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The Kenny Report | 23 March · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me.
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Speaker 1: The fallout from one nation's performance in South Australia. Could
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Speaker 1: Victoria be next? I'll speak with former Liberal Premier of
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Speaker 1: Victoria Jeff Kennett and Federal Front bencher Dan Ten the
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Speaker 1: Prime minister's visit to the Lukember Mosque on Friday and
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Speaker 1: his shameful treatment. What does that tell us about the
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Speaker 1: fight for social cohesion in this country? The energy crisis.
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Speaker 1: As fuel prices continue to skyrocket, will electricity prices come down?
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Speaker 3: Don't get your hopes up.
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Speaker 1: Should countries like the UK and Australia be doing more
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Speaker 1: in the war against Iran? I'll cross to Sophie Oorsworth
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Speaker 1: in London. All that plus the ABC about to go
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Speaker 1: on strike, God love them. This country has plenty of problems,
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Speaker 1: but the main problem, the most serious one in the
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Speaker 1: long term, is the rise of Islamist extremism, the anti
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Speaker 1: Semitism and Islamist terrorism it's delivered and the way that
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Speaker 1: undermines our social cohesion. Nothing matters more than making sure
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Speaker 1: that we're free to go about our lives without hatred
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Speaker 1: and violence. Prosperity and security matter big time, of course,
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Speaker 1: but only to support and protect the free and safe community.
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Speaker 1: If we don't uphold the fundamentals of our society, then
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Speaker 1: nothing else matters. So something happened on Friday that was
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Speaker 1: far more important than the South Australian election or the
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Speaker 1: fuel crisis. It was more important than the fuel crisis
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Speaker 1: because it's linked, even though it was linked to the
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Speaker 1: very reason for that war in the Middle East, because
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Speaker 1: on Friday we saw that the weakness of our Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: his complete unwillingness to stand up for our Jewish community,
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Speaker 1: is unwillingness to tackle Islamist extremism. It's proven to be
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Speaker 1: nothing but provocative to some members of the Muslim community.
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Speaker 1: Anthony Abernesi is so coy about the threat of Islamus
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Speaker 1: extremism that he never even utters those words. Albanzi abandoned
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Speaker 1: the Jewish community for more than two years. He ignored
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Speaker 1: the anti Semitic hatred and the threats right up until
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Speaker 1: the all too predictable result at Bondai Beach. This PM
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Speaker 1: failed to challenge the rants of the hate preachers. In fact,
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Speaker 1: he tried to placate them by recognizing the non existent
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Speaker 1: state of Palestine and demonizing Israel, And after all this
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Speaker 1: weakness and appeasement, Alberzi turned up at the Lakember Moscow
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Speaker 1: on Friday to celebrate the end of Ramadan. Watch the
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Speaker 1: clip I'm about to show you, and look at the
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Speaker 1: protection around him and tell me if he looks like
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Speaker 1: he's happily joining a community celebration.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Plane clothed protection officers and uniform police, glumfaces and Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister looking tense rather than welcomed. Yet Alberzi has never
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Speaker 1: done or said anything to challenge this community. His foreign
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Speaker 1: policy has tried to please them, So why would they
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Speaker 1: be angry at him? Is it the fact he hasn't
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Speaker 1: yet denied as Israel's right to exist. Now, to be fair,
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Speaker 1: I need to note that back in December, when Albernizi
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Speaker 1: attended a memorial for the fifteen people gunned down at Bondim,
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Speaker 1: he was booed and there was plenty of security. As
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Speaker 1: you can see, the security was mainly keeping media back
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Speaker 1: and the booing from the crowd was hardly a surprise
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Speaker 1: given they had begged for more action for over two
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Speaker 1: years and then seen fifteen people in their community slaughtered.
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Speaker 1: Yet at Lakember, at a religious celebration where there's no
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Speaker 1: obvious gripe to be had. Where Albereze came as a friend,
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Speaker 1: his reception was pretty disturbing and it clearly rattled him.
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Speaker 1: Respect the place you're in.
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Speaker 4: Please, this is a this is a mosqn easy, What.
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Speaker 3: Are you doing here?
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Speaker 1: How dare you come here?
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Speaker 5: How dare you come here?
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Speaker 4: Communication with them about the issues affecting our communityble.
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Speaker 1: You call me horable, hespon won't be the people. Look,
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Speaker 1: this is horrible stuff and it's not excusable. Anthony Albereze
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Speaker 1: should never have been subjected to this. But to be honest,
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Speaker 1: it's partly his doing. He's done nothing but encourage and
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Speaker 1: support ugly anti Israel and pro Palestinian protests over recent years.
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Speaker 1: He even called the Sydney Harbor Bridge protests where there
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Speaker 1: were chants for death to the IDF. We saw terror
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Speaker 1: symbols paraded at that protest along with a poster of
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Leader of Iran, and where there were hate
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Speaker 1: preachers in the crowd. Well LPM called that protest peaceful.
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Speaker 1: This is a prime minister who did nothing after a
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Speaker 1: Lakember crowd openly celebrated the October the seventh atrocities against Israel,
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Speaker 1: and Albertezi did nothing after a Muslim mob chanted hatred
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Speaker 1: towards Jews at the Opera House. And again it's likely
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Speaker 1: some of the people at those protests and those events
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Speaker 1: were there with the PM at Lakember just three days ago.
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Speaker 1: And yet for all that weakness, the Prime Minister departed
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Speaker 1: from his Lakember Mosque visit like a fugitive.
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Speaker 6: I'm welcome after.
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Speaker 1: This is a disgusting state of affairs. Just think about it,
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Speaker 1: our Prime minister visiting a place of worship in this
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Speaker 1: country for a happy religious and cultural celebration and we
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Speaker 1: have threats and security like this. This is not the
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Speaker 1: Australia we should be. This is not the Australia we
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Speaker 1: should ever accept. But even afterwards, listen to the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister downplay it.
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Speaker 7: There were thirty thousand people plus at Lakember this morning. Overwhelmingly,
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Speaker 7: the reception was incredibly positive.
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Speaker 1: I walked through the.
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Speaker 7: Crowd to the mosque and not a single person heckle.
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Speaker 7: There were a couple of inside.
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Speaker 8: They were dealt with.
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Speaker 7: Contrary to what's been suggested, no one was rushed out.
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Speaker 8: We just sat there.
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Speaker 2: It was dealt with.
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Speaker 1: This is denial and delusion. Nothing to see here, he says.
