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- 0:00Speaker 1: Coming to you live from deep within an icy, very icy,
- 0:04Speaker 1: radioactive wasteland. We're the survivors. They all right, apocalypse, the few,
- 0:08Speaker 1: the brave, the bitchy, once more waiting into battle against
- 0:13Speaker 1: the me too zombie hordes with these allegations are bizarre.
- 0:20Speaker 1: I don't even think that Brian will be able to
- 0:22Speaker 1: give me a number today.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Well, I'll have to change the title because Alison told
- 0:28Speaker 2: me to set up a show, did not say Karen
- 0:31Speaker 2: was going to be on. I had no idea until
- 0:33Speaker 2: she came in and said, where it's Karen. I'm like,
- 0:35Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess at home for some reason,
- 0:39Speaker 2: and then care was supposed to be on. So it's
- 0:41Speaker 2: a rant zirker. But it's got the.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Wrong Yeah, so sorry guys. Title, it's entirely my fault.
- 0:47Speaker 2: I've just got to Brian usually but anyway, I'm going
- 0:56Speaker 2: to fix the title while you're while you're talking there, Okay.
- 1:00Speaker 1: So now that we've ascertained who's it fault, which, let's uh,
- 1:05Speaker 1: let us move on.
- 1:08Speaker 2: It's you.
- 1:08Speaker 3: It's it's you. It's Alison, Alison. It's her fault. Alison
- 1:12Speaker 3: is at fault. Yeah, Alison takes.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I am indeed the worst thing about Honey Badger Radio.
- 1:19Speaker 2: It's time we blame women, and we're going to start
- 1:21Speaker 2: with Alison.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always been the worst thing about Honey Badger Radio.
- 1:27Speaker 1: All right, So okay, so what we're going to cover
- 1:30Speaker 1: is at least in the the first part because you
- 1:33Speaker 1: all know that we'll probably very quickly go completely off topic.
- 1:37Speaker 1: But this individual who created online or YouTube content, and
- 1:42Speaker 1: I believe also worked on programming a game. Don't quote
- 1:46Speaker 1: me on that, but his name is it is call
- 1:51Speaker 1: help me out here, Karen. It's called eighty five. It
- 1:56Speaker 1: is called eighty five, and he was basically canceled by
- 2:01Speaker 1: I guess the group that he belonged to worked with,
- 2:05Speaker 1: which was Minecraft Hermits. I think are Crafting Hermits. I apologize,
- 2:12Speaker 1: I'm terrible with names, as you all know. But what
- 2:15Speaker 1: really struck me is somebody sent like one of our patrons.
- 2:19Speaker 1: So shout out to Celerate for sending this to us
- 2:23Speaker 1: as a heads up on this on this new bit
- 2:25Speaker 1: of cancel culture. What astounded me after watching his video,
- 2:32Speaker 1: he goes over how he was given like an hour
- 2:37Speaker 1: and a half's notice before he was going to be
- 2:39Speaker 1: attending some kind of tribunal with his creative group. Tell
- 2:44Speaker 1: me get what these people are actually called. And he
- 2:48Speaker 1: went to the police instead about these allegations that it's
- 2:51Speaker 1: sent against him, presumably because he's been given a whole
- 2:54Speaker 1: bunch of death threats, so that's actually criminal or lots
- 2:59Speaker 1: of threats against him and engage in the people have
- 3:01Speaker 1: been engaging in criminal like criminal harassment. And he sent
- 3:05Speaker 1: this to the police. The police told him that I
- 3:09Speaker 1: believe the police told him that the threat the allegations
- 3:13Speaker 1: are not of a criminal nature, although the harassment he
- 3:16Speaker 1: was receiving is. The allegations aren't. And he's also talked
- 3:20Speaker 1: to a lawyer about them. And I listened to this
- 3:22Speaker 1: and I was like, hmm, okay, well that's interesting. I mean,
- 3:25Speaker 1: he doesn't really present any evidence here in his video
- 3:30Speaker 1: on his side. So I decide, and I look through
- 3:33Speaker 1: the comments, and some people were saying, well, wait till
- 3:35Speaker 1: the evidence comes out. So I decided to go and
- 3:40Speaker 1: find the actual accusations. These are the most weak sauce
- 3:49Speaker 1: accusations yet like they are, they are ridiculous. There there
- 3:59Speaker 1: are and if this is what he's accused of. And
- 4:03Speaker 1: I read his accuser's statement, and I read what she
- 4:08Speaker 1: accused him of or they accused him of, and I
- 4:11Speaker 1: read the evidence for their accusations. What are you guys
- 4:17Speaker 1: doing in your your community of crafters, minecrafters, some kind
- 4:23Speaker 1: of Minecraft community or.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Well they're game devs and like some kind of Minecraft community.
- 4:29Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, yeah, it's combined.
- 4:31Speaker 2: It's like a social and professional.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Ah, but what kind of bullshit are you guys?
- 4:38Speaker 1: We'll get into this, and I'm like I wanted to
- 4:41Speaker 1: when I was reading those comments and the people are saying, well,
- 4:43Speaker 1: wave to the evidence to come out, I was like, Okay, fine,
- 4:45Speaker 1: I'll go see what the accuser is saying. Like even
- 4:49Speaker 1: if the accuser is one, like, of course there is
- 4:54Speaker 1: the stuff that is in evidence, and then there's the
- 4:56Speaker 1: extrapolation that we have no evidence for. But what she
- 5:01Speaker 1: has evidence for, it isn't what.
- 5:05Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, okay, be clear, Okay, If
- 5:10Speaker 3: what she's saying is true, it's lame sauce, or if
- 5:15Speaker 3: what she's saying but hasn't demonstrated.
- 5:19Speaker 1: If what she's saying or if what she's demonstrated is true,
- 5:23Speaker 1: it's weak sauce. If what she's claimed is true, then
- 5:28Speaker 1: at most he's engaged in some kind of adultery, maybe
- 5:33Speaker 1: maybe has an open relationship, maybe talk to two women
- 5:38Speaker 1: at once, because this basically the allegations come down to,
- 5:41Speaker 1: he used his position of power as a development development
- 5:45Speaker 1: developer to talk to two women at once on discord,
- 5:50Speaker 1: to talk through text to two women. This is his allegy,
- 5:55Speaker 1: This is the allegations leveled against.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Him, like to hit on two women maybe, I.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Mean because the hermit craft. Okay, sorry, her allegations, like
- 6:08Speaker 1: her allegations is that, yeah, he hit on her, or
- 6:11Speaker 1: there was sexual talk or something happened on a skype chat.
- 6:15Speaker 1: I don't believe that the skype chat actually has any
- 6:17Speaker 1: evidence for it, so it might have just been purely auditory,
- 6:20Speaker 1: which she doesn't have evidence for. What she's shown evidence
- 6:24Speaker 1: for is some maybe awkward conversation that if you squint,
- 6:30Speaker 1: could be construed as sexual, but isn't really over, Like
- 6:35Speaker 1: he's not saying things like I don't want to I
- 6:37Speaker 1: want to put it in your butt or anything like that,
- 6:40Speaker 1: nothing like that or anything, no, and then they can't
- 6:45Speaker 1: the Neil game and accusations are bizarre, Yeah.
- 6:49Speaker 3: Because.
- 6:51Speaker 2: That's where that's a yeah, that's.
- 6:53Speaker 1: A different yeah, Yeah, it's a different rabbit. You know,
- 6:57Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 6:58Speaker 3: I don't know. All I know. All I know is
- 7:00Speaker 3: if some of these freaking big girl's blouses out here, right,
- 7:05Speaker 3: if they knew how my husband and I talk to
- 7:08Speaker 3: each other, and how I even talk to his mother
- 7:11Speaker 3: and my mother. I mean, like I literally told my
- 7:15Speaker 3: mother and her eighty five year old friend, right, they
- 7:17Speaker 3: were like swaping riskue jokes. Oooh that's a oh I'm
- 7:22Speaker 3: going straight to hell for that one. You know, like
- 7:26Speaker 3: she was, she was talking to her dead husband. She
- 7:29Speaker 3: spread his ashes on the table and she and she said,
- 7:32Speaker 3: you know, he said, you always wanted to buy me
- 7:35Speaker 3: a fur coat, and so, uh, you know, with the
- 7:38Speaker 3: insurance money, I bought myself for a coat and you said,
- 7:41Speaker 3: you always want to take me to the French Riviera.
- 7:43Speaker 3: So you know, with the insurance money, I bought tickets
- 7:45Speaker 3: for the French Riviera and you know that blowjob you
- 7:49Speaker 3: always wanted. Okay. They think they think that's hard edged, right,
- 7:56Speaker 3: they think that's like so I was like, and then
- 7:59Speaker 3: they look at me and you know, like, oh, what
- 8:01Speaker 3: riskue jokes do you have? And I'm like, you don't
- 8:05Speaker 3: want to hear it? Yeah, and uh, and they're like no, no, no, no,
- 8:12Speaker 3: go ahead, go ahead, And I say, what's the best
- 8:18Speaker 3: part about having sex with twenty three year olds? Then
- 8:23Speaker 3: they look at me like there's twenty of them right.
- 8:27Speaker 4: Stare at me.
- 8:28Speaker 3: They both alf their chairs laughing.
- 8:32Speaker 1: F one credit for Labo Morales. You just got you
- 8:39Speaker 1: just got this chantnel de monetized, kicked off YouTube and
- 8:43Speaker 1: possibly on a double double FBI listed.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Right away.
- 8:48Speaker 3: I'm going straight to hell for this, right, But I
- 8:52Speaker 3: heard it from my boss, right he likes dead baby
- 8:55Speaker 3: jokes and pedophile jokes and and whatever, right, Like, I
- 8:59Speaker 3: don't think he actually likes dead babies and petos, but
- 9:02Speaker 3: you know, like he's always got some kind of sick
- 9:05Speaker 3: freaking joke, right, And I told that what yeah, no,
- 9:09Speaker 3: but and and my mom she was like she just
- 9:11Speaker 3: burst out, like mom and Carolin burst out laughing, and
- 9:15Speaker 3: then they both said, yeah, we're going straight to hell
- 9:17Speaker 3: for laughing at that. And I'm like, you're damn right, okay, everybody,
- 9:22Speaker 3: but if they heard if they heard shit that my
- 9:25Speaker 3: husband says to me and I say to my husband
- 9:28Speaker 3: when we're just joking or stuff that I ways that
- 9:31Speaker 3: I make my mother in law burst out laughing and
- 9:35Speaker 3: go and then she goes like, oh my god, Karen,
- 9:37Speaker 3: you're so terrible. Right, I'm sorry, but like these these
- 9:42Speaker 3: women have like I don't understand how women it's not
- 9:49Speaker 3: about there so freaking soft.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Well, it's not about it's not about how soft they are.
- 9:55Speaker 1: It's what they can get away with in terms of
- 9:57Speaker 1: spurious and unlike fair accusations. And like when we get
- 10:02Speaker 1: into it, I think you're gonna just be You're actually
- 10:04Speaker 1: might be horrified by what they're canceling this man over
- 10:09Speaker 1: And I'm just flat out like I'm reading this and
- 10:12Speaker 1: I'm like, somebody has a massive problem with delusion, and
- 10:16Speaker 1: and they're making a man answer to the hiss hibistrophilia
- 10:22Speaker 1: of a woman. I mean, I'm gonna just flat out
- 10:25Speaker 1: say it. What they're accusing him of is having a
- 10:30Speaker 1: conversation on a discord apparently between two women, and that
- 10:33Speaker 1: just is that's that's just improper. It's improper, Karen, It's improper.
- 10:38Speaker 1: A man shouldn't converse with two women without their chaperones
- 10:42Speaker 1: giving him the Okay you know, well.
- 10:47Speaker 3: Okay, maybe maybe each of them thought that he was
- 10:51Speaker 3: only interested in them.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what it probably happened. I mean, I
- 10:55Speaker 1: don't know.
- 10:56Speaker 3: And then they find out that, oh, he's been chatting
- 10:58Speaker 3: with this bitch too, Like what the fuck?
- 11:01Speaker 1: I told me?
- 11:01Speaker 3: Doc talked a bunch of dirty ass ship to that guy,
- 11:05Speaker 3: and he was hearing dirty ass ship from this other cut.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Yes, that's like, as far as I can tell, that's
- 11:11Speaker 1: the allegation is that he strung two women along, okay,
- 11:17Speaker 1: or maybe maybe well somebody felt special and she actually wasn't.
- 11:23Speaker 1: All right, So what do you guys want to do?
- 11:25Speaker 1: You want to go through the allegations. You want to
- 11:27Speaker 1: take a look at what he says first, and.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Let's yeah, let's listen to his video just for the
- 11:33Speaker 2: first Uh. He just goes through the allegations in like
- 11:38Speaker 2: the first like five minutes, and we don't even have
- 11:42Speaker 2: to really refute it, so we can just pause for
- 11:44Speaker 2: the banana and let him play it, let him say
- 11:47Speaker 2: his thing.
- 11:48Speaker 5: Hello.
