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Bert Kreischer and the Fletch Way of Life · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 4: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Brian, and this week we are joined by our
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  Speaker 1: special guest co-host, Burt Kreischer.
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  Speaker 5: Burt is a comedian, an actor, a reality TV host,
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  Speaker 5: and a podcaster, as we'll get to soon enough. And
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  Speaker 5: many of you out there, those familiar with Burt, well,
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  Speaker 5: you've probably heard his story. So we won't rehash the
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  Speaker 5: whole thing, but we are going to touch on that
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  Speaker 5: part of his life. So for anyone who isn't familiar
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  Speaker 5: with the tale, in 1997, Burt was featured in Rolling
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  Speaker 5: Stone as the top partier at Florida State University, which
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  Speaker 5: led to him then being referred to as the number
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  Speaker 5: one partier in the nation. whatever that means now in
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  Speaker 5: response to the Rolling Stone article after a couple of
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  Speaker 5: options for turning this story into a movie and the
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  Speaker 5: idea changing hands a couple of times as the film
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  Speaker 5: industry want to do the piece became the inspiration for
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  Speaker 5: the 2002 movie Van Wilder starring Ryan Reynolds and in
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  Speaker 5: fact we may just bring him up a little later
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  Speaker 5: but for now let's get rolling as we sit down
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  Speaker 5: just before his show with comedian Bert Kreischer.
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  Speaker 1: Hi guys so usually i'll.
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  Speaker 5: Try to ease my way in with you know just
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  Speaker 5: chop talk for you so i i always like to
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  Speaker 5: start really early on and kind of get a vibe
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  Speaker 5: for people like we we hear stories of the trauma
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  Speaker 5: that you've caused people as an older you know getting
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  Speaker 5: into college years but what was young bert like like
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  Speaker 5: what's the little kid version of bert because it was
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  Speaker 5: florida right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah very innocent i was a really innocent kid i
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  Speaker 1: didn't even really start partying i mean i See, Florida's
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  Speaker 1: different because we did drugs at like 14, but we
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  Speaker 1: didn't consider ourselves doing drugs. It was like smoking a
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  Speaker 1: little weed and drinking beer. The first time I ever
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  Speaker 1: tried alcohol was probably in like 7th grade, 8th grade.
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  Speaker 1: Now I look at that and I go, fuck, what
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  Speaker 1: was wrong with me? But I don't know. Florida was
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  Speaker 1: just a very different lifestyle. A lot of my friends
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  Speaker 1: now are either dead or in rehab or sober.
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  Speaker 5: I'm finding that with people too. a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: I used to be friends with, I'll try to look
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  Speaker 5: up online now and they're gone. Like, I don't like
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  Speaker 5: that game.
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  Speaker 1: No, I, I, it's so funny. I, um, the majority of, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think people, the, the person that people think I am,
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  Speaker 1: they go, he must've been like that his whole life.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm, by the way, I'm not even that person.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds crazy to say.
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  Speaker 5: That's kind of why I wanted to throw that out there.
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  Speaker 1: But like, I'm not, I'm not even, I'm not even that, like, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really concerned about having good shows so I don't
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  Speaker 1: get fucking hammered before I go on stage. And I
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  Speaker 1: bring a drink on stage. Which is smart. But I
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  Speaker 1: only have a couple sips. I don't murder it. So
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  Speaker 1: for the most part, I think I haven't changed much.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very sensitive. I was always very, very sensitive. Very
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  Speaker 1: little introspective as a kid. But very outroverted but introspective.
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  Speaker 1: I would get in my head about shit.
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  Speaker 5: And start to make yourself crazy. I know people that
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  Speaker 5: still do that. They'll be thinking about stuff, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: you're the only one thinking about that. But what if
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  Speaker 5: this person thought, they said this, and I'm just like, you.
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  Speaker 1: Are the only one. There's a personality test I heard
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  Speaker 1: Milo Yiannopoulos and Joe Rogan talking about. It takes 12 minutes,
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  Speaker 1: and I took it today.
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  Speaker 3: Uh-oh.
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  Speaker 1: And it said I'm a campaigner.
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  Speaker 5: All right. I mean, there's worse things, I suppose.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 5: It depends on what you're campaigning for, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: There were very few questions that I was in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of. I was like, yeah, 100%. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I've changed entirely.
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  Speaker 5: What was your direction at that point? Because again, there
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  Speaker 5: are a handful of kids that are just hardcore comedy
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  Speaker 5: right off the bat, but a lot of times you
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  Speaker 5: find your way to it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I guess, were you drawn to the arts and that
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  Speaker 5: type of thing?
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  Speaker 1: Or was it more of like... I was drawn to
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  Speaker 1: singing and acting. That's where I kind of excelled as
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  Speaker 1: a kid. But not in like a my mom got
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  Speaker 1: me an agent kind of way. Just in like school
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  Speaker 1: plays and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: The ham version or the semi taking it serious?
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  Speaker 1: No, I never take anything. I don't take anything serious
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  Speaker 1: to this day. That's probably for the best. It's 100%.
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  Speaker 1: It's not my personality. And I didn't get into comedy
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  Speaker 1: like When I got into comedy, I felt so outside
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  Speaker 1: of it because everyone seemed to know every comic working.
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  Speaker 1: And they seemed to have influences. I had no influence
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  Speaker 1: coming into comedy. I got into comedy because I like laughing.
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  Speaker 1: And I like fun. I like big times. I like
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  Speaker 1: good times. And so I didn't really like... I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like a... Demetri Martin, I think, was probably more obsessed
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  Speaker 1: with the rhythm of comedy and the pacing of comedy
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  Speaker 1: and the math of it and the riddle part. I
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  Speaker 1: could give two shits. I mean, I love when he
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  Speaker 1: does that. Yeah. But for me, that does not interest me.
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  Speaker 5: There's so many different approaches to it. And like, there
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  Speaker 5: are people that will master one but can't even get.
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  Speaker 1: Near the other.
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  Speaker 5: Like, it's just, it's totally different.
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  Speaker 1: Again, it's math.
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  Speaker 5: It's a different kind of math that your brain doesn't process.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's, I think if you look at comedy
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  Speaker 1: these days, I think you gotta look at it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit like mixed martial arts, you know, and have
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  Speaker 1: a broad base. Like, be great at something, but have
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  Speaker 1: a broad base and be able to do it all.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Neil Brennan's last special, Three Mics, was really
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  Speaker 1: fucking interesting. And it was interesting because he did it
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  Speaker 1: with three mics. One was a set-up punch mic. One
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  Speaker 1: was stand-up, traditional stand-up mic. And then one was storytelling.
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  Speaker 1: But in my head, I really, I mean, it works.
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  Speaker 1: It works, you know, thematically because it gets the audience in.
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  Speaker 1: But for the most part, I just wanted to see
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  Speaker 1: him just I didn't even need to see him switch stands.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to hear more of that shit.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. It was cool.
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  Speaker 5: It's just exercising them all at that point, like trying
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  Speaker 5: to stretch yourself in different directions, which, again, not everybody
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  Speaker 5: can do. So that's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Do you try to do things outside of your box normally?
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  Speaker 1: I try to do things outside my comfort zone. I
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  Speaker 1: think if you do an hour special, like I did
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  Speaker 1: the last one, it was all about my kids and
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  Speaker 1: then a good story and some sex stuff. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's exactly what I'm rewriting right now,
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  Speaker 1: now that you say that. But I'm not trying anything.
