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UnchainedTV: Meet The Cat Who Escaped a U.S. Government Torture Lab · UNCHAINEDTV'S Truth Files with Jane Velez-Mitchell

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Welcome to Unchained TV, featuring best-selling author,
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TV journalist, and the founder of the Unchained
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Now, here's your host, Jane Valez Mitchell.
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And we have some breaking news for you.
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You are going to meet a man who
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was doing quite possibly more than anybody else
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on the planet to end ridiculous, cruel, wasteful,
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taxpayer-funded animal torture, Anthony Bellotti.
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And the breaking news is that this man
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has stopped some of these hideous experiments.
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If you're listening, take our word for it.
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It's horrible.
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They slashed her face with scissors, contorted her
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face, electro-shocked her body.
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It's just unbelievable what government money is doing
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in terms of animal torture.
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It's your tax bill.
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And what is it accomplishing?
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A whole heck of nothing, okay?
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And this organisation, White Coat Waste, has shut
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down a lot of these ridiculous experiments that
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are really money-making machines.
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So they're urging you to go to whitecoatwaste
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.org and get involved.
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And now you're going to meet the man
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who has done so much to shut down
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these labs, the one and only Anthony Bellotti.
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And not only Anthony, you're going to meet
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Delilah, one of the cats that he pulled
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out of one of these torture, these mediaeval
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torture chambers.
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Tell us, Anthony, what did you do with
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Delilah and why is this happening?
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Hi, Jane, and thanks for having both of
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us on.
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This is Delilah here, and she's very grateful,
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as am I, for the opportunity to be
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on the show today and talk about the
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federal animal testing crisis, federal animal testing.
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And that's what we work on here.
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White Coat Waste is a bipartisan government watchdog
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and nonprofit organisation, and we are fighting to
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expose and close the U.S. government's animal
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testing business.
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So Delilah here is a survivor of animal
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testing.
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And not just from any cat lab, but
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she came from the largest federal cat lab
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in the United States government, the largest taxpayer
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-funded lab that there was, abusing cats and
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kittens.
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And White Coat Waste Project exposed and closed
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her lab approximately five years ago.
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We just celebrated the five-year anniversary of
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this lab.
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It's had enormous ripple effects for cats and
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kittens and many, many other animals across the
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government.
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As you can see here, Delilah is also
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number 87.
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You can see the tattoos in both of
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her ears.
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And I have a tight shot of that.
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Here it is.
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You can see the circle.
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That is the tattoo.
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And it says here, 5,436 perished in
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USDA's Kitten Slaughterhouse.
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That's right.
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The greatest day of my life was the
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day when leading the campaign that exposed and
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closed that lab.
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For nearly 50 years, almost 50 years, continually
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taxpayer-funded, this lab was abusing cats and
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kittens.
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And not just here, but abroad.
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They were doing toxoplasmosis research.
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They were feeding kittens rotten meat infected with
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the toxoplasmosis parasites, infecting them.
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And they were only two or three months
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old.
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And then they slaughtered and incinerated them.
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They killed them all.
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And this was going on for, again, almost
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five decades.
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Delilah here, we liberated from that lab.
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She was a breeder.
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She was used as an incubator for the
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kittens in that lab.
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22 of her kittens were killed.
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They were slaughtered and they were burned.
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And thousands and thousands of others suffered the
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same fate.
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We put out a massive investigation a few
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years ago.
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And we rallied Republicans and Democrats together on
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the Hill to help us to cut the
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purse strings and cut the funding to that
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lab.
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And after five decades, we knocked it out,
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shut it down.
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And we were able to free the survivors.
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I actually adopted two of them.
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And sadly, little petite, who was the other
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cat I adopted, she passed away just very
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recently.
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And this is, yeah.
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This is, it's so horrifying to me because
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I pay taxes, as I'm sure you do.
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And we have no control over where our
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money goes to these ridiculous experiments.
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And we're going to get into just how
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ridiculous they are.
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But this has touched a nerve already.
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The phone lines are lining up.
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Tiffany in Los Angeles, what is your question
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or thought for Anthony Bilotti, the head of
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White Coat Waste?
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Good afternoon, Jane, and thank you for taking
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my call.
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And Anthony, thank you for, I had no
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idea that our tax dollars are going to
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experiments on cats.
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So much of this is hidden from us.
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I was wondering what your background is.
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Did you work in a lab or how
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were you, how did you come about to
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find out about this cause?
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Tiffany.
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Thank you for the question.
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I did indeed work in an animal lab
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when I was 17 years old.
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I'm going to date myself.
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It was 1995.
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It was 29 summers ago, right around this
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time.
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And I thought I wanted to be a
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doctor.
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I thought I would get a letter of
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recommendation for college and go into medical.
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My dad was a dentist, is a dentist,
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and I wanted to follow in that kind
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of footsteps.
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I liked science.
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And I did an internship in an animal
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lab in the New York area.
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And I remember saying to myself, you know,
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after a day of working in the lab
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with, with pigs, which was the, the, uh,
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the animal that they were using and abusing
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in that lab.
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And I said to myself, if this is
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one of the good labs, what the heck
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are they doing in the bad ones?
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You know, I was, I was really just
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horrified by what I saw and I wasn't
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involved with, with, with, with fighting animal testing.
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I wasn't involved with animal rights.
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I wasn't involved with anything.
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I was 17 years old.
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I was just involved with applying to college.
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I was a kid and it was a
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wake up call.
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And I said, I want to do something
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about this.
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This is, this is going to be my
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life's work.
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And I didn't know how to do it.
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I didn't know what to do.
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Um, I didn't know how to fight it.
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I know how to fight it now, but
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it took me, it took me a hot
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minute to figure out the secret sauce to
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saving cats and springing them from labs and
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shutting them down.
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I didn't know about taxes.
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I didn't pay taxes.
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Uh, I was a kid, right?
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I, I, what did I know?
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So, you know, I bounced around a bit.
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Um, and my first job out of school
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was working in investment banking.