- 11:48Speaker 6: Two months ago, allegations were cast upon me about consensually
- 11:53Speaker 6: chatting with a couple of adult women in the community,
- 11:57Speaker 6: one of them a moderator of mine. The these allegations
- 12:00Speaker 6: were brought to a hermit, who, then, without my knowledge,
- 12:03Speaker 6: brought it to the Hermicraft Group. The Hermiccraft Group then
- 12:07Speaker 6: summoned me for a hearing and gave me a deadline
- 12:09Speaker 6: of one and a half hours time zones considered. I
- 12:13Speaker 6: did not have any interest in joining that hearing, as
- 12:15Speaker 6: I had at this point already contacted the police and
- 12:18Speaker 6: the solicitor in regards to the alleged rumors and potential defamation.
- 12:24Speaker 2: All right, I'm just pausing for the banana. He's just
- 12:26Speaker 2: telling the story of what pro move prove.
- 12:31Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's that's definitely what you want to do.
- 12:33Speaker 3: You want it, You want to get it on the
- 12:35Speaker 3: record with you know, the legal authorities.
- 12:40Speaker 1: If you're a man, if your man facing this, your
- 12:43Speaker 1: first two stops lawyer, police, start getting a file listed
- 12:50Speaker 1: on and if the women who are accusing you are
- 12:53Speaker 1: engaging in anything criminal, start a file investigation into that.
- 12:58Speaker 1: If they're engaging in any kind of harassment, if they're
- 13:01Speaker 1: encouraging others to.
- 13:02Speaker 7: Harass you, please get all of that reported. Start building
- 13:07Speaker 7: a file. You are not protecting women by allowing them
- 13:11Speaker 7: to continue to do bullshit like this, So don't don't
- 13:14Speaker 7: think that you're doing the good thing.
- 13:15Speaker 1: You're being the good.
- 13:16Speaker 7: Guy by allowing female bad actors to engage in this
- 13:20Speaker 7: kind of hit canery. You're not right, You're just you're
- 13:24Speaker 7: not okay. Set aside the simping and talk to the
- 13:29Speaker 7: police and a lawyer.
- 13:30Speaker 2: All right, Yeah.
- 13:32Speaker 6: He advised me to not comply with Hermicraft's demands. I
- 13:36Speaker 6: informed Hermercraft of this and ask them to respect my
- 13:39Speaker 6: privacy and wait, to which they responded that if I
- 13:42Speaker 6: did not join the hearing, I would be publicly removed.
- 13:45Speaker 6: In one and a half hours, I decided to resign.
- 13:51Speaker 6: This entire thing has completely ruined my life. I no longer,
- 13:55Speaker 6: as it stands, have an income. The rumors and allegations
- 13:59Speaker 6: portrayed me as a predator and as an abuser. I'm
- 14:03Speaker 6: neither of these things. The amount of hate and threats
- 14:06Speaker 6: I have received has been endless, and there have been
- 14:09Speaker 6: days where I've had seen no reason to press on,
- 14:12Speaker 6: no reason to get out of bed, no reason to
- 14:15Speaker 6: eat or even breed, days where I've had to seek
- 14:19Speaker 6: professional mental help. You have to understand that making content
- 14:24Speaker 6: has been my entire life, where I've spent all of
- 14:26Speaker 6: my hours for the past ten years. It's all I know.
- 14:30Speaker 6: These allegations ruined that and at the end of the day.
- 14:34Speaker 6: I'm human, I've got emotions, feelings, and most importantly a
- 14:39Speaker 6: personal private life.
- 14:42Speaker 2: I'm pausing it there again just for the banana, trying
- 14:45Speaker 2: to play it safe. Let's keep going.
- 14:48Speaker 6: As I mentioned, I took this whole thing, the rumors,
- 14:51Speaker 6: the allegations and the defamation to the police. The investigation
- 14:55Speaker 6: is still ongoing. It has gone through to a second
- 14:58Speaker 6: tier of investigations and several people are now being investigated.
- 15:03Speaker 6: I was advised again speaking in public, which is why
- 15:05Speaker 6: you haven't heard anything from me until now.
- 15:09Speaker 1: I know.
- 15:09Speaker 6: The Internet, place, by its own rules and moral high grounds,
- 15:12Speaker 6: based on rumors or tinted through selected parts, seem to
- 15:16Speaker 6: be more valuable to a lot of people than the law,
- 15:19Speaker 6: common sense and respect. Pitchforks are shamelessly easy to equip.
- 15:24Speaker 6: They require no minimum level nor attributes, just equip and
- 15:28Speaker 6: shout with the masses. It seems to give some people
- 15:31Speaker 6: the right to spread misinformation and hate. I have learned
- 15:35Speaker 6: during the investigation that one of the so called victims,
- 15:39Speaker 6: who I, out of respect for their privacy, will not name,
- 15:42Speaker 6: have done this before to another influencer, completely managing to
- 15:46Speaker 6: cancel and ruining their life too.
- 15:49Speaker 2: This is all right, I'm pausing it there again, but
- 15:52Speaker 2: I do want to point out that this guy has
- 15:55Speaker 2: a very large YouTube channel, a million and a half,
- 16:00Speaker 2: so he is obviously an influencer in some in a space.
- 16:05Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it because I know he's he's
- 16:07Speaker 2: a game developer, but he I guess he also makes
- 16:10Speaker 2: Minecraft content. And Minecraft content, if you can pull it off,
- 16:13Speaker 2: is probably humongous on the Internet. The kids love it
- 16:17Speaker 2: so so yeah, I mean, nothing to see if you have.
- 16:22Speaker 3: A funny Scandinavian accent.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Yeah, but nothing to sneeze at, I'd say.
- 16:27Speaker 6: So why it is so important to be careful of
- 16:30Speaker 6: who you trust, who to call a friend, and who
- 16:33Speaker 6: to listen to, specifically online. It also shows that Hermicraft
- 16:37Speaker 6: should have waited before hanging me out as some sort
- 16:39Speaker 6: of criminal to millions of people both on their Twitter
- 16:43Speaker 6: and on their Reddit. I've already received endless amounts of
- 16:47Speaker 6: hate threats, including death threats and death wishes because of
- 16:50Speaker 6: these non criminal and highly personal allegations, and I am
- 16:54Speaker 6: expecting that this statement will generate more of that. I will,
- 16:57Speaker 6: without further consideration, report all of this to the ongoing
- 17:00Speaker 6: police investigation. I've had to increase the security of my
- 17:03Speaker 6: personal private life and take another precautions privately. And I've
- 17:07Speaker 6: had enough. I hope that enough people will see just
- 17:12Speaker 6: how ridiculous and dangerous this entire deal is. The world
- 17:17Speaker 6: has gone absolutely mad, and the cancel culture that I
- 17:20Speaker 6: have now experienced firsthand is a toxic, unjust, and incorrect
- 17:26Speaker 6: system that leaves people like me, a naive and generous
- 17:30Speaker 6: sportsball nerd who enjoys playing and creating video games online,
- 17:35Speaker 6: extremely vulnerable the cancel colure.
- 17:38Speaker 2: All right, I'm pausing it there. I got a uh.
- 17:40Speaker 3: Oh, I got he's a sportsball nerd.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've got to mention that. Before the show,
- 17:48Speaker 2: we get a super chow from Mnemonix, who gives us
- 17:51Speaker 2: ten dollars and just says honey for the Badgers. And
- 17:54Speaker 2: just now, I got a rumble rant from Nova fan
- 17:57Speaker 2: twenty one, who gives us a dollar and says feminist,
- 17:59Speaker 2: why do men refuse to mentor us after the Me
- 18:02Speaker 2: Too movement and discorre minecraft women? Lander a man for
- 18:06Speaker 2: talking to women?
- 18:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, if you mentor a woman, Apparently she
- 18:15Speaker 1: and you mentor two women and one of them thinks
- 18:18Speaker 1: that you were just mentoring her because she was the specialist,
- 18:21Speaker 1: most special princess of being mentored, and she decides to
- 18:25Speaker 1: feel jealousy about you mentoring another woman.
- 18:29Speaker 3: Or even if you're not mentoring them, even if you're
- 18:31Speaker 3: hitting on them, who the fuck cares? Right, you're not
- 18:34Speaker 3: the only woman in the world.
- 18:36Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but that's okay. I think have we watched
- 18:41Speaker 1: a lot enough of what he has?
- 18:43Speaker 2: One more minute? I think it's like a five minute thing.
- 18:46Speaker 6: Yeah, culture can be compared with the witch hunts carried
- 18:49Speaker 6: out in the fifteen and sixteen hundreds, where people would
- 18:52Speaker 6: attempt to drown a person and if they didn't drown,
- 18:55Speaker 6: they were deemed a witch and burnt on the steak.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Oh he got, he got. People were upset with him
- 19:02Speaker 1: because they he made that comparison.
- 19:07Speaker 2: But to witchcraft, I can't.
- 19:10Speaker 1: What they said is, I can't believe he compared what
- 19:13Speaker 1: happened to him as a giant influencer to women being
- 19:17Speaker 1: systematically genocided. And and I was like, yeah, but you
- 19:22Speaker 1: constantly feminists constantly compare the situation of women historically to
- 19:26Speaker 1: actually oppressed groups.
- 19:28Speaker 2: So you know, the which the witch hunts were not.
- 19:32Speaker 2: There were a lot of men that were also being
- 19:35Speaker 2: co accused. And there are a lot of women that
- 19:37Speaker 2: were making allegations, most of them.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Most of the allegations came from.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Yeah, women, Most of the allegations came from women. Men. Uh.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Men were less likely to be accused of which witchcraft,
- 19:50Speaker 3: but more likely to be accused of heresy. Yeah right,
- 19:54Speaker 3: which effectively the same. Yeah, the panel, he's the same.
- 20:00Speaker 3: You still get anger burned at the stake, right, Yeah.
- 20:07Speaker 2: All right.
- 20:08Speaker 6: There's a little bit more left here is that allegations,
- 20:13Speaker 6: rumors were spread about me with the help of Hermicraft's
- 20:16Speaker 6: public power, and I was made to look like a criminal,
- 20:19Speaker 6: which I'm not, and it completely destroyed my life. Everyone
- 20:23Speaker 6: has the right to a personal life and privacy.
- 20:26Speaker 2: You do and I do.
- 20:28Speaker 6: Neither you nor Hermicraft have any right to infringe in
- 20:32Speaker 6: my private life. In today's society, when information is at
- 20:36Speaker 6: your fingertips without any further knowledge, rumors can make anyone
- 20:39Speaker 6: look bad. This was designed to completely cancel and destroy
- 20:43Speaker 6: another human being. So I urge you to think critically
- 20:48Speaker 6: before judging. Don't believe everything you read. Too many people
- 20:51Speaker 6: have their own.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Jeals and in time, here's the thing, here's the thing.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Even her allegations even if if you do believe them.
- 21:03Speaker 2: So what, Yeah, we still need to investigate.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Well, but believe her allegations? Well I find them true?
- 21:12Speaker 3: So what? But okay, but but we we don't actually
- 21:17Speaker 3: know the specifics of the allegations. I do then, okay,
- 21:21Speaker 3: so maybe we should switch to that.
- 21:23Speaker 2: Yeah, let's we can? We can? We can? You you
- 21:27Speaker 2: want to talk about what? Because I don't know. I
- 21:29Speaker 2: just saw this video, so I don't have the whole picture.
- 21:31Speaker 2: But I'm pretty curious about right.
- 21:33Speaker 3: So if Alison has the whole picture, I want to
- 21:36Speaker 3: see it.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's see it. So if you if did
- 21:41Speaker 1: I I sent you the Oh maybe I didn't. I
- 21:43Speaker 1: also didn't send you the link.
- 21:46Speaker 2: No, I don't think you.
- 21:47Speaker 3: Did, Alison.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Oh goodness, all right, what is your brain?
- 21:56Speaker 2: All right? Casses statement heremosis?
- 22:00Speaker 3: Yeah I think so.
- 22:02Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 22:03Speaker 2: So I'm waiting to load, all right? Should I read this? Okay?
- 22:06Speaker 2: I'm sharing the tab now, yes, sharing the tab?
- 22:11Speaker 1: No, somebody says the anti social contract just got here.
- 22:14Speaker 1: We're talking about the false accusation of George not found
- 22:17Speaker 1: or a new one. I believe this is a new one.
- 22:19Speaker 1: But I did, I did do a list it's not
- 22:22Speaker 1: a comprehensive list of the current I think the accusations
- 22:27Speaker 1: that are currently at play. Quite It's called George not
- 22:32Speaker 1: found dream boy in a band, Tommy, Like, we got
- 22:35Speaker 1: a lot going on here. Maybe all of them are
- 22:38Speaker 1: as absolutely substantively.
- 22:42Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's got she's got three introductory paragraphs.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, when did that? What should I start a
- 22:49Speaker 2: little bit further down? Okay, so this is called Cass's statement.
- 22:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just going to tell you what happened.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Go ahead, Karen, you can read it.
- 23:00Speaker 3: Fourth paragraph. I'm just going to tell you what happened
- 23:05Speaker 3: in the order that it happened, so that I hopefully
- 23:08Speaker 3: don't miss anything. Don't expect too much. Okay, point something out.
