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11-2 H2: Gregg Bell Joins, Fact or Fiction & Seahawks O vs. Bears D · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Greg.
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Speaker 3: How are you?
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Speaker 1: Good, sir.
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Speaker 3: I'm sick, but I'm all right.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man, it's continued. I know you were kind of
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Speaker 2: battling something at the end of last week, so the
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Speaker 2: weekend didn't help you?
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Speaker 3: No, it didn't. Oh, no. Oh, no.
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Speaker 2: Well, I hope you're feeling better. And so will you
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Speaker 2: still be able to go to the game tonight, this evening?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I've missed a game for health.
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Speaker 3: I'm old, but I'm not that old.
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Speaker 4: All right, that's great.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're happy to still have our chief Seahawks beat
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Speaker 2: reporter on site there for a big Seahawks-Bears game. game
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Speaker 2: tonight on Monday Night Football. I mean, just a lengthy
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Speaker 2: injury report, Greg. So, I mean, where do I start?
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Speaker 2: Let's start with the running back situation. It seems like,
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Speaker 2: from what I was reading, it was a little confusing
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Speaker 2: on what the wording was. The Seahawks have yet to
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Speaker 2: activate Jadarian Price, but he is expected to play. Is
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Speaker 2: that the correct way to characterize that?
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Speaker 3: Expected to carry a lot of weight there, but yeah,
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Speaker 3: he's still not on the active roster. He's He was
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Speaker 3: designated to return from practice off injured reserve. That's a
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Speaker 3: 21-day window that began last week. Before he can play,
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Speaker 3: he would have to be activated from injured reserve to
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Speaker 3: the active roster. That would mean someone would have to
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Speaker 3: come off to 53. And on a Monday night game,
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Speaker 3: you have until 1 o'clock on the Monday to do that.
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Speaker 3: So you can take up to game day to do that. Actually,
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Speaker 3: now that I think about it, it might even be
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Speaker 3: up to 90 minutes before kickoff for a Monday night game.
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Speaker 3: So if he plays, there'll be a roster move today
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Speaker 3: that'll take someone off the 53 and put Price on it.
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Speaker 3: If they don't make that roster move, obviously he won't play,
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Speaker 3: and everyone who's on the 53 will stay on the
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Speaker 3: 53 now. The obvious candidate would be Phyllis Jones Jr.,
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Speaker 3: the running back who was injured in the Chiefs game,
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Speaker 3: and he would be a candidate to go on injured reserve.
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Speaker 3: He's already been declared out with the hamstring issue for
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Speaker 3: this game. So it would be a one-for-one easy swap
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Speaker 3: of running backs if they put Jones on injured reserve
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Speaker 3: and activate Price. The other issue was with Zach Charbonnet,
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Speaker 3: who you could look at it on its surface, the
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Speaker 3: injury report doesn't even have Charbonnet on it, so he's
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Speaker 3: full go. He was a full participant in practice all week.
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Speaker 3: But he was a full participant all last week, too,
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Speaker 3: and then was inactive for the game. Mike McDonald said
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Speaker 3: Saturday that he's, quote, they have a plan for Charbonnet,
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Speaker 3: which is the same thing he said before they made
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Speaker 3: him inactive for the Chiefs game. So I don't know
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Speaker 3: exactly what to read into that. It would seem like
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Speaker 3: after another week and now... a month of practicing that
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Speaker 3: Charbonnet would be ready, but that's easy for me to say.
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Speaker 3: I haven't had my knee reconstructed nine months ago. So
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Speaker 3: on a grand scheme, this is still early. It's an
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Speaker 3: eight to 12 months injury. He's nine months into it.
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Speaker 3: It's up in the air whether Charbonnet would play tonight,
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Speaker 3: but the possibility does exist. Both Price and Charbonnet will
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Speaker 3: play tonight and be back.
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Speaker 4: Well, to summarize then, Greg, just use your hunches and
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Speaker 4: your sources and and establish a probability for each of those,
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Speaker 4: the probability Price is active and in the backfield carrying
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Speaker 4: the football tonight at least once, probability of that, and
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Speaker 4: then separately the probability of Charbonnet. We won't hold you
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Speaker 4: to it, but just where's your gut right now?
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Speaker 3: Okay. Thank you. My gut would say it's probably a 60%
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Speaker 3: chance that Price plays and more like a 70% to 80%
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Speaker 3: chance that Charbonnet plays, maybe even higher than 80%. But
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Speaker 3: Charbonnet plays if I had to be pinned down.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, let's continue going down the practice report here.
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Speaker 2: Looks like Chenin Owosu is doubtful. What's the report and
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Speaker 2: the update there?
