Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 22 May 2025
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- 0:02Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge
- 0:06Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
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- 0:12Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, Welcome to your Thursday's budget Day
- 0:15Speaker 2: to day. We'll get to Simon Bridge's former Associate Finance
- 0:18Speaker 2: Minister and the Sea to use Craig Rennie for their pecks.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Superannuation going to be a big topic of discussion this morning.
- 0:24Speaker 2: If you've got views nine to nine two the number
- 0:27Speaker 2: de text. Mitch McCann is in the US for US.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Trump's been meeting with the South African counterpart. We will talk.
- 0:34Speaker 2: There's still actually going in the Oval Office. We'll talk
- 0:36Speaker 2: about that later in the program. Our reporters around the country.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Of course, Shane Jones wants to look at farming octopus,
- 0:43Speaker 2: but I also want to ask him where are we
- 0:45Speaker 2: at with the oil and Gas band bill because it's
- 0:48Speaker 2: basically stalled and we're celebrating our primary sector this morning
- 0:52Speaker 2: after those trade surpus numbers that we had at yesterday.
- 0:56Speaker 2: It is seven minutes after five Thursday of twenty second
- 1:02Speaker 2: of May. At the White House. As I mentioned, the
- 1:04Speaker 2: South African President Cyril Ramaposa is there. He's been visiting Trump.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Trump says white farmers are fleeing South Africa, with dozens
- 1:11Speaker 2: moving to the US's refugees. Ramaposa denied it. Then Trump
- 1:16Speaker 2: confronted him by playing a video.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Let me see the articles flares of a you would
- 1:22Speaker 3: and excuse me, turn the lights down. Turn the lights
- 1:26Speaker 3: down and just put this on. It's right behind you.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Each one of those white things you see is across
- 1:34Speaker 3: and there's approximately a thousand of them. They're all white farmers,
- 1:40Speaker 3: the family of white farmers. And those guys aren't driving
- 1:44Speaker 3: their stuff there to pay respects to their family member
- 1:47Speaker 3: who's killed.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Rama Posa's just sitting there like what is happening? Show
- 1:52Speaker 2: and tell from the president. Meanwhile, Trump's been talking about
- 1:55Speaker 2: building a Golden dime. We spoke about this yesterday. And
- 1:58Speaker 2: guess who's come along saying I want to be covered
- 2:01Speaker 2: by your golden dome. It's Kni from Canada.
- 2:05Speaker 4: You'll get many defense experts who say that this is
- 2:08Speaker 4: how Donald Trump and know the world leaders should be
- 2:10Speaker 4: looking at defense for the future. The big question is
- 2:14Speaker 4: is Donald Trump being overly vicious now Gaza.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Obviously there are growing calls for aid for the Palestinians.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Israeli officials say ninety three trucks are being let in.
- 2:25Speaker 2: The UN says teams have not been able to distribute
- 2:28Speaker 2: the aid that they're bringing in.
- 2:30Speaker 5: We started to see malnutrition go down, we started to
- 2:33Speaker 5: fix fad the points. We got medicines in the hospitals,
- 2:35Speaker 5: but it was five hundred trucks a day, and we're
- 2:38Speaker 5: not seeing anything like that right now, a tiny, tiny fraction.
- 2:42Speaker 5: So if we're serious, if the government is serious about that,
- 2:45Speaker 5: then the United Nations and very brave partners are ready
- 2:48Speaker 5: to go. But early stages so far, I'm not.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Looking good now. Jas Thornton, she's the mental health advocate
- 2:54Speaker 2: blessed her. I think she does great work, but I
- 2:56Speaker 2: think she's completely wrong. She came out yesterday and basically
- 3:00Speaker 2: against the ban on social media for kids. She reckons
- 3:04Speaker 2: the band could lead to more kids taking their own lives.
- 3:08Speaker 6: There's been kids that say that they would not be
- 3:11Speaker 6: here if it wasn't for that.
- 3:12Speaker 2: I just think so.
- 3:13Speaker 6: Much more needs to be looked at and assessed because
- 3:16Speaker 6: I think we're going to lose more kids from something
- 3:19Speaker 6: like this.
- 3:21Speaker 2: The evidence, if that's what you want to go off,
- 3:24Speaker 2: the overwhelming evidence is that phones are making our kids mental.
- 3:29Speaker 2: They're making them depressed, They're making them anxious, the worst
- 3:33Speaker 2: thing for their mental health. Nine after five Get.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Ahead of the Headlines on early edition with Ryan Bridge
- 3:42Speaker 1: and one roof Make your Property Search Simple News talks
- 3:46Speaker 1: that'd be.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Lots of stuff for you this morning. Trump's big beautiful
- 3:49Speaker 2: bill trying to get through the House. We'll look at that.
- 3:50Speaker 2: We've got new seak numbers. We got this Reserve Bank survey,
- 3:54Speaker 2: the first one that they've done, asking businesses, how do
- 3:57Speaker 2: you feel about inflation? What's going to happen with inflation?
- 4:01Speaker 2: It's not good. We'll get to that later. But I
- 4:03Speaker 2: was just wondering for people who are reading the news,
- 4:08Speaker 2: did you see this story from Kate McNamara at The
- 4:10Speaker 2: Herald yesterday. She's a business journalist. She did great stuff
- 4:13Speaker 2: during COVID. Anyway, she's had a look at David Seymour's
- 4:16Speaker 2: Regulatory Standards Bill because it's been introduced to the House
- 4:19Speaker 2: this week. And I was talking to a friend about
- 4:21Speaker 2: this on the weekend. Is anybody on board with David
- 4:25Speaker 2: Seymour and his crusades at the moment? I don't know.
