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Coach Spencer Crace - Family, Faith, and Football: Balancing Life · Quarterback DadCast | Intentional Fatherhood & Leadership at Home

• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder, and this is my dad's show.
• 0:14
  Speaker 3: Hey everybody, this is Casey Jaycox and welcome to season five.
• 0:17
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• 1:03
  Speaker 4: Now let's get to today's episode with Casey Jaycox.
• 1:07
  Speaker 5: Well, hey, everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the Quarterback Dadcast.
• 1:10
  Speaker 5: We're in season five.
• 1:11
  Speaker 5: It's an early one, everybody, it's 7-12, but it's not early really for my guest because he's been up since like four-something.
• 1:17
  Speaker 5: The dude coached a football game last night, got home late and then got up early to be with us this morning.
• 1:23
  Speaker 5: So we're grateful for that.
• 1:25
  Speaker 5: And our next guest is the assistant head football coach of the mighty Pacific Lutheran University, lutz, is Spencer Crace.
• 1:31
  Speaker 5: He's also the QB coach, I think the offensive coordinator, and who would have thought that back in 1995, when I played against the Lutz, that I would eventually interview two Lutz?
• 1:41
  Speaker 5: We got Dak Jordan in the house early season, and now we've got coach Spencer Crace.
• 1:44
  Speaker 5: Got Dak Jordan in the house early season and now we've got coach Spencer Crace.
• 1:48
  Speaker 5: He's also a former logger.
• 1:48
  Speaker 5: He lit it up back in 2010, something like that.
• 1:50
  Speaker 5: But that's not why we're having him on.
• 1:51
  Speaker 5: We're having him on because we're going to hear about Spencer the dad, how he's working hard to become an ultimate quarterback or leader of his households.
• 1:57
  Speaker 5: Without further ado, coach Crace, welcome to the quarterback, dak cast.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Hey man, good to be here.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: Casey, Thanks for having me.
• 2:07
  Speaker 5: You bet man, good to be here.
• 2:08
  Speaker 5: Casey, Thanks for having me, you bet man.
• 2:09
  Speaker 5: So we always start each episode gratitude.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: So tell me what are you most grateful for as a dad today, man, I'm grateful for my wife and I know right, every husband feels like they should say that, but I genuinely and truly am grateful.
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: You know, last night got home two o'clock in the morning and my two and a half year old was in our bed.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: Hasn't been feeling well.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: I picked him up, tried to put him back in his bed.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: Of course he wakes up.
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: He's frustrated, Right, I'm not in the headspace to deal with this.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: My wife gets up out of bed.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not in the headspace to deal with this.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: My wife gets up out of bed, kind of calms him down, spend some time with him, and you know just her willingness to serve and just be patient is so critical and such a blessing.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm grateful for her.
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: Man, I couldn't do what I do, working with PLU and FCA and all the different things that I'm juggling, and now my wife is working full-time as a teacher director of an outdoor school in Puyallup, and so she's going five days a week and so we're a busy household.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely very, very grateful for her.
• 3:25
  Speaker 5: Love it, man.
• 3:26
  Speaker 5: That's um.
• 3:27
  Speaker 5: Well, we'll dive into that further.
• 3:28
  Speaker 5: What I'm grateful for today is a couple things.
• 3:31
  Speaker 5: One I always love, um, making sure I say goodbye to my daughter every morning before she goes to school.
• 3:37
  Speaker 5: She's driving now, which is I'm getting used to that, and, uh, we had to have the conversation like something you take for granted for is like putting gas in a car.
• 3:44
  Speaker 5: Um, you got to teach them, and so my daughter's like she's done it before, but she's going.
• 3:50
  Speaker 5: It's like her second time by herself.
• 3:52
  Speaker 5: She's like what do I do, dad?
• 3:53
  Speaker 5: Like I'm like put the card in, put our zip code in, so it just I mean I just as kind of silly as that is, I'm just grateful for that time with her.
• 4:00
  Speaker 5: She was like so intentful, she's like this really coachable.
• 4:02
  Speaker 5: She's a basketball girl, so she's like this gritty, tough, but she was just like, okay, I'm good, and so it's like just grateful for that moment.
• 4:11
  Speaker 5: And I'm also grateful I get to go see my son this afternoon, who's off to college, and I think I told you before we started recording we're going to watch the mighty Southern Oregon Raiders take on the Montana Western.
• 4:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure what they are dogs or Raiders take on the Montana Western.
• 4:22
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure what they are Dogs or something.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bulldogs, I think.
• 4:27
  Speaker 5: Bulldogs that's right, bulldogs.
• 4:28
  Speaker 5: So I get it and I got.
• 4:29
  Speaker 5: So I'm kind of like I feel like I met the Apple Cup as a kid because my dad was a Husky, my mom was a Washington State Cougar.
• 4:34
  Speaker 5: I ended up going to Central so I was always down the middle and so I Oregon.
• 4:40
  Speaker 5: I got my buddy's kids who play for Western Montana so I you know I don't want to say I'm, but I'm kind of down the middle coach, so but it should be a fun weekend.
• 4:48
  Speaker 5: Just go be a fan.
• 4:53
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm going to do for everybody, we all get a trophy.
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: All right, man.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: Well, bring me inside the huddle, tell me.
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: I'd love to learn how you and your wife met.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: And then tell me who's on the squad right now.
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: Talk about each member of the team.
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, 2000 and about 2003,.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: I'm a sophomore in high school and my dad who's my was my football coach as well, so my dad was my head football coach.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: Comes to me and says, hey, we're going to this camp out in the middle of nowhere, oregon.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: It's at a big basketball training Academy deal, but it's an FCA leadership camp.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: So FCA fellowship athletes leadership camp, and it's kind of all sports, but they're going to talk about how to be great leader, how to do all these different things.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: And so I'm like, okay, great.
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: So we go and like every kid at some sort of camp, right, in a COE camp, you see some girl across the way and you're like holy smokes, right, you develop that camp crush.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: And so I saw my wife for the very first time at that camp and she's a freshman.
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: She was a year younger than me and I did not have the boldness or confidence to talk to her and just saw her from a distance.
• 6:05
  Speaker 2: The next year, me, and, uh, I did not have the boldness or confidence to talk to her.
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: And uh, just um, start from a distance.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: The next year, same same deal, right?
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: Um, go to go to the same camp, don't really, uh, engage.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: And um, as fate would have it, we, you know, go through high school, go through college.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: I become a college huddle leader at this camp, so I'm serving as a college counselor at this camp.
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: Get to know her older sister Her older sister was a volleyball player at Washington state university and so we're both serving and so kind of developed this connection with their older sister.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: Follow college I graduate my first job I'm hired as an area rep for in Tacoma, washington, with fellowship Christian athletes, and my first job is to recruit college huddle leaders to our camp.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: And so our camp director says, hey, we have an abundance of volleyball players.
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: I need you to call these coaches or these huddle leaders.
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: And he sends me this list and I'm looking at this list and I swear, casey, like I don't think I looked at any other list, but the list that, or the name that popped out on the list was Joelle and that was my wife's name.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I remember her and I know her older sister and I don't.
