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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Smitha.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I'm welcome to Steffan Never told you prodectuly of iHeartRadio.
- 0:18Speaker 2: And we are currently in October.
- 0:23Speaker 1: We are in the height of.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Spooky seasons, people are calling it, and that means that
- 0:31Speaker 2: I've got a lot. I've been watching a lot of
- 0:33Speaker 2: horror movies. I've been reading a lot of horror things.
- 0:36Speaker 2: And also I was thinking about this because recently on
- 0:40Speaker 2: my other podcast, Saver, which is all about food, we
- 0:43Speaker 2: did an episode on Twizzlers and if you'll remember, the
- 0:48Speaker 2: first episode of Sminty Fiction we did was about Twizzlers.
- 0:55Speaker 3: One that only acting gig.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Yes, you were in it. You did a whole thing.
- 0:59Speaker 1: You were in that.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I love that story. It was such it was so
- 1:05Speaker 2: fun to do with you. It was fun with Christina
- 1:09Speaker 2: to hear the final products. But in there I was
- 1:12Speaker 2: making a joke about I used to love these candies
- 1:15Speaker 2: called Twist and Pills, which were discontinued, and in doing
- 1:20Speaker 2: this research for Saver, they've really tried to obliterate any
- 1:24Speaker 2: information about them. I even found a whole reddit about like,
- 1:27Speaker 2: does anyone remember twist and Pills?
- 1:30Speaker 1: Wow?
- 1:30Speaker 2: So it is a conspiracy. Either there was something very
- 1:33Speaker 2: terrible in them that we shouldn't have been eating, and
- 1:36Speaker 2: or they were very hard to make, because it turns
- 1:38Speaker 2: out making a twistler is not easy.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Requires a lot of like AI AI.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Yeah, they use AI to get the correct amount of
- 1:49Speaker 2: twist in it.
- 1:50Speaker 3: They do make good weapons, Yeah, they do.
- 1:53Speaker 2: They make good weapons. They're very divisive. I also learned.
- 1:57Speaker 4: Yes, the Twizzler and Vine debate.
- 2:00Speaker 1: Yes, vine is disgusting. How dare you? Oh so you're
- 2:04Speaker 1: twizzling all day?
- 2:05Speaker 3: That was the whole Parks and rec episode.
- 2:07Speaker 4: I felt so seen too, really disappointed by Leslie.
- 2:12Speaker 3: She's a vines person.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Oh jeez, Mine's is liquorish. That's true.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Even though twizzlers are like categorized as licorice candy, they're
- 2:22Speaker 2: not licorice.
- 2:22Speaker 1: They don't you. I love this. I'm glad to bun
- 2:27Speaker 1: it up.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Well.
- 2:29Speaker 2: If you want more information about them, you can go
- 2:31Speaker 2: hear the Savor episode. In the meantime, please enjoy. It's
- 2:35Speaker 2: really fun in my opinion. Sminty fiction classic. Hey, this
- 2:45Speaker 2: is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stuff I've Never
- 2:47Speaker 2: told you production of iHeart Radio. Samantha, do you have
- 2:58Speaker 2: a favorite can I do actually, I have a couple
- 3:02Speaker 2: of favorite candies.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Let's hear them.
- 3:05Speaker 4: One is wor there's chewy Caramels. I've talked about those
- 3:09Speaker 4: on a different podcast, and I know it's old people candy,
- 3:12Speaker 4: but I love them. Look, I love them and usually
- 3:15Speaker 4: will have them on hand. I also like Twizzlers, but
- 3:19Speaker 4: I like the Twizzlers. My favorite type of Twizzlers is
- 3:22Speaker 4: actually the Halloween version of the Twizzlers. So they're individual
- 3:27Speaker 4: packaged and they're the chewy ones, but they're smaller and
- 3:30Speaker 4: because I don't know if it's because they're smaller or what,
- 3:33Speaker 4: and the way they are made is a lot more
- 3:36Speaker 4: I don't know if it's.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Pliable, Whereas like the regular Twizzlers.