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Speaker 1: Now nobody is suggesting all Muslims are a problem, and
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Speaker 1: no one is suggesting that everyone at La Camber on
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Speaker 1: Friday was a problem either, But clearly there were hot
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Speaker 1: heads in the mosque Friday. Is this incident after we
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Speaker 1: know that we know that Islamist extremism exists. It lurks
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Speaker 1: within parts of our Muslim communities. That's just a fact,
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Speaker 1: and it's a menace and it's a threat. It's a
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Speaker 1: threat to Muslim communities, it's a threat obviously to the
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Speaker 1: Jewish community, and it's a threat to all of us.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if this is one percent of the
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Speaker 1: community or half a percent of the community, because this
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Speaker 1: community numbers a million across the country. As we've seen
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Speaker 1: in Sydney's Martin Place and at Paramatta and in Melbourne
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Speaker 1: and at Bondi, it doesn't take many extremists to rereak
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Speaker 1: havoc and instill fear and destroy social cohesion. The Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister's visit to Lukember demonstrated very clearly that on this
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Speaker 1: issue he's failed badly. Yet he can't even admit it.
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Speaker 1: He tries to pretend the problem away and the more
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Speaker 1: he averts his eyes to this problem. The more he
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Speaker 1: indulges in jihad denihilism, the more this country will be
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Speaker 1: endangered and will all suffer. When you see that sort
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Speaker 1: of weakness from the Prime Minister and no one calling
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Speaker 1: it out strongly from the other side of politics, is
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Speaker 1: it any wonder that one Nation is doing so well?
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Speaker 1: Pauline Hansen says people trust her, and they do. Even
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Speaker 1: those that hate her know what she stands for. As
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Speaker 1: we predicted last week, One Nation received the second highest
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Speaker 1: share of primary votes at the South Australian.
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Speaker 3: Election votes than the Liberals.
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Speaker 1: Labor has been returned with a new record majority, the
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Speaker 1: Liberals cut to a record low, and One Nation will
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Speaker 1: get at least two and possibly three Upper House members
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Speaker 1: and that group will be led by Cory Bernardi. And
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Speaker 1: in the Lower House one Nation will have at least
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Speaker 1: two and up to four seats, maybe just one seat
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Speaker 1: behind the Liberals. Either way, it's been a huge triumph
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Speaker 1: for One Nation, finger in the air to the political
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Speaker 1: establishment and a punch in the face to the Liberals.
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Speaker 1: But the Liberals, well some of them seem deluded.
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Speaker 9: The pundits they said that we wouldn't get a single seat.
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Speaker 9: But tonight we will prove them wrong. We have done
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Speaker 9: a fantastic job across South Australia. There are thousands of
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Speaker 9: Liberal supporters who have backed us in against the odds,
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Speaker 9: but as counting continues, our position continues to improve as well.
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Speaker 1: Look, we know Hern wanted to put on a brave face,
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Speaker 1: but the reason the Liberals surrendered so much ground to
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Speaker 1: One Nation is the same reason they've trailed in the
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Speaker 1: polls nationally. The Liberals have surrendered their turf. They've become
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Speaker 1: labor light. No different on net zero, no different on migration,
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Speaker 1: not really different on all the woke stuff, and certainly
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Speaker 1: no different when it comes to the big government and
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Speaker 1: high taxing model of labor.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Angus Taylor has started to try to turn that around federally,
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Speaker 1: but it was too late for South Australia, where the
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Speaker 1: local Liberals remained as wet and woke as anyone. Malanowskis
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Speaker 1: spoke well on Saturday Night, but his focus on patriotism
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Speaker 1: seemed to suggest that it was xenophobia that drove the
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Speaker 1: one nation vote.
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Speaker 10: It's been a hot summer in Australia, so maybe we
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Speaker 10: should all look forward to the temperature coming down just
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Speaker 10: a little bit, so that when we sing the national
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Speaker 10: anthem with pride, we don't forget. There is a second verse.
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Speaker 1: Which reminds us.
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Speaker 10: It reminds us that when we all combine, we can
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Speaker 10: achieve anything.
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Speaker 6: When we work together.
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Speaker 10: When we work together, diversity has always been our greatest strength.
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Speaker 1: Well, yes, that's lovely to say, and it's true up
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Speaker 1: to a point. But the hard part is setting the
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Speaker 1: right level of immigration, choosing who has the right to
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Speaker 1: enter this country, and then confronting serious problems like Islamist extremism.
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Speaker 1: That's the hard stuff. And sure one nation in my view,
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Speaker 1: can't really provide the solutions there, but they don't run
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Speaker 1: away from the challenge. So if this election was supposed
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Speaker 1: to show that one nation is no longer all about protest,
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Speaker 1: no longer about just sending a message, and that it's
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Speaker 1: actually a force that could govern, well, the person who
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Speaker 1: put that idea to the sword, strangely enough, was Hansoon herself.
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Speaker 5: But I will say to Plascus, I'm still in South
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Speaker 5: Australia now. I am leaving tomorrow to go to Canberra
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Speaker 5: to continue my duties. But guess what, mate, I'm leaving.
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Speaker 5: Use some landmines. They're called one nation. Mambe's a parliament,
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Speaker 5: so I suggest don't step on them because they will explode.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, land mines.
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Speaker 1: That's what she called the one nation politicians. That doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound like a party of government, does it. That sounds
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Speaker 1: like a protest party. The key issues driving One Nation's
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Speaker 1: vote have clearly been immigration where one nation wants large cuts,
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Speaker 1: and energy where one nation has been hard against.
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Speaker 3: Net zero all along.
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Speaker 1: So in my view, the best outcome from the one
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Speaker 1: nation vote is that it might put some steel into
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Speaker 1: the spine of the liberals to reclaim their turf on
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Speaker 1: these areas and on economic management, small government and cost
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Speaker 1: of living. But there's another reason One Nation's support has surged,
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Speaker 1: and it's more fundamental than any policy differences. When was
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Speaker 1: the last time you saw a major party politician say
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Speaker 1: what they think? When was the last time you thought
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Speaker 1: they were talking from their heart or straight from their
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Speaker 1: head about a problem or how to fix it or
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Speaker 1: how to improve the nation.
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Speaker 3: They don't do it, do they?
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Speaker 1: They give us lines, They run political lines. Paul En
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Speaker 1: Hansen doesn't do that. She says what she thinks. She's authentic.
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Speaker 1: Now you might not like it. You might love it.
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Speaker 1: As you know, sometimes I agree with her and plenty
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Speaker 1: of times I disagree with her, but that's not the point.
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Speaker 1: The point is that she says what she means, and
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Speaker 1: she means what she says. That'd be a good starting
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Speaker 1: point for any politician wondering how to improve their standing.
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Speaker 1: Major parties attacking one Nation are likely to be counterproductive
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Speaker 1: any of those attacks because people vote for One Nation
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Speaker 1: because they've stopped listening to the major parties. Now, the
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Speaker 1: major parties, especially the coalition parties, they need to reclaim
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Speaker 1: mainstream values, reclaim sensible right of center policies. That's something
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Speaker 1: that Peter Malanowska has seemed to have worked out.
