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Cam Robinson on lessons learned, reflection on career | The O-Zone Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit
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Speaker 1: Junior with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome
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Speaker 1: to this week's Ozone podcast. And uh, you know, I
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Speaker 1: say every week I'm excited about the guest, because I
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Speaker 1: usually am. I'm really excited about this and I've been
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Speaker 1: waiting for Cam Robinson to come into the Ozone Podcast
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Speaker 1: for a while. I know he doesn't love media types,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't love interviews. He's a private guy. So Cam,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this very much. No, no problem
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Speaker 1: a reading that right? Would you rather not see a
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Speaker 1: camera ever in your life? In your face? I'm just, um,
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Speaker 1: it's not that I would. I would. It's not that
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Speaker 1: I would rather not see I'm just kind of more
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Speaker 1: it's kind of more reserve and more to myself. Just
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Speaker 1: like you said, it's a little bit more private. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm go doing media for a long time just because
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Speaker 1: she kind of comes with us. So I'm very like,
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Speaker 1: I'm used to it and i know how to do it.
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Speaker 1: I'm good with it, but me personally is preferred to
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Speaker 1: be kind of Yeah, that's it. I appreciate you doing
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Speaker 1: this because coming in here for ten twelve minutes. Uh,
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Speaker 1: it's much appreciated on my end. No, no worries. Six
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Speaker 1: year veteran camera Robinson going by fast It flies man, Um,
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Speaker 1: I think about that. It's crazy because I think about
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Speaker 1: it almost every day. Um. And it was so it
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Speaker 1: was so weird. It was so funny because I remember
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Speaker 1: being in when I was like just for instance, like
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Speaker 1: when I was in college and I was in Alabama.
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Speaker 1: Used to be like a man, I'm ready, Like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for like the next step, Like that's if
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Of course, I enjoyed my time
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Speaker 1: and it was fun, especially fun playing the type of
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Speaker 1: ball we played. But I think the older I get you. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm just learning, like just to be more in the moment,
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Speaker 1: just kind of enjoyed the moment more because it's just
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Speaker 1: like you talked about, the years flies, So just kind
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Speaker 1: of being in the moment, kind of being where your
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Speaker 1: feet are and just kind of embracing um, just kind
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Speaker 1: of embracing where you are at at the at the
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Speaker 1: EZAC moment. It's called growing up. You feel like a
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Speaker 1: veteran now, I mean, do you feel like a vetter? Absolutely? Um,
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Speaker 1: My body feels like um. Mentally, I feel like a veteran.
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Speaker 1: The game has slowing down for me so much. Um,
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Speaker 1: I feel like there's nothing I haven't seen before. Um.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, mentally and physically both. I feel like a or.
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Speaker 1: But when talking to coaches about you over the years,
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Speaker 1: there's an element of you that is a big kid,
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Speaker 1: meaning you enjoy the game. You can see it when
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Speaker 1: you're miked up, you can see it. Um. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: a silly question, but I've been around football players who
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Speaker 1: didn't sinse love the game. It seems like you love
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Speaker 1: every minute of it absolutely. Um. I think that's kind
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Speaker 1: of where it kind of where like everyone has those
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Speaker 1: days where you get up and it's kind of like
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Speaker 1: like this maybe heard, No, that's been me heard. The Mentally,
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Speaker 1: you gotta might gotta get yourself going a little more,
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Speaker 1: but just kind of try to lock in on big
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Speaker 1: picture and how much, just like you said, how much
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Speaker 1: I do genuinely enjoy playing football. Um, it's just it's
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Speaker 1: been my it's been my love has been the only
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Speaker 1: thing I've probably one of the few things I've loved
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Speaker 1: is just just being a kid. So like on Sundays,
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Speaker 1: I genuinely have a good time playing games. So i'm I'm, I'm,
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Speaker 1: I'm always excited now as a six year veteran. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you've seen some stuff around here. Absolutely, Um, how much
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Speaker 1: are you enjoying It feels like a corner is being turned.
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Speaker 1: How much are you enjoying this process of sort of
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Speaker 1: being a part of it as it starts to ascend.