- 3:39Speaker 4: You could actually hurt somebody with right, you know, if
- 3:42Speaker 4: you smack them with it, but this one you can't.
- 3:45Speaker 4: And it's so it's chewier and a little bit lighter.
- 3:48Speaker 4: So those are my favorite versions of Twizzlers. But those
- 3:51Speaker 4: two are probably my favorite. Yeah, okay, what about you?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have five different candies. I'm actually not
- 3:58Speaker 2: a big candy person, and I know I have to
- 4:00Speaker 2: the story before, when I was a kid, I would
- 4:01Speaker 2: just get all the candy for Halloween and then sell
- 4:04Speaker 2: it nice.
- 4:06Speaker 1: But because of that, it is a.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Very like strong message you get that you should want
- 4:12Speaker 2: candy as a child. And so now I have a
- 4:15Speaker 2: tradition around Halloween. I try to find, not buy a Reese's,
- 4:21Speaker 2: a kit kat, a butterfinger, an almond joy and what's
- 4:28Speaker 2: the other one? I don't know something in that way.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Why are you trying to em and peanuts?
- 4:36Speaker 1: So those are my favorites. That's my Halloween tradition.
- 4:39Speaker 3: But you said you try to find them but not
- 4:41Speaker 3: buy them. What's the point of just finding them?
- 4:44Speaker 1: It's the Halloween spirit.
- 4:46Speaker 2: I don't go trig or treating, but I used to
- 4:48Speaker 2: be able back when we went to the office. Our
- 4:50Speaker 2: office does have a rather large candy bowl, and that
- 4:54Speaker 2: was my Usually I would find success.
- 4:59Speaker 4: Enough actually would dig out the twizzlers, and yes.
- 5:04Speaker 2: I love I love how people have these, like little
- 5:06Speaker 2: like Samantha must have been here.
- 5:07Speaker 1: All the twizzlers are gone.
- 5:09Speaker 3: They're just so good m and I will actually eat them.
- 5:14Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a great segue into what we're doing today.
- 5:18Speaker 1: And I do want to revisit.
- 5:19Speaker 2: It in a second, because as we're recording this and
- 5:22Speaker 2: as it comes out Halloween is upon us, so we
- 5:25Speaker 2: thought we would try something new.
- 5:27Speaker 1: And read some fiction. Finally, yes, yes, yes, finally.
- 5:33Speaker 2: So we are planning on having some recurring fiction readings,
- 5:37Speaker 2: maybe like once a month or so. But don't worry,
- 5:40Speaker 2: nothing much is changing. We'll still have the same contents,
- 5:43Speaker 2: just some fiction every now and then. Because we thought
- 5:45Speaker 2: it could be fun. It was fun for us to do,
- 5:47Speaker 2: and we both like fiction and doing some real greade
- 5:51Speaker 2: a acting no, of course, oh so good.
- 5:55Speaker 1: I'm so great at it.
- 5:56Speaker 2: It's like if podcast have an Oscar category.
- 6:01Speaker 1: This is we should have wandered.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Absolutely, oh absolutely, So some disclaimers before we get into this.
- 6:09Speaker 2: This is something that I wrote with the idea was
- 6:14Speaker 2: in part inspired by a friend, and I'll get into
- 6:16Speaker 2: that after the fiction because.
- 6:18Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it too much. It's short
- 6:22Speaker 1: to short form. It's not really scary. It's very very silly,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and yeah, I didn't really if at the.
- 6:29Speaker 2: End of this, and I can hear Eves's voice in
- 6:32Speaker 2: my head saying like, stop, you're disclaiming it too much.
- 6:35Speaker 2: If at the end of this, you're like, this doesn't
- 6:36Speaker 2: really make that much sense. I condensed a lot into
- 6:42Speaker 2: one thing. And then I didn't want to spend too
- 6:45Speaker 2: much time on that part of it.
- 6:51Speaker 1: We will get into that after it'll it will make
- 6:53Speaker 1: sense once you hear it, I think.