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I thought I was going to my, my
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big, my, my, my, my great plan was
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to make a lot of money and fund,
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fund the camp.
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I thought I'd be a funder, you know,
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fund the campaigns to fight back against what
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you're seeing on the screen.
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My, my, my half-baked plan came undone
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sometime after nine 11, I was laid off.
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I wasn't very good at banking.
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I wasn't making a lot of money that
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plan needed to be rethought.
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So then I said, all right, what can
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I do to be good?
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What's what, what would I be good at?
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What skill can I learn to, to help
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animals?
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What would be a good cause we're banking
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and raising, you know, save out that didn't
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work.
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So what can I do?
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And I went to DC to learn how
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to run campaigns.
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My background was in political campaigning and public
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affairs.
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I became a professional, uh, campaign consultant, a
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political consultant, and I wanted to learn a
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trait that I thought would be valuable for
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animals.
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How do we run professional strategic campaigns?
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How did we learn about public opinion polls
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and advertising and targeting and research and investigations?
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And I pursued a professional path in, in
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that world, working for, for candidates and advocacy
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organisations.
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Uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger was one of what I
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worked on his campaign as a, as an
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opposition researcher.
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I learned about fundraising.
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I learned about targeting.
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I learned about research and I learned a
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skillset and I learned a skillset that, that
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I thought would be super helpful for, for
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running professional campaigns.
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And, and I learned eventually that animal testing
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is taxpayer funded.
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And if you can fund something, you can
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defund it.
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Think about that.
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The U S government spends wastes, it wastes
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it $20 billion a year on animal testing.
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That's more than the entire private sector combined.
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Think about that.
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Delilah's lab was taxpayer funded, 22 and a
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half million dollars in us tax money.
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The government is the funder.
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It is the market maker.
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And I realised I had the, I had
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the realisation that again, based on some of
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the I was working on on the, uh,
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at the time that if you can cut
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the purse strings, you can cut the problem.
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If you can cut the funding, you can
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cut the problem.
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So I came up with the idea for
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the white coat waste project.
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That's what, and we've changed the world.
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You have indeed.
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And I know you would like everybody to
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get involved.
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You can't do it alone.
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Go to whitecoatwaste.org and get involved.
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Um, you are, I think a brilliant organiser.
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We're going to talk about the global headlines
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that you achieved, uh, during the pandemic.
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And that is an entire saga, but first
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we've got another caller Nilo far in Dallas,
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Texas, your question or thought for Anthony Bilotti,
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who is with Delilah, one of the cats
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that he got out of these torture labs.
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What do you have to ask him?
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Hi, it's such an honour.
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Um, I'm going to bring up the Beagle
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Gate campaign because it went viral and, um,
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it's such a huge victory for animal rights,
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especially since Fauci and his cronies at the
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NIH tried to cover it up.
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Um, and, um, especially this lab was in
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Tunisia.
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And I know that the Biden administration also
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knew that Fauci was lying and covering it
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up.
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Um, so in the midst of the orchestrated
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coverup, the proof is in the pudding.
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And my question is why isn't Fauci in
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jail?
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All right.
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Well, let me just say this.
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Uh, we here, we, we try to stay
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away from, you know, attacking individuals and principles
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above personalities, but Nilo far, your question is
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excellent in that it's not just cats, it's
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cats, it's monkeys, it's mice, and it's also
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dogs.
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Now this is little Wednesday.
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She is my Beagle mix, but the reason
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why they use Beagles is because Beagles are
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so, so gentle and forgiving.
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And this little one is a very, very
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gentle, gentle baby.
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So tell us a little bit about, we've
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covered cat torture.
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Let's talk a little bit about the way
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the U S government is funding dog torture.
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Absolutely.
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You said, and Jane, you said it, why
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Beagles?
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Why?
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Because they're docile and they take the, they
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take the abuse.
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They're better specimens to take the punishment in
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the lab.
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That's why, you know, our first time, our
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first full year at the white coat waste
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project was 2016.
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It, it, it was a, again, I, I
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had, I was working, uh, before that and
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in, in, in another career.
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And, but, but we went full time, full
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time, became a full time organisation in 2016.
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So it hasn't been around that long, not
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even, not even a decade of full-time
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work.
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Well, our very first full time, uh, effort,
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the very first campaign we launched was for
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dogs, not cats.
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And in, it was November of 2016, our
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very first public policy effort was, was it
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was, it was an investigation called spending to
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death, spending to death, an audit and an
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investigation of what the government was doing to
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the Beagles and the dogs across the agencies,
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the NIH, the defence department, uh, the CDC,
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the FDA, and the veterans administration.
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Now in that report lay the seeds for
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some of the, for some of the most
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historic campaigns for dogs of the last 50
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years in that report back in 2016, we
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had the, uh, the Beagle gate sand flies,
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at least one of them in that report
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at the time, the NIH, uh, whether feeding
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the dogs, the Beagles to the sand flies,
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letting them, uh, eat them alive.
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That was in that report as of 20,
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as of November, 2016.
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And so was, so was an investigation of
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what they were doing to the dogs at
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the DA at the department of veterans affairs.
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So that little report that we put out,
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the Washington post covered, uh, and countless others
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in that report, lay the seeds for the
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most important campaigns to save dogs, uh, in
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the last five decades, that little report late
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spring, uh, was the jumping off point for
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our campaign to expose and close all of
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the dog labs across the department of veterans
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affairs.
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And, uh, that was a five-year campaign
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from 2017 to 2022 that effectively annihilated dog
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testing, uh, uh, where they were in Milwaukee,
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in Cleveland, in Richmond, again, coast to Los
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Angeles, coast to coast, clean them all out,
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which we did.
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Uh, and that campaign was one of the
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most effective, I think it was the most
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effective campaign for dogs, uh, in American history.
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So let me ask you a question.
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Here I am, we know we don't have
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tails, we don't have paws.
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If this little girl eats chocolate, she gets
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poisoned.