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Speaker 1: It's been, it's genuinely been fun just coming in, um so,
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Speaker 1: just having an amount of success we had in college
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Speaker 1: and then coming in my first year and two thousand
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Speaker 1: and seven, seeing and going immediately to AFC Championship. It's
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Speaker 1: kind of it kind of it spoils you. You think
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Speaker 1: that that's just what football is. But um, one thing
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Speaker 1: in this game and this legal do is it will
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Speaker 1: humble you quit and they'll teach you a lot of lessons,
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Speaker 1: a lot of life lessons as well. So you just
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Speaker 1: kind of learned how to when you when you get through,
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Speaker 1: each season is its own like nothing carries over. Each
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Speaker 1: season is its own season. Um, So you kind of
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Speaker 1: learned to when you get these type of teams, when
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Speaker 1: you get these type of seasons, you kind of learned
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Speaker 1: to just um embrace the more and you kind of
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Speaker 1: just just love them more and the longer year that
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Speaker 1: you learn to not take those for granted because you
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Speaker 1: never know they come few and far in between. No,
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Speaker 1: it's funny the way you described it, and I asked
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Speaker 1: the question the same way, uh five and eight. But
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Speaker 1: it still feels like a turnaround. And it's felt like
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Speaker 1: that all season in a way, even when you guys
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Speaker 1: were struggling a little bit. What is it about this
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Speaker 1: bunch these players that have sort of made that a
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Speaker 1: season long belief even when it didn't look like it
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Speaker 1: if you follow me, Um, I think it's just the
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Speaker 1: the type of guys we got in the locker room. Um,
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Speaker 1: the guys and the people in the front office have
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Speaker 1: done a great job of just putting good people in
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Speaker 1: the locker room as well as good football players of course,
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Speaker 1: but good people. So I mean, when things when things
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Speaker 1: aren't going the way you when things aren't going the
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Speaker 1: way that you would like them to it the way
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Speaker 1: that you expected they would, you gotta have the type
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Speaker 1: of guys that's just gonna put their head down and
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Speaker 1: just keep working until until you're able to turn the corner,
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Speaker 1: until you're able to kind of get it fixed. So, um,
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Speaker 1: I just think we got the right we got the
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Speaker 1: right type of players in the locker room, the kind
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Speaker 1: of put that in the fruition. When did you know
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Speaker 1: or feel it was going to be different? That's all season?
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Speaker 1: Was it? When Doug walked in? Was that you know?
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Speaker 1: Was there a moment? I think definitely, just the whole
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Speaker 1: vibe of course, um, But but I honestly didn't. I
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Speaker 1: honestly didn't know, just because I mean, honestly, just the
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Speaker 1: amount of stuff that that that that's going on. Um,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been tough, but wait and See attitude
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Speaker 1: is understandable. Yeah, I'm just kind of I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I like the way that sounds, but I mean
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Speaker 1: that's kind of almost wait and See. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I like the way that sounds, but but I mean, honestly,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of some of that. Of course,
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Speaker 1: you put your head down and you grind and you
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Speaker 1: you do everything, um that you need to do for
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Speaker 1: preparing for the upcoming season, but you never know until
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Speaker 1: you know. So, UM, yeah, I don't like the way
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Speaker 1: you wait and see sounds, but honestly, it's probably it's
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Speaker 1: it's honestly a little bit of that. I just meant
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Speaker 1: when the head coach is coming in, you hear great things,
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Speaker 1: but until it's there, until you're in it, after what
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Speaker 1: you've been through to perfectly logical, if you're like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: i'm gonna I'm gonna work, I'm not going to trust
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Speaker 1: until it's there. That makes sense to tell me about
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Speaker 1: the difference between what people think they know about what
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Speaker 1: you do and what they actually know about what you do.
