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Full Show Podcast: 07 August 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: an early edition with ex pole insulation, keeping Kimi Holmes
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  Speaker 1: warm and try this winter news talks'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to Thursday. Just gone six minutes after five.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up on the program this morning, the road user charges,
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  Speaker 3: how will the truckees fare?
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  Speaker 2: We'll ask them just before six is.
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  Speaker 3: It going to make Yeah, because that's how we get
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  Speaker 3: all our goods to market more expensive or cheaper retailing
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  Speaker 3: Z on the employment numbers, the grocery report out wild
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  Speaker 3: reporting on this report. By the way, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 3: if you had a guess, how do you think we
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  Speaker 3: compare our grocery prices to the average of the OECD.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you the answer to that question, and it
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  Speaker 3: will surprise you. I think India be Trump this morning,
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  Speaker 3: and this American hunter in South Africa who became the hunted.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 3: It is Thursday, the seventh of August. Steve Whitcoff, this
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  Speaker 3: is Trump's guy and Putin. They've had their meeting. Russia
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  Speaker 3: says it was constructive.
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  Speaker 4: The thing that's stuffing the Russians from saying more about
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  Speaker 4: what sort of signals the two men exchange was that
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  Speaker 4: Steve Whitgob has to report back to Donald Trump, but
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  Speaker 4: what he has discussed without then we will know more.
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  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Trump's slapping India with a twenty five percent terror
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  Speaker 3: for buying Russian oil. This is on top of the
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  Speaker 3: twenty five they already had. That takes you to fifty.
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  Speaker 3: That's one of the highest the US is ever imposed.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be very disappointing to the Indian government.
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  Speaker 3: President Modi and Donald Trump have enjoyed a strong, good relationship.
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  Speaker 3: And remember the Mastershift controversy. How could you forget this
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  Speaker 3: is the BBC over in the UK deciding to air
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  Speaker 3: the series that they filmed before the slightly dodgy hosts
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  Speaker 3: were sacked after the conduct report up held complaints against them.
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  Speaker 2: Not everyone's happy or watching it.
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  Speaker 6: It's absolutely not for me, as the Culture Secretary and
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  Speaker 6: a member of the government to tell broadcasters what they
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  Speaker 6: can and can't as.
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  Speaker 7: A viewer, as a viewer and a license fee pay
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  Speaker 7: or do you think you should be shown.
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  Speaker 8: As a viewer?
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  Speaker 9: I won't be watching it like every member of the public.
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  Speaker 10: I'm absolutely a pulled that that was allowed to happen.
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  Speaker 1: The first word on the news of the Day Early
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  Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and expol Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes
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  Speaker 1: warm and dry. This winter news Talk, sa'd be.
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  Speaker 3: You got to be careful who you pick for these
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  Speaker 3: shows because they're really expensive to make, and if you
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  Speaker 3: have to then train and edit people out, well.
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  Speaker 2: It's very difficult to edit people out of a show.
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  Speaker 3: But once you've filmed it, once it's in the can,
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  Speaker 3: it's basically done and dusted, and you've got to air.
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  Speaker 2: It, don't you.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise it's an enormous waste of money. Now, speaking of
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  Speaker 3: enormous waste of money, that's what it feels like we
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  Speaker 3: do when we go to the supermarket and we've got
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  Speaker 3: a grocery report out from the ComCom yesterday. It's their
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  Speaker 3: annual report looking at the state of the grocery sector.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is.
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  Speaker 3: Why we feel poor. The numbers consumers are paying between
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven and thirty six percent more for grocery products
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five compared to twenty sixteen. Even if
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  Speaker 3: you look at t twenty twenty one, we are now
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  Speaker 3: paying twenty one percent to twenty seven percent more for
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  Speaker 3: our groceries than we were just in twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why we feel poor.
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  Speaker 3: Now, all the headlines from this report are very much
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  Speaker 3: we're more expensive than the OECD average. You know, we're
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  Speaker 3: up there. Things are bad, things are terrible, nothing's improving.
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  Speaker 3: But actually, if you look at the numbers in the report,
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  Speaker 3: we're now three percent above the OECD average the price
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  Speaker 3: of food and non alcoholic beverages in New Zealand compared
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  Speaker 3: to the OECD OECD average plus three percent. Now, that
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  Speaker 3: was as high in twenty twenty one, as high as
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  Speaker 3: fourteen percent twenty twenty two, nine percent, twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: Three percent. Now, I don't know about you, but that
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  Speaker 3: feels like two fits of bugger all to me. And
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't take into account the fact that we have GST.