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Uh, you know, I eat chocolate, unfortunately a
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little too much.
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Um, but the point is that you see
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how docile she is.
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She's yawning already.
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What are their justifications for these torturous experiments?
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Like how do they justify this?
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How do they convince, uh, the heads of
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these agencies to, or Congress to give them
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money?
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They've adopted this.
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Give me, give me, give me culture.
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Give me, give me, give me.
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They're always starving.
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They're always hungry for more money always.
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And the answer to your question is started
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the same year I was working in the
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lab back in 1995 is when this, the
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modern, I consider the modern birth of this
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virulent, virulent resurgence of animal testing at taxpayer
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expense started in the, in, in 1995, you
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had this unholy Alliance of Democrats and Republicans.
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Both sides are guilty of this boat.
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Uh, back in, back in, you know, 95,
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give or take about 30 years ago, they
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came together, Jane.
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And they both said, looking around the world,
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looking around the country.
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Okay.
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We have legitimate human diseases out there.
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We have an ageing population.
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We have some real problems and let's throw
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money at the problem.
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Let's throw money at the problem.
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So both sides started inflating and ballooning the
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budgets for places like the NIH, which has
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since more than tripled, uh, in, in, in
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budget since, since I, the same time I
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was working in a lab, they started doubling,
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tripling and more for agencies like the national
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institutes of health.
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Why is that a problem?
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Because places like the NIH spend 50 cents
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on the dollar for every dollar you give
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them 50 cents of it is going to
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abuse cats like, like my Delilah here.
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So it's not hard to see how this
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problem happened.
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It's if I give you a dollar and
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you're spending half of it on animal testing,
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and then I give you $2 and then
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I give you $4.
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Okay.
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That's how this all started.
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And so what'd they do?
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I mean, again, you have, you have places
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like the NIH, the veterans administration, the U
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S department of agriculture, her lab, they all
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went around had in hand and took advantage
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of, of these politicians.
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They took advantage of these lawmakers and they
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went around and saying, just give me more.
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I'll, I'll cure it this time.
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Just give me more.
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We'll get it this time.
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But as you pointed out, dogs eat chalk,
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dogs eat chocolate, they'll die.
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You eat chalk.
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Well, you know, or they'll get really sick.
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You eat chocolate.
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It's a good afternoon.
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Maybe it's not good, but it's an snack.
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Right.
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You're not a dog.
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I'm not a cat.
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We're different.
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This stuff is incredibly wasteful.
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It doesn't really work on people, but government
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does what government always does.
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They throw money at the problem.
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They have one move spend, spend.
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And what we're trying to do is put
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the genie back in the bottle.
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Now it's up to us now to go
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around and start defunding these programmes because they've
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spun out of control.
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I think you're making incredible points.
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We've got yet another caller, Annie in Sherman
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Oaks, your question or thought for Anthony Bilotti,
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the founder and president of White Coat Waste.
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Oh my, thank you so much, Jane, for
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having this show.
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Incredibly powerful.
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And Anthony, wow.
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I love White Coat Waste.
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You expose so much.
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This is a very near and dear to
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my heart because I studied psychology and in
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the department, they literally demand that we have
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to participate in these programmes.
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In addition to what I volunteered in the
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health department, they required it as a community
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service to support all these experiments on the
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animals in the name of cancer, in the
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name of, you know, supposed cancer solution, heart
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disease and Alzheimer's, et cetera, et cetera.
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And I used to be so good at
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it.
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I was team captain when I was blind
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to the reality, but I didn't want to
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participate in animal testing, which is another story
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for another day.
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It's a nightmare.
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But how can we stop these universities lumped
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over millions of dollars flowing in their pockets?
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These are crimes that go from our pocket,
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our tax money to torture animals so that
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universities could gloat with all that money and
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constantly repurpose students.
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You're right.
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You made a very good point.
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Universities are a big part of the problem.
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They really want the money.
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It helps the university.
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In other words, they take a cut.
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You've got these university scientists living in their
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McMansions.
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They're making money.
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And it's, I mean, honestly, it's a money
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-making machine, you know, money corrupts and that's,
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it's legal corruption.
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It's incentivised.
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It's policy.
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And that's how they put new wings on
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the school.
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That's how they balance the books.
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So you have universities who are going into
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the animal testing business because that's what it
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is.
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It's a business.
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So they're going into it, as she just
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explained, as you pointed out there, because it's
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lucrative.
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The answer to your question is again, defund
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it.
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If a programme can be funded, it can
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be defunded.
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That's what we're doing.
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You have to go after the root cause.
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If you want to tackle animal testing, you
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must go after wasteful government spending.
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It's not enough to just protest the labs.
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It's not enough to just name and shame
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these professors.
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It doesn't work.
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It's not enough.
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You have to cut the purse strings.
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If you're not going after the funding source,
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you're not going to be able to make
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a real impact.
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I'm telling you, that's the secret sauce.
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So the answer to this question, whether it's
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done in the federal government or funded by
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the federal government in these schools and universities,
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Jane's playing some videos of, again, that we've
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uncovered that are happening in the campuses, in
22:00
the colleges themselves.
22:02
Again, you got to cut the purse strings.
22:04
So for example, one of the ways we're
22:05
doing that, we're backing a new piece of
22:07
federal legislation right now called the PAW Act,
22:11
the Preventing Animal Abuse and Waste Act.
22:15
Preventing Animal Abuse and Waste Act to completely
22:17
strip every single red cent that's funded or
22:21
run by the National Institutes of Health for
22:23
dog and cat tests.
22:26
This is the kind of policy we need.
22:28
We're also working in appropriations right now.
22:32
So not just with a standalone permanent legislation,
22:35
but in the budget, the budget process.
22:37
Right now, we're making progress with getting language
22:40
to cut the purse strings for the VA,
22:43
for the NIH and get accountability.
22:47
So that's the name of the game.
22:50
It's a money game.
22:51
You can't talk about animal testing unless you
22:53
talk about wasteful spending.
