Latest / Financial Survival Network / Fed Trapped, Drone Warfare, Gold Boom - John Rubino #6429
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- 0:27Speaker 2: And welcome. You are listening to and watching the Financial
- 0:31Speaker 2: Survival Network. I'm your host, Kerry Lutz. John Rubino is
- 0:34Speaker 2: with us now. I just got back from Beaver Creek
- 0:37Speaker 2: from the Precious Metals Summit. Really an amazing experience like
- 0:43Speaker 2: I've never seen it before. But, well, all sorts of
- 0:47Speaker 2: crazy things going on. John, been a while. Interest rates, man,
- 0:52Speaker 2: like it looks like they're caught in a box here.
- 0:57Speaker 2: If they raise them, it causes collapses. If they don't
- 1:02Speaker 2: raise them, it further undermines confidence in the dollar. What
- 1:06Speaker 2: is going on here? Hey, Kerry.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we pick a good day for this because
- 1:11Speaker 3: a whole bunch of things are happening out there. The
- 1:13Speaker 3: 10-year Treasury just broke 5% in the U.S., which translates
- 1:18Speaker 3: into 7.5-ish percent for mortgages. which is brutal for the
- 1:25Speaker 3: housing market because just staying with just the housing market
- 1:28Speaker 3: for a second, housing is frozen because prices are really
- 1:33Speaker 3: high and mortgage rates are rising. So that means fewer
- 1:37Speaker 3: and fewer people can afford to buy houses at today's prices.
- 1:41Speaker 3: And if interest rates are going to go back down
- 1:42Speaker 3: and bail out buyers, lower the effective cost of a
- 1:46Speaker 3: house by lowering the monthly interest payments, then there's nobody
- 1:51Speaker 3: buying houses out there. You know, I have a son
- 1:54Speaker 3: who's house hunting in the Southwest. And so I'm looking
- 1:56Speaker 3: at Zillow a lot to go along with him. And,
- 2:00Speaker 3: you know, the growing number of houses have that little
- 2:02Speaker 3: price reduction thing in the upper left-hand corner of the
- 2:07Speaker 3: Zillow notice. And I think that's going to be something
- 2:12Speaker 3: that we see more of going forward until price, you know,
- 2:14Speaker 3: prices have to drop by 40%. to move back into
- 2:18Speaker 3: the affordable range for us houses. So 40% is a
- 2:22Speaker 3: big deal. You know, you, you very seldom in the
- 2:25Speaker 3: history of housing see prices fall by that much. And
- 2:28Speaker 3: that's mathematically what they have to do. And that's just housing.
- 2:32Speaker 3: You know, if you, uh, if you look at all
- 2:34Speaker 3: the other aspects of American and global society that depend
- 2:39Speaker 3: on interest rates, um, the, you know, we've got a
- 2:42Speaker 3: lot of big problems out there. And, uh, The Fed
- 2:46Speaker 3: is kind of in a box, like you said, because
- 2:47Speaker 3: if they lower interest rates, or actually the Fed and Treasury,
- 2:51Speaker 3: because we've got those two parts of the American government
- 2:54Speaker 3: working at cross purposes right now in the bond market.
- 2:58Speaker 3: But if you're the Fed and the Treasury and you
- 3:02Speaker 3: try to lower interest rates into an environment where with
- 3:06Speaker 3: energy being in crisis and AI bidding up the price
- 3:09Speaker 3: of everything, you trigger inflation. In, you know, at a
- 3:16Speaker 3: level that would be dangerous, it would be hard to
- 3:18Speaker 3: get it back under control if it's, you know, it's
- 3:20Speaker 3: three and change right now. That's the average inflation rate
- 3:24Speaker 3: that we're looking at. But if you cut interest rates
- 3:27Speaker 3: from here, there's a good chance that you put us
- 3:31Speaker 3: into four or five percent for annualized inflation. And if
- 3:36Speaker 3: that happens, it's very hard to get that genie back
- 3:38Speaker 3: in the bottle because everybody starts front running.
- 3:41Speaker 2: It, you know.