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  Speaker 1: I need to try. If you watch Bill Burr, it's
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  Speaker 1: a great paradigm to look at. Every special, he tries
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  Speaker 1: to do something new and something a little different and
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  Speaker 1: a little like challenge himself. And that's what you got
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  Speaker 1: to do. You can't just do the same shit you
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  Speaker 1: did last time. You got to try to do a
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  Speaker 1: little more. So, yeah, I don't know exactly what I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing with this hour. I think I got a really
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  Speaker 1: good hour right now, my new hour, but there's not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of– I haven't challenged myself with anything totally new.
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  Speaker 5: Is it always looking ahead? Once you've got the one
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  Speaker 5: you're currently on down, it's just, okay, I'm done with that-ish.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you readjust as you go. But for the
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  Speaker 5: most part, are you then looking forward to what's the
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  Speaker 5: next hour going to be? Is it constantly looking for that?
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  Speaker 5: Or are you comfortable just sort of existing in the
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  Speaker 5: one you'd work on?
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't know. For me, I think
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  Speaker 1: for every comic, comedy is not about the set you have.
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  Speaker 1: It's about the set you're working on. You always want
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  Speaker 1: it to be better. You know, like you always want
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  Speaker 1: to write a new joke. That's the only reason you
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  Speaker 1: get back up on stage because you're like, what? I
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  Speaker 1: don't get on stage to collect a check, oddly enough.
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  Speaker 1: I go to press to collect a check. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you go to the club and you stay sober. I
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  Speaker 1: get on stage to fuck around and have a good time,
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  Speaker 1: try to find something new.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned when you got into it, was that
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  Speaker 5: still in Florida when you first started?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got into stand-up in 19. The first time
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  Speaker 1: I tried stand-up was in Florida at Florida State in 1997,
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  Speaker 1: and then that was 20 years ago. but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really start standup until my 26th birthday. So technically I've
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  Speaker 1: been doing it 18 years.
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  Speaker 5: Was it like that first time? Was it something that
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  Speaker 5: felt like this is what I want? Or was it just,
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  Speaker 5: did it scare you off of it where you took
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  Speaker 5: you those years to get back into it?
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  Speaker 1: No, I said, this is what I want. I just,
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  Speaker 1: it's really hard. Standup is really hard to start. And
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  Speaker 1: I started in New York. So it was, you know, it, it, it,
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  Speaker 1: This was a time when, like, I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 1: reason we have a stand-up boom right now is because
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  Speaker 1: guys like me and Steve Byrne and Big Jay Oakson
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  Speaker 1: and Kurt Metzger and Kevin Hart and Bill Burr and
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Kelly and... and you know we were all moving
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  Speaker 1: to New York to start so it was really hard
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  Speaker 1: to get on stage Judah Friedlander Jordan Rubin Ben Bailey
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  Speaker 1: DC Benny I mean all these guys were all on
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  Speaker 1: stage at the time along with guys who weren't yet
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  Speaker 1: famous like uh like Dave Chappelle Dave Chappelle wasn't Dave
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  Speaker 1: Chappelle I mean it was Dave Chappelle to us yeah
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  Speaker 1: But like Godfrey, Jim Brewer, Jay Moore. I mean, these
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  Speaker 1: were all guys that were getting their sets. And then
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  Speaker 1: there were guys above them, like the David Tells, Colin Quinns.
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  Speaker 1: So like to get on stage was really fucking hard.
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  Speaker 5: And you're coming out of that lull, really. It's like
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  Speaker 5: you come out of the 80s and like so much
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  Speaker 5: of America just went, ugh, I'm done with that. So
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  Speaker 5: like to be coming in in that downtime is like
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  Speaker 5: a fight all of its own. Yeah, it's like you've
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  Speaker 5: got all these guys coming in And everything's kind of
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  Speaker 5: been burnt at that point. It's like, okay, it's a
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  Speaker 5: whole new horizon. We have to bring people back into
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  Speaker 5: the comedy club. So we have to find a whole
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  Speaker 5: new way to approach things and new avenues to head down.
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  Speaker 1: So I got to New York and I was kind
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  Speaker 1: of bumping around. I don't know. I'd also been in
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  Speaker 1: Rolling Stone magazine and been famous through that. So I
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  Speaker 1: think I was looking for any opportunity to get in television.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do stand-up, but it was really hard
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  Speaker 1: to come by. And then on my 26th birthday, my
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  Speaker 1: dad gave me a phone call that changed my life
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  Speaker 1: and uh and i started doing stand-up that next evening.
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  Speaker 5: I know you've told the van wilder story a million
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  Speaker 5: times so i i wasn't going to go through that
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  Speaker 5: again but i did want to ask like you into
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  Speaker 5: the rolling stone thing how did they find you like
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  Speaker 5: of all the schools of all the guys like how
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  Speaker 5: did they come to you was the thing that i
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  Speaker 5: was always like that's weird that you know they picked
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  Speaker 5: one guy and it was you yeah yeah so how
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  Speaker 5: did they come about you.
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  Speaker 1: They were trying to do an article about Florida State.
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  Speaker 1: And so they reached out to a bunch of the
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  Speaker 1: presidents and everyone, like all the different organizations. And they
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  Speaker 1: were like, hey, can anyone point me in the direction
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  Speaker 1: of a guy who could show me like a broad
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  Speaker 1: spectrum of the school?
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  Speaker 5: He's been around here a while now.
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  Speaker 1: I was there like six years at the time. Six
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  Speaker 1: and a half years. Six years maybe. Six and a
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  Speaker 1: half years. And so funny. Yeah. And so. We, I got, I, they,
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  Speaker 1: first five guys they called happened to be my friends.
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  Speaker 1: And they all said, two of them thought it was
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  Speaker 1: me prank calling them. And so they directed them my way.
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  Speaker 1: And then he called me and I happened to be
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of a bong hit. And he was like,
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  Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me? And so, yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: ended up partying with him for like probably a week,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, probably like a full week. And he spent
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  Speaker 1: the night on my couch. I mean, he went to
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  Speaker 1: class with me. He did everything with me.
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  Speaker 5: This was the writer for?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And him and I got along really well. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's got a disease now, I think. I wish
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  Speaker 1: I could reach out to him.
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  Speaker 5: If you're listening, we'll have a guy get a hold
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  Speaker 5: of us.
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  Speaker 1: No, he was a really sweet guy. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: so funny. We only really had that one week together,
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  Speaker 1: but it changed my life totally. And now here I am,
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  Speaker 1: like a different person. I mean, a very, very different
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  Speaker 1: human being than the one he met.
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  Speaker 6: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Again, we need to find him and revisit this whole
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  Speaker 5: approach later.
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  Speaker 1: I read something about him. I think he has some
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  Speaker 1: neurological thing, and I think he's just chilling. He had
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  Speaker 1: a daughter, I think. He had a daughter. Her name
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  Speaker 1: was Eric Hedegaard. He was a really nice guy. He
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  Speaker 1: was a really, really, really sweet guy.
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  Speaker 5: Well, then I guess as you get notoriety from that,
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  Speaker 5: it's like, was it one of those like, okay, I'm
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  Speaker 5: into comedy, but everybody kind of uses comedy as a
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  Speaker 5: stepping stool to other things if that's.
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  Speaker 1: What they want.
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  Speaker 5: So were you just, okay, do I want to get
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  Speaker 5: a movie? Do I want to get on a TV series?
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  Speaker 5: Everybody thinks they want a TV series. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: So were you trying to use that as sort of.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I had no concept what stand-up was. I really
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  Speaker 1: didn't understand it. I didn't know. Like, I remember, like,
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  Speaker 1: Dimitri was very calculated. He still is, I think. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's someone who knows what he wants and gets
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  Speaker 1: what he wants. My only goal at the time was
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  Speaker 1: to be, to get on stage in the village and
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  Speaker 1: be able to work weekends at the village. That was it.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, if I could get into the
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  Speaker 1: comedy cellar, that would be great. But I was so
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  Speaker 1: far away from that. I mean, professionally, I just was
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  Speaker 1: not that good of a comic. And then I just
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  Speaker 1: got discovered really quickly by Will Smith. And it, and then,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden I was like a
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  Speaker 1: year later I was on television and I was, and
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  Speaker 1: I had television shows and then it's, you know, people go,
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  Speaker 1: it's a journey, not a race or whatever. It's true.