22:55
Now, I just read a fascinating article in
22:58
BuzzFeed that absolutely blew my mind.
23:03
I was aware, but I wasn't really aware
23:05
how much white coat waste was behind the
23:08
whole controversy over the Wuhan Virology Lab.
23:12
Now, we could do an entire four podcasts
23:16
on this whole thing.
23:17
So not to dive too deep, but obviously
23:20
there was a pandemic.
23:21
The first shots were of the wet market
23:26
in Wuhan, China that had all sorts of
23:29
animals together, faeces and blood and pus, and
23:32
that was the prime suspect.
23:36
And then it turned out that there's a
23:38
lab also in Wuhan where they're doing tests,
23:41
or they were doing tests.
23:44
And the government of the United States was
23:48
funding some of these tests.
23:50
You blew that story out of the water
23:53
by getting Freedom of Information Act requests, getting
23:57
that information, and all of a sudden it
23:59
was global headlines.
24:01
Now, let me say, we still don't culturally,
24:05
societally, we haven't said, okay, here's where it
24:08
happened.
24:10
Because it's very hard to go into the
24:12
past, even with murder cases that seem open
24:16
and shut.
24:16
I was a prime reporter for 40 years.
24:19
It seems pretty obvious who the culprit is,
24:21
but if they're not convicted beyond a reasonable
24:24
doubt, you can't say they're guilty.
24:26
So we still don't know for certain where
24:30
it started.
24:31
In the Wuhan market, where all these animals
24:34
were being for food, or in the Wuhan
24:36
lab, where the animals were being tortured for
24:39
so-called science.
24:41
But either way, animal torture is behind the
24:44
pandemic that disrupted our lives and killed so
24:49
many people.
24:50
And yet the media does not talk about
24:52
that, Anthony.
24:53
Yeah, it's true.
24:54
And I'll do you one better.
24:56
The cat on my lap is responsible.
24:58
Her and my other departed, little petite, the
25:02
other cat from the USDA.
25:04
Let's see Delilah a little bit, because she's
25:06
out of frame.
25:07
Come on.
25:08
Come on, baby.
25:10
Or just, all you have to do is
25:12
lower your screen a little bit from your,
25:14
yeah.
25:15
If you lower your screen, there we go.
25:17
That's Delilah.
25:18
She escaped.
25:19
Well, she was rescued by Anthony's white coat
25:22
waist from one of the labs.
25:24
Tell the story.
25:24
Thank you, Anthony.
25:25
And the reason the world knows that US
25:31
taxpayers funded that Wuhan lab, the reason they
25:36
even know that, that Fauci funded the lab,
25:38
the NIH funded all of that, the reason
25:40
they know that is because of this cat.
25:43
This cat changed the world.
25:45
Let me explain.
25:50
You see, the kitten slaughterhouse at the US
25:51
Department of Agriculture wasn't just abusing animals here.
25:55
They were abusing animals over there in China
25:57
too.
26:00
We found out that, again, she was a
26:02
breeder and 22 of her kittens were slaughtered
26:04
and incinerated in those toxoplasmosis tests.
26:12
But we found out, working with whistleblowers, working
26:16
with Freedom of Information Act, working with our
26:18
investigative research, that the US Department of Agriculture
26:20
was also, for many years, rounding up cat
26:24
and dog meat in China at the wet
26:27
markets, bringing it back to its lab in
26:32
Maryland, where she was born and abused and
26:36
trapped, and feeding cat and dog meat to
26:41
the kittens in the lab.
26:43
So think about that for a minute.
26:46
Think about that for a minute.
26:47
Dog and cat meat abroad, taxpayer-funded animal
26:51
testing at home.
26:52
They were doing cannibalism experiments.
26:55
Well, in 2019, in March of 2019, right
26:59
before we shut down her lab, we blew
27:01
the whistle on this, exposed it.
27:04
It was on the cover of everything, Time
27:05
magazine, the BBC, NBC News, everywhere, and took
27:12
down her lab.
27:13
Her lab was shut down after the scandal.
27:16
She came out.
27:16
I adopted her.
27:17
But here's the thing.
27:18
In 2019, one year before the pandemic, White
27:22
Coat Waste investigators were on the trail in
27:25
China.
27:26
We were on the trail of what our
27:27
government was doing over there.
27:29
And immediately after saving her life and little
27:32
Petit's life, we asked, what else is our
27:36
government funding over there?
27:38
Because this can't be the only thing.
27:40
That's how we knew about the Wuhan lab.
27:42
And I believe it was 27 other labs
27:45
in China at the time, not just Wuhan.
27:48
And we had it.
27:50
We had the goods.
27:51
We had the information before anyone else because
27:53
of her.
27:56
And the world owes these cats a great
27:59
deal of gratitude for this expose.
28:01
We never would have known about that had
28:04
we not already been on the trail of
28:06
our government's animal abuse in China, because that's
28:09
what we're talking about, Jane, the Wuhan lab.
28:11
Even if it's innocent of starting the pandemic,
28:16
it is guilty of taxpayer-funded torture.
28:19
The Wuhan lab is an animal lab.
28:22
It is an animal testing lab that was
28:24
funded by our National Institutes of Health.
28:26
They were abusing bats, rounding them up, wild
28:29
animals, trapping them.
28:31
You know what happens when you trap a
28:33
wild animal in a cage and transport her
28:34
in thousands of miles?
28:37
They don't like it very much.
28:38
It's not very humane.
28:41
They were doing fear experiments with electro-shocking
28:45
animals, electro-shocking their paws.
28:48
They were working with humanised mice.
28:50
They were genetically manipulating mice to have the
28:55
lungs like humans, so they could do gain
28:58
-of-function research.
29:00
Gain-of-function research is animal research.
29:01
It's just code for animal research.
29:04
And they were abusing everything, primates, pigs, bats,
29:09
you name it.
29:10
That's why we got involved with it, because
29:12
it's taxpayer-funded animal testing.
29:14
And it's a campaign that's since changed the
29:16
world, because Wuhan is not alone.
