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"Scott-Goat" Episode 49 · DMV Mess Hall

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Hi folks. This is Rick dog.
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Walker the d.o.c. This is John Connor.
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I'm and you're listening to the mess hall with rally captain and
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tailgate 10, what's going on rally?
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How you been, man? Ted, Ted Ted I gotta tell you,
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man, I've been pretty good. I'm excited and I'll tell you
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why I'm excited. The reason why I'm excited is
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because we've got that true Moltres. 2022 season out of the
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way and we're looking up at 2023.
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Let's get it. I am looking forward to a bad.
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I'd say I'm excited, too. But not after all the bets I put
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in this past week in the playoffs.
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I think I put in, I hope mrs. Tailgates a lot in listening,
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but five bets It's and I hit one of them and man it was just like
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a snowball rolling downhill. I just kept trying to catch up
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with the next one and with the next one and I put in a bet for
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Joe burrow and what is it? It was Burrow and someone else
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to both throw a touchdown and Borough didn't up throwing one.
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I mean it just it got bad and finally I got right at the
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Cowboys Bucks game and I didn't put any money on the books to
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win even though I Hoping in my heart, they would, I just didn't
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have a feeling. They were gonna take the Cowboys
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down, but I did put money down on a parlor, for Tom, Brady, and
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Dak Prescott to both throw over one and a half touchdowns in
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that hit. So it got me close to being
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positive, but I'm hoping, man, this weekend, I can get back to,
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you know, in the green versus in the red.
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Well, I got to tell you that, I just wasn't feeling it because
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of the, some of the Elle's that I took during the season so I
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said I'm going to lay off a little bit.
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You know. I almost felt like calling that
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one 800 number. You know what I mean?
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All right. There are normally can't BET
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live. Yeah but I was in Maryland over
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the weekend and I put a bet in on all the wild card games and
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the BET was, you know, four different teams to win and I
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took the Vikings over the Giants.
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And those of you out there that that know that you can cash out
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ahead of time. So one point during that game, I
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could have cashed out that bet. If I hit it, it would have got
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me. $200. I could have cashed out for $12,
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then the Vikings went down and said, I could have cashed out
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for six dollars. The Vikings got close again, I
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could have cashed out again for like $14 and it just kept
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fluctuating. Like, you know what, let it ride
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ended up losing that damn thing. Like I actually got my cash back
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on it, just A bunch of other stuff and I wished I would have
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asked you instead, man. You know, you like anything was
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going good, because nothing went my way, other than that, very
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last game. Which in actuality didn't go my
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way because those damn Cowboys are still playing and you and I
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are sitting on a couch right now.
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But that's okay, that's okay to just deal plan because, you
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know, I was actually happy that they did take Tom, Brady down.
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I mean, I know this is gonna sound terrible but I was just
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tired of Tom. D.
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Alright, so, so they they did what they needed to do, they
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took care of him for me. So now the 49ers need to take
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care of Dallas for me as well and I'll be happy and I'll I'm
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still debating on if I'm going to take any bets for this game.
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I just don't know if I am or not.
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I just, I don't know. And one thing that also, so it's
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always one of those things like this did for me.
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How about putting on the tight end?
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He's gonna score a touchdown in any other time.
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Not kiddo, not killed for Cowboys.
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Okay? Baby's name.
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It doesn't matter what his name is.
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Yeah battle. And I said, man, you know what?
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I should I said, I said, no, I'm not going to do it and what
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happens? He scores a touchdown.
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So but I said, you know, scared money, don't make no money and I
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gotta tell you, brother, I'm scared, I'm shell-shocked.
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So I'm not gonna be doing anything, you know too much
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besides you know, I before the game before the game before the
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podcast. I told you that I'm training for
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this this this entry ride for those of you don't know I ride
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bicycles and the century ride is 100 miles for those who don't
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know. I mean I'm not trying to insult
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any one's intelligence but it's I've been training for that and
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that's where my focus has been and not on bed.
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So I will continue just to watch And not put any money down.
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You're smarter man because I put money on George kill to get an
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anytime touchdown score. Kidd, ol has had two touchdowns
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in December 15th, two, touchdowns against us on the
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24th. A touchdown.
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He had a touchdown in five straight weeks, right?
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Brock party, loves him George Kettle.
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Yep, he had two catches against the Seahawks with zero tutty's.
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So there goes my bet. So yeah, if anyone is wondering
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I don't pay attention to anything.
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I do when it comes to that and hopefully Mrs. T is not
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listening because I made a couple for this weekend on that
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Bills game and that's in, see game and some other ones to try
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and get back in the right because, you know, I heard that
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Jeff Bezos is out of the running for the Commander's so you know
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I got to get some dollars, right?
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So might be able to put a bit on this team because with him out
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of there, we all got a shot, we got a shot, we put our money
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together, brother. I mean, you know, my travel a
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business, your shift. Stuff and other things you got
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going on man we get we can do it brother, we can do it.
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I was shocked to hear man, I don't know about you.
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I was shocked to hear without JP Finley and then I got from front
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office Sports. It was in those that are
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wondering, is Thursday, the 19th at 3:00 that rally not recording
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this. I was surprised to hear that
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Bezos didn't even submit a bid. He just said, you know what?
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Screw it. I don't even need to put
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anything in because I'm the richest man in the world.
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Not yet, he did. I mean, so it's just is this,
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it's not too late though, is it? Those were the first round of
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bids, so the fact that was the first round of bids, they were
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due December 23rd. And I was also surprised to hear
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that. There were no bids higher than
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six point three billion dollars because Forbes, and a bunch of
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other articles out. There we are talking about the
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Commander's going for seven, seven and a half.
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Some people were saying billion? Well, no one put in a bit higher
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than six point three. So what worries me about that is
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the fact that basil It wasn't in there.
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I feel the price isn't going to get driven up.
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And why I'm concerned about that is, is that going to incentivize
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Dan enough to actually want to sell the team because he's
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hearing from outside sources that the commanders are worth
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seven billion easy and if he didn't even get close to seven
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billion, is he don't want to actually sell and that's what
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concerns me the most out of this story.
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And no Bezos isn't out of the Running by any means.
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But a lot of the rumbling is the Hawks are going to be up for
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sale eventually because their owner passed away in 2018, his
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sister I believe or someone in the family is handling, all of
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the estate with that and they feel eventually the Seahawks
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going to go up for sale. Anyone knows Bezos lives out
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there in Seattle area are kind of Amazon headquarters ish, so
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he could be holding off for that team makes and the fact that
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Snyder hates Bezos, maybe he just didn't want to.
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I hear him put together the highest bid to just get shot
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down. I don't know.
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Well, it could be like, back in the day, I called a chicken hawk
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in with eBay. You know, that bid, we get down
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a dog or two seconds and I throw my highest ba-bam and I'd be the
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winner, you know? Because I'm sitting there and
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I'm watching it and I'm watching it.
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And literally, like, maybe my dial-up.
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I got knocked off or something and all of a sudden it ended.
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And next thing I know someone put a bit in like, right at the
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last second that was his drive me crazy man.
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That's me baby. All day.
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If there's a Redskins pool cue that you own at your house right
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now that I've been on back in like, the early 2000s.
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I think I know that why I lost that actual auction, man.
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Oh man, he get to three seconds, five seconds of whatever
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brother. And I thought I'd be idiom.
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Boom and said you are the winner, huh?
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Yes indeed baby. All you losers skin, Take a Bow.
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All right. Yeah man.
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Oh that reminds me of a story mrs.
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Tailgate. And I went to a fundraiser for
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Leukemia Lymphoma, I was winning an award and we were at the aunt
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of downtown d.c. and it's a silent auction that you can bid
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from your cell phone. So I let her look at some stuff
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on the phone while we're sitting there eating and everything else
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during the award ceremony and she accidentally put a bid in on
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a Bar cart, like, $700 for a bar cart.