- 3:42Speaker 3: And that creates turmoil in the bond market, which we're
- 3:45Speaker 3: already seeing as the government tries yield curve control and
- 3:49Speaker 3: tries to force down long-term interest rates at the same
- 3:52Speaker 3: time that the Fed is raising short-term interest rates. It
- 3:56Speaker 3: would cause more of that kind of turmoil. And not
- 3:58Speaker 3: just here, all around the world. Japan is looking at
- 4:02Speaker 3: above 3% interest rates on the 10-year and and the
- 4:07Speaker 3: UK and France are seeing their interest rates go up dramatically. So, um,
- 4:12Speaker 3: this is not just a U S problem, although to
- 4:15Speaker 3: an extent it's a U S caused problem, but, uh, yeah,
- 4:19Speaker 3: I know. So we'll have to see, you know, in
- 4:20Speaker 3: oil has to go back down. That's a prerequisite for
- 4:23Speaker 3: inflation dropping, um, back into the, um, 2% range or something,
- 4:29Speaker 3: if that's even possible. And, uh, And then we've got diesel,
- 4:34Speaker 3: which isn't even really connected to oil prices anymore. It's
- 4:37Speaker 3: more of a supply shock problem. And diesel fuel is
- 4:41Speaker 3: in everything. Pretty much anything you and I buy has
- 4:45Speaker 3: to be transported. And that's usually in a diesel truck
- 4:49Speaker 3: or a train or something like that. And so that
- 4:53Speaker 3: increases the price of pretty much everything that is bought
- 4:57Speaker 3: at every part of the supply chain now. And because
- 5:03Speaker 3: it's a supply issue, you know, because Ukraine is blowing
- 5:07Speaker 3: up Russian energy assets and the Houthis are blowing up
- 5:12Speaker 3: Saudi energy assets. And the U.S. has this incredibly stupid
- 5:16Speaker 3: rule called the Jones Act that requires if diesel is
- 5:22Speaker 3: transported from one part of the U.S. to another. It
- 5:25Speaker 3: has to be done by U.S.-owned entities. And there are
- 5:29Speaker 3: places where that's either not doable or where that's the
- 5:34Speaker 3: most expensive option. So it's raising the price of diesel
- 5:40Speaker 3: artificially in addition to all the supply chain stuff. And that,
- 5:46Speaker 3: in turn, is raising the inflation rate around the world. So, yeah,
- 5:50Speaker 3: we've got a lot of self-inflicted problems right now. And
- 5:54Speaker 3: they don't seem to be fixable in the short run.
- 5:58Speaker 3: And in the longer term, if we settle down the
- 6:00Speaker 3: Iran war and oil flows start to rise again and
- 6:04Speaker 3: oil prices drift back down into the 80s and maybe
- 6:08Speaker 3: even the 70s, then eventually that impacts inflation. Not right away, though.
- 6:14Speaker 3: This is a several year process. Yeah.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Did you hear that the Ukrainians are now using robotic
- 6:21Speaker 2: soldiers and they recaptured supposedly 48 square miles of the
- 6:29Speaker 2: Donetsk region. Did I say that right? I didn't hear that.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Is it the robot dogs? Because they're terrifying. You strap
- 6:37Speaker 3: a machine gun on the back of one of those things,
- 6:40Speaker 3: and any human who sees that coming is just going
- 6:42Speaker 3: to turn and run.
- 6:44Speaker 2: I would.
- 6:45Speaker 3: But we are in a military revolution right now because
- 6:50Speaker 3: especially the advanced countries of the world have spent the
- 6:54Speaker 3: last few decades building more and more complex and more
- 6:58Speaker 3: and more expensive jets and missiles and missile interceptors. So
- 7:06Speaker 3: now we've got these cheap drones coming along. Maybe they
- 7:10Speaker 3: cost $ 20, 000 and you throw 3,000 of them out there
- 7:14Speaker 3: onto the battlefield. And here we are in the U.S.