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Speaker 1: Meaning when you hear criticism of a Came Robinson left tackle, um,
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Speaker 1: I love asking left tackles. I mean, I think there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that kind of I think they
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Speaker 1: know the game, and I don't want to because they
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Speaker 1: probably do know the game. But it's so much when
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Speaker 1: it when it comes to our position is in particular
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Speaker 1: just offensive line player, is so much other stuff that
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Speaker 1: goes into it, and there's so much other stuff that
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Speaker 1: it consists of that people have no idea about. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's always gonna be like casuals, and they
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Speaker 1: probably do casually know the game. Touchdown, first down, fall,
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Speaker 1: start holding, like that's of stuff. But there's only a
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Speaker 1: small minute group of people that actually knows football and
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Speaker 1: like actually knows they came and actually knows what they're
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Speaker 1: talking about if we just being honest. So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's always gonna be that type of stuff, though. Are
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Speaker 1: you better at grasping that than you were when you
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Speaker 1: were a rookie? Absolutely? And you learn and I think
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Speaker 1: this honestly just comes with age. You learn not to care, um,
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Speaker 1: when you're when you're older. I mean, when you're younger,
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Speaker 1: I think it's so important to you what people think
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Speaker 1: about you and how people feel about you. But I
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Speaker 1: think the older you get, just maturity, you learn that.
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Speaker 1: I was watching this Lebron and if you when you said,
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Speaker 1: you gotta just learn to not give and I can't
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Speaker 1: really say it, but you gotta learn to not care.
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Speaker 1: You gotta learn to not care what nobody thinks. Um,
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Speaker 1: And that's been I mean I think that will be you.
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Speaker 1: I think that's huge for any athlete just in general. Um,
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Speaker 1: just be confident in yourself confidence, your abilities, and definitely
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Speaker 1: you can't worry about if they're not in the kind
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Speaker 1: of like in the Foxhole with you, they're the Indians,
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Speaker 1: the the tweets, whatever, whatever it is. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: gotta let like it. And it is It's not easy
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Speaker 1: because I think that's kind of human nature to care
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Speaker 1: about what people think about you, how people feel about you,
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Speaker 1: but I mean you you genuinely have to not care.
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Speaker 1: And in the social media age, it's almost impossible. I
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Speaker 1: covered back in the day, well there were a couple
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Speaker 1: of TV stations in a newspaper who were weighing in,
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Speaker 1: but he wasn't hearing it from the entire Twitter verse
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Speaker 1: everybody and everybody's somebody on Twitter. So it's just I mean,
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Speaker 1: she kind of just gotta learn how to balance that,
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Speaker 1: kind of learn how to deal with that. Once, I
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Speaker 1: feel like, and once you do a good job of
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Speaker 1: mastering that and kind of learning how to deal with that,
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Speaker 1: that's so that's when you start to that's when your
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Speaker 1: game starts to take steps mentally right because you know
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Speaker 1: that And something told me once, and I think most
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen lived by this. You can have sixty five
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Speaker 1: great plays and of one bad one and you're the
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Speaker 1: way for defensive And they always say defensive end probably
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Speaker 1: the only position you can lose like eighty five percent
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Speaker 1: of your reps and be considered like a good players
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Speaker 1: wicked when you think about it, but people don't think
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Speaker 1: about it. So I'm sure they've been games for you,
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Speaker 1: I feel like you played great, and then there's one point. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, and what you gotta learn to do is
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Speaker 1: know that you play great. I mean, one player can't,
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Speaker 1: like it's football, one play cannot dictate the way that
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Speaker 1: the game like has gone for an individual. Um. The
9:34
Speaker 1: good players learn how to kind of just like let
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Speaker 1: their roll off their back and just kind of keep
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Speaker 1: it moving like that's gonna happen. Um. Just speaking from oppositie,
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Speaker 1: my position is in particularly play offensive line, the quarterback
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Speaker 1: has thirty five something like that attempts you drop back
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Speaker 1: thirty times, like no one's going to be thirty for me,
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Speaker 1: or if you are thirty for thirty and those are
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Speaker 1: But if you lose a rep or if you lose
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Speaker 1: like like, it's not it's not the end of the world.
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Speaker 1: People probably make it trying to see him like you're
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Speaker 1: staying there, but it's it's it's fine. Is that where
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Speaker 1: you're probably I mean from year one to now, is
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Speaker 1: it mentally where you're a better player or absolutely not?
