we go along, the dressing
- 17:40must be compatible with that level of exudate.
- 17:42So highly exudative ulcers require absorbent
- 17:45dresses that can prevent the strike through and
- 17:48the maceration under the bandage that will remain
- 17:50a few days. And the dressing must also protect
- 17:54the wound from the mechanical pressure of the
- 17:56bandage without creating additional pressure
- 17:58concentrations. Like I mentioned before, there
- 18:01can be some pressure points that we must avoid.
- 18:04It's important that the dressings that we use
- 18:07on the bandage are non -adhesive, because the
- 18:09bandage will keep the dressing in place, so that
- 18:12adhesion is not necessary, and the adhesive silicone
- 18:14can macerate and harm the periosteal skin under
- 18:17compression. The interface choice must also not
- 18:22compromise the overall pressure profile of the
- 18:24system, so very thick or very rigid dressings
- 18:27can artificially elevate that local pressure
- 18:30in the area of the wound. And remember that in
- 18:33areas of bony prominences, especially those that
- 18:36are adjacent to the wound, need additional padding
- 18:38to make sure we do not create those special points
- 18:43of extra pressure. And ultimately, the wound
- 18:46care plan and the compression system should be
- 18:49conceived as a single integrated strategy. I
- 18:52was not aware of the potential problems associated
- 18:55with adhesive materials. And you also highlighted
- 18:59the importance of adequate padding, which seems
- 19:03important to prevent development of new ulcers.
- 19:06So as I mentioned before, vascular surgeons don't
- 19:10know much about bandaging. So when we start,
- 19:12and I can tell my own process, it's better to
- 19:15be extra careful with extra padding if you're
- 19:19not totally sure and you're starting to bandage.
- 19:21And once you become more confident, you have
- 19:23more experience, you can... put in exactly the
- 19:27right amount of padding. So you can never go
- 19:29too far with padding. That will reduce the pressure
- 19:32on certain areas. So that is a safety measure.
- 19:35So that padding is very important. That's, yes,
- 19:38that makes sense. And early in our discussion,
- 19:43you mentioned Unaboot. In fact, I use Unaboot
- 19:46quite frequently in my clinical practice. Do
- 19:50you think there is a role for Unaboot in Venus
- 19:55disease? Yes. And anecdotally, actually, the
- 19:58Unaboot is the most used compression therapy
- 20:01in Brazil. There's a recent published study about
- 20:03that. The Unaboot is, and I think I mentioned
- 20:06it before, it's a monocomponent inelastic bandage,
- 20:09so 0 to 30 % elongation. And it's typically a
- 20:13zinc oxide impregnated cotton gauze. It generates
- 20:17very high static stiffness, so it provides strong
- 20:20working pressure peaks during ambulation and
- 20:22very low resting pressure. So it's very well
- 20:25tolerated. It can remain in place for several
- 20:27days, and its limitations are really that it
- 20:30soils its single use and it loses pressure relatively
- 20:34quickly. But in the 2021 Cochrane review and
- 20:38subsequent meta -analysis, it shows similar healing
- 20:41efficacy to multi -component systems in a head
- 20:43-to -head comparison, although It tends to be
- 20:46slightly less cost -efficient than multi -component
- 20:49kits, but it does remain a valid guideline -supported
- 20:52option, particularly in settings where multi
- 20:54-component kits might not be available. Well,
- 20:58let's talk a little bit about contraindications.
- 21:01Could you tell us about the main contraindication
- 21:04to compression therapy? Right, let's begin with
- 21:07pressure levels per ICC standards. So, they are...
- 21:11mild, less than 20 millimeters of mercury, medium,
- 21:1420 to 39 millimeters of mercury, strong, that's
- 21:1840 to almost 60, and very strong, 60 or above.