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Speaker 11: I think there are implications for my party as much
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Speaker 11: as there are for the liber Party.
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Speaker 6: You know, we're going to treat this seriously.
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Speaker 11: I don't think One Nation, or any political party for
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Speaker 11: that matter, should be written.
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Speaker 3: Off, spot on. Write them off at your peril.
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Speaker 1: Sure they've flamed out before and they might again, But
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Speaker 1: rather than attack them, the coalition needs to learn from them.
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Speaker 1: One Nation is mainly stealing coalition voters. The Coalition needs
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Speaker 1: to win them back by reclaiming their ground on the
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Speaker 1: war against Iran. Donald Trump has issued a forty eight
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Speaker 1: hour warning over the Strait of Humors that expires tomorrow morning,
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Speaker 1: our time and could be a crucial turning point. But
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Speaker 1: if anyone doubts the rationale for this war, if anyone
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Speaker 1: doubts the terror that Iran has wrought in the past
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Speaker 1: or the threat it posed for the future, surely they've
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Speaker 1: changed their minds after seeing what Iran has done in
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Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks, attacking its neighbors, attacking civilian targets,
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Speaker 1: and continuing to execute its own dissonance.
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Speaker 3: So I wanted to.
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Speaker 1: Show you a clip of what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
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Speaker 1: Netanyahu has said while inspecting damage in Jerusalem.
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Speaker 8: If you want proof that Iran endangers the entire world,
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Speaker 8: the last forty hours have given it. In the last
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Speaker 8: forty eight hours, Iran targeted a civilian area. They're doing
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Speaker 8: that as a mass murder weapon. Luckily no one was killed,
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Speaker 8: but that's due to luck, not their intention. Their intention
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Speaker 8: is to murder civilians. Second, they are using They fired
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Speaker 8: on Jerusalem right next to the holy sites of the
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Speaker 8: three Monotheistic face, the Western Wall, the Church of the
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Speaker 8: Holy Sepulcher, and the Alaxa Mosque, and by dint of
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Speaker 8: a miracle, again, none of them were hurt, but they
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Speaker 8: were targeting the holy sites of the three major monotheistic religions. Third,
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Speaker 8: they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile on Diego Garcia. That's
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Speaker 8: four thousand kilometers. I've been warning all the time. They
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Speaker 8: have now the capacity to reach deep into Europe. They
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Speaker 8: already have fired on European country Cyprus. They are putting
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Speaker 8: everyone in their sites. And Fourth, they're stopping a maritime
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Speaker 8: international route, energy route and trying to blackmail the entire world.
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Speaker 8: What more proof do you need that this regime that
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Speaker 8: threatens the entire world has to be stopped. Israel and
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Speaker 8: the United States are working together for the entire world,
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Speaker 8: and it's time to see the leaders of the rest
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Speaker 8: of the countries join up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah he's right, isn't he.
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Speaker 1: This is a war against the rogue nation, a war
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Speaker 1: for security in the Middle East, and a war for
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Speaker 1: civilization against Islamist extremest terror. And the US President Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump has noted the lack of support from Australia.
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Speaker 11: Mister President, you took issue with Australia, Japan, and South Korea.
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Speaker 10: This way very surprised about Australia.
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Speaker 1: And what what would you like them to do? They
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Speaker 1: see to get involved, and I don't a bit surprised
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Speaker 1: that they said now, because we always say yes to that.
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Speaker 1: What did Australia say no too?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 1: People ask what did the US ask for from Australia.
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Speaker 1: Albanize says nothing. But then Australia did refuse a request
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Speaker 1: to send a warship to protect shipping in the region
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Speaker 1: two and a half years ago under President Biden, and
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Speaker 1: in recent days, Albanesi took an extra three days before
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Speaker 1: signing a communicat offering support to keep the Strada filmors open.
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Speaker 1: Australia has sent a wedge tailed surveillance aircraft and crew
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Speaker 1: to help protect the UAE. But let's be clear, even
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Speaker 1: though there's so much at stake for Australia and the
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Speaker 1: free world, and even though Iran has conducted terror attacks
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Speaker 1: in Australia in the past couple of years, Alberzi's attitude
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Speaker 1: is that it's not really our fight.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: That might be popular, I'm not sure, but what I
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Speaker 1: do know is that you can always rely on Albanzi
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Speaker 1: to take the weakest option available. Let's go to Caramber
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Speaker 1: and catch up with Shadow Energy Minister Dan Tea and
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Speaker 1: Dan just a question without notice. I'm really disturbed by
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Speaker 1: what happened with the Prime Minister at the lakember Mosque
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Speaker 1: on Friday.
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Speaker 3: What's your takeout on that.
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Speaker 1: And the message it sends about social cohesion in this country.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think it sends a terrible message about social
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Speaker 11: cohesion and it shows that the Prime Minister has presided
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Speaker 11: basically on the breakdown of social cohesion in this country.
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Speaker 6: And if he doesn't realize.
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Speaker 11: That after Friday, then I don't think he's ever going
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Speaker 11: to realize it. When you look at that, you look
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Speaker 11: at what happened with that Heenus terrorist attack which occurred
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Speaker 11: at Bondi Beach before Christmas. We are seeing the disintegration
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Speaker 11: of social cohesion in this nation and the PM seriously
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Speaker 11: needs to act before our nation changes before our very eyes.
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Speaker 1: You must have been concerned by the dismal failure of
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Speaker 1: the South Australian Liberal Party and the state election on
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Speaker 1: the weekend, a surge in vote for one Nation getting
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Speaker 1: more primary votes than the Liberals, and Paul nance In
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Speaker 1: saying Victoria is next with an election due in your
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Speaker 1: home state in November. Do you think that the coalition
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Speaker 1: parties in Victoria are open to the same sort of
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Speaker 1: challenge from one nation.
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Speaker 11: Well, I mean the thing that I'm concentrating on crease
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Speaker 11: is Farah because Fara's next, and we have to put
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Speaker 11: a compelling case to the voters in Parah as to
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Speaker 11: why the Liberal Party can continue to best represent that
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Speaker 11: federal electorate.
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Speaker 6: And there's two ways that we need to be able
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Speaker 6: to do that.
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Speaker 11: First of all, we've got to have very clear cut
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Speaker 11: policies that we can take to the people of Para
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Speaker 11: saying this is how we'll look.
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Speaker 6: After your interests.