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  Speaker 3: We have GST at fifteen percent on everything. The Aussies,
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  Speaker 3: for example, have GST, but they exempt basic products, so
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  Speaker 3: that makes their products cheaper there.
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  Speaker 2: So are we going to pull apart.
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  Speaker 3: Businesses in New Zealand for a three percent on average
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  Speaker 3: above the average?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously?
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  Speaker 3: Are we going to do that? Does that sound like
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  Speaker 3: a reasonable response to you? Nine two nine two. It's
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  Speaker 3: just gone ten minutes after five here on news talks HEVB.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the employment.
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  Speaker 3: We had the number yesterday slightly better than what we
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  Speaker 3: had expected. I think Nikola Willis has been given a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a hard time on the press conference she
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  Speaker 3: did yesterday. I'll tell you about that next plus we'll.
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  Speaker 2: Talk two retail en z here on News Talks, HEB on.
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  Speaker 1: Your radio and online on iheard Radio early edition with
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  Speaker 3: It is thirteen minutes after five Fort Stewart and Army
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  Speaker 3: base over in the United States being in an attacked.
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  Speaker 3: There's been someone go in and shoot at least five soldiers.
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  Speaker 3: The Trump White House has been briefed on it at
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  Speaker 3: the moment. Katie Fishers are US correspondent. She'll be with
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  Speaker 3: us after five point thirty this morning, just gone thirteen
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  Speaker 3: after Bryan Bread unemployments at its highest level since twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 3: now sitting at five point two percent. That's sixteen thousand
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  Speaker 3: jobs gone in the last year. Retail's been hit hard,
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  Speaker 3: with full time jobs down two percent last quarter. Carolyn
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  Speaker 3: Young is Retailings ed CEO with me this morning. Karen,
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  Speaker 3: good morning, whatever how are you guys feeling about looking ahead?
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  Speaker 3: Is this the worst it'll get? Do you think for
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  Speaker 3: retail or more shedding to come?
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  Speaker 11: Look, it's really hard to tell. We have an advice
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  Speaker 11: service for our members and we're still every week the
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  Speaker 11: top issues that are being discussed with through our advice
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  Speaker 11: service restructures, enclosures. So you know, the pain is still
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  Speaker 11: being felt and so could be more more to come.
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  Speaker 11: I would think at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to keep morale up at the moment, it is tough.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think you know, retailers are trying to
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  Speaker 11: really focus on some of the good work that's being
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  Speaker 11: done to keep morale up. But business owners and certainly
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  Speaker 11: in those means, are really struggling around, you know, how
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  Speaker 11: how to make sure that they survive through this downturn
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  Speaker 11: to come out the other side.
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  Speaker 3: What I mean, everyone's waiting on the Reserve Bank to
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  Speaker 3: just pull trigger and keep cutting, cut and cutting. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we'd like it, we'd like them to prune like it's
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  Speaker 3: coming into summer.
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  Speaker 2: But but what what do you is there?
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  Speaker 3: You know, are people realistic, business owners realistic about how
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  Speaker 3: much the government can actually do in a situation.
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  Speaker 11: Like this, Well, we really need greater consumer confidence. That's
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  Speaker 11: the key driver for the most discernible retail because if
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  Speaker 11: you take out core essential services where you know people
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  Speaker 11: are going to have to go to the supermarket, they
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  Speaker 11: need electricity, detail in taile, communications and fuel. If they don't,
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  Speaker 11: if consumers don't have anything left in their pot, then
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  Speaker 11: they're not going to be out buying anything else. If
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  Speaker 11: they're not confident in their job security, they're not going
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  Speaker 11: to be thinking about buying other things. We really have
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  Speaker 11: to make sure that you know, people are feeling secure
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  Speaker 11: in those spaces to their confidence arise for them to
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  Speaker 11: be able to spend more money in the wider sector,
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  Speaker 11: and part of that will be around you know, interest
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  Speaker 11: rates and mortgage affordability and rent affordability and those everyday expenses.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate that, Karen, Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Carolyn Young, who's with Retailing Z the chief executive, just
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  Speaker 3: gone call to past five Gee. I think Nichola would
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  Speaker 3: has got a bit of a hard time yesterday just
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  Speaker 3: in terms of the portrayal of her press conference.
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  Speaker 2: In the press.