- 4:30Speaker 2: I just feel like they're maybe not quite achieving the
- 4:36Speaker 2: things that they set out to achieve while also costing
- 4:39Speaker 2: us a shite ton of money. So here's a look
- 4:43Speaker 2: at this. So it's basically it's very complicated and convoluted process.
- 4:47Speaker 2: But you've got to go away and measure all of
- 4:50Speaker 2: the current bills that exist and all future bills, measure
- 4:54Speaker 2: those against the set of standards that the regulatory standards,
- 4:58Speaker 2: and there'll be a new statutory boards set up. Oh
- 5:01Speaker 2: that sounds expensive. It's all run by the regulation Ministry
- 5:05Speaker 2: Ministry of Regulation, which again he has set up. None
- 5:09Speaker 2: of this stuff is binding, so you will end up
- 5:12Speaker 2: surely it will be like you know, measuring things against
- 5:16Speaker 2: climate change standards or whatever, you know, another well being standards,
- 5:20Speaker 2: another bunch of measures you measure against. Recommendations get made
- 5:25Speaker 2: and then get ignored. None of it's binding, and the
- 5:28Speaker 2: cost Kate McNamara reckons twenty million dollars a year for
- 5:32Speaker 2: twenty years. And what's worse, impossible to identify any benefits
- 5:38Speaker 2: at this stage. I mean, if this was just if
- 5:40Speaker 2: the shoe was on the other foot and just Sindra
- 5:42Speaker 2: Adur and said I've got this amaze as she did,
- 5:45Speaker 2: you know, with the well being amazing idea, and we
- 5:47Speaker 2: need to measure this against that, and I'll set up
- 5:49Speaker 2: a working group and I'll set up a board and
- 5:52Speaker 2: it's going to cost you this much. And by the way,
- 5:54Speaker 2: I can't tell you how much it will save us.
- 5:57Speaker 2: You would be furious, wouldn't you. And the Ministry for
- 6:01Speaker 2: Regulation seventy staff, seventeen fixed term, the average salary one
- 6:06Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And I had a look
- 6:09Speaker 2: on their website their news releases since they've been set
- 6:12Speaker 2: up basically couple of reviews. You know, you'll probably be
- 6:16Speaker 2: able to get a beer at your hairdresser or a
- 6:18Speaker 2: glass of wine if you want. There'll be no hot
- 6:20Speaker 2: water at the daycare as of compulsion, but really twelve
- 6:25Speaker 2: after five News Talk se B Bryan Bridge coming up next.
- 6:28Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Federated farmers because the primary
- 6:32Speaker 2: sector has been driving our export growth and there's a
- 6:36Speaker 2: lot to celebrate. This morning News and Views.
- 6:39Speaker 1: You trust to start your day is early editioned with
- 6:42Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and One Room Make your Property Search Simple.
- 6:46Speaker 2: News TALKSB just gone quarter past five, so we've got
- 6:50Speaker 2: to seek employment data out. This is their job ads
- 6:52Speaker 2: report for April. The job ads are up one percent
- 6:56Speaker 2: month on month. The applications per ad down three percent
- 7:00Speaker 2: month on month. This is good. This is the fourth
- 7:03Speaker 2: month of growth this year. The annual rate of decline
- 7:06Speaker 2: is that it's lowest since December twenty twenty two, so
- 7:09Speaker 2: that is good too. I mean, it's not taking off
- 7:12Speaker 2: a modest recovery you might call it, or at least stabilizing.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Volumes were up as well, solid growth in some big
- 7:18Speaker 2: regions or cleaned up three percent for volumes. Why count
- 7:22Speaker 2: up four percent for volumes and year on year growth,
- 7:26Speaker 2: which is quite a different beast Otago up one percent,
- 7:29Speaker 2: Tasman up four percent. They are among just a handful
- 7:32Speaker 2: of regions where that actually happened. The industries ten percent
- 7:37Speaker 2: jump for retail and IT up seven percent month on
- 7:41Speaker 2: month and seven percent year on year. So we love
- 7:43Speaker 2: an IT expert a month or two. Well done. Largest
- 7:47Speaker 2: rise in job adds month on month, up ten percent
- 7:49Speaker 2: from March. This is sixteen after five now. Grime bred
- 7:53Speaker 2: climbary sector has helped drive an April trade surplus of
- 7:56Speaker 2: one point four billion dollars, first billion dollar surplus in
- 7:59Speaker 2: five years. For the month it was a five hundred
- 8:03Speaker 2: sorry a twelve million dollar deficit the same time last year.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Dairy the big winner, up six hundred million dollars on
- 8:10Speaker 2: last year to a total of two point two billion.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Milk powder alone brought in a billion bucks, up thirty
- 8:15Speaker 2: two percent on last year. Richard McIntyre, Federated Farmers Dairy Chairperson,
- 8:19Speaker 2: with me this morning, Richard, Good morning, Good morning, Ron.
- 8:23Speaker 2: So this is something worth celebrating, is it? Can you
- 8:26Speaker 2: put it into context? Everyone's saying our farmers are creaming it.
- 8:29Speaker 2: I'm paying too much for my butter. What do you say?
- 8:32Speaker 7: Well, first, all right, there'll be a heap of dairy
- 8:35Speaker 7: farmers listening to your show this morning with a smile
- 8:37Speaker 7: and the faces just hearing it. You know, we're so
- 8:39Speaker 7: proud of our contribution to the economy and the wider
- 8:43Speaker 7: standing of the center of living that we help New
- 8:47Speaker 7: Zealand degenerate. Sorry, but look, yeah, there's there's a lot
- 8:51Speaker 7: going on in the space. You know. Definitely, milk prices
- 8:53Speaker 7: a rising the same way that everything else is rising
- 8:56Speaker 7: at the moment. But you know, dairy farmers aren't agreement.