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Speaker 11: And we've also got to be able to point out that, ultimately,
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Speaker 11: if you're going to defeat the Albanesi labor government, and
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Speaker 11: I think most people in Parah want to see an
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Speaker 11: end to this album easy labor government, that the best
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Speaker 11: way to do that is by electing coalition representatives, because
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Speaker 11: if we don't, then all you're going to get is
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Speaker 11: a divided parliament on the right and you're going to
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Speaker 11: see more and more labor governments, whether it be in
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Speaker 11: state parliaments or continuing in this federal parliament, which I
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Speaker 11: don't think is in Australia's long term interest.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got the state election after that. Of course
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Speaker 1: you've got to focus on Pharah. That's the federal by
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Speaker 1: election in May. I think that's going to be very tough.
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Speaker 1: In by election circumstances, you'd think one nation and an independent.
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Speaker 3: There would do very well.
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Speaker 1: But let's go to the key issue in your portfolio
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Speaker 1: area and that is the energy crisis at the moment,
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Speaker 1: and Chris Bowen finally seems to admit that this is
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Speaker 1: a lumining crisis for the country. Here he is in
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Speaker 1: Parliament today explaining the situation.
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Speaker 12: In New South Wales at the moment, it's thirty seven
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Speaker 12: out of a total of twenty four hundred and forty
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Speaker 12: four servicestations. In Queensland, it's forty seven outlets with no diesel,
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Speaker 12: thirty two with no regular unleaded out of just one
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Speaker 12: eight hundred service stations. In Victoria, at the end of
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Speaker 12: last week we saw one hundred and nine outlets with
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Speaker 12: one or more grades unavailable.
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Speaker 1: See that sounds like a bit of a problem. He
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Speaker 1: told us there was no supply problem. Yet we've got
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Speaker 1: petrol stations running out of juice.
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Speaker 11: We have been asking him and We actually wrote him
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Speaker 11: a letter on the tenth of March saying where are
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Speaker 11: the fuel shortages and what are you doing to address them?
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Speaker 11: This is the first time today that he's actually been
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Speaker 11: able to admit that there is a problem and be
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Speaker 11: able to say to the Australian people this is where
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Speaker 11: there are some of the problems. Now, you've got to
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Speaker 11: remember he left South Australia off, he left the Northern
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Speaker 11: Territory off, he left Tasmanian off, and so he doesn't
22:47
Speaker 11: still have the information that he should have at his
22:50
Speaker 11: fingertips to be able to fix this issue.
22:54
Speaker 6: Because if you don't know where the.
22:55
Speaker 11: Supply issues are, how can you make sure you get
22:58
Speaker 11: fuel there? And I can tell Chris everything we're hearing
23:02
Speaker 11: is things sadly are going to get worse once we
23:05
Speaker 11: hit mid April. The shortages are really going to start
23:10
Speaker 11: to take hold. And once again in the Parliament he
23:13
Speaker 11: wasn't upfront with the Australian people because we asked him, okay,
23:17
Speaker 11: there were six shipments that we know were canceled when
23:21
Speaker 11: we were first made aware of those would not answer.
23:24
Speaker 11: So not being transparent about when he was first hole
23:27
Speaker 11: and then he won't be transparent about what looks like
23:32
Speaker 11: for the future. So people should be deeply, deeply concerned
23:36
Speaker 11: with Chris Bowen's management of this issue.
23:38
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I think that the Prime.
23:41
Speaker 11: Minister needs to step in, needs to act, needs to
23:44
Speaker 11: say to him, get rid of your climate change negotiation
23:48
Speaker 11: role because you need to be fully focused on this issue.
23:52
Speaker 11: Remembering he's trying to do both. And last week when
23:56
Speaker 11: we were asking for information about shortages, what did he do?
23:59
Speaker 11: He flew to Breeze Spin to chair a climate change meeting. Meanwhile,
24:03
Speaker 11: people are looking at a doubling of the diesel price,
24:06
Speaker 11: a doubling.
24:07
Speaker 6: Of the petrol price. Where the look it.
24:10
Speaker 11: Comes to fertilizer farmers are getting whacked twice the price
24:15
Speaker 11: that they thought they were going to pay only three
24:17
Speaker 11: weeks ago. That's going to flow into what you pay
24:20
Speaker 11: at the supermarket. It's a catastrophe everywhere, and this bloke
24:25
Speaker 11: is focused.
24:26
Speaker 6: On the UN I mean, it is beyond a joke.
24:30
Speaker 1: Sure is. Thanks for joining us, Dan Dwan team. They're
24:32
Speaker 1: live from Canberra. Now I'm going to catch up with
24:35
Speaker 1: former Victorian Premier Jef Kennet in just a moment, But first.
24:38
Speaker 3: I want to show you again.
24:40
Speaker 1: After the successful campaign in South Australia. What One Nation
24:43
Speaker 1: leader Pauline Hansen has had to say by way of
24:46
Speaker 1: a warning for Victoria.
24:49
Speaker 5: I think the rest of Australia is going to be
24:51
Speaker 5: watching what's happening here tonight, and I think it's a
24:54
Speaker 5: very important to see for Farah, and I also will
24:58
Speaker 5: set a strong team for Victorious. If you're from Victoria,
25:02
Speaker 5: you're watching this, We're coming to support you down their
25:06
Speaker 5: sand candidates.
25:08
Speaker 1: So I asked Jeff Kennett whether the coalition parties should
25:11
Speaker 1: be worried about a one nation threat for this November.
25:16
Speaker 2: I don't think they should be overly worried.
25:19
Speaker 13: Everyone's entitled to stand whether they're independence or parties. But
25:24
Speaker 13: the situation is very different from Victoria than that we
25:28
Speaker 13: encountered in South Australia. So South Australia was a government,
25:32
Speaker 13: well led, stable, very very focused on things South Australian,
25:39
Speaker 13: and they sprinkle what I would call gold dust over
25:41
Speaker 13: the community with major events winning both what do I
25:47
Speaker 13: call the gather Round of the AFL and more recently
25:51
Speaker 13: the GP Motor GP. So Peter very much followed the
25:56
Speaker 13: Victorian model during his first term here in Victoria, we
26:01
Speaker 13: have a government that is up to its eyeballs in corruption,
26:05
Speaker 13: which the public understand much better than ever before, and
26:09
Speaker 13: the government will be defeated. Now the only question is
26:13
Speaker 13: who will form the government. Will it in fact be
26:16
Speaker 13: the coalition that is Libs in the National Party, Will
26:20
Speaker 13: one nation have an influence and perhaps win seats as
26:23
Speaker 13: they did in South Australia. Will there be independents who
26:27
Speaker 13: stand so I have a feeling at this stage with
26:29
Speaker 13: eight months ago, that there will be a coalition of interests,
26:34
Speaker 13: parties and individuals who will say no to corruption here
26:38
Speaker 13: in Victoria and the government will fall. What is not
26:42
Speaker 13: clear is who's going to make up the new government.