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  Speaker 3: She and I watched the press conference yesterday. She made
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  Speaker 3: one comment about some economists being a bit glass half full,
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  Speaker 3: and that has been the comment that's gone to all
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  Speaker 3: the sites, particularly via r n Z, which gets syndicated everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: She actually said that this number, this employment was bad,
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  Speaker 3: better than market predictions, which is true, but still tough.
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  Speaker 3: It's at this point you ask yourself, what exactly do
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  Speaker 3: we want the government to do? You know, That's why
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  Speaker 3: I asked Carolyn about it.
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  Speaker 2: What do you actually want them to do?
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  Speaker 3: Do you want them to go out and borrow more
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  Speaker 3: money and pump up and fund a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 3: jobs that shouldn't be there, shouldn't exist but exists purely
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  Speaker 3: to fill and make the employment numbers look better?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Do you want national to spend more? They're still technically
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  Speaker 3: spending like a drunken sailor at Grant Robertson levels. You know,
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  Speaker 3: the bureaucrat beureacrat head count actually has barely moved. I
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  Speaker 3: think it's down about four percent or something. What do
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  Speaker 3: we actually want them to do? Differently, you can't blame
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  Speaker 3: the slot for the recession that they inherited, and you
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  Speaker 3: can mostly blame Trump for it dragging out longer than necessary.
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  Speaker 2: But what actually what specific.
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  Speaker 3: Actions other than taking on more debt do we want
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  Speaker 3: Nikola Wallace to do seventeen minutes after five, Grocery prices,
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  Speaker 3: next views.
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  Speaker 1: And view as you trust to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge at x full Insulation,
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  Speaker 1: keeping Kiwi homes warm, and Drey this winter news talks
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  Speaker 1: that'd be five nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people agreeing with the road user changes,
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  Speaker 3: road user charges changes. I should say, we'll talk about
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  Speaker 3: that just before six this morning, specifically how it will
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  Speaker 3: affect the truckies and there for the goods that we
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  Speaker 3: get to and from market which we pay for. Nineteen
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  Speaker 3: minutes after five. Now the Commerce Commission's latest grocery reports out,
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  Speaker 3: and not much has changed. Big two supermarket chains dominating
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  Speaker 3: still eighty two percent market share. We're paying the fifth
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  Speaker 3: highest price in the developed world, apparently, while food stuffs
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  Speaker 3: is in profit more than international supermarkets like wal martin Tesco.
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  Speaker 3: Ernie Newman is a grocery policy expert on the program
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  Speaker 3: this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Ernie, good to have you on the show. Now.
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  Speaker 3: Is this The number that struck me was three percent.
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  Speaker 3: So we're paying, on average three percent more than the
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  Speaker 3: OECD average for our food?
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  Speaker 2: Is that bad? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: It is for a country like this, which is an
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  Speaker 5: extremely efficient food producer.
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  Speaker 12: We should be.
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  Speaker 5: Paying way way below the OECD average, and you know
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  Speaker 5: years ago we did. The problem is that part too much.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is we we're an export nation, right we
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  Speaker 3: export most of what we produce, which is subject to
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  Speaker 3: an international price.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say most. Well, yeah, in certain markets we do, yes,
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  Speaker 5: and the dairy and horticulture industries, that's true, but there's
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  Speaker 5: a huge amount of local produce where the problem here
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  Speaker 5: is excessive markups, so that there are problems with the
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  Speaker 5: excessive profitability of the retail sector. And I guess there
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  Speaker 5: are also problems with distribution because you know, well, we
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  Speaker 5: all feel good when volunteer is doing well, but that's
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  Speaker 5: not being passed through the community. That's all going to
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  Speaker 5: the farmers and not being passed through to consumers. And
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  Speaker 5: that's why it's creating a increasing and a huge imbalance
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  Speaker 5: between the rich and poor.
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  Speaker 3: But the farmers have invested their time, energy and money
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  Speaker 3: into a business and this is their reward. And they're
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  Speaker 3: not always making money, are they. I mean, sure times
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  Speaker 3: are good now, but they're not always that way.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's true, and I mean you can get into
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  Speaker 5: the whole argument about the Fonterira thing. You know, when
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  Speaker 5: there's bad weather and drought conditions and buyers security issues
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  Speaker 5: and whatever, we all dip into our pockets and we
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  Speaker 5: all pay to help the farmers out on that. And
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  Speaker 5: maybe it's a bit of a time for a quid
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  Speaker 5: pro pong where New Zealanders could pay but less for
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  Speaker 5: our butter and cheese to make up for that large years.
