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05/07/26 - Hour 2 · The Huddle

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  Speaker 1: Buddle armand Sarian's right there on, Billy Schmid, Drew Olsen
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  Speaker 1: on vacation. He'll return with us coming up on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Have a lot of lot more fun with all of
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  Speaker 1: these topics in the world of sports. The Jimmy Haslm
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  Speaker 1: conversation amidst the Taylor Jenkins introductory press conference that was yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: John Horse still having words at that presser. More than anything, Arman,
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  Speaker 1: as we started Power number two, I enjoyed yesterday. We
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  Speaker 1: heard from all three parties, right. We wanted to hear
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  Speaker 1: from Jimmy, We got Jimmy Haslm. We wanted to hear
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: from Taylor Jenkins. We got a lot of Taylor Jenkins
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  Speaker 1: and commanding presence. A big, big fan of how he
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  Speaker 1: commanded a microphone and talked into the microphone, tucked into
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  Speaker 1: the microphone so you could hear him on the broadcast.
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  Speaker 1: You could hear actually what he was saying. And then
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  Speaker 1: John Horse. It was nice to be able to hear
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  Speaker 1: some of this stuff from John Horse, who you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe was a little more a little fainter, but all.
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  Speaker 2: Three got their time.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't as similar to the Matt Lafleur introductory press
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  Speaker 1: conference where Mark Murphy is like, hold.
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  Speaker 2: On, let's get some of these let's get some of
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  Speaker 2: these questions. I'm going to take it.
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  Speaker 1: Or I think it was like fifty eight minutes some
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  Speaker 1: content taking forty seven minutes of Mark Murphy.
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  Speaker 2: It was an even split. Yesterday at the Milwaukee Art Newseum,
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  Speaker 2: I thought, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was, and it was like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: this is our triumvirant now, this is our brain trust,
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  Speaker 3: but this is a leadership committee right now for the
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  Speaker 3: Milwaukee Bucks. Obviously Wes Eton is the one guy out there,
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  Speaker 3: but people were asking the question if he's the governor
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  Speaker 3: right now, and that's why he talked if Wes.
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  Speaker 2: I think Wes still is. But yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Believe West is still technically the acting governor at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: I do believe Jimmy takes over in twenty seven, twenty eight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I believe next year is his start of the five years.
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  Speaker 1: But well, partnership or partners partnership.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, at the risk of sounding naive, which I
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  Speaker 3: usually do, I tend to think it was more of
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  Speaker 3: a logistics thing why he was there. Maybe West wasn't
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  Speaker 3: or maybe he felt like, hey, maybe I should be
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  Speaker 3: up there talking. You know, I have it much because
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  Speaker 3: that was kind of like the first I'm watching it
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  Speaker 3: yesterday and I remember thinking to myself, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: just feels unusual. I know Jimmy has has been the
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  Speaker 3: owner of this team, or at least partial owner for
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  Speaker 3: a while, but like, I just don't feel like I've
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  Speaker 3: heard him talk really at all, and he hasn't been
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  Speaker 3: as visible. It's like, is he disconnected, but really he
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  Speaker 3: hasn't talked as much. So it was nice to at
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  Speaker 3: least hear from, you know, the guy that's gonna be
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  Speaker 3: you know, nice to hear somebody's intentions with my daughter.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's the way I looked out for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Like your intention with his basketball team, you're you're you're
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  Speaker 3: owning this team now. You are you basically have the
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  Speaker 3: fate of our team in your hands. Now, I'd like
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  Speaker 3: to hear your intentions and what you think of and
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  Speaker 3: what your ideas are and what you want to do,
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  Speaker 3: and the tonality of your conversation.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, it wasn't bad at all.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we obviously some of us at least have
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  Speaker 3: an idea of Jimmy Hasim was an owner from the
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns debacle, but I don't know that a lot
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  Speaker 3: of that is because of the decisions he made or
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  Speaker 3: not because of the decisions he made. So the reality is,
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  Speaker 3: I'm willing to take Jimmy HASLMS Bucks ownership as its
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  Speaker 3: own entity without it trying to influence myself. What what's
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  Speaker 3: going on in like that because it's a totally different Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's a totally different situation. Yeah, And what the Sean
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  Speaker 3: Watson uh does or doesn't do? And with the massage part,
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  Speaker 3: where it really isn't Jimmy Hasm's fault. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: he did sign him, but it wasn't like he didn't
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  Speaker 3: get in something mess. So I like to try to
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  Speaker 3: tell myself, all right, this is this is Jimmy has
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  Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Bucks owner. Take that for what it is.
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  Speaker 3: Don't try and let everything else influence you.
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  Speaker 1: And and the Jimmy HASLM Bucks ownership has not started
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  Speaker 1: out great. But now now we got to now we
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  Speaker 1: got a moment in time to point to and some conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought it was I thought it was everything
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  Speaker 1: you needed to hear yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: And also coincided with some tough luck, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: big injuries in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Things like that.
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  Speaker 3: No matter what, people will equate what happens when I'm
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  Speaker 3: losing on the court.
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  Speaker 1: To what does hiring a coach that you had to
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  Speaker 1: fire forty four games and.