26:45
Speaker 1: That's fascinating because obviously one nation could play a big
26:48
Speaker 1: role in that. You make a very clear point, and
26:50
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. South Australia has a right faction competent
26:55
Speaker 1: popular labor government, whereas in Victoria, who've had a sort
26:58
Speaker 1: of a socialist left failure of a government. So that
27:02
Speaker 1: makes a big difference. But one nation has taken the
27:04
Speaker 1: majority of its votes in South Australia, as it has
27:07
Speaker 1: done in its history, from the conservative parties, from the
27:11
Speaker 1: right of center parties, so there's clearly dissatisfaction in South
27:14
Speaker 1: Australia what the liberal parties had to offer. You must
27:18
Speaker 1: be concerned that there's a lack of definition, a lack
27:21
Speaker 1: of product differentiation, lack of clarity perhaps from the Liberals
27:27
Speaker 1: and Nationals in Victoria, and they could be susceptible therefore
27:30
Speaker 1: to one nation as well.
27:33
Speaker 13: Chris highlight competition and as I said earlier, everyone's entitled
27:37
Speaker 13: to stand that.
27:38
Speaker 2: I've been saying for.
27:39
Speaker 13: A long time now that the parties other than Labor
27:44
Speaker 13: and the Greens, who are handmaidens and do everything together,
27:48
Speaker 13: must work together to say no to corruption in Victoria.
27:52
Speaker 13: We cannot have another government that not only supports and
27:57
Speaker 13: sponsors corruption but cost every Victorian a great deal. And
28:01
Speaker 13: therefore I'm not necessarily saying there has to be agreements
28:06
Speaker 13: between the parties and that includes one nation. But I
28:09
Speaker 13: hope all of those other parties will say no to
28:13
Speaker 13: corruption and therefore will support each other.
28:16
Speaker 2: Again. I don't know what the outcome of that will be.
28:18
Speaker 13: At this stage, but Victoria is crippled, economically crippled, and
28:24
Speaker 13: the services that the government should be providing are going
28:27
Speaker 13: down the tube so quickly.
28:28
Speaker 2: So I am confident will be a change of government.
28:32
Speaker 13: I don't know what the coalition of the new government
28:35
Speaker 13: will be, but it must be pro Victoria, very strongly
28:39
Speaker 13: pro Victoria and anti corruption.
28:41
Speaker 2: So I'm not overly worried.
28:43
Speaker 13: And I have no doubt that Paul Enhanson will, like me,
28:47
Speaker 13: say no to corruption.
28:49
Speaker 1: Well, if you take that to its logical conclusion, then
28:53
Speaker 1: perhaps if One Nation does reasonably well in the Victorian
28:56
Speaker 1: state election, they can get some members, perhaps in the
28:59
Speaker 1: Lower House, perhaps in the Upper House. There are a
29:01
Speaker 1: stronger regional representation in Victoria, so they could do very well,
29:06
Speaker 1: and you would like them to work together, obviously with
29:08
Speaker 1: Liberals and Nationals to form a government to get rid
29:12
Speaker 1: of the government. But isn't there a great risk that
29:15
Speaker 1: if they pull back the Liberal and National primary vote
29:18
Speaker 1: they could jeopardize the change of government.
29:23
Speaker 2: Well, they may, that's yet to be seen.
29:26
Speaker 13: What I really want, Chris, is good men and women
29:31
Speaker 13: with experiences, I don't care whether they're National, Liberal, One
29:35
Speaker 13: Nation Independence, who after the election can work together to
29:40
Speaker 13: put the interests of Victoria first. Because those that new
29:43
Speaker 13: government is going to face the greatest political challenge of
29:47
Speaker 13: any government Illustralia since the Second World War. So I
29:52
Speaker 13: understand what you're saying. I am less Liberal than I
29:57
Speaker 13: am Victorian.
29:58
Speaker 2: Right.
29:59
Speaker 13: I hope whoever can test the election will understand that
30:03
Speaker 13: our community want leadership, they want to be inspired, and
30:07
Speaker 13: they want to be rewarded.
30:09
Speaker 2: Now, I can't predict the future.
30:12
Speaker 13: I do know since Jess Wilson came to the leadership
30:14
Speaker 13: of the Liberal Party there has been a period of
30:18
Speaker 13: peace and calm.
30:19
Speaker 2: And I hope that continues.
30:20
Speaker 13: The National Party are solid, so that's not an issue.
30:24
Speaker 13: What is going to be interesting and I suspect what
30:27
Speaker 13: happen in the western districts of Victoria, and by that
30:30
Speaker 13: I mean in the city metropolitan Western. There are going
30:34
Speaker 13: to be a number of independent stand and they are
30:37
Speaker 13: of good caliber and I think they'll win some seats
30:41
Speaker 13: there from Labor. So again I think Labor's dead in
30:45
Speaker 13: the water. The question is.
30:48
Speaker 2: Who are going to make up the next government.
30:52
Speaker 1: Jeff Kenneth, thanks so much for insights. Fascinating stuff. After that,
30:56
Speaker 1: Pharah federal by election, and all eyes certainly will turn
30:59
Speaker 1: to the Toorian state election.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Chris.
31:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyone but Labor, says Jeff Kennett, even if it
31:09
Speaker 1: is some one nation members as well, got to get
31:12
Speaker 1: to a break. On the other side, we'll get back
31:13
Speaker 1: into the energy crisis. Those fuel prices going sky high,
31:17
Speaker 1: of course, but we'll electricity prices.
31:20
Speaker 3: Come down soon. I don't think so.
31:27
Speaker 1: On the fuel crisis, The International Energy Agencies Executive director
31:31
Speaker 1: has addressed the Press Club in Canberra today, warning that
31:34
Speaker 1: the current shock is going to be worse than what
31:36
Speaker 1: we saw in the nineteen seventies.
31:38
Speaker 3: Have a listen only.
31:40
Speaker 1: As of today, we lost eleven million births per day,
31:44
Speaker 1: so more than two major oil shocks put together. Yeah,
31:50
Speaker 1: it's a big problem for the world and for Australia.
31:52
Speaker 1: Let's go to energy expert Matt Rennie, who's the executive
31:54
Speaker 1: director of Rennie. Thanks for joining us again, Matt. How
31:58
Speaker 1: about is this situation to get We're already seeing petrol
32:01
Speaker 1: stations running out of fuelers. Seems we must have been
32:04
Speaker 1: running pretty close to sort of just in time arrival
32:07
Speaker 1: for all our fuel needs.
32:11
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's certainly a pretty tumultuous period and viewers could
32:15
Speaker 14: be you know, we could forgive them for wondering what
32:20
Speaker 14: the Iran situation has to do with power prices in Australia.