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  Speaker 1: And there are guys that look at it like races
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  Speaker 1: that look at it. Like I need to, I, they
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  Speaker 1: like said, I need to have this. So I, this
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  Speaker 1: time I need to be headlining by this time.
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  Speaker 5: It's what people in the professional world tell you you're
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  Speaker 5: supposed to do.
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  Speaker 1: But, um, No, I just, I really didn't have, I
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  Speaker 1: never had a plan about stand-up at all, about any
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  Speaker 1: of it. Like, you know, even right now, my managers
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  Speaker 1: and agents are talking about doing some theaters, and that
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  Speaker 1: just makes me nervous. To have any sort of plan
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  Speaker 1: makes me nervous. I go, oh, come on.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. Once they're coming and you're a crowd,
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  Speaker 5: I think that takes a little of the pressure. Instead
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  Speaker 5: of having to win over a room. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: at this point, you're already the headliner, so it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, I guess once you find your people
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  Speaker 5: and they come specifically to see you, or is that
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  Speaker 5: more pressure on you?
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  Speaker 1: There's no pressure. Once they're your people and they come
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  Speaker 1: to see you, I mean, the show's already been fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's the problem. Not the problem, but one
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  Speaker 1: of the things I loved was going into a room
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  Speaker 1: with people that didn't know me. The art form is
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  Speaker 1: making strangers laugh. And so every show, I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: been having a lot of sold-out shows lately this year. And,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not, it's, there's always people that have never
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  Speaker 1: seen me there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, like, it's never.
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  Speaker 5: I was the one friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or the girlfriend. It seems to be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of girlfriends. They get drug along, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like, all right, fine.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You're still picking them out of the crowd?
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  Speaker 1: No, but, no, but, no, but I just, it's, it, that's.
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  Speaker 1: Hone in on them. It's just part of how this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, part of how it works. It's always, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to when I started and it was all, like,
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  Speaker 1: 150 people who had no fucking clue who I was.
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  Speaker 1: That's the art form. That's the fucking art form because
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of comics in New York and L.A.
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  Speaker 1: who never get out of New York and L.A. and
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  Speaker 1: only perform to fucking people that go to that one
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: club because that's the style of comedy that's done at
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: that one club. And then they go on the road.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: They're like, the road sucks, man. A fucking bunch of
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Trump supporters. You're like, no, it's called America.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: That's what we're doing this for. We're making comedy for everyone.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Not just fucking people with hipster ideals. I want to
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: make the hipsters laugh too because honestly I probably have
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: more in common with them than anyone else. Just in
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the sense that I do live in LA and I
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: do like certain shit that not everyone gets. I don't know.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes any sense.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: As you're doing other projects, you start Doing what normally is,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, not really reality, but you're sort of playing
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: yourself on a lot of the shows.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I like that more than anything.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Do you
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: not want to do anything character-based, but you like the.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: I doubt I'll ever star in a movie where I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: play the guy who discovered how to split ions.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: That seems like it's a goal for you now.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: No, it's not my goal. I had an agent that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I really, really liked. He was a great guy. George Hess.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: And one time he told me, you're not going to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: get on a sitcom until someone says, we need Bert
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: on this sitcom. He's like, you're never going to play
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the wacky neighbor. And I was like, yeah, I don't
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: want to play the wacky neighbor. Who wants to be Kramer?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: It worked out okay.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Until later years. It did not work out okay for Kramer.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: At the million dollar paycheck point. No, Well, yeah. I mean,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying anyone can get that. That's really hard
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to come by. But I can tell my agents, like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: send me in for Wacky Neighbor number three. And after
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a while, I'll book one of them. Yeah. But I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: don't want to do that. I like being me. I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: like being me on stage. I'll be me in a sitcom.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I'll be me in a single camera hosted reality. I'll
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: be me on late night talk shows. I'll be me
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: on podcasts. I'm really good with just being me. I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: don't need to be, you know.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I think that's what we're moving towards. Like, I feel
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: like that's and that's what I keep trying to convince
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: other people that are sort of like not paying attention
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: to this new wave of media that's kicking in. I'm
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: just like, they're still trying to process things like it
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: was 20 years ago. And I'm like, it's a whole
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: new world. It's like nobody will even entertainment like shows like.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Is anybody watching this Access Hollywood nonsense where they're super cheesy?
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: The people that are just out of the loop.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Not the people we want to speak to.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like anybody who's really a fan of that
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: stuff just watches these hosts and they're like, oh my god,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: what is this soulless thing sitting there reading a teleprompter
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: where I'm like, once you've crossed over into this kind
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: of thing where people are making their own shows on
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: YouTube and making their own podcasts, it's so reality-based that
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't watch that. I can't go back anymore.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the problem, though. The conversation you're having right now,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I've had with myself maybe 100,000 times. Yes, I think
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: there is this new wave of media. There's a new
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: wave to get media.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: But I think still it's few and far between when
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you find good media. Oh, yeah. Let's take YouTube creators
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: for a second.
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: It's the sea of things out there to fight through now.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: YouTube creators, there are very few that have a genuine voice.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Most of them are doing prank videos and social experiments.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: They're just doing whatever is popular, which is what made
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: traditional media lame. Well, I mean.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: They were probably those same idiots before. They just didn't
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: have a way to capture it. They were just like, hey,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: watch what I'm about to go do to their friends.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: And now their friends just have a camera.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. You're missing my point. My
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: point is the reason I think people are turning off
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: from traditional media is it's a bunch of copycats.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: And that's what's happening online and on podcasts is a
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: bunch of copycats. Very, very few podcasts are authentic where
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you're like, fuck, this is a really good one. Like
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I found one today. It's with Sam Harris. And I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: started listening. I was like, wow, this conversation is way
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: over my head. And I was like, I'm going to listen,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: but it's not the production values kind of shit. And
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, but I like it. It's very different
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: than what's out there. That's why Rogan's so good is
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: because what he's doing is so fucking different. Doug Benson.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Doug Benson has been a part of this genre since
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: its inception. And so... I think what it's missing is
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of, you know, look at My Favorite Murder.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Those ladies came up with a very original idea. Look
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: at The Dollop. The Dollop is fantastic. But they're original,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and it's a new media form.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: It doesn't last long, though, because I know one of
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: the ones that I really like took a really simple
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: idea that nobody'd done before, and then, like, now there's
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: hundreds of them doing the exact same. Actually, they've been
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: on Doug's show. The guys who did Star Wars meant it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: And again, they took a movie and broke it up
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: into 60-second segments and then sat down and broke down
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: every scene by the minute just to extrapolate everything you
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: can out of this movie. It's like it's only an
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: hour and a half. It's two hours. But now we've got...
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: a season's worth of us yammering on for, you know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: 45 minutes every minute about this one minute. I mean,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: it's ridiculous, but now there's an entire network devoted to
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: that thing. Within a couple of years, every movie has
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: now been done. Like every geek in the world has
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: taken that format and is kind of knocked it out.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, with their permission, I guess, I think they
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: signed off for it, but still when you're the guy
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: coming in 32nd doing that, you know, how exciting is that?