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Like, I live in DC, I don't got room for a bar cart at all, and
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that's be damn sure. I'm not going to pay $700 for a
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bar cart. So, I'm sitting here stress and
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sweating bullets the entire for. And I know it's going to a good
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cause and it's tax-deductible, blah, blah, blah, but I wasn't
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about to bid $700 on a damn bar cart.
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So, I'm waiting doing the opposite of what you were doing.
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Hoping, and praying that at the last minute, someone swept in
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and actually put a bit It down and thank God, someone did
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because you'd see a bar cart sitting behind me right now with
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my jersey stacked, on top of it because I got no place to put
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that damn thing. Hmm.
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Well thank you to that bitter who save me some cash because my
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season tickets one off and you know I that's $700 man.
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Oh bro. So you know I we don't want to
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talk about season tickets right now man.
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I got to tell you I you know I'm not even going to get into my me
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and my rep what happened between the two of us that will be for
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for a later. Joe, but it wasn't good.
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And that that all I'm going to say about that.
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You know, that's what minor email today.
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I'm right there with you. I know they're due tomorrow.
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Yeah. And I haven't renewed yet.
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I'm not saying I'm not going to renew.
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Yep, I just voice some frustrations on my end.
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The fact that the prices went up, the fact that it was a
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secret and that we're getting different perks taken away from
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us and just a bunch of other stuff.
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So I'm guessing maybe that's why I didn't.
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Get a invite to the new sports book that opens tomorrow at
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FedEx Field. Didn't get one either.
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Yeah, I'm starting to wonder if, you know, I know.
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They don't love me over there. I know they put up with me over
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there, but I'm, you know, they left me out of it, considering I
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have coffee and donuts in my parking lot from time to time.
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They know, I can see the stadium out my window right now and they
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surpassed me on it. And frustrated, in I know I'm
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most likely going to renew. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind
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of frustrated with them and everything going on right now.
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Especially with this whole ownership situation, we don't
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know who's going to own the team and JP Finley was hearing that.
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It could happen as soon as March and the new league year starts
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March 15th for those that don't know, that means that's when you
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can start signing for the agents and everything else, but the
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owners don't meet until March 27th, the owners have to vote
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and ratify whoever slider. So, Team two.
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If he sells the team or if he's selling a minority ownership and
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a bunch of the stories came out was he was selling the team or a
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majority ownership of the team, he could keep part of it, but
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that still House 2 has to get approved by the other owners and
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believe it or not. Man, I had a couple and also
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Redskins fans attack me for my thoughts on Snyder, selling the
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team and my Hope that he does sell the team.
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And I I was dumbfounded and I actually a muted, the text read
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that the person had going back and forth with me on my cell
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phone because I just got so angry.
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Well, van that personal. Wow.
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Oh yeah. That person have my cell phone
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number and they were going back and forth because they were
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upset about something I said on Fox 5, an interview, I did this
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past week and it was an anchor asking me If you could make one
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change this offseason one change to the Commander's, what would
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it be? And those who have never done
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live TV, you don't get these questions ahead of time.
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They just kind of hit you and I said, man, that's a tough one
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because I you know, there's so many changes.
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We got a lot of holes. We're going to talk about that
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over the next couple of weeks. He said, hint ownership And I
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said well yeah I mean that's one but that's out of our control.
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I didn't say that's out of our control.
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I said yeah ownership that be something nice to change but for
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me it was quarterback one, you know we don't have a QB one
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right now that would be it but the fact that I said ownership
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that person watched it and felt like texting me and attacking me
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after the fact. And sorry, I I appreciate Tanya
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Schneider, I truly do, she is an absolutely amazing person in
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amazing owner. The problem is, she cannot own
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this team when she's still married to Danny, they are
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co-owners. There was no way for her to buy
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this team or keep this team. So if the only way ownership can
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change means she isn't a part of anymore, then so be it.
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You know, you throw the baby out with the bathwater at times.
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Unfortunately that's what's gonna have to happen here
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because Because yeah, unfortunately we've been in this
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situation and they put the team up for sale and if they are true
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co-owners that should have been a discussion by both of them to
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put the team up for sale. So not knowing where the
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existing owners stand on this upcoming season is just kind of
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where I'm frustrated about, renewing season tickets where
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the team is on limbo and everything else, because we have
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no idea who's calling the shots who's going to approve
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contracts, who's going to approve coaching hires or fire?
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First or what? That's what just drives me.
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So insane about this whole process right now with the sale
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of the team. I think that a lot of people
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aren't looking at the behind the scenes, if you will, they're
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just looking at getting rid of the owner and thinking that
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everything else will be, you know, taking care of afterwards
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and you run into a lot of problems.
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When you don't look at the small things and there's going to be a
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lot of small minut details that need to be paid attention to.
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Yeah. The the big thing is the
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headline. Is hypothetically Dan Snyder's
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out? He's not the owner anymore.
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And who knows is the owner? Well now okay owner What do you
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know about these other things, you know, category, subsection,
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B, C, D and E, you know? Okay, you're the owner now, you
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got to deal with it, and Dad, you know man, what I've realized
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is no matter, you can try to make everybody happy and for the
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most part I try to be, you know, tree down the middle.
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I realize I'm not going to make everybody happy at the same
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time. I'm not trying to make people
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mad but I'll be doggone man. You can just say the sky is blue
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and all of a sudden people will come at you for any reason Under
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the Sun man. So Just keep doing what you're
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doing, you know, I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing and
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hopefully people can appreciate that for what it's worth, you
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know, problem in your Preacher, Man, you and I put ourselves out
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there with you. This podcast, were heavily
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active on social media. I go on TV from time to time.
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I'll be on Fox 5 tomorrow. Talking about everything and the
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Commander's new attendance and I get that.
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And I'm at the point where I honestly, I don't care about
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what other people think. It does not faze me.
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It could be someone I'm very close with and that's why people
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have opinions. I got my opinion on this team.
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You got your opinion on this team.
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People have their own opinions on ownership and there's some
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people that want Dan out just because of the fact that we
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haven't won for decades or because of all of the
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allegations that have been coming across from Congress and
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this and that I am just tired of the drama.
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I'm tired of all of the non-football stuff that
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Headlines I'm tired of our team, being a joke and that's not to
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say that's going to go away. That a new owner won't bring
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that with them but right now what I do know is it's up for
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sale and if it does get sold, all I care about are the
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individuals. I know that are still in that
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building that are good. People like Julie is a friend
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that they are taking care of miles over there that he's
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taking care of that. Those good people still have
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homes and aren't thrown out when this new regime comes in and
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I've been working on my resume to send them for, hopefully, an
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Institutional knowledge job for some of those people that take
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over because odds are they will know nothing about this
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franchise or this team, and if I can throw my hat in the ring to
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help, I would love to do that because a lot of the stuff
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that's been happening lately, with the whole Sonny Jurgensen
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and Frank, Herzog thing that happened for the Cowboys game,
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not having Right there and having fun fit with the dates,
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getting wrong on our commanders. Crest with the whole Sean Taylor
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statute debacle like all those small minor things.
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That seems that's I'm saying exactly a new owner isn't going
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to know or somewhat care about it first.
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It's those things that still matter to us as a fan base that
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needs to be focused on and it's frustrating to me that Jason
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Wright has not focused on that or still hasn't gotten that,
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right? Right?
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And I don't know what else we can do.
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And I think the issue is so owner, new owner comes in and
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like you said, that's small potatoes compared to Stadium
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contracts. A team deals, you know, the
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whole nine yards. Everything that comes along with
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running a team and being team, president or team owner.
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Rather you know, a lot of that is going to just fall by the
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wayside and I agree with you man.