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  Speaker 3: That wasn't good, right, That whole situation was maybe a
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  Speaker 3: little awkward. Yeah, But I guess my point is it's
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  Speaker 3: easy to take the pomp and circumstance when the team
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  Speaker 3: that you own, you know, goes on a generational run
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  Speaker 3: and all the players are in their prime and they
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  Speaker 3: would have titled things work out for you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: now you have something to do with that, but also
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  Speaker 3: things work out in your in your favor, and I
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  Speaker 3: thought that, you know, hey, great for you know, great
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  Speaker 3: for Mark Lasry got the title off in the Sunset.
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  Speaker 2: It worked out well for him.
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  Speaker 1: So now that now one of the bidders for the
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  Speaker 1: team in Las Vegas. That crazy how that happened? Crazy
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  Speaker 1: how that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, make it count up and he started it up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, because let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Billy, if somebody could have could have called that one, you.
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  Speaker 2: Did well, Okay, I got it. You know, to your
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  Speaker 2: warn that's fine, you know, like.
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  Speaker 1: You you want to go into the market and when
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  Speaker 1: you're into the world a big business that was the
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  Speaker 1: big big business to roll through. Uh, gonna be some
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  Speaker 1: big business rolling through in the NFL here coming up soon, arman.
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  Speaker 1: You teased yesterday and the promo that people are always
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  Speaker 1: very excited to be able to hear and know that
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: the huddle is live at five every single morning, five
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  Speaker 1: to eight. And if you have not told a friend,
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  Speaker 1: how dare you tell your friends? Why are you Why
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  Speaker 1: are you holding out on all this fun information to
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  Speaker 1: conversation with all of your friends?
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  Speaker 2: Old Dobbler to do that, Go tell your friends. Come on,
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  Speaker 2: You've got a lot of friends. He's gonna tell everybody.
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  Speaker 1: And he tells us on the talking text line as
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  Speaker 1: well and on the YouTube comments good things and bad things.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, you had asked a question of is this
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  Speaker 1: Packers roster better than last year? And off of our
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  Speaker 1: conversation yesterday about potential individuals that could or could not
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  Speaker 1: be joining the Green and Gold before they have their
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  Speaker 1: first game coming up, I had to do some real thinking.
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  Speaker 1: And as much as I would like to say yes,
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  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know on paper. If I can say
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  Speaker 1: that right away that the Green Bay Packers roster is
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  Speaker 1: better right now than last year?
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  Speaker 2: What about armand? Sorry?
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  Speaker 3: On that side, it's tough because do we judge it
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  Speaker 3: based on a healthy roster?
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  Speaker 2: On healthy roster?
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  Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I think that's a big factor
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  Speaker 3: because you know, Tucker Kraft was healthy last year until
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't. Micah Parsons was healthy last year until he wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: So what players are and what they become is also nonlinear.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: We talk about that a lot, but it's something you
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  Speaker 3: have to ask yourself, Like you know, is is Matthew
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  Speaker 3: Golden an upgrade or downgrade from Romeo Dobbs? Like you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to say. Matthew Golden has a lot of
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  Speaker 3: talent there, for instance, but it hasn't been proven yet
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL level, whereas Romeo Dobbs did have a
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  Speaker 3: sort of level of proven commodity to him. Right, So
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  Speaker 3: I think you go position by position and there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of gray area. But this is also interesting discussions
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  Speaker 3: to have, like.
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  Speaker 2: Do I yes or no?
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  Speaker 3: Do I believe Lucas van Nez can be better than
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  Speaker 3: Rashan Gary?
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  Speaker 2: Yes? Do I believe he's proven it yet? No?
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  Speaker 3: So do I think they're better than last year? I
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  Speaker 3: really don't think I do, but I believe they have
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  Speaker 3: the ability to become better than what the team was
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  Speaker 3: last year as a ceiling, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the internal improvement is always was always going into
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  Speaker 1: the offseason going to be their biggest source of improvement,
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  Speaker 1: as difficult as that is to always quantify because you
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  Speaker 1: can't point to this signing, that signing. I think Hardgrave
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a really good addition for that,
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  Speaker 1: A good one. As strange as it sounds. I think
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  Speaker 1: Saint just is also going to be a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Folks that watched him in Washington are like, ah, who who?
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  Speaker 1: We watched that guy for the Washington Commanders and there's
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  Speaker 1: not a whole lot of help coming from that side.
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  Speaker 1: You watched this stuff from last year in Los Angeles
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  Speaker 1: and it's a lot more improved. And for a veteran
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  Speaker 1: on the outside in a room that just is gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of turnover and competition in the quarterback room,
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  Speaker 1: I think you can get better from there.
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  Speaker 2: I also like we played the hits.
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  Speaker 1: I also think it's not a hit to say that
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  Speaker 1: Keshawn Nixon's year last year was not as.
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  Speaker 2: Bad as it gets made out.
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  Speaker 1: To be right, Like the low lights can be very low,
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  Speaker 1: and I think we've all glammed onto the final moment
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. However, in totality, I thought he was
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  Speaker 1: better then would meet the eye and actually kind of
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  Speaker 1: a value for what you were potentially paying for definitely
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  Speaker 1: what you were paying him, and that you can get
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  Speaker 1: better there. But he can also play better. So like
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  Speaker 1: the difficult part of just saying, well, they added this guy,
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  Speaker 1: so they're clearly better. I think we've seen a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different times the individuals that you add, especially in
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  Speaker 1: free agency, the hit rate is I mean drafted can
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  Speaker 1: be closer to less than fifty percent, especially even in
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  Speaker 1: the first round. I think you're grabbing a solid, big
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  Speaker 1: time impact player right out of the gates.