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Like you're just kind of taking somebody else's concept. So,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know. That's my thing. Like, it's rare that
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I find anything that's a really different idea or a
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: different approach, and then very quickly it's knocked off.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at me and Ari, I think, are
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: just derivations of, like, what Joe and Maren were doing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And a little bit of Burr, you know? Yeah. I mean,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it's not like we're super original. The difference is we
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: are authentic talents. So, what we bring to that mixture...
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Much like you would argue Seth Meyers or Cole Bearbring
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: is our own voice. And so we do things our
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: own way. So whereas Ari takes a thematic spin and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: talks to one guy about one part of his life
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: for the entire thing, I just kind of want to giggle. Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no nobility in that, but that's what
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I like. I like giggling. I like good stories. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: like to giggle.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Again, I think it is the story. Again, I was
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: just trying to explain to somebody the difference between, because
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: they were still sold on a very short time period,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: like trying to change the way podcasting goes. And I'm like,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: you don't have to fit any of those rules anymore.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: That is the beauty of what a podcast is.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, my buddy Steve Renizzisi's got a podcast coming
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: out this week called Hear Me This Book. where he
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: brings in a person and they tell him about a
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: book they've read.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: That's kind of a variation on the movie thing I do.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's what I started trying to do was
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: just like, yeah, I can do a basic interview kind
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: of thing. But what I found I liked more was
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: when we would spin off and find some sort of
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: just geek crossover area where we all just sort of like, oh, well,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: this is something I like to talk about too. So
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Taking what you normally have to tell the same stories
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: over and over and just breaking from that and being like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: let's just talk about a movie. I think you get
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: more from people just hearing them have a semi-normal conversation
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: than the same interview.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Over and over and over. I think so. And I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: think everyone brings something different to every interview.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was a period of time where I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: found someone really interesting on Rogan. I'd just reach out
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to him and go, hey, would you want to do
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: my podcast too? And Duncan and Aria and I were
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: doing the same thing. But we're so different men. I mean,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: even my podcast with Duncan is going to be very
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: different than Joe's podcast with Duncan.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Sometimes I will listen to the same guest on two
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: different shows.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: There is a way to vary it up. There's an
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: app I work with called Laughable. Let me show you.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It's really fucking great. I listen to my podcasts on it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I was listening to Milo. I was just telling you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: about that. Milo and Joe. But So like you can
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: go to Milo and you can see all the podcasts
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: he's ever been on. And so if you're like, wow.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: That's the world. Louder with Crowder. Louder with Crowder. I'd
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: definitely listen to that one. Painkillers already. The best of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the Anthony Cumia show.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: That's going to be fucking. But so you can see
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: everything he's been on. And so then you can find
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: someone's profile like Killer Mike and see what podcast he's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: been on. Run the Jewels. Vlad, the Vlad couch.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, Vlad.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Vlad's an interesting guy. Snoop, I listen to him on
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Snoop's podcast. You gotta listen to Charlie Murphy on Snoop's podcast.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: It's funny how much, I would say that it's changed,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: but it still really hasn't. Like, there's still so much...
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: out there that people have no ideas going on so
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: we live in a world where like still 75% of
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: people don't know what the hell a podcast is but
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: the rest that do like we need an app to
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: keep track of how many you've been.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: On dude I've been on a lot of fucking podcasts
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but Snoop Snoop had Charlie Murphy on and it was
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: one of the best interviews I've ever heard because it's
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: just it's just them hanging it's not it's you know
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it's like the problem with sometimes with late night talk
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: shows you only have like five minutes seven minutes to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: tell a story I think it's.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Again, as much as I grew up loving talk shows
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: and what led to this, I guess, but at the
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: same time, I feel like they're gone now. Letterman left,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: and I was just like, everything new that came in,
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: I don't respond to the same.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Carson was different.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Carson was amazing.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Even Letterman was different, but he was doing it so long.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: My pre-interview for Letterman was, you've got three minutes unless
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: he likes you. Enjoy it. Have a good time. So it's,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you know, A podcast is different because I would definitely
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: say I've made my career on podcasting. And most of
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: it is from telling stories on Joe's podcast. And people
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: hearing those stories and going, oh shit, I want to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: see this guy tell those stories live.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: It's changed, I think, everything. Again, I appreciate so much
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: the little world that it's created and that it allows
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: people to have this kind of relaxed setting and just
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: storytelling sessions. But it is funny how much it's changed
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: comedy because at this point, like I assume they just
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: show up from the state and be like, okay, we're
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: issuing you a podcast. And like, I, it's rare that
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: I find a comedian that doesn't have a podcast. There's
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: so many now that I'm just like, I will be
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: a fan of them and still not again. That's how
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: many podcasts there are now. I'm like, Oh, and they
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: have one too. And I didn't even know it. And
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I like their comedy. And I'm like, there's so many podcasts.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: It's impossible to fight your way through it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, yeah, I mean, I guess if you're
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: in your position, I'm sure it is, but you see
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it that way. I see it like.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, I enjoy it, but it's just, it offers
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: a whole new weird perspective that like now there's so
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: much out there that it just sort of changes the
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: entire like landscape of.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Everything, I feel like.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: But it's not a bad thing. Again, I think it's
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: giving everybody that voice.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't discourage anyone from wanting to start a podcast.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I listen to Hannibal Buress' podcast. I really like it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: He's only done like five episodes. My buddy Ethan Klein
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: started a podcast, H3H3 Productions, him and his wife Hila.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: And I went and did it immediately. I was like,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: fuck yeah. I think it's good. I think it's really
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: good to start a podcast. I think it's a great
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: way to get yourself up. My wife and I are
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: doing one. every Sunday and we tag it on to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the end of my episodes. I, yeah, I've seen a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: couple of people like starting to do, like.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: They, they will find a way to do it either
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: with their wife or significant other and like make it
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: a thing for them to do. And it's, again, I
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: think it's a whole new world opening up that like
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: you never had that kind of an option unless you
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: were a couple in show business, you know? Yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's, you know, I wouldn't discourage anyone from
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: starting a podcast because, I told Tammy Pescatelli, I said,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: start a podcast. Just start putting it up. She goes,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: what if no one listens? I said, they won't. Doesn't
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: they won't and then and they didn't for mine for
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: for four years i did a podcast i'd probably say
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: four years and then this last year everyone showed up
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to it yeah and now my podcast has like a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: legit fan base and i'm like oh now i really
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: feel like i'm thank god i didn't stop.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah i mean it's it's its own weird world and
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: yeah i i love it and it's it's still like
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: us figuring out how it's going to work and how
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: it's going to fit into media, because I think it
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: is going to, in 10 years, I think the entire
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: system is going to be different, so it's like, I
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: feel like it'll be interesting to see where this gets
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: plugged into all of that, because everything's changing so much
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: within two, three years, it's like it all starts resetting,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: and there is no network television like there used to be,
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: and theatrical movies aren't the same as they used to be,
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: so it's like, I think everything's changing so fast, it'll
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: be interesting to see what happens to podcasting in a
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: very short.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Amount of time. I think it'll be cool. I think
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of people will do some really cool things
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: with it. Yeah. It's just going to get better and better.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: You know, Tom Papa does that podcast where he writes
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: a script every week, and they read it, and they
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: all act in a part. I think it's fun.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: There's so many options that, yeah, I feel like we
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: still are finding new avenues.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: My God. I fucking feel like shit. That's it.
• 30:55
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• 31:04
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• 33:27
  Speaker 6: products they have to offer.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: My name is Gator McCluskey. You know why I'm here,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: don't you?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I said you know why I'm here, don't you? Burt
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Reynolds is Gator McCluskey.
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: He's a booze-running, motor gunner, law-breaking, love-making rebel.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Only two things in the world I'm scared of, women
• 33:47
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• 33:49
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• 33:55
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• 33:56
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• 33:58
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• 33:58
  Speaker 1: To Jackson Road, cut him off.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Or chasing the ladies.