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You know, when we Have reached out we get crickets or we get
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will look into it and then you never hear back and it's like
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you guys will understand. I'm not trying to be a part of
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the organization to be in the front headlights or whatever you
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want to call it. I feel as though we bring a true
19:23
educational wealth with us to help so that you won't have
19:28
these blunders that. Now, we are in the media for the
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wrong. Reasons again and you don't know
19:35
everything. I don't know everything, but
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I'll be doggone. It seems as though we would have
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known more than what was put out before.
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And you at some point in time, you got to relinquish the reins
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and put those feelings out there and make the phone calls to
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people this, the maybe maybe not to say, hey, I'm not as well.
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Yeah. You know, what, a true leader to
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me says, I'm not as smart on well-versed on this topic.
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Big, as you maybe. Can you give me a hand with
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that? That's what I would expect.
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That's computer troop with a cheerleader with a true leader.
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Does certain departments within the franchise have made those
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phone calls to me and I have seen improvements in regards to
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some of those things and out of respect for them, I won't say
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what those are on, you know. Yeah, recording it.
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But other instances it hasn't and there was, you know, after
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the whole show and Taylor debacle with the towels and
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everything else. In his jersey, retirement last
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year in fans getting Unless in a weeks notice, you know, I had a
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very long lengthy conversation with an executive over there.
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Explaining to them, why Sean Taylor means so much to this
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franchise and it was over an hour.
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And the fact that that conversation had to even exist,
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chose me that they don't know what's going on.
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And it's I would, let's be realistic.
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I would take a pay cut if I took a job there but I would be fine
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taking that pay cut because it means I could hopefully help us
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stay out of the headlines and I'm not trying to do it to, you
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know, make a bunch of cash and do this to that.
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It's right to be able to help facilitate a.
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I just us not being in the news. I'm going to be on Fox 5
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tomorrow. Like I said and they want to
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talk to me about the Commanders. Sales going up by 10%.
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So our season ticket sales or ticket sales in general.
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And if their student ticket sales this was an article from.
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I can't remember what new station came out, but the good
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news is season ticket sales for the Commander's wind up by 10%.
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Hmm, from the year prior. On the flip side of that article
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31 teams in the NFL sold 92 percent of their ticket capacity
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in their stadiums. 31 teams. The Commander's sold 86 percent
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of capacity at FedEx field. So yes 10% of ticket.
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Sales went up but you're still the dead last in the NFL in
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capacity and ticket sales and you know just going back and
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forth with other fans on social media today.
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Some of them didn't even realize that their season tickets, one
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up until a tweet. I sent went out there and
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Matthew Parris with the Washington Times.
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We're an article about it. The team never made an
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announcement that prices were going up.
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The only way people knew was that they looked at last year's
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invoice and compared to this year's invoice, right?
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And it was shady, because if you paid in full, you got a ten
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percent discount, which is your same price as last year, but if
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you pay in 0% payments throughout the year, 0% interest
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payments throughout the year, then you notice that your price
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went up. So it's just those little
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things, man, that are just It's used car salesman ish and it
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kind of drives me crazy. And I was up last night lying in
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bed thinking. That's five grand that I could
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use to go on a heck of an SV events dotnet trip with the
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missus you know something else and then come back in 2024 would
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maybe we got a new owner and a new head coach and maybe you
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know, something better on the wall.
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Well you know, It will bothers me out of this whole thing is
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and this isn't going to be a pity party on season tickets,
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but I have to agree with you. And I and one thing that I do
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know is they last year's for the 2022 season, they did a huge
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ticket Blitz to get season ticket holders and they're
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continuing that. And there we talked about it on
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one of the show's I believe to wear.
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Yes, they gave a lot of incentive for New season ticket
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members, season ticket holders, you know, or people to become
24:03
new season ticket members and whether it was free parking,
24:07
whether it was free food, whether it was free, whatever,
24:10
they threw it in. And I understood that because we
24:11
had a bad product on the field. We just did we?
24:14
And technically we're getting better, but our product on the
24:18
field still is lacking. So you you know, you've got to
24:23
give an incentive to get these people to come.
24:26
See, unfortunately, an inferior product It is getting better so
24:30
don't don't don't feel my email box up with on my my, you know,
24:34
my pride, my puke them DMS because we know it's getting
24:36
better but we're not where we need to be just yet.
24:39
So I said, well what are you gonna do for a person?
24:42
Such as myself, you know, and the people who've been here for
24:46
a while, well we'll give you a hat and I said a hat as a.
24:52
Do you really think that that's is incentive for me to to
24:56
realistically stay? The hat.
25:00
So now it's not fitted, but it's a nice hat.
25:04
I understand sarcasm on this sub.
25:06
Yeah, I understand. But, you know, but I mean, come
25:12
on, man. You know, we've got to do better
25:15
and so that's one of the issues that I had and then I had the
25:18
guy trying to pressure me and I'm saying, wait a minute, you
25:23
don't pressure someone, not to say I'm any better than anyone
25:27
else, but I've been around for. A minutes pressure tactics don't
25:31
work on. Someone who's been a season
25:33
ticket holder for, you know, 15 plus years.
25:37
It just doesn't maybe for someone who's trying.
25:40
You're trying to close the deal on?
25:41
Yeah, I understand pressure tactics, but but don't do that
25:44
and I said, man, you're making me resent, everything and the
25:47
only reason why and I'm gonna put it out there right now.
25:50
The only reason why I am going to renew is because I like my
25:54
seat where I sit. But what I do know is it will be
25:59
cheaper for me to individual games.
26:02
Just by I'm out right behind him and Float around the stadium.
26:05
It always like this, you know, and maybe next time, I do that,
26:08
I might just float around the stadium instead of having my
26:10
same seat, but I like that seat, you know?
26:13
So, that's the reason why I choose to go ahead and become a
26:17
season ticket member, but come on.
26:19
You guys would like, I would love for you guys to, you know,
26:21
give me a little incentive, little more incentive just pick
26:24
just, and just having my seat. You know, they incentivize this
26:28
last year by giving us customized commanders jerseys,
26:33
right? If you renewed by certain date,
26:36
you will get a swag bag and some customized commands jerseys,
26:39
it's Thursday, January 19th, the 2023.
26:44
They've sent me the invoice for 2023.
26:46
I still haven't gotten my customized Jersey and that swag
26:49
bag that they promised me last year, you know?
26:52
And that was another thing that I came back at them with is like
26:55
I still haven't gotten the season ticket holder present
26:58
that you guys said I was going to get this year for renewing
27:00
and now you're trying to get me to reel up again.
27:03
I mean it's just and the thing is I'm right there with you.
27:06
I like the people. You know, one of the guys missed
27:10
the game this year and I honestly it's like I want to
27:12
start calling hospitals to see if He was okay.
27:14
It's like we built a family in our section, right?
27:17
And it's the only reason why a majority of season ticket
27:19
holders, don't bounce around. It's because of the people, you
27:22
closer because it is a bad investment being a season ticket
27:25
holder for this team because the team usually tanks towards the
27:28
end of the season and the beginning of the Season, we do
27:31
good in the middle and I got a clip on that supply for you
27:33
guys. So you can see why Ron thinks we
27:35
have a slow start but it's just that aspect of it and I'm going
27:41
to renew. I just so frustrated with him
27:45
right now, and the fact that their deadline that they set up
27:48
is, you know, in less than 24 hours.
27:51
That's great. That's your deadline.
27:52
But there aren't people beating Down the Walls to renew and get
27:55
season tickets this year especially where the way
27:57
everything is in limbo. Maybe if you know we had a new
28:00
owner that people knew about today but the fact that it's not
28:04
going to happen until March and tickets are do now.
28:07
Good luck because I would love to see who actually decides to
28:10
To renew that isn't a die-hard like you were me.
28:14
Yeah. Good luck.
28:17
How it'll be interesting, but something that we do know is
28:21
Scott Turner won't be here and they let Scott go so Marty and
28:28
Ron had their postseason press conference.