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  Speaker 2: I think free agencies closer.
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  Speaker 1: To fifty percent than people would would like to you
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  Speaker 1: would admit, And I think the Packers are a great
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  Speaker 1: living proof of that. Over their last two jumps into
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  Speaker 1: the first day of free agency, Xavier McKinney and Josh
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  Speaker 1: Jacobs great hits, ye Nate Hobbs and Aaron Banks swinging
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  Speaker 1: a mess like so even though one of them is
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  Speaker 1: still on the roster this year, and I actually think
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  Speaker 1: you can get better. It's hard to be worse than
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Banks and have a worse injury luck year than
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Banks had a year ago where he literally got
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  Speaker 1: hurt on.
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  Speaker 2: The first day of pads.
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  Speaker 1: The possibility for them to get better is mostly inside
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  Speaker 1: the room. Does Tucker Craft have a better year went
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  Speaker 1: healthy than he did last year? Well, if he's on
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  Speaker 1: the field for more games, I think the numbers are
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  Speaker 1: going to be better. I definitely think Christian Watson is
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  Speaker 1: going to be better, even if you just pro rate
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  Speaker 1: out the games he had from a year ago, a
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  Speaker 1: year after a year removed from ACL reconstruction. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's definitely going to be better when he stays healthy
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  Speaker 1: and hard to be worse for the standard that you've
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  Speaker 1: set for the offensive line, and as much as as
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: he has been maligned in his first two years, I
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  Speaker 1: think I can see Jordan Morgan being an upgrade at
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  Speaker 1: left hackles. That's a big which is one of the
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  Speaker 1: most premier positions to have. So I think the internal improvement,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely believe they will be better and those individual
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  Speaker 1: players will be better.
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  Speaker 2: Do I know right now for certain?
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  Speaker 1: Then they're better than the team that was nine to
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  Speaker 1: three to one and had a lead against the team
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  Speaker 1: that was hosting the AFC title game last year. Not necessarily,
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  Speaker 1: but I do feel a little bit more certain of
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  Speaker 1: their frontline players, it feels like than some others.
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  Speaker 2: Stam well, the Jordan Morgan one is the big one.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 3: I think if Jordan Morgan can play well at that position,
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  Speaker 3: he can be better than Rashid Walker. But we just
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  Speaker 3: don't know much about that, and that has to improvement.
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  Speaker 3: I think Zya Franklin should be an upgrade over Kuai Walker.
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, but unproven as well. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: not as confident the receiver room yet. I think you're
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  Speaker 3: losing a level of production with Romeo Dobbs and to
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  Speaker 3: some extent on Tavia Wicks that you could count on.
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  Speaker 3: Now Wicks was up and down, you know, th out
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  Speaker 3: he probably felt like you should have got more targets.
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  Speaker 2: So the packers made their trade.
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  Speaker 3: But if I compare them to that like okay, yes,
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Golden's improvement and like Sabian Williams sky Moore, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure there, so maybe there has to
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  Speaker 3: be some level of prove it. But that is also
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  Speaker 3: based on the assumption now that Jayden Reed and Christian
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  Speaker 3: Watson should be healthy. So health is a big part
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  Speaker 3: of this, Billy. It's a cop on answer, it's not
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  Speaker 3: a great answer, but it's the reality of it. Whyatt's packed, Zach,
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  Speaker 3: Tom Tucker Craft staying healthy, Parsons and Watson, they have
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  Speaker 3: to stay healthy.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of prove it.
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  Speaker 3: But I feel like Jordan Morgan's a big one and
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  Speaker 3: I fel like it's an important position and I feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's the biggest room of improvement for the Packers.
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  Speaker 3: Is that part of the offensive line. I think he
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  Speaker 3: has to be good for the Packers to be as
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  Speaker 3: good as they want to be. Uh So that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: you know more about offensive lineman than me, but that's
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  Speaker 3: where i'd be looking.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to I want to stay with the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver thing because I agree with you that Romeo
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  Speaker 1: Dobbs was a better producer than a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: you got credit for mos catches.
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  Speaker 2: He ever had in a year was fifty.
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  Speaker 1: Nine, not a crazy number, not a high level of production,
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  Speaker 1: to the point where like you can't easily forecast the
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  Speaker 1: guy that was the twenty first overall pick to be
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  Speaker 1: able to outdo that in year number two, especially for
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  Speaker 1: the highlights that we did see already.
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  Speaker 2: From from Matthew Golden.