- 8:59Speaker 7: We are doing a right at the moment, but our
- 9:02Speaker 7: costs have gone up so much over the last few
- 9:04Speaker 7: years that you know, in all reality, all we're doing
- 9:06Speaker 7: is making a reasonable margin at the moment.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Yeah, on farm inflation and just whacked you guys for sex,
- 9:11Speaker 2: didn't that? So does this how long do you? I mean,
- 9:15Speaker 2: I saw the ASB numbers for predictions for next season.
- 9:18Speaker 2: It's looking like it could be which starts shortly, could
- 9:21Speaker 2: be a good one.
- 9:22Speaker 7: Too, Yeah, definitely, you know, it's all indications are that
- 9:26Speaker 7: next season is going to be around the ten door
- 9:28Speaker 7: mark at the moment, but there's still a lot of
- 9:30Speaker 7: volatility out these internationally, so you never really know until
- 9:34Speaker 7: until you're told you've got it, you know, a year later.
- 9:36Speaker 7: But look, on farm costs are still sitting around the
- 9:39Speaker 7: eight dollar fifty markers, so you know, there's about a
- 9:41Speaker 7: dollar fifty margin for the average farmer at the moment.
- 9:43Speaker 7: So we're cidering, not cream it. But it is certainly
- 9:46Speaker 7: a good time for the dear industry.
- 9:48Speaker 2: How can it be cheaper to get butter from Australia?
- 9:51Speaker 2: You know, you see these stories of bakeries going to
- 9:54Speaker 2: Australia to get their butter rather than buying it from here.
- 9:57Speaker 7: Well, it's a good question. So you know, New Zealand
- 10:00Speaker 7: dairy products attracted premium because they are grass fed, their safe,
- 10:05Speaker 7: their nutritious, and they've also got the lowest greenhouse gas
- 10:08Speaker 7: emission footprint in the world, and so you know, international
- 10:11Speaker 7: customers are prepared to pay a premium for them, so
- 10:14Speaker 7: so often it is actually cheaper to import. I enjoy
- 10:18Speaker 7: saying this, but your farey Australian product.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Richard, Thank you, nice explanation. Richard McIntyre, dairy chairperson at
- 10:24Speaker 2: Fed Farmers, appreciate your time. Eighteen minutes after five, Shane
- 10:28Speaker 2: Jones calling a next on octopus and also is oil
- 10:30Speaker 2: and gas band.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on a barly edition with one roof make
- 10:35Speaker 1: your property search simple used talk zibby.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Shane Jones is keen to farm native octopus. At twenty
- 10:41Speaker 2: one after five. There's money to be made, he reckons
- 10:44Speaker 2: animal rights activist groups unsurprisingly matters how at Auckland University
- 10:48Speaker 2: for doing a million dollar tax payer funded study into
- 10:51Speaker 2: the farming of native octopus. The Oceans and Fisheries Minister
- 10:54Speaker 2: with me this morning. Shane, good morning, thanks, good to
- 10:58Speaker 2: have you on the phone. Now, can I just before
- 11:00Speaker 2: we get to the octopus, where's your oil and Gas band?
- 11:03Speaker 2: Reversal bill.
- 11:04Speaker 8: At as soon as we passed the various bits of
- 11:09Speaker 8: legislation detaining to the budget, it's next up. It's all drafted.
- 11:15Speaker 2: Okay.
- 11:15Speaker 8: There was a bit of a there. There were a
- 11:17Speaker 8: few things I had to correct because there was a
- 11:19Speaker 8: debate with the industry and myself over who and how
- 11:23Speaker 8: should the burden of paying for the tidy up after
- 11:28Speaker 8: an oil and gas enterprise finishes up.
- 11:31Speaker 2: The decommission got through sensible place. Okay. Interesting, so you've
- 11:36Speaker 2: got you've done your deals, you've got the bill ready
- 11:39Speaker 2: to go, and it'll happen after the budget because it
- 11:41Speaker 2: was meant to happen by the end the end of
- 11:42Speaker 2: last year. Right, So you finally got it across the line.
- 11:44Speaker 2: That's good tonight.
- 11:46Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, basically what happened is the guys from the
- 11:49Speaker 8: industry felt that we had taken an approach which actually
- 11:55Speaker 8: disincentivized them spending more money. I took an approach to
- 11:59Speaker 8: protect the in your base of the country, worked it
- 12:02Speaker 8: through with one of two of the key senior ministers,
- 12:06Speaker 8: and look, it's drafted and ready to go.
- 12:09Speaker 2: What have you done to allay their fears?
- 12:13Speaker 8: Well, we need to ensure that when decommissioning takes place.
- 12:18Speaker 8: That it's done not at the level of the taj Mahal,
- 12:22Speaker 8: but it's comparable with international best practice. But at the
- 12:26Speaker 8: same time, if it comes to pass that some of
- 12:29Speaker 8: the infrastructure has to stay in place, providing that we've
- 12:35Speaker 8: closed off the possibility of spillage of any residual oil
- 12:39Speaker 8: and whatnot. And without sounding too trick, common sense rule
- 12:45Speaker 8: the roost.
- 12:46Speaker 2: So what you could leave some platforms out there?
- 12:48Speaker 8: No, no, no, no. In other countries around the world,
- 12:51Speaker 8: obviously the platforms disappear. Other countries are exploring were not
- 12:54Speaker 8: those cavernoists areas under the seabed, as they're large enough
- 13:00Speaker 8: that can be used in terms of climate change areas
- 13:06Speaker 8: carbon and stuff like that.
- 13:07Speaker 2: But give us and give us a sense, what would
- 13:09Speaker 2: you let stay on the seabed.
- 13:12Speaker 8: Oh look, when we spent the three or four hundred million,
- 13:14Speaker 8: I can't exactly. There's a crowd called Tamar and they're
- 13:18Speaker 8: the ones who created the problem three or four years ago.