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Speaker 1: Like mentally it's just like just a night and day. Um.
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Speaker 1: And I would always just just always talk to like
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Speaker 1: when I was younger, just trying to talk to like
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Speaker 1: older players and try to just take like little bits
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Speaker 1: and pieces from how they what they do mentally or
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Speaker 1: how they mentally prepare. Um just weekend and week out,
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Speaker 1: but mentally is easily, UM, probably where my game is
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Speaker 1: taken up the biggest jump, because physically I've always been
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Speaker 1: um just guy giving and stuff and the things that
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Speaker 1: I can do, but just always try to keep those
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Speaker 1: skills short. But physically it's easily where my game has
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Speaker 1: grown the most. Asked about a few guys, I mentioned Doug.
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Speaker 1: What is he met around here? Peterson? Um, I think
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Speaker 1: he's just brought. He's brought genuine. I think leadership um
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Speaker 1: like a true leader of men, um, like a true
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Speaker 1: true professional and UM, I think that was So that's
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Speaker 1: that was That's just been huge for us just because
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Speaker 1: well we've probably gotten a little older this year, but
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Speaker 1: we had a really young team just always have had
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Speaker 1: like a really young team, so kind of kind of
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Speaker 1: having someone that can just like I said, lead and
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Speaker 1: lead the right way and just be um, just be
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Speaker 1: a leader of men. Man. Just know that that's someone
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Speaker 1: that you can follow and you know that that someone
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Speaker 1: who's doing it the right way. UM, That's that's huge
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Speaker 1: for a locker room. Trevor stud Trevis stud Man. Just
11:37
Speaker 1: even when I remember talking to Trent this past um
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Speaker 1: the off season before this season started, and we were
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Speaker 1: just talking about trev and man, just he asked me
11:45
Speaker 1: the same things, like what you I just told him,
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Speaker 1: like like I don't, I don't know any other way
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Speaker 1: to describe him. He's he's he's one of those He's
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Speaker 1: Trevor's gonna be real good in this lady for a
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Speaker 1: long time. Man, he's just started to was so scary
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Speaker 1: and what's so fun to watch just from my few points,
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Speaker 1: it's just he's just now starting to like scratch the
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Speaker 1: service and he's just now starting to tap into what
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Speaker 1: he's going to be, because he's going to be when
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Speaker 1: people when when the when the great quarterbacks in his league.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned he's I think he's on his way to
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Speaker 1: not trying to push too much or just trying to
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Speaker 1: but I definitely think he's on his way to being.
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Speaker 1: In that conversation as a player, and most people who
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Speaker 1: listen to this have never played at this level, but ah,
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Speaker 1: what does it mean? You're a very very good player
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Speaker 1: at a high level, but what does it Due to
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Speaker 1: the confidence of guys around him. When you know the
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Speaker 1: quarterback position is there, can you describe that's it just
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Speaker 1: brings up to me. It almost brings a sense of
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Speaker 1: like calm to the situation. You know, nothing's too nothing's
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Speaker 1: gonna be too big for him. No situation is gonna
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Speaker 1: be too much for him. He keeps us, he keeps
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Speaker 1: everyone in the other level. Ended we know he's not
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Speaker 1: like me. It's been games this year where we're down,
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Speaker 1: lating the fourth, we need a drive to go win
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Speaker 1: the game, and he's he told us what we were
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Speaker 1: gonna do. We went right down the field and did it.
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Speaker 1: It's just for a second year guy, that's impressive. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely so Um, just like I said, man, I
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Speaker 1: can't never like I can never. I can't talk about
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Speaker 1: Trevor enough now, will you? I'll be talking all night?
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Speaker 1: So um yeah, Man, Trevor's just a stud and he's
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Speaker 1: he's he's he's on his way and he's he's a
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Speaker 1: great player. He's still young, he's still growing, He's still
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Speaker 1: gonna be crowing pains. But that's that's natural as football. Phil.