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: Now I know why they call you Gator.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Gator's the fastest thing alive. Yeah!
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: Burt Reynolds is White Lightning. He never strikes twice, because
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: once is enough. White Lightning, from United Arts. Rated PG.
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: Parental guidance suggested.
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: ¶ ¶.
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  Speaker 3: This is Nick Offerman, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, for God, Don, Don.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: What is this man saying? What is this man doing?
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: What in the hell's the matter with you?
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: What is this man's name?
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: My name is Igor Stravinsky.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Hi there, I'm Harry S. Truman.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I'm Don Corleone.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: They call him Fletch.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Fletch! Fletch!
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Fletch, F. Fletch.
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: He's good at defending himself.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: You better tie your shoelaces.
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: Disguising himself. And getting himself into trouble.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Well, it'd be fledge.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Make my day. He's a reporter. There are no tags
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: on these mattresses.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: Who's about to write the story of a lifetime.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Will you kill me? Sure.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: If he lives.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Thanks a lot!
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: There isn't a woman he can't charm.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Can I borrow your towel for a sec, Mike?
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: You alive i take it drop your shorts and bend
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: over mr babar.
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: A risk he won't take probably feel 100.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: River to get to the truth it looks like you
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: two have a lot to talk over we'll just catch
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: the last 10 minutes of dynasty.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: Universal pictures presents chevy chase as fletch my hero welcome
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: to it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: They want to tell black fiction.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Now the word is out.
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: You are the one who's causing all the friction. And
• 38:24
  Speaker 11: now the heat is coming down.
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: Hey, look.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Get out of town.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Get out of town.
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: Get out of.
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: Town.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Get out of town. Go north.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Well, since we mentioned the movie thing, you want to
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: go ahead and get into this week's movie?
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this week's movie is Fletch. Have you seen Fletch?
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: I have. I was glad you picked it because it's
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: been a long time since I've watched it, so it
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: was good to re-watch it. I'm just going to give
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: it a little rundown here. This week's Sofa Theater feature
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: is Fletch. The year is 1985. the director, Michael Ritchie,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: and the plot, according to IMDb. I always say IMDb
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: is bad, but this one's really bad. Irwin M. Fletcher
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: is a newspaper reporter being offered a large sum to
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: off a cancerous millionaire, but it is on the run,
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: risking his job and finding clues when it's clear the
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: man is healthy.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: It's horribly written.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: That's really bad.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: So, spoiler alert, we're going to ruin this for you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: So.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: I threw it out to you what you wanted to watch.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Is this always been a favorite or what made you
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: choose this?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite movies ever. This movie is...
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: My wife used to say I had cave time movies
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: which were movies I could put on. I already know
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the plot too and I could fall asleep to because
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I was so familiar with it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And it would relax me and this is a movie
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that I must have watched this movie no joke probably 3,000 times. Jesus.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I've seen it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: I've seen it a lot.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I saw the movie theaters with my uncle.
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I saw... Again, I don't think I saw... I think
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I saw this on VHS. I saw the sequel in
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: the theater. Thank you very much.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I saw the sequel. Where are the Nazis from Natchez?
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: I want to get to that later because I think
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: there is a weird difference between the two that I've
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: been trying to pinpoint after re-watching it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I've been obsessed. I've been obsessed with Fletch. And... I mean,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I want to say in a weird way it helped
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: form who I am today. Like this... Fletch character. You know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: like it's the Bill Murray's and the Chevy Chase's, the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: funny guy who's not technically good looking, but now he's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: good looking because he's funny. And he's got like a
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: charm about him.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: That wins you a lot of points.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And I mean, Chevy Chase and Caddyshack, that Ty Traynor character.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: But Fletch for me was like, that's how I navigated college.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I watched that my freshman year probably every single night.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Every single night I watched Fletch. And I mean, just
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the idea that he'd go, like, you know, we used to,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: me and my buddy Hutch used to have a sign
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: that we'd put, and my buddy Hutch, who named his
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: son Fletch. Oh, God. He really loves Fletch. Hutch and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I used to have signs on our car that we'd
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: put up when we parked illegally that said clergy. I mean,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: that's such a Fletch move.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: That's definitely a Fletch move.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: You know, I used to get up and get on, like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: stand up in front of the mic and just start talking.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Whenever there was a mic out, like a podium, I'd
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: always walk in, walk right up on the podium and
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: start speaking and see how long I could take it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Until someone drug you away. Which is a fucking complete
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and total Fletch move.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Pretty much.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, the movie, in a way, defined my life.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I have a fucking Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I have a Magic
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Johnson jersey.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Do you have that rig in your house? Because you
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: need the... The first time I saw that, I was like, oh,
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: that's amazing. Well, just the giant cutout of him and
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: the ball that attaches to the wall. I was thrilled
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: with that when I first saw that when I was
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: a kid.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: It's so cool now, as an adult, going down to
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the beach that he was at. Looking for junkies. Yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: looking for junkies. It's two stories in one. It's a
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: really beautiful screenplay.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: That's what I was going to ask. Have you ever
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: read any of the novels before?
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I did. Because it has such a following. I read
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: one of them. I forget which one it was.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Because I wondered how close it stuck to the style.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm sure plot-wise... I read Fletch Libs.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: It seemed very close.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: In my opinion.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Because I know he did... Like, I know the author...
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: What is his name?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: I actually wrote it down. Oh, I should know it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Gregory MacDonald is the actual writer of the novels. And, like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: he seemed like he was actually involved in this process. So,
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: I feel like... The thing was weird, and this was
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: also on IMDb, did you read who the other options
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: were that he passed? Because supposedly, as the writer of
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: the book series, he had final say on who got
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: to play Fletch. And the other options it said were
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Mick Jagger and Burt Reynolds.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I can see Burt Reynolds.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: That was my reaction. I was like, Mick Jagger is
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: way the hell out in left field.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what... I can see Burt Reynolds.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: But Burt Reynolds, I could see if they tried to
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: do it more straight... I could definitely see them, especially
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: in the 80s.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: No, Burt Reynolds had that. At this time, he's making
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Cannonball Run.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: But he's also doing Heat and Stick, and he was Mr.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Tough Guy.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: So I could almost see him trying to do it
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: a little more straight, mystery kind of thing, and him
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: just going in and being more of a tough guy
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: that sort of muscles his way into these situations versus
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: the funny. Because there's definitely funny Burt, but like.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I've been obsessed with the remake, because I want to
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: remake it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Flesh lives. They keep.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Teasing that for years now. They keep saying they're kind
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: of thinking.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: They're like Jason... What's his name? The skateboarder? Ball rats?
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: Jason Lee.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Jason Lee is always in the running.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I could have seen that. Actually, what was funny is
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: your twin went on to be you. I was thinking
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Ryan Reynolds is not bad these days. Watching him do
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: that delivery in Deadpool, I was like, damn, he could
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: probably do it.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: He would destroy Fletch.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: I think it would piss people off because he's starting
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: to get a weird backlash now.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: What's he going to backlash for?
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: Because he got popular. All it takes is getting popular.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I think in the beginning people didn't like him because
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: he was too funny. And then he started trying to
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: do serious roles and they were like, who the hell
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: do you think you are doing these serious roles? So
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: then he's Deadpool, and he makes tons of money at
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: the box office, and he gets his Golden Globe nomination,
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: and now I think people are going.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: The other way.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: People are just pissy.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: They just like to get.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: Angry about everything.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I always thought, and I would be curious to ask
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: him this question. I always thought he was very similar
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: to Dane Cook.