- 6:56Speaker 2: But all right, without further ado, we're going to get
- 7:00Speaker 2: into this story called Twisted. Do you like candy? No,
- 7:21Speaker 2: me either, too sweet for me. Can't stop myself from
- 7:25Speaker 2: accepting it, though old habits and all, they really teach
- 7:28Speaker 2: you to covet that stuff.
- 7:29Speaker 1: As a kid.
- 7:30Speaker 2: My best friend she loved candy, though there was one
- 7:35Speaker 2: candy I liked.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Loved. They were called twist. Did you ever have twist?
- 7:42Speaker 2: No, most people haven't. They were delicious, red chewy licorice
- 7:48Speaker 2: vines with a green jel filling. The flavor was watermelon,
- 7:52Speaker 2: but to me, they just tasted like red. You know
- 7:55Speaker 2: what I mean, that fruity, sweet, artificial red flavor. My
- 7:59Speaker 2: friend and I bow love them. We've packed bags full
- 8:01Speaker 2: of them and sneaked them into movie theaters and chomp
- 8:03Speaker 2: away at them.
- 8:04Speaker 1: But they were discontinued.
- 8:07Speaker 2: We looks everywhere for them, every store, the most random
- 8:10Speaker 2: corners of the internet. We even reached out to the manufacturer,
- 8:13Speaker 2: but they were gone, unattainable.
- 8:17Speaker 1: We went as far as to call the company that
- 8:19Speaker 1: made them.
- 8:20Speaker 2: I know that sounds extreme, but have you ever truly
- 8:23Speaker 2: loved something and been so heartbroken, so desperate? It seemed
- 8:27Speaker 2: impossible that something could just be gone. The answer, invariably
- 8:33Speaker 2: delivered with an air of boredom and annoyance, was that
- 8:36Speaker 2: Twist were discontinued indefinitely. If you take one thing away
- 8:45Speaker 2: from this story, I want it to be this Taran
- 8:48Speaker 2: Twirls are not the same. Years past, and we still
- 8:54Speaker 2: occasionally checked the candy aisles at pharmacies searching for Twist.
- 8:58Speaker 2: We visited candy stores as if they had them in
- 9:00Speaker 2: the back, our hopes inevitably squashed. We encountered a lot
- 9:04Speaker 2: of adversity. People told us maybe twists never existed, that
- 9:09Speaker 2: we were misremembering that the candy we'd been searching for
- 9:12Speaker 2: had been tear and.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Toils all along.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Even my therapists urged me to let it go, that
- 9:18Speaker 2: I was clearly clinging to a nostalgic childhood memory, an
- 9:21Speaker 2: unhealthy distraction from reality, that not having them in my
- 9:25Speaker 2: life was good for me. They tried to make us
- 9:29Speaker 2: doubt ourselves, but we both knew the truth. We were
- 9:33Speaker 2: unwavering in our conviction. It was a conspiracy. We joke,
- 9:38Speaker 2: the tear and toils conspiracy. If only we'd known. I
- 9:45Speaker 2: was sitting at home, searching candy history forms for any clues,
- 9:48Speaker 2: any sign of twist when my phone buzzed. My best
- 9:52Speaker 2: friend was calling odd We were typically text only communicators.
- 9:57Speaker 2: When I answered, I could only hear her panicked breathing
- 10:00Speaker 2: for boating settled over me, heavy and suffocating.
- 10:04Speaker 1: I found them, she said, I.
- 10:06Speaker 5: Found the twist, but I found something else. They keep
- 10:10Speaker 5: calling me. It's an unknown number. They never say anything.
- 10:14Speaker 5: I think I turned something up. They're coming for me.
- 10:18Speaker 5: They're probably coming for you.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Then she gasped, followed by a jarring sound of a
- 10:23Speaker 2: phone being dropped, a connection being cut. I called her back,
- 10:27Speaker 2: and all I got was a robotic message that the
- 10:29Speaker 2: number I was trying to reach had been disconnected.
- 10:31Speaker 4: The number you have called has been disconnected.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Fear caught at my stomach, constricted my lungs. I drove
- 10:36Speaker 2: to her house, my thoughts racing. No lights were on.
- 10:39Speaker 1: When I arrived.