- 23:19Speaker 1: I want to point something out. Notice how they're poisoning
- 23:23Speaker 1: the well. So far, no miners are involved that we
- 23:26Speaker 1: know of. God, I hope you all. Apparently Iceland has
- 23:39Speaker 1: pretty tight laws when it comes to slander.
- 23:41Speaker 2: This guy islanding, I.
- 23:44Speaker 1: Believe so, or I've heard they have really really tight
- 23:52Speaker 1: laws for slander. You are definitely towards it.
- 23:57Speaker 3: He's definitely Danish, Swedish or or trick in uh normal.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Because I've heard like this is this was the this
- 24:07Speaker 1: was the It might just be a rumor, it might
- 24:09Speaker 1: actually be an actual case that there was a man
- 24:12Speaker 1: who was convicted of some kind of sexual aggression or
- 24:17Speaker 1: improprietor you're not impropriety, but you know, like a sexual offense,
- 24:21Speaker 1: and there was somebody who spread that information around and
- 24:26Speaker 1: they were found guilty of slander, because truth is not
- 24:29Speaker 1: a defense as long as you are spreading a rumor
- 24:33Speaker 1: around to harm someone.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, malice if you have actually in malice, Yeah,
- 24:39Speaker 3: if you have actually if that person isn't a public figure,
- 24:44Speaker 3: you can you can you can be found guilty of
- 24:47Speaker 3: slander or defamation by spreading true information. Yeah, with with
- 24:52Speaker 3: actual malice. Yeah, actually, I mean that's even that's even
- 24:55Speaker 3: the case in Canada and the United and even in
- 24:58Speaker 3: the United States. Truth isn't it. Truth is considered an
- 25:02Speaker 3: absolute defense against a claim of misrepresentation, but not necessarily defamation.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Right if you should do if you spread truth within
- 25:12Speaker 3: with the sole intent to harm someone and it's not
- 25:16Speaker 3: there's no public interest in it. So basically, if if
- 25:21Speaker 3: you if if somebody did something as a teenager, something
- 25:29Speaker 3: bad as a teenager, and their record was exponged and uh,
- 25:34Speaker 3: you know because of the Youth Offenders Act or whatever
- 25:37Speaker 3: in Canada here the and and then you found that
- 25:42Speaker 3: out and you spread it around even though it's true,
- 25:46Speaker 3: it's not protected speech if you did it with actual
- 25:50Speaker 3: malice trying to harm them.
- 25:52Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so this is what I want. And now
- 25:56Speaker 1: it's always women are doing like it's not really a
- 25:59Speaker 1: thing that men can do, which is make these kinds
- 26:02Speaker 1: of accusations and get people canceled like this.
- 26:05Speaker 3: So yeah, no, look at how Johnny Depp, Johnny Depp
- 26:09Speaker 3: had to like he had to take it to court.
- 26:13Speaker 1: This isn't This isn't the way that you conduct yourself.
- 26:16Speaker 1: This should have been brought to the police. And of
- 26:18Speaker 1: course it wasn't because if it had been brought to
- 26:20Speaker 1: the police, they would have told the person that there's
- 26:23Speaker 1: no crime, because there wasn't.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Not at Yeah, there's there's nothing but an actionable tourte Yeah.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Well, I mean you should wait till you hear what
- 26:34Speaker 1: she alleges.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Go ahead, keep going, Okay, I just started, So I'm
- 26:40Speaker 2: just going to tell you what happened in the order
- 26:41Speaker 2: that it happens, so that I hopefully don't miss anything.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Don't expect too much photo evidence right now because it's
- 26:46Speaker 2: pretty hard to look through it, and the Hermits plus
- 26:49Speaker 2: the other people like the VH devs have all they
- 26:53Speaker 2: need to see the truth of it. Please have faith
- 26:56Speaker 2: in us and them that the evidence is overwhelmingly sufficient.
- 26:59Speaker 2: So does a lot of trust me bro in this
- 27:03Speaker 2: paragrat right.
- 27:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:05Speaker 2: I haven't gotten to it yet, but it's like it's there, Karen,
- 27:09Speaker 2: trust me, it's there. For those of you who don't
- 27:13Speaker 2: know me. I have been a moderator for East Kyle
- 27:16Speaker 2: for a while now, and for a time it was
- 27:18Speaker 2: only gamer Salsa, my mod twin as I like to say,
- 27:22Speaker 2: and myself doing most of everything on the stream. He
- 27:24Speaker 2: hates moderating his own things. I also ended up a
- 27:27Speaker 2: moderator of his discord and the Vault Hunter's official discord.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Scall and I shared a few friends, which made the
- 27:33Speaker 2: situation so much more confusing until I told them what
- 27:36Speaker 2: was going on, and they helped pulled me out of
- 27:38Speaker 2: my mental state and made me realize things that were
- 27:40Speaker 2: happening that I had no idea about. The personal thing
- 27:43Speaker 2: started on August twelve, twenty twenty three. What happened was
- 27:47Speaker 2: that Salsa and I were in the vault Hunter's Patreon
- 27:50Speaker 2: voice chat, just doing a vault together when he popped
- 27:52Speaker 2: in while muted and watched us for a bit before leaving.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Right after that, he sent me this, so so he
- 27:58Speaker 2: went into their voice chat muted, He didn't say anything,
- 28:01Speaker 2: hung around for a bit, and then left, and then
- 28:04Speaker 2: it says it's scall sent to Fred request I was
- 28:06Speaker 2: trying to make a group chat with air Salsa or
- 28:08Speaker 2: Sir Salsa, but caan't kech w accepted sirs the response
- 28:13Speaker 2: then he says, just wanted to thank you and Salsa
- 28:16Speaker 2: specifically for all the help with the streams and the community.
- 28:19Speaker 2: You guys are absolutely omega to me and I appreciate
- 28:22Speaker 2: the hell out of both of you. Heart emoji. That
- 28:24Speaker 2: was your first mistake. Thank you for being there for me.
- 28:28Speaker 2: Fairly innocent, and that's how it was for about a
- 28:30Speaker 2: week and a half. Something to know about Iscal is
- 28:32Speaker 2: that he doesn't really respond to discord very much, even
- 28:35Speaker 2: when he's asked me to send him something or do
- 28:38Speaker 2: something for him, which I honestly didn't expect more than that,
- 28:41Speaker 2: I didn't really bother me. However, for these nine days
- 28:44Speaker 2: he's extremely chatty, even starting his own conversations, which was
- 28:47Speaker 2: baffling at the time as I was used to the
- 28:50Speaker 2: mostly silence on his end. I just thought he was
- 28:53Speaker 2: being more my friend than before, which I don't think
- 28:56Speaker 2: would be that unusual since I had been moderating for
- 28:58Speaker 2: him for a long time, doing a lot of things
- 29:00Speaker 2: for his stream and community who I adored. It was
- 29:03Speaker 2: August twenty first when he first brought up Skype, but
- 29:06Speaker 2: before that he started being a little weird about giving
- 29:08Speaker 2: me any context about whatever he meant, so I didn't
- 29:11Speaker 2: think much of it at the time, but now hindsight
- 29:14Speaker 2: is twenty twenty. And then Iscall says, finger, you need food,
- 29:18Speaker 2: kech w continue to be awesome, Cast, I've got no
- 29:22Speaker 2: worries in my head. You're a good one. Now we
- 29:24Speaker 2: play some sky vaults, I think, Cassie says ooh, and
- 29:28Speaker 2: Iskall puts I don't know. I guess that's like a
- 29:30Speaker 2: surprised emoji peeping at Iskall Cast danger Zone Cast puts
- 29:35Speaker 2: pants back on Lall, and then the Skype message nice
- 29:38Speaker 2: set up Skype, yup, yup downloading. OMG, how did I
- 29:42Speaker 2: remember my old one? Lall? I'm probably gonna make a
- 29:45Speaker 2: new one. Anyway, Laul, But what the hell? I have
- 29:47Speaker 2: a message for my brother from twenty eighteen. Lol, I
- 29:50Speaker 2: will add you what is it? Immediately after going to
- 29:53Speaker 2: Skype is when he brought up danger zones again and
- 29:55Speaker 2: started being sexual. He talked about getting in bed naked
- 29:59Speaker 2: and that he currently had a boner. I was wary
- 30:01Speaker 2: to engage, but honestly, I don't see any screenshots that.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Shots for this.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Just maybe they were on a voice call.
- 30:12Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a thing. There might have been on a
- 30:14Speaker 1: voice call, but there's no evidence, which.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. We have to take her word for
- 30:18Speaker 2: it at this point.
- 30:19Speaker 1: We have to take our word for that. Yeah that Yeah,
- 30:23Speaker 1: the worst of it is, uh, okay.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Let me see should I just should.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Again?
- 30:34Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 30:34Speaker 1: But danger zone is it's also a freaking archer meme.
- 30:39Speaker 2: That's that's what. That's why it's Yes, there's a danger
- 30:43Speaker 2: zone as the archer meme is a reference to things
- 30:47Speaker 2: getting sexual.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Right. It's like phrasing I can't keep track of Discord,
- 30:51Speaker 3: and I like you, Well, I don't go on Discord
- 30:54Speaker 3: for a reason. It's just too many people.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Okay, so she does. Immediately after going to Skype is
- 31:02Speaker 1: when he brought up danger zones again. So below this
- 31:06Speaker 1: is the Skype chat. How come we don't have evidence
- 31:08Speaker 1: of the danger zone being sexual or the Skype call
- 31:13Speaker 1: or yeah, you could have just shown us the Skype
- 31:15Speaker 1: call and they said, that's when we had because the
- 31:18Speaker 1: thing is that when you go on Skype, it's texting,
- 31:21Speaker 1: right mostly, and you could do a Skype call. But
- 31:25Speaker 1: there's an evidence that a Skype call took place, because
- 31:29Speaker 1: she could definitely show us this is when.
- 31:32Speaker 3: The Skype call and it was this.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Long, curiously omitted and if this was in text, why
- 31:39Speaker 1: didn't she put the evidence of that conversation in there?
- 31:45Speaker 3: Oh? Oh well no, but I can't keep track of discord,
- 31:51Speaker 3: and I like, you keep this very private though only
- 31:55Speaker 3: for family and way close friends.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Very close friends. Yeah, yes, okay, I mean he's like
- 32:04Speaker 2: a guy with a million plus subs, right, yes, so
- 32:07Speaker 2: there's probably a large community and he just doesn't he
- 32:10Speaker 2: wants to create something.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Like he could have just mean.
- 32:14Speaker 3: I think I think by like, he probably means that
- 32:18Speaker 3: he likes her, likes her like could.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Be it could be that I don't think that's bad.
- 32:23Speaker 1: No, No, I would honestly, because he's like, he's like, yeah, no,
- 32:28Speaker 1: listen it everywhere, because it's like, okay, you know, even
- 32:32Speaker 1: if if they have contact with me, then everybody's going
- 32:37Speaker 1: to deluge him on on Skype.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what should I read next? Should I say? Oh? Uh,
- 32:44Speaker 2: this paragraph? You can see here he's talking about danger
- 32:48Speaker 2: zones again, eight days after the first time. I'm showing
- 32:50Speaker 2: this so that you can see he is clearly the
- 32:52Speaker 2: same person I've been talking to, as I was honestly
- 32:55Speaker 2: so confused by his flip and behavior that I started
- 32:57Speaker 2: to question myself on whether he truly the same person
- 33:01Speaker 2: I was just talking to. The way he talks and
- 33:03Speaker 2: uses emotes is the exact same as he already is
- 33:06Speaker 2: everywhere else, which is made more apparent the more he
- 33:09Speaker 2: talked to me. To back up that back this up
- 33:12Speaker 2: even further, I have two instances of me mentioning Skype
- 33:15Speaker 2: to him afterwards on discord and thrown, though he never
- 33:18Speaker 2: replied directly to those messages. He also never went hunt
- 33:21Speaker 2: what Skype or anything like that. And there's this Cassie says, sir,
- 33:26Speaker 2: do you check your Skype as much as you think
- 33:28Speaker 2: you do? And he don't know? Bingo card, Thank you,
- 33:32Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, sir. Okay, whatever. Something I and
- 33:35Speaker 2: the others noticed was his lovely habit of taking a
- 33:39Speaker 2: talking a lot and then ghosting us for one of
- 33:41Speaker 2: two weeks randomly, which is why I said this, not
- 33:44Speaker 2: that I feel I have to justify myself.
- 33:46Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, now I'm feeling like I'm gonna get accused
- 33:50Speaker 3: of something. Yeah, do you remember Allison was so freaking
- 33:55Speaker 3: concerned about me because I ghosted her for like two
- 33:58Speaker 3: weeks that she sent the cops to my house for
- 34:02Speaker 3: a wellness chat.
- 34:03Speaker 1: More, well, there was more to that that sordid tale
- 34:07Speaker 1: than just you.
- 34:08Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I know, I just lost your cell phone.
- 34:11Speaker 1: And then I didn't.
- 34:12Speaker 3: Lose my cell phone. It like was put it was
- 34:16Speaker 3: in my pocket but useless. But but I have emails
- 34:21Speaker 3: that you had.