- 21:22Right, well, mild levels are used in early stages
- 21:25of chronic venous disease, occupational edema,
- 21:27or elderly patients with low mobility status
- 21:30in whom we want to prevent edema or treat mild
- 21:33edema, for example. Medium levels are used in
- 21:36chronic venous disease, maintenance after venous
- 21:39also healing. Adapted pressure for mixed arteriovenous
- 21:42ulcers and ulcers of other etiologies, where
- 21:45we need compression but we want to be extra safe
- 21:47with 20 mm of mercury instead of 40. And for
- 21:50active venous leg ulcers and no PAD, a target
- 21:53of 40 mm at the ankle is recommended. 60 mm is
- 21:57used for lymphedema and post -thrombotic syndrome
- 22:00as a rule of thumb. The absolute contraindications
- 22:04of compression therapy are PAD with an ankle
- 22:08brachial index under 0 .6 or ankle systolic pressure
- 22:11under 60 millimeters of mercury or toe pressure
- 22:14under 30 millimeters of mercury or TCPO2 under
- 22:1820 millimeters of mercury. Congestive, severe
- 22:21congestive heart failure, so that's NEHA 304,
- 22:24without adequate or clinical hemodynamic control
- 22:27and confirmed allergy to any material used in
- 22:31the device. So these are the only absolute contraindications.
- 22:35There are other some special considerations in
- 22:38which pressure must be adapted to the patient's
- 22:41anatomy or the clinical situation. And one of
- 22:44the most interesting ones or the one that usually
- 22:47causes greatest concern or greatest doubts is
- 22:51peripheral arterial disease. So it's an absolute
- 22:53contraindication when the PAD is severe, that
- 22:57is ABI under 0 .6, but it's not contraindicated
- 23:01when there is mild or moderate PAD. Right, let's
- 23:04dig into this a bit further. So the arterial
- 23:06status must be assessed before starting compression
- 23:08in any patient for any etiology, that is, distal
- 23:12pulse palpation. So if distal pulses are very
- 23:15clear, that allows for starting compression therapy
- 23:18without further investigation. In the case of
- 23:21absent or doubtful pulses, and let's consider
- 23:25that We are talking about patients with edema,
- 23:27so they might be doubtful. That moves to require
- 23:31an ankle brachial index. If ABA measurement should
- 23:35not be reliable because the patient is diabetic,
- 23:37so there's calcification, or maybe because of
- 23:40the wound location, you can't really do it well,
- 23:42the other options are toe brachial index and
- 23:44transcutaneous oxygen pressure. Those are alternatives.
- 23:49ascertaining the arterial status by distal pulses,
- 23:52ABI or alternatives is adamant because we want
- 23:55to make sure we're not in that situation of absolute
- 23:58contraindication. Now in ABI between 0 .6 and
- 24:010 .8, compression can be considered. Medium level
- 24:05compression that is around 20 millimeters of
- 24:08mercury is safe and effective in these patients,
- 24:11especially those with mixed ulcers with a venous
- 24:14ulcer but an arterial component as well. And
- 24:17also used with expertise, compression can be
- 24:20very useful also in diabetic foot ulcer. We talked
- 24:23about the reduction of inflammation and the improvement
- 24:27of microcirculation. So that can be done, but
- 24:29I do recommend doing this in wound units and
- 24:33with certain expertise. You also have to be careful
- 24:35to choose the right device, do the bandaging
- 24:38technique well, careful padding and close monitoring
- 24:41in patients with mild or moderate peripheral
- 24:44arterial disease. There are other situations,
- 24:47special situations like heart failure. So severe
- 24:49heart failure in the acute phase with the disease
- 24:52out of control, that is an absolute contraindication.
- 24:55But when the patient is starting to respond to
- 24:57medication, compression with low pressures and
- 25:00a close hemodynamic monitoring can be used. And
- 25:02in chronic patients with chronic heart failure,
- 25:05any health one or two, there are no restrictions
- 25:07to compression therapy and that can help with
- 25:09lower limb chronic edema. Other situations. superficial
- 25:13and deep venous thrombosis. Compression reduces
- 25:16pain and edema, and they are not a contraindication.
- 25:19Actually, I mentioned at the beginning of the
- 25:21podcast, they are an indication. Invasculitis.