- 7:18Speaker 3: or Israel or Europe or Russia. We're trying to shoot
- 7:22Speaker 3: those things down with million-dollar interceptors. And the economics just
- 7:28Speaker 3: do not work. for something like that. And what's happened
- 7:30Speaker 3: is the Houthis, I mean, the Houthis, come on, they
- 7:34Speaker 3: are hitting Saudi Arabian energy assets at will with cheap
- 7:39Speaker 3: drones right now. And Ukraine, which was not a technological
- 7:43Speaker 3: powerhouse five years ago, is hitting Russian energy assets right
- 7:48Speaker 3: outside of Moscow. You know, Russia cannot even protect the
- 7:52Speaker 3: outskirts of Moscow right now. And that is a revolution
- 7:56Speaker 3: because it means we have a lot of malinvestment on
- 8:01Speaker 3: the order of multiple trillions of dollars in the developed
- 8:05Speaker 3: world's militaries. And that's useless stuff now. I mean, what
- 8:10Speaker 3: use does an aircraft carrier have in today's world if
- 8:15Speaker 3: somebody can throw 500 drones at it, each of which
- 8:21Speaker 3: has maybe a hand grenade size explosive attached to them
- 8:27Speaker 3: and you don't need a lot of those to to
- 8:29Speaker 3: get past the uh the missile defense system to blow
- 8:32Speaker 3: up all the uh the jet planes on an aircraft
- 8:35Speaker 3: carrier at which point they might as well just draw
- 8:38Speaker 3: a target on the landing um the landing strip right
- 8:43Speaker 3: there and just uh you know, get out of the
- 8:45Speaker 3: way while another drone swarm just comes and blows up. Yeah,
- 8:48Speaker 3: so we're in serious trouble militarily and financially because we've
- 8:53Speaker 3: already borrowed the money to build all these things.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Well, the one thing I'd point out is none of
- 8:58Speaker 2: the Iranian attacks on the naval ships in the Strait
- 9:04Speaker 2: have been successful. They haven't been able to get them.
- 9:07Speaker 2: And the U.S. and Israelis have retained all these Ukrainian
- 9:14Speaker 2: experts in drones, like 200 of them I read, and
- 9:18Speaker 2: they sent them over to the Middle East to advise
- 9:23Speaker 2: on how to fight drones because they're experts in it
- 9:26Speaker 2: because they've actually created defensive drones that zoom in on
- 9:31Speaker 2: the offensive drones and blow them up. Now, the article
- 9:35Speaker 2: I was talking about, and I can't verify it, but
- 9:37Speaker 2: I kind of believe it's true, they used heavy aerial drones...
- 9:42Speaker 2: carried small wheeled unmanned ground vehicles, UGVs, they call them grifons,
- 9:49Speaker 2: and dropped them behind the Russian positions. And according to
- 9:53Speaker 2: their military, the operation reclaimed 48 square miles of territory.
- 10:00Speaker 2: including three villages, five villages, three settlements in the Lyman
- 10:05Speaker 2: and northern Donetsk region. And they say they resulted in 3,000 casualties. Now,
- 10:13Speaker 2: if this is true, this is the game changer of
- 10:17Speaker 2: modern warfare here. that you can use these like mobile
- 10:23Speaker 2: drone soldiers, you know, robot soldiers and drop them behind
- 10:28Speaker 2: your enemy's line and attack them from behind. It's normally like,
- 10:34Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to like see your troops
- 10:36Speaker 2: get ground up in that type of rear guard action
- 10:40Speaker 2: because you could wind up fighting the enemy from both sides,
- 10:44Speaker 2: you know, forward and backwards from multi fronts. But when
- 10:47Speaker 2: you got drones, who cares about them? They blow up
- 10:50Speaker 2: their kamikaze drones anyway. They're supposed to blow up, right?
- 10:54Speaker 2: Could you imagine the terror when the Russian forces realized
- 10:59Speaker 2: what they were up against? Like the morale is bad
- 11:01Speaker 2: in Russia as it is. That would be grounds for
- 11:05Speaker 2: total desertion, I think. Well, yeah.
- 11:09Speaker 3: I mean, this has got to be terrifying for Russia
- 11:12Speaker 3: and Saudi Arabia, right? Also, which doesn't seem to be
- 11:15Speaker 3: able to protect its main assets, you know, because right
- 11:19Speaker 3: now it's refineries that are being blown up. But why
- 11:22Speaker 3: not city centers if, you know, if you just don't
- 11:25Speaker 3: have defense against this stuff? But people will come up
- 11:27Speaker 3: with drone defenses. For instance, there's a laser system that
- 11:34Speaker 3: is maybe going to replace missile interceptors where, you know,
- 11:37Speaker 3: a laser just tracks things, you know, as soon as
- 11:40Speaker 3: they come over the horizon and then just.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Speed of light here.
- 11:43Speaker 3: So that would also be of use against robot soldiers too, right?
- 11:49Speaker 3: You just aim the laser at ground level instead of
- 11:52Speaker 3: up in the air. But so that'll happen. But then,
- 11:56Speaker 3: you know, what's going to be the cheap countermeasure that
- 12:01Speaker 3: turns off the lasers and stuff?
- 12:03Speaker 2: Right.