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: I don't have a, I don't have contact information Right.
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: So do what every gentleman would do I stalked her on Facebook.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: I find her, find her on Facebook, shoot her a DM.
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: And I say, hey, you actually probably don't know who I am.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: I actually know your sister.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: You know we have, you know, a lot of common bonds with FCA and different things.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: And I go, I'm with, I'm on staff for hiring, trying to get coaches, bubble, huddle leaders, like, would you be willing to come out?
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: And she says, uh, I appreciate it, I'm actually graduating.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: She was a volleyball player at Seattle Pacific University and she's like I'm graduating, I'm going to be moving back home.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the future holds.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think I can commit to it at this time.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: I said, well, maybe we should grab a cup of coffee and talk more about it.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: And so I was able to convince her to.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: You know, little did I know she doesn't even drink coffee, but convinced her to go on a date with me.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: We went on three dates back to back to back, drove up to Seattle all three days just to see her, and so then, so yeah, so we end up dating long distance.
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: I'm my first year coach at University of Puget Sound.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: Actually, I was going in my second season at University of Puget Sound and we're, so we're dating long distance.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: She's down in Vancouver, washington, and I decide to move back down to Oregon, um, partially because my dad's a high school coach down there.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get the opportunity to go coach with him and then also the chance to be closer to her, and so we could, you know, start really dating and having a solid relationship.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: I get down there.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: The first three months are great, we're together.
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: She comes to me and says I've got an opportunity in Bethel, alaska, to be a social worker and I didn't want to be the guy that crushed her dreams and said, no, I moved down here for you and now you're leaving.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: I said, okay, I think you should pursue this and if it's going to work, it's going to work.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: So she ends up going to Bethel Alaska, does it for just shy of a year and during that time while she's gone, we got engaged about halfway through it.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: So for the bulk of our relationship was was a lot of long distance.
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: So it really forced us to really tie into communication.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: We didn't have zoom at that time and she's also in Bethel Alaska and if you've ever been to Bethel Alaska, it's, it's not, it's not a place that people vacation to, so the cell service isn't great.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: We tried to Skype one time.
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: I spent a week up there with her and her host family that she was living with Um and.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: But it forced us to develop great communication strategies, talk on the phone, get to know each other and I think it really solidified and deepened our relationship and so um, and then obviously she moves back home.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: We spent about, I want to say, close to a year of being engaged and then got married and um and now been married over 11 years and uh, so that's been the journey of getting to know my wife and um, she, uh, she's, you know, collegiate athlete, comes from a family of athletes.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Her dad was a pastor and now runs one of the biggest nonprofits to end the demand of sex trafficking.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: Called-law was a gymnast at Montana, and so, um, so, so my wife kind of gets that athletic side of it.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: And the coach there's a lot of coaches in the family and so, um, there's a lot of things that drew me to her.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: And, and now, today we have three kids, um, our oldest is Barrett, um, so we call him bear.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: He's eight years old, in third grade.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: And then my daughter is Hayden, we call her Hazy, and she's five, in kindergarten, so just started kindergarten.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: And then my youngest, his name is Ridger, so think, like mountain Ridge with an R, not Bridger but Ridger, and he's two and a half and he's currently in the outdoor school with my wife that they just started um here at Puyallup, at farm 12.
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: So, um, so, yeah, that's that's, that's the squad man.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: We got three kids, two dogs.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: One of the dogs was a impulse buy after a end of season loss, um, and uh, try and try and get rid of him as much as possible, but you know we love him and uh, it's a, it's a great family, great squad, and and we're, we're in the thick of it, man, we're going, going on, going fast not a not a slow time for the craze family right now.
• 11:37
  Speaker 5: I, I don't.
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: I remember those those ages vividly.
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: Um, it's actually funny like, like the, the, the family I'm going to go see, shout out to Renee Plandry, that's the mom of the son, michael Plandry, who's quarterback for Montana Western.
• 11:51
  Speaker 5: I remember when Ryder, my son, was like three, I don't know a month old, had him in the baby Bjorn was going for a walk and she was there were like two doors down from us and she's like man, what a cute kid, blah, blah, blah, enjoy it.
• 12:03
  Speaker 5: I'm like, oh yeah, she's like it's going to go fast.
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: And I was like man, can I just enjoy it?
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: And I remember her saying that yesterday, and I am now 48 with an 18-year-old in college and it goes.
• 12:16
  Speaker 5: I mean all the cliches are so true.
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: So I just man, the word present and gratitude are like so important for me because stuff goes by fast and um, I mean you get wrapped up and stuff along along the way.
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: But, um, if you can kind of I found for me if I can kind of, just when those moments get tense or get frustrating, just take a deep breath.
• 12:37
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like when you see a blitz you'd never seen before, or like, oh, we had to shoot, just threw a pick, or I can't control it, you know.
• 12:45
  Speaker 5: So it's like get back in the huddle and do it again.
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: So, uh, well, and that's.
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: That's a cool story.
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: Actually, we were, my wife and I were um long distance too.
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: She went to uw.
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: She couldn't get into central, just the academics were too difficult for her.
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: As a joke, uh, but she, uh, she, uh, yeah, she, but the longest thing's legit.
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: So, um, I think it it does make you appreciate each other more.
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: And, um, back then we didn't have, we didn't have email back then.
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: That's how dated, how long long that was for us.
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: But, uh, well, cool.
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: Well, now I even like to go back further and talk about what was life like growing up for you.
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: You said you played for your pops, which I want to hear more about that, but talk about the, the.
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: What was life like growing for you and in Oregon, and the talk about the impact your parents had on you.
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: Now that you're dead.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: My parents went through late life divorces.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: So my dad had a pretty rough 20 to 30, um, you know, had had a few relationships and, um, he had my brother.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Um, my brother lives in Scottsdale Arizona.
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: Um, he goes through.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: My dad goes through a late life divorce.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: My mom has my brother and my sister, so all my siblings are half siblings, um, and my sister lives in in, uh, salt Lake city, utah.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: My other, my oldest brother, lives in Boise, idaho.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: So we're all kind of scattered all around the Western region, um, but so my mom goes through a late life divorce, my dad goes through a late life divorce.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: My dad walks into the church.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: My mom's singing in the front of the church.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: My dad sits down in the pew and he says, ask, taps the girl on the shoulder next to him.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: He goes, who's that?