32:24
Speaker 14: And that's really a function of the fact that forty
32:27
Speaker 14: percent of the power price is set by wholesale generators,
32:30
Speaker 14: and that in turn, in winter in particular, is set
32:33
Speaker 14: by gas generators, which in turn pay a domestic gas price.
32:37
Speaker 14: That gas price is pegged to Asian LNG gas prices,
32:41
Speaker 14: which have doubled in the last month. And so it's
32:44
Speaker 14: going to be a period where we really are reliant
32:48
Speaker 14: on how government responds to be able to determine what's
32:51
Speaker 14: going to happen with power prices over the next six
32:53
Speaker 14: to twelve months.
32:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't import gas. We export gas, so presumably
32:57
Speaker 1: this is a boon for the gas exporters and perhaps
33:00
Speaker 1: for the government to whatever taxation it gets from those
33:03
Speaker 1: gas exports. But why is it then that we pay more. Surely,
33:07
Speaker 1: as a country with so much gas, you think we'll
33:09
Speaker 1: be able to supply ourselves at our own domestic price.
33:14
Speaker 14: Well, that's exactly right, and it's a point where we
33:16
Speaker 14: really have to muscle up as a country. With petrol,
33:20
Speaker 14: we're very obviously a price taker. You know, we import
33:24
Speaker 14: both both crude and also refined fuel, but very much
33:28
Speaker 14: we are reliant on what international markets are.
33:31
Speaker 2: But with L and G is a bit different.
33:33
Speaker 14: We export something like forty percent of the age in
33:36
Speaker 14: LNG demand and twenty percent globally. We're in fact the
33:39
Speaker 14: top three, so Katar, the US and Australia are the
33:42
Speaker 14: top three exporters of LNG and increasingly we're setting the
33:47
Speaker 14: marginal price of LNG because we often provide the marginal
33:52
Speaker 14: product into the Asian market. So you know, the markets
33:55
Speaker 14: did it really do react to what government says. And
33:58
Speaker 14: we've got three or four big leavers as all the
34:01
Speaker 14: federal government does. The first is the domestic gas mechanism,
34:05
Speaker 14: which allows them to take a little bit aside from
34:08
Speaker 14: what's being sent overseas for domestic and it doesn't take
34:11
Speaker 14: much to be able to give Australia enough gas. There's
34:14
Speaker 14: the domestic gas reservation draft policies that are being worked
34:18
Speaker 14: up in this petroleum resource rent tax. But energy security
34:22
Speaker 14: is national security and we need to look at it
34:24
Speaker 14: as a strategic national asset and really lean into this.
34:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, because you need gas for a
34:29
Speaker 1: lot more than only generating electricity. But even with the
34:33
Speaker 1: electricity grid, no matter how well we do, if renewables
34:37
Speaker 1: do very well, all of Chris Bowen's dreams come true.
34:41
Speaker 1: You're still going to need a lot of gas peaking,
34:43
Speaker 1: aren't you. It will still be a price setter in
34:45
Speaker 1: our electricity market.
34:48
Speaker 14: Well, that's right, and particularly over winter. What we find
34:51
Speaker 14: is that that six PM price is increasingly set by gas,
34:54
Speaker 14: and absolutely set by gas over the winter period. What's
34:58
Speaker 14: really protecting us at the moment is the contracting of
35:01
Speaker 14: domestic gas in Australia, But mainly it's the pressure that
35:05
Speaker 14: the government's state and federal will put on the oil
35:07
Speaker 14: and gas companies. We tend as a country to see
35:10
Speaker 14: ourselves as a bit of a pass through, a bit
35:12
Speaker 14: passive on LNG. It comes out of the ground, it
35:15
Speaker 14: passes through us and it goes to customers. But it's
35:18
Speaker 14: very much our gas and what we pay for power
35:20
Speaker 14: is going to be very much in our control in
35:21
Speaker 14: the next six to twelve months.
35:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. I just want to get your thoughts
35:24
Speaker 1: on electricity prices then, because we had the Climate and
35:28
Speaker 1: Energy Minister Chris Bowen out last week trumpeting the market
35:32
Speaker 1: operators market offer them. Yeah, the default market offer, suggesting
35:42
Speaker 1: that electricity prices might be heading down by ten percent
35:46
Speaker 1: for consumers. That sounds like great news, do you believe it.
35:51
Speaker 2: Unfortunately not.
35:52
Speaker 14: No, it's one of those situations where doing policy in
35:55
Speaker 14: the rear vision mirror doesn't really help you when you're
35:57
Speaker 14: driving into a storm. All of the different parts of
36:01
Speaker 14: the retail bill, whether it's wholesale, transmission, distribution and retail rising.
36:06
Speaker 14: You know, the Q two forward prices that we can
36:08
Speaker 14: see now are already higher than what was assumed in
36:11
Speaker 14: the DMO.
36:12
Speaker 2: But it's just.
36:12
Speaker 14: Worth saying that the DMO is it's the tariff that's
36:16
Speaker 14: paid by customers in shopping centers, in strip malls, in
36:21
Speaker 14: caravan parks, in industrial trade zones and airports, and those
36:25
Speaker 14: providers are required to sell at the DMO. So when
36:28
Speaker 14: we know that the cost of power is rising and
36:31
Speaker 14: we force the price of power to come down, it
36:33
Speaker 14: doesn't hurt the big retail as it hurts the little ones.
36:36
Speaker 14: And I think we need to really give this some
36:38
Speaker 14: thought before we enshrine this into a final because what
36:40
Speaker 14: we might find is we don't have a mid tier
36:42
Speaker 14: retailer market anymore.
36:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a draft off, I wasn't it. We'll
36:45
Speaker 1: see what happens there. Thanks for joining us, Matt, I
36:47
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Matt, Rennie, there who's all over our messy
36:51
Speaker 1: electricity and energy market. We've got to take a break.
36:54
Speaker 1: On the other side of that, we're going going to
36:56
Speaker 1: the UK and there's some horrible breaking news there and
36:59
Speaker 1: an ass and it's on Jewish community ambulances in London.
37:04
Speaker 3: It's being treated as a hate crime.
37:11
Speaker 1: Let's go to London and catch up as we do
37:13
Speaker 1: every Monday with newscorps Purrope correspondent and Sky News contributor
37:16
Speaker 1: Sophie Osworth. Thanks for joining us again, Sophie, and you've
37:19
Speaker 1: got some breaking news in London this morning, your time,
37:23
Speaker 1: with a horrible attack over and I directed at the
37:26
Speaker 1: Jewish community.