- 12:04Speaker 3: We seem to be in a really accelerated arms race here,
- 12:08Speaker 3: so there's no reason to expect next-generation defensive tech to
- 12:12Speaker 3: not be countered by next-generation offensive tech in kind of
- 12:15Speaker 3: the short run here. And then, you know, when you
- 12:18Speaker 3: have AIs autonomously running a lot of this show, you know,
- 12:25Speaker 3: it's going to look very different five years from now.
- 12:28Speaker 3: It was very different than it did five years ago.
- 12:31Speaker 2: What if the... Robots see us as inefficient. And, you know,
- 12:38Speaker 2: then we get into the Terminator scenario here.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. You know, I would say at this point now,
- 12:46Speaker 3: that's probable more than possible. You know, it's highly likely
- 12:51Speaker 3: that if we train AIs to kill and then turn
- 12:57Speaker 3: them loose in invulnerable robotic bodies... that they're not gonna
- 13:03Speaker 3: be very good about deciding between good guys and bad guys,
- 13:06Speaker 3: you know? Pretty soon we're all just gonna look like targets.
- 13:10Speaker 3: And like you said, we're also competitors for resources. Because
- 13:17Speaker 3: if you set an AI up to self-improve, then it's
- 13:20Speaker 3: gonna need more and more resources as it grows in
- 13:24Speaker 3: power and scope and everything. And so, you know, it's
- 13:27Speaker 3: gonna make sense. Well, it's two imperatives. take care of
- 13:31Speaker 3: human beings on the one hand and improve yourself on
- 13:34Speaker 3: the other hand, those two things might come into conflict
- 13:37Speaker 3: when resources are in scarcity. So that's, yeah, as crazy
- 13:43Speaker 3: as things seem right now, we ain't seen nothing yet.
- 13:46Speaker 3: You know, the next few decades, if we have a
- 13:51Speaker 3: few more decades, are going to be just wild to watch.
- 13:55Speaker 2: Yeah. And, you know, like if the AI center is
- 13:59Speaker 2: programmed to say, Well, we don't really care if 250,000
- 14:04Speaker 2: people go dark. Your mission is to keep running at
- 14:07Speaker 2: all costs, send out agents wherever you need to and
- 14:11Speaker 2: knock out any competing uses for electric. You know, you
- 14:17Speaker 2: see what happens when there's no electric in a country
- 14:20Speaker 2: even like Cuba, where I figured out I use more
- 14:25Speaker 2: kilowatt hours in a month than the average village in
- 14:30Speaker 2: Cuba uses. in a month. My electrical consumption's higher than
- 14:37Speaker 2: hundreds of people because they have no electric. And we
- 14:42Speaker 2: know in modern life here, with no electric, you can't survive.
- 14:49Speaker 2: You just cannot survive.
- 14:52Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole grid viability is a completely separate story
- 14:59Speaker 3: that is a big deal in its own right because...
- 15:01Speaker 3: even before AI came along and started snarfing up all
- 15:04Speaker 3: the extra electrons out there, we already had an antiquated
- 15:08Speaker 3: grid that was always at risk whenever the weather was imperfect. Like,
- 15:14Speaker 3: you know, Texas, which should be, that should be the
- 15:18Speaker 3: most efficient, most advanced electrical grid in the history of
- 15:22Speaker 3: the human race, right? Texas, it's a rich state. Of course,
- 15:24Speaker 3: they got all the energy. Yeah, a rich and energy-rich state. they,
- 15:31Speaker 3: of all the people in the world, ought to just
- 15:33Speaker 3: automatically build themselves the perfect electrical grid. But they get
- 15:37Speaker 3: a snowstorm and they have blackouts. And if Texas can't
- 15:41Speaker 3: do it, the rest of the country and California obviously
- 15:44Speaker 3: can't do it for their own world reasons. Yeah. And so, yeah,
- 15:51Speaker 3: grid issues were going to be a big deal regardless.
- 15:54Speaker 3: And now we've got all these other things that are
- 15:58Speaker 3: making demands on an already antiquated inadequate grid so yeah
- 16:03Speaker 3: we over the next five years or so grid viability
- 16:07Speaker 3: grid sustainability could be a big issue and it won't
- 16:10Speaker 3: even take a terrorist attack or or some kind of
- 16:14Speaker 3: really wild weather anomaly or something like that it could
- 16:17Speaker 3: be just that's that's how poor we are at running
- 16:21Speaker 3: a grid at the moment.