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Speaker 3: Well, he hasn't practiced this past week from the injury
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Speaker 3: he got against the Chiefs, which is why they put
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Speaker 3: him on the doubtful. If you don't fully practice during
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Speaker 3: the week, in his case, didn't participate at all in
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Speaker 3: all three practice days. doubtful for the Seahawks has pretty
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Speaker 3: much been out in the last, under John Schneider, basically,
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Speaker 3: the last 17 years. So, yeah, that means Derek Hall
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Speaker 3: and Demarcus Lawrence will probably play more downs than they're using.
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Speaker 3: Lawrence often rotates in early downs and with Nwosu for
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Speaker 3: run support, and it probably will be more Lawrence tonight.
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Speaker 3: Let's go down the list. Doubtfuls and The questionable on
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Speaker 3: Brandon Peely, back issue, defensive nose tackle. Charles Cross is
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Speaker 3: out at left tackle. That means Josh Jones, the veteran
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Speaker 3: swing tackle, that's why they have him, will start at
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Speaker 3: left tackle. He replaced Cross in the second half against
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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Jones played really well at the end of
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Speaker 3: last season when Cross missed three games. They got what
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Speaker 3: they wanted out of him. I didn't think Jones had
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Speaker 3: the best training camp when I saw him every single day.
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Speaker 3: And there were a couple times that I thought he
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Speaker 3: lost some reps, actually, than you would expect from a
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Speaker 3: veteran who started in the NFL. But he played well,
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Speaker 3: and they liked what they saw replacing Cross last week.
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Speaker 3: So he'll start a left tackle. So that means three
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Speaker 3: new positions in the offensive line tonight. Left tackle, the
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Speaker 3: new left guard, of course. Quentin Nelson will make his
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Speaker 3: Seahawks debut tonight. And Gray Zabel will be over at
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Speaker 3: right guard for the first time since he was a
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Speaker 3: freshman at North Dakota State.
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Speaker 4: Well, let's stay there. We had the press conference with
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Speaker 4: Quentin Nelson. I think Gray Zabel also addressed the media,
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Speaker 4: but what's your sense of, you know, the big adjustment
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Speaker 4: is Gray Zabel over at right guard, and then it
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Speaker 4: just so happens Jeffrey Simmons, the position that he lines
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Speaker 4: up over the most, at least if the numbers carry
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Speaker 4: out the way they did thus far this season, is
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Speaker 4: over the right guard, Zabel's new spot. So what can
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Speaker 4: you tell us about his state of readiness?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, everything's got to flip now. So it's far
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Speaker 3: more mental than physical. He's now got a set with
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Speaker 3: his opposite foot, and he's punching with his opposite lead
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Speaker 3: hand and all of that. It's not that it's foreign
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Speaker 3: to him, but it's unfamiliar. And Simmons will test anything
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Speaker 3: that you have to hesitate on. I've said this before, Hugh,
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Speaker 3: but in the two of the last three summers that
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Speaker 3: they've come back to Tennessee for joint practices, the linemen
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Speaker 3: have come out of those joint practices saying, man, that's Simmons' guy.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he was a problem in those practices, which
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Speaker 3: are basically games for the ones versus ones, far more
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Speaker 3: than a preseason game. And Simmons dominated. He was all
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Speaker 3: in Seattle's backfield. Both those joint practices, again, this summer,
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Speaker 3: was the same thing. He was wolfing at them the
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Speaker 3: whole time, telling them it was too hot for them,
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Speaker 3: and they were wilting, and they were quitting. And this
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Speaker 3: rabble-rouser guy, as accomplished as he is, 30 years old,
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Speaker 3: he's going to be an issue tonight for anybody. If
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Speaker 3: Zabel was playing left guard in Seattle, Whoever they had
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Speaker 3: a right guard, it'd be a problem. Now Zabel moves over. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Quinn Nelson joked, I was pretty happy to get out
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Speaker 3: of the AFC South, not having to deal with Simmons
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Speaker 3: in Tennessee when I was with the Colts. And then
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Speaker 3: he goes all the way to Seattle and Simmons follows
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Speaker 3: him here, too. Going to be an issue tonight, for sure.
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Speaker 3: Jalen Sandell and the both guards, they've got a problem.
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Speaker 2: Let's continue with the injuries here. Rasheed Shaheed has already
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Speaker 2: been declared out, so is it as simple as Torrey
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Speaker 2: Horton steps into his role, both in the offense and
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Speaker 2: on special teams, Greg?