28:31
Last, I want to say, it was Monday was maybe actually I
28:34
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29:00
But during that press conference, they asked, what did
29:04
you think of the job Scott? Turner did?
29:07
And Ron's answer was, well, he did his job, that was pretty
29:12
much the gist of it and next thing, you know, 24 hours later
29:16
After Everyone's an uproar Scott gets fired.
29:20
How much of just the Commander's issues this season?
29:26
Do you blame on Scott Turner? He gets, I'd say, Probably. 40%
29:40
40. What is old same out of 100%?
29:42
Yes, out of 100% and take Dan Snyder out of the equation and
29:46
Thomas letter of equation. They never, would they never
29:49
were a part of it because they don't want you to answer.
29:51
They don't win ball games. So so I would say that it's got
29:55
gets about, I'd say, 40 to 50% and simply because of His play
30:04
calling. And he didn't, I don't feel the
30:07
that he maximized what he could have done.
30:11
And I feel as though, you know, When after the game is over and
30:18
I don't know what happens afterwards, but you know, why
30:21
wasn't Ron saying, hey, why wouldn't we do this or why?
30:24
When we do that, you know, and I heard that the press conference
30:28
with you know, Ron and and and but I'm yeah.
30:35
And as far as this whole running running the ball thing.
30:40
I that's not what you, you didn't bring people in to do
30:45
that. I mean, you brought Carson Wentz
30:48
in because he was a pastor even though he didn't he, when he
30:52
when he could pass. I mean we know he can throw the
30:55
ball but he didn't do well I don't think the ball he missed a
30:58
couple of check towns and that Browns good but I know what you
31:00
mean. Yeah.
31:01
You know and we brought Fitzpatrick in because he was a
31:04
pastor. He was a gunslinger.
31:07
So you've gone against what you said.
31:09
And so hold on top of that. You draft.
31:11
Your Han Datsun with your first. Pick your tray back.
31:15
It was a wide receiver. And for just that go back some
31:18
of our listeners might not have heard the press conference Ron
31:21
Rivera and Martin met. You said they want to be a run
31:23
first him that they want to run to everyone pass so to run
31:30
players, every one pass play. So they want a predominantly
31:34
just run that ball until you can beat another team down and
31:38
that's what they want to do. And everything you're saying
31:43
contradicts what they've done over the past.
31:46
Past to off Seasons. With the additions are brought
31:49
in bringing Curtis Samuel in here even though the use Curtis
31:52
as a running back. Sometimes, you know, he's a wide
31:54
receiver and just seeing everything that happened, I'm
31:58
right there with you. This was actually a quote of the
32:01
press conference on why they want to be a run for scene.
32:05
For both of you, you have said, consistently, you want to be a
32:10
run first team. Is that because of the Personnel
32:14
you have at quarterback or is that a philosophical belief?
32:17
Because most of the league seems to go the opposite way.
32:21
I think it's a philosophical belief.
32:23
I mean for me it is. I've been involved with that.
32:27
I think a big part of it is that, you know, you've got to be
32:29
able to help your defense as well.
32:32
You know, if you look at a lot of the teams that do end up at
32:36
the end where they are most of them rush for over 1,000 yards
32:40
as an offense. Well, over 1,000, I should say
32:44
and and I think they control the tempo of the game, and I think
32:48
that's what we need to do to win football games.
32:50
We We need to control that tempo of the game, you know?
32:53
I do believe in a to back system.
32:55
You know, I've had success with that and I believe we had some
32:58
pretty good success with it, you know.
33:00
Unfortunately, both those young men for us ended up on injured
33:03
reserve. But well, I'd be Rebels continue
33:06
to be robbed. Just didn't finish the last
33:08
game. But you know, they're they're a
33:10
talented group of guys and we've got to be able to use them.
33:14
You know, we've got some talented positions.
33:16
We've got to be able to get the ball in those guys hands.
33:22
I'm right there with you on Scott, getting 40, 50 % of
33:26
blame. I, I put actually know what 60%
33:31
on Iran because he is the end-all be-all with the team.
33:35
He is in charge of player personnel, and he's in charge of
33:38
his staff and the other 40% on Scott Turner because Scott
33:43
didn't Put Andrew Norwell and Trey Turner and offensive line
33:48
that's Ron's fault. Yeah.
33:50
Scott didn't bring in Carson Wentz that, you know, we heard
33:55
press quote from Ron said. He's the bleeping guy that, you
33:58
know, watch the tape and everything else.
34:00
And looked at the analytics, it was his choice to bring in
34:03
Carson here in to Miran constructed this team.
34:09
But yet he constructed this team to contradict what?
34:12
He, and Martin make you want the identity that seemed to be and
34:15
it was Was too long a clip I cut Martin mayhew's part out of
34:18
that. Martin said after Ron talked
34:22
that, you know, they're basically a products of their
34:26
experience in the NFL. And Martin said that his most
34:30
successful time in the NFL is when he was with the Redskins
34:33
and we were a running first team back then, we're talking the
34:37
1980s, you know, it's just it's that old school mentality.
34:43
That's It reminded me of when I was looking the press
34:46
conference. You remember that movie with
34:48
Brendan Fraser and see? No man.
34:51
Okay, we're you know, he basically gets, I guess he's a
34:57
caveman that gets defrosted or just comes out of the Ice Age
35:01
and he's walking around California, where the hell it
35:04
is, and everything is new to him, that to me is Martin, may,
35:09
he would Ron Rivera looking at the Modern NFL, looking at
35:13
what's teams that are currently in.
35:15
The postseason are doing the NFL has changed its rules and Ron is
35:20
part of the competition. Petition committee, the rules of
35:23
the game favor passing offenses. You can't touch a wide receiver
35:28
past six yards, Russell's going to get a first down for illegal
35:31
contact. But yet, you want to be a run
35:34
first team where you have to get everything right in order to win
35:39
that way. And that's what just is.
35:44
So old and Antiquated in this logic, in my mind, I wouldn't
35:50
have a problem. I actually don't have a problem.
35:54
What he said, I have a problem of how they put it together if
36:01
we had the line that he had in the 80s.
36:05
Oh, I would have a problem with it at all with the Hogs and then
36:08
the diesel, I wouldn't have a problem with it but we weren't
36:12
constructed that way. So we are far, far away from
36:16
that goal of what he's trying to say now who they going to bring
36:21
in in the offseason and lb for a later show, but we're going to
36:24
bring it in the offseason. You bring in some studs that can
36:30
construct the line. The way that you say you want
36:32
it, then maybe I can. I can believe what you're
36:34
telling me right now, I can't believe what you're telling me,
36:37
and I agree with you as well. Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a
36:41
Passing League. It's just you have to play damn
36:48
near perfect football to try to grind out drives.
36:52
You need to be able to strike. You need to be able to, you
36:56
know, win in a shootout on majority of the games.
37:00
In the Wildcard Weekend, hit 60 points that's and we couldn't
37:07
get 17 points a majority of the time.
37:10
So you know, it's just things like that, that were
37:14
Frustrating. And I feel that the mindset that
37:17
they have, even if they had the workhorses to do it, even if we
37:21
were the Tennessee Titans from tear years ago with Derrick,
37:25
Henry, just running a storm up and down the field.
37:28
What are they get them. It didn't get that far in the
37:32
postseason. You got to do the vision right
37:34
now. Think that's about it.
37:35
That was a yeah that was it. And I just I don't think that is
37:39
a a recipe for success in the modern NFL and they want to
37:47
bring in an offensive coordinator.
37:49
They've interviewed a bunch of people and they're continuing to
37:52
interview a bunch of people. I just don't know what offensive
37:55
coordinator worth anything that's going to want to come
37:59
here. And the only reason I'm saying,
38:00
Saying that is Ron has one year left on his coaching contract.
38:05
You have a new owner that is hypothetically.
38:09
Going to buy this team in the next year or two.