- 10:40Speaker 2: It was silent, but her car was still there. I
- 10:44Speaker 2: knocked on her door, no answer. I stared at her door,
- 10:47Speaker 2: willing it to open, terrified, of what would happen if
- 10:50Speaker 2: it did. But then a strange light in the night
- 10:54Speaker 2: sky caught my attention, a ball of energetic white darting
- 10:58Speaker 2: dancing almostus. I was riveted by it. It was beautiful.
- 11:04Speaker 2: I stared at it on moving for hours, uncaring of
- 11:07Speaker 2: the cool, damp air. I remember thinking it was the
- 11:10Speaker 2: anniversary of my dad's death. I wondered if it was him,
- 11:14Speaker 2: Strange thoughts that come to you. I watched it until
- 11:18Speaker 2: my legs were covered in bug bites, my neck ached
- 11:20Speaker 2: from looking up, my eyes burned with exhaustion. The sun
- 11:24Speaker 2: rose and the mysterious light disappeared. I blinked, an unexpected
- 11:28Speaker 2: bloss roaring to life inside of me. Still no sign
- 11:32Speaker 2: of my friend. I wandered around her house, so looking
- 11:34Speaker 2: for some clue of where she was what had happened.
- 11:38Speaker 2: I found footprints, clearly the result of running, leading into
- 11:41Speaker 2: the woods behind her house. I followed them, but right
- 11:43Speaker 2: before the tree line they disappeared. I spun around, searching.
- 11:49Speaker 2: A crisp, crinkling sound tore through the oppressive silence. I froze.
- 11:54Speaker 2: My heart pounded in my chest as I slowly looked
- 11:57Speaker 2: down to the sources of the noise. Something peeked out
- 12:01Speaker 2: from under the sole of my shoe, mouth dry, I
- 12:05Speaker 2: reached for it, refusing to acknowledge the possibility, the miracle
- 12:09Speaker 2: that it would be. I recognized the packaging immediately, bright
- 12:15Speaker 2: red lettering outlined with white spelled out the item I'd
- 12:18Speaker 2: coveted for so long. Twist, frantic hope crashed over me. Reverently,
- 12:25Speaker 2: I took the package in my hand, as one would
- 12:27Speaker 2: a treasured family heirloom. So many memories came back to
- 12:30Speaker 2: me as I gazed upon its beauty. Of family outings
- 12:33Speaker 2: at movie theaters, giggling at the loud cracking of the
- 12:36Speaker 2: illegal snuck in candy, during quiet moments, munching away, as
- 12:39Speaker 2: me and my best friend dug through our Halloween candy halls,
- 12:42Speaker 2: my dad making sure to pick me up any of
- 12:44Speaker 2: the rare packages he saw, just to see the way
- 12:47Speaker 2: My eyes lit up, rashing out those precious, precious ropes
- 12:51Speaker 2: of red. There were tears in my eyes. Finally, I
- 12:55Speaker 2: tore my gaze away. I looked up, and my breath
- 12:58Speaker 2: frozen my lungs. A dark, shadowy silhouette stood in front
- 13:03Speaker 2: of me, A black hole and the periwinkle of post
- 13:05Speaker 2: dawn light. I had not heard anyone approach. I couldn't
- 13:10Speaker 2: be sure if the voice spoke a louder in my head,
- 13:13Speaker 2: high and cold and dead.
- 13:15Speaker 4: You should have let it go. Now your friend has
- 13:18Speaker 4: paid the price, and so will you. It said, where's
- 13:22Speaker 4: my friends? What did you do to her? My voice shook.
- 13:26Speaker 4: We convinced her to comply as we will with you.
- 13:29Speaker 4: To not do so will result in erasure.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Who are you?
- 13:34Speaker 2: I paused, then amended, what are you? His presence with
- 13:39Speaker 2: sinister overwhelming.
- 13:41Speaker 4: We are the shadow, the silent puppet master, your saviors.