37:29
Speaker 15: That's right, Chris, So, just this morning, in the early hours,
37:33
Speaker 15: it was reported that four ambulances belonging to the Jewish
37:36
Speaker 15: community were set alight. Is you can see in that
37:40
Speaker 15: pretty extraordinary footage online at the moment. And there's a
37:44
Speaker 15: manhunt on underway at the moment to find out who
37:48
Speaker 15: is responsible for this.
37:49
Speaker 1: Chris.
37:50
Speaker 15: Now, it's occurred at Golders Green, which is in North
37:52
Speaker 15: London and is a heavily populated Jewish community. So this
37:57
Speaker 15: has been deemed as a hate crime and police are investigating.
38:01
Speaker 15: So a shocking attack yet again on the Jewish community
38:05
Speaker 15: here in the UK.
38:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hatzel Ambulance Services, a Jewish ambulance services. People in
38:11
Speaker 1: the eastern suburbs of Sydney and in parts of Melbourne
38:14
Speaker 1: would be familiar with those ambulance services, one existing and
38:18
Speaker 1: run by the Jewish community in London attacked. Just just
38:22
Speaker 1: a terrible example, another terrible example of hate crimes and
38:26
Speaker 1: anti Semitism. Thanks for bringing us that breaking news, Sophie.
38:30
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the war in Iran, which of
38:33
Speaker 1: course is related to these issues America and Israel attacking
38:38
Speaker 1: the Islamist theocracy of Iran and a lot of calls
38:42
Speaker 1: for more action from the UK, especially intensifying after that
38:46
Speaker 1: missile attack on the British Security BA, said Diego Doug Garcia.
38:53
Speaker 1: So any suggestions that the British government is looking at
38:57
Speaker 1: becoming more proactive.
39:00
Speaker 15: Well, it seems Chris that they're holding pretty firm on
39:03
Speaker 15: this and saying that they will make sure that they're
39:07
Speaker 15: defensive in their attacks, but they're not looking at joining
39:11
Speaker 15: the US in any of their offensive attacks on Iran,
39:15
Speaker 15: and they've been really strong on this. It has got
39:18
Speaker 15: the support of the British public that they don't get
39:21
Speaker 15: too involved in this, Chris, But like everywhere around the world,
39:26
Speaker 15: Britain is really feeling the impacts of this war. The
39:31
Speaker 15: cost of prices here, including petrol, are exorbitant and people
39:35
Speaker 15: are feeling the pinch. So and who knows, Chris, how
39:39
Speaker 15: long this will go on for. But Sekia Farmer seems
39:42
Speaker 15: to be holding firm on this that he doesn't want
39:44
Speaker 15: to get too involved, and we know that that's going
39:47
Speaker 15: to cause problems between what is typically a pretty friendly
39:50
Speaker 15: relationship between Sekia Parma and US President Donald Trump.
39:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the Foreign Secretary of at Cooper.
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Speaker 16: We will provide defensive support against these reckless Iranian threats,
40:06
Speaker 16: but we have not been and we continue not to
40:08
Speaker 16: be involved in offensive action. And we want to see
40:11
Speaker 16: the swiftest possible resolution.
40:15
Speaker 1: Yes, swiftest possible resolution. We heard earlier from Benjamin Nitt
40:19
Speaker 1: and Yahoo. He wants other countries to get involved. He
40:22
Speaker 1: says this is essentially a fight for Western civilization, so
40:25
Speaker 1: the UK ought to have an interest on those grounds.
40:28
Speaker 1: But also, of course, as you say, because of the
40:31
Speaker 1: economic impacts of this, the sooner the war is won
40:33
Speaker 1: and over, the better for everyone here. Is sa Ki Stama.
40:38
Speaker 17: They're really worried about the conflict in Iran and the
40:41
Speaker 17: impact of that might have on them and their families.
40:45
Speaker 17: Many people on whose oil for their hating get hope
40:48
Speaker 17: and you will be aware of the impact therefore that
40:51
Speaker 17: this could have play already got to have on you.
40:54
Speaker 17: And we talked them about the government's absolute determination that
40:58
Speaker 17: they're not going to get ripped off.
41:01
Speaker 1: So a bit of empathy for the cost of living
41:03
Speaker 1: issues there from the Prime Minister Sophie and a lot
41:06
Speaker 1: of ongoing trouble with immigration and border control. He's under pressure.
41:11
Speaker 1: Is he doing much or just empathizing at the moment.
41:16
Speaker 15: Well, he has this issue Chris where he seems to
41:20
Speaker 15: sort of did that and he doesn't have a position
41:23
Speaker 15: or he is not sure. He seems to not back
41:25
Speaker 15: himself in when he makes his decisions, and the UK
41:29
Speaker 15: media have an awful lot of fun with sekias Starmer
41:31
Speaker 15: saying he's always doing U turns. He makes one decision
41:34
Speaker 15: and then suddenly he's doing the opposite. We know that
41:37
Speaker 15: the elections are coming up here in Scotland and Wales
41:41
Speaker 15: in the next couple of months, and local council elections
41:45
Speaker 15: there is no doubt that Sakias Starmer's premiership is under
41:49
Speaker 15: threat and Britain's are really feeling the pinch here Chris.
41:52
Speaker 15: As I mentioned, it's very very expensive to live here
41:56
Speaker 15: ordinarily and obviously with this impact in the Strait, up
41:59
Speaker 15: will move. It's only getting tougher for families here in Britain.
42:03
Speaker 1: Well you get too tough it out for a while,
42:05
Speaker 1: Sophie and nail it for us, then you can come
42:07
Speaker 1: home to wonderful troublers. I've got to warn you. Cost
42:10
Speaker 1: of living is pretty high here too. Thanks for joining us,
42:13
Speaker 1: Sophie ELL's with their live in London Nugo.
42:16
Speaker 3: Way after the break, we've got Gemma and Caroline.
42:18
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about, among other things, the ABC
42:21
Speaker 1: going on strike that might save us a quid. Let's
42:29
Speaker 1: catch up with Gematon Union Caroline Drulso. They both fled
42:32
Speaker 1: to the west. Join us from Perth tonight. Now, Carol,
42:35
Speaker 1: let's go to you first and your Liberal Party, where
42:38
Speaker 1: we talked last week about how the South Australian Liberals
42:40
Speaker 1: might go the way the Western Australian Liberals did an
42:43
Speaker 1: election back when they were down to two members. It's
42:46
Speaker 1: not going to be far off. They might get four
42:48
Speaker 1: or five seats in the Lower House. Is it a disaster, Well.
42:52
Speaker 4: It's still it's still significantly better than the position we
42:57
Speaker 4: found ourselves in in twenty twenty one. There was a
42:59
Speaker 4: greater position in the Chinese Congress than they was in
43:03
Speaker 4: the West Australian Parliament. So it's obviously not a great
43:07
Speaker 4: result in South Australia and I think we all know that.