38:12
So why would a guy throw his hat in the ring?
38:15
When you might not have a job next year and you get passed up?
38:21
And yes, there are only 32 of them in the NFL but the grass
38:26
isn't always greener or something.
38:28
I'd like to tell people that I Mentor in the field.
38:30
I meant just because they're going to give you more money,
38:32
doesn't mean in the long term. It's going to work out for your
38:35
bank account. Because how is that job actually
38:37
going to turn out if you're not thinking, when you're down the
38:40
road, if you're thinking three, four, five years down the road,
38:43
and to me, that's what some of these coordinators are thinking
38:46
that are flat-out. Telling them.
38:47
No, I appreciate you thinking of me but I don't want to interview
38:50
for your job. Yeah, because like you said next
38:56
year new owner could say. Now cleaning house everybody
39:01
goes, and this is why I want and and truthfully, you know, it's
39:07
even though it's unlikely it could still happen.
39:12
It really could a new owner could come in and say, I don't
39:15
want that, you know, I want I want the stadium painted pink,
39:21
you know. We we've seen being in the
39:22
military, you know, you get a new company commander who comes
39:25
in and, or a new base commander and the old, the base was
39:31
running fine with the with the old base commander, the new base
39:34
commander companies, why they do that.
39:37
I don't like that. I'm going to change it and I
39:39
everybody's like you're changing it.
39:41
Oh my God. So yes, that is a possibility
39:46
man. And I agree with you, you know,
39:49
no one wants to uproot your family and move and now here you
39:52
are. Again, having to possibly move
39:54
again, because you just don't know there's uncertainty, you
39:58
know, there's a lot of it and that's, you know, I'm, I think
40:04
it was Pete. Hey, Leon be mentioned family.
40:05
He called 2023 a gap year or it might have been on there
40:09
watching football, Talk podcast, that it was a gap year if we
40:13
could have Terry McLaren and some of our studs just Kind of
40:18
take it easy next year and, you know, save themselves for 2024,
40:23
when we're actually really going to make a run at things and
40:25
things are going to be changed, but obviously we know that's not
40:27
the case. And it's frustrating because
40:30
you're wasting the years, you have with the assets.
40:35
You have, you know, the team took the fifth year option on
40:39
Montez sweat, but they didn't take the fifth year, optional,
40:42
and Iran pain, you know, it's that lack of foresight and Now
40:47
you're in a situation where, what do you do this offseason
40:50
and you know, Ron himself said that they were going to take a
40:54
big step forward this year. Well this was actually a
40:58
question, he got to ask in a press conference about that big
41:02
step forward. Ron.
41:04
Can you understand? You 17 games, your first year,
41:07
you went 7 games, your second year, eight games, the third
41:10
year. Can you understand that fans
41:12
could have a hard time seeing how that, how is that a big step
41:16
forward? How did you make a step forward
41:18
when the wind total is essentially the same?
41:20
I would like to say the play of our players, you know, we had
41:24
some extraordinary circumstances and situations my first year my
41:29
second year. Obviously, it was probably the
41:30
most disappointing, but this year, you look at some of the
41:33
things that we did and you, To say, you know, they showed that
41:35
they can come out and fight and play hard, you know I'm saying?
41:39
It's not easy, it's not simple coming back from where we were
41:42
in during the things that we've endured you'd like to believe
41:46
that people understand that, you know, somebody getting shot and
41:50
not playing for four games and he was a big part and we tried
41:53
to show that in the preseason. You think?
41:55
Okay. Maybe you know, and that's all
41:58
part of it but again I really do think that you look at some of
42:01
the things that we've done. You look at the youth on this
42:03
football team. Team how these young guys have
42:05
played took the number of young guys.
42:06
We put on the football field at played for us have played
42:08
meaningful minutes in big games and Wong.
42:12
You like to think that shows that they are growing that
42:14
they're developing the understand what it takes now.
42:18
So I'd like to think that that shows something it's not always
42:21
on what's on the one loss record that indicates whether you've
42:25
grown a little bit or not. It's been my experience that
42:29
winning certain types of games are important and I think We did
42:34
some of those things, you know, we've done it a couple of times
42:37
where we beat the most, you know, the the last undefeated
42:40
team in games that we weren't picked even come close.
42:44
We've handled those types of moment.
42:45
So I think there's been some growth.
42:47
I'm not saying were there. I'd like to think that we have a
42:50
chance to get there. I thought last year, we have a
42:52
chance to take a step. And I do think we took a step.
42:55
Am I disappointed? We do get in the playoffs.
42:56
Darn, right? I am, we had an opportunity to
42:58
control our own destiny. We didn't do the things that we
43:00
needed to at the right time, you know?
43:03
But there were some extent. You know, some some things that
43:05
we can't control. So the best thing we can do is
43:07
control what we can and that's the growth and development of
43:09
our players. I just, I feel it's a cop out,
43:14
man. It just saying that it doesn't
43:17
matter, but this was a clip from October 3rd of an interview that
43:21
Ron did was Scott Abraham. So, take a listen to this one.
43:30
How would you evaluate yourself in the coaching staff in terms
43:32
of what you can do better? And how you kind of helped turn
43:35
this around? Well, we have a good feel for
43:37
what we got to do Scott, I'm not going to put that type of stuff
43:39
out there because I don't need people judging and gauge it,
43:42
okay? At the end of the day, what it
43:44
really comes down to is whether or not we're winner or loser.
43:48
Whether or not we're winning and losing is what it comes down to.
43:51
I mean you can't lie, the clip is out there, he said it himself
43:56
earlier this year and he actually got on Scott forth, you
43:58
know that it's your 3, we're going to take a big step forward
44:02
in year three. You were seven and five, the
44:06
commanders were seven and five on November 27th, with five
44:10
games, left, in the season, and six weeks, left total, you had
44:14
to buy in there and you finish 881 you and I laughed about it,
44:18
we joked about it. You know, let's buy plane
44:21
tickets to San Francisco and Minnesota because we got an 86
44:25
percent chance of making the playoffs.
44:26
And we're either going to be playing in San Francisco or
44:28
Minnesota, and Southwest gives you your money back.
44:32
So we can just do that and we'll have Our plane tickets set so we
44:35
don't got to worry about booking them the week of when we find
44:38
out who we're playing. And you get one more game, you
44:45
play yourself out of the playoffs when you literally have
44:48
5 chances to do it, it's just hmm.
44:52
And yet you took a big step forward and then you have the
44:55
nerve to blame. Brian Robinson, being shot,
44:59
didn't like that. No, not at all.
45:02
And it's just, it was so frustrating to hear that during
45:06
the press conference and only reason I'm going over now
45:08
because I know was not a lot of our listeners, Into those press
45:11
conferences. And, you know, I'm jealous of
45:14
you guys not having to hear some of the crap that we've got two
45:16
here, because we're covering it for you guys.
45:19
But it's just what do you blame or who do you blame for us?
45:25
Missing the Playoffs seven and five to finish eight eight and
45:29
one. Where did it go wrong?
45:32
Well, I damn sure ain't blaming the kid who got shot.
45:35
Not bringing him up. I'll be dog gone man.
45:39
Gee It comes down to the big toe and I he's the head coach and he
45:47
says that it's not all about W's and L's.
45:51
I'm sorry. The fanbase believes.
45:53
It is about W. Is an nl's we've heard for so
45:56
many years, you know, winning off the field or you know, it
46:02
looked good. But no, it doesn't feel good.
46:05
We know the difference and like you said, seven and five eighty
46:08
six percent chance that That felt good that going on a
46:13
four-game winning streak, that felt good.
46:17
But to have it, squandered did not feel good and then to try to
46:22
tell me but we had other things that made up for that.
46:25
No, that does not feel good. It just doesn't.
46:29
So I he's the big toe and so he gets the blame.