- 25:24Compression therapy can be beneficial for reducing
- 25:27the inflammation, the pain, and the edema. In
- 25:29infection, and you mentioned that, infection
- 25:31with systemic signs, compression therapy can
- 25:33be delayed until stabilization. So we have had
- 25:36patients admitted with cellulitis, secondary,
- 25:39for example, to a venous leg ulcer. So they are
- 25:41starting on systemic antibiotics, and in a couple
- 25:44of days, when the cellulitis is subsiding, there
- 25:47is less pain, less inflammation, then we start
- 25:49with compression bandages, even at 40 millimeters
- 25:51of mercury. Or you can choose to start at 20
- 25:54mmHg if you are concerned about patient tolerance
- 25:57and then scale to the 40 mmHg indicated level
- 26:01in subsequent dressing and bandit changes. Other
- 26:05situations I can mention requiring careful risk
- 26:08-benefit evaluation that can include severe skin
- 26:11fragility or dermatological conditions where
- 26:14lower pressures, maybe modified materials and
- 26:17additional padding can be used. combined with
- 26:20thorough patient education. And we use compression
- 26:24in bypasses in the post -operative period of
- 26:27bypasses of all kinds, lower limb bypasses, even
- 26:30subcutaneous insider bypasses. We use thigh -high
- 26:34stockings. And our trick is to use one size larger.
- 26:37So the pressure exerted will be mild, will be
- 26:39under 20 millimeters of mercury, enough to prevent
- 26:42or reduce edema. and it will be easier to put
- 26:45on and take off over the wound dressings. We
- 26:48actually did an internal study to make sure what
- 26:51we were doing was safe, and it did prove safety.
- 26:54We had no bypass occlusions, and we had a reduced
- 26:56rate of surgical wound breakdown because of the
- 26:59reduction of the edema. So primary healing of
- 27:03the wounds was better. A very important method
- 27:07for our clinical practice. Many of us tend to
- 27:11assume that compression therapy should be avoided
- 27:13altogether in patients who have undergone bypass
- 27:16surgery. However, you explained to us that when
- 27:20patients are carefully assessed and appropriate
- 27:22precautions are taken, compression therapy can
- 27:26be used safely and can provide benefits. 100
- 27:35millimeters of mercury or more. And what you're
- 27:37doing, external compression will be up to 20
- 27:40millimeters of mercury. What you have to be careful
- 27:43is that the elastic stocking doesn't have creases
- 27:45that create precise points of extra pressure.
- 27:50So you have to educate the patient to keep that
- 27:52stocking well straightened and make sure that
- 27:56throughout the day they straighten that stocking.
- 27:58And as I said, we use one size larger because
- 28:01otherwise it would hurt them to actually put
- 28:03it up over the... wounds, the surgical wounds.
- 28:06And those tricks actually help a lot with the
- 28:08postoperative edema. They can get up and walk
- 28:10earlier. Actually, we do it within 24, 48 hours.
- 28:14So they can walk without all that edema when
- 28:16they start walking. And we also found that besides
- 28:20reducing the surgical wound breakdown, we actually
- 28:23discharge the patients a couple of days earlier
- 28:25as a mean. That is a very useful point. Another
- 28:30challenge you mentioned earlier is patient adherence
- 28:34to compression therapy. As we all know, compliance
- 28:38can be difficult, particularly in warmer climates.
- 28:42And based on your experience, what strategies
- 28:45do you use to improve adherence and motivate
- 28:48patients to continue with compression therapy?
- 28:51Well, yes, non -adherence to compression therapy
- 28:54is a major global problem. I think we find that
- 28:57in every country. In chronic venous disease,
- 28:59The non -adherence rates have been reported to
- 29:02be as high as 80 % across studies, and that directly
- 29:05contributes to prolonged healing times of venous
- 29:08layers, so higher costs, also recurrence. Adherence
- 29:12is determined by a lot of factors, some related
- 29:14to the patient. like pain or physical limitations
- 29:18or skin problems or body image, even lack of
- 29:21social support. Professional factors as well
- 29:23and lack of specific training. And that might
- 29:26be one of the reasons why compression is not
- 29:29used worldwide in the treatment of venous leg
- 29:33ulcers or insufficient patient education or a
- 29:36poor therapeutic relationship. So the patient
- 29:39leaves the outpatient clinic with a bandage that
- 29:41he or she takes off the following day. And there's
- 29:45also some factors related to a system like limited
- 29:48resource accesses, maybe multi -component bandages
- 29:50not available everywhere, or economic barriers.
- 29:53These adherence problems with factors and possible
- 29:56solutions, actually, these have been extensively
- 29:58addressed in two previous Wonderful ESVS podcasts.
- 30:02Now, strategies that work include a holistic,
- 30:07patient -centered, transdisciplinary approach
- 30:09that integrates Well, the medical and the social
- 30:14and the emotional dimensions of the patient.