- 13:46Speaker 2: We just wanted twists, I said, clutching the package to
- 13:50Speaker 2: my chest, proof that they had existed. There was a
- 13:53Speaker 2: moment of silence. My body seemed frozen in place. Then
- 13:57Speaker 2: the voice said, you.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Should have accepted the tear and twirls.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Anger came to my aid.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Then I shouted at the void, tear and twirls aren't
- 14:06Speaker 2: the same.
- 14:07Speaker 1: They don't have the filling.
- 14:10Speaker 4: That filling was called green Fruit Flavoring twenty three combined
- 14:14Speaker 4: with red forty two. It interfered with our mind control frequencies.
- 14:19Speaker 4: The nostalgia and love for the flavor combination of this
- 14:22Speaker 4: candy allow for resistance. It could not be tolerated. We
- 14:27Speaker 4: discontinued it, erased it, or so we thought. It seems
- 14:32Speaker 4: we underestimated your devotion to a candy that only served
- 14:36Speaker 4: to rot your teeth and degrade your body.
- 14:38Speaker 1: The derision was palpable.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Let go, it said, we can offer you more peace
- 14:46Speaker 4: with our mind control than any manufactured sugary food product.
- 14:50Speaker 4: We can take away the burden of agency of choice.
- 14:54Speaker 2: I thought of Twist, the chewy sweet outside and the
- 14:57Speaker 2: burst of tanky sour green within. I thought of my
- 15:01Speaker 2: friend and I sharing stories and secrets and laughs and
- 15:04Speaker 2: memories over Twist. I thought of my dad, dead a
- 15:06Speaker 2: year ago today, buying me Twist because I loved them
- 15:09Speaker 2: and he loved me. I thought of the mysterious light
- 15:12Speaker 2: dancing joyous in the night sky, unexplained but beautiful. There
- 15:17Speaker 2: was a shrill ringing in my head, disconcordant tearing, forcing
- 15:21Speaker 2: me to squeeze my eyes shut. I threw my hands
- 15:23Speaker 2: up to cover my ears. The package twinkled against my cheek,
- 15:26Speaker 2: and I realized it wasn't empty. My heart pounded against
- 15:29Speaker 2: my chest as I collapsed my knees. I could sense
- 15:32Speaker 2: the presence getting closer, cold tendrils wrapping around me. With
- 15:36Speaker 2: fumbling fingers, I reached inside the package, finding one small
- 15:40Speaker 2: segment of the sticky Revere candy, and just as all
- 15:44Speaker 2: was lost, I popped it in my mouth, chewing frantically,
- 15:48Speaker 2: the pop of sweet and tangy, the texture chewy and gooey.
- 15:52Speaker 1: At once.
- 15:53Speaker 2: An explosion went off in my brain, the warmth of
- 15:55Speaker 2: so many memories forcing away the cold, cutting off the
- 15:58Speaker 2: scream of fury. As I opened my eyes, the dark
- 16:01Speaker 2: silhouette stumbled back, and in one horrifying moment, I saw
- 16:04Speaker 2: its face, gnarled skin, pointed, bared teeth, and red filmed eyes,
- 16:09Speaker 2: before it vanished in one disconcerting blink, as if it
- 16:12Speaker 2: had never been there in the first place. I ran,
- 16:17Speaker 2: I ran, and ran, and ran. I have been on
- 16:20Speaker 2: the run ever since. Looking over my shoulder, the omnipresent
- 16:23Speaker 2: weight of being watched crushing. Now, I hide, waiting for
- 16:28Speaker 2: the shadows to come for me. I managed to track
- 16:31Speaker 2: down a bag of twists. It could be the last
- 16:35Speaker 2: bag in existence. There is no way of knowing, and
- 16:39Speaker 2: no one will believe me when I say they must
- 16:41Speaker 2: be brought back. The flavor combination is illegal. Now the
- 16:45Speaker 2: question is are you a twist person or would you
- 16:50Speaker 2: prefer the tearan twirls? And that's the end, the end
- 17:08Speaker 2: of yes, Yes, I feel like you should have done
- 17:11Speaker 2: it in your creepy alien voice.
- 17:14Speaker 1: He was so good, perfect, perfect.