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Because Dane was really big in Hollywood at the time
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: as a comic.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: And they started taking off around the same time, too.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Well... kind of like, I mean.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: Comedy wise, Ryan was already working, but yeah, like it
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: was a while before Dane crossed over into making movies
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: of some sort, but yeah, but like.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I always wondered if, if Ryan saw Dane, like, you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: like there's a weird, there's always like people stealing genre
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: or energies or, or a new nuances and like actors
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: are really bad at it. Cause they'll go to a
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: comedy club and they'll see what works and then they'll
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: just add it in their audition. Yeah. I did an
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: audition one time and, uh, I would get the sides
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: really early because I was a working actor. So I'd
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: bring them into my acting teacher and then he would
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: make copies of these sides and then give them to
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: all his people in the class, his class that he
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: was teaching. And then whatever choices I would choose, he
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: would then teach to his class. I was like, fuck you, man.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Your fucking acting class sucks.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: You're ripping me off.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, there is.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, I wonder how... acknowledging you are of even
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: doing that. If you're a really good actor, do you
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: start just mimicking people?
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Actors inherently are liars.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you adapt to that without even being 100% conscious
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: of it.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: You see someone do something cool and you go, oh,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I'll put that in my shit.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: You're like, I want to make that work for me
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: down the line and you file it away somewhere and
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: you may not even know who you stole it from.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I wonder how much he's even aware. But yeah, his
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: delivery was always kind of there. I mean, the freaking
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Pizza Place show, it's like he still had his timing
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: down and he had his delivery.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: That's where i thought he reminded me a lot of dame.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah which again was around that time it's like dame
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: was already working at that point stand-up wise.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: So dame was big he was about to blow up
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: yeah so.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: I mean it was it was definitely one of those
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: things could have been worked in there whether he realized
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: it was questionable i suppose but but yeah that's that's
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: one of those i've been i was trying to think
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: of today i was like i kept hearing that i
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: was like who the hell would you oh ryan rannells
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: i'm like Yeah. So, again, I guess we'll see what happens.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that movie just defined the way I,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just everything. And it's such a great plot.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: It's two different plots in one. It's all about, and
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: it all ties into the, it's like it ties in
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: at the end.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: As one big plot, which you don't realize until halfway through.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Who was the woman in Fletch?
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: She's cute, though. I remember she wasn't a lot of
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: stuff at the time, and then I don't remember seeing
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: her lately.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: That's Harold Faltenmeier there. I was going to go into
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: that too because that seems so essential. Harold Faltenmeier. The
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: synth music. It seems so essential to that movie.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Dana Wheeler Nicholson. Yep. She still looks fucking good.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Damn straight.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: How old is she? Try to guess.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, I did this on a recent episode and it
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: went badly for the celebrity in question.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, fuck. I don't
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: want to know. She's in another one of my really
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: favorite movies.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: See, I was trying to remember where I knew her from,
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: because she's in a couple at that time that were
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: pretty big. What's the other one?
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Tombstone.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, I just re-watched that last year.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Wyatt Earp.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: She's the first wife.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: She's the troublemaker. She's the one pretending, because that's the thing.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: By the end of watching that, I'm like, I think
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: she's working her illness off. And working him, she's a
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: pretty shady character.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: In that movie. Even though... She's fucking so hot.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: Feels like we should not like.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Fletch was in 1985. She is 52 years old right now.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: See, I would have gone a little younger, so all right.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: Last time I went over, and that's going to piss
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: everybody off. See, I was thinking mid-40s, so good for her.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: But yeah, and that's one of those that the Harold
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Fulton Meyer tie-in was one I was going to get
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: to especially re-watching it, it so reminded me of Beverly
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Hills Cop. And I think that's why. The more I
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: started watching this, I was like, I still think this,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: I think Fletch holds up. I think the reason is
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: it's not trying to be funny. It has a plot
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: built in that is a smart plot it simplified by
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: the end, but smart nonetheless. And then like the fact
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: that Chevy Chase comes in and doesn't approach it as
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: everybody else thinks I'm funny. I think I'm funny. Like
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: he's so straight about his own ridiculous behavior. Like he
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: never smirks at the camera at all. Like no matter how,
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: there's some pretty ridiculous things going on. He never winks
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: at the camera. There's never a tone of like, I'm
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: amusing myself. He just says the stuff. because it is
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: his nature. And it's again, seems pretty close to the
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: smart ass nature of Chevy chase anyway. So it's like,
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: it feels pretty natural, but it never feels forced into
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: the plot, which was what I always thought about, about
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: Beverly Hills cop too, around the same time. I think
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: that one is fun because it's not meant to be
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: Eddie Murphy's movie. It was supposed to be a Sloan
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: movie that they went, Oh, we can't get him. Well,
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: this guy's really big. Let's see if we can get in.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: And all the comedy comes with Eddie Murphy. So it's like,
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: it's still a serious cut. That's why I said I
• 50:39
  Speaker 5: could almost see them trying to do a Burt Reynolds thing.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: It's like, you can take that plot and make it
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: work either way. It just depends who you shove in
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: the lead.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: And if you've got a good writing, comedies, it's no plot. Like, like, like,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Ninja. I mean, it's so trying to be funny.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: Too hard.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: But what you should do is you should make a
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: movie serious and have the person be funny with... The
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: only person, people that ever got the jokes was the audience.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: No one in the scenes ever got the jokes.
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: And I was watching the things that I would probably
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: laugh at the most was just goofy little things he
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: was doing. And I'm like, are all of these improv...
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: Just like him walking down the hall in the hospital
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: and slipping and almost falling. I'm like, did that just happen?
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Or was he planning that anyway and it's still not
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: in the script? I'm wondering how much of the goofy
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: little things along the way, just like him trying to
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: talk in the recorder and flipping the eject button.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Are you recording this?
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: I almost feel like that might have been in the script.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: But him flipping the eject open when he goes to start,
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: I'm like, was that in the script? There's so much
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: of that little goofy stuff that I'm like, That's the
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: comedy coming through for me.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, even his characters were, you know, when he
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: pulls the Band-Aid off his nose and there's two little
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: blood dots.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: There was actually blood, I know. It's like he put
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: a lot of– and that was another one. The more
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I'm watching it this time, I'm like, I don't know
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: that he needs these elaborate disguises. Nobody– other than the
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: one with the beard when he literally was hiding from
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: people who knew what he looked like.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Everything else, I'm like, I think he just likes wearing
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: silly disguises. Like he doesn't need these. It's just for
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: him to get into this lie, he wants an extra
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: little thing. He wants fake teeth. He wants to add
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: this weird aspect to it. To almost make him get
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: into character.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I love the lines that, like, when he goes, I
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: should have a three o'clock with what's-his-name. She goes, yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: And he goes, Brenda should have called ahead. She goes,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: who's Brenda? He's like, my secretary. She goes, who are you?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I'm Brenda's boss.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: That dynamic. That was one of those I'm like. again,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: that's almost like you using it in the real world.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: That's the kind of stuff you can kind of get
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: away with in the real world and sort of do
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: whatever you want. I had a friend that used to
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: do that. He was just naturally like could get away
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: with anything and was like, the more I watched that,
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: I remember just like anything he would try to do,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: I was like, that would never fucking work for me.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: It's something about your mode and I'm like, there are
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: those people in the real world that are kind of
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: in this Fletch world that are just like, I'm on
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: my own plane of existence and if I just do
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: my thing, I can coast about 99% of the time
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: and nobody calls me on it. And it's, that's, I
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: don't know, it was funny watching that because I'm like,
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: so much of this you could probably get away with
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: if you just have the right attitude and keep going,
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: nobody calls you. They're just like, oh, okay, here, here's
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: your phone number, here's your whatever you want. They just
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: give people, if you have the right attitude, they'll be like, oh,
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: all right, that's fine.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: May I help you, Doctor?
