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The Muster- Jamie Mackay: Country Crossover · The Muster on Hokonui

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  Speaker 1: The Country Crossover, brought to you by Bioactive Soils.
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  Speaker 2: Growing together with healthy soils.
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  Speaker 3: Jamie Mackay, host of The Country, joins us for The
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  Speaker 3: Country Crossover. Thanks to Bioactive Soils. Good afternoon, Jamie. It's
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  Speaker 3: been a busy old week.
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  Speaker 1: It has been a busy old week, as they say
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  Speaker 1: on another high-rating rural show that no one watches. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it has been a busy old week, and thank goodness...
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  Speaker 1: Thank goodness, Andy, and I hope I'm not giving Southland
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  Speaker 1: and southwest Otago farmers the kiss of death.
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  Speaker 2: The weather looks like it's changed for the better.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the government's declared a medium adverse scale event for
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  Speaker 3: the South. So what this means is money is released
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  Speaker 3: for the Rural Support Trust and the likes to do
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  Speaker 3: a few more of these events they've been doing. They've
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  Speaker 3: called it the brunch on us. Beef and Lamb's running
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  Speaker 3: events as well, Jamie. It's about trying to get people
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  Speaker 3: off farm, even if it's just for an hour or so,
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  Speaker 3: to get out of the grind, go and have a coffee,
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  Speaker 3: have a burger and have a yum with a few
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  Speaker 3: people because you need to go and you need to
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  Speaker 3: get a bit of a break every now and then.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and not only support for the Rural Support Trust, Andy,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't got it sitting in front of me, but
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  Speaker 1: off the top of my head there's also a bit
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  Speaker 1: of tax relief if you're having issues with your tax payments.
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  Speaker 1: And the other thing is if you are financially battling away,
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  Speaker 1: there is some community services help or whatever. So it's
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  Speaker 1: just opening up some channels of help. And I agree
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  Speaker 1: with you. Now we're into October now, Andy. For most
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  Speaker 1: sheep farmers, that signals the end of lambing and the
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  Speaker 1: dairy farmers are through calving. And while September was, or
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  Speaker 1: shit-tember as I call it, has been a side of
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  Speaker 1: a month, I think farmers can take an hour or
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  Speaker 1: two off the farm in October, easier than September.
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  Speaker 2: And I really hope they do. And today's Friday.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, if you like a beer, as we said,
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  Speaker 1: I think last week or the week before, go and
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  Speaker 1: pop to your local pub or your rugby club or
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  Speaker 1: whatever's going on in your community. It might be your
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  Speaker 1: local church on Sunday. But just a beer mix. and mingle,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously everyone's been in the same boat, so problem
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  Speaker 1: shared is a problem half. I know that's banging on
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  Speaker 1: with old advice, but it really works.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it does.
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  Speaker 3: Southland Rural Support Trust's number as well, 0800 787 254.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to Katrina and the co there. There's always somebody
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the line. That's the important thing
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  Speaker 3: there as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Rural Support Trust have done a fantastic job. And
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  Speaker 1: a shout out, and I haven't been down on the
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  Speaker 1: ground in Southland, Andy, but I'm hearing, you know, local
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  Speaker 1: transports and all that are doing their things. They're putting
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  Speaker 1: on a, you know, and I had a text from
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  Speaker 1: a farmer. I think it was Awarua Lime or someone
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  Speaker 1: like that putting on a, I may have got the
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  Speaker 1: company wrong. Sorry, Andy, but a kai.
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  Speaker 2: AB Lime. Probably AB Lime. AB Lime, yeah, thank you
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  Speaker 2: very much.
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  Speaker 1: AB Lime putting on a coffee and a pie for
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  Speaker 1: farmers and it's all good stuff. And the service community,
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  Speaker 1: the rural service community has really.
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  Speaker 2: Come into their own.