- 17:19Speaker 2: I hope that you enjoyed it. I did want to
- 17:21Speaker 2: talk about some of the things in there. One which
- 17:25Speaker 2: Samantha immediately picked up on when we did this, I
- 17:29Speaker 2: did it is about Twizzlers. What a candy that used
- 17:35Speaker 2: to be called twist and peels and they were still good.
- 17:40Speaker 2: They were these little like sections of Twizzler, I think
- 17:44Speaker 2: kind of what you're talking about with the Halloween ones,
- 17:46Speaker 2: Like they were just smaller and inside was this like watermelon,
- 17:50Speaker 2: gooey candy stuff. And normally I'm not a big fruity
- 17:53Speaker 2: candy type of person, and I'll just like go out
- 17:57Speaker 2: of my way to not have it in my life.
- 17:59Speaker 1: But for some reason, I loved these. I loved them.
- 18:02Speaker 2: And me and my some of this is autobiographical, Me
- 18:06Speaker 2: and my friend Katie, who's part of the impetus of
- 18:09Speaker 2: this idea, would sneak them into movie.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Theaters and we would just eat them by the handful.
- 18:15Speaker 2: But the tear and twirls in this story are based
- 18:19Speaker 2: on pool and peels.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Yep, which is a different type of Twizzler. But you
- 18:24Speaker 1: picked up on that because.
- 18:26Speaker 4: I like the pulling bills, and also, you know, there
- 18:28Speaker 4: isn't a new form of Twizzlers that has gel like
- 18:31Speaker 4: the canie.
- 18:33Speaker 3: I don't know. There's three different flavors.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Apparently like that.
- 18:36Speaker 3: There's a variety pack for it.
- 18:38Speaker 4: I saw them the other day and I was say, huh,
- 18:40Speaker 4: they got a type of it.
- 18:42Speaker 3: I think it's called Twizzler straws, though, or something.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I'm not like already.
- 18:47Speaker 2: It's so funny how these opinions get solidified and are
- 18:52Speaker 2: so intense because I'm already like, no, it's not the same,
- 18:55Speaker 2: even though it very well could.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Be the thing.
- 19:00Speaker 2: I'm just rejecting this very idea. And you know, there's
- 19:03Speaker 2: probably a very good reason they were discontinues, as I've
- 19:06Speaker 2: tried to touch on this story.
- 19:08Speaker 3: Yes, you did, in a different manner.
- 19:11Speaker 1: In a different manner.
- 19:12Speaker 2: So, the original idea for Twisted was supposed to be
- 19:16Speaker 2: a ten part series that was a real send up
- 19:19Speaker 2: of true crime, and so it was going to be
- 19:24Speaker 2: me and my friend Katie trying to get to the
- 19:26Speaker 2: bottom of what happened to twistin pills, which I think
- 19:30Speaker 2: I called on twisted polls earlier and that it is
- 19:32Speaker 2: incorrect they were called twisted pills, and in the process
- 19:36Speaker 2: kind of bumbling into this conspiracy theory that involves like
- 19:42Speaker 2: we call the FDA, we call the FBI, and all
- 19:44Speaker 2: these people, and then one of us ends up in
- 19:46Speaker 2: jail and then aliens are involved.
- 19:47Speaker 1: So it was supposed to be like a ten part thing.
- 19:51Speaker 2: No one would go for us. I don't know why,
- 19:57Speaker 2: but just to shout out Katie for for spending a
- 20:02Speaker 2: good like two or three hours with me and brainstorming
- 20:05Speaker 2: this and then apologies to literally everyone who's ever been
- 20:09Speaker 2: at a work event with me when I've had some alcohol,
- 20:13Speaker 2: for just telling them all about this idea and then
- 20:15Speaker 2: being like, stop talking about this discontinued candy.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Even better.
- 20:25Speaker 2: But I do think when I have had those conversations,
- 20:28Speaker 2: almost everybody had a similar item or candy from their
- 20:33Speaker 2: life that they were like, I loved this when I
- 20:35Speaker 2: was a kid, and now I can't find it anywhere,
- 20:38Speaker 2: and I've searched and searched and searched, and I have
- 20:43Speaker 2: I have looked on eBay, And you know what, I
- 20:45Speaker 2: probably haven't.