- 30:17I think it begins with being very specific in
- 30:20the type of compression therapy described. Like
- 30:22I mentioned at the beginning, we can't just say
- 30:25compression therapy. It's actually better to
- 30:27pinpoint, is it a stocking? Is it a bandage?
- 30:30What is the degree of compression? How are we
- 30:33going to use it? Lung and so on. And then the...
- 30:36The interview with the patient is key. Making
- 30:38clear to the patient that compression therapy,
- 30:41when we have indicated, is non -negotiable. It
- 30:43is part of the therapeutic program. You can't
- 30:46take it. Make sure that the patient understands
- 30:48that. Without the compression, that also will
- 30:51not heal. So there has to be a joint agreement
- 30:53and a compromise to follow through. So I'm going
- 30:56to put the bandage on. You're going to keep it
- 30:58on and we'll be in touch. And the next time we
- 31:00meet, you're going to tell me how comfortable
- 31:02it was or if there was a specific point where
- 31:05you had pain. And I will listen to that, make
- 31:07sure I adapt the padding or I adapt the level
- 31:10of compression and have kind of a joint agreement
- 31:13on how we're going to do this. And maybe setting
- 31:16short, medium and long -term objectives. You
- 31:20can keep this bandage on until our next visit.
- 31:22And in our next visit, okay, you were comfortable.
- 31:25It's not as bad as you thought. You keep it on
- 31:27till next week. And then with the weeks, the
- 31:30patient will see the evolution of the ulcer.
- 31:32And that's probably going to make him more loyal
- 31:35to the treatment and make sure adherence is kept.
- 31:39You also have to involve the family. and the
- 31:42support networks. You have to convince the family
- 31:44as well that compression therapy is not optional,
- 31:47that it's mandatory. So they don't have external
- 31:49pressure saying, oh, well, if it hurts, take
- 31:51it off. And also, I think we also mentioned this,
- 31:54providing technical aids like devices to help
- 31:57them put the stockings on or off if they're using
- 31:59stockings to reduce recurrence, as we mentioned,
- 32:04and adapting the treatment to the patient's routine.
- 32:06And that will factor. might condition our choice
- 32:11of bandage or stocking, for example. And a lot
- 32:13of information. So that patient -health practitioner
- 32:17relationship, when we talk about the things that
- 32:20concern the patients, we warn them about common
- 32:22symptoms. We talk about pressure or itching or
- 32:26heat or exudate and alert signs requiring consultation.
- 32:30In our wound unit, the patients have the telephone
- 32:33number of the wound unit in case they need to
- 32:35be seen earlier than their next appointment,
- 32:38for example. And also taking a bit of time to
- 32:42address the whole lifestyle of the patient, recommending
- 32:46exercise, balanced diet. So adherence is complex.
- 32:49It's not just a one -off prescription, especially
- 32:51with compression therapy. It is actually a dynamic,
- 32:54continuous process that will require sustained
- 32:57follow -up and refinement and adaptation. Yes,
- 33:01I really like that approach, particularly the
- 33:03idea of setting small achievable goals. It is
- 33:07a strategy that I have not previously considered,
- 33:11but it makes a lot of sense. And staying on the
- 33:15topic of endurance, I'd like to move to ulcer
- 33:17recurrence. We know that long -term compression
- 33:20therapy is recommended to reduce the risk of
- 33:23illness like ulcer recurrence. And based on your
- 33:26experience, what strategies do you use to minimize
- 33:29the risk of ulcer recurrence while maintaining
- 33:32a good long -term endurance to compression therapy?
- 33:36Yes, yeah, recurrence rates are so high. They
- 33:39have been reported to be up to 30 % two years,
- 33:4240 % at three years, and even 60 % at five years.
- 33:47The risk is substantially reduced by, I think,
- 33:50two complementary strategies. The first is, when
- 33:54possible, the correction of the underlying venous
- 33:57pathology. So patients who underwent surgical
- 34:01or interventional procedures to reduce that ambulatory
- 34:04venous pressure had a recurrence rate of 27%.
- 34:07versus 67 % in those who did not in one study.