- 13:21Speaker 8: The crown ended up absorbing the costs because they fled
- 13:24Speaker 8: like butter and Kelnie Hobson, and we took an approach
- 13:29Speaker 8: at every single thing had to be taken from the
- 13:33Speaker 8: bed of the sea, the foundations, any residual pipework, and
- 13:42Speaker 8: we've left an opportunity for a future minister and the
- 13:47Speaker 8: owners of the assets to meet a high threshold. At
- 13:51Speaker 8: the same time we can make a judgment.
- 13:54Speaker 2: So you could leave at the point which you could
- 13:57Speaker 2: leave the foundations and the pipes on the ground. Well,
- 13:59Speaker 2: that's what they do another party, all right, Well, you
- 14:02Speaker 2: know what the Greenies will say about that. They won't
- 14:04Speaker 2: be happy, Shane.
- 14:06Speaker 8: Yeah, I do tend to trigger them, but the fact
- 14:08Speaker 8: of the matter is if we are unable to continually
- 14:12Speaker 8: rather generate an economic surplus in New Zealand, we're not
- 14:15Speaker 8: going to be able to afford the cost of their rhetoric. Anyway,
- 14:19Speaker 8: I'm taking them on next week. They're having a protest down.
- 14:23Speaker 2: And what about the lowering of the royalties to incentivize
- 14:29Speaker 2: foreign companies, foreign investors. You ruled that out.
- 14:34Speaker 8: No, what I'd say is just play attention during the
- 14:38Speaker 8: course of the day, That's all i'd say.
- 14:43Speaker 2: So come on, Shane, look at five twenty five in
- 14:45Speaker 2: the morning, no one's listening.
- 14:47Speaker 9: Let me know, Hey, buddy, don't deprecate yourself.
- 14:51Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding, But seriously. That is that is
- 14:54Speaker 2: an active issue potentially lowering royalties.
- 14:58Speaker 8: Well, no, what I'd say is that what's active is
- 15:01Speaker 8: that if we're who half, we're not happy about using
- 15:05Speaker 8: mountains of coal, then we've got to do things that
- 15:10Speaker 8: stir a greater level of interest and boost the risk
- 15:14Speaker 8: taking appetite for the gas industry and just stitches ti
- 15:17Speaker 8: ho during the course of the day.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't asked you about octopus. Does it taste nice?
- 15:23Speaker 8: Yeah, it's called feki mutu. Dungy was an octopus pursuer.
- 15:30Speaker 8: But what I was really hoping to check to you about. Sorry, Yeah,
- 15:35Speaker 8: well you're right, it is nice. I had an auntie
- 15:39Speaker 8: who used to sort of and if you go up
- 15:41Speaker 8: the islands and I had an auntie. When you've got it,
- 15:43Speaker 8: you've belted it and then you sort of softened it up.
- 15:45Speaker 2: But all, hey, minister, I've just been told that I've
- 15:49Speaker 2: actually spoken to you for far too long, so we
- 15:50Speaker 2: have to leave it there. I'm afraid, but I do
- 15:52Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on the program. Shane Jones, the Ocean
- 15:55Speaker 2: and Fisheries Minister. It is twenty six after five the.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Early edition full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by.
- 16:02Speaker 2: News Talks AB News TALKSB. It is twenty eight minutes
- 16:05Speaker 2: after five. So you go drilling for oil in New Zealand,
- 16:08Speaker 2: exploring for oil in New Zealand which is currently banned offshore.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Thank you to the previous labor government. But we just
- 16:16Speaker 2: heard from Shane Jones, had him on the program talk
- 16:18Speaker 2: about octopus, which we didn't do. He said, the bill
- 16:22Speaker 2: which we've been waiting for, meant to be passed by
- 16:24Speaker 2: the end of last year. He is going to introduce
- 16:27Speaker 2: that after the budget, told us this morning, and to
- 16:32Speaker 2: appease the industry. He's going to allow them to potentially
- 16:35Speaker 2: leave the foundations of your platforms, the foundations on the
- 16:41Speaker 2: seabed and the pipes too, so you can imagine how
- 16:45Speaker 2: that's going to go down with Chloe Swawbrook today. He
- 16:49Speaker 2: also said, because there was some rumors floating around that
- 16:52Speaker 2: he might lower the royalties on oil and gas to
- 16:56Speaker 2: incentivize players to come into New Zealand, he'd watch this
- 17:00Speaker 2: space and it's budget day of course, so who knows
- 17:03Speaker 2: what could happen. We will be watching that space, minister.
- 17:06Speaker 2: Thank you. We got this new Reserve Bank report coming
- 17:09Speaker 2: your way next plus Mitch McCann is stateside on News
- 17:13Speaker 2: Talk SIBB.
- 17:33Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
- 17:35Speaker 1: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof Make
- 17:39Speaker 1: your Property Search Simple News Talk SIBB.
- 17:53Speaker 2: New's talking to be twenty four minutes away from six.
- 17:56Speaker 2: It is budget Day. We'll get to Craig Wrennie from
- 17:58Speaker 2: the Lay Party Council the CTU, along with Simon Bridges,
- 18:02Speaker 2: former Associates Finance Minister just before six o'clock. Right now.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Providing I make it to sixty five, and you don't
- 18:08Speaker 2: want to count your blessings, do you, But providing I
- 18:11Speaker 2: make it there, assuming for a second that I do,
- 18:14Speaker 2: I don't expect that I'll be receiving the full pension.
- 18:17Speaker 2: And you know what, I would rather receive less at
- 18:21Speaker 2: a later age than pay more taxes through my working life.