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: And she goes, that's my best friend, donna, and next thing, you know, he gets her number.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: They start dating, they get married and then shortly after that I'm here.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: So my parents had me late in life.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: My mom was 40 when she had me 36 today.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: So I grew up kind of the baby of the family half siblings, older parents who you know, quite honestly gave me a lot of freedom and flexibility and I think at that point we're like, hey, go figure it out.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: So it kind of developed that independence in me.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: But I come from a family that wasn't divorced, right Like.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: My parents were together and it was very tight knit my grandfather and my grandmother, who I never met, my mom's mom she passed away early.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: My mom is one of eight kids.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: When my grandma currently who's still alive, we're about to celebrate her 90th birthday this summer I believe and she was already.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: She was a widow and had four kids.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: So when my grandfather married my grandma, 12 kids came together.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I have 44 first cousins and I think there's over a hundred plus in the family.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: So, right, it's just a really fun environment to grow up in.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: You know, around cousins and family parties, Everything was big.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: You know, around cousins and family parties, everything was big Thanksgiving, christmas, everything, right and um.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: So I grew up in that environment of family and that being important and traditions and and all that and then and so, um, it wasn't, you know, until kind of like more middle school and into high school when, kind of like I started to, you know, shape my maturity and my leadership and different things and stepping more into that role, and my dad had a huge part of that.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: My dad, my dad, went to Harvard as an undergrad.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Then he finished up, got his master's from Stanford and then he decided to go make the big bucks and get into teaching and coaching and so he's a very smart, educated guy and does a phenomenal job of um, you know, really like listening and pouring into people and he really had an impact on me and in my life and um, and so I was shaped in my mom.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I get my extroverted salesman type personality from my mom.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: My mom was a real estate agent and um and so.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: So, anyways, that's just how I was raised.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Um, and then being the son of a coach, right, this is now my dad's 49th season coaching football this fall.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Um and uh, he's our tight ends coach for for for us at PLU.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Um, so he always makes the joke that I'm technically his boss and um, so we get to go to work every day together and and pour into kids and do that and.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: But I grew up around watching older kids, right, like being around the high school program and seeing how he develops and instills leadership, and I think from a young age like that was very important for my development and I grew up watching guys like Kate McNown, you know, fourth in the Heisman Trophy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: You know Chicago Bears didn't have the best NFL career but you know he was a guy like I was a young kid watching from the sidelines and just some of the greats that my dad has had a chance to coach and be around, and so that was my upbringing.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Grew up in a little town called Wilsonville, oregon.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: After we moved from Westland Oregon to Wilsonville, my dad started that school and, um, it was absolutely just a great, great place for me to grow up, great community and, um, yeah, we had a great run, uh, all throughout high school and a lot of success during my high school career.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Um, and and yeah, that was just kind of my upbringing Love it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Tell me, like a couple of the core values that were super important for your family.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Like these are the must-haves your dad instilled in you.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: That like you're just like when I think of, like when you go flashback to that day or that time of your life, like tell me what comes to mind mind, like what values really stand out um, I think, core values, uh, my dad always would say, right, his mentor is a guy named bob mowad.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard of trevor's dad.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Trevor passed away, yeah, and obviously bob passed away, and so bob mentioned my dad and, um, you know, so I grew up a lot with that kind of, you know, mental Trevor's dad.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: How do we clear our minds?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Um, and I think, uh, some of the values that my parents instilled with me was not being afraid to go out and be told.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: No, I think my mom always was like it doesn't hurt to ask and my mom will ask for anything, right, and you know she'd be like, oh, like, we, we're a non-profit.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: You know why can't you give us 50 off?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You know, like just trying to give us.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: You know, trying to create deals and do different things and all that.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, my dog is barking, I don't know if you can hear Um and uh, so, um, so I think they've instilled in me, like this, this ability to not be afraid of rejection, not be afraid of conflict.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Um, and that's something that I kind of am wired as.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Like, in the coaching world, there's a lot of conflict, everyone's got an opinion, everyone knows how to run the ball on third down, especially the dad up in the stands who thinks he's the smartest coach in the world, but, like there's some people that shy away from that, I would love to sit down with that dad and you know, and for me it's like OK, tell me what front.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: That is Right, tell me what coverage is.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, you can't, you don't know how to identify that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: So then, right, like, that's just kind of the instance, like, like, why are we shying away?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I think we live in a culture right now that just shies away behind a keyboard, whereas me I'd rather sit down face to face and hash this thing out man-to-man if you really have a problem.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: And so those are some of the things I thought were instilled in me early that have helped me in my growth as a career, in my career, and um, and, and, and, and, not taking it too personally, right, like you know, and I was just on a call this morning with 16 coaches around the region and this is one of the things we were talking about.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: One of the coaches was sharing about a dad talking to him about how he should utilize his son and you know, and he got down into the roots of it and he was like you know what, like I shouldn't be that angry because, quite honestly, like this kid, there's something deeper going on, right, and the dad's, you know, demanding a lot and there's some mental health stuff maybe, and he's like, so I'm going to figure out, like okay, what you know how do I work with this dad, how do I work with this kid and this family?
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: versus being like defensive, you know, and like, yeah, like I want the best for your son too, you know, so, um, so those are things that I think from a young age with great parents and a great culture in the home, were instilled in me of, um, yeah, not being afraid of conflict, not being afraid to say, you know, to ask for things, um, and to you know, have rejection and be told no and um, and I think it really shaped me into kind of the coach I am and the man I am today.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: You, I think you actually described one of my favorite words Um, I think it's a life superpower.
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: It's something I work on every single day, but it's curiosity.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Um, that that's a story to my mind.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: I have curiosity right there where it's easy to respond.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: It's easy to try to convince Um, it's, you know, it's, it's react.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: But when you use curiosity, sometimes people coach themselves and they'll coach themselves out of either their negative thoughts.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I fell into coaching for, like business people, I coach kids growing up.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: I think us quarterbacks a, we got a screw loose.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I know that we're goofy, goofy dudes, but, um, I, I love, I love asking questions to get people to think.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: And, uh, you know I, I could literally see I, when you describe that dad, you're like oh, you don't see, this is an odd front.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: You don't see where it's.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Uh, you know two man and they're bringing four week.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: You don't see that.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, you don't.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: So how do you know two man and they're bringing four week?
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: You don't see that, oh, you don't.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: So how do you know what play to run?
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: You know, I can see, I can see, uh, that, that, and I think it's good.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: It's like you're not doing it to be, like you know, manipulative or angry.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: It's like, hey, okay, I'll respect your opinion, but make sure you have some data to back up what your opinion is, versus just an emotion because you, because you played eighth grade football in Bethel, alaska, and you think you get all the world's problems solved, you know, and so I love that story because I think man dads teach your kids to be curious and I love that.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: You're sure about your mom, like, why not?
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's the best advice in sales I was in sales for years the worst they're going to say is no, right, and if you genuinely believe what you do, you believe in the service you provide or you believe in why not?