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  Speaker 3: You're talking about a corporate basically sponsoring the New Zealand public.
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  Speaker 5: I know I'm talking. I'm talking about a government here, because.
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  Speaker 3: Government subsidizing products.
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  Speaker 5: Well, no, not subsidizing, not subsidizing at all. But there
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  Speaker 5: needs to be a payback to the whole community when
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  Speaker 5: the farmers are doing well, just as there is I
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  Speaker 5: guess a degree of corporate largest from the community to
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  Speaker 5: the farmers.
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  Speaker 2: There is journey.
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  Speaker 3: There is when the farmers do well, they pay more tax.
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  Speaker 3: When they pay more tax, we have better hospitals.
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  Speaker 5: Seeing that at the moment, you're seeing that at the
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  Speaker 5: moment earning.
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  Speaker 3: My problem is that if we are only three percent
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  Speaker 3: more expensive than the OECD average, and we haven't taken
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  Speaker 3: into account the fact that we've got GST at fifteen
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  Speaker 3: percent on everything, are we are things really that bad here?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think they are, and with respect, I think
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  Speaker 5: you've been listening to too many supermarket lobbyists of us.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the fact is we are of food producing country.
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  Speaker 5: We should be one of the most economic places in
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  Speaker 5: which to buy food in the world, and we used
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  Speaker 5: to be. And if you look at the Communist Commission figures,
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  Speaker 5: the increase in our food prices over the last five
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  Speaker 5: or ten years has been way way, way ahead of
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  Speaker 5: general inflation. Now there's something role when we're paying the
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  Speaker 5: kind of prices that we are for basic food stuff,
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  Speaker 5: for fruit and vegetables, for milk and cheese and so on.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we are we should be the best place
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  Speaker 5: of the world which to live for products of that kind.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we also import a bunch of stuff that we
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  Speaker 3: buy at the supermarket, right, and the chipping costs have
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  Speaker 3: gone up. There's a whole bunch of reasons why things
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  Speaker 3: have gone up in price, especially for a country like
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand at the bottom end of the world.
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  Speaker 5: No, the bottom end of the world argument doesn't really
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  Speaker 5: stack up this. There are certain products that are important,
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  Speaker 5: but when you when you look along with supermarket shelves,
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  Speaker 5: the things that we're buying every day. You know our bread,
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  Speaker 5: our dairy products, our produce, our vegetables, you know a
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  Speaker 5: lot of dry grocery lines, ice cream. All of those
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  Speaker 5: things generally are made made locally or in Australia where
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  Speaker 5: the shipping costs are not necessarily that great. So are
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  Speaker 5: those arguments don't stack up the issue. The issue here
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  Speaker 5: is the inflation over the last few years.
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  Speaker 3: It's been bloody, terrible hurts day, Ernie, appreciate you coming
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  Speaker 3: on the show this morning. Ernie Newman, who's a grocery
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  Speaker 3: policy expert, on the latest grocery report just gone. Twenty
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  Speaker 3: four minutes after five, News Talks, he be, We'll go
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  Speaker 3: to the moon next the.
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  Speaker 2: Talks he be, Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty six minutes after five, there's a new space race
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  Speaker 3: kicking off and I am absolutely here for it. Is
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  Speaker 3: there anything more thrilling than watching two countries battle at
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  Speaker 3: hammer and tong to achieve something that we all dreamed
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  Speaker 3: and thought impossible until it happens, like going to the moon,
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  Speaker 3: provided of course you think we actually went there. It's
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  Speaker 3: like the Science Olympics crossed with the geopolitical Hunger Games.
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  Speaker 3: This is what makes it so fascinating. This time, it's
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  Speaker 3: a bit like last time, but with the US on
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  Speaker 3: one team, China Rusher working together on the other, and
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  Speaker 3: they want to install these nuclear reactors on the surface
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  Speaker 3: of the Moon, some four hundred thousand kilometers away. The
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  Speaker 3: US wants it done by two twenty thirty. China, Russia
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  Speaker 3: they are aiming for your early twenty thirties, so it's
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  Speaker 3: a real race. The scientists are hoping everybody will come
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  Speaker 3: together and combine and cooperate like they do with the
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  Speaker 3: International Space Station once.
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  Speaker 2: They're up there.
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  Speaker 3: But of course the politicians have other plans, don't they.