- 18:26Speaker 2: Guess what the number of people over sixty five was
- 18:28Speaker 2: in this country in two thousand and six, four hundred
- 18:31Speaker 2: and ninety five thousand, about half a million. It's increasing
- 18:34Speaker 2: by eighty a day. It will reach one million by
- 18:38Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. In a couple of years, by twenty
- 18:41Speaker 2: fifty one and a half million. You can see where
- 18:43Speaker 2: this is going compared to the OECD. We have the
- 18:46Speaker 2: highest basic pension paid from general taxes in the OECD,
- 18:52Speaker 2: and of course we've got fewer young people working to
- 18:54Speaker 2: support it. Treasury sees this will blow out. We will
- 18:57Speaker 2: need to increase taxes personally. No oh, thanks, with another
- 19:02Speaker 2: about thirty years on the clock before I get to
- 19:04Speaker 2: this magical age. How much extra tax must I pay?
- 19:08Speaker 2: Which color government will be in charge when the inevitable happens?
- 19:12Speaker 2: Why can't I instead invest my own money, with the
- 19:15Speaker 2: help of compounding returns, hopefully set myself up for my
- 19:18Speaker 2: own retirement. Like most kiwis, I hope and again you
- 19:22Speaker 2: don't count your blessings. I hope I will have invested
- 19:25Speaker 2: wisely and saved adequately to feed and house myself. If
- 19:29Speaker 2: that changes, then a means tested system should always be
- 19:33Speaker 2: a safety net. But at some point we have to
- 19:36Speaker 2: move on from think big on NZ super to something smaller.
- 19:42Speaker 2: We need to put this thing on a diet twenty
- 19:46Speaker 2: two minutes away from Sex now, Calum Procter and de
- 19:48Speaker 2: need for us this morning, Calum and oil spill drill
- 19:52Speaker 2: is being rehearsed in Dunedin today.
- 19:55Speaker 6: Yeah morning, Ryan, the attag original council here along with
- 19:58Speaker 6: port Otago combined to conduct this exercise to ensure.
- 20:02Speaker 2: The oil spill responses up to scratch.
- 20:05Speaker 6: It'll be a six hour long exercise today covering the
- 20:08Speaker 6: deployment and launch of containment equipment, rehearsing, cooperation between port
- 20:13Speaker 6: Otago oil transfer site holders and also council staff. Up
- 20:18Speaker 6: to thirty staff will be involved in this and port
- 20:20Speaker 6: Otago Vessel new Era will be the fictitious source of
- 20:24Speaker 6: the oil leak. The council says they'll be testing their
- 20:27Speaker 6: capabilities of skimming oil from both shore and seasides of
- 20:30Speaker 6: the harbor today.
- 20:32Speaker 2: How's your weather.
- 20:34Speaker 6: It's fine today, high cloud increasing later westerlies and seventeen
- 20:37Speaker 6: the high nice one.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Thank you, calem and Courtneys and crash Roots this morning, Courtney,
- 20:41Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. Now what's going on with this
- 20:43Speaker 2: bus in Selwyn?
- 20:45Speaker 10: Yes?
- 20:45Speaker 11: So as basically back to the drawing board on proposed
- 20:49Speaker 11: bus services for the Salwyn district. This comes as the
- 20:52Speaker 11: environment Environment Canterbury is struggling with growing demand and limited funds.
- 20:56Speaker 11: Local democracy reportings. His residents expressed a knee for more
- 21:00Speaker 11: public transport and housing growth areas. Eakend's annual plan proposed
- 21:05Speaker 11: moving to a two or three zone fare structure, with
- 21:08Speaker 11: wymuccary bus users paying three dollars to travel within the
- 21:12Speaker 11: district and four dollars to travel into christ Church. The
- 21:16Speaker 11: third zone, if adopted, would apply in Selwyn, but submissions
- 21:20Speaker 11: on the third zone indicate residents don't want to pay
- 21:23Speaker 11: the proposed targeted rate, so Chair Craig Pauling says they
- 21:27Speaker 11: need to look at other options.
- 21:29Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather?
- 21:30Speaker 11: Fine morning, fog or frost like northwesterlyes developing this afternoon
- 21:35Speaker 11: are high of fifteen.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Good on you Courtney, Thank you, MAXI is willing to Max.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, a big council meeting. This is
- 21:41Speaker 2: a long term plan today.
- 21:42Speaker 12: Yeah exactly, Not that anyone will care with the budgets
- 21:45Speaker 12: being released this afternoon, but councilors are looking at rates,
- 21:48Speaker 12: for instance, down to about twelve percent the rise. It's
- 21:51Speaker 12: better than it was, still bad. The Council's recommending slowing
- 21:55Speaker 12: down the cycle away roll out, pushing ahead with this
- 21:58Speaker 12: joint regional water entity in lieu of the disastrous Wellington
- 22:01Speaker 12: water hiking. Commercial accommodation rates i e. Making Running an
- 22:05Speaker 12: airbnb far more expensive but I suppose you want hotels
- 22:09Speaker 12: to invest. Most interestingly, in the past week or so
- 22:11Speaker 12: you've had until now with this cost crunch that's happening
- 22:15Speaker 12: in the capital. The council's saying we've got to get
- 22:17Speaker 12: rid us some community projects, which has included Candala Pool.
- 22:21Speaker 12: We just can't afford it. It needs some money to fix.
- 22:24Speaker 12: Andrew Little I came out and said he would save
- 22:27Speaker 12: the pool where he elected mayor. So then a few
- 22:30Speaker 12: days later you had toy Fano, the outgoing mayor, saying
- 22:33Speaker 12: she was now committed to saving the pool. Got the
- 22:37Speaker 12: jump on Little. The system works. The whole thing was
- 22:40Speaker 12: supposed to be sorted out last year, of course before
- 22:42Speaker 12: this airport shares sale debacle.