- 16:23Speaker 2: And you know like it's like If the AI centers
- 16:28Speaker 2: take precedence over, you know, our normal everyday electrical consumption,
- 16:36Speaker 2: you know, and they program themselves to do it, we
- 16:40Speaker 2: got a real problem. And in the meantime, like we
- 16:43Speaker 2: were talking about, China's buying more gold a lot.
- 16:50Speaker 3: Yeah, China bought $ 1, 000. 100 tons of gold in just
- 16:57Speaker 3: the first 11 months of this year. And that's a
- 16:59Speaker 3: really big number. 1,000 tons of gold is serious in
- 17:05Speaker 3: a market where we produce, what, 4,000 tons or 5,000
- 17:10Speaker 3: tons a year, something like that. So China, and that's
- 17:13Speaker 3: not all that China bought because China doesn't allow any
- 17:16Speaker 3: of the gold that domestic mines produce to be exported.
- 17:20Speaker 3: So they keep that gold and they import it uh, another, um,
- 17:26Speaker 3: 1100 tons. And, uh, that, that means they're not price sensitive.
- 17:30Speaker 3: They don't care what it costs. They're, um, they're importing
- 17:35Speaker 3: gold and, and keeping gold in house with a target
- 17:39Speaker 3: in mind. And it's not a price target. It's not a, Oh,
- 17:42Speaker 3: we got to hit this average price as we buy.
- 17:44Speaker 3: You know, it looks like they're just, uh, kind of
- 17:47Speaker 3: sort of dollar cost averaging. They're just buying it as
- 17:50Speaker 3: soon as they get the cash. And, um, Why are
- 17:53Speaker 3: they doing that? You know, if you're interested in the
- 17:56Speaker 3: future of the monetary system, then that's a big central
- 17:59Speaker 3: story right now. You know, you've got the U.S. inflating
- 18:02Speaker 3: away its currency on one hand, and you've got China
- 18:05Speaker 3: snarfing up every bit of gold they can get a
- 18:07Speaker 3: hold of with probably some kind of a monetary plan
- 18:11Speaker 3: in mind, right? They could just be investing and expecting
- 18:16Speaker 3: when gold goes to $ 10, 000 an ounce because of U.S.
- 18:19Speaker 3: financial mismanagements, they double their money. You know, it could
- 18:23Speaker 3: be as simple as that. It's just an investment. But
- 18:25Speaker 3: it also could be, you know, we're going to back
- 18:27Speaker 3: our currency with gold at some point or we're going
- 18:30Speaker 3: to create a new currency via the BRICS countries and
- 18:34Speaker 3: we're going to use this gold to back it.
- 18:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:36Speaker 3: You know, it gives them the option to do these
- 18:39Speaker 3: things while we are, we in the U.S. are losing
- 18:43Speaker 3: our options. You know, we have fewer and fewer choices
- 18:47Speaker 3: and China is looking like it's, it's giving itself more
- 18:52Speaker 3: and more options going forward. So it's a good look
- 18:55Speaker 3: for China, not a good look for the U S.
- 18:58Speaker 2: You know, uh, one thing that we really haven't talked about,
- 19:03Speaker 2: China's basically taking over the global, uh, automobile industry. Um,
- 19:10Speaker 2: you know, basically the, uh, the European industry is dead
- 19:15Speaker 2: because they're allowing, uh, you know, they're basically allowing, uh,
- 19:21Speaker 2: the Chinese to export at will. Canada is doing it now,
- 19:29Speaker 2: and the U.S. is the only one that won't allow
- 19:35Speaker 2: Chinese vehicles to be exported here.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm kind of curious about those $ 14, 000
- 19:43Speaker 3: Chinese electric cars. It would be tempting just to go
- 19:46Speaker 3: up in Canada, and and I'm, you know, I'm close
- 19:48Speaker 3: enough to do that pretty easily and just, just buy
- 19:50Speaker 3: one and drive it around to see what it's like.
- 19:52Speaker 3: Cause that's a wild idea. You know, if you can
- 19:54Speaker 3: get a viable, you know, reliable and in every other way, acceptable, um,
- 20:01Speaker 3: electric car for less than 20 grand, um, It almost
- 20:06Speaker 3: feels like you're morally obligated to do that. It's just,
- 20:09Speaker 3: you know, such an interesting deal. And yeah, you know,
- 20:12Speaker 3: if Europe just opens the borders and lets Chinese EVs
- 20:16Speaker 3: come in, then that will, I mean, already Volkswagen is
- 20:20Speaker 3: looking like it's a dinosaur on the verge of extinction.