46:34
It's like if a core if the team loses the quarterback because
46:39
he's the head, he gets the loss, that's just how it is.
46:43
So you got to blame him and you No, you got to go back and say,
46:49
okay, well what we saying in the meetings after these games?
46:54
You know why weren't the guys not the guys but you're a
46:59
coaching staff seem like why weren't they you know?
47:02
Why wasn't Scott calling the plays that need to be called in
47:05
the right situations and I'll go back to what everyone knows what
47:10
I'm about to say. You probably know what I'm about
47:12
to say, fourth and one Fourth and one.
47:17
Is that ring a bell? Oh yeah.
47:19
Sweet. You want to speak to us?
47:21
Come on man. Come on there's been many times
47:25
when we've had fourth and one and they do something stupid you
47:28
try to pass the ball or instead of just trying to run it up the
47:31
gut. You know, and I'm actually
47:33
surprised that it was it was fourth and one of the goal line
47:36
and what it costs to do. I'm actually surprised they
47:38
caught a quarterback sneak and he build over the top because I
47:41
I knew they were going to do like the like the Seahawks
47:43
thought slant or something. Stupid like that.
47:45
Yeah. I just thought they were going
47:46
to do it. We're talking about Browns game
47:48
right there, where that Carson boy?
47:49
But yeah, no, I hear you and it's just, but that was their
47:52
identity. Remember they wanted to be a run
47:54
first team but yet there's a way to be a run for seen being a run
47:59
first team out of shotgun on fourth and one makes absolutely
48:03
no sense. You got to put your guys in
48:06
situations where it's about percentages and where it's going
48:11
to be a highly advantageous play.
48:13
It's about matchups and scenarios.
48:15
And for me, it went wrong from a play calling perspective from a
48:20
gameplay perspective, and Ron takes his hands off and he gives
48:24
it to his guys, he lets don't worry.
48:27
I don't really know what Ron does but he lets Del Rio focus
48:30
on the defense and he lets Scott focus on the offense.
48:33
They had three weeks to prepare for the giants, three weeks
48:37
those games and you couldn't get a single win out of there, you
48:41
know, it was a fourth and one once again on your own 35-yard
48:44
line and you decide I'd to go forward with a quarterback sneak
48:49
with Taylor heinicke. You don't even have your Bruiser
48:51
back in there that got shot earlier in the year.
48:54
You don't even have until you a Gibson in there, you know, and
48:56
you just do those things. And it's just it's what
48:59
frustrates me with how we ended the season, but this was
49:04
actually a question of why, the team starts off?
49:07
Slow? Because Rivera's teams here,
49:11
since they've been here, traditionally start off.
49:12
Slow. And this was Ron's answer as to
49:14
why Also as part of your self-evaluation, the last two
49:20
years, you've got enough to slow starts.
49:22
How do you self-evaluate OTAs training camp preseason or what
49:28
do you think? You might look at when that
49:30
regard, I think one of things that we have to take a look at
49:33
is the injuries coming out of camp.
49:35
We had a lot of soft tissue injuries this year and it's
49:37
really the first time so far. The one major correlation that
49:41
we found that was one of the warmest Summers we've ever had.
49:43
And so we probably have to take a look at how we Practice when
49:46
the temperature goes up, that's probably one of the.
49:49
One of the, one of the things, one of those things that were
49:51
most certainly going to look at is working with another team.
49:55
You know, I go back to some of the experiences I had in my
49:58
previous start our stint, we had a couple of, we actually did it
50:04
three times and two of those three times, we came out and
50:07
played really good years so it's something we're going to take a
50:09
look at also in this offseason. So we had a slow start because
50:14
it was hot outside. That just tells me that he
50:17
listens to the DMV Miss Hall because we told our listeners,
50:23
we told the staff, you got to put somebody else in another
50:27
color. You don't form against these
50:29
guys and see what they truly are.
50:31
You're not going to get it from player on player of the same
50:34
team. So you heard it.
50:37
We preached it all preseason, we preached, it All the first
50:42
couple games and now look what's happening.
50:46
So thank you, Ron, for listening to the DMV mess hall, and
50:49
changing up your coaching tactics and bringing in a
50:52
another Squad. And I'm sorry.
50:57
I lived in Texas. I played High School football,
51:02
in Texas, 104 degrees and we practice two-a-days.
51:09
Now, I know High School football is not professional football,
51:12
but I'll be doggone bro. We did it then and he's college
51:16
kids are doing it. Now that I know that the NFL has
51:20
gotten softer by fighting guys, all include who played college
51:24
ball, say all colleges block part of the pros, I'll be
51:27
doggone. You got to instill that same
51:29
mentality. T.
51:31
You have to instill that same mentality because because steel
51:34
sharpens steel or iron sharpens iron where ever you want to hide
51:38
whatever verbiage you want to put on it and allowing a guy to
51:43
just know. He's got to go play through that
51:45
because that's going to make him tougher for later on in the
51:48
season. So I agreed and you know it's
51:53
just bad example right now. There's a carnal.
51:55
Didn't do well this season but they practice in 103 degrees in
51:58
Arizona. You know, there are teams that
52:01
practice in South Florida. Where do you think South Florida
52:04
is in August guarantee that we're little bit colder than
52:08
they are down there? You know, it's just Excuses.
52:13
There's a lot of them, but last last year, during the owners
52:17
meetings, in March, Ron was quoted saying that he wants to
52:21
play against another team. Really?
52:24
What it came down to was nobody wanted to come here, and you
52:29
have to have another person to dance with when you make a trade
52:33
in the NFL draft or trade in general or a team and training
52:38
camp that you want to practice against and They burned their
52:43
Bridge with Buffalo. The way they handle the JD
52:45
mckissick. Yes, it right.
52:46
Right. There were going to say, well,
52:48
maybe they'll practice Buffalo. Well, the fact is we play the
52:53
Ravens every year in preseason. Why are we practicing against
52:58
them? The Ravens are just continually
53:01
in the playoffs. Yeah, they just got knocked out
53:05
because Lamar Hunt lead aside pulling okeydoke and give up a
53:08
98-yard, fumble. But they're always in the
53:11
postseason. And they're right up 95, why
53:14
aren't you practicing against them?
53:15
Why aren't you holding camp in Annapolis at, you know, the Navy
53:21
stadium and having something there, which is closed between
53:25
both teams and you know you do a military theme because you're
53:28
the Commander's now, whatever the hell it maybe it's just
53:31
different things that there's always an excuse after the fact
53:36
and we'll see. Come next training camp if they
53:38
actually are practicing with another team because you know
53:43
better be sure I'll save this cliff and all those are going to
53:45
say this clip of Ron saying what we need a you know it was hot
53:48
outside and we also are going to practice against someone else
53:51
and I'm hoping that means that they're really going to focus on
53:54
next season they have to and if even if it means it people
53:59
bringing signs to training camp You gotta do it, you gotta do
54:07
it. And I know that temperatures
54:08
temperatures are going to flare because it's hot and the whole
54:12
nine yards. But that's all about football.
54:14
You know. That's how you build camaraderie
54:16
with your teammates I mean look at Josh Allen picking a fight
54:21
during that playoff game and his linemen running up there and
54:24
getting this back. You know it's just I don't know.
54:26
I was down in a training camp in Richmond when a fight broke out
54:30
with the Texans that year. Oh yeah I was able to yeah you
54:33
know it's just different. Stuff like that.
54:34
It's, you know, I'm sorry, people think, oh, we don't want
54:36
to practice with the team because somebody can get hurt.
54:39
Come on, give me that soft. Crap, get the hell out of here.
54:42
Someone can get hurt all the time.
54:43
It's the NFL. It's pro football.
54:45
Yeah. But if you want them to get
54:47
better, you got to play against other team.
54:49
There's a reason why spring training baseball.
54:52
They play baseball against other teams.