29:20
Our government funds many animal labs around the
29:24
world.
29:25
Worldwide waste.
29:27
I'm very proud that the White Coat Waste
29:29
Project blew the whistle on all of this
29:31
and got all of this started, because just
29:33
a year after that, we put out another
29:38
investigation showing that we were also funding more
29:42
cat experiments in Russia.
29:44
Now, I want to jump into that.
29:46
We could talk about this, like I say,
29:49
several podcasts, but we've got another caller.
29:51
Sophia in California, your question or thought for
29:54
Anthony Bilotti, head of White Coat Waste.
29:58
Yes.
29:59
Hi.
29:59
Thanks for having me.
30:01
I am just thoroughly disgusted.
30:09
This is a holocaust against these little innocent
30:15
animals.
30:16
I'm a cat lover.
30:18
I have a few kitties of my own,
30:20
and just the mere thought of it sickens
30:23
me to the core.
30:24
This should be considered an act of terrorism
30:27
against animals worldwide.
30:29
It's so unnecessary, and the products that these
30:31
people are using for animal testing, animals don't
30:35
use them.
30:36
It's humans who consume these products and make
30:38
billions of dollars from their corporations.
30:42
It's got to stop.
30:44
There needs to be some sanctions in place.
30:47
What I mean is punishments.
30:50
They all need to be widely exposed, these
30:54
countries, their labs, everything.
30:56
Follow the money.
30:57
Expose them.
30:59
This should be a nonstop campaign against this.
31:02
There's no need for this.
31:03
In this day and age of technology, again,
31:07
they can replace all the animal testing with
31:09
technology that could do a simulation if they
31:12
have to.
31:13
Sophia, I want to thank you, and I
31:16
feel and hear your outrage.
31:19
That outrage is shared by millions of Americans.
31:22
Americans and people around the world, frankly, consider
31:25
themselves animal lovers.
31:27
Yet, it seems like it's carte blanche for
31:31
animal torture.
31:33
All you have to do is say the
31:34
word science.
31:35
One of the reasons, according to other experts
31:37
I've spoken with, is that the National Institutes
31:40
of Health is run by vivisectors.
31:43
Now, there was the Dr. Collins who resigned
31:47
or retired, and there was hope that the
31:50
person who replaced him might be less of
31:52
a vivisector.
31:54
In other words, if you want to stop
31:55
vivisection, don't put vivisectors in charge of billions
31:58
of dollars of funding.
32:00
Has there been any progress made?
32:03
We're in the 21st century.
32:05
We have organs on a chip.
32:07
I don't even understand why they want to
32:10
remain in this mediaeval state of doing these
32:14
backward experiments that are really 19th century.
32:18
This is not the 21st century.
32:21
I don't get it.
32:22
I would just be ashamed more than anything
32:25
else.
32:25
I would be filled with shame that I
32:28
lack the imagination or the intelligence to do
32:31
smarter experiments.
32:33
No question about it.
32:35
No question about it.
32:37
I mean, it's if you put Fox in
32:39
charge of the henhouse, right?
32:41
I mean, they're going to put vivisectors in
32:43
charge of stuff.
32:45
That's what they know.
32:46
That's what they do.
32:48
Why is it that every paper I see,
32:50
every single one has the same so-called
32:53
scientific paper from a vivisector, has the same
32:55
conclusion?
32:57
More research is necessary.
32:59
Translation, more money is necessary.
33:01
Well, follow the science is not what we
33:05
do here.
33:06
We follow the money, as the caller right
33:08
before us so appropriately said, follow the money.
33:13
That's what we do here.
33:14
And there is progress, Jane.
33:17
There is room.
33:18
I'm more optimistic than I've ever been.
33:21
I'm more optimistic than I've ever been because
33:22
I think this organisation has reoriented the focus
33:25
right back where it belongs, which is the
33:27
money.
33:28
Follow the darn money.
33:31
At the NIH, in appropriations this year, we're
33:35
working on language to hold them accountable, get
33:40
more spending reports, hold them accountable for that
33:43
money.
33:45
We've got legislation.
33:47
The PAW Act, I mentioned, the Preventing Animal
33:49
Abuse.
33:49
How is that doing?
33:50
How is that doing?
33:52
It's doing great.
33:53
Well, I mean, we're working to pass it,
33:56
but we just got it.
33:58
We just introduced that, Nancy Mace and Congressman
34:02
Moskowitz, but we're getting good bipartisan support, but
34:06
there's more work to be done.
34:07
We've got to pass the bill.
34:08
And so we're working both to pass bills
34:11
like that and also appropriations work, not just
34:16
at the NIH.
34:16
The NIH is the biggest, but at the
34:18
VA, the Veterans Administration.
34:20
We just cleaned out the lab.
34:22
We cleaned out the dog labs.
34:23
Then we cleaned out the cat labs and
34:25
we're working to get insurance as well with
34:28
appropriations language, which we passed back in March
34:31
to mandate, to eliminate that the VA eliminates
34:37
its dog, cat, and monkey tests, all of
34:40
them, all of them by 2026.
34:42
That had never happened before.
34:44
Let me jump in and show this.
34:46
US Secretary of Veterans Affairs.
34:49
Okay.
34:50
This is the guy in charge of Veterans
34:53
Affairs and you have a famous case versus
34:57
the Stokes Seven.
34:58
Explain.
34:59
Yeah.
35:00
Yeah.
35:01
So as we mentioned in the call earlier
35:04
before, we started with the dogs.
35:06
We started with the dogs and we won.
35:09
We knocked out the dog testing at the
35:11
VA in Los Angeles.
35:12
We knocked it out in Cleveland.
35:14
We knocked it out in Milwaukee.
35:15
We knocked it out in Richmond.
35:16
We annihilated it.
35:17
We zeroed it out.
35:18
Then we moved to the cats.
35:20
We cleaned out their cat lab in Los
35:22
Angeles.
35:23
We cleaned out the cat lab in Cleveland.