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  Speaker 1: They're obviously very dependent on farmers, but it's good to
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  Speaker 1: see them. dipping into their own pockets effectively and doing
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  Speaker 1: this to help out their clients.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's really good. It's good for community spirit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Beef and Lamb Spring Shouts next week, Three
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  Speaker 3: Rivers Hotel at Wyndham and Brunnel Peaks Cafe at Blackmount
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  Speaker 3: on the Thursday. Look, we're well and truly into the
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  Speaker 3: election cycle now, and they had the rural debate the
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  Speaker 3: other night with Heather Duprecy-Allen as host. I understand you
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  Speaker 3: didn't watch a lot of it, but myself and Michelle
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  Speaker 3: tried to get a bit of a gauge for you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good on you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I had a couple of pints at golf and
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  Speaker 1: then I got home and got distracted by the spin-off
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  Speaker 1: series from Reacher called Nearly.
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  Speaker 2: Priorities. Priorities, I know. Rural broadcaster.
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  Speaker 1: And then I thought, oh, shit, I'd better go back
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  Speaker 1: and watch the rural debate.
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  Speaker 2: Did you go and watch it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I watched a wee bit of the end of
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  Speaker 1: it and then Heather said to them, right, you've got
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  Speaker 1: 60 seconds each to sum up your argument. And I thought,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can face this. because that's
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  Speaker 1: the pre-scripted stuff that I don't actually enjoy. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it was Steve Abel's turn to speak. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't mind Steve. I like him as a bloke, but
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  Speaker 1: he's got no idea or no reality when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to actual farming. Steve would, well, they kind of backflipped
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  Speaker 1: a wee bit on the nitrogen. They were talking about
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  Speaker 1: banning synthetic nitrogen fertilizer. Now they're down to a limit
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  Speaker 1: of 125 kilograms per hectare per annum, which is a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a change of tune. And to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: farmers could probably live with that. But, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: bang on about organic and regenerative farming and thinking that
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  Speaker 1: is the utopia and it's a solve all.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 1: They're niche farming methods. They work for some people and
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  Speaker 1: they work well. Look at the payout from Fonterra for
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  Speaker 1: organic milk. If that floats your boat, get into it.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not possible for everybody to do it. In
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  Speaker 1: actual fact, I talked to a farmer chief executive of
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  Speaker 1: a major dairy co-op, and I said, what would happen
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  Speaker 1: if everyone went organic? Not that they would, but it
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  Speaker 1: would crash the price overnight. So it's supply and demand,
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  Speaker 1: niche product, but organics and regenerative farming is not the
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  Speaker 1: fix-all that Steve Abel would believe it is.
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  Speaker 3: Joe Luxton coming out and saying that Labour would be
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  Speaker 3: a lot more friendlier to farmers this time around.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they weren't last time.
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  Speaker 3: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: They were awful last time, but you remember they had
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  Speaker 1: David Parker, and I think he really had a snitch
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  Speaker 1: against farming. He was on a one-man crusade almost to
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  Speaker 1: destroy farming in some ways. Damien wasn't always the most user-friendly,
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  Speaker 1: and I will give Jo her Jews. They have with her,
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  Speaker 1: and she's a very conciliatory sort of person, they've really
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  Speaker 1: mended fences with the farming community, especially federated farmers. They've
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  Speaker 1: gone out of their way to woo federated farmers. And
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  Speaker 1: Chippy is definitely, to his credit again, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: I would trust them if they got in there, but Chippy,
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  Speaker 1: to his credit, has come out and said publicly, we
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  Speaker 1: got it wrong with farming in 2020 to 2023. We've
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  Speaker 1: gone out, we've listened, we've changed, and we've seen that
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  Speaker 1: with them not pricing ag emissions. So I'll give Labour
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  Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt on this one there. Potential
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  Speaker 1: coalition partners, not in a month to Sundays. The Greens,
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  Speaker 1: straight out anti-farming. Top, not much better. And the activist party,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell they're up to.
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  Speaker 3: Chippy's come out angry this week, though. Attacking Hosking the
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  Speaker 3: other morning. And what did Mike say? This today was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: He said it's almost like Trevor Mallard's behind him. He's
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  Speaker 3: got to wind him up each time before he goes
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  Speaker 3: out on stage so he can actually get into attack mode.