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  Speaker 3: This is about nationalism, it's about defense and territory. Everyone
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  Speaker 3: wants to be the first because there are actually currently
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  Speaker 3: no laws or treaties for colonizing the Moon. It's basically
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  Speaker 3: first come, first served, and they reckon. Whoever builds the
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  Speaker 3: first reactor for electricity can basically bags that area and
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  Speaker 3: build their base close by. He who gets their first winds. Basically,
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  Speaker 3: the Moon, as you know, quite important.
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  Speaker 2: To us here on Earth, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: The seasons, the crops, the oceans, our entire lives are
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  Speaker 3: tied to this thing that hangs in the sky. But
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  Speaker 3: if you look at it closely, it's actually already covered
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  Speaker 3: in giant craters so big you can see them from Earth.
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  Speaker 3: So even if these guys do blow something up, what's.
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  Speaker 2: One more crater?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 3: I'm basically frothing at the chomping at the bit here
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  Speaker 3: to see the New Age space race get underwagh. The
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  Speaker 3: most interesting question, I think is what happens if it's
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  Speaker 3: not a country that gets there first but one of
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  Speaker 3: those weird oh billionaires and they're space toys Bridge. Do
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  Speaker 3: they own space? Can they have a camp on space?
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  Speaker 3: A camp on the moon.
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  Speaker 2: It's that I want to know.
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  Speaker 3: Is the number to text loads of texts on groceries? Ryan,
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  Speaker 3: I don't earn a huge amount, says Taylor. I don't
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  Speaker 3: own a huge amount. But the price at the supermarket
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  Speaker 3: is just daylight robbery. Nothing's been done about it to
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  Speaker 3: help pass. I spend one hundred and twenty bucks the
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  Speaker 3: other day for twelve essential items that used to be seventy,
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  Speaker 3: I said, dear God, yeah, Taylor, I hear you. Question
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  Speaker 3: is whether we think smashing supermarkets is going to change
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  Speaker 3: that I'm not entirely convinced it will.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan.
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  Speaker 3: The problem we have is a small population spread over
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  Speaker 3: large area, products freighted from Auckland to everywhere up and
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  Speaker 3: down our skinny narrow country.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Text twenty nine minutes after five.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Now we're going to get to the road user charges
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: before six o'clock and why cyclists are exempt. You'll be
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: probably not surprised to hear. I imagine that would be a
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: difficult job to do. We'll get to our reporters around
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the country and to the States with Katie Fisher here
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: on News Talks.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: AB tar flaeres tar flowers and only twice.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on early edition with ex bowl insulation, keeping
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: chilly owns warm and try this winter news Talks.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: AB keep putting it as twenty four minutes away from
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: six News Talks. They've been there's been a shooting at
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: one of America's largest military bases in Georgia. We'll have
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: our corresponding across that for you shortly before six. The
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: road user charges debate kicking off and heading up. Why
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: aren't cyclists included? We'll talk truckies as well. This is
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: a text from Judy. We had loads of texts in
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: regards to the supermarket prices we were talking about earlier. Ryan,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: As a farmer, it's pretty frustrating when I hear people
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: like Ernie, that was our guest. I wonder what Ernie
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: thinks farmers do with the profits that they make. Ernie,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: they pay down debt or invest in their farms, which
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: puts money into our economy. Fonterra and farmers pay tax.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: We paid gest for contexts, farmers were making more profit
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: over and above our cost to produce it in two
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: thousand and eight. Our income has not increased at the
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: same rate as farm working expenses. Ernie might like to
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: explore that more before he comments, says Judy, Judy, nice
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: to have you on the program and nice to have
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: your text into the show. I agree in this idea
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: that we would somehow subsidize domestic consumers for things like butter.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: This argument that we produce food so it should be
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: cheap here and the land of milk and honey, Well,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: what do you want to do? Nationalize Fonterra, take over,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you know, and then give a discount on butter to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: taxpayers like the Saudis do with oil. What exactly do
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: we want here?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Twenty three. And then who's to decide. Well, well, what if.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: You're you know, you work at a GP clinic for example,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Well that's sort of an essential service. Can we start
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: nationalizing all of the private practices to I mean, where
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: does it end? Twenty two minutes away from six. Let's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: go to our reporters around the country now, Rosi Leishman
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: and Duneda and Rosie good morning, Good morning.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: What is up with these leg traps in Southland?
• 19:52
  Speaker 12: Yes?