35:26
We cleaned out the cat lab in Louisville,
35:29
Kentucky for the VA.
35:31
So we had zeroed them out there too.
35:35
Then last summer, our investigators did a Freedom
35:41
of Information Act request and we exposed that
35:44
VA Secretary McDonough, a White House cabinet member,
35:48
had personally authorised another round, a new round.
35:52
He wanted to bring back another round of
35:54
painful testing on seven cats at the Cleveland
35:57
lab, the Stokes, the name of the lab,
35:59
the Stokes Veterans Lab.
36:03
We waged a very, very hard fought battle
36:06
over the last 12 months.
36:08
We ran ads that reached 4 million pet
36:13
owners and taxpayers.
36:15
We hundreds and hundreds of thousands of emails
36:18
and phone calls from coast to coast.
36:20
People in both parties were pissed off about
36:23
this.
36:24
Republicans and Democrats united to send McDonough a
36:28
message, do not bring this test back on
36:30
the seven cats.
36:31
These cats were going to be, they were
36:33
risking paralysis.
36:34
They were risking death, pain.
36:37
You've shown some images from that cat lab,
36:39
the little orange cat Copper.
36:42
There he is.
36:43
This poor cat was a victim at the
36:45
Stokes lab.
36:47
This cat underwent experiments that made him pee
36:53
blood.
36:55
They implanted devices in him via remote control.
36:59
He urinated blood via remote control and they
37:01
killed him.
37:02
They ended his life, but we ended their
37:04
money.
37:05
We ended their lab and we got justice
37:07
for Copper.
37:10
We beat McDonough.
37:12
We just announced victory and they admitted that
37:15
they cancelled the protocol and it's done.
37:19
Well, I got to say, yeah, not good
37:21
as an understatement when it comes to these
37:23
experiments.
37:24
You are extraordinary.
37:27
You're a tiny little organisation.
37:30
You have very little overhead.
37:31
I urge everybody support White Coat Waste.
37:36
I have donated to White Coat Waste as
37:38
an individual because I know the money goes
37:41
right into this action.
37:44
What you leverage with your pretty small organisation
37:48
is absolutely extraordinary.
37:50
So everybody get on whitecoatwaste.org and start
37:55
donating because they can't do it alone and
37:58
they need some funding.
37:59
Now let me go back to the whole
38:01
Wuhan thing because that's how you ended up
38:04
basically making global news.
38:09
You've broken down various experiments, but that puts
38:15
you on the map as it were.
38:17
So essentially, when this whole pandemic started, and
38:23
I'll never forget, I was watching CNN and
38:25
I saw a reporter actually show the wet
38:27
market and they were walking through the wet
38:30
market.
38:30
It was a breaking news story.
38:32
They think it started here.
38:35
It seems like a pretty obvious thing.
38:37
There's been other pandemics and zoonotic diseases that
38:42
have started in other wet markets.
38:46
And so I saw the images of that
38:47
horrible wet market in Wuhan with all sorts
38:53
of animals, domestic animals, live animals, dying animals,
38:58
faeces and pus and blood.
39:00
Of course.
39:02
But then to everybody's shock and horror, oh,
39:06
there's a lab also in Wuhan, China, where
39:10
they're doing what they call gain of function
39:12
experiments.
39:14
Tell us about that and how you broke
39:17
that story.
39:20
Absolutely.
39:23
Remember, right here, this little cat, she's not
39:26
a little cat, but she's my cat, and
39:28
Delilah here, and Petit, who's not with us.
39:32
They were breeding specimens at the USDA to
39:35
eat cats who were coming from those wet
39:39
markets in China.
39:40
Our government was forced feeding kittens in the
39:44
lab, cannibalism experiments, in these disgusting, heinous, and
39:49
wasteful toxoplasmosis tests.
39:51
We knew about the wet markets in 2019.
39:54
We exposed it.
39:55
We knew that labs occasionally in China were
39:58
even recycling spent lab animals and sending them
40:03
to the wet markets.
40:04
So there was even a connection between the
40:05
two.
40:06
And we knew, again, because our investigators immediately
40:10
turned its focus to foreign animal labs after
40:14
we saved Delilah, that the Wuhan Institute of
40:20
Virology and Wuhan University, there were two Wuhan
40:24
labs, as well as 27 other Chinese labs,
40:28
were all on the NIH payroll.
40:30
Well, you mentioned a moment in time in
40:33
early 2020.
40:35
In January of 2020, it wasn't even a
40:39
pandemic yet.
40:39
It was an epidemic in China, the local
40:42
thing.
40:43
Well, I was in the White House.
40:46
Justin Goodman, our senior vice president, who has
40:50
been on the show many times, he was
40:52
with me.
40:53
So was Louise Linton, an advisory board member.
40:57
We were at the Trump White House at
40:59
the time in January 2020, and we were
41:01
there to do a meeting with them about
41:03
the federal animal testing problem.
41:06
And we were meeting with them about all
41:07
the different things we work on, dogs, cats,
41:10
monkeys, et cetera.
41:11
But one of the issues on the table
41:15
in that meeting we had with the Trump
41:17
White House in January, two months before it
41:19
was a pandemic, was about this lab in
41:23
Wuhan and the other labs in China that
41:25
the NIH was paying for.
41:27
And we warned them and said, you see
41:30
these news reports about Wuhan?
41:33
Turns out it's on the payroll.
41:36
Unfortunately, they didn't do anything at the time.
41:39
And Justin and I were like, well, we've
41:41
got to get the word out about this.
41:43
This is like news.
41:44
I mean, people are getting sick.
41:46
It seems like it's going to come here
41:47
soon.
41:49
And in April of 2020, we fired the
41:53
shot heard around the world.
41:55
Over Easter Sunday of 2020, we put out
41:59
an investigation in the Daily Mail, with a
42:01
paraphrase in the headline here, but the US
42:03
government gives $3.7 million to Lab Week
42:07
Centre.
