Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / How KISS and Aerosmith Shaped Punk's DNA [Highlight From Episode 314]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Here's a highlight from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
- 0:03Speaker 1: This episode's guest is Sahan Jai Siria, the author of
- 0:07Speaker 1: Don't Say Please, The Oral History of De Kreutzen. They
- 0:11Speaker 1: were into a broad range of music, which you did
- 0:13Speaker 1: talk about. They were fans of classic rock bands like Kiss,
- 0:18Speaker 1: cec are Zeppelin, ACDC, Aerosmith. Yeah.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think one of the things that
- 0:24Speaker 2: I learned, you know, like I came up listening to
- 0:26Speaker 2: punk and hardcore. You know, I'm I'm almost forty, I'll
- 0:29Speaker 2: be turning forty in October. So the classic rock thing
- 0:32Speaker 2: was not really anything that I really paid much attention
- 0:35Speaker 2: to as a young kid. I loved Queen. I was
- 0:37Speaker 2: a huge Queen fan, but you know, some of the
- 0:41Speaker 2: other bands maybe just they didn't really connect with me.
- 0:44Speaker 2: And it wasn't really until later in life that like,
- 0:46Speaker 2: especially like the glam stuff that really resonated with me.
- 0:48Speaker 2: And I think they came from really liking a lot
- 0:50Speaker 2: of seventies punk, but a lot of the classic rock
- 0:53Speaker 2: stuff didn't resonate with me. And I think it's because
- 0:55Speaker 2: I had other, you know, punk things to listen to.
- 0:58Speaker 2: But the thing that I learned and researching this book
- 1:00Speaker 2: and just reading about this period in general, is a
- 1:02Speaker 2: lot of people who listen to punkin hardcore bands. Of course,
- 1:06Speaker 2: they weren't listening to punk and hardcore because they were
- 1:08Speaker 2: helping invent it. So they were listening to the heaviest
- 1:11Speaker 2: music available, and the heaviest available was like hard rock
- 1:14Speaker 2: and classic rock, you know. And so many people you
- 1:17Speaker 2: know who are like kind of gen X age group,
- 1:19Speaker 2: they you know, Kiss was a big deal for them.
- 1:22Speaker 2: It was like a early early influence because it was
- 1:25Speaker 2: just like it was made for teenage kids. You know,
- 1:27Speaker 2: they look like cartoon characters. You know, it's just guitar
- 1:30Speaker 2: solos and flamethrowers and in ball machines. It makes so
- 1:33Speaker 2: much sense for a certain a person of a certain
- 1:37Speaker 2: age at a certain time to be a Kiss fan, right,
- 1:41Speaker 2: So all those things were just like you know, the edgiest,
- 1:44Speaker 2: you know, like gnarliest thing available. And I think so
- 1:49Speaker 2: many people who went on to play in punkin hardcore
- 1:51Speaker 2: bands definitely did their time listening to you know, classic
- 1:55Speaker 2: rock them and that stuff. I mean, thround, sweet and slight,
- 2:00Speaker 2: but all that stuff is great, you know.
- 2:03Speaker 1: I think it's interesting and reading a lot about grunge
- 2:06Speaker 1: bands and how much they were influenced by early Aerosmith
- 2:09Speaker 1: and Black Sabbath. I hear that often early Smith and
- 2:13Speaker 1: Black Sabbath.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the early Aerosmith records are pretty
- 2:17Speaker 2: pretty cool. I mean, especially you know, the vocalist for
- 2:19Speaker 2: Decrots and Da Kevinski. He cites Stephen Tyler as a
- 2:22Speaker 2: huge influence. When he first told me that in person,
- 2:24Speaker 2: years before I was writing the book, I was just like,
- 2:27Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting it, because again I didn't realize that
- 2:29Speaker 2: some of these like people who listen who made punk
- 2:31Speaker 2: and hardcore were listening to classic rock. But I was
- 2:34Speaker 2: thinking about it. I was like, well, you think about
- 2:35Speaker 2: the end of dream On where he's really pushing his
- 2:39Speaker 2: voice into like screaming territory. I'm like, oh, that makes sense,
- 2:42Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, I mean the grunge bands. I mean,
- 2:45Speaker 2: Kirkobane is a huge fan of like a record like
- 2:47Speaker 2: Rocks by Aerosmith. He loved that record.
- 2:49Speaker 1: You know, yeah, it's dirty, it's it's it's grungy.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Yeah totally, you know, I mean the sound of that
- 2:55Speaker 2: record rules. That's a that's a that's a great record.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I'm not like the world's biggest Aerosmith fan, but they
- 2:59Speaker 2: have some rec as A definitely dig for sure,