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's me, Dr. Rosen-Penis.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just here to check Alan Stanwyck's file.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Dr. Rosen-Rosen, I'm here to get you a records room.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: It's Dr.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Rosen. I want to check the records room.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Dr.
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: Rosen, where's the records room?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Next to pathology. Would you do me a favor and
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: take care of these things?
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I'd like to check Alan Stanwyck's file. What the hell
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: is happening? Where the hell's the records room?
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: I can't hear you. What?
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: B-1.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Why don't you just collate these for me? Where did
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: you say that was?
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: B1.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: B1.
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much. You can take the elevator.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: What was the name of the couple at the country
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: club that he kept getting?
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: Oh, the one he kept adding on their bill. But again,
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: I like that he didn't just go with anybody. He
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: picked this guy who's being a jackass.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, he'll be back. He had to go get a colonic.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: And you're like, what? He just is so.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Well, and it's weird that it's also like.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: This is when, again, going back and looking at it now,
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: it's like, it's so a film noir. It's just a
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: modernized LA-based, bright, sunny film noir. But it's like, even
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: so much with the voiceover, it's not pretending to be
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: anything else. It's very obviously just this modernized version of it.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: But just how much of that, you watch him explain everything.
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: You watch him go through these motions of figuring out
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: the mystery that it's like, again i think that's why
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: it works so well is because that stuff still holds
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: up even though you're starting to see weird like there's
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: so much of them like oh yeah it's 1985 because
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: i'm like none of this really works as a plot
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: in a in a google world yeah i mean the
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: fact that like half of the shit he figures out
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: he could have googled instead of traveling to utah or
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: whatever like all of this crazy stuff he's doing to figure.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Out the mystery i'm like make fletch now.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah like everything would get every well by the end
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: that's why i said very simplified plot by the end
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: like he was going to use his body and then
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: just light it on fire and they were going to
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: think it was him because he was similar side i'm
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: like we're still starting to have csi right i mean
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: it was 85 not 1885 no they would have never
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: found out.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: They didn't i mean they didn't start using they didn't
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: start using dna testing until.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: Mid 90s maybe or 2000 say 2000 was it i
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: don't know i'm just like because i've always said that
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: i was like pre by like 80s anything before that
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: you could just get away with anything like you could
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: just murder people and move to another town and they'd
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: never figure it out.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: It's only now.
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: That like, well, you can't do anything. They're going to
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: track you down no matter where you go. They've got
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: evidence and everything's being filmed at every moment of the day.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: So it's like, you can't do anything now. But I'm like,
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: it's funny to think even in 85, you could just
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: murder people, put them in a car, light them on
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: fire and go to whatever country.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: The majority of movies you can't make now because life's changed.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Like anytime I see a cell.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Phone in a movie, I'm like, well, It's changed everything.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: The only movie that the cell phone is a part
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: in that it hasn't changed is Zoolander. Because the cell
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: phone's an inch big.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: That's what it's coming to. Although now they went backwards
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: and they got bigger again.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a big phone. I love a big phone.
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, mine's giant. And I'm just like, when did we
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: start carrying a laptop in our pocket? But that's essentially
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: what it is now.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do. I mean.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: Potential to do anything now.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'd do without this. My right
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: hand is so dexterous because of this. Yeah, Fletcher's a
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: fucking great fucking movie. I mean, let's see what it
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: says on... Oh, these are all... Oh, wow. Let's try
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: to guess where Chevy Chase's career went south.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, it was not far after this because I think
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: by the time you hit Funny Farm.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Ready? I'm going to say a movie. I'm going to
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: say a Chevy Chase movie, you tell me if it's
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: thumbs up or thumbs down, meaning classic, or never watch
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: it ever again.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: You start hitting a lot of numbers.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Fletch Lives.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: To me, that started heading down. I have not rewatched it,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: so at the time, I thought kind of thumbs down.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I still watch it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: I want to watch it again now, having rewatched this.
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: I want to compare them.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: A little bit. Caddyshack?
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Obviously up.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Foul Play?
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: I love Foul Play so much.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Vacation? Vacation.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: I still consider that a classic.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Funny Farm.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: Funny Farm. At the time, I went, this is not
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: really up to speed.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I loved Funny Farm.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: But again, I haven't watched it since the time.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: But this was like me.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: On VHS going, this isn't the same. I remember seeing
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: it start changing in his career because I loved him
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: in that mid-80s.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: So right now, we've got him up to 89, I think.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Cops and Robertsons.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Ugh.
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: Even at the time, I thought it was kind of
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: a mediocre effort.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Caddyshack 2.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: What the hell was he?
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: By the way, that's almost rewatchable. It's so bad.
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see. I'm not above watching any movie.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: I don't care how bad it is.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: I still fall on the positive side. It's not vacation,
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: but it's beloved now because it's a holiday classic.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: National Lampoon's European Vacation.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I thought it was bad at the time.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Three amigos it's like.
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: It gained a following It didn't do well, but now
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: you'll see they play it on TBS every 15 minutes.
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: It found a weird follow. I feel like it's not
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: out and out funny. It's just an amusing premise that
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: they beat every joke. They beat every joke out of
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: it and I like performances from all three of them.
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: You're never injuring yourself laughing. It's just kind of like Okay,
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: that was funny. Like, it's a mildly amusing movie.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Spies Like Us.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: I didn't love it at the time. I have not
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: watched it probably since the 80s.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Memoirs of an Invisible Man.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: That's one I want to revisit, because I feel like
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: that was miscast. I have not touched it since the theater.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Are you ready for the movie that I think ruined
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: his career? Nothing But Trouble.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah. Everyone's possibly, I mean... Demi started taking a dive.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Dan was trying to hide behind as much makeup as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: he could.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Man of the house. Oh, see.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: You're working with JTT, you're in trouble.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: Again, I think it was shortly after this. I think
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: by Funny Farm, I was already watching the slide of like,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: this doesn't seem like old times. Because I love seems
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: like old times.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: What's Hero? Hero?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Hero? Was he? No, that's not the one I'm thinking of.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: I remember the, like, 90s hero.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Why is he in Hero?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Was he like a.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Snow Day?