42:08
And that's how the world learned that we
42:13
paid for probably our own pandemic.
42:16
And it all comes back to animal testing.
42:18
It's all about animal testing.
42:20
Again, I believe that President Biden's FBI and
42:26
Department of Energy believe that that's where it
42:30
started from.
42:31
Not everybody believes that.
42:32
Most people in the country now do, not
42:34
everybody.
42:35
But look, it doesn't matter.
42:36
At the end of the day, like I
42:37
said, even if the Wuhan lab is innocent
42:42
of starting the pandemic, it's guilty of taxpayer
42:45
funded torture.
42:46
And that's why we got involved.
42:48
No other reason.
42:49
That's what we did, stop taxpayer funded animal
42:52
testing.
42:52
You would think that that would be a
42:54
wake up call.
42:56
You would think that it's just like with
42:59
climate change and animal agriculture.
43:01
You could make a very strong argument that
43:04
the US government, and this is a bipartisan
43:06
issue, doesn't matter what administration, it's just ongoing.
43:10
The Farm Bill goes for five years, and
43:13
they're negotiating it again.
43:15
They're subsidising the meat and dairy industry.
43:18
The average cheap burger that you get at
43:21
a fast food joint would cost so much
43:23
more if the US government didn't subsidise the
43:26
crops that these animals are fed, the animals
43:30
lost when there's hurricanes and storms and floods
43:34
and fires, the pandemics where the US government
43:37
subsidises just wiping, baking animals to death.
43:43
And yet they're talking about how they're fighting
43:47
fossil fuels while they're funding another leading cause
43:52
of climate change, which is animal agriculture.
43:56
So that's one side.
43:59
And then you have on the other side,
44:01
the government funding these labs that may very
44:06
well have been the source of the pandemic.
44:09
It's insanity.
44:10
Yeah.
44:11
You talk about absolutely insanity.
44:14
Stop the money, stop the madness.
44:17
That's our slogan for a reason.
44:19
It's madness.
44:20
Stop the money, stop the madness.
44:23
The fact that we might have even paid
44:25
for our own pandemic is bananas.
44:29
But to go back to you, you also
44:30
made another point about what else our government
44:33
is funding.
44:35
Well, Delilah's Lab, the USR Department of Agriculture.
44:42
I'll never forget when I found out that
44:44
they had a cat lab.
44:45
Justin Goodman called me.
44:46
I was in a concert with my parents
44:48
in New York City.
44:49
I had my phone on mute.
44:50
I was in Carnegie Hall and I was
44:52
listening to classical music.
44:54
And I came out and I saw like
44:58
15 urgent phone calls from Justin.
44:59
And I call him back and he's like,
45:02
you'll never believe this.
45:04
The US Department of Agriculture has a cat
45:07
lab.
45:07
And I go, say that again?
45:10
They have cats.
45:12
USDA?
45:13
Agriculture?
45:14
You mean like pigs, farm animals, right?
45:18
No, cats.
45:19
And I go, why?
45:21
Well, we had just gotten the Freedom of
45:24
Information Act request back.
45:27
And we learned from that investigation that they
45:31
were doing rotten meat experiments as a handout,
45:35
a corporate handout for the meat industry.
45:38
They were doing these rotten meat, feeding the
45:41
cats rotten meat, toxoplasmosis-infected meat, more government
45:45
waste.
45:46
And it was a corporate handout all along
45:49
that US taxpayers were funding.
45:53
Well, there's waste everywhere.
45:55
But that call I got from Justin that
45:58
day turned out to be more important than
46:01
I ever knew.
46:03
And I could have realised because if it
46:05
wasn't for that call, we wouldn't have dug
46:08
into the USDA.
46:09
If we didn't dig into the USDA, we
46:10
wouldn't have shut down the largest cat lab
46:12
in the United States federal government, save Delilah.
46:15
If we didn't shut that down, we would
46:17
never have exposed and uncovered that US taxpayers
46:21
funded the Wuhan lab.
46:23
If we hadn't done that campaign, we wouldn't
46:26
have exposed that the NIH was funding hundreds
46:28
and hundreds of other labs, spent $2 billion
46:31
all around the world.
46:32
If we hadn't done that, we wouldn't have
46:34
been able to expose and enclose the NIH
46:36
funding for cat labs in Russia, which we
46:38
successfully did.
46:39
We wouldn't have been able to pass the
46:41
first public policies to retire and release the
46:44
survivors in the federal government.
46:46
Just earlier this year, following my cat's passing,
46:51
we shut down an attempt by the NIH
46:53
to resurrect and rebuild the kitten slaughter house.
46:57
Five years later, they were trying to rebuild
46:58
it at the UC Davis.
46:59
We shut that one down too.
47:01
On what grounds?
47:04
On what grounds?
47:05
What does it prove?
47:09
Nothing, nothing.
47:10
They were doing those experiments, like I said,
47:12
for nearly 50 years.
47:14
Nothing to show for it, nothing at all.
47:16
Corporate handouts, taxpayer weight, nothing.
47:19
A lot of dead cats we got.
47:21
5,000 cats, dogs, and other animals in
47:23
that body count that were piled up.
47:25
Nothing to show for it, nothing.
47:26
Five decades of madness, and then they wanted
47:28
to rebuild it and resurrect it at the
47:30
University of California, Davis.
47:33
I just want to point out, we just
47:36
interviewed PETA the other day about their campaign
47:39
to stop a massive monkey lab that they're
47:44
trying to build in Georgia, in a little
47:46
town in Georgia.
47:48
The people of Bainbridge, Georgia have stood up
47:53
and said, hell no.
47:54
They filed lawsuits.
47:57
They want to bring in 30,000 monkeys.
48:01
It's just beyond comprehension, Anthony.
48:04
We're in the 21st century, and we're driving
48:08
some of these species into extinction, kidnapping them
48:12
from the wild.
48:14
I have to ask you, how are the
48:19
politicians in Congress reacting?
48:21
Because let's face it, most of the members
48:24
of Congress are just running scared.