- 22:45Speaker 2: Goodness, you keep the pool, you keep the Pagonia house.
- 22:48Speaker 12: That's all long with the mex mostly fine fifteen the
- 22:52Speaker 12: high Central.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Fine for a budget. I thank you, Eniabas and Auklaneva.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Good morning reading, I said about Smith and not surprising
- 22:58Speaker 2: because we know that there's been some proper But the
- 23:01Speaker 2: Central Auckland.
- 23:02Speaker 10: Store yes now end of an era. So this one
- 23:04Speaker 10: hundred and forty five year old business announced yesterday closing
- 23:08Speaker 10: its doors with a final time now this is going
- 23:10Speaker 10: to happen before August, a loss of about one hundred jobs.
- 23:14Speaker 10: Now Smith and Coey's citing absolutely we all know this
- 23:18Speaker 10: reduction and foot traffic, the city center disruptions as reasons
- 23:21Speaker 10: for poor performance. Anne Marie Johnson, now she's the retail
- 23:25Speaker 10: insied spokesperson. She says, look, this is a familiar story
- 23:28Speaker 10: many businesses in areas with this ongoing roading issue. But
- 23:32Speaker 10: she says, you know, obviously, combined with the tough economic time,
- 23:35Speaker 10: simply too hard for some of these companies to continue.
- 23:37Speaker 10: And if you can't get there, you know, I mean,
- 23:39Speaker 10: customers are just not going to.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Go there around.
- 23:42Speaker 2: How's say you weather today right.
- 23:43Speaker 10: Well, early fog or frost's for Auckland becoming partly cloudy.
- 23:47Speaker 10: Seventeen is the high.
- 23:48Speaker 2: Brilliant, thank you never. It is eighteen minutes away from
- 23:51Speaker 2: six News talks here b we'll get to Craig Rennie
- 23:53Speaker 2: and to Simon Bridges just before six o'clock and Mitch
- 23:57Speaker 2: McCann in the States.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Next national correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
- 24:03Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business Quarter six.
- 24:06Speaker 2: Two books did big Craig Winni and Simon Bridges on
- 24:08Speaker 2: the budget next to Mitch mccannon state side for us.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Much good to have you back, Ryan, How are you
- 24:13Speaker 2: very well now? Lots to talk to you about this morning.
- 24:15Speaker 2: So we've on Gaza Netnya, who's just spoken. He says, basically,
- 24:19Speaker 2: the war will continue until all parts of Gaza are
- 24:22Speaker 2: under Israeli control. Trump's been speaking this morning, Has he
- 24:25Speaker 2: said anything about it? Not that I've seen.
- 24:28Speaker 13: Donald Trump has actually been with the South African President
- 24:30Speaker 13: Cyril Ramaposa in the last couple of hours. But we
- 24:33Speaker 13: saw Tom Fletcher from the United Nations say yesterday that
- 24:36Speaker 13: if the AID doesn't get into Gaza, this blockade doesn't
- 24:39Speaker 13: reach Gaza in the next forty eight hours, up to
- 24:42Speaker 13: fourteen thousand babies will die. That shows the seriousness of
- 24:46Speaker 13: the situation. But as you say, Benjamin Etna, who's sort
- 24:50Speaker 13: of full steamerhead, he says, it's still a security issue
- 24:52Speaker 13: for Israel, despite many members on the international community now
- 24:56Speaker 13: telling him that he needs to pull back.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Now White's South af Frican farmers are being massacred. That's
- 25:02Speaker 2: according to Trump, and he's confronted Ramaposa in the Oval office. Yeah,
- 25:07Speaker 2: this was a dramatic moment and the last hour, donald
- 25:10Speaker 2: Trump met Cyril Ramaposa. The background, of course to this
- 25:13Speaker 2: is that Donald Trump has suggested that white farmers in
- 25:15Speaker 2: South Africa are being massacred.
- 25:18Speaker 13: He's used the word genocide, and he's even started welcoming
- 25:21Speaker 13: white farmers as refugees to the US. Now, in this meeting,
- 25:25Speaker 13: Donald Trump asked his aides to dim the lights in
- 25:27Speaker 13: the Oval office and started playing this video on a
- 25:30Speaker 13: television that showed clips to back up his claims. And
- 25:34Speaker 13: then he started bringing out newspaper clippings reporting deaths and
- 25:37Speaker 13: started reading their headlines or civil Ramaposa sat next to him.
- 25:42Speaker 13: He said, you're taking people's land away, and in many
- 25:45Speaker 13: cases those people are being executed. It was a very
- 25:48Speaker 13: awkward moment. It threatened to turn into a Zelenski type
- 25:52Speaker 13: meeting in the Oval Office, but Ramaposa remained cool. He
- 25:56Speaker 13: tried to steer Donald Trump in a different direction. Although
- 25:58Speaker 13: it was extremely awkward this meeting, and I don't think
- 26:02Speaker 13: he expected to be ambushed in the way that he was.
- 26:05Speaker 2: The plane from Kuta. We got an update on that.
- 26:09Speaker 2: We do in the last couple of hours.
- 26:10Speaker 13: It's been reported that the US has formally accepted that
- 26:14Speaker 13: four hundred million dollar jets and interesting to note that
- 26:18Speaker 13: came up in the meeting with Ramaposa as well. He
- 26:20Speaker 13: said to Donald Trump, I'm sorry that I don't have
- 26:22Speaker 13: a jet to give you, and Donald Trump replied, well,
- 26:25Speaker 13: if you did, I would accept it.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Goodness me, what a rollercoaster. Thank you merch much. McCann
- 26:32Speaker 2: a stateside for US this morning. It's thirteen minutes away
- 26:34Speaker 2: from Sex. Ryan by it his budget day. It's no
- 26:38Speaker 2: BS debate time. We are going to go to Craig
- 26:41Speaker 2: Renny councilor Trade Union's director of Policy Economists, also on
- 26:44Speaker 2: Labour's Policy Council, and Simon Bridges, former Associate Finance Minister
- 26:48Speaker 2: or Business Chamber of CEO. Good morning, gentlemen, good morning,
- 26:52Speaker 2: Good to have you on. Have we got Craig. Oh
- 26:54Speaker 2: we haven't got Craig. He's really slept in.