• 19:52
  Speaker 13: So, the SBA is concerned after more than a hundred
• 19:56
  Speaker 13: leg traps were found in a Southland domain and kago
• 20:00
  Speaker 13: A City Council has removed traps from the Sandy Point area,
• 20:03
  Speaker 13: warning that there could be more out there. The smooth
• 20:06
  Speaker 13: jawed spring operated traps are designed to capture an animal
• 20:09
  Speaker 13: by the foot or leg. The council says it's extremely
• 20:13
  Speaker 13: disappointing as there are danger to visitors, including young children
• 20:16
  Speaker 13: and dogs. ESBA says pet owners should take extra precautions
• 20:21
  Speaker 13: until more is known about the extent and location of
• 20:24
  Speaker 13: these traps because trapping is not illegal, but it's not
• 20:27
  Speaker 13: permitted in any area where there's a risk of actually
• 20:30
  Speaker 13: catching a pet animal.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, how's your weather? Rosie.
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: It's partly cloudy today with some northeasterlies and the odd
• 20:37
  Speaker 13: bit of rain developing towards this evening in a high
• 20:39
  Speaker 13: of fifteen degrees.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you Cliars in Christay clear, good morning.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Now you're worried about.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: The students in the city and police offices.
• 20:49
  Speaker 14: Yeah, this was the tip off into the newsroom yesterday
• 20:52
  Speaker 14: Ryan about this rural police review that's happening here in
• 20:55
  Speaker 14: Canterbury at the moment. We now are hearing that school
• 20:58
  Speaker 14: police liaison off could be reduced. As part of this
• 21:02
  Speaker 14: proposed restructure. Canterbury Metro area would drop from having seven
• 21:06
  Speaker 14: of these school liaison offices down to three. Mid, South
• 21:10
  Speaker 14: and North Canterbury would all be halved from two down
• 21:13
  Speaker 14: to one now. Canterbury West Coast Secondary Principals Association President
• 21:17
  Speaker 14: at Rachel Skelton says young people respond really well when
• 21:20
  Speaker 14: they have people they have relationships with to help them
• 21:23
  Speaker 14: through their issues. She says the school community and education
• 21:27
  Speaker 14: offices provide a really vital role in supporting early intervention
• 21:30
  Speaker 14: as well as de escalation and safety programs. Again, the
• 21:34
  Speaker 14: key issue here is this lack of consultation. Burnside High
• 21:37
  Speaker 14: School Principal Scott Haines, for example, says schools should be
• 21:41
  Speaker 14: a natural point of consultation for this kind of decision.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: How's your weather, Claire, fine, A bit of.
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: High cloud, a little bit of frost about this morning too.
• 21:51
  Speaker 14: Otherwise northeasterly is fresh and high of seventeen.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You have a great day.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I've been absolutely frothing to get to Max Max. Good morning,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Good morning, big first mayoral debate in Wellington, popcorn out,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: We're really what happened?
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, we did say it could kick off and it
• 22:08
  Speaker 12: did a little symptomatic of the city right now, perhaps
• 22:11
  Speaker 12: a shamozzle for a time. At this debate last night,
• 22:14
  Speaker 12: the first mayoral debate of the election campaign. It was
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: a panel of five. There are more mayoral candidates, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 12: some could make it, some weren't invited. Counselor Diane Calvert,
• 22:24
  Speaker 12: for instance, was sick, but you still had Andrew Little there,
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: Ray Chung and a few others talking rates, councils, spending,
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: the Golden Mile, etc. But that disruption came in the
• 22:33
  Speaker 12: form of former councilor Rob Golden, who is also running
• 22:37
  Speaker 12: for mayor, trying to barge in to the venue because
• 22:40
  Speaker 12: he wasn't included arguing with organizers berating stuff at Victoria
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: University's law school, eventually getting himself barred while complaining about
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: the collapse of democracy or something. Perhaps a bit of
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: a stunt, perhaps fair that not every mayoral candidate was invited,
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: but ultimately yes, descending into chaos at vic Toria University
• 23:00
  Speaker 12: last night. Also announced last night Worth pointing out a
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: Wellington assigned a friendly city agreement with the Palestinian city
• 23:07
  Speaker 12: of Ramala, obviously Palestine experiencing severe hardship at the moment.
• 23:12
  Speaker 12: Mayor Tory Finos says this is a powerful symbol of solidarity, goodness.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: May all right, we'll look forward to the next debate.
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: How's the weather, Yes, perhaps more people invited, perhaps not cloudy?
• 23:22
  Speaker 12: Period's north least fourteen the high central.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and nevas that are here in
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Auckland with me, Hey Neva, good morning. A flyover for
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Auckland's Eastern busway opening October.