- 34:22Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you had email and I didn't. I
- 34:26Speaker 1: could have just sent you an email, I know.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Anyway, Anyway, like I I ghost, I ghost you guys
- 34:35Speaker 3: for weeks at a time, I freaking I don't. I literally.
- 34:40Speaker 3: I have a friend in BC who I consider almost
- 34:45Speaker 3: a daughter. She can phone me like every other day
- 34:48Speaker 3: for three weeks, and I just don't pick up because
- 34:51Speaker 3: I just don't feel like it. I don't feel like
- 34:54Speaker 3: talking to her. All she wants to do is complain
- 34:56Speaker 3: about her life.
- 34:58Speaker 2: I get it. I got a super chap from Senior
- 35:01Speaker 2: Sticks for two dollars and they say the only solution
- 35:05Speaker 2: is to cancel. Everyone seems that way.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, So I guess that that part of
- 35:15Speaker 1: the statement, the danger zone talk. Yeah, maybe it's sexual,
- 35:21Speaker 1: it could.
- 35:21Speaker 2: All even if it is, so what like I mean,
- 35:24Speaker 2: that doesn't make it predatory. And then like all these
- 35:28Speaker 2: other implications, well, these people are obviously like awkward and
- 35:34Speaker 2: introverted people.
- 35:36Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so you.
- 35:38Speaker 3: Go on a date over Skype and then he ghosts you? Yeah, okay,
- 35:45Speaker 3: like that's like going to dinner. Okay, Like did she
- 35:49Speaker 3: flash her tits at him? Did she like do the
- 35:51Speaker 3: full spread? Like what? Okay, you know, did she do
- 35:56Speaker 3: the four finger like bunghold special right on camera for
- 36:02Speaker 3: him and then he like recorded it and like spread
- 36:06Speaker 3: it on the internet and showed his freaking.
- 36:11Speaker 2: We're not talking about that, Yeah.
- 36:13Speaker 3: I guess not. But okay, but like, you go on
- 36:21Speaker 3: a date. I've been on lots of dates, you know,
- 36:25Speaker 3: you chat with a guy on some dating site and
- 36:29Speaker 3: then you go on a date. And then maybe you
- 36:32Speaker 3: smooch a little, you know afterwards or whatever, you talk
- 36:36Speaker 3: and whatever, and then and then like he's like, he
- 36:39Speaker 3: doesn't call you again, and it's like, okay, that's how
- 36:44Speaker 3: it goes. You move on.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 36:49Speaker 8: So even if this was a Skype date, you know,
- 36:54Speaker 8: kind of skypegate Skype date, right, unless she like freaking
- 37:00Speaker 8: just put it all on display, right.
- 37:03Speaker 3: And he, you know, did something nefarious with that stuff,
- 37:12Speaker 3: I don't see any fucking I mean, it could be
- 37:15Speaker 3: like really disappointing, you know, and you could you could,
- 37:21Speaker 3: you could have regrets. Oh, I wish I hadn't shown
- 37:23Speaker 3: him my coach. Even even if that, even if that
- 37:30Speaker 3: was what what went on on that call that she
- 37:33Speaker 3: claims that they had, right.
- 37:36Speaker 1: I don't think there's evidence.
- 37:40Speaker 3: There's no evidence that that it did. Right, but the
- 37:43Speaker 3: cool happened, even if the call happened, And even if
- 37:49Speaker 3: she like I don't know, played with her nipples while
- 37:52Speaker 3: he jerked off. Okay, just because he ghosted her afterwards,
- 38:03Speaker 3: doesn't mean he's not a crime.
- 38:05Speaker 1: No, it isn't.
- 38:09Speaker 3: Or maybe her nipples weren't to his liking.
- 38:12Speaker 1: But they're making it a crime because he had so
- 38:14Speaker 1: much influence and he had power over her, and he
- 38:18Speaker 1: used that influence to talk.
- 38:19Speaker 3: No, no, she wanted she wanted to bend over and
- 38:22Speaker 3: give it up for him because he has influence and
- 38:25Speaker 3: he has money.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Maybe. Because the thing is that we have no evidence
- 38:31Speaker 1: that this even got to second base, which is an
- 38:33Speaker 1: actual voice call. All this is all the evidence we
- 38:37Speaker 1: have is of text. We don't even have evidence that
- 38:40Speaker 1: a call happened, which she could have provided.
- 38:43Speaker 3: Well, no, no, for first base? First base is his
- 38:47Speaker 3: text chat?
- 38:48Speaker 1: Yeah? Second base?
- 38:49Speaker 3: No? No, no, wait wait, home plate like the batter plate,
- 38:55Speaker 3: you know that's the text. First base is is the
- 39:01Speaker 3: phone call? Right? Second base is the show your tits?
- 39:06Speaker 3: You know video he jokes, No video call?
- 39:10Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and then home home home run is third base?
- 39:16Speaker 3: Third base is she masturbated in front of him?
- 39:21Speaker 2: Okay, this is the rules? Yeah, and then home run
- 39:27Speaker 2: is them they hold hands.
- 39:30Speaker 3: Yes, they meet a person and nasty handling and maybe
- 39:35Speaker 3: kiss on the cheek in persons on the hand.
- 39:40Speaker 1: So we don't even have evidence that they got to
- 39:42Speaker 1: first base.
- 39:45Speaker 2: No, don't.
- 39:46Speaker 1: What we have at this moment is possible sexual jokes.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Uh said through text. I mean personally, I think we
- 39:57Speaker 1: in a Red Heart and a Red Heart part em.
- 40:00Speaker 2: But there's more. Let's okay, but first I got a
- 40:05Speaker 2: senior sticks gave us another super Chat and said, Karen,
- 40:08Speaker 2: when the cops came, was it like a cops show?
- 40:12Speaker 2: No boys?
- 40:13Speaker 3: No, okay here here. The hilarious thing is I was
- 40:16Speaker 3: leaving the house to go to the store and the
- 40:21Speaker 3: cops had just pulled up and they were like coming
- 40:24Speaker 3: through the gate, the front gate, and and I was like,
- 40:28Speaker 3: is there a problem? And it's like, literally this Tammy
- 40:32Speaker 3: fay Baker looking chick with like false stylashes, right, but
- 40:36Speaker 3: not a chubby Tammy Faborite Baker, like middle aged, right.
- 40:40Speaker 3: She was like a young, attractive Tammy fay Baker, like
- 40:42Speaker 3: frosted tips, false etylashes, very like heavily made up. And
- 40:47Speaker 3: she's like, well, your friend, you have a friend who's
- 40:51Speaker 3: concerned about you. And I'm like she lived in Saskatchewan
- 41:00Speaker 3: and she's like, yeah, how did you know? And I'm
- 41:01Speaker 3: like Jesus Christ Allison, right, and her and her partner
- 41:06Speaker 3: just burst out laughing. I was like, I have a email.
- 41:11Speaker 3: My phone's broken.
- 41:16Speaker 2: Okay, so back to the article or whatever.
- 41:18Speaker 3: Anyway, they laughed and said it they laughed and said
- 41:21Speaker 3: it was. It was actually one of the best stops
- 41:26Speaker 3: of their day before you know, they were clocking out,
- 41:29Speaker 3: so because it was both funny and there was nothing wrong.
- 41:36Speaker 2: Yeah, that the the reason for that is the stop
- 41:39Speaker 2: they just made. The before yours was the baby found
- 41:42Speaker 2: in the microwave oven.
- 41:44Speaker 3: No no, no, no. The stop before before mine was
- 41:47Speaker 3: probably the homeless guy who was like O ding in
- 41:52Speaker 3: the fresh Go bathroom.
- 41:54Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's why yours was the best. Yeah. So
- 42:00Speaker 2: let's see. After adding Skype, he didn't talk to me
- 42:03Speaker 2: at all on Discord anymore in the friendly way he
- 42:05Speaker 2: was before, but only stream moderator stuff. Then he would
- 42:08Speaker 2: talk to me on the Skype for days off and on,
- 42:10Speaker 2: randomly saying extremely flirty things that in hindsight definitely stepped
- 42:13Speaker 2: over the line of friend flirty bantering. I was very
- 42:17Speaker 2: conflicted on if I should say anything back like he does,
- 42:21Speaker 2: but mostly I changed the subject and tried to get
- 42:23Speaker 2: him to talk about normal things, which he would sometimes.
- 42:26Speaker 2: I'd seen so many instances of red flags to look
- 42:28Speaker 2: out for in situations like these, and he absolutely picked
- 42:31Speaker 2: up on it. A lot of the time, his flirting
- 42:34Speaker 2: was unsuccessful. He would either say something like changing the
- 42:37Speaker 2: subject I see, encouraging me to open up, or straight
- 42:40Speaker 2: up just leaving me alone. For a couple of days
- 42:41Speaker 2: before he tried again, I showed him a video of
- 42:44Speaker 2: my pigeon Wilbur unfortunate name, I know, taking a bath
- 42:47Speaker 2: and the bottom of my leg happened to be in
- 42:49Speaker 2: the shot. And after that he was obsessed with my
- 42:52Speaker 2: legs and mentioned them whenever he could. Now, I'm yeah,
- 42:55Speaker 2: because you totally accidentally put your leg in the shot.
- 42:57Speaker 2: But anyway, now I'm I'm sorry, but it's possible as
- 43:02Speaker 2: an accident. But most of the time women know exactly
- 43:05Speaker 2: what they're doing when they take a picture exactly. But
- 43:09Speaker 2: now I mentioned before that we had a lot of
- 43:11Speaker 2: friends in common. A full month later the skype thing started,
- 43:14Speaker 2: one of my friends accidentally revealed that Iskall had a
- 43:17Speaker 2: live in partner. This friend had no idea about the skype,
- 43:20Speaker 2: but knew the secret before because of other reasons. And
- 43:23Speaker 2: I don't even remember how it was brought up at
- 43:25Speaker 2: the time, because all I remember is a sudden drop
- 43:27Speaker 2: in my stomach. As soon as they said it. I
- 43:29Speaker 2: didn't just take their word for it, though, and I
- 43:31Speaker 2: talked to other friends who I knew would know the truth.
- 43:33Speaker 2: The first person I approached, I don't know if they
- 43:35Speaker 2: really understood what or why I was asking, so they
- 43:38Speaker 2: didn't confirm or deny anything, which really messed with me.
- 43:41Speaker 2: At the time. I thought to myself that Iskall could
- 43:44Speaker 2: not be so stupid as to do this with me,
- 43:47Speaker 2: who he knows as friends with people he knows, so
- 43:49Speaker 2: surely I was blowing it all out of proportion. I
- 43:52Speaker 2: did ask Iskall if he had a partner then, because
- 43:55Speaker 2: I wanted to know if he would lie or not.
- 43:57Speaker 2: And then here's a screenshot and it says, so do you?
- 44:01Speaker 2: So do you or so? It just says so do you?
- 44:05Speaker 2: And then he says I don't get no cuddles, lull
- 44:08Speaker 2: and then why not, sir? No partner for Iskall? And
- 44:11Speaker 2: then he says, no partner for Iskall. I guess I
- 44:14Speaker 2: spiraled over this for probably a week or two before
- 44:17Speaker 2: I talked again to someone I trusted, trying to get
- 44:19Speaker 2: more answers and to stop freaking out. It sounds like
- 44:22Speaker 2: she's doing this to herself. Whoever this is who I'm
- 44:26Speaker 2: going to call a that was happening, and they immediately
- 44:29Speaker 2: told me about the partner once they understood that the
- 44:32Speaker 2: secret needed to be told to me. Their identity is
- 44:34Speaker 2: remaining anonymous for the moment, as we don't know what's
- 44:36Speaker 2: happening in the background. A really helped. A really helped
- 44:41Speaker 2: pull me out of my spiral and made me truly
- 44:43Speaker 2: confront the fact that what Iskall was doing with me
- 44:46Speaker 2: wasn't right and had overstepped a line. I couldn't convince
- 44:50Speaker 2: myself anymore that Iskall was behaving like a normal person would.
- 44:54Speaker 1: Wait a second, Okay, first of all, why doesn't she
- 44:57Speaker 1: have evidence of the stuff that's actually slightly sexual not
- 45:01Speaker 1: incriminating because there's no crime here, but you know, the
- 45:04Speaker 1: stuff that might be considered even sexual because and the
- 45:08Speaker 1: other thing is that.
- 45:10Speaker 3: Yeah, the flirty, flirty, flirty stuff. Yeah no, I mean
- 45:13Speaker 3: there there there was a little bit of you know,
- 45:17Speaker 3: kind of flirty innuendoy things.
- 45:19Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but that's overt at all. Yeah, sex texting
- 45:27Speaker 1: at all?
- 45:28Speaker 2: Why was why is she spiraling like over what?
- 45:31Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a guy like me.
- 45:35Speaker 2: What did he do? That's not okay? Like that's what? Like, Look,
- 45:39Speaker 2: I want to read this bit again. Okay, A a
- 45:43Speaker 2: friend or some confidant really helped me, pulled me out
- 45:46Speaker 2: of my spiral and made me truly confront the fact
- 45:50Speaker 2: that what Iskaul was doing with me wasn't right and
- 45:53Speaker 2: had overstepped a line. What are you talking about? But
- 45:58Speaker 2: what what did? What? Yeah? What what are you talking about?