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, Lord, Snow Day. He is doing some classics now.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: This is fucking... How about Stay Cool? What's Stay Cool?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Not be cool. Successful author. Reunites with his high school beauty,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Winona Ryder, when he returns to hometown. When was Chevy
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Chase in this? He just wanted to work with Winona Ryder. Man,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: as soon as he got... Man, it stinks. And no
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: one likes Chevy Chase, apparently.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, like in the real world?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: That's what they say.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: Because I've not heard anything good in 10 years. You know,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: it's like every story. I'd already kind of started hearing
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: stories before the TV show. And by the time Community, like,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: there were no good stories from the set of Community.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no shit.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: Everybody seems like they just turned on him. And maybe
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: rightfully so. Because if any of those stories are true,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: he seems like kind of a dick.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, we should probably wrap this up. The
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: show's starting.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: I suppose so. I think what was interesting was this
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: was also a time when you could be a newspaper
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: reporter and actually solve mysteries and log in hours and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: hours of work.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Now the guy would have a podcast. He's a very
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: famous podcaster. He'd have his own YouTube channel.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: Jay Don't Speaks.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: He'd be Philip, what's his name, DeFranco.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: It'd be Jane Doe Speaks.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: What's Jane Doe Speaks? I'd watch that. Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Just him talking to a microphone in his cheesy little
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: apartment that he had to break into on a regular basis.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, what a great... I wish I could find
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: that exact apartment.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: And climb in the window every time.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I'd rent it.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I'd rent it to have Fletch's apartment.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I got that kind of money that I could rent
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: an extra apartment in LA.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess unless they leveled it, it's probably
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: still there, right? So it's like... You've got to go
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: find them.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: They shot it in L.A. I guarantee you the apartment's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: in the valley. I bet it's probably a set.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: Inside. I mean, he climbed up a fire escape somewhere,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: but may not have actually been in that set up there.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: I did want to throw it out to Richard Libertini,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: that guy. I mean, he was in a lot of
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: stuff in the 80s, but his boss... It was amazing. Like,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: that little dynamic, and that's kind of what I took
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: from it, was that whole little set could have been
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: its own movie. So much so, I wanted to see
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: him and Larry in, like, a sitcom or something.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Everything's recent.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Well, let me see that.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Alan Stanwyck, commercial airline pilot from Provo, Utah. Formerly a
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: test pilot, member of the Jaycees.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: Did you move on?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: Married boy in aviation.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: He's no dummy.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: That's big bucks.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Mr.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Stanwyck's parents, Marvin and Velma of Provo, were unable to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: attend the wedding. Those are three names I enjoy, Marvin, Velma,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: and Provo.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Hold it there.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Cancer. Cancer Society Benefit. Internist, Dr. Joseph Dolan.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: With internist, Dr.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Joseph Dolan.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I wonder if that's his doctor.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: One way to find out.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: The two of him and relatively unknown Gina Davis was
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: just such a fun dynamic in the like tiny amount
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: of time they had together.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: They work so well.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: That I'm like, to me, that was the takeaway. I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: was just like, I love seeing these two. I love
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: this little dynamic of the office. So I think that's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: what works so well is like, not only does the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: mystery hold up, but like all of these other aspects
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: still have personality and still work. No matter how silly
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: his goofy costumes are, it's like the dynamic between people
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: and his performance is still solid.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Geena Davis is great. I loved her in this.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: And again, right after that, started totally getting on board
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: with everything she did. She got to the point she
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to do stuff anymore. But again, that run
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  Speaker 5: of hers in late 80s through the 90s, she had
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  Speaker 5: some really great performances.
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  Speaker 1: Still watch A League of Their Own if it's on.
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  Speaker 5: I was in that.
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  Speaker 1: You were in it?
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  Speaker 5: I'm in the stands. during the world series oh really
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  Speaker 5: they shot in somewhere up in indiana and went up
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  Speaker 5: for a day when they were doing like the crowd
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  Speaker 5: scenes so somewhere in the background there during the world
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  Speaker 5: series fuck i'll be waving at people i did yeah
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  Speaker 5: i did actually see them all out they were all
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  Speaker 5: out on the field though it literally was madonna sitting
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  Speaker 5: down on the baseball field i'm like all right and
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: rosie o'donnell standing she was on the mic the whole
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  Speaker 5: time no surprise really damn comics Because, I mean, again,
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  Speaker 5: she just came straight off of stand-up at that point. So, like,
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  Speaker 5: every time they needed to address the crowd, she was
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: on the mic. She was up there just running her mouth,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: being goofy. So, again, I barely even recognized her from her, like,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: stand-up show that she was hosting at the time. But
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: I remember she just walked around the stands talking on
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: the mic the whole damn time.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty fun. Martha. The one, the ugly one?
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  Speaker 1: She was just in a movie I saw the other day,
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  Speaker 1: and I went, oh, shut the fuck up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she was on a sitcom for a while. I
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: saw her a decent amount. She popped back up.
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  Speaker 3: Who's she?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: For being Martha, you'd assume she wouldn't have much else,
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  Speaker 5: but I feel like she got a few breaks after that.
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  Speaker 6: Let's see.
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  Speaker 5: She was probably on the TV series.
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  Speaker 1: What's that?
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  Speaker 5: The A League of Their Own TV series.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Was there a TV series?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, because I. We had Christina Lisa on, and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: she was the new kit on the TV series. And
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: I brought it up because I'm a dork, and I
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: watched it when it was on television. She was like, oh, God,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: that was awful. Why would you watch that? And I'm like,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: you're the one that starred in it. Don't call me out.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Gina Day was still beautiful. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: She was just at Sundance, I think.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: League of Their Own. Let's see who was in that.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Martha Hooch.
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  Speaker 5: Hooch.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. What was she in that I saw the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: other day? Robin Hood Men in Tights. Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: Again.
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  Speaker 3: Dracula.
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  Speaker 1: Dead and loving it.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, she was hanging around the Mel Brooks camp, obviously.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Girls. Oh, richer or poorer. I want to remake a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: shitty 80s movie.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: That's what they should do. They keep doing stuff that
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: pisses people off. Pick something nobody cares about. There's plenty
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 5: of them out there.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Go dig through your old VHS tapes.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: There's something out there. Somebody's waiting to remake Spaced Invaders
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: or some nonsense. Everyone passed over as they were picking
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: a movie. Go remake that one.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: All right. We've got to wrap this up. I've got
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: to get on stage. How do we end?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: We know you love Fletch, so that's our big wrap-up.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: It's influenced your life. Most movies have sent me down
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: one road or another, so it's good to know I'm
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: not alone. I guess for people out there, where should
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: they come find you? You have projects and podcasts.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the road. Just go to BertBertBert.com. You
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: can find my podcast there, my book, my tour dates,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: my merch, everything. That's where I'm at. BertBertBert.com. B-E-R-T, B-E-R-T, B-E-R-T.com.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: Was BertBert.com already taken too?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: No, and four would be ridiculous. I mean, it would
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: be ridiculous. I was trying to do a thematic thing
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: like Torah, Torah, Torah.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: All right, I like that. Another classic, so I'm good
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, BurtBurtBurt.com.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: All right, so you heard him. Go there. Come see him.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: Support his podcast, because podcasts are changing the world.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: Same Geek Feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 9: Moving, making my connection.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 11: Something's up, you can feel it in the air.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: I never know who's watching.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 11: You haven't got a friend. Have you heard the news?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 11: Making all the headlines.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: You feel stabilized.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 11: Have you heard the news?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: Coming through the grapevine.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 11: But you're running out of time. Bit by bit, one
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 11: way or another. Bit by bit, running undercover tonight. Bit
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 11: by bit, getting to the bottom.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna break my morning.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: Coming out, you can read it in the times.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 11: Have you heard the news?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 9: Making all the headlines to be a satellite.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 8: Have you heard the news?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: Coming through the grapevine.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: Dutch is running out of time.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 11: One way or another. Bit by bit. Running undercover tonight.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 11: Got to learn the rules.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 8: Getting over it.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 11: Bit by bit. Getting to the.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Bottom.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: Bit by bit.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 11: Nothing's going to.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: Stop me tonight.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Tonight. Tonight. Tonight.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Bye. Have you heard the news?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: Making all the headlines.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: Zooming via satellite.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 11: Have you heard the news?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: Coming through the grapevine. Fletcher's running out of time. Nothing's
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 9: gonna stop me tonight. Bit by bit, nothing's.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 11: Gonna stop us tonight.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 9: Bit by bit, nothing's.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 11: Gonna stop us tonight.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: For me, this would all be on my podcast. I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: find this the most engaging conversation.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: Well, if that was the case, though, this would be
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: the beginning of every episode. Especially now, because everybody has
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: a show. So they're always like, oh, I've got that one.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: A lot of people who listen to podcasts always fancy
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: that one day they'll start a podcast.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: Then they realize they're a lot of freaking work.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: And then, I don't know, it's been, you know, sorry.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: It's hard to explain, but like, I'd love some fucking tea.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: That was something. Getting in and Uncle Phil was the
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: cop that came and arrested him. I forgot all about that. Again,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen it since he was Uncle Phil. Maybe,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know, but an extra little bonus there.
• 1:12:44
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  Speaker 4: Talk hard!