- 34:11Early venous ablation of incompetent superficial
- 34:13venous systems is a cost -effective intervention
- 34:16that should be considered as first -line treatment
- 34:19in combination with compression, as I said, whenever
- 34:21possible. And that was proved clearly in the
- 34:24EVRA trial published in 2018. Now, the second
- 34:28strategy is indefinite compression therapy after
- 34:30healing. We talked about compression stockings.
- 34:33Now class 3 stockings reduce recurrence by approximately
- 34:3750 % compared to no compression. Class 2 are
- 34:41somewhat less effective, but they achieve better
- 34:43endurance. So it's better to have lower pressure
- 34:48stocking that you will use continuously than
- 34:50a high pressure stocking that you will never
- 34:52use. A Canadian health technology assessment
- 34:54actually estimated that 50 to 80 % reduction
- 34:57in recurrence with elastic stockings, regardless
- 35:00of compression class. So the key here is actually
- 35:02wearing them. The preferred modality for long
- 35:05-term secondary prophylaxis is graduated compression
- 35:08stockings, supported by appropriate medical aids,
- 35:11again, to put them on and take them off. Sustained
- 35:14patient education, this is key, and a motivational
- 35:16program. maximize adherence over time so the
- 35:20patients need to understand that recurrence is
- 35:22a possibility and that it's in their hands reduce
- 35:25that recurrence and talk to them use this compression
- 35:28stockings and adapt them maybe like we said lower
- 35:31pressure to increase the amount of time that
- 35:34they're going to use them Other pathologies,
- 35:36which are not venous leg ulcers, in which compression
- 35:39therapy is used, like other etiologies of ulcers,
- 35:42postoperative edema, calciflaxis, hypertensive
- 35:45ulcers, trauma, hematomas, etc., they have lower
- 35:48recurrence rates. They're more of a one -off
- 35:50event, but it will depend really on the patient's
- 35:52characteristics, on the age, on the mobility,
- 35:55and other underlying chronic pathologies. So
- 35:59in these cases, besides the treatment of the
- 36:02underlying diseases, of course, low pressure,
- 36:05that's mild, knee -high stockings, might be considered
- 36:07for maintenance for the prevention of that orthostatic
- 36:10edema. Well, Professor Molina, we are reaching
- 36:13the end of our podcast. Thank you very much for
- 36:16joining us today and for sharing your expertise
- 36:19and practical advices on compression therapy.
- 36:23I'm sure our listeners have learned a lot from
- 36:26this discussion. And before concluding, is there
- 36:29any final advice would you like to give to our
- 36:33listeners? My last message, I think, is I am
- 36:38passionate about fulfilling this gap in knowledge.
- 36:43I myself have had to learn about this, which
- 36:46I didn't learn about, not in medical school,
- 36:49not in my training years. So I've had to learn
- 36:51it as a consultant. And it is so useful. I use
- 36:55it every day, not only in venous leg ulcers,
- 36:58but as I said, in a lot of pathologies. So getting
- 37:01the skill, which is really not difficult, considering
- 37:04that the manual things, the manual skills we
- 37:07learn in the OR, this bandaging is easy in comparison,
- 37:11but you still have to learn it. So I really encourage
- 37:14everyone who's listening to read documents, to
- 37:18become aware that we have this gap in knowledge,
- 37:21to fill it, to read. And if you can, and I hope
- 37:25that the ESVS will be organizing this, go to
- 37:28a workshop, one where a very, very specialized
- 37:31nurse will teach you how to bandage well. tips
- 37:34and tricks, how to use one or the other device,
- 37:37and that will give you a very, very useful tool
- 37:40for your everyday clinical practice. Professor
- 37:42Melina de Senega, thank you very much for joining
- 37:46us today and for sharing your expertise and practical
- 37:50insights. Compression therapy may be one of the
- 37:54oldest treatments in vascular medicine, but as
- 37:58today's discussion has shown, it remains one
- 38:01of the most effective and evidence -based interventions
- 38:04we have from symptoms relief to ulcer healing
- 38:08and prevention of recurrence. Thank you for listening
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- 38:18ESVS library. You can also consult the 2022 ESGS
- 38:23Clinical Practice Guidelines on the Management
- 38:25of Chronic Venous Disease for further reading.
- 38:28If you found this episode useful for your daily
- 38:31clinical practice, please share it with your
- 38:35colleagues, trainees and members of your multidisciplinary
- 38:38team. Until next time, keep the pressure on!