Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Michael Hasselberg, Chief Digital Health Officer at UR Medicine
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- 0:29This is Gracelyn Keller with the Rutgers Healthcare
- 0:31Podcast, and we are live at the 9th
- 0:33Annual Health IT Digital Health and RCM Conference.
- 0:36I'm currently joined by Michael Hasselberg, who is
- 0:39the chief digital health officer at UR Medicine.
- 0:42Michael, thanks so much for joining me today.
- 0:44We'd love to have you introduce yourself a
- 0:46little bit further as we get started. Well,
- 0:48thanks for having me. Excited to be here.
- 0:50Hello, everyone. Michael Hasselberg.
- 0:52First and foremost, I'm a nurse, a psychiatric
- 0:55nurse practitioner.
- 0:56I started my career in a very rural
- 0:59part of New York state where I was
- 1:01the only
- 1:02psych provider for about 6 counties. So became
- 1:04very passionate about how do we get high
- 1:07quality care out to underserved patient populations. Ended
- 1:10up going on
- 1:12to get a doctorate, then a business background
- 1:14after that, and I I currently serve as
- 1:17the chief digital health officer for University of
- 1:19Rochester Medicine.
- 1:21Those who are not familiar with UR Medicine,
- 1:24we are a large academic health system,
- 1:26in upstate New York, the largest health system
- 1:29outside of the New York City. And in
- 1:31my role, I oversee the digital transformation and
- 1:34innovation strategies.
- 1:36Wonderful. Well, thanks for being here. And we're
- 1:38gonna start our conversation
- 1:40with AI adoption. This is
- 1:42exploding in health care, as you know. So
- 1:45in your view, what is the most significant
- 1:46or promising application of this technology,
- 1:49and how is that informing your organization's innovation
- 1:52strategy?
- 1:53Love the question. I don't think we could
- 1:55ever go with a conversation these days without
- 1:57talking about AI, so thank you for for
- 1:59bringing it up. You know, one of the
- 2:01things that I think is super
- 2:04exciting in terms of,
- 2:06AI applications
- 2:07are the actual generative AI foundation models themselves.
- 2:11So not any specific tool,
- 2:13not any specific
- 2:14application
- 2:15off of these foundation models, but just the
- 2:17foundation models. You know? I think
- 2:20that having access as a health system to
- 2:22these foundation models is essentially a game changer.
- 2:25It's it's level setting. It's never been easier
- 2:29for a health system like mine to develop
- 2:32our own AI tools using our own data
- 2:34building off of these pretrained
- 2:37large models that were already trained by
- 2:40big industry corporations.
- 2:42And so, you know, for an innovation team
- 2:45like mine, you know, we are now developing
- 2:47our own AI tools
- 2:49in a development
- 2:50time that has gone from 6 months to
- 2:52a year to essentially days at this point.
- 2:56And switching gears just slightly
- 2:58over to data,
- 3:00we're seeing health care leaders managing greater volumes
- 3:02of data and more devices on a growing
- 3:05number of care settings and population. So this
- 3:08complex environment that has kind of popped up,
- 3:11I'd love to know what your clinical data
- 3:14integration tools or practices that you're seeing drive
- 3:17improvements in patient outcomes, and if you could
- 3:20share an specific example of that as well.
- 3:23Yeah. You know, I think, you know, one
- 3:25of the the biggest wins thus far, specifically
- 3:29let's just stay with AI for a second,
- 3:31generative AI. It's forced health systems to make
- 3:35investments in their data infrastructure. And, you know,
- 3:38not to say that we didn't
- 3:40have investments in data infrastructure prior, but now
- 3:42it's even more important that we have a
- 3:45robust enterprise data warehouse
- 3:48that, you know, we have cleaned and curated,
- 3:50and that we have a governance process,
- 3:54over our data. So in terms of kind
- 3:56of best practices,
- 3:57you know, we have spent a lot of
- 3:59time specifically over this last year,
- 4:01you know, setting up what our data governance
- 4:04process is and, you know, essentially then on
- 4:06top of that, putting an an
- 4:09AI governance council together starting at the university
- 4:12level then down to the health system. And
- 4:14that's allowed us to really unleash our data
- 4:17and drive insights into our health system.
- 4:21And as we discuss data and AI and
- 4:25technological innovation,
- 4:27I'm curious your thoughts on how health care
- 4:29organizations
- 4:30can better support both IT and clinical teams
- 4:33as we're carrying out innovation efforts. And what
- 4:35are some common pitfalls that you've seen in
- 4:38this?
- 4:39You know, I'll I'll start with the pitfalls.
- 4:41You know, one of the things that,
- 4:44is, I think, pretty common across health care
- 4:47is silos.
- 4:48You know, we have a lot of,
- 4:51disciplines,
- 4:52you know, that work in silos,
- 4:54and what silos create is essentially groupthink. And
- 4:58groupthink is
- 4:59the downfall of all innovation,
- 5:02in my opinion. You know, one of
- 5:04the things that is unique about University of
- 5:07Rochester Medicine is we're one of only a
- 5:09handful of academic medical centers left in the
- 5:12country that is still fully integrated into our
- 5:14parent university. And so when we think of
- 5:16innovation,
- 5:17we have a very diverse
- 5:20group of thinkers around the table where we've
- 5:22essentially broken down those silos. And I have,
- 5:25you know, faculty from my engineering school and
- 5:28computer science department and data sciences to even
- 5:30faculty from my music school
- 5:32sitting
- 5:34elbow to elbow with faculty from my medical
- 5:37school, dental school, and nursing school. And it's
- 5:39when you have that diverse thought process that
- 5:42we can really come up with some out
- 5:43of the box
- 5:45innovations to solve some of the most pressing
- 5:47problems within our health system.
- 5:50And as we wrap our conversation today, I'd
- 5:52love to know your top piece of advice
- 5:54for health care leaders as we prepare for
- 5:56further advancements in technology and greater demands for
- 5:59care.
- 6:00You know, be okay with failure.
- 6:03Just be able to fail fast. You know,
- 6:06this technology is
- 6:08is moving at such rapid pace, and there's
- 6:11so much that we don't know about it.
- 6:12And when we go in and test these
- 6:14tools and applications within the health system,
- 6:17we're bound to have failures. But to be
- 6:19okay with that, because it's from learning from
- 6:22those failures that we can really develop the
- 6:25solutions that are are are gonna drive improvements
- 6:27to our patient outcomes
- 6:29and outcomes for our clinicians delivering that care.
- 6:33Absolutely. Well, thanks so much for joining me
- 6:36today on the Becker's healthcare podcast. Again, we
- 6:38are live at the 9th annual health IT
- 6:41digital health and RCM conference.
- 6:43Thank you for having me. It's a lot
- 6:45of fun.