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Speaker 1: I love Field, Um, one of my favorite offensive line
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Speaker 1: coaches I've ever, I've ever played for. UM, I think
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Speaker 1: what field does a really good job. Of of course
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Speaker 1: he leaves us, and of course he gives us um
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Speaker 1: boundaries of of which which way things can be done.
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Speaker 1: But I think what field doesn't showing you different ways
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Speaker 1: to get the job done and just letting you use
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Speaker 1: whichever way it works best for you. UM. Some some
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Speaker 1: offensive line coaches I know, just know around the league.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like their way or the highway, like
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do it this way, You're not fields just
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Speaker 1: always block them, like I'm gonna show you how to
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Speaker 1: how to be most efficient. I'm gonna tell you how
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Speaker 1: to get your job done, um in the best way possible,
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Speaker 1: but whatever works for yourself. Like we're gonna sharpen those
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Speaker 1: twos and we're gonna just get you better at what
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Speaker 1: you're good at. And we're just gonna just gonna block them.
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Speaker 1: And this is not you know, to discuss anybody you've
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Speaker 1: played for before. But why is offensive line coaching so important?
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Speaker 1: And it's coaching, it's important everywhere, but it seems like
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Speaker 1: that position the coach can make a huge difference. UM.
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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering why. I think it's just because I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's it's more groups than than I think. It's just
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Speaker 1: because the offensive line all five have to be on
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Speaker 1: the same page. And I know there's more. It's probably
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Speaker 1: like that with the dB should like to say in
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Speaker 1: the corner's got to be on the same page, and
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and receivers. But yeah, like all of us we
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Speaker 1: literally make we're almost like all five of us literally
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Speaker 1: make like one person. So four four people on the
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Speaker 1: offensive line can block something perfect and if if it's
15:17
Speaker 1: like a left the left oie of the love card element,
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Speaker 1: like just regardless of position, one person doesn't do it
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Speaker 1: right or doesn't didn't get the didn't maybe miss the call,
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Speaker 1: or maybe hurt their own direction of the player, like
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Speaker 1: the place, it's a no go. Um. So I think
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Speaker 1: that just knowing that all five of us have to
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Speaker 1: work is one and that's it's cliche you here all
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Speaker 1: the time, but it's there's no other way you can
15:38
Speaker 1: put it. It's just it is what it is. All
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Speaker 1: five of us have to be on the same page.
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Speaker 1: And I think he just I think he does a
15:43
Speaker 1: good job of um. I think he does a good
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Speaker 1: job of helping us with that and also does a
15:48
Speaker 1: good job of letting the leaders in the room kind
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Speaker 1: of lead the room. And I haven't talked to you
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Speaker 1: enough to know the answer to this, but it feels
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Speaker 1: like you're in a good place and terms of football,
16:01
Speaker 1: he was happy right now playing as you've been in
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Speaker 1: a while. Um, under me, I'm as happy as I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm always. No person is like it's always good days.
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Speaker 1: That's I don't even know if that's realistic, but I'm
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Speaker 1: as happy as I've been in a long time playing
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Speaker 1: the game of football. Um. We were talking last Saturday.
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Speaker 1: I was talking with some teammates and I was just like, man,
16:18
Speaker 1: it guys, like it gets rough like that, like the losing,
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Speaker 1: all the losing and worries on you, especially when you're
16:24
Speaker 1: not like you're not used to it. You didn't you know,
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Speaker 1: you've never really it's never really been like that. You
16:30
Speaker 1: can kind of start to chip away and how you
16:32
Speaker 1: feel about the game, and you kind of that's like
16:34
Speaker 1: a constant battle. You kind of just gotta stay locked
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Speaker 1: in on on the bigger picture. And I was just
16:39
Speaker 1: talking to some guys. I remember talking to some guys
16:41
Speaker 1: last weekend. I was just telling them that this is
16:43
Speaker 1: genuinely the most fun I've had playing football in a
16:46
Speaker 1: long time, because I'm sure you never lost in high
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Speaker 1: school whole lot, right, Nah, I went to a high
16:51
Speaker 1: school I went to was pretty pretty dominant, so we
16:53
Speaker 1: we won a lot. It's like one, probably three I
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Speaker 1: love three games in college, so um yeah, I mean
17:03
Speaker 1: then I stepped in my first year in the NFL
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Speaker 1: and we were we were rolling to So I mean,
17:08
Speaker 1: but just like I said, it's each year as individually
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Speaker 1: is only year. So next year it won't be the
17:13
Speaker 1: same as this year. This year wasn't the same as
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Speaker 1: last year. You won't never be able to duplicate what
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Speaker 1: you get season in, season out, So you genuinely just
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Speaker 1: gotta learn to live, just be in a moment Finn.