48:26
They don't want to get involved in any
48:28
controversies.
48:29
I've experienced it myself.
48:30
You try to talk to them about an
48:31
issue and, oh, I got to run, I
48:33
got to run.
48:34
They just don't want to get pinned down
48:35
on anything.
48:36
How have you been able to get them
48:38
involved?
48:39
Because a lot of them, they just want
48:42
to get reelected, and they just want to
48:44
stay as far away from stuff like this
48:46
as possible.
48:48
Yeah.
48:48
Look, I had a head start in that.
48:51
Again, I went into my professional training in
48:55
my former life before I got ...
48:57
I learned the secret sauce.
48:59
I learned how Washington works.
49:02
Remember, I went into the professional campaign business
49:05
for a reason.
49:05
I wanted to learn how the system works,
49:09
and I wanted to learn what messages resonated.
49:16
I was also concerned when I started White
49:18
Coat Waste.
49:20
Let's be honest.
49:21
It wasn't a bipartisan effort, the effort to
49:25
battle to end animal testing.
49:26
Animal testing is an old issue in this
49:28
country.
49:28
It's been going on for many years.
49:30
In fact, Jane, it's been going on since
49:31
the reconstruction after the Civil War.
49:34
That's a long time.
49:36
But I wasn't too happy with the state
49:38
of the campaigns we were running.
49:40
They didn't look very bipartisan to me.
49:42
Let's be honest.
49:43
They were dominated by one side, and there
49:45
was no reason for that.
49:46
Power comes from the centre.
49:48
It doesn't come from the right.
49:49
It doesn't come from the left.
49:50
If you want to make impact in this
49:51
country on any issue at all, that's my
49:54
life's work, animal testing, one issue.
49:57
But if you want to make an impact,
49:58
you better find a way to recalibrate the
50:01
issue to the centre, to the 50-yard
50:03
line.
50:04
That means getting Democrats and Republicans, both sides.
50:08
That's how winning is done.
50:09
It's not done with one party, because if
50:12
you only got one party working with you,
50:14
good luck when the political winds blow.
50:16
I have no idea what's going to happen
50:17
in Washington.
50:18
Let me try to say this.
50:20
Yes.
50:21
Leaving electoral politics aside, I think you were
50:25
extremely clever in appealing to the traditional Republican
50:31
argument, which is reduce government spending and wasteful
50:37
government spending.
50:38
A lot of times it has to do
50:39
with other issues, but that is a mantra
50:43
and a theme, and you went in there
50:45
and used that.
50:46
Tell us about that.
50:47
Absolutely.
50:49
I wanted to get both sides.
50:51
I don't care.
50:54
We don't care as an organisation why members
50:56
of Congress shut down cat labs like hers.
51:01
I don't care.
51:02
I don't care if they love cats.
51:05
I would prefer it if they loved cats.
51:08
I got into this issue myself because I
51:11
didn't like animal abuse.
51:13
Remember, when I was 17 years old, I
51:15
didn't know about taxpayer funding, and I definitely
51:17
wasn't paying taxes at 17, income taxes, that
51:21
kind of thing.
51:22
Animal abuse is what got me into it.
51:24
Animal abuse is my motivation, but at the
51:28
end of the day, impact is more important
51:32
than intent.
51:33
Animals care about winning, and if I can
51:37
get Republicans or Democrats to do the right
51:40
thing, who cares why?
51:42
Who cares?
51:43
That's what it's about.
51:44
I agree, but how did you do it?
51:44
How did you do it?
51:47
Well, the answer is I did my homework.
51:50
Before White Coat Waste was a full-time
51:54
organisation, I spent a year on my own,
51:56
just lunch breaks at work, weekends, nights, putting
52:01
in an extraordinary amount of time doing my
52:04
homework.
52:05
I looked at public opinion polling.
52:08
I studied the issue, and I looked at
52:12
the arguments and the polling and the political
52:16
polling and the public opinion polling.
52:18
What motivates people to move their opinion on
52:22
this issue?
52:23
I also realised that, again, if I can
52:26
move them on the wasteful government spending message,
52:30
not only am I going to get them
52:31
to vote the right way in Congress and
52:34
build a new coalition that's, again, at the
52:36
50-yard line right down the middle, D's
52:39
and R's, but at the same time, I
52:41
would deprive the enemy of a vital source
52:44
of money, a vital source of funding.
52:47
When the money is gone, the vivisectors are
52:50
gone, too.
52:52
I realised we were onto something with this,
52:55
and that's how it happened.
52:57
Cut the waste.
52:59
I love it.
53:00
Again, very happy to report that we've already
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gotten a donation from Nilo Farr, who said
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she's donating.
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53:12
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53:16
Even if you're a $5 a month monthly
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53:23
How do I know that?
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Because I also run my own nonprofit, Unshamed
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TV, which is a 501c3 nonprofit.
53:32
I do not take a salary.
53:33
We are mostly volunteer run.
53:36
We also need your help.
53:39
I wanted to say that what our mission
53:43
is, is to cover stories that are not
53:46
getting mainstream media coverage.
53:49
Now, you broke through, Anthony.
53:51
You took the biggest story of our time,
53:54
the pandemic, and connected it to animal abuse,
53:56
and you made global headlines.
53:59
Unbelievable.
54:01
Fantastic work.
54:03
But so many of these other stories, and
54:05
people are even asking, why isn't this a
54:07
bigger story?
54:08
A lot of the smaller things, the big
54:11
stories that you've done in terms of shutting
54:13
down smaller labs or other labs, they're not
54:17
getting the headlines.
54:18
And that's why we cover that stuff.
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Yeah.
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And Nila Farsh said she donated $500 to
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Absolutely amazing.
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I want to thank you, Anthony.
55:17
You are doing incredible work, surgical strikes on
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this completely pathetic, unnecessary, wasteful, cruel, morally bankrupt
55:30
industry.
55:32
Together we can end it.
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Everybody, please visit white coat waste, get involved.
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