- 20:46Speaker 1: If I had a twist.
- 20:47Speaker 2: And fill right now, I bet I wouldn't even like it, But.
- 20:51Speaker 1: The nostalta would be so powerful though.
- 20:54Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
- 20:55Speaker 1: I think.
- 20:56Speaker 2: I think that's one of the big things about candy.
- 21:00Speaker 2: I was saying, when you're looking back as a kid
- 21:02Speaker 2: and a lot of those big holiday events or fun
- 21:04Speaker 2: events are associated with candy, that it does just become
- 21:08Speaker 2: like this, I'm not sure why I want it, but
- 21:11Speaker 2: I do want it right alsotimes.
- 21:14Speaker 4: It's also just like, again the ways described for you,
- 21:17Speaker 4: this is the true thing that you had, but when
- 21:19Speaker 4: you think of things like the Lion, the witch, and
- 21:21Speaker 4: the wardrobe. I never had Turkish delight, but the way
- 21:25Speaker 4: it was described to me, I was like, oh damn, yeah.
- 21:28Speaker 3: I want some of that. And then now knowing what
- 21:29Speaker 3: it is, I was like, no, I wouldn't. I don't
- 21:31Speaker 3: want that. I don't want that. That's what Turkish to
- 21:34Speaker 3: light was what.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Right, of course, there's a lot of metaform like this
- 21:38Speaker 4: could be talking about cocaine and I was like, oh what,
- 21:41Speaker 4: But that's a whole different conversation, right, But there is
- 21:44Speaker 4: that level of how well it is like descriptor what
- 21:46Speaker 4: you have in your head again, kind of like you
- 21:48Speaker 4: probably wouldn't like it today, but in your head at
- 21:51Speaker 4: that point in time, it was the most amazing dot
- 21:54Speaker 4: dot dot whatever it was. I feel like it's the
- 21:56Speaker 4: same thing with like bit Oh honey, I used to
- 21:59Speaker 4: love that. I'm like, why, no, wonder I'd lost all.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Of my teeth so quickly. Oh no, that stuff is trouble.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of candy is trouble.
- 22:12Speaker 2: You were with me when I was writing this, actually
- 22:15Speaker 2: I was, yes, you were. It was when about a
- 22:18Speaker 2: year ago we were at the beach and this is
- 22:21Speaker 2: one of my like fifteen ideas I had for a
- 22:24Speaker 2: podcast Thirteen Days of Halloween, and this was what I
- 22:28Speaker 2: thought was the top runner, but they did not go
- 22:30Speaker 2: for it. That was good for us, Yes, But I
- 22:36Speaker 2: think it's clear because I hadn't really touched it in
- 22:39Speaker 2: over a year, and when I went back, I was like, Oh,
- 22:40Speaker 2: this is the stage I was in of grief, because
- 22:44Speaker 2: there's so many elements of like the father being dead
- 22:49Speaker 2: and having these memories come back, and then seeing like
- 22:52Speaker 2: making connections where they probably weren't connections, but you're thinking like, oh,
- 22:55Speaker 2: maybe that's some kind of sign or you know, trying
- 22:58Speaker 2: to see those things all over the place, which is
- 23:01Speaker 2: an idea I'm really dorkily fascinated in. Is that human
- 23:05Speaker 2: sea patterns where patterns don't exist a lot? Oh yeah,
- 23:08Speaker 2: And so when I was kind of stumbling through the
- 23:12Speaker 2: strange disclaimer of like, it doesn't really make sense.
- 23:16Speaker 1: I hate it when creators say this, But that was
- 23:17Speaker 1: kind of a purpose.