54:57
It's not just in Squad scrimmages here and, you know,
55:00
there's a, there's a lot to it, there's a lot that's team has to
55:03
work on. And you know, one thing that
55:06
they feel that they have set up is qb1.
55:11
So it came out that with all of these offensive coordinators
55:16
that they are potentially interviewing for the job.
55:18
They're saying, well, Sam Hal's you to be qb1 next year.
55:23
I don't think that's really the case.
55:25
The thing is Sam is the only quarterback that is on the
55:29
roster right now. Carson is going to get cut.
55:33
And Taylor's and unrestricted free agent and is Taylor going
55:37
to be here. Who knows?
55:38
You know, he's a Scott Turner disciples who does were
55:41
Scotland's if he's going to go there or what's going to happen?
55:43
But Sam is the only one that is on the roster next season.
55:48
Do you really feel? And this was actually a question
55:50
that we got asked by one of our listeners.
55:54
I think this was Rafael Rubio. Asked said, do you think Sam
55:59
will remember what he did in the Cowboys game and take his
56:04
education to spring training? I guess he means OTAs and
56:08
through the next game to September, do you think Sam is
56:10
going to be able to remember everything he went through
56:14
between now and OTAs and training camp?
56:20
I'd have to say, yes, I'll say yes, you he'll remember?
56:23
Because he did it in North Carolina to become a pro.
56:28
And if we really look at it is game, That he played in college
56:36
transferred to this last Dallas game and he got it done with his
56:41
legs. He made some good reads and he
56:43
made some bad reach, its expected.
56:46
I think the fan base. I think the fan base did
56:49
realistically, wouldn't mind hanging their hat on how well it
56:53
happened. I don't know, but I think that
56:55
they wouldn't mind hanging their hat on them the same way they
56:57
didn't mind hanging it on Taylor to me.
57:00
He's a step above Taylor. He's A step above and I think
57:05
that giving the right guidance that he could be an okay kid but
57:11
you got to you got to you just can't say.
57:14
Okay we've got it in now. We're set.
57:16
No youyou got to to revamp that offensive line and we've talked
57:21
about it in awesome so I don't want to even continue them but
57:24
you've got to you've got to revamp that off as a lot.
57:26
I think that we would have won more games than we had a better
57:31
offensive line. Oh great.
57:33
Thousand percent. Yeah, I think so.
57:36
So that so that's why we you said forty percent on Scott,
57:40
6:00 60% on Ron. Well, Ron now you there's no
57:45
excuses now. Ron There really are no excuses.
57:50
So what do you guys want to do in the offseason to bolster the
57:54
line to really bolster that line to give whether it's how or
57:59
whether it's whoever it is, I don't care whoever it is to give
58:03
them an opportunity to be great because you have let them down.
58:08
They can't be great with the line that you're giving them.
58:10
Yeah. And this was actually Martin
58:12
mayhew's response with his plan at quarterback during that press
58:16
conference. What is your planet quarterback?
58:19
And do you expect Carson Wentz to be with the team next season?
58:23
Yeah. We're currently working through
58:24
all that and having discussions with still in that kind of
58:27
season review process over the next few days we'll be talking
58:31
about all those things and trying to sort that out.
58:34
We have to talk about budget but we have to spend how we want to
58:38
allocate resources evaluate depth in terms of draft and free
58:41
agency where those positions are and where we think we can add
58:45
Talent. So we're working through all
58:47
that right now. And it came out after the press
58:52
conference, a couple days later that they're telling other OC
58:56
candidates that Stan was qb1. And I don't think that means
59:00
that Howell is the starter next season.
59:03
I think that means that they have to tell these o.c.
59:07
coordinators. You know, if you've ever gone
59:09
for a job interview or listeners out there, they'll give you
59:12
different scenarios to work during your interview.
59:15
But how would you handle the situation?
59:17
And I think the only situation that they can realistically
59:21
These potential hires is Sam. How is your quarterback?
59:24
What do you do with them? When Ron came here, you know
59:28
when they interviewed him for the job when Schneider
59:30
interviewing for the job the question was joint.
59:33
Haskins God Rest. His soul is your quarterback.
59:36
What are you going to do with them?
59:38
You know, it's going to be the same thing.
59:40
Whether whoever comes in here and read you, one of our
59:42
listeners asked, you know, what do we think of how this
59:46
performance and our thoughts on how?
59:47
And, you know, you just gave yours?
59:49
I think how was a good QB? Is he qb1 for next year?
59:53
Can I ride with him? Yes, I can by default.
59:58
It has nothing to do with how it has everything to do with the
1:00:01
fact that I don't want us trading for another quarterback.
1:00:06
Derek Cars going to be on the market.
1:00:07
The Raiders are going to shop him around or cut him and odds
1:00:13
are it's going to have to be a trade.
1:00:14
I don't want to give up draft picks for the future to get
1:00:17
Derek Carr. You gave up two draft picks to
1:00:19
get Carson Wentz. When no one really wanted Carson
1:00:22
Wentz. So you overpaid there and I
1:00:25
don't want this team to draft a quarterback because we won that
1:00:28
Cowboys game. We now have the 16th pick in the
1:00:31
NFL draft for us to get a good quarterback.
1:00:35
Quote unquote, we got to move up so we've got to try it up.
1:00:38
I don't want this coaching staff to trade up to get a
1:00:42
quarterback. That odds are Ron's gone next
1:00:45
year, that a new coach is not going to want.
1:00:47
So, I want them to ride with Hal and maybe bring in a veteran.
1:00:54
I don't want it to be heinicke. I wanted to be someone else.
1:00:58
I don't care who it is, whether it's a Mariota or Bridgewater.
1:01:01
I want someone else because the second how throws an
1:01:03
interception The chance are going to be heinicke, heinicke,
1:01:06
heinicke. And we know what Taylor is.
1:01:09
We know he's a 500 quarterback, we don't know what houses.
1:01:11
And I don't want how having that dark cloud of the heinicke,
1:01:16
hive, hovering over him. The second he throws a bad
1:01:19
throw, which we saw him do against the Cowboys.
1:01:22
I just want to ride with Hal because it's an unknown and he's
1:01:26
already here and we get a chance to save money and spend it
1:01:30
elsewhere on an offensive line. On may be bringing her on pain
1:01:35
back and I'll get into that. You know, we'll talk about that
1:01:38
in a future episode on what we think, our offseason should
1:01:42
focus on this year, but that's just me, you know, keep how
1:01:46
their bring in some other people to back him up or to compete
1:01:51
with him in training camp that are not named Taylor heinicke.
1:01:55
And then let's get some own lineman that can block maybe
1:01:59
move, San cosme in. It's a guard maybe draft attack.
1:02:02
You can't draft a guard at 16 but do something because there
1:02:07
was an article. I was reading I want to say it
1:02:09
might have been on Rigo's rag out there talking about you know
1:02:14
Oliver offensive. Lineman drawn.
1:02:16
Christian was here, San Francisco has Keith Ishmael, who
1:02:19
we drafted know, a bunch of our offensive line that we have
1:02:22
drafted and picked up the no longer here anymore so we have
1:02:26
to reinvest in that position that is I would say The weakest.
1:02:33
If not top 3 in the weakest on this team.
1:02:37
Yeah. And I agree with you on that.
1:02:41
I want to go back a few seconds. The hide-a-key Hive didn't when
1:02:46
how did mess up against Dallas, the honeybee Hive didn't come
1:02:49
out. I don't have a problem with
1:02:51
Taylor being the backup and it deployed, let me say this.
1:02:58
What offense are they going to run?
1:03:00
Is it something that's going to be Taylor?
1:03:02
Strong suit? But I think that as I said, like
1:03:06
you, we, I believe that the fan base doesn't have a problem
1:03:11
hanging their hat on the how and when he was in the game against
1:03:15
Dallas, no one. And he made a couple mistakes.