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: So I love those stories.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Um, I remember when we talked months ago, you talked about a story of you playing football for your dad.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Uh, and if my memory's correct, you you played a little earlier in your career and your dad bet on.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: You'd love to maybe share that story with you, with the my audience yeah, um.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: So freshman year, freshman year, my dad suited me up for the varsity game.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Um, first ever game.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And he goes that night.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, you're not gonna play, but I'm gonna dress you on the sideline.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Um, just you, you know, just hang out and enjoy the.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the game.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Right, grab your popcorn, have some fun.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Well, as low as behold, lo and behold, we're getting blown out.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: And my dad's like comes to me and he goes hey, you got, you got one one play.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: And he goes you're going to, you're going to fake.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: We call it waggle, right, a little wing T stuff.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Right, you're going to fake the waggle.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Your cousin, my cousin, he's five, six, fastest kid on the team.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: He's going to go right down the middle of the field and he goes, just throw it to him.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm just a nervous freshman going the game, I'm just praying, I don't fumble.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: The snap, get the snap, forgot the motion.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Fake to a ghost, there's no running back there.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So I, you know, I extend the hand.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Fake to a ghost, set up and throw this bomb down the field.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And my cousin just somehow miraculously runs underneath it, catches it and goes to the house and um, and that was kind of the start to you know, my journey in high school and then the next year, um, as a sophomore, we're very good football team.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And the other quarterback, lo and behold, his name was Spencer as well.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Very good athlete, great, great kid.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: You know, we're really good friends, we all grew up together, right, it's just a tight knit community.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: And so him and I I'm his backup we're kind of rotating.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I get an opportunity to start in the quarterfinals, so on and so forth.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: We go all the way to the state championship game and lose, and so we're returning the entire team.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: We're all sophomores and juniors and we're returning the entire team.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: We go into the off season, we're training, we're preparing, we expect we're going to win the state championship.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: It's my junior year and I go to my dad and I go look, dad, here's the deal.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I go, I go, look, I don't want to be that guy, um, but I'm telling him what to do every time in the huddle, right, like I'm, I'm kind of giving him the reprogression.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I'm, you know, I, I, I grew up, I knew the offense so well because every time we went to Denny's there was salt shakers and peppers.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: You know like we went through coverages and all that stuff Right.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: So I'm pretty dialed and and I go, look, he could help us in other areas.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: He's six, 195 pounds, like he can run the ball.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: He's a starting safety.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: He can do things and and I can, and I can go in and win and my dad looks me in the eye and he goes, he goes, look if we make this move.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you can't lose, or else this, this community, is going to come after me.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Right, they're, they're.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: They're going to come after me, Cause I just you know we just went to say, championship the year before, with this guy kind of leading the helm.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Now, granted, I had a part in that and played quite a bit, but he goes, you can't lose.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And and it was just, it was a cool, cool experience.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And and lo and behold, right, we'd go 13 and 0, run the table and win the state championship and and all as well, and and just that experience with my dad to one, take a, take a shot on me, you know, show that he believed in me and and I know you know most dads right, like they want to play their son, my dad didn't have that mindset.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: My, you know, it was like what's best for the team and it wasn't like, just because I'm his son, he's playing, and obviously there's parents that felt that way, but what was best for the team was for me to be the quarterback and for this other guy to be running back and starting safety.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And he dominated in those positions Like we knew he would.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And and and and.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: That's just, I think, a message that I tell the guys is like I tell our kids at PLU know your value, right, know your value.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Some of you guys are fast, some of you guys aren't very fast, some of you guys are bigger or smaller, whatever like what value do you bring to the team?
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: And that's the beauty of the game of football, and um so that was, that was a message early on in my career as a player um, to see my dad and how he handled that and um, and then also to be able to take on the pressure, um, and be like okay, the ball's in my hands, let's go rock and roll, let's.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: You know a lot of.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: You know risk for sure.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: But I think the word that you said I love is also is believe, which is those that can see this on video.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: It's behind me.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: I think the word believe is such an undervalued word.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: People don't talk about it enough.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: But, like, if you believe in yourself, if people believe in you, it's like one of the greatest gifts we as parents can give our kids is hey, man, I love you, I believe in you and you know and your dad did that, I think, very, very well to give you the confidence to, hey, listen to you and but, but make the right decision for the team and shout out to other, the other, spencer, for checking his ego and being able to be a great teammate, and I'm sure that wasn't easy for him.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: But I mean all these life lessons or experiences.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Those are now life lessons that you probably apply to either the Lutes or your kids or other people in your life, and so I love that story.
• 28:49
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• 30:23
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• 30:26
  Speaker 5: You mentioned FCA a couple of times.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Talk about how you got involved with FCA and people don't know what that is, maybe.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Talk about what it is and how did it shape you as a?
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: How does that organization just kind of help you as a father?
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: How did it shape you as a?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: how does that organization just kind of help you as a father.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fca stands for Fellowship of Christian Athletes.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It's the number one sports ministry in the entire world, been over 65 plus years of existence, 2,500 plus staff across the United States and then even now growing globally, growing globally.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: And for me, it has shaped me, you know, as a father, just in regards to how I want to raise my kids, and you know, understanding, how do we, how do we take our faith and implement that into you know, sport and our life and adversity and and just the different things that are going to come up and and and hit you across the face, right, and it's, it's, it's.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Adversity is inevitable, right, and so I always talk.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: You know, consider pure joy my brother's when he faced trials of many kinds, because the testing of your faith develops perseverance.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: So you're, you're going to face trials, it's just inevitable.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But if you can keep your faith during the tough times, during the dark times, during the adversity, when you get punched in the face, and you keep going and persevere through it, then you will find joy.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: And like, that's the first part of that verse is like consider it pure joy when you face trials.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Like, in today's day and age.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: We don't talk about that.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It's like you just went bankrupt.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: You should point your fingers, cast blame and play the woe is me card, go into a deep depression, start you know whatever.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Like, no, like.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I'm raising up.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I'm reading a book right now Raising the Modern Day Knight, and I'm on a book right now raising the modern day night.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Um, and I'm I'm, I'm on a mission right now to to raise two, two young boys to become modern day nights.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And what does that mean is that they show up, they're tough, they persevere, they respect women, they love life, they have joy and they, you know, do this thing with the reckless abandon, right, like, they, just like.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: No matter what happens to me, I'm going to keep pressing forward, and so FCA has implemented me in me, this, this kind of this mindset and this heart that I think gets misconstrued oftentimes, and I know your listeners are probably very, you know, all across the board in regards to different faith, dynamics and all that stuff, which is great, and that's what I love about it, because that's what the world is about is, I think we all have to be able to come together and to be able to have conversations and and not be afraid of conflict and not be afraid of disagreements.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Or, hey, you believe something and I believe this.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Like, ok, like doesn't mean we hate each other, right, right, like how can we work through this?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And also like understand, like, hey, that's where he's at, that's where I'm at, like, all right, we're going to be okay, we can still be friends, right and um.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: And so I want to use this like when FCA comes into the world, like in the huddle, when you get 11 guys in the huddle, not all of them are the same.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: All of them come from socioeconomic background.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Different socioeconomic backgrounds are, all you know, different diversity and different beliefs and all the different things that come.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of sport and that's what I think FCA does better than anyone.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: And last year our theme was every, and we're talking about every person, every color, every race, every gender.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: All this stuff.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: We're talking about every person, every color, every race, every gender.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: All this stuff, right, every like.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: And so how can I instill that in my kids?