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Speaker 3: Yep. Horton will get the kick returns tonight. Chris asked
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Speaker 3: me last week on one of the 7 o'clock appearances
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Speaker 3: about losing Shaheed's production at wide receiver, and I said,
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Speaker 3: will anyone notice? It has just not been there. The
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Speaker 3: return on investment has not been there. Hugh and I
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Speaker 3: have talked about it during roundtables. It Horton coming in,
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Speaker 3: if they throw to him three or four times and
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Speaker 3: he catches one or two passes, that'll kind of be
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Speaker 3: Shahid's norm so far this season. It speaks to what
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Speaker 3: Shahid has not done in the offense, that this is
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Speaker 3: a bit part of tonight's game, that Shahid's not going
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Speaker 3: to be able to play.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and then following up to that, what kind of
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Speaker 2: timeline are we expecting with him? Is this a longer-term thing?
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Speaker 2: Are they kind of floating with putting him on IR,
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Speaker 2: or is this just a maybe one- or two-week thing?
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Speaker 3: Well, they've said so far not injured reserve, but that's...
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Speaker 3: McDonald being vague knee issue, unspecified knee issue of how,
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Speaker 3: what exactly it is and how severe. So, but he
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Speaker 3: has said so far that they don't think it's an
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Speaker 3: injured reserve thing.
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Speaker 4: Greg Bell with us reporting on the Seahawks and their
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Speaker 4: readiness for tonight's Monday night football matchup. Greg, I'm going
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Speaker 4: to ask you about a guy that I hope this
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Speaker 4: is the most insignificant question and insignificant story that imaginable
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Speaker 4: but but drew lock uh what's his status i assume
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Speaker 4: it's his ucl is ulnar collateral ligament on his inside
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Speaker 4: elbow it's almost always that ligament when quarterbacks have a
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Speaker 4: an elbow problem but um how how concerned are the
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Speaker 4: seahawks about drew lock and do we have it right
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Speaker 4: at a if God forbid, let's not speak it in
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Speaker 4: the universe, Sam Darnold is unavailable, then it would be
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Speaker 4: Jalen Milrow tonight. Just give us an update on Drew Locke.
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Speaker 3: If it's what it was against the Chiefs, and I
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Speaker 3: think it's going to be, Drew Locke's going to be
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Speaker 3: inactive and as the emergency third quarterback, as Milrow usually
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Speaker 3: will be. So Locke will be in uniform. The emergency
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Speaker 3: third quarterback stays in uniform, but is inactive in that
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Speaker 3: he can only play if the other two don't or can't.
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Speaker 3: So Milrow, I'm expecting to be the number two when
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Speaker 3: I talked to Drew Locke just in passing in Denver
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Speaker 3: after the game first I was talking to him about
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Speaker 3: why he was coming onto the field and relaying plays
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Speaker 3: to Sam Darnold in Denver and then I asked him
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Speaker 3: about his elbow and he said yeah it's been barking
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Speaker 3: for a And it just hasn't gotten right yet. And
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Speaker 3: I don't have to tell a former NFL and Washington
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Speaker 3: Huskies quarterback about how important a throwing elbow is to
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Speaker 3: throwing a football. So he was limited in practice all week.
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Speaker 3: Limited meaning that he probably wasn't even doing much of
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Speaker 3: the scout team stuff. So it would probably, if I
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Speaker 3: had to guess, he's going to be the emergency third
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Speaker 3: quarterback tonight. Not great timing for him if he would
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Speaker 3: get pressed, if he would need it. So let's say
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Speaker 3: Darnold got hurt, it would not be great for him.
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Speaker 3: Because Drew Locke's in the contract here. And are those
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Speaker 3: two games he played at the start of the season
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Speaker 3: enough for him to find a new job somewhere as
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Speaker 3: a potential starter? That's probably what's going through his mind
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Speaker 3: right now.
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Speaker 2: Last one here for Greg Bell. Has there been any
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Speaker 2: other rumblings of Seahawks continuing to look to improve in
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Speaker 2: the trade market? Or does that seem like they're kind
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Speaker 2: of standing pat at this point from what you're hearing?
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Speaker 3: No, they're not standing pat. And John Schneider's making calls,
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Speaker 3: and he always does. And he prides himself on being
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Speaker 3: in on everything, finding out if the Colts really do
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Speaker 3: want to move Jonathan Taylor, for instance. Is that a
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Speaker 3: smoke-fire thing, or is it just smoke? They still have
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Speaker 3: the collateral to trade. They have 10 picks after giving
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Speaker 3: up a third-round pick next year, part of the Quentin
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Speaker 3: Nelson deal, a third in 27 and a fifth-round pick
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Speaker 3: in 28. But their war chest, their cachet of, Draft
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Speaker 3: capital is still large enough if they do want to
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Speaker 3: make a trade. I don't expect one. I expect more, perhaps,
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Speaker 3: of a free agent signing at a