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  Speaker 1: Like that to me is actually a spot where I
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  Speaker 1: feel definitely confident in their internal improvement bringing them to
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  Speaker 1: a place where they're producing at an NFL level. The
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, i'd love to say is going to be
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  Speaker 1: somewhat fixed and instantly the group that it was in
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  Speaker 1: week like fifteen and sixteen, which is probably the best
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  Speaker 1: that they played throughout the year. But Zach Tom's a
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: big question mark, and if you're going to talk about health,
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  Speaker 1: he's He's one of the biggest question marks there. You
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: talk about three hundred pound guy coming back off of
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: Potel Attendon and that is not as cut and dry
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  Speaker 1: as clean, you know, one ligament maybe repair. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of ins and outs to that procedure and
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  Speaker 1: to that rehab. And the numbers were even more drastic
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  Speaker 1: and stark as to how different in offense they were
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  Speaker 1: and how much better he made Josh Jacobs and Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Love when he was on the field.
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  Speaker 2: So like I believe Morgan can be.
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  Speaker 1: An upgrade, I definitely think Aaron Banks has better football
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  Speaker 1: in him and played some better football at different points
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  Speaker 1: during the year. Then again, once your first assessment, first
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  Speaker 1: view of it is the Cleveland game, that's a tough
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  Speaker 1: that's tough film to watch. I thought he got better
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  Speaker 1: throughout the year and when he was healthier, was better.
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  Speaker 1: So you can make that left side of the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line better. You think you have something locked in with
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  Speaker 1: Sean Ryan. You just paid him for an extension. And
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  Speaker 1: on the right side, I think there's some questions with
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Belton if he's playing right tackle during some of
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: camp because Tom's not necessarily right ready to go out
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  Speaker 1: of the gates.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and in terms of the offensive line, I don't
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  Speaker 3: need it to be fantastic all time, but I also
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: needed to be the level of floor where they don't
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  Speaker 3: completely implode in certain games that cost you games. I
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  Speaker 3: mean the Browns once the first one comes to mind,
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  Speaker 3: but I would say like Eagles game and possibly Broncos
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  Speaker 3: and maybe Bears playoff game too.
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  Speaker 1: Brown dominated another one.
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  Speaker 2: I forget that.
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  Speaker 3: You just can't have those performances and be a consistent
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  Speaker 3: team that's consistently winning is just too hard because I
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  Speaker 3: think you have obviously the right town and Jordan Love
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  Speaker 3: he was one of the most efficient quarterbacks in the
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  Speaker 3: league last year, But when he when the pressure picks
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  Speaker 3: up and he's having to do the just obviously in
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  Speaker 3: the gates what he can do for you. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: if love can shoulder a big burden, have a bigger volume,
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  Speaker 3: remain efficient, that's great. But a lot of it has
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: to do with the offensive line, Billy, and it goes
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  Speaker 3: without saying for Josh Jacobs too. He was caught behind
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  Speaker 3: the line way too many times last year. It was
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: a lot of where's the Josh Jacobs production? A lot
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  Speaker 3: of that is his first contact was was too often
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  Speaker 3: behind the line, and all that flows back into the
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  Speaker 3: offensive line. So you have to have a level of
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  Speaker 3: production there as you know, and hope that the Packers
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  Speaker 3: can have those where they at least prevent themselves from
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  Speaker 3: totally imploding from certain in certain games, because there were
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  Speaker 3: too many where it felt like.
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  Speaker 1: That well and I mean, you get yourself behind the
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  Speaker 1: eight ball in certain ones of those games. But their
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: struggles to stay healthy were a factor of it, and
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  Speaker 1: also a little bit of the identity that you didn't
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: necessarily have throughout the year of were you more of
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: a running football team or did you want to air
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: the ball out like they had that problem of not
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: necessarily knowing the lane that you wanted to be in.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Do you throw the ball down the field at every
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: given chance? And when you're getting and seeing as much
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: you know, cloud coverage as they had, they had to
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: run the football better and they never were able to. Now,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: some of that was the health of Josh Jacobs and
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: the lack of somebody behind Jacobs to be a real
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: threat in the running back room. To add something to
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: that game, They're going to have to be able to
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: be better at that, And I wonder if some of
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: that also comes with being under center. Just to take
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: more Tommy and Stallis on the talking text line, Nixon's
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: a kicker turner who doesn't return kicks. He's a cornerback
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: three or four on most teams. Tommy, I don't know
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: where you get that statement, but it's probably not true.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: He was a starting cornerback production wise last year, even
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: though the way that he said it of I want
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: to be cornerback one rubbed so many people the wrong way.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I don't totally know why it did. Don't you want
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: your players to be extremely confident in their abilities and
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: tell you what they want to do and where they
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: want to be in that their goal is to get
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: better and improve, and that they want to be the
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: number one guy in their room. Like he got a
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: lot of slack for that, Arman, and I don't necessarily
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: know what the biggest issue was in the statement of
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: who's saying, I want to be the best guy in
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the room. I want to be the number one guy,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: and looking around, it doesn't look like there's anybody else there,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to be the guy.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be confident in your ability, He's somewhat,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: And whether or not he was saying that to convince
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: himself where he really believes it, I think some people
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: just felt like they just don't believe he's that guy
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: good to be that guy, And because of that, they're like, well,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: you just sound delusional.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if he is
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: or isn't.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: What matters is the confidence is important either way, So
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: what he does in the field is gonna happen either way.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: So I guess I wanted to believe he can make
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: plays when he goes out there to make them. Now
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: whether or not he's a cornerback one or two or
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: three or four. It's much like starting pitchers. People too
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: much assign these nebulous like numbers to them. Whether what