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: Now this could be breaking news five months ahead of schedule.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: When does that happened in Auckland?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Never exactly so.
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: This will create a direct connection between Puckadunga Road, Puckadhunga Highway,
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: now the flyovers expected. This obviously will reduce congestion around
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: the town center, which contains one of New Zealand's busiest intersections.
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: So Auckland transporters warning look there will be lane reductions
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: in the area between September twenty October twenty four. The
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: busway is expected to be for by twenty twenty seven,
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: so this is just a flyover that's going to be
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: open in October.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Also, very good, great news and weather today cloudy.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: We've got a few shells as well, a little bit
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: warmer today. Sixteen is high here in Auckland.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Beautiful.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Have a good one, nev It is just gone eighteen
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: minutes away from six here. On news talks, thereb lots
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: to get to Katie Fisher out of America for US.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Next whit COF's over in Moscow. This is Trump's guy.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And there's been a shooting on an army base. One
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: of America's biggest army base is actually in Georgia. Reportedly
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: five soldiers have been shot. At this point, we'll get
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: an update on them next.
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  Speaker 3: Finished shooting on an army based in Georgia and the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: United States.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Katie Fishes are correspondent. Katie. What's the lightest with this?
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we've been told that the lockdown has now
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: been partially lifted at the Fort Stuart Hunter Army Airfield
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: in Georgia, just south of Savannah. We understand that a
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: gunman was apprehended about forty minutes after authorities were initially
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: alerted to this, and that five soldiers have been shot.
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: They were treated at the scene and they've now been
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: taken to an army hospital, although the base hasn't said
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: what the nature of their injuries is, but there have
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: been at this stage no fatalities. They also didn't provide
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: any information about the suspect who is now in custody,
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: but they did say there's no active threat to the community.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: And as I say, that lockdown has been partially lifted
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: except for the area where the shooting specifically took place,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: which is now being an active crime scene. So clearly
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: very worrying for all those involved. The discussions now about
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: whether this was somebody who came from outside the base
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: to commit this shooting, or whether it was an insider
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: someone who already was based on this base. Eight eight
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: hundred people live and work there, so there are a
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: lot of people.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Mass of one of the biggest ones apparently now Wick,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Coffs and Moscow obviously. And now Trump's going after India
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: with an additional twenty five percent tariff for buying Russian oil.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. He announced today that he's now going
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: to double tariffs on India. The initial twenty five percent
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: tariff that was already on the country will go in
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: to will t take effect from tomorrow, which was when
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: those his last postponement comes back. They all go in tomorrow.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: Then in three weeks time, he's saying there will be
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: another twenty five percent tariff because he said that they
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: are trading they're buying cheap oil from Russia, which is
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: propping up Russia's war efforts in Ukraine, and then they're
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: also using some of this oil to make products that
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: are then selling out to the rest of the world.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: He says that it's unfair and he wants to punish
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: them for doing that, and this does kind of tie
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: in to Steve Witcoff's visit to Moscow today, that is
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Trump's special envoy in Moscow meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: to talk about an end to this war. Donald Trump
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: has put a deadline of Friday to say that Russia
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: must stop its war in Ukraine all face further sanctions,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: and these sanctions could include what he's calling secondary sanctions,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: which is sanctioning countries who buy cheap Russian oil. Already,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: he's decided that India is going to be punished for this,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: but there are other countries like China and Turkey who
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: also buy this oil, and his hope is that by
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: punishing them and stopping them from perhaps buying it, it
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: will damage Russia's economy even more. But you know, this
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: is Donald Trump done. It's not Friday yet, so we
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: don't actually know what's happened coming out of the meeting.
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: It was just kind of that the lines were very
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: useful and constructive, but certainly no definite yes, you know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: a definite end to the war or definite sanctions.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: And he hasn't actually put the tariffs on yet. That's
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: still to come to Katie Fisher, our US correspondent. Thanks
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: so much for your time. Just gone ten away from
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: six Bryan Bridge. TiAl texts are out. Road user charges
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: are in for everyone. The government scrapping the two tier
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: system where petrol drivers paid at the pump, diesel and
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: EV's paid per kilometer though not their fair share, and
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: the new system will be electronic and reflect our changing
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: vehicle fleet according to the government. Justin ti Umbers is
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: the National Road Carrier Association CEO. Justin good morning, good morning, right,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: what are truckies? And I know people don't like that
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: term anymore, but what do they think of it?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: What does it mean for them?