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Is that when my kids walk into a school because they go to a public school and they see a lot of crazy stuff, you know, and there's, there's things that I've heard them relay to me over the last week.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: That aren't necessarily what I want my eight-year-old hearing.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: However, I'm putting them in there to be a great person in a light and I'm confident in how I raise them that they will stand firm, right, they won't fall to the wayside.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And because I think, because my wife and I are tightly knit and we're on the same page, and if and if parents aren't on the same page and speaking the same vernacular and running the same play in the playbook, then your kids are going to we're running power, right, but your kids running counter left.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: You know like, and that's where I think is the disconnect.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: And that's how FCA, I think, brings us together and it also creates a.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: You know, we go to camps together, we stay in the dorms together, right, and it creates that experience for us and our kids to.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: You know, hear messages but also see kids like, who are just like them, who are going through struggles but find hope, and we need a lot more hope in this world.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: And so, whether you're Christian or not, at the end of the day, I firmly believe that a foundation like SCA is raising up warriors and the power of sport.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Right now we're seeing it more than ever guys using the platform right to inspire younger generations.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Now there's some, unfortunately, are using their platform for wrong right and doing dumb stuff and racing cars down the freeway and making bad decisions and all that kind of stuff.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: However, there's some that I think, if we can, you know, really shed light onto them, that they're saying, hey, I've been blessed with this opportunity, I want to pour it back into the youth of our generation so they can see how to do it correctly, and so I'm really passionate, so they can see how to do it correctly, and so I'm really passionate.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: It's why I coach is because I have an opportunity to impact a hundred kids every single year, and Billy Graham said that a coach will impact more in one year than most of us will ever do in a lifetime, and so so that's why FCA has been a big part of me.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: It's shaped me into the man I am today, and also in the competitor, the athlete and the coach.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people say, oh, you know like, oh, like you're, you're a Christian, you must be really soft.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, absolutely not Like I'm going to come smack you in the face and we're going to run it right down your throat.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: And we're going to and we're going to win, and that's the mindset is, like we are going to play in such a way that we are going to compete to win because of our faith, because of the foundation, because of you know, um, in my mind of because Jesus carried a cross after being whipped, beaten, spit on, and he did it all the way up the mountain.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So what it?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: So, because I'm tired, because someone said no to me, because someone broke up with me like come on, get out of your room.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Like you're soft, right, like that's.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I have no time for soft, passive men in this world.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: It's just drives me bonkers, I have no time for it and so.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm on a mission to raise real men and, and and I'm starting in my own home with my two sons and my daughter will be the most confident, courageous, bold woman you'll ever meet, because I speak life in her every single day and I want her to know who she is, who she is, and her identity is not what Instagram tells her.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Big reason why they don't have Instagram or any phone or anything of that nature, because I'm a firm believer in not having that right now.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: But I want to be the person.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I want to be the image of a man in her life, so she can go as she moves on, you know, and gets older and boys start trying to date her.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: I want, I want her to be like no, I know what a real man looks like.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I want her to be like no, I know what a real man looks like.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Sorry, no time for you.
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that man.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Well, I love having a tough daughter, so I love that we're on the same page of that one.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I do, before I forget, I got to give love to Coach Valak because he's a former Lute.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: If my memory's correct, he was a former, I think.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Season.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Two-ish Coach Valak fantastic, go Liberty.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: Two-ish coach valid fantastic, go liberty.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: And then, uh, ryan johnson, uh, fca.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: Um, he's and he was.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: He was a former guest too, so I wanted to make sure.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I almost forgot to get those guys in love.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: But, um, I, I think I think there is so much about, you know, you know the religion piece.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: It does get put in different.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: You know, some people have strong opinions.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: Either way, you know, I personally I don't we don't, I don't go to church, but I'm very faith based.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I'm very, um, spiritual, um, I, I like every morning I wake up, I mean I look at a scripture.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I don't, I don't know what it means, but sometimes I'm like, ooh, and I like the habit of like the Bible app that tells me how many days in a row I've done it, and but I also love I, I like, from a faith perspective, like, um, I do gratitude work every morning.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: So, like in my journal, the first thing I say is God, thanks for waking me up today.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: And I literally, spencer, when I do it I find myself smiling, like I physically find myself smiling, because I'm like oh yeah, I got, I got a chance to do something today.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: I get a chance to go, hey, like, oh yeah, I got, I got a chance to do something today.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: I get a chance to go.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Hey, grateful to be a dad today, grateful to spend time with Riley last night, grateful that I get to see Ryder today.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Like, and when I'm putting like positivity and these you know calm affirmations or thoughts, it just, it just makes you happy.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: And you talked to your about your dad early in the episode about a mentor by Bob I.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: I never met Trevor, but I met that's Bob's son, but rest in peace Trevor, who I met actually through him.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: I knew of him through Limitless Minds.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I was a consultant for them for a couple of years and so I got to know.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Never met Russ, but I met his brother, harrison, and Trevor is.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: I'm sure you've read it Takes what it Takes.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, great book, and my daughter's actually reading that right now.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to get her to read it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: She doesn't like reading, but I'm like you're going to read this thing and but I think you know, summarizing what you said, I think that's such a good, a good thing to talk about as dads, because it's it is.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: It's easy to hide behind a keyboard, it's easy not to talk about tough things.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: It's easy to you know.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Well, he doesn't believe what I believe in.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: He's not a Democrat, well, I'm out.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: He's not a Republican, I'm out.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: Well, it's like well, why don't you be curious and learn why and I think there's so many people in our society that that they argue and they can't be friends because the media and social media keeps feet hitting our feed with putting more of that thought into you, versus wait, wait a minute, stop, and uh.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: So I think I think shout out to your brother for for instilling those thoughts in your kids and teaching those things, cause it's important and we need more of that out there, brother.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I was just going to just add into it like from you know, parents of athletes, right, if you're like, have your kid go to the coach and have that conversation, right, like that's one of our things is like, if, if a parent says something, we go to the kid and be like hey, do you feel the same?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: way and and honestly, like I, have your kids learn how to handle conflict early if they're disgruntled about playing time or not getting involved Like we are.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: We have POU.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: We always say we're probably one of the most relational staffs you'll ever see.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Our head coach is extremely relational and he's like my door is always open and he always hears every kid out and.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: But I think we got to keep instilling that in our kids to not be afraid of having those tough conversations.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: You're going to work for a bad boss, you're going to work for something you don't like.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: You're right, and there's things are going to go bad.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: And the old, I think it's a Socrates, a man's face when a true character judge and faced with adversity.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: And it's funny, my daughter, she used to play in a high level, high level hoop team as like a 14 or 15 year old and I remember one time we went um, they went to Virginia without us and uh, her and a couple of teammates were like they're been varsity players since their freshman year, but she went in the squad.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: They played six girls all weekend, uh, so she traveled to Virginia, miss school, played like five minutes all weekend and you know, dad, know dad, me, was like what the hell's going on?
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: And uh, it just didn't make sense, right, and we got blown out.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: It's not, it's not like.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: We were like good too, and uh, but I, I just asked questions.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: I said, right, well, tell me how you feel about that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: She said it sucks, I go, well, why she's like, I don't, don't, doesn't make sense, I go, I'm not going to go talk to him, um, because that's going to only make them more defensive.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: I said let's, let's practice, let's, let's walk through what this conversation is going to look like.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: And, uh, she ended up doing it and the end of the coach I'm not going to name them, but that had really bad answers and didn't make sense and so she kind of came to her own conclusion.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: You know, I didn't want to quit because you know I think I teach is the wrong thing.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: But I remember going to a buddy who was a high level high school coach.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: He's like you got to get her off that team.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Like this is going to not good for her growth at that age.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: She's got to be able to compete and play and she's too good and I'm like.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: So I just kept asking questions.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: And this is where, like I was like blown away, spencer, one time I said, well, I want to make sure you know, like when we, when we leave this, you're not quitting.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Quitting is mean you quit the sport.