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: matters is how he plays in the field. And the
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: other thing, Billy is, you know he's defending the best
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: guys in the league all the time. I mean, there's
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: gonna be tough moments when you're playing against the most
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: talented receivers in the league. That's just the reality. I
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: thought he quit it. I thought he quitted himself very well.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I think, especially when Michael was healthy and the Packers
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: are getting pressure, obviously, it's a lot different. So no,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: it doesn't bother me that he said that. It doesn't
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: you gonna have confidence when you play. What matters more
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: to me is how you play in the field.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: So he didn't say.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: And the other thing, Billy is, you know he's defending
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the best guys in the league all the time. I mean,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: there's gonna be tough moments when you're playing. Again, it's
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the most talented receivers in the league. That's just the reality.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I thought he quit it. I thought he quitted himself
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: very well.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I think, especially when Michael was healthy and the Packers
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: are getting pressure. Obviously, it's it's a lot different. So no,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: it doesn't bother me that he said that. It doesn't.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: You gotta have confidence when you play. What matters more
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: to me is how you play in the field.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: So he didn't say he wanted to be number one guy.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: He said, cornerback number ones don't return kick guys a turd. Well,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: he's true, he's right, no number one court. He game
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: off of kick returns mostly like it just it's kind
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: of how it happens. That position is extremely important. However,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: it's generally for somebody that is not going to have
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: to play eighty percent of the snaps ninety percent of
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the snaps during a game eight seven seven seven ninety
• 17:43
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• 17:45
  Speaker 1: halftime report with our friend Scott Dolphin coming up on
• 17:48
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• 17:49
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• 17:55
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• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Two years ago. It's still the old school, and you
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: know there's only one seam.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: On that right one seam and the bottom of the
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: b is kind of thicker. Yeah, it's a different shirt.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like a you know, a baseball undershirt
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: that you know, the players still wear these, the three
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: quarters every quarter the baseball shirts.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: The baseball shirts don't anymore solid color sleeves, David.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: They might still say, I think there's plenty of guy
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: who's still rocking that.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well David, David wear them, but the sleeves would
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: just be too short, long arm.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so like the three quarter sleeves from me are
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: like half sleeps right like they'll go to like just
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: right about the elbow.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I remember having one of those shirts once and because
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: like baseball players wear them, and I'd be like, I'm
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: gonna be cool, I'm gonna I'm gonna be a real
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: baseball It was so annoying to me to have this
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: like under my elbow half sleeve going on.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Like some of my closet I don't really have any anymore.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: When I played high school baseball and junior college baseball,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: were required was part.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Of the uniform. Yeah, for sure, you had to wear this,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and they had to kind of you know out there.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Like stirrups almost like stirrups were a standard part of
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: a uniform.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: They were was in a little league, and now they
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: just don't exist.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I had a coach that was so buttoned up when
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: it came to looking good, h and our you know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: you had to wear your the stirrups had to be visible.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: You had to be able to wear your pants had
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: to be like to the middle of the shin so
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: you could see not only the stirrup, but the sanitary hose.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Which is that white sock you wore over god call yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: oh yeah. There was no wig long old nineteen eighties
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: sweat socks. Man, you had to wear that sanitary hose,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: that solid white.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I like the coach at standards, he said, fellows, we're
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be looking good. We might not be playing good
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: right out of the gates, but we are going to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: be looking the best.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: We were like the sorry that was the old John
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Wooden thing.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: The first day of practice at UCLA, you had learned
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: how to put your socks on right.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it's like the NFL today. We had
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: to wear we had we had the Yankee rull the
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: hair couldn't touch the collar. We also had Oakland a shoes.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: We wore white Puma cleats everywhile. It wasn't like you
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: just wore your own cleats. We all wore white shoes
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: and they better be polished on game day or you
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: weren't playing polish.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Well, that was is kind of funny because your play
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: in baseball.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Get in.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I guess you're right, Billy, And that's that's about a
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: program standard, right, the.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: First win, we can get clean up them shoes before
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: we get in this, before we get into that dugout.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Come on, now, all right, let's let's let's set some
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: standards here. I like that deal from coach.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: As a high school guy, I kind of rolled my
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: eyes at it. But you know, when I got to
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: college and we were black cleats, I missed wearing the
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: white ones.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I also think that there's a there's a beautiful part
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of like a freshman or JV baseball coach where they
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: will be about as old school.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Stickler as possible.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Now maybe that's starting to age out a tick, but
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I still remember our freshman baseball coach was the guy
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: that said home runs not a good at bat opposite field. Still,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: those hit it to the opposite field, that's what we're
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: wanting to see. You hit the ball over the fence
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and your pulling it. That's not what we're looking for.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Trust me, those guys are out there still. They're all
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: on Twitter, they're all out there. They're still talking to
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: me about how bunting is the best and this and
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: that and here we go. So trust me, those guys
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: are still out there, Billy. Yeah, we need a slap
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: at the right opposite field. Forget slugging and forget launch
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: agle and analytics and all that.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: I remember seeing one a couple of years ago where
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: he's like, oh, like rate this guy's swing, Like, how
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: do you think his setup is? And this guy's critiquing