1:03:16
No one was, was heinicke. Heinicke.
1:03:19
Heinicke, like the game at nothing?
1:03:22
See, I feel if we could have a feel of that game would have
1:03:25
meant us making the playoffs. People have started yelling for
1:03:28
heinicke but that game meant absolutely nothing.
1:03:30
That it was also flooded with Cowboys fans.
1:03:33
So you feel hypothetically that if how was in San Francisco
1:03:38
game, that went to was in the brain via met the Browns, got
1:03:40
the Browns home game. If Hal was in and Rivera said we
1:03:44
needed a spark and I'm going to go to Sam Howell and if Howell
1:03:48
through that horrible interception like he threw
1:03:50
against the Cowboys where he was Triple covered fans would have
1:03:53
started yelling for heinicke. I truly feel that what happened.
1:03:57
Okay, Maybe not as much, you eat the boo birds were going to be
1:04:04
out. So I hear what you're saying, I
1:04:05
hear what you're saying. But then again, he wouldn't put
1:04:08
the, the smart thing would have been to put heinicke in any way
1:04:12
but that obviously didn't happen.
1:04:14
So he didn't know we could get knocked out the playoffs, so he
1:04:17
didn't. Yeah see yeah.
1:04:18
See I almost forgot about that. And that's something else.
1:04:22
That just just puts a bad taste in my mouth, man.
1:04:26
And you know, Every time we try to lift Ron up, like, I don't
1:04:34
know, son. Yeah, no, no.
1:04:36
Hear me out hear me out every time that we tried to, just like
1:04:39
a roller coaster and you you're going on that first drop.
1:04:42
And it goes the roller coasters. Going up up up.
1:04:45
That's what it feels like a Ron, you know?
1:04:47
Because the beginning of the Season, we go, it's time to go
1:04:51
up and all of a sudden, he shoots himself in the foot and
1:04:55
he goes down, man, his stock goes down and Responses like
1:05:00
that, your stock goes even further down than what it was to
1:05:06
begin with. I mean, it can't get much love
1:05:11
with the problem is You have an owner that is selling the team
1:05:16
that is not going to pay out this man's contract and the rest
1:05:19
of the staffs contracts. If Dan wasn't selling the team
1:05:22
and it wasn't on the market. Rivera should have been fired.
1:05:26
Rivera probably would have been fired.
1:05:28
Yeah, but he has money in a sulk asset.
1:05:32
So Rivera's here, Scott Turner was a scapegoat he was a Scott
1:05:38
go, you know, that's the only reason that Scott was let go to
1:05:42
shoulder the burden. Lame of Ron's mistakes.
1:05:45
Yeah, if Ron knew that we could have been knocked out of the
1:05:48
playoffs and that Browns game odds are he would have gone to
1:05:51
heinicke at halftime, but he didn't know.
1:05:54
And it wouldn't surprise me if a majority of his players didn't
1:05:57
know. Because he didn't tell them or
1:05:59
else, the players probably would have fought to get heinicke on
1:06:01
there at halftime, and it's just a bit nudging up.
1:06:04
Yeah, you know, it's just, it's that frustration that I have and
1:06:08
it's kind of that bad taste in their mouth.
1:06:10
And, you know, we got a whole offseason to Shoulda Woulda
1:06:12
Coulda. But I don't know if you saw
1:06:14
this. So the Jaguars came back against
1:06:18
the Chargers, they were down what?
1:06:19
27, nothing, 27 up, Trevor, Lawrence, first playoff win, and
1:06:25
probably one of the most epic playoff wins in NFL history,
1:06:31
from coming back from that deficit.
1:06:32
I can only think of maybe that Frank Wright game with the
1:06:35
Buffalo Bills, back in the day. But guess where he went for his
1:06:40
celebratory meal after the fact? And keep in mind.
1:06:47
All right, he is making 24 million dollars in a signing
1:06:53
bonus and he signed a four-year 36 million dollar contract.
1:06:57
As getting paid nine million dollars a year guess where he
1:07:01
and 20 of his friends. / teammates went for their post
1:07:05
game, playoff Victory celebration, Red Lobster.
1:07:10
Actually, I wouldn't mind wearing those cheddar biscuits
1:07:13
whole thing's a bomb, but this was his response on where he
1:07:19
wanted to go after winning that game.
1:07:34
So he took his friends and his teammates to Waffle House
1:07:38
afterwards to have their celebratory dinner and I had to
1:07:42
talk to you about this man because I see your postgame
1:07:45
celebration steaks. I mean, I think they've got
1:07:48
chicken fried steak at Waffle House.
1:07:50
I don't know how that might be the closest thing you can get
1:07:52
there, but I was just shocked that that's where this young man
1:07:56
decided to go with his teammates and friends to celebrate their
1:08:00
first playoff. Win it all.
1:08:01
American is the bomb brother, but a pecan waffle.
1:08:05
That's the bomb brother. Hey Trevor my hat's off to you
1:08:08
on that one, brother. I'll take that all day.
1:08:12
I don't know if I would have chosen Waffle House.
1:08:13
I might have been, you know, and I hop really Tooty fresh and
1:08:17
fruity kind of guy instead, but yeah, I think the other part is
1:08:21
Waffle House, didn't take credit cards back in the day, they only
1:08:24
took cash, right? And I hated you down though.
1:08:27
Yeah, I hated Karen cash around me but we did a Waffle House,
1:08:31
man. We played the Jags earlier this
1:08:33
season. So we did have some of those.
1:08:36
I think it was smothered or whatever hash browns on our menu
1:08:40
and those damn good. So, but we're heading into the
1:08:44
offseason, man, I'd be lying if I said I had High Hopes but
1:08:49
really, that's kind of all we got heading in and I'm curious
1:08:52
to see what will happen with the offensive coordinator position.
1:08:57
What's going to happen with the qb1 position?
1:09:00
What's going to happen with the ownership?
1:09:01
Yeah, but one thing I do know is going to happen is you and I are
1:09:04
going to keep at this for the next, you know, foreseeable
1:09:07
future. And hopefully we get some more
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sponsors of jump on board with us, we're waiting guys, the
1:09:13
waiting for you, and I know we've filled with a couple calls
1:09:18
and looking to feel some more. So to get this 2023 season off
1:09:22
and running. And I'm here to tell you Ted, he
1:09:25
said Waffle House which I wouldn't have a problem with.
1:09:28
But I gotta tell you, I got these guys after a true win.
1:09:32
I got to put my pinky up and go to Ruth's Chris bro I'm not.
1:09:34
That's gotta go to my Frist, I gotta get my Tomahawk that's
1:09:38
just how I gotta do it. Damn, that does sound good, but
1:09:40
I'm actually going out to dinner tonight with the missus for
1:09:42
restaurant week. So my expired me to get a steak,
1:09:46
man. It's just a little bite of when,
1:09:48
you know, I don't, I don't eat steak that often but when we
1:09:50
win, I get steak. That's just something that I
1:09:54
started a long time ago and said Victory State and it's caught on
1:09:58
because a lot of people now want 50 steak after we win So, you
1:10:02
never know what trend, you start being a fan so that we might
1:10:08
have to do it after the DC Defenders wins, man.
1:10:10
Maybe go get that Victory. Stay.
1:10:13
Well, it would be Waffle House. It will be chuck.
1:10:17
Chuck steak, very, girl. All right?
1:10:20
That's it anything's fine, with me.
1:10:22
It's a steak. But hey man, I want to thank you
1:10:24
guys for everyone. I want to thank everybody for
1:10:28
listening once again. Ted thank you man for bringing
1:10:31
this whole I guess and I've had a great time and I'm looking
1:10:35
forward to see what 2023 brings in with this.
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So we're here for you guys. And thank you guys for listening
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and stay tuned for next week throughout the week.
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You Guys, continue to rip it hard that don't wrap it.
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All rally cap tailgate, it will be