- 46:04Speaker 3: You know?
- 46:04Speaker 2: This is you know what this is reminding me of.
- 46:06Speaker 2: This reminds me of the Neil Gamon thing where the
- 46:10Speaker 2: woman I think I can't remember her name, but the
- 46:13Speaker 2: woman who wrote the testimony about the things that Neil
- 46:17Speaker 2: Gamon did, Pavlovich, Yeah, that she had she went along
- 46:23Speaker 2: with all of this stuff. And then later some like
- 46:26Speaker 2: me too Women's Org activist group found her and said, oh,
- 46:30Speaker 2: you you have actually been a victim of several crimes,
- 46:34Speaker 2: even though the entire time she was going along with it. Yeah,
- 46:40Speaker 2: she was like involvedst.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Like she's she was like I'm looking for.
- 46:47Speaker 2: Me, right, And so some external group comes in and
- 46:50Speaker 2: then the gaslight or or something you into believing that
- 46:53Speaker 2: actually all that stuff that you were enjoying is actually
- 46:57Speaker 2: suffering and you're a victim of it. And and I'm
- 47:00Speaker 2: wondering about this here because this I don't see any
- 47:04Speaker 2: line that's been overstepped here unless.
- 47:07Speaker 3: Where there is a line. There is a line that's
- 47:10Speaker 3: being overstepped, and it's the one that Doug Pimp pen
- 47:15Speaker 3: m Hoff his girlfriend overstepped when she flirted with that
- 47:21Speaker 3: valet and and he backhanded her so hard that she
- 47:24Speaker 3: fucking spun around.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Doug the male feminist champion and warrior.
- 47:32Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, So that's the line that he crossed, right,
- 47:35Speaker 3: He has a living partner, he has a significant other,
- 47:40Speaker 3: and he was flirting with another woman. Oh my god.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Again, yeah, I mean, like, what is it? I don't
- 47:48Speaker 2: know what.
- 47:49Speaker 3: Fidelity is not a criminal offense, at least not in
- 47:53Speaker 3: this country, not in the United States, not in Iceland,
- 47:57Speaker 3: not in Scandinavia, anywhere in Europe.
- 48:02Speaker 2: He's a Swede, by the way, fucking.
- 48:05Speaker 3: Swedes, I know.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but so.
- 48:08Speaker 3: Emma Dane, we have to hate them.
- 48:10Speaker 8: All right.
- 48:11Speaker 1: So my overall point is this what the line that's
- 48:15Speaker 1: being overstepped here is she didn't get the relationship she wanted.
- 48:20Speaker 3: Or she didn't want a relationship and didn't know how
- 48:22Speaker 3: to put her foot down, or or she could have
- 48:26Speaker 3: Like was she getting paid for this gig moderating his ship?
- 48:31Speaker 2: No?
- 48:32Speaker 3: Was this her job? Or was she just a volunteer, right,
- 48:35Speaker 3: because if she was just a volunteer, she could have
- 48:37Speaker 3: been like, yeah, you know, I don't need this crap.
- 48:40Speaker 2: Yeah, but she gets to tell the people that she moderates.
- 48:42Speaker 2: This guy, he.
- 48:44Speaker 1: Didn't want a relationship with her, as far as I
- 48:48Speaker 1: can tell, that was the problem.
- 48:50Speaker 3: Maybe he wanted to flirt with her. Maybe he wanted
- 48:53Speaker 3: a relationship with her, right, maybe he did. I don't
- 48:56Speaker 3: know what's in his head. But even if that's what
- 48:58Speaker 3: he wanted, even if he wanted a little flirtation on
- 49:01Speaker 3: the side, just like to like give him the tangles, right,
- 49:05Speaker 3: you know, no one that like a woman's attracted to
- 49:07Speaker 3: him or something or feeling like that, even if it's
- 49:10Speaker 3: not true. Right, Okay, that's perfectly legal, right, And uh,
- 49:18Speaker 3: and cheating on your girlfriend is also not a crime
- 49:23Speaker 3: unless you're living in the fucking Middle East.
- 49:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's kind of it's kind of shitty,
- 49:27Speaker 2: but it's not a crime.
- 49:28Speaker 1: No, it's not a crime. None of this is a crime.
- 49:31Speaker 1: And it's also like the line that he's overstepping if
- 49:35Speaker 1: there is one, Like if he's overstepping, like if she's
- 49:39Speaker 1: spiraling because he might have a partner, then he's overstepping
- 49:43Speaker 1: because he's flirting with her even though he has a partner,
- 49:48Speaker 1: because he's not going to give her the relationship she wants.
- 49:52Speaker 3: Or if this is flirting, yeah, or or I don't know,
- 49:56Speaker 3: maybe maybe at some point further up on right, she's
- 50:02Speaker 3: she's hoping that he will leave his partner. Well, I
- 50:06Speaker 3: can guarantee you, honey, I can guarantee you. You don't
- 50:12Speaker 3: want to be the bridge he walks across to leave
- 50:15Speaker 3: his partner because he's gonna leave you too, right, Because
- 50:19Speaker 3: it's really because the bridge is a bridge to a
- 50:24Speaker 3: destination that isn't you.
- 50:28Speaker 1: The timeline of this is very bizarre. So they initiate
- 50:31Speaker 1: this Skype called the Sype Conversation August twenty first, Right,
- 50:39Speaker 1: so this is when this. Did they get to this
- 50:42Speaker 1: I guess second base or first base? No, they halfway
- 50:46Speaker 1: to first base. And then she's sending him messages, so
- 50:53Speaker 1: he didn't contact her between like the twenty first to
- 50:57Speaker 1: the twenty six and she's talking about how they ghost
- 51:05Speaker 1: He ghosts them for weeks one, two weeks randomly.
- 51:09Speaker 3: So yeah, even in the discord.
- 51:12Speaker 1: Yes, he just skype too, in Skype too, Yeah, No, so.
- 51:17Speaker 3: He just he just basically disappears randomly. That's yeah. I
- 51:21Speaker 3: mean I can totally I can totally relate to that
- 51:27Speaker 3: because I disappear randomly. I don't pick up the phone often.
- 51:32Speaker 3: My mother and law I'll call. I'm like, I don't
- 51:34Speaker 3: fucking feel like talking to anybody, like anybody, anybody, right,
- 51:38Speaker 3: And it's just like, yeah, no, I'm busy typing up
- 51:42Speaker 3: this thing that I hope some fucking senator in the
- 51:46Speaker 3: United States, right will actually I'll be able to actually
- 51:50Speaker 3: get it to them. By the way, do you know
- 51:51Speaker 3: anybody in Kentucky Wisconsin? No?
- 52:00Speaker 2: Uh no, I mean kind of, but I don't think
- 52:03Speaker 2: that I have their ear, like is Hejarriff?
- 52:10Speaker 4: No?
- 52:10Speaker 3: No, no, because because because the only the only way
- 52:13Speaker 3: that you can actually message these fucking senators and congress people,
- 52:18Speaker 3: okay in the US, is if you live in their
- 52:23Speaker 3: district or in their state. Yeah, yeah, right, and you
- 52:27Speaker 3: have to fill in the address with the zip code
- 52:29Speaker 3: and everything, and and so I don't know how to.
- 52:32Speaker 2: Well, maybe somebody in the chat lives in Kentucky or Wisconsin. Yeah,
- 52:37Speaker 2: I know one of our one of our old supporters
- 52:40Speaker 2: lived in Wisconsin. I can't remember his name though.
- 52:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I want I want to get a hold of
- 52:47Speaker 3: rand Paul red.
- 52:48Speaker 2: Locked guy with a beard, kind of a hippie. Vegan there,
- 52:53Speaker 2: Jeremy Hello, okay.
- 52:55Speaker 3: Paul ron Johnson, Tom Thomas Massey. And that's that's that's
- 53:06Speaker 3: probably the.
- 53:08Speaker 1: Now we're getting off topic. If anybody who follows us,
- 53:12Speaker 1: just send us a message in discord, or you can
- 53:14Speaker 1: send it to Badger at feed the badger dot com.
- 53:17Speaker 3: If you're in content, you can get me directly in
- 53:19Speaker 3: touch with Trump.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, okay, so okay, so far nothing actionable and
- 53:29Speaker 1: the only line he appears to cross as being is
- 53:31Speaker 1: flirting with someone while he's in a relationship with someone else.
- 53:34Speaker 3: Possibly well and maybe maybe she doesn't want him to
- 53:37Speaker 3: flirt with her and she thinks it's harassment, in which
- 53:43Speaker 3: case just log off.
- 53:46Speaker 1: Yeah, but why would she spiral after finding out he
- 53:49Speaker 1: has a sexual partner, a potential sexual partner. That's what
- 53:52Speaker 1: instigated it. Not like you have to read this, Karen.
- 53:55Speaker 1: It's not she's upset over the flirting. She's upset of
- 54:00Speaker 1: the fact he has a partner.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 54:03Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's not this is he didn't give her
- 54:07Speaker 1: the relationship she wanted. Therefore he's doing something bad, therefore
- 54:12Speaker 1: she's going to destroy him. Yeah, at least that's what
- 54:17Speaker 1: I mean.
- 54:18Speaker 3: Where is what it looks like you?
- 54:19Speaker 1: Where's the beef?
- 54:22Speaker 2: It was about a month after talking to a that
- 54:24Speaker 2: Iskall tried for the last time to get me to
- 54:27Speaker 2: respond to his advances, which I will show you, and
- 54:30Speaker 2: after that he never talked on Skype again. The date
- 54:34Speaker 2: was December sixteenth, twenty twenty three, which will be important.
- 54:38Speaker 2: And then here's another screenshot. What you paranoid about? You
- 54:42Speaker 2: can't be afraid of things in life, cast I want
- 54:44Speaker 2: to give you an advice. Please start grabbing things, take
- 54:47Speaker 2: what you want. Practice with me. I won't ever be
- 54:50Speaker 2: offended by anything. I'm very laid back. And then she replied,
- 54:54Speaker 2: I know, sir, you are a very sweet loll heart emoji.
- 54:58Speaker 2: Trust I don't know if it's off a little bit
- 55:02Speaker 2: heart emoji. Grip further than you think you dare with me.
- 55:04Speaker 2: Try me. I got you, heart, And then I don't
- 55:07Speaker 2: know what that says because it's like kind of cut off.
- 55:10Speaker 2: And then he says, yeah, I appreciate you.
- 55:13Speaker 1: I would want to be able to see that.
- 55:16Speaker 3: It's important.
- 55:17Speaker 2: You gotta try me harder, go on, push barriers, dear casts, sir?
- 55:22Speaker 2: Why are they? Why do they call each other? Sir?
- 55:24Speaker 2: It's just weird. So you can see his last ditch
- 55:28Speaker 2: go ahead.
- 55:29Speaker 3: But okay, So is that like a problem with the embedding.
- 55:34Speaker 2: That I can't tell this is like a file of
- 55:38Speaker 2: some kind, right, yeah, maybe so it might be a
- 55:41Speaker 2: but like I don't know, I don't know it just
- 55:43Speaker 2: it seems really weird that it's cut off like that.
- 55:46Speaker 3: Okay, can you scroll? Can you slide across like like
- 55:50Speaker 3: try and push it like a.
- 55:54Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a slider or something, she says, lowell, she says, lol, okay.
- 56:02Speaker 1: But also also this is him saying, hey, try me.
- 56:07Speaker 1: You know you can. You can do what you want
- 56:09Speaker 1: with me. Even if this is sexual force, there's no force.
- 56:13Speaker 1: He's just basically saying I'm available if you'll give it
- 56:16Speaker 1: a try. There's no force here.
- 56:19Speaker 2: M hmm.
- 56:19Speaker 1: Okay, and then she's like nope, and he doesn't respond
- 56:22Speaker 1: to her at all. Okay, So more, are you even
- 56:27Speaker 1: allowed to say, hey, I am sexually available to you
- 56:30Speaker 1: if you want no pressure, give it a go. Men
- 56:34Speaker 1: can't even do that.
- 56:36Speaker 2: Okay, So she basically uses this. I just sort of
- 56:43Speaker 2: skimmed the rest, but I'll read this paragraph and then
- 56:46Speaker 2: we'll jump down to the bottom here so you can
- 56:48Speaker 2: see his last ditch attempt to get me to respond
- 56:50Speaker 2: favorably to his now blatantly sexual advances, which I feel
- 56:53Speaker 2: uncomfortable showing. Yeah, I don't see anything really sexual. It's
- 56:58Speaker 2: actually kind of weird and definitely like.
- 57:01Speaker 3: No, it's it's definitely low key.
- 57:06Speaker 2: But she's calling it blatant, blatantly sexual.
- 57:10Speaker 3: Didn't he didn't say, I want to clap your cheeks.