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: the whole thing about how bad it is, how it
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: needs to change it up, and it's it's legit prime
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Mike Trout in the banning cage, and it's just kind
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: of like, wait, you're saying, Mike Trout's not gonna make
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: it anywhere as a hitter with this approach.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, sure, I don't see. I don't see it working
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: out for him very much. I don't think it's I
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: don't think that one's gonna play.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I remember, right, our freshman games were on Saturday morning,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: and most of those coaches were so hungover. You just
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: hope they showed up nine o'clock on a Saturday morning.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Freshman was like right after school, like four o'clock. You
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: had to be on that bus immediately after because at
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: some point we're gonna have to play a game after
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you guys, and if this thing starts going long, let's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: just cut that bad way sex all right, I know
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: we're gonna play seven much.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Oh so it's like spring training. You could end up
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: in a four all time. Get this thing over here, Well,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: we need to be.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: We need to be playing the big boys because in
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: all reality, now that they're play and springball, we only
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have so many days.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: That the state of Wisconsin to play these games. We're
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: gonna play it.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: It's Wisconsin Springball now, which is like, yeah, there's no
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: more summers winter anymore.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: My son played high school baseball. Man, I froze my
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: butt off for four straight years.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh bro, if.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: The wind was coming in off Lake Michigan, forget about brutal,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: brutal from March.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: The best part about summer ball was just like knowing that, Well,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: one the bad thing was you had to get up
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in the morning for practice, right because it was gonna
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: be at nine am. We're gonna have to get you
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to the high school at nine am. However, then your
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: whole then you just had a whole.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Cause it summer va case you have to go to school.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: It's like it's amazing.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: It's like you're one chance to not be a student
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: athlete and just to be an athlete, right and just
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: to like just to play and you know, enjoy yourself.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Growing up in Iowa, which where they still have summer baseball,
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: by the way, it was it was exciting that that
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: you know, you'd have you'd actually have crowds of people
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: that weren't your parents come watch you play because it
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: was a beautiful night in your hometown to go watch
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: some high school baseball under the lights. Whereas you know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: so you did have lights. Oh we all had like Okay,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: you know it's Iowa, there's not a lot.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I was, well, I didn't know it was joker, an
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: old guy joke.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: No. I thought it was more of like a Cubs
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to Iowa Cubs. I didn't know if they did the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: same thing where they're like, hey, we're playing all these
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: games by daylight.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: That's what we're doing here.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: In fact, there's a line in Field of Dreams, Drew
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Olsen's favorite movie where they say, you know, every town
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: has a team as semi pro baseball. That still exists
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: to this day across Iowa where they have hometown tournaments
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: and towns play each other and there's robberies.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of gay.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: They still play an American Legion ball too.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I heard someone make the reference to like
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: this guy is gonna be good. It gets through American Legion,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and like American Legion, what is this nineteen fifty two.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: American Legion still has a national championship and I think
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: it's played in the Carolinas or Virginia every year big time.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Americans.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Playing like they're still bringing up real at Legion ballad
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: of like an all star team of your high school.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Your best high school players try out and make your
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: your local American Legion team, and it's usually like where
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I grew up, it's like the whole county they picked
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: the best player.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Well, that was a big way players got found way
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: way back in the Golden age.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Obviously two years army. Yeah, wow, Austin are wearing that red,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: white and blue uniform.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Man, this is cool. This is new I never made
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: a team. Okay, so this is all new. I didn't
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: play a team in high school. I did show up
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: before you.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Quick to tonk on legion ball in the back though
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: last week, who was playing legion?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I just thought I was doing that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I thought for real, like maybe for I thought it
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: was a thing of our path. Yeah, trust me, I
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: love those institutions in our country that still exists.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: There was a progression arm and you went.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: You went from little league to uh, Pony League or
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Babe Ruth yeah, or Pony League and then uh and
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: then there was high school in American legion ball.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Yeah, that's great. I'm glad.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I'm glad we're still doing those type of things. I'm
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: glad people are still playing and doing that. That's great
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: because all I know of from like Wisconsin is that
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: we've had a lot of really good MLB prospects and
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: d one all these things. Guys gotten drafted from the
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: state now, but a lot didn't even play.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: High school based you're right now, a lot of them
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: are going on to play in you know, elite touring
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: leagues and stuff like that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Although although but that's the way it is.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Though the names, the guys I can think of in
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: the major leagues right now, they played high school baseball.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: There's a number of guys that did.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: The young man that just made his debut from Toma,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he played, he played all high school baseball.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Who was with the Dodgers and then was in Devin Lux.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Kevin Lux played high school baseball right at Was it
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: one of the Kenosha Indian Trail?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Now? I know kel Nick did not.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Kell Nick played mostly travel ball from Waukeshaw Wash. But
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: what about Drake Baldwin. Was he more of a travel
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: scene kind of guy? Because he I mean, that's one
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of the better stories of a prospect rolling through. He
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: was having a phenomenal I knew that's where I went
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to school. I didn't necessarily know that if he played
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: as much of the high school scene there or if