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: She goes, dad, if I stay on this team, I'm quitting myself.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: But having the experience to go through that, um, it creates grit, it creates resilience, it creates toughness.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: And um, now and then, like funny that she went to something and flourished and like, or she went to like another level just because of that, that that experience and um, okay.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: So I want to hit on how many dads out there get to have their dad coach with them.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: I mean that's like so cool.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Um, talk about like.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: I mean I'm sure your, your eight year old bear, probably thinks, oh, grandpa's coaching with dad.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: Like, maybe talk a little bit about that and the joy you get out of coaching with your pops every day.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was perfect timing.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: You know, when I got to PLU in 2018, my dad was at a school called Horizon Christian High School down in Oregon and just numbers were dwindling at the time and the administration and my dad had stepped out as the administrator so he's no longer the principal and the administration and my dad had stepped out as the administrator, so he's no longer the principal of the school, and so football just wasn't a priority at that time for the other administrators and unfortunately, just kind of died out.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: And so he, they closed the program there and and I get hired at PLU and he conversation was like, hey, I would love for you to come, come be a part of this.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: He's still living in Oregon at the time and so what he would do is, on Tuesday morning, jump on the Amtrak, I'd pick him up before Tuesday practice, he'd sleep on our guest bed downstairs and then I drive him to the track on Thursday after practice and he'd go home and then, you know, miss our Friday walkthrough and then come meet us wherever the game was at on Saturday and um, so we did that the first year and then him and my mom decided that they would sell their house and, uh, move up here.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: So now they live in and, uh, rent a cool house, you know, downtown kind of, still come near the water and um, and so just getting to have him at you know late in his life, you know at 74, 75 years old or whatever to you know share, that has been special.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: He obviously doesn't run and move and sometimes, you know, fully process the way like he used to, obviously, and he and he would be the first one to tell you that.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: But what he does bring is he brings a lot of wisdom and um, and I can tell right, like he's not one that gets worked up too quickly, he sits back and he evaluates and then he'll come to me and like, hey, maybe you should think of this.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Or hey, you know, if you say this a little differently, stuff like that, right, sharing just those little nuggets of wisdom has been so fruitful for me and in our seven seasons here at PLU together and technically this is nine years coaching, because we coached two years at the high school level together when he was head coach at Horizon Christian, and he hired me to be his office coordinator down there, and so, yeah, it's been a real and and obviously my mom's super invested into it and she's our biggest advocates and then being able to have our kids at practice.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: And then when I get distracted, right, they go and hang out with grandpa on the side, and so that that's been really awesome to to have him be a part of it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: And but, yeah, at his age I'm not asking him to run routes with the tight ends, um, but he he's not hitting the sled, um, but he can.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: He can definitely bring a lot of wisdom and value, uh, to these guys and and they call them pops, um, you know, our players call them pops or Papa Grace and uh, um, I think some of our young guys, as they get older, right, as they get older in their career at PLU, they start to realize like I could learn something from this guy.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Some of the freshmen I think sometimes maybe they don't think that way right away, um, but a prime example is we just had a fifth year senior graduate started over 40 plus years for our games, for us, um, and he's asked my dad to officiate his wedding, you know, this next summer in Hawaii and uh, and so I think, like you know, you see, like the respect and hey, like I can go to him for some advice.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: He's lived it, he's been through it, so that's that's what's been really cool to see.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's awesome.
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: Uh, that's what's been really cool to see.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's awesome.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: Uh, you're, you're making.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't, I don't know if you ever met him, but coach, uh, coach Western Frosty, uh, you're kind of making.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: I'm visualizing your dad being the Frosty of today's day.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: You know, and for those that don't know, frosty was like is PLU, is one of all time, one of the actually one of the winningest coaches in ncaa history.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Um, I played against coach frosty and um 96, my first ever game like real action was against plu.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: We got in the shootout.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: I came in off the bench is uncle rico moment here?
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: Everybody hang with me.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Uh, we were down like 28, six or something.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: We got in the shootout.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: We we lost 44-41 in Ellensburg and such a fun game to be a part of.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: And Frost, I still remember him drawing plays and looking on the lake.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: He's a little bored.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: But anyway, back to your pops man.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: What a cool experience that you get and it just warms my heart just hearing about that and just visualizing kind of what that must be like for everybody involved in the family.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: Okay, no-transcript instill in your kids that maybe other dads from at home might be able to take from our conversation today.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think one of them.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: The first one comes to my, my mind.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: When you ask that it's just integrity, um and uh, we've been having conversations right about, like my daughter at five, something may happen and in her mind she's telling a little white lie, right, you know.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: And then my wife keeps digging and keeps digging, you know, and gets her to confess and be like no, you did do this or whatever, right, and and just that lesson of, like, own your actions, um, we're gonna fail and we still love you.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Right, like, just because you messed up, made a bad decision, right, like, we're gonna help, support you.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: And when I think of integrity, you know one of the things I remember I'll never forget my dad telling me he was interviewed for a job and they asked what's integrity mean to you?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: And the root word integer.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: And it's like it's whole and complete, with nothing left out.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Whole and complete with nothing left out.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And so how can we raise kids with integrity that are whole and complete, with nothing left out, right Like they know who they are, they know, um, hey, like, in this situation, is it good or bad?
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Right, and we're all going to make mistakes, we're going to have grace, um, but I think that's definitely a pillar that I would say is something we want to continue and sell our kids, um, uh, my wife from a very young age, with our kids at a young age, you know, be in bed, you know, get put them down to bed, and and she'd have them kind of repeat affirmations, right, like I'm brave, I'm confident, I'm courageous, I'm smart, right.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: So I think this I would say a pillar of um, just self-confidence, right, this belief in themselves, um, because we're in a culture right now that I think is trying to put that down.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: And I want to have kids that are confident in who they are.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: And so how do we, how do we speak life into them, how do we continue to uplift them?