- 57:13Speaker 2: But I mean, I've I know what blatantly sexual, you know,
- 57:17Speaker 2: texts look like, and that's not even close. It's not
- 57:21Speaker 2: even close. I mean, I know that it's not. I'm
- 57:23Speaker 2: not saying it's innocent. I'm saying that it's very, very
- 57:26Speaker 2: very it's low key. It's it's tame is the word
- 57:31Speaker 2: I would use. It's very tame. If yeah, it's super right,
- 57:35Speaker 2: it's like rated.
- 57:37Speaker 3: G it's people could see the private chats, the d
- 57:44Speaker 3: ms on my okay Cupid profile. Mm hmmm, you know
- 57:48Speaker 3: between when when I divorced and when I met Mike. Yeah,
- 57:53Speaker 3: they'd be like just like you talk to men like
- 57:58Speaker 3: a dozen men like that. It's like, yeah, because you
- 58:02Speaker 3: know what, I just I just fucking say what I
- 58:06Speaker 3: want to say. Did you not hear about the twenty
- 58:09Speaker 3: three year olds? There's twenty of them.
- 58:11Speaker 2: So just know that the hermits have all mine and
- 58:15Speaker 2: they need so I don't feel like I have to
- 58:16Speaker 2: share such messages publicly when they exist privately where it
- 58:20Speaker 2: needs to for evidence's sake. I'm sure everyone knows that
- 58:24Speaker 2: no one has ever been publicly removed from hermit craft,
- 58:27Speaker 2: so I hope you all can have faith in the
- 58:29Speaker 2: hermit's judgment. Besides, miners will probably read this, and I
- 58:32Speaker 2: would like them to not have to see anything sexual.
- 58:36Speaker 2: It's like, I'm sorry, but like there are kids on
- 58:40Speaker 2: TikTok that are looking at troons trying to get them
- 58:43Speaker 2: to take fucking meds to like make their tits fall off.
- 58:47Speaker 2: Like this is nothing, okay, So let's jump down a
- 58:52Speaker 2: bit here. I want to get to this bit. So
- 58:55Speaker 2: she's claiming it's funny because it's like this thing that
- 58:59Speaker 2: Allison has brought up where if you want to if
- 59:01Speaker 2: you're watching a film or somebody's making a film and
- 59:04Speaker 2: they want to like show like some emotional moment that
- 59:07Speaker 2: has tremendous impact, they what they will do if they
- 59:10Speaker 2: don't think the actual moment itself is enough, they'll cut
- 59:13Speaker 2: to a reaction. And it's usually from a woman. So
- 59:16Speaker 2: when a woman is having like a hysterical experience, then
- 59:20Speaker 2: we as people are just gonna say it must be serious,
- 59:23Speaker 2: because otherwise a woman wouldn't be doing this. And that's
- 59:25Speaker 2: what I'm getting from this. She's basically saying this is
- 59:28Speaker 2: all very triggering and then showing it to us and
- 59:31Speaker 2: then saying, well, I had to keep the really bad
- 59:33Speaker 2: stuff away. So but as you can see, this is
- 59:36Speaker 2: really bad and we're looking at it like I don't
- 59:38Speaker 2: see anything, like what are you talking about? And what
- 59:41Speaker 2: the people in your community are like? Oh man, I
- 59:43Speaker 2: must be serious because I mean, look at look at that.
- 59:46Speaker 2: There's a heart emoji there. He said, hug what He
- 59:52Speaker 2: also kind of masher or cad? Is this what kind
- 59:55Speaker 2: of what kind of.
- 59:57Speaker 3: He also said, you gotta try me harder?
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: I think this is.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: This is the payload, right, I think this is the payload.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: That's where I'm trying to get to the payload. Where
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: is it?
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: He was romantically involved with Ice Call for three years.
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: During that time, he attempted to mess with me the
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: communication he had with B was stopped when his attempts
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: on me failed. Attempts on you, that's not an attempt
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: he resumed. He resumed his romantic involvement with B, claiming
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: he had been hacked, and apologized profusely. This news is
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: extremely painful for her, as she deeply cared for him
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: and was emotionally invested in their online connection. They even
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: had planned They even planned to meet in person, and
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: he had shared personal intimate details with her which he
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: hadn't shared with others. Then ten ten days later, be
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: found mel Felt another victim. Mef, has made her own
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: statement that you can find Mef and I had very
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: similar timeline of him starting around August than giving up
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: on us the same day of December sixteenth, before going
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: back to B. Meph is very likely to come up
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: with her own story soon, but for now, we'll keep
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: her name out of it until she tells me otherwise.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: You know that, like I message people on discord, and
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: sometimes I talk to one person for a bit and
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: then I talk to another person for a bit, there's
- 1:01:18Speaker 1: no sinister thing going on, and considering what you've shared
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: doesn't really support like a very explicit attempt at a
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: sexual relationship. I mean, he could be talking about you
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: grabbing life by the balls metaphorically. He didn't even use
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: the term balls. I didn't even put that out there,
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: grab life by the horns. You could be using that
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: metaphorically that you need to get out there by the horny. Yeah,
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: just go get out there and get what you want.
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: Not even with the sexual implication.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: No, she makes it sound like he put his dick
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: on the table and then said that.
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: Yeah, even if he did though.
- 1:01:56Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I know I know Karen, I know.
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: Strong, strong, And that's.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: Like for her to claim that this is as traumatic
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: as it is is a real massive stretch, like this
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: is some mister fantastic ship and this guy lost everything
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: over this.
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: I'm gonna need to see the four fingers up the
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: bunghole on freaking Skype camp.
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: No, that's not, that's not. They're accusing him of manipulation
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: and misconduct, manipulation social internet media clout.
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: Every social interaction is a manipulation. Yes, every single social.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: Job interview is a manipulation.
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: Yes, like going to the cashier with your purchases and
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: telling them a joke that makes them laugh. Yep, or
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: complaining in such a way that it's funny and it
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: makes them laugh.
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to fure out what your wife wants for
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: dinner is a manipulation difficulty level impossible.
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, it's whatever you want. Okay, I
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: want this, No, not that me and why this is why,
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: even though I'm I am a certified switch hitter, I
- 1:03:18Speaker 3: would never be in a relationship with a woman.
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: But and Math received his pictures of an explicit nature,
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: although I managed to avoid them.
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: Oh but they're totally out there, guys, trust us, they're
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: out there. They're super explicit. What is it? A minecraft
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: guy with like skin colored legs come into the Look
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: at the look at the town I built?
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: You know how you avoid dick pics? And I'm talking
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: to the ladies here as few of them as there are,
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: but you know this is good advice. Okay, if you're
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: on a dating site or whatever, just putting your profile,
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: no dick pics. Please. If I like you, I'll like
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: your dick. Just fine. It's not gonna help you. Like,
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: it's not gonna offend me. But it's not gonna it's
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: not gonna like push me over, push it over. The
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: top right, because if I like you, I'll like your
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: dick just fine. Yeah, well, you know, unless it's like
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: riddled in like pustules and sores, but you know.
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: You assume that that's not Yeah, okay, So again, the
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: allegations are not criminal in nature. They're just manipulation and misconduct.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: Apparently he talked to multiple women, and some of them
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: felt like they were going to end up in a
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: relationship he was trying.
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: He was trying to cheat on his wife or his
- 1:04:52Speaker 3: common law wife. Maybe maybe maybe maybe just cyber cheating, and.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: Maybe just said things that were could be awkwardly misconstrued
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: as sexual, but we're intended as silly jokes.
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: Or or even if intended as a flirty sexual innuenda,
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: that not not criminal. Any One of these women could
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: have ghosted him, hmm, like he ghosts people. I ghost people.
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: It's like, it's not like it's impossible to fucking ghost
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: people to just not you know this. You call me
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: all the time, Allison, it's annoying.
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: Okay, I can text me, just text me. Usually I
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: call me what I'm trying to get a hold of
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: you quickly? All right, here's a explicit I wonder if
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: he sent them his Rule thirty four. Explicit content of
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: icy call Hentie to laugh at or something. I mean,
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: there's no specificity in this.
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: Explicit images yeah, Explicit images yeah.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: Explicit images of him as a cartoon took me just
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: like a.
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: Picture of like, you know, a n W A album
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: cover that has the warning label on it, explicit lyrics.
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: I don't know. It could be just some gangster rap
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: that he likes. He's just trying to listen to, uh
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: the d O C or Doctor.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: Dre And of course they're they're leaning on this idea
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: that uh, Hermit Craft has all of this other like
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: stuff that is even more damning. Oh god, I've seen
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: this before when women make allegations, they'll say, oh, this
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: is this is what he did. And I can't even
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: talk about the stuff that's.
- 1:06:51Speaker 9: Really bad because of the iceberg, because the bad.
- 1:06:56Speaker 4: Stuff is all under the water. We're you can't see it,
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: and I just don't want anybody to know. I'm afraid
- 1:07:06Speaker 4: that really really horrible things he said to me.
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: You know, you know what you know, Like, Okay, you
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: remember when when Anita Sarkisian that whole controversy was going
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: on and I was on a Thunderfoot video about Anita
- 1:07:19Speaker 3: Sarkisian mm hmmm. And there was this dude it was
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: from Australia, I think, but he had like he used
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: like a voice program to do his videos and he
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: like he was like his avatar was a chimpanzee. And
- 1:07:38Speaker 3: he was one of those in the like the the
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: what was her name freaking something? Which uh but you
- 1:07:50Speaker 3: know all these people who were like super trying to
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: get Thunderfoot in trouble, right, calling him a.
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: A like those people, yeah.
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: Yeah, people like that Holocaust DENI are right, you know,
- 1:08:03Speaker 3: like and Christie Winters, you know.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: Like yeah no thunder splinter Steve.
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah those people right.
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: So this guy ken A Potato Logan.
- 1:08:16Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Kevin Logan and Hannibal
- 1:08:23Speaker 10: the Victor, you know, who turned out to be like
- 1:08:25Speaker 10: a child sex offender no ship, yeah, but but yeah no.
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: So uh laughing witch, laughing witch, Yeah, yeah no, who
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: ended up having to disappear.
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: Yeah because she oh God, Kathy Griffin.
- 1:08:44Speaker 3: Like she just no, no, she she literally she literally
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: she docks Thunderfoot. Okay, And I don't I I don't
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: agree with ninety percent of what Thunderfoot says about politics, right,
- 1:08:59Speaker 3: But she docks and she showed an envelope, right, she
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: was mailing to the I think the Chechian government or
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: something like that, right, accusing him of Holocaust Denihalism, right,
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: And that's a crime in Europe, right, so he and
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: he works in certain European countries. Right, So he was
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: just like, what the hell? But her return address was
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: on it. So the Internet found out and she filmed this.
- 1:09:37Speaker 3: She filmed this. She posted the image of this envelope
- 1:09:41Speaker 3: online and said she was putting it in the mail
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: and everything. And so they found out that her husband
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: owned it, like a tubbery finishing business, and so they
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: like bombarded Yelp with like one star reviews. The best one,
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: the best one was one star review was I hired
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: these people to refinish my tub, but all they did
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: was paint swastikas all over my bathroom, right, and and
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: and I was just like, I was, this is this
- 1:10:15Speaker 3: is just desserts anyway. But so there was this Anita
- 1:10:19Speaker 3: Sarkisian video that Thunderfoot did and and I made a
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: comment and then this this ape guy from Australia. I'm
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: not thinking ape, thinking ape is actually.
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: Might have been naked Yeah, yeah, okay, because I think
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: I remember.
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: Yeah, it might have been naked ape anyway, So he
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: he replies to my comment, you're disgusting and a misogynist,
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: and I am going to find out where you live
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: and then I'm going to do every single thing to
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: you that Thunderfoot's followers have threatened to do to Anita Sarkisian.
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: And I came back with like, what, like, now, because
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: my kitchen's mess, there's dog hair all over the carpet,
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: and I haven't shaved my legs in weeks, can we
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: like postpone till next Tuesday? I should be ready for
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: company by then. And then he comes back with like,
- 1:11:30Speaker 3: what kind of woman are you? And I'm like, well,
- 1:11:33Speaker 3: the kind of woman who thinks you're going to board
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: an Australian plane and un fly twenty three hours to
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: come and rape me with a pipe bar, But I
- 1:11:42Speaker 3: don't think.
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, okay, all right, So we did find
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: somebody from Kentucky for you, all right?
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: Cool?
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: Oh well that's cool if he can, if he can
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: email me with his information and or or yeah, no
- 1:12:00Speaker 3: email me with his his just just email me so
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: that I have his email address and then and I.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: Never did the things right, so I should probably do
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: the things. I'll I'll arrange for that, but at.
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: The end of the show now, but go ahead do
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: the thing, okay.
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: So we have about four hundred dollars left to go
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: on the fundraiser and not a lot of time. Yeah,
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: so maybe we should magic up on a small extra topic.
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- 1:12:41Speaker 1: should do the shout outs for the recent supporters this today.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: So today in the last call out, we had okay
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: fs for twenty two and fifty dollars, so thank you, okay,
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: thank you, uh Pepito, Pepito for fifty year.
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: Oh I wish I had some like godfather sounds because
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: that would probably be.
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: We can't.
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: Okay, well whatever.