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: he was more travel ball, because he is a phenomenal player.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: He's in like three fifteen right now again following up
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: his big year last year as a rookie.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: He was the kid with the Royals. The pitcher came
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: out of Milwaukee. Uh Ronald Reagan high School. Really good picture,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: phenomenal in high school. I remember they beat Arrowhead, who
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: had like six Division one prospects.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: He mowed him down. I think he won hit him
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: in the state tournament. There's uh, there's not much better
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: than the boom. Thank you, there we go. That's what
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about there.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: There's not much better than the the boom in prospects
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in the state. Like we just had Donovan Davis last
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: night basketball Wise first Star Recruit Committee.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: He's going to Iowa State. Yeah's disclosure. I had to
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: look up to see where Freedom, Wisconsin is. I apologize
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: if you're listening in Freedom today. It's a town of
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: six thousand people, right, and they've got a brand new
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Quick Trip.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I mean like almost ripped off the ripped off the
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: lot brand quick Trip.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: It was phenomenal one. I christened that thing up. So
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: there you go there, and we talked about a lot.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: There's that pipeline from Wisconsin to Iowa. Another one, another one.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy how many uh they did? One prospects
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: they missed.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: From West Allis Central's going there too.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, you Sep Gray I think is his name, right,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: So think about it. Otza Burger has gotten Tyree's Hunter
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Milinovich Mama Memoriam.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Was Haliburton. His yeah, I think that was his first year.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I believe that would have been TJ's first guy. I'm
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: not one thousand percent positive, but I think Tyreee was
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: one of the first guys to make that transition over
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and uh, they got it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: They got it rolling over there they do. You know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the Livan's going to the NBA, right, I think I
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: saw that he was.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Uh he's yeah, he's He did the both NBA draft
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: process and the transfer portal.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you mentioned that golf because uh I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: had that run in yesterday. All of a sudden, I'm
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: looking at this because the Bucks are into the draft
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: lot right now. So now we actually have to know
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like the NBA combine. There's an NBA draft combine. It's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: been a while worry about that. And they played like
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: three on three. They go through like the whole combine deal.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Not nearly the situation in the NFL and indye, but uh,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: they go through it. So I'm trying to read up
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: on all these you know, prospects. There's you have a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: little background. Number two guy in the Big Tens, John
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: John Blackwell, Well, first off, get that Big ten out
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of here, all right, Let's take that big ten tag
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: off of here now. But I was kind of in
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a question of that leaves his new team, Duke in
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: kind of a weird situation, doesn't it like you go
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: in here, I'm gonna grab this guy in the portal
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: who's one of the top candidates. Oh, by the way,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: in a month and a half, he could say, by
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm gonna go to the NBA so kick.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: If it was anybody else, i'd say, yeah, they'd be
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: in alerg But Duke. They don't care.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: If Duke good for somebody that's not gonna hurt them.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Did you hear the rumors of his money in the portal?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I heard four five, But that's the thing. It's all rumors, right,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: That's the thing. We really don't know most west Yeah,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: we don't know, you know.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Have somebody saying it though there's pretty good, pretty good information, Billy.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I would say the rumors on a lot of the
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: number are a lot closer to reality than you would probably.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say it in this way too. And
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: it's used I don't want even want to think this one.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: It's also using this as an excuse. I saw the
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: conversation about Donovan Davis committing and why i Alway States
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: had this big time you know pull and this like
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: batters haven't gotten these guys, and it's like, well, let's
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: talk sell like it is. They're just paying more money
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: and that's why he's getting him. It's not because he's
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: the worse. Well, we don't know that. We don't know
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: whether they have more or the less money to give
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: than Greg Gard has to give. That those are things
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: we just don't know, and therefore some people were able
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: to use as an excuse because it's not out there,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I also think, I mean, the Iowa State one's fascinating
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: because I think their AD came out a couple of
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: years ago. It's like, hey, by the way, we're are
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: sporting our athletic departments out of money. We're taking money
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: from the academic side to be able to fund the athletics,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily what you all are hoping it is.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Well, obviously that program has gone through some major struggles
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: over the last twelve months, right, I mean they lost
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: almost their entire football what they lost fifty three players
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: from their football roster. They lost pretty much the women's
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: basketball team in the portal, so yeah, he's got his
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: work cut off from Jamie Pollard Wisconsin, the Wisconsin associate
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: athletic director before he took the job at Iowa State.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: There's many people hoping maybe we bring Jamie Pollard back in.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: He's done a hell of a job in names.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I mean bringing in Matt Campbell and bringing in tj Otzilberger.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've they've been winners.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: The Campbell the Campbell hired Dolf, you'd be able to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: say it even more. He's he was one of the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: more successful guys in the sport for what they had
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: to do and who they were playing with.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: He was always going to be one of the.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: Factors that program has sucked since Wade think I shot.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I think the last time they want a conference was
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: like nineteen twelve. That's wid Iowa State has been football.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: That's crazy here. The Clones, the Cyclones were playing football
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: back in nineteen twelve. Oh yeah, I mean talk about
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you know, listen, that's.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: For gretty teams. Those pre World War One teams were
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: gritty bunch.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: That wasn't even the Big Eight. That was pre Big Eight.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what the conference was called back they.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Called themselves the original.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: It is crazy to think about the all that's changed
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: though in the world and in college sports and athletics
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: in the country, and to think that they were so