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: And, uh, one of the things right, like I don't want my kids to think their identity is in sport.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: And son's playing flag football right now and at the end of the game, as proud of as I am because he can, he can sling it, he can do some really good things and I'm excited to watch him grow and develop in sport I always try and tell him I just love watching you play, not, I love that throw on second down where you hit the dig.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: You know like not necessarily that just I love watching you play.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I want him to have the mindset of I'm just dad just is enjoying me competing.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Whether you win, whether you lose, whether you're successful, doesn't matter to me, I just love that you're out there and I always make the joke.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like I go bear.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: All your other friends are sitting on the couch eating Cheetos and playing video games, but you're out here competing and having fun and using your gifts and talents.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I love watching that, you know, and no matter what happens, Where'd you learn that?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: I heard that recently, probably the last year, I can't remember who, but I heard someone say that.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Who was it?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Well, I'd be willing to bet it's Coach Bruce Brown.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: It might have been Bruce.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Bruce personally.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure, right, all of us steal something from someone.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: But yeah.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: So, coach Brown, well, hey, I love those things you're teaching in your house.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: Shout out, that's a fan, those are fantastic.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: Um, but coach, coach Brown's former guests on the show, um, coach Brown wrote, uh, an article called the car ride home.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: They spoke about it and it, it.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: I actually read that article when I was my son was like seven or eight and it.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: And I love that you're doing that, dude, because you could be like, well, hey, state champ, competitive, ultra, this, ultra, that, whatever.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: Blah, blah, blah.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: But you're still not tying an outcome of a game to who your son is or who your daughter is or who you are, because in the end it's all going to go away.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: You know, like when I get to speak to companies, I love what you just said because it's like I had a really, I would say, a good run in corporate.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: It's over.
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: I had a good career at central playing football.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: It's over.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: It doesn't change who I am, you know, and I love that you're teaching that because it is, it's easy to get wrapped up and I'll make sure this is linked in the show notes, this article about the car ride home.
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: People can look up, bruce Brown, but I remember the one time I got to go meet him, my buddy, josh McFadden, introduced me to him and I remember I talked to him and had him on the podcast.
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: I said hey man, coach, I'd love to like buy a lunch.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: He's like nah, I can't let you do that.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: I'm like God, no, I get it.
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: You probably get these requests all the time.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: He's like but if you want to come to my house, I'll make you lunch.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: I'm like what I'm like I'm in.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: So I literally drove up North and just ask questions and be around him, and so you obviously hit a nerve with that.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: That, because it just brought me back to that, and I hope that, parents, if you're taking notes, like I am like that, what Spencer just said is so, so, so, so important, because if they're good, they're going to be good.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: If they're, if they're whatever their sport, they're going to figure it out.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: It's nothing like you talking to coach or you do whatever you're going to do, they're going to figure it out themselves.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: Um, I love that, though.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Um, okay, if you think of an area your dad game maybe that you don't, you know it's not where you want it Um, that you're, you're willing to say, man, this is an area of my game.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: I got to get better and, um, you know I'll leave my witness here for me it's, it's constantly working on my patients.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: Um, but, spencer, tell me and maybe, as I said, tell me an area of your dad game that maybe might speak to other dads at home that, because none of us are perfect, we all find ways to get better.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: Tell me what comes to mind.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what comes to mind, um, right away is when I come home and that when you walk through the door and you know you've been busy, been working all day, and you come and you walk through the door and it's chaos, right, and maybe the house is a mess, the kitchen may be a mess or whatever, right, like in my wife.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: She knows kind of my, my love language in regards to like I'm.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty clean, I'm an organized guy and she does a great job.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: And then I come home and sometimes I want to jump right into okay, I'm home, now, I got to do my house projects, right, I got to clean, I got to do that.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: And then my son comes to me or my daughter comes to me and they're like hey, will you go play?
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Will you come throw the ball?
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Will you come throw the ball?
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Will you go ride the bike?
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Will you do this?
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: And there's that moment and I'm not perfect at this, quite honestly, I suck at it Majority of time is like, hey, I'm tired, I still got this to do.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Or hey, I've got this recruiting call I got to go make, or things constantly come up.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: But I noticed that when I come home, I put my phone in the room and I say, all right, let's go to the park.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: And if it's 10, 15 minutes of just playing catch or being present, I'm dog tired.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I don't, I want to do it because I'm a dad, but I also just want to sit down right and and or knock out other projects that haven't been able to finish today and cross off lists.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: You know the to-do list, but that's an area of my dad game that I need to get better at.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: There's a song that's like a country song I can't remember who, um, but I've heard it and it's like he's talking about it on his drive home and he's like counting his blessings, his gratitude.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: He's like I keep hitting, you know, I hit three green lights and, uh, I'll, I'll find it to you, I'll text it to you, casey and he's like you know, and then there's a line in there it's like the second chorus and he gets there.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: He's like I get home, he sit on the couch and he's like but not tonight Like I'm going to go throw the pigskin with my son, I'm going to tuck my kids in and read a story tonight, I'm going to spend time with the wife after dinner and do those things.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Like he's talking about that and I was like man, I can really resonate with that because, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm tired, tired at the end of the day.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I'm up early, go late and um, so that's a part of my dad game is just being present.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: And you know, we live in a great neighborhood, we got great community, great neighborhood, but and I'll say this if any parent ever does listen to this not not enough parents are outside and, quite honestly, you look at our house and there's probably about 15 kids on average in our driveway and it's because my wife and I go out and we play, we're present, and our kids see that.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: And now the other kids come and knock on our door and they ask Bear if his dad could come play and be the all-time quarterback or whatever.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: And I want to do that as much as possible and that's the life I want my kids to experience, but it is hard to do it consistently and um, so that's an area that I know I need to work on.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: Love it.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: Well, the fact that you said out loud it'll be present in your mind, it'd be in your subconscious next time it happens and I'd be willing to bet the times when you do it you'd never regret it doing it, oh I'm.
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so tired, I'm so mad.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: I just played catch my son.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: You probably get energy out of it, just like working out.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: I always tell my kids like you'll never regret exercising, you'll never regret working out, and the days you don't want to do it are the days you're gonna have your best workouts.
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: Like spoke to me.
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: Like, as I flashback on my kids were young, like whether it's you know, running routes, playing catch, going to putt with my son, um, you know my daughter, our thing is rebounding, like I rebound for her and it was like my favorite thing to do with my daughter and, um, you know, my wife has so many strengths and she's talented, talented woman and but like, the reboundings are jam.
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: You know, and wife has so many strengths and she's talented, talented woman and but like the reboundings are jam, you know, and like, uh, and like me.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: Back to the patients I, when I led my witness here, I said patient.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: My dad was super impatient.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Rest in peace pops.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: But uh, when you're when I say it, then I know I'm cognizant of it.
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: Right, and like there's this phrase, thoughts become things.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: When we put these thoughts into our head, negative or positive, they, we can manifest them.