43:10
Speaker 4: But given some of the reporting that there had been
43:13
Speaker 4: ahead of time, it could have been it could have
43:16
Speaker 4: been worse. So you know, sometimes your blessings are small,
43:19
Speaker 4: but you count them anyway.
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Speaker 6: And very interesting to watch.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Peter malanowskis you know what can we say?
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Speaker 4: He really is popular, he's delivered back, he has more
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Speaker 4: seats than he won last time, and obviously that one
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Speaker 4: nation vote it did hold up. But it's interesting how
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Speaker 4: much carnage it did cause and will continue to cause
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Speaker 4: in the vote count. Chris, I mean we talked about
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Speaker 4: this last Monday. You know, preferences are everywhere, and look,
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Speaker 4: I feel sorry for anyone trying to finger lick where
43:54
Speaker 4: those preferences are going to land, to determine where some
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Speaker 4: of those seats go.
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Speaker 6: It's going to be messy.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a long.
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Speaker 1: Count yeah, But the issue is Gemma. In the end,
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Speaker 1: the more the better One Nation does, the worse it
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Speaker 1: is for the coalition parties. There's no way around that.
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Speaker 1: And sure that they're not going to form government, but
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Speaker 1: they do enormous damage to the Liberals and the Liberals
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Speaker 1: need to learn the right lessons.
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Speaker 3: What do you think they are, Gemma.
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Speaker 18: Well, it's really interesting because I have the greatest of
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Speaker 18: respect for my learned friend here with me, and I'm
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Speaker 18: allowed to tease it because that's what friends do. But
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Speaker 18: the bottom line is we can talk in wax lyrical
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Speaker 18: about how much damage the one Nation does vote does
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Speaker 18: to the Liberal Party, but the Liberal Party has done
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Speaker 18: damage to the Liberal Party. They wouldn't be in this
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Speaker 18: position if the Liberal Party hadn't set fire to itself
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Speaker 18: in the town square for the last x amount of
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Speaker 18: years at a state level here in Western Australia, South
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Speaker 18: Australia and federally. So yes, you can acknowledge the impact
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Speaker 18: of that vote, but the cause of that vote is
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Speaker 18: still the Liberal parties to fix.
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Speaker 1: And we could talk.
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Speaker 18: About those issues separately and for some signal eficant time.
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Speaker 18: I think, I don't think. I believe strongly and I
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Speaker 18: know that this is either going to be a jole
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Speaker 18: top the proverbial that the coalition parties will take notice
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Speaker 18: of and stop, you know, talking with such undisciplined you know,
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Speaker 18: shilly showing and waffling about factions and quotas and all
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Speaker 18: the kind of bs that voters don't actually care about,
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Speaker 18: like how much pain are they willing to sit in
45:27
Speaker 18: before they'll actually get their act together? And again, Chris,
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Speaker 18: I say that as one of the three women still
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Speaker 18: voting for the coalition in this.
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Speaker 1: But I mean it's pretty clear. Is it strong and
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Speaker 1: orderly and controlled migration? YEA reliable and affordable energy instead
45:42
Speaker 1: of United Nations ambitions, and a bit of structure and
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Speaker 1: pride around our nation and including in our education system.
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Speaker 1: To me, these would be the themes Jimma, don't you
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Speaker 1: think where the liberals have vacated the field and so
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Speaker 1: one nation steps in?
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Speaker 18: One hundred percent, You're bang on the those are the
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Speaker 18: things that we need to have strong policy on, clear
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Speaker 18: policy on. And look, I will say this who I
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Speaker 18: don't know whether it was the Premier's idea or someone
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Speaker 18: in his team's idea. But for him to read that
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Speaker 18: poem stroke of genius, and for me it redeemed him
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Speaker 18: from the you know, the bum wiping migrants comment that
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Speaker 18: I found so utterly offensive as having cared for my
46:23
Speaker 18: late father with my mum and my brother. I think
46:25
Speaker 18: that was a stroke of genius because one of the
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Speaker 18: things also is love of country. And I am sent
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Speaker 18: to the back teeth of hearing people say this is
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Speaker 18: a racist country, This is a country with nothing to offer.
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Speaker 18: This is a compromise.
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Speaker 1: This is the best.
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Speaker 18: Country in the world, or it used to be and
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Speaker 18: it can be once again. And that is not nationalism,
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Speaker 18: it's not far right. It is appreciation for the blessing
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Speaker 18: of living in Australia. And if the Coalition can harness
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Speaker 18: that in a way that resonates with voters and is
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Speaker 18: true to our culture, then that's a great first step.
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Speaker 1: Well said Jimmy. Is it too late to get you
46:58
Speaker 1: to run in Farah for the party? Rather stick my
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Speaker 1: head and now just click, just quickly, Caroline, the ABC
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Speaker 1: is going on strike on Wednesday. Should we just let
47:11
Speaker 1: them go on strike as long as they like and
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Speaker 1: stop paying them, save ourselves a billion dollars a year.
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Speaker 1: Oh totally.
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Speaker 6: I'm all for this.
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Speaker 4: I think this is just the stupidest, stupidest first world
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Speaker 4: problem in the culture of entitlement issue that we have
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Speaker 4: seen this week. When you think about the cost of
47:32
Speaker 4: living issues, you think about rising interest rates, do you
47:35
Speaker 4: think about the cost of fuel? You think about those
47:37
Speaker 4: people who were worried whether the company in the private
47:41
Speaker 4: sector that they work for is going to make it
47:43
Speaker 4: through tough economic times, or whether they're going to go
47:46
Speaker 4: in so any of those sorts of things.
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Speaker 6: People are carrying this.
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Speaker 4: Around all the time, and here are our friends at
47:53
Speaker 4: the ABC worried that they're not getting a satin pillow allowed.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, you too, have fun there on
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Speaker 1: Cotttersload Beach. I'll catch you next week Carol and Jem
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Speaker 1: and ton Yini. Yeah. With the ABC out of action
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, who are the Teals and the Green's going
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Speaker 1: to talk to? That's the big issue now. Some of
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Speaker 1: your feedback from what I had to share with you
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Speaker 1: from South Australia last week on the election there and
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Speaker 1: One Nation of Pauline Hansen. One viewer says a big
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Speaker 1: win for labor, but One Nation will be quietly happy
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Speaker 1: with their results, more than quietly, I think. Another viewer
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Speaker 1: says it's the perfect time for one nation. The people
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Speaker 1: are sick of the constant failures of the liberals and labor,
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Speaker 1: and another viewer says South Australia has sent a message
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Speaker 1: to the nation that they have. Indeed that they have.
48:39
Speaker 1: But will the coalition listen? We shall find out, no
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Speaker 1: doubt Peter Quadlam will have some views here.
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Speaker 2: She is