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, look, I think what it means ultimately for yeh truckees,
• 29:54
  Speaker 10: road transport operators is going to be that we'll get
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: our roads paid for in a better way than what
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: we are at the mind. So there's a big leak
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: in the bucket, Ryan, and that's you know, we're just
• 30:04
  Speaker 10: not bringing in enough from the current system, from the
• 30:07
  Speaker 10: fuel tax at the pump. The numbers billions actually in
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: terms of what we're behind for what we need to
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: maintain our current network and hopefully build some better roads.
• 30:18
  Speaker 10: So no road freight industry will be pleased with us.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Change does it make it cheaper for road freight.
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: Look, we want to see the network paid for in
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: a fair share. And what happens when you move to
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: ruckers the road user charges. You start paying by weight
• 30:36
  Speaker 10: and distance traveled, which is actually fairer than paying for
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: what you pay for it the pump, because that just
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: depends on how efficient your petrol engine is. So road
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: freight will continue to want to pay for their fair share.
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: But absolutely plugging this gap, we've got cars that aren't
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: paying for the fair usage that will certainly make it better.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: None of this is coming until twenty twenty seven the earliest.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Should the government be making it more of a priority.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Should it be happening sooner than that?
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you could argue that the challenges I guess is
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: that the government of the Crown is having to put
• 31:12
  Speaker 10: in grants, taxpayer money is having to go in to
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: prop up maintaining the road network. So certainly we need
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: to get on with it. That said, it's a once
• 31:23
  Speaker 10: and fifty year change. Every country around the world's actually
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: facing this problem where you've got evs and far more
• 31:30
  Speaker 10: efficient petrol engines just reducing how roading's paid for. New
• 31:35
  Speaker 10: Zealand's actually and We're in quite a good position because
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: we're world pioneers in road user charges. We were the
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: first to bring it out in the late seventies. We're
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: still a world leader on it with electronic ruck for
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: how trucks pay for it, so we're actually in quite
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: a strong position compared to other countries.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Justin great to have you on the show as always,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Justin timba's National Road Carry Association CEO. Here on News
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Talk CB, I've got a story about one hundred out
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  Speaker 3: of South Africa.
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  Speaker 2: Well it's a shocker actually.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: And also the cyclists are not paying anything for road
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: user charges, and I just wonder whether you think they
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: should be and in fund their own cycle ways.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be lovely?
• 32:14
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  Speaker 3: Talks, he'd be five to six on news Talks, he'd
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  Speaker 3: be So there's the hunter from America. I was mentioning
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: earlier about hunting for buffalo in South Africa over the weekend,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: stalking a cape buffalo, apparently one point three ton cape buffalo,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: tracking it through the wilderness and thing turns around and
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: kills him. The hunter becomes the hunted. No species on
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: the planet apparently has a more fearsome reputation than a
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: cape buffalo. It will happen in a couple of minutes.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Families devastated. This guy, by the way, normally because it's
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: all over social media now, but normally he is out
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: hunting mountain lions and deer and decided to go for
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: a buffalo.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Didn't work out well. Five to six. Mic is in
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: the studio now, Mike, good morning.
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: Greeting's Ryan.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Do you think the cyclists because this road user charge's
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: announcement is exempt of any cyclist having to pay a
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: road user charge, and we've got so many cycle ways
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: up and down the country, as you well know, and
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: they're not contributing anything.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: How would you make them contribute.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Well, you'd have to put a little bell on them,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: a little sticker on the.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Bike, bell on them. Well, now I've got a bell,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: a little sticker.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: On the bike, and every time they go past, there's
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: a zapping point.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You've got to electronically do it. You probably should.
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: It's not a bad argument because the whole argument is
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: based on the idea of wear and tear, and so
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: anyone who wears in tears, which is a bike, a
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: bike and motorcycles of course at which they do do Yeah, yeah, No,
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: I've tended to agree it's been an age older issue.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Because you have all of this infrastructure and they're not
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: paying for it, correct and some of it's really crap.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: So maybe you'd get better infrastructure if they chipped in.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: Do you know who's going to really suffer BEV owners
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: because on weight, which is what they're going to do
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: it all Bev's weigh a ton.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: In fact, they're wait two and a half times, so.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: You're going to wake up a better yet that's not anyway.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: That and the Finance Minister and Kayi Belta song in
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: a checks.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: That have a great day of run for tomorrow.
• 34:22
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