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: So I think, for me, I love just again back to you, said when the things you said, facing the diversity head on.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: That's why I like asking dads that question, because no dad's perfect, but we all can get better each and every day to make the choice.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: So, okay, if people want to learn more about Pacific Lutheran University football, they want to learn more about FCA, they want to get involved, they want to follow the Lutes, tell me what's the best way people can learn more about Coach Crace and what you're doing with FCA?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: Where can I send them to learn more about these fantastic programs?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Um, obviously, with PLU football.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, just go to golootscom, um, and uh, we do camps, you know, all throughout the summer we do I, I, I do quarterback trainings and camps.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: I've been working with kids all around the South Puget sound area um January, february, march, april.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Uh, this last off season was awesome.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I think we impacted over 25 quarterbacks, um, in the, in the greater area, a greater South sound area, and so, um, my email's on there, um, I think my Twitter handle or X handle is just my name, at Spencer grace.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Um, my personal Instagram is at Spencer grace, my coaching Instagram is at coach grace, and yeah, so those are good ways.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Fca pnwfcafootballorg is our website for FCA football.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: We're going into year three of our flag football season, starting in February.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: We've doubled from year one to year two, with 75 kids, eight teams.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: We've doubled from year one to year two with 75 kids, eight teams, and, and I'll tell you right now, my son's playing in a flag football league.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: That isn't mine and it.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: This is just.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: You know, this is a humble brag.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: It doesn't touch what we do with FCA flag football, from professionalism to communication, to referees, to messaging.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Every week we have a character word that we use with the kids.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: We talk about boldness, we talk about courage, we talk about humility, we talk about strength, and then at the end of the season, what we do is we award every kid one of those current, one of those words.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: So we don't get participation trophies, we give blessings, and so we speak a blessing of the kid, like the coach says hey, you were the courageous winner of the year, here's why the smallest kid on the field, but you didn't back down from anything, and I'm a firm believer in that.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: I think, uh, we're, we're, we're doing new sports way way too wrong, like we're doing it the wrong way right now.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: And and so I'm in the on a mission to change the game, especially in the game of football.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Um, with the climate of seven on seven, with flag football, with parents getting in fights in the in the parking lot and different things.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: In the horror stories you hear that um, and it's just unacceptable in our league and and you haven't seen it, and um, and so I firmly believe in year three we're going to actually double again and I think we'll be at over 150 kids in this league.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: And so if you want to learn more about how to get your kids involved in good foundational sports.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Look at FCA.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: There are no one in the world that, I think, does it better than FCA.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Whether you believe it or not, at least your kid's going to get pointed to a character traits and is going to get developed.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: And coaches that truly care, because everyone's gone through whether it's 360 coaching, 3d coaching, different trainings, all that kind of stuff, and and we just do it the right way.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: So so, yeah, camps, leagues, teams, um, you know, coaches, opportunities for your coach on this call and, and you, you want to get plugged into a community every Friday 6am like clockwork, whether I'm there.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Or coach Valak, like you mentioned, which we were on this morning and I and I told him that we were hopping on uh together and he sends his best to you and um, and so so, yeah, my um, yeah, just just probably Google me and you'll find my social security number or something out there.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know Um, but but yeah, not, not too, not too difficult to get information out.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: We'll make sure all that's linked in the show notes.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: And I love, I love that you did the humble bride, because more families need to know about the organization, what you're doing, and I think that's you're right.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: I, more families need to know about the organization, what you're doing, and I think that's you're right.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: I mean parents fighting afterwards.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: What's so stupid?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: The message it sends, the example you set for yourself should be embarrassed to everybody.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: And I hope this wake up call if you're listening to this right now and I don't mean to judge, but that's not the right way to raise your kids and good for you for trying to find a way to solve that problem.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: And when I think of Coach Valak, one of my favorite stories is I don't know if his pops are still around, but if he is, hallelujah.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: But he's not.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: Rest in peace.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: But he would go to see his dad and they would do his dad would do like five minute planks, like some crazy, like old dude I'm like a five minute, it's something crazy like the longest plank ever, and he would literally go do like exercise with his dad.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: And I still remember that.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: I can't remember Came to my mind, but okay, last part of the episode we're going to what's called lightning round.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: My job is to show you all the negative hits of taking too many hits in college not bong hits, but football hits.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: Show them we got a little bit of a screw loose, like probably you do too as a quarterback, uh-huh, uh.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: Your job is to answer these questions as quickly as you can.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: My job is try to get a giggle out of you, okay, are you ready?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: I'm ready?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, true or false?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: Pops crace holds the plu record for biggest, for most dead, most pounds uh, deadlifted at 868 pounds.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: False, false, okay, uh, true or false.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: The lo are going to win the national championship this year, true.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: There we go.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Tell me the most yards you ever throw in a football game.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: It's over 400.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Come on, you got to know Honestly, I think it was like probably like 410.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: You got me I was 406.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: If I went into your phone right now, what would be the one song?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: You'd be like man Casey especially.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: Listen to that.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: What, what, what.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: What song would surprise me?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: As in like, like, surprise, like I listened to that kind of um and uh, I mean there's probably some old school like rap, like our generation like Nelly, you know, or something along those lines.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: You can find me in St Louis.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: If you were to go on a vacation right now to shoot your wife, no kids, where are you going?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Oh man, we're definitely going to.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would say, I mean, hawaii is quick, you know, easy, but like we would we somewhere warm.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: I want to go somewhere warm, tropical, she wants to go somewhere where she could probably, you know, get rich history and tradition and and all that.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: So so it's going to be, uh, you know, some, some conflict there as we figure out, but, um, definitely some warm Island where I can sit on, sit on the beach and, uh, you know, have Corona and just sit back for a little bit.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: There we go.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: Sounds good.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: Uh, if I came to your house for dinner tonight, what would we have?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Ooh, steak, mashed potatoes, corn, uh, salad, yeah, that's my go-to Sounds good.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Um, tell me the last book you read.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, the last book I read was actually the score that matters um, by Ryan Hawk and um, uh, yeah, and I'm I'm reading um raising a modern day night right now, ryan Hawk, former guest in the podcast Yep, interviewed him.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: Great dude.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: Um, if there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Um, well, I mean, I told you before like one of my hopes and dreams is to write a book called the greatest coach you never knew.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Um, I would kind of, I would hope that would be about my life there we go.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Be humble enough to you know, I'm coaching a little d3 football here in Tacoma, washington, but we still talk about Frosty Westring, that's right.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: So you don't have to be at the highest level to be a great coach, and so, yeah, I would hope that I the greatest coach you never knew.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Just in great meaning, I impacted more lives than wins.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: Love it Now.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: Okay, the greatest coach you ever knew.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: Believe it or not, spencer, this thing is selling out everywhere.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: Airports can't hold it, barnes, noble, they can't keep it on the shelves.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: And so now Netflix is going to make a movie about the greatest coach you never knew, and you are now the casting director.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: I need to know who's going to star you in this critically acclaimed, hit new movie Matthew McConaughey for sure.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: All right, all right all right, all right.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: And last question Tell me two words to describe your wife Patient, and oh, there's a lot of words.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: I mean she's patient and just absolutely loving.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I mean this she's got a heart for people, for animals, for I mean, I've never seen anyone more compassionate than her.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: There we go Lightning rounds over.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 5: We'll call those those second words hyphenated, so you got two words in there, so that counts as two words.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: But yeah, man, it's been a blast getting to know you.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: I love your mindset, I love the humility, I love the values you're teaching your kids, I love the values you're teaching the lutes, I love the values you're teaching through FCA.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: And, uh, it's been just a blast spending time with you.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: Um, I know we're going to hopefully meet in the future one day, maybe on the golf course or, uh, the quarterback room or wherever we're going to meet, but, um, it's been a blast spending time with you.
• 1:09:15
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• 1:09:18
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• 1:09:20
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• 1:09:25
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• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Just really great for your time today.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: So thanks again, brother.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: Appreciate, you, appreciate you, thank you.