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: Today of my.
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: Daughter's wedding, you guys could do it better than me.
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: And then thank you to hyper Chicken for two hundred
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- 1:13:32Speaker 3: And recent one just.
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: Came in during the show, I think, or before the
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- 1:13:53Speaker 1: me see I could give you an exact amount of
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: think about two hours left, so get it in if
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: you can, or one hour left and about yeah, four
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: hundred and five dollars, four hundred and five dollars. Guys,
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: let's let's get this done.
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: Let's get it there.
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get it there and get it done and
- 1:14:14Speaker 3: get it awa.
- 1:14:19Speaker 11: All right?
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: Uh so you want I got something else? I got like, uh,
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: potentially two other things if we have to, but I
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: definitely got one other thing. But is there anything left
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: with this story? Or we pretty much this has.
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: Been I'm so sick of this way.
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: It's been dry. And uh so.
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: He's being accused of misconduct. Of course, the police said
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: that there's nothing criminal, and people are like, well, let's
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: wait for the let's wait for the result of investigation.
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: Dudes and dude ats, there is nothing criminal here. It
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: is not a crime to string women on even multiple
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: women at the same time. There is no crime here.
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: The only thing even possibly coaching a crime is maybe
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: sending the explicit content, depending on in what context was
- 1:15:05Speaker 1: he sending it. Was it just a Rule thirty four
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: cartoon of him that he's just like sending to them
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: to laugh at. I mean, explicit content could meet a
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: lot of things, like a.
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: Couple could be a couple of Minecraft characters going at it. Yeah,
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: so we don't know, we don't pixelated.
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: Presumably the cops have also looked at it, and if
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: they've said there's nothing actionable, it's like there's nothing that
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: there is no crime that he is going to be
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: charged with. If he's charged with the crime, it'll be
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: a massive miscarriage of justice because there's no crime here, right,
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: well that we know of.
- 1:15:43Speaker 3: Well, Kevin, can you can you just I'm pretty sure
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: that the cops told him that there's no crime there.
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: You go, well, okay, but he's the only one who's
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: talked to the cops necessarily.
- 1:15:56Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, but if there was a crime, they would
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: have accused him of it.
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: Yeah, they just they just they just canceled him. That's
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: what they did.
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: Everything they've accused him of is hurt feelings.
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: Even it's even worse, and it's for less because now
- 1:16:13Speaker 2: his entire everything that he's put his time and energy
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: into has worked for his questioned Yeah, it's.
- 1:16:20Speaker 9: In limbo of hurt feelings based on what might just
- 1:16:25Speaker 9: be them reading into potentially a guy whose communication style
- 1:16:30Speaker 9: is more flirty and funny and bantery. You think do
- 1:16:35Speaker 9: you think that when Karen starts going on about her
- 1:16:37Speaker 9: bunghole she's in, I think she's inviting me to do
- 1:16:40Speaker 9: anything to it. No, it's just her communication style.
- 1:16:43Speaker 3: Well that's only because you're very annoying, Allison, and you
- 1:16:48Speaker 3: wouldn't make a good sexual partner.
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: Okay, wow, ouch, yeah, I'm just saying.
- 1:16:56Speaker 3: I'm just saying, your man, Christ Karen like roasted to me.
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: Somebody got killed on the stream. Then now now we
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: do have to call the cops.
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sorry, but.
- 1:17:12Speaker 2: All right, okay, all right, okay, but can I just
- 1:17:17Speaker 2: say though about this whole make it.
- 1:17:19Speaker 7: Murdering like that You got murder in the second here, Karen,
- 1:17:22Speaker 7: don't make it murder in the first.
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: Your camera's frozen for some reason. So there is some
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: good news I wanted to say.
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: I just got murdered. That's why.
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: That's right, she's dead. She's speaking to us from the
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: other dimensions, from the phantom zone. Yeah, she's hanging out
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: with King Kai, but.
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: She's in the multiverse where the quantum computers learn how
- 1:17:48Speaker 3: to solve problems super fast.
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: Yeah, so there is some I think there is some
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: good that could come of this, though, because he has
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: a million plus followers, and when I look in the
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: comment section, a lot of dudes are in there. A
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: lot of people, probably most of them dudes are completely supportive,
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: and they are if they're not supportive, they're certainly waking
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: up and they're getting red pilled by this. It's it's
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: unfortunate that it happened. But I do see a lot
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: of people that are, like, I don't see anyone against him.
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: Well, okay, but but is he moderating his comments and.
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: Getting rid of I mean, he seems to like use
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: other people for that. So because based on the story,
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: but I'm guessing that, like, I think that there is
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: amongst young men in particular a shift happening. They are
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: not oh yeah, they are not putting up with this
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: shit anymore. This is the new mood for all, Like
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: the zoomer men these days, I don't really care, Margaret.
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: That is the slogan of twenty twenty five. Yeah, and
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: I see it everywhere, So I think that that's weirdful,
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: I know. But the other thing I want to show
- 1:19:04Speaker 2: you was something a little bit more positive as well.
- 1:19:07Speaker 2: So there is this This is from asmen Gold, but
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: it's about a Twitter account. I think it's a funny
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: little story that I think is also a sign of
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: the times here so.
- 1:19:20Speaker 3: Impressing me lately.
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's not him per se. It's that
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: what he's going to be reacting to that we're looking at.
- 1:19:27Speaker 12: So, so, this guy on Twitter has been basically the eliminator.
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: Of females on the internet.
- 1:19:36Speaker 12: So basically all he does is he just posts girls
- 1:19:40Speaker 12: pictures and then makes fun of them. This gentleman is
- 1:19:43Speaker 12: the reality check context.
- 1:19:45Speaker 5: The guy is not actually going out of his way
- 1:19:47Speaker 5: to make fun of random girls. You see. This went
- 1:19:50Speaker 5: so viral because it all started with a girl making
- 1:19:53Speaker 5: fun of the guy's face, and from.
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: So, a woman looked made fun of this guy's face
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: called him a walm umpa lumpa.
- 1:20:01Speaker 5: Yeah, it exploded with a chain of girls trying to
- 1:20:04Speaker 5: attack him.
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: So a bunch of women got involved and dog piled
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: him nineteen point four million views, okay.
- 1:20:13Speaker 5: With a chain of girls trying to attack him while
- 1:20:16Speaker 5: the guy ruthlessly called them out one by one.
- 1:20:19Speaker 11: Ma'am, why does it look like your nose is throwing
- 1:20:21Speaker 11: it back on me?
- 1:20:22Speaker 13: So he is coming for these women pretty, and you're
- 1:20:28Speaker 13: the opposite. Sucks to suck, no wonder, you're a bitter loser.
- 1:20:31Speaker 11: Whoever is gassing these females up. You have to stop, you.
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: This woman. Remember that Remember on Seinfeld when Jerry was
- 1:20:42Speaker 2: dating that chain. Yeah, yeah, okay, So this is I
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: love this because I think that these women need to
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: be like humbled, and he's willing to do it. He
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: doesn't get a ship.
- 1:21:01Speaker 11: Never is gassing these females up. You have to stop.
- 1:21:04Speaker 11: You look like the human embodiment of gonner rhea.
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: All right, think I'm bad?
- 1:21:07Speaker 11: You look like a walking yeast infection. Insecurities are disgustingly abhorrent.
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: Relaxed waterhead. He'll get to you when he makes his
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: way further down the ladder.
- 1:21:17Speaker 13: I'd never be so desperate in my life to stoop
- 1:21:19Speaker 13: so low. I refuse solid tens daily.
- 1:21:22Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, oh no, it's coming.
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: Solids daily.
- 1:21:37Speaker 4: You know this.
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: It's not a person who wins the fight isn't the strongest.
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: It's the one who's willing to risk the most. And
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: it's like the woman who.
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: Was willing to like freaking go the extra month to
- 1:21:53Speaker 3: like take the punches and.
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: Bite some ankle or bite some jabs.
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, bite a chunk a ear off.
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: It's wait wait, Mangaka ninety two said, refuse solid tense
- 1:22:09Speaker 2: daily is number ten. The salad. There's a little bit
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: more like.
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: Alison and I know we're not lookers. We don't act
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: like we're lookers, right.
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: Not right, That's just what I'm saying, Like this is delusion.
- 1:22:28Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, oh god, And the girl went on bro,
- 1:22:32Speaker 12: she went on protected mode after this.
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: Jesus, your eyebrows don't even want you know. That was
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: the woman who called him what did? She insulted him,
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: and then somebody said he'll get to you. Uh, you're
- 1:22:47Speaker 2: wanting to go back to it? Did you miss this part? Okay?
- 1:22:49Speaker 11: Hold on Like the human embodiment of gonorrhea, ma'am, you
- 1:22:53Speaker 11: look like a walking yeast infection.
- 1:22:55Speaker 13: Your insecurities are disgustingly abhorrent.
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: Relax, waterhead, He'll get to you when he makes his
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: way further down the ladder.
- 1:23:02Speaker 13: I'd never be so desperate in my life to stoop
- 1:23:04Speaker 13: so low. I refuse Solid tens daily.
- 1:23:12Speaker 11: What the hell's going on?
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: The boss music chef's kiss? Okay, so yeah, go ahead?
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: What was that, Alison? What huh?
- 1:23:27Speaker 3: What universe are we living in? When that looks like that?
- 1:23:31Speaker 3: Can can say in public? I turned down Solid tens
- 1:23:38Speaker 3: daily like Brad Pitt and David Beckham beating the fucking
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: path to her bedroom door, like, not even for a one.
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: Nighter this guy? Okay, So Allison, what were you asked?
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: Are you said? Did you get the she called him insecure?
- 1:24:00Speaker 3: Yes?
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: And then and then let's keep going. I'm good.
- 1:24:03Speaker 12: It looks like you've had so many abortions. Your pussy's
- 1:24:05Speaker 12: haunted great value, hawked to a.
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: Great value, hawk to a you know, great value. You
- 1:24:12Speaker 2: know what that is? That's like the store brand? Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- 1:24:18Speaker 12: I don't even know if this picture is AI generated.
- 1:24:20Speaker 12: I don't even know if this guy is real or not.
- 1:24:22Speaker 12: I don't think it really matters, but it's just so
- 1:24:25Speaker 12: fucking funny to see this stuff happening.
- 1:24:27Speaker 2: He's going super viral. So I have his I went
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: to his Twitter page and here he is. He's the
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: the Beards and Beardley and apparently, you know, he has
- 1:24:37Speaker 2: a YouTube channel stuff and he's just gone viral as
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: for hell. So now he sells a shirt. He's like
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: monetizing his haters, like Alpha Malem t shirt for sale
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: by Beards and Beardley had some people ask for it.
- 1:24:53Speaker 2: So here it is. He just did this like yesterday,
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: official beards and shirt. Buy it, support your boy. And yeah.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: So like he's very based, not just like willing to,
- 1:25:05Speaker 2: you know, check women online that get that get too
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: big for their breitches, but he doesn't. Yeah, like here's okay, yeah, yeah,
- 1:25:17Speaker 2: And what's this one, ma'am? I think you meant to say, hi,
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this one is. Uh so he's just giving
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: it to the And by the way, this guy's been
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: online for a while, but he's gone viral because of
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: this specific thing. So this person, Lily's Double O seven says,
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: as a high value woman, I'll only marry a handsome
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: virgin who's over six foot and makes at least sixty
- 1:25:40Speaker 2: six thousand a year. So you're doing great, sweetie, and
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: he says, ma'am, I think you meant to say high
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: calorie woman. Oh no, I miss video games before women
- 1:25:54Speaker 2: ruined them. So yeah, it's just that I don't know.
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: It's great, but he reminds me of bearing. He's like
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: an he's like an American bearing. Yeah no, but an
- 1:26:06Speaker 3: American bearing and sugar tits put together. Have you watched
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: their recent stuff?
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: Yes?
- 1:26:12Speaker 5: I have.
- 1:26:13Speaker 3: I have hilariously fucking hilarious, Like I love it when
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: they get together, and because like the back and forth
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: between them is like so perfect.
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
- 1:26:25Speaker 3: I should do content with my husband like that.
- 1:26:29Speaker 2: That would be hilarious too.
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:26:32Speaker 2: So yeah, who startedism versus who? I wish? But it's
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: still funny, all right, that's beautiful. I can't I can't
- 1:26:50Speaker 2: retweet this because it's Allison's account, But okay, so Petpeo
- 1:26:56Speaker 2: gives us twenty five dollars in super Challenge, says, honey
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: the Badger, You guys are too funny. Well, I can't
- 1:27:03Speaker 2: take credit. This guy beard beards and it's all him.
- 1:27:08Speaker 2: I just found it. I'm just the middle man. So
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: I just brought this to you.
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: I just thought that.
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: What the what the hell is going on was so
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: it was so perfect because like, where am I.
- 1:27:28Speaker 2: Exactly anyway?
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: So are you Okay? I think I think I might
- 1:27:42Speaker 3: follow this guy because he's amusing.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: Oh, very funny.
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: I'm here. Yeah, I'm still, you know, recovering from being
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: killed by Karen.