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Speaker 1: Thing we do on this is I Caught the ozone five.
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Speaker 1: It's by quick fun questions, Ken Robinson, what was your
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Speaker 1: last binge, wash my last bench? Oh last change you
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Speaker 1: on Netflix? It just came out the new season I
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Speaker 1: think like maybe like two, two or three days ago.
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Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with the show, is really it's
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Speaker 1: really good. It's your all time ginge watch favorite show,
17:47
Speaker 1: favorite show, or just well, my all time favorite show.
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Speaker 1: You go to when you're debating in the locker room.
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Speaker 1: My all time favorite show is Fresh Print Hill There. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I just grew up watching that. It would always come on.
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Speaker 1: I just remember when I was like really young, you
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Speaker 1: know Nick and Knight, It will come on Nick and
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Speaker 1: Knight and just yeah, absolutely your pregame go to song.
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Speaker 1: M It's always changing. It's kind of just based on
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Speaker 1: my kind of based on my my my mood, whatever
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Speaker 1: mood I'm here. But what I've been doing lately is
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Speaker 1: my music. It kind of builds up like when I
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Speaker 1: first get in when I'm when I'm first getting in,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like slower vibes and then closer because
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Speaker 1: when I play, I'm naturally like a like a kind
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Speaker 1: of more upbeat guy. So I think I'm just kind
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Speaker 1: of trying to stay as calm as I can right
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Speaker 1: up until the moment. So it's it's always evolved in
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Speaker 1: sport you would have played if you hadn't played football.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, um. I always got people in this, probably basketball.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I could have always people, I
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Speaker 1: could always him. I think that's just papable. I honestly
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Speaker 1: think it's just because you can't play and don't thing
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Speaker 1: people realize. Now, I got a couple, I got I
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Speaker 1: know a couple. I got some friends that playing in
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Speaker 1: the NBA, and man, they are like, you just go
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Speaker 1: watch NBA players just like shoot around the gym. They
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Speaker 1: don't miss it. It's different. They don't miss shots like
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Speaker 1: that period. So it's always football, guys. I could have
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Speaker 1: went playing on you because but but yeah, probably basketball.
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Speaker 1: That's the sport. Yeah, that's the sport. I honestly probably
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Speaker 1: love basketball just watching I probably love to watching basketball
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Speaker 1: just as much as I love aboutching football. It leads
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Speaker 1: to my next question. All times starting five basketball, all right,
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Speaker 1: I always think about this too. I would go I
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Speaker 1: would go stealth at point guard. Old people magic. Now
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go stealth at point guard. Um,
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Speaker 1: I go Jordan at the two, Kobe at the three,
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Speaker 1: Brant at the four, Shack at the five, Shack over Kareem.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna lose too many games. Shack
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Speaker 1: was just so dominant, that's true. Who's the first most
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Speaker 1: responsible for you being the person most? I mean probably
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Speaker 1: just my mom um. I mean I always grew up
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Speaker 1: I just kind of loving the game, loving being around
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Speaker 1: the game. But it's kind of like, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: I think it's just like where I'm from. Louisiana's football country,
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Speaker 1: so you the little boys grow up playing football and
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Speaker 1: it's just kind of like what we do and U so,
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Speaker 1: I always have loved the game, but it's just probably
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Speaker 1: just probably my mom punished Ken Robinson. I was looking
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Speaker 1: forward to this. You did not disappoint. The fantastic job
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you joining me as in the podcast.
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Speaker 1: All right, thank you,