- 26:57Speaker 9: Well that makes it, That makes it really easy, right.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty one sided argument. Hey, this talks
- 27:03Speaker 2: super First of all, do you think we need to
- 27:05Speaker 2: increase the age? Do we need to means test? It
- 27:07Speaker 2: sounds like Nichola Willis is going to at least lay
- 27:09Speaker 2: out a path maybe today.
- 27:11Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think those changes are good. I mean,
- 27:13Speaker 9: I think you know, what you're seeing is Nichola Willison
- 27:16Speaker 9: wr colleagues being very focused on the long term. I
- 27:19Speaker 9: mean what I would say, though, if that's all they do,
- 27:21Speaker 9: you know, infect at one level and a short term
- 27:23Speaker 9: you know, you're sucking more money depending on how they
- 27:26Speaker 9: structure it out of the economy when actually we need
- 27:28Speaker 9: to see things that are that are getting the growth
- 27:30Speaker 9: going right now. But look, if that's done, I mean,
- 27:33Speaker 9: I think most of you would say, yes, these are
- 27:35Speaker 9: sensible long term changes.
- 27:37Speaker 2: Is do you think she's doing this and having this
- 27:39Speaker 2: conversation now because we'll won the elections next year, but
- 27:42Speaker 2: because there is so there is going to be so
- 27:44Speaker 2: little in the budget that this could be a better
- 27:47Speaker 2: talking point.
- 27:49Speaker 9: Yeah. I think you know, you'd say at a high level,
- 27:51Speaker 9: what we're seeing from from here as a couple of things,
- 27:54Speaker 9: which which are both right. Yeah. I mean, one is
- 27:56Speaker 9: this a significant fiscal restraint push after you know we
- 27:59Speaker 9: over it, right and so that is a that is
- 28:01Speaker 9: a good That is a good thing. I think the
- 28:03Speaker 9: other one is some focus on the long term infrastructure
- 28:05Speaker 9: and so on. I mean, I would just simply say, though, look,
- 28:08Speaker 9: it's really tough out there. The Smith and Kobe's story
- 28:11Speaker 9: of the last day, it could be replicated many times,
- 28:13Speaker 9: and business is holding on for years. So I agree
- 28:16Speaker 9: with all of that. But if that's alone what they're doing,
- 28:19Speaker 9: that's not an adequate that's not a sufficient response to
- 28:22Speaker 9: where New Zealand's at. It's simply by itself going to
- 28:25Speaker 9: prolong the cycle we're in. I think what you know
- 28:27Speaker 9: I'll be looking for, actually, possibly, Craig Rennie, I think
- 28:30Speaker 9: what business will be looking for is really strong clear
- 28:34Speaker 9: evidence of the going for growth agenda that provides light
- 28:36Speaker 9: at the end of the time. Now that's the accelerated
- 28:38Speaker 9: depreciation stuff we've heard the rumors of. Actually that could
- 28:41Speaker 9: be if it was done well, a really big tick
- 28:44Speaker 9: for this business.
- 28:45Speaker 8: This budget.
- 28:46Speaker 9: If it's just auscurity and not not so much.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to get on the record. I
- 28:50Speaker 2: was the first to bring raise that accelerated appreciation with
- 28:53Speaker 2: the Minister and the key we saver changes too. But
- 28:56Speaker 2: if it could be, because this budget could be because
- 28:59Speaker 2: of you, Ro it's actually the bridge budget. If it
- 29:02Speaker 2: doesn't happen, of course, then just forget over see that.
- 29:06Speaker 9: It could have been the Bridge's budget. But things changed anyway.
- 29:09Speaker 2: Hey, what about the key we saver staff. If it
- 29:13Speaker 2: is true that they're going to increase the contribution for employee,
- 29:16Speaker 2: can employees afford an extra one to two percent?
- 29:20Speaker 9: Well, I suppose that's my point. It's a short term,
- 29:22Speaker 9: long term game. You earn the short term. My worry
- 29:26Speaker 9: would be, you know, actually, right now, they've got to
- 29:29Speaker 9: find things that are if you like countercite picle, that
- 29:32Speaker 9: are getting things going. You know, there's a lot of
- 29:34Speaker 9: talk about the long term, but the short term really
- 29:37Speaker 9: matters to you wrote I thought a cracker of a
- 29:39Speaker 9: column in the weekend. I'm not just saying that to
- 29:40Speaker 9: make you feel good. We've got some of the highest
- 29:43Speaker 9: immigration we've ever seen in lowest immigration, right, that's a
- 29:47Speaker 9: key indicator about economic health. What can we do now
- 29:51Speaker 9: that that turns sentiment around, that gets confidence, and that
- 29:54Speaker 9: keeps these people in New Zealand. So, you know, I
- 29:56Speaker 9: say it again, I go along with the superannuation stuff
- 30:00Speaker 9: as far as it goes. But in the short term,
- 30:03Speaker 9: exture cooker could cause issues if they brought it in
- 30:05Speaker 9: straight away. I personally doubt that over the long tendo Look,
- 30:09Speaker 9: excepting our saving rates need to go up, and there's
- 30:11Speaker 9: been quite a bit of chatter about that.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate your time. Simon. No sign of Craig Simon
- 30:16Speaker 2: Bridges Open Business Chamber of CEO, also former Poth Associate
- 30:19Speaker 2: Finance Minister. On News Talk SEB it is nine to six.