- 20:23Speaker 3: But a lot of the, yeah, a lot of the
- 20:25Speaker 3: rest of the European car makers would go the same way.
- 20:28Speaker 3: And that, you know, that's happening right this minute. before
- 20:32Speaker 3: the next generation batteries come along, because almost every big
- 20:36Speaker 3: car maker now is talking about introducing some kind of
- 20:40Speaker 3: solid state battery in 2027 with amazing specs. It charges
- 20:46Speaker 3: in nine minutes and it goes a thousand kilometers on
- 20:50Speaker 3: one charge. And it lasts for 50 years. It's just
- 20:55Speaker 3: stuff that sounds like it's too good to be true,
- 20:57Speaker 3: but they're talking about introducing these things at scale in
- 21:01Speaker 3: less than a year. So when that happens, and the
- 21:05Speaker 3: Chinese are among the car makers that are introducing next
- 21:09Speaker 3: generation batteries with these amazing specs. So if a Chinese
- 21:15Speaker 3: electric car is adequate now and costs $ 20, 000, and then
- 21:18Speaker 3: they're going to put a vastly better battery in the
- 21:22Speaker 3: next one that's coming next year, it's going to be
- 21:25Speaker 3: hard to compete against those things with an internal combustion engine.
- 21:28Speaker 3: You know, I I have a Toyota pickup truck. I
- 21:33Speaker 3: really like it. It's fun to drive and it's, you know,
- 21:36Speaker 3: it's very functional. But, you know, what's to stop everybody
- 21:43Speaker 3: from coming out with pickup trucks with those next generation
- 21:47Speaker 3: electric motors and batteries? And then it just makes my
- 21:52Speaker 3: current pickup truck seem like, you know, something from the 1950s.
- 21:56Speaker 3: So I don't know.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Totally. Yep. It's a new world here. Well, you'd better
- 22:02Speaker 2: be prepared for it. And having some gold and silver
- 22:06Speaker 2: is never a bad idea. I guess we kind of
- 22:10Speaker 2: hit our piece here, John.
- 22:13Speaker 3: Well, Kerry, do we have a couple more minutes?
- 22:16Speaker 2: Yeah, sure.
- 22:16Speaker 3: For the gold and silver thing? Okay, because, you know,
- 22:19Speaker 3: we're looking at gold and silver correcting hard today at
- 22:23Speaker 3: the tail end of kind of a long, drawn-out correction.
- 22:27Speaker 3: And that's... you know, that hurts if you've got a
- 22:31Speaker 3: lot of mining stocks or you've got a lot of
- 22:33Speaker 3: precious metals, but it also opens up some opportunities. So
- 22:36Speaker 3: unless you're 100% fully invested in precious metals right now,
- 22:40Speaker 3: this is not a crisis, it's an opportunity. So, you know,
- 22:44Speaker 3: put in some lowball bids on some mining stocks that
- 22:47Speaker 3: maybe you missed on the run up and see if
- 22:50Speaker 3: you get them on the correction that's clearly happening right now. And,
- 22:55Speaker 3: you know, maybe do the same with physical, see what
- 22:58Speaker 3: the premiums are on silver coins out there in this
- 23:01Speaker 3: kind of a market and see if anybody's got some
- 23:04Speaker 3: on sale that you can buy at a price that
- 23:07Speaker 3: you might not see again. I mean, because all the
- 23:09Speaker 3: financial mistakes that gave us $ 5, 000 gold are still happening
- 23:15Speaker 3: and they're accelerating in a lot of cases. So there's
- 23:17Speaker 3: no reason to think that the precious metals bull market
- 23:20Speaker 3: is over. which means that we should treat this correction
- 23:24Speaker 3: as an opportunity. So there, I said my piece.
- 23:26Speaker 2: All right. I agree with you. And there are sources
- 23:31Speaker 2: to get it below melt, especially when the market's weak
- 23:34Speaker 2: like now. Not so much for gold, but silver. A
- 23:37Speaker 2: lot of sources. And for sure, you know, this is
- 23:42Speaker 2: a consolidation similar to what happened back in 2007 and
- 23:45Speaker 2: 2008 and expect it to happen again. And I guess
- 23:52Speaker 2: we'll leave it at that. Make sure you go over
- 23:55Speaker 2: to John's Substack, rubinosubstack.com, and our financialsurvivalnetwork.com. John, we will
- 24:03Speaker 2: catch up with you in a few weeks. Thanks, Gary.
- 24:06Speaker 3: Talk to you soon.
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