- 1:27:53Speaker 3: Hey, I'm just saying we wouldn't be sexually compatible, Alison. Okay, No,
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: you seem altogether too prudish. You're like anal.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: I w I'm just saying we don't need to like,
- 1:28:10Speaker 1: uh advertise, Yeah, advertise what don't don't puncture the uh,
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: the the fantasies of the people who are watching, or
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: some of them, or at least well maybe no, maybe
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: actually you're encouraging the fantasy of never nothing ever happening.
- 1:28:29Speaker 3: Yekay, No, it's Brian is also safe yes, me.
- 1:28:37Speaker 1: Uh from sexual harassment by Karen.
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: Oh.
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: Thanks, okay, Karen, you don't need to kill us all
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: multiple times.
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's not it's not it's not that
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: I don't have a man. I have a man, and
- 1:28:55Speaker 3: I'm postman apausal. There's only so much I can keep
- 1:28:58Speaker 3: up with no.
- 1:29:00Speaker 2: Nose but no father either.
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: Oh jesus, oh, I just had the weirdest, Like the best.
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: Thing is how happy he seems to be.
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: I had the weirdest.
- 1:29:14Speaker 3: It really does seem he really does seem to be
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: like very.
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: Cheerful, jovial.
- 1:29:19Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's convivial and okay, and that means.
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: Feed the Badger dot com slash support. If you want
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: to support the show, you enjoy our painful banter. And uh,
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: I actually got a really crazy insult a couple of
- 1:29:39Speaker 1: days ago from a feminist who said, your your men's
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: rights advocacy won't make your father love you. And I'm like,
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: I know it won't because he already does, like.
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: No, no, no, And it's like, oh, she's a pick me,
- 1:29:59Speaker 3: she's pick me. Yeah, that's why I don't wear makeup
- 1:30:02Speaker 3: on fucking camera. Yeah, because I'm a pig, right, Okay,
- 1:30:06Speaker 3: false eyelashes like freaking keep talking retard, you know exactly. Yeah, yeah, no,
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: I'm lip injections and whatever, right, like I'm not, I'm
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: not looking for anybody. And and I I actually I
- 1:30:24Speaker 3: did used to wear makeup on camera, a little bit,
- 1:30:27Speaker 3: tiny bit, a little bit of concealer, right, and a
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: little bit of eyeliner and mascara and that's it, right,
- 1:30:35Speaker 3: and uh, and and then I was just like, you know,
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: because people would be like, you know, guys would would
- 1:30:44Speaker 3: be like, oh, you're so beautiful, and and I'm like,
- 1:30:48Speaker 3: that's not why I'm here doing this.
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: I'm here to say something.
- 1:30:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here to say something, and I don't want
- 1:30:55Speaker 3: to distract from that. So then I just decided to
- 1:30:57Speaker 3: stop wearing makeup on camera.
- 1:31:00Speaker 1: So okay, all right, so I'll do a final check.
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: So I think we sort of stalled out at four
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: hundred and ten or four hundred and five. Let's yeah,
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: we're getting pretty close, guys, so please help out if you.
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: Can do it, or you'll hear from me.
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll hear from Karen.
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: Yeah, although it won't be nice. Yeah, it won't be flirty.
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: She'll try to kill you, just like she killed me today.
- 1:31:30Speaker 3: Uh.
- 1:31:32Speaker 1: Feed the Badger dot com slash support and again, if
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: you want to send a message in the last few
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: seconds that we have, feed the Badger dot com slash
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: just the tip M Is there anything further, Brian? So
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: this is a really short show, but no.
- 1:31:46Speaker 2: What are you talking about? We started at four, it's
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: almost six. How is it short?
- 1:31:51Speaker 3: It's it's been a.
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: Trying to be records.
- 1:31:56Speaker 3: An it's been an hour and forty Okay, come on
- 1:32:00Speaker 3: the usual like three four hours.
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: I don't know, No, that's the goal of mine for
- 1:32:07Speaker 2: a while. I'm people don't watch if it's like two
- 1:32:11Speaker 2: hours long. I mean maybe we have a few weirdos
- 1:32:14Speaker 2: that will, but the average person won't, like if they
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: see two hours, three hours, they're not gonna watch it,
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: unless it's like they'll.
- 1:32:22Speaker 3: Watch a little bit and then they'll like, they'll be like, oh,
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: I'm sick of this already.
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's not I know, it sounds like it's
- 1:32:32Speaker 2: dunk on Alison Day. I'm not trying to, but.
- 1:32:34Speaker 3: No, it's probably it's probably because of me and all
- 1:32:37Speaker 3: my like asides, because I don't actually want to talk
- 1:32:40Speaker 3: about the subjects that you guys pick.
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: So yeah, nobody does. That's why.
- 1:32:45Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know, if if we want to talk vaccines,
- 1:32:49Speaker 3: I can. I can do that, but yeah, I don't
- 1:32:51Speaker 3: want to.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: I don't want to be eatd so hard off of
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: YouTube that I die a second time.
- 1:32:56Speaker 3: M hm. Maybe I'll just have to make a video,
- 1:33:00Speaker 3: make a new.
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: Channel, make a video. I don't I think it's probably
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: like we're in the clear on that now it's being discussed.
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: Yeah, it's allowed to be discussed. Yeah.
- 1:33:11Speaker 3: Well nothing, nothing that I have to say about them
- 1:33:15Speaker 3: is not provable.
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
- 1:33:19Speaker 1: So yeah, that's I mean, sure.
- 1:33:23Speaker 3: No, that's that's been my obsession for the last like
- 1:33:26Speaker 3: little while.
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: I'd rather talk about all of the stuff going on
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: in Canada and the tariffs.
- 1:33:31Speaker 3: At this point, I don't even talk about the tariffs.
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I think that I think that they
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: might be a good thing because it's getting people to
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: smarten up. Yeah, well, the pipelines and you know, the
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: US being our only customer, not.
- 1:33:52Speaker 3: Our only customer, but our biggest customer. Yeah. And and
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: also like, I'm sorry, but like it when Trudeau said
- 1:34:03Speaker 3: to when sorry, Trump said to Trudeau, if you can't,
- 1:34:07Speaker 3: if you can't survive economically without ripping the US off,
- 1:34:13Speaker 3: maybe you should just become the fifty first state. You
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: can be governor, right, And and I was like like,
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: and I tweeted about it. I was like and then
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: a bunch of people on both sides of the border
- 1:34:25Speaker 3: took it seriously. It was just a joke, meant to
- 1:34:29Speaker 3: humiliate him in front of other people, right and uh,
- 1:34:35Speaker 3: And then people were like, oh my god, he's gonna
- 1:34:38Speaker 3: add ex Canada with the military, you know. And uh
- 1:34:43Speaker 3: and and I'm like, are you fucking retarded? Right? The
- 1:34:46Speaker 3: twenty five tariffs, Like, here's what, here's how Trump negotiates.
- 1:34:53Speaker 3: He comes up with a completely unreasonable opening bid. Okay,
- 1:34:59Speaker 3: it's it's designed to be unreasonable because then every concession
- 1:35:04Speaker 3: he makes, right, including what he actually wants, looks reasonable
- 1:35:10Speaker 3: in comparison. Okay, and you're more likely to accept it. Okay. Well,
- 1:35:16Speaker 3: now the twenty five percent tariffs the unreasonable opening bid. Well, now,
- 1:35:22Speaker 3: the unreasonable opening bid is fifty first state, and the
- 1:35:26Speaker 3: twenty five percent tariffs is the reasonable alternative. Congratulations, Canada,
- 1:35:33Speaker 3: you screwed yourself. Yeah. And if we're that dumb, we
- 1:35:37Speaker 3: deserve those tariffs.
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, what I'm hoping is that it'll just smarten
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: people up. And uh, I mean, Daniel Smith is actually
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: just trying to secure the border. I know, Moe's doing
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: something similar.
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: I believe too, you know, and like Rob Ford is
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: like really try and like smooth thing is over right,
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: appearing on Fox News and stuff like that, Doug Ford,
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: But hi, Mike, they.
- 1:36:13Speaker 1: Having anyway, Yeah, we really appreciate the courtesy.
- 1:36:21Speaker 3: You're lucked out. But but yeah no, it's like, so
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: doug Ford is like kind of like, I don't I
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: think he's and Trudeau is like, we're going to do
- 1:36:33Speaker 3: retaliatory tears, and it's like, really, really you're gonna try that.
- 1:36:41Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but there's there's really no. We don't have
- 1:36:47Speaker 3: a bargaining position here. Our economy has shrunk under Trudeau.
- 1:36:52Speaker 3: Yeah right, all right, so I'm sorry. We were in
- 1:36:58Speaker 3: no place to actually bargain and that's the fault of
- 1:37:02Speaker 3: the retards who voted Trudeau into office for the last
- 1:37:09Speaker 3: nine years.
- 1:37:11Speaker 1: Oh cool. I think we're going to have a thank
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: you to give pretty soon.
- 1:37:15Speaker 2: Oh cool.
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, it's just taking a bit because you know,
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: or maybe it's not going to come through, who knows.
- 1:37:23Speaker 2: Don't worry. We don't want to annex Canada. That would
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: screw us up.
- 1:37:27Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No more electoral college votes.
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: Maybe maybe just maybe just Alberta and Saskatchewan and that's it,
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: and then the Quebec and and BC and all that
- 1:37:38Speaker 2: those can stay.
- 1:37:39Speaker 3: Ottawa no, no, no, Northern everything else, Greater Vancouver Regional
- 1:37:45Speaker 3: disc go down.
- 1:37:46Speaker 1: There's one tweet I want to read like you keep
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: going past it but not reading it. It's the one
- 1:37:51Speaker 1: with the if you're not a virgin or something.
- 1:37:55Speaker 2: I didn't I closed that that table.
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: Oh okay, don't worry, I won't you. I guess mes weirdly.
- 1:38:08Speaker 2: Uh, this is a tweet.
- 1:38:10Speaker 3: What is it?
- 1:38:11Speaker 2: Okay, I'll share it. You just show me where I'm
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: Where am I looking?
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: Okay? Uh yeah? Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going,
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: keep going. Uh no, maybe maybe it's not here. It's
- 1:38:29Speaker 1: just more and more women.
- 1:38:33Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean he said he was an insult
- 1:38:35Speaker 2: in one of them.
- 1:38:36Speaker 1: Oh right here, right here, this one. Okay, no, no,
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: up above it, up above it. This one women virgin,
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: no tattoos, no face piercing, less than four for one
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: hundred pounds, Catholic, know how to cook and clean, good
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: relationship with father, Then don't waste my time.
- 1:38:54Speaker 2: These are the type of men that can't build a
- 1:38:56Speaker 2: shd or change a tire. You have no dad? Yeah
- 1:39:00Speaker 2: it was uh yeah it was below this one.
- 1:39:03Speaker 1: Why this is I'm guessing that these women don't realize
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: that he's mocking their standards.
- 1:39:09Speaker 2: Yeah, but of course they don't realize it because when
- 1:39:13Speaker 2: they see men list off a bunch of standards. Even
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: if it's just to mock women's ridiculous standards, they totally
- 1:39:20Speaker 2: take men's like that list absolutely dead serious, and they say,
- 1:39:25Speaker 2: oh my god, look at what men expect from us.
- 1:39:27Speaker 2: How dare you? What?
- 1:39:30Speaker 3: What always struck me when I was dating online right
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: was that the women's profiles were a list of demands,
- 1:39:38Speaker 3: and the men's profiles were a list of what they
- 1:39:40Speaker 3: had to offer.
- 1:39:42Speaker 2: Mm hm oh yeah, for sure. That's that's dating apps
- 1:39:45Speaker 2: for sure.
- 1:39:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: Okay, so, uh not, Farber, your thing is still pending.
- 1:39:54Speaker 1: I'm guessing that it got stuck in the shoot. So
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: if you want to try again, I will you do.
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: Thank you anyway, fifty dollars, not Farber. Hopefully it gets through.
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: Might not. It's been three minutes.
- 1:40:07Speaker 3: So I well, I have to flush flush that airplane toilet, Farber,
- 1:40:12Speaker 3: flush it over the water. No one's gonna get hurt.
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: No one's gonna get hurt by a brick of shit,
- 1:40:19Speaker 1: all right. Anyway, Okay, so I think that we're in
- 1:40:22Speaker 1: the weeds very much. We're definitely or the swamp or
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: the crater or the sinkle. Let's just let's just kill it,
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: just kill it again. Kill the show.
- 1:40:35Speaker 3: Kill the show. I've already killed you.
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: And yeah, the only way to end the show is
- 1:40:40Speaker 1: if we kill Karen.
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: I'm still here.
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So anyway, if you want to support
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: the show, feedabadger dot com slash support. We have well
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: if not Farber's item goes through, we will have I
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: think of fifty fifty no, no, yeah, three and fifty
- 1:41:03Speaker 1: five left. So feed the Badger dot com slash just
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: this just the tip or no, feed the Badger dot
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: com slash support. If you want to send us a
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: message with a tip, then feed the Badger dot com
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: slash just the tip. All right, back to you, Brian.
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's kill it.
- 1:41:19Speaker 8: Put it out.
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