- 30:24Speaker 2: And for those people who are texting and about super
- 30:26Speaker 2: I'm not saying rip the rug out from under our
- 30:29Speaker 2: superinnuitants right now, or even those who are approaching a
- 30:34Speaker 2: retirement age or the age of entitlement, I should call
- 30:39Speaker 2: it rather than retirement age, because no one does that
- 30:41Speaker 2: at sixty five anymore. I'm just saying that I don't
- 30:43Speaker 2: expect to be getting the full hand out by the
- 30:46Speaker 2: time and it's a bit of a way to go.
- 30:48Speaker 2: I get there, Mike's nearly there. He's with us.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Next the first word on the News of the Day
- 30:56Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Room your Property
- 31:00Speaker 1: Surgeon Simvil News Talks.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Six the six on News Talks said be on your
- 31:05Speaker 2: budget day. We've got that big new survey from the
- 31:07Speaker 2: Reserve Bank which was out yesterday and the survey says
- 31:11Speaker 2: businesses expect inflation to pack up again. Great, and this
- 31:15Speaker 2: is across all time periods one year, two year, five year,
- 31:18Speaker 2: and ten year and you go, bugger, you know we
- 31:22Speaker 2: meant to have an OCR cut next week. Is this
- 31:23Speaker 2: going to change the bank's mind? The answers no, But
- 31:26Speaker 2: it's it's a pretty big survey. It's more than six
- 31:28Speaker 2: hundred businesses. The problem that they the reason they don't like,
- 31:32Speaker 2: even though it's just a survey and it's the people's opinion,
- 31:34Speaker 2: is that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. If you
- 31:37Speaker 2: think prices are going to increase in your business, then
- 31:39Speaker 2: you start you anticipate that by increasing your prices and
- 31:43Speaker 2: the whole thing snowballs. It is six away from six
- 31:46Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge, good morning, mate. Morning.
- 31:49Speaker 14: To be fair that still those forecasts are still within
- 31:52Speaker 14: their band, so it's not the end of the world.
- 31:54Speaker 14: Britain had a number out this morning at three point
- 31:56Speaker 14: five or three point six, which was way higher than
- 31:58Speaker 14: they thought and also out side of their band, so
- 32:01Speaker 14: that's their concern. You've been watching Ramafosa unreal. So when
- 32:05Speaker 14: I walk into the Oval office, I mean he must
- 32:07Speaker 14: have known something was coming, given the white South Africans
- 32:10Speaker 14: arrived in the country for the first time in the
- 32:12Speaker 14: last week, so he must have known something was coming.
- 32:13Speaker 14: But I walk into the Oval office and I see
- 32:15Speaker 14: a screen look out and I go, I wonder if
- 32:18Speaker 14: that screen is normally there? And then Trump goes, can
- 32:20Speaker 14: you turn the lights down? And I'm thinking, he loves
- 32:23Speaker 14: a He's good. The prop so basically a tax. And
- 32:26Speaker 14: we had Mitch mccannon about this just beare no I
- 32:29Speaker 14: heard it. But the question is is it having watched it,
- 32:32Speaker 14: is it worse than Zelensky? Or I think it's worse
- 32:36Speaker 14: than Zelensky because Zolensky went went rogue whereas this was
- 32:40Speaker 14: a setup. This was an ambush, a deliberate ambush.
- 32:43Speaker 2: Well, this Zolensky situation was of more consequence.
- 32:47Speaker 14: It wasn't consequence by default because Zolensky's in a war.
- 32:50Speaker 14: Where's ramaphosis not But just in terms of you've come here,
- 32:54Speaker 14: I'm going to do you over.
- 32:56Speaker 2: Well, what it says is, hey, there's a pattern of
- 32:58Speaker 2: behavior now like luxon, do not go near.
- 33:02Speaker 14: I wouldn't touch the old and he had Ernie hells.
- 33:05Speaker 14: He had them all, he had them lined up, so
- 33:06Speaker 14: it wasn't like he hadn't thought about it.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Anyway.
- 33:09Speaker 14: This morning, the budget will talk about that what to expect,
- 33:12Speaker 14: what not to expect and expectations and Steven Joyce, have
- 33:14Speaker 14: you seen the numbers around our run primary sector?
- 33:17Speaker 2: Yes, just like holding us up.
- 33:19Speaker 14: I thank the good Lord. It's all on the back
- 33:21Speaker 14: a nice summer, Zsprey. I don't think people understand Zesprey.
- 33:26Speaker 14: Not long ago, this last year, they were going, we
- 33:29Speaker 14: might crack four billion, And you think, is that good?
- 33:32Speaker 9: Yes?
- 33:32Speaker 14: It as you compare it to say, grapes and wine.
- 33:34Speaker 14: Wine's two billion, and we talk a lot about grapes
- 33:36Speaker 14: in the wine industry, that's two. Zesbury's four just gone
- 33:39Speaker 14: through five.
- 33:41Speaker 9: Just like that.
- 33:41Speaker 14: You know, suddenly you're selling one hundred and sixty million trays.
- 33:44Speaker 14: Now it's two hundred and twenty million.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Trades, milk powder alone, milki alone.
- 33:48Speaker 14: It's just beridable what they're doing for this country. And
- 33:51Speaker 14: just imagine that wasn't happening well, and how much trouble
- 33:54Speaker 14: would we be. We're all riding on the backs of
- 33:57Speaker 14: riding on the backs of the primary sector.
- 33:59Speaker 2: Have a great budge today, everybody, see you tomorrow. Mike
- 34:02Speaker 2: is here with you next again for a new person
- 34:07Speaker 2: On over again.
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