- 23:18Speaker 2: So it was supposed to be like is this connected
- 23:20Speaker 2: or is it not connected? I don't really need to
- 23:23Speaker 2: go too deep into this silly horror story I read
- 23:25Speaker 2: I wrote, but that was kind of like the idea was,
- 23:30Speaker 2: you know, you're going through this experience, you're having this grief,
- 23:33Speaker 2: and you're seeing these things and you're trying to make
- 23:35Speaker 2: sense of them when perhaps there's no sense to be
- 23:38Speaker 2: made right of them. But the memory of that candy
- 23:43Speaker 2: and the memory of those all those things you created together,
- 23:46Speaker 2: and my dad did buy me twist and fills, and
- 23:48Speaker 2: he would let me sneak them into the theater, even
- 23:50Speaker 2: though he was a big proponent of if you.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Get caught, I'm not going to help me.
- 23:58Speaker 2: And just having those kind of moments based on this candy, right, yeah,
- 24:04Speaker 2: And I do think food is a really powerful memory
- 24:08Speaker 2: in that way, and it can, you know, connect you
- 24:10Speaker 2: to people that you've lost or even people you just
- 24:13Speaker 2: don't see anymore. There are certain foods I'll eat I'll
- 24:15Speaker 2: just be like transported back to college. Yeah, I remember
- 24:19Speaker 2: being in my dorm and watching scary movies and eating
- 24:22Speaker 2: this with my roommate or whatever it is. And I
- 24:25Speaker 2: do have a lot of foods like that based around
- 24:28Speaker 2: Halloween and the fall and you know winter at large.
- 24:34Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think it's a really powerful. It
- 24:39Speaker 2: can be a really powerful connection between you and other people.
- 24:43Speaker 2: As much as we talked about how unhealthy relationships with
- 24:46Speaker 2: food can be, this is one area where I can
- 24:50Speaker 2: form connections with other people right as well. And I
- 24:55Speaker 2: do think a part of this is also about the
- 25:00Speaker 2: traditions we have and we make with other people.
- 25:04Speaker 1: And you know, they can be very.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Silly, like the five candies that I have to get.
- 25:11Speaker 2: It's really ridiculous why I feel that way, or having
- 25:15Speaker 2: you know your friend that you always I have some
- 25:18Speaker 2: groups of friends that will always bring a certain type
- 25:20Speaker 2: of candy and so that candy gets associated with them, right,
- 25:24Speaker 2: And it makes me happy when I have it, and
- 25:26Speaker 2: I think of them and all the times we have
- 25:28Speaker 2: had it in the past, and I think for me
- 25:34Speaker 2: as a kid, that was what Halloween was kind of about,
- 25:40Speaker 2: like you would get the candy.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Like I said, I wasn't really about the candy.
- 25:42Speaker 5: For me.
- 25:43Speaker 1: It's kind of like.
- 25:44Speaker 2: That fun of hanging out with people and making those
- 25:48Speaker 2: connections with people and making those trades like oh, she
- 25:50Speaker 2: wants twizzlers and I want those, right, These kind of silly,
- 25:55Speaker 2: smaller interactions that you really do are really important and
- 25:58Speaker 2: you do miss when that person is gone, right. But yeah,
- 26:02Speaker 2: that's all of that from this very very silly but
- 26:06Speaker 2: I hope fun.
- 26:07Speaker 1: I think it was a fun, very fun yeah story.
- 26:13Speaker 6: Thank you so much, so happen for I enjoyed it,
- 26:17Speaker 6: for your excellent acting, Christina's excellent editing, soundscaping, and thanks
- 26:25Speaker 6: to you listeners for coming along on this journey.
- 26:29Speaker 2: We hope that you're having happy fall times, whatever they
- 26:33Speaker 2: may be. And if you have any ideas for any
- 26:38Speaker 2: other ideas we could try or like fiction, we could
- 26:41Speaker 2: read SB in the public domain, but you know, please
- 26:44Speaker 2: send them our way. We can do that at our
- 26:46Speaker 2: email which is steffid mom stuff at iHeartMedia dot com.
- 26:49Speaker 2: You can find us on Instagram a Stuff Whenever Told
- 26:51Speaker 2: You or on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast. Thanks It's
- 26:53Speaker 2: always to our super producer, Christina, Thank you, and thanks
- 26:57Speaker 2: to you for listening Stuff I've Never Told You to
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