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  Speaker 1: Someone's got in Chippy's ear because I've found with him
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  Speaker 1: over the years that I've spoken to him. He's a
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  Speaker 1: personable sort of bloke, but he's kind of a bit
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  Speaker 1: like a half deflated balloon. And I don't mean that
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  Speaker 1: in a nasty way, but he's not really super energized.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas if you talk to someone like Luxon, he's a
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  Speaker 1: bit like an energizer bunny. He's all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you could never accuse him of a
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  Speaker 1: lack of enthusiasm. But someone's got into Chippy's ear. And
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  Speaker 1: the piece of radio with Mike Hosking on ZB was
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  Speaker 1: a really fascinating listening because Chippy got straight onto the
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  Speaker 1: front foot and actually scored a couple of blows, to
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  Speaker 1: be fair, and Hosking was taken aback for a minute,
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  Speaker 1: but as soon as they got onto Chippy's capital gains tax,
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  Speaker 1: which is going to be their Achilles heel, it's their
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  Speaker 1: only tax policy, they're not going to generate much income
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  Speaker 1: in the next few years through the capital gains tax,
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  Speaker 1: and worse still, They've promised to spend it all on
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  Speaker 1: three visits for everyone in New Zealand to the doctor.
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  Speaker 1: It is so poorly targeted in a health system that
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  Speaker 1: it's crying out for more resources.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: A capital gains tax, if you're going to have one,
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  Speaker 1: let's poke it all towards health, but.
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  Speaker 2: Let's make it targeted. This is such a stupid, stupid policy.
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  Speaker 3: Right, let's talk something a bit happier, although as a
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  Speaker 3: Stags fan, long-suffering Stags fans, two wins this year. It
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  Speaker 3: turns out Bay of Plenty and Waikato, they're Southland's bunnies
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  Speaker 3: over the past couple of seasons. We've got to play
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  Speaker 3: Northland tonight. Normally you'd say we're a good chance in
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  Speaker 3: this game, but Northland's near the top of the table.
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  Speaker 3: They should have beaten counties and retained the shield for
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  Speaker 3: the summer. They've lost it, and they're coming down to
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  Speaker 3: Invercargill tonight, and this promises to be not too bad
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  Speaker 3: a game. Hopefully the Stags go out there and leave
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  Speaker 3: it all in the paddock.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to wish ill on the farmers
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  Speaker 2: and the weather, but could we get a wee cold
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  Speaker 2: snap coming in tonight?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: We've had enough of that. We're going to beat the
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  Speaker 2: dry-running rugby, Jamie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Northland are a good side. And I was
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  Speaker 1: really disappointed that they lost the Shield because they hadn't
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  Speaker 1: had it for 48 years or something like that. So
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  Speaker 1: I would have loved it to have spent the summer
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  Speaker 1: in Whangarei. It's not going to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Southland Stags at home are a much
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  Speaker 1: better team than they are on the road. I think
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  Speaker 1: they've got a starter's chance.
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  Speaker 2: They might be.
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  Speaker 1: TAB, Andy, for, I don't know, 12 and under. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: another disappointing season, really. But the good news is these
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  Speaker 1: young guys we've got coming through, you know, Jimmy Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: young Muli Aina, some of these young players we've got.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Withey's been outstanding.
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  Speaker 2: All season.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, Jack Taylor's been injured. I just really
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  Speaker 1: hope that we get a shout in for Jaden Henderson,
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  Speaker 1: Riversdale boy. I thought he's been outstanding for someone they
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  Speaker 1: sort of dragged in at the last minute every game.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched him play, I reckon he's been really good.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a kind of a local guy who's come
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  Speaker 1: back to the province, give him a go in the
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  Speaker 1: jersey and he plays with real heart because it means
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot to him to play for Southland. I
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  Speaker 1: think sometimes some of the imports aren't like that.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, Andy. It's my final shot on anger. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we'll leave it there. Thanks for your time. I really
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  Speaker 2: do appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Good on you, Andy, and good luck to the farmers
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  Speaker 1: and good luck for a nice, fine week ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Jamie Mackay and the Country Crossover, thanks to Bioactive Soils.
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  Speaker 3: Phil Duncan's up next from Weather Watch, looking at the
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  Speaker 3: forecast for the next seven days.