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: playing college fotball back then.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: It's pretty impressive. I don't know what it looks like.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: But the other thing really quick.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna mention about, yeah, a lot of it about
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the recruiting is you know, we used to at least
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: and I'm a Marquete fan obviously, so we used to
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: put so much stock into like the prospects and the
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: recruiting battles and stuff, and so much energy and debt
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and and resources.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Into hoping these guys would go there.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: But the stake seemed lower now too, for the high
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: school prospects as a fan, because you know that they're
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: highly likely to transfer right away anyway. The portal existence
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: is like, Okay, he committed the Iowa State, but I'm like, hey,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: he might come up. He might come around next year
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: or the year after that, anyway, so what's gonna happen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: It doesn't guarantee anything anyway. It seems like most of
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: the time you.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Just get that little flicker of excitement army, oh.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Sure, and then you're like Okay, next year is gonna beat.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: The recruiting has to start all over on this.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I did it when there was a guy Sheet Pierce
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and that committed to Marquette. It was a huge rankor
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I was very excited. Never played a minute for Marquette
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: and transfer.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: No, like Melvin Gordon at Iowa. It's just what it is.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what it is. Great poll, what
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a great poll. I remember nobody remembers that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Living in Milwaukee, I'm like, oh, this kid, yeah, this
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: kid could play man Melvin Gordon and he committed to
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: the Hawkeyes and never played a minute.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: And also the luckily came right over here Ley, Yes
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: we had that four. Oh.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Also the importance of being in the right system. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: mean that's another thing too. Guys can flourish in different places. Sure, absolutely,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Still one of the best ones is Melvin Gordon.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: If you tell, if you say to some people that
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: watched that Bradford team, he might not even been the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: best running back on that team. That Vonte Jackson, who
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: also was committed to the Badgers, was a problem. He
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: ended up sadly getting hurt before I think even got
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: to Wiscon.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Who was the defensive back from Michigan State and then
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: was the number one or number two.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Pick from Trey Wayne Trey Wayne two.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: And didn't they lose the championship game or did they
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: win it all?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a great question. Did they play Waukeshaw West
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: or I believe they lost the title game? Somebody on
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the talking text line is going to be able to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: correct us on that is that. I think that would
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: have been before. I think that would have been before
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the Joe Shober Washershaw West.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm not a positive.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: It's got to be right in the line because they
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: were all at Madison around the same time. Also could
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: have been the Vince Beagle washing Wisconsin Rapids team. You
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: want to talk about it? Do that was a problem
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: in high school? Vince Beagle was a freaking problem too
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: about it?
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Kenosha Bradford lost his senior year in the state semi
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: finals to Waukeshaw West.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Where we go West, the Joe Show, Good Joe, well done?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Before we let you go Dolf Ted Turner. You want
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to talk about a life lived in entertainment? Uh, maybe
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: one of the most important folks in entertainment.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Is still referenced in any wrestling documentary that you see
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: talking about w c W.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But my god, the guy was like a fictional character.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: He bought the Braves and Hawks, he won the America's
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Cup Sailing race, was on the cover of Sports Zolster.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I still remember that cover. I'm like, who's Ted Turner.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Then you'd see him at Braves playoff game with Jane
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Fonda on his arm, like a decade and.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: A visionary, Like he made a whole half of the
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: country Brace fans because of the superstation, and and g
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: N was the other way with the Cubs obviously.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: So those Brace fans were those Braves teams were just okay,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: you know in the early days, and they got good. Yeah,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Dale Murphy was was I wanted to wear his number, man,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: because because we got Braves games in our home.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Every night that we want.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: We take for granted that we can see live sports
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: now and ever we want, but once upon a time
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you just couldn't do that that there was a game.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: That's what.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing with the Cubs, and and WGM
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: is like, well they're gonna be on TV.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch this game, you know, NBS T, n T,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: True TV. Those were all Turner Turner classic movies which
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I still watch, all named after Ted Turner.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And it's a remarkable, remarkable lifelift entertained. Done good, Ted, Congratulations,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: absolute rest easy, buddy, uh Dolf. You have one more
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: day to be able to enjoy our conversation with you,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: sans Drew. But we appreciate every single day you roll
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in here. Even after a third consecutive cubs walk off.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: We have to figure out a way to slow down that,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that punch down.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: That it's what we five weeks into the citason they're
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: gonna cub.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Cubs are gonna cub. Okay, it's gonna happen. That's what
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: we needn't keep.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Like that, like last night was ridiculous. Come on, that's
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: not gonna they can't continue that.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: You do think like, okay, maybe they peaked early here,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: maybe they're gonna start having a downturn, Like is this
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Are they just gonna win one hundred and ten games?
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not worried about that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: No, look at look at a lot of Craig Council
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: teams that started fast. There are a lot of Craig
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Council teams that may have started fast, and faded towards
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the end. So we'll see hopefully that rolls in through again.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Dolf always be worried about the Yankees and coming to town.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Although they lost last night, they've been read hot to
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: best record in the American leaguers.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Judge, you have fifteen bombs something like that.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: We already know they're good though, you know that's just
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the way it is. The Yankees will be good. All
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be an awesome weekend at the park.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: And they're getting more pitching back too.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still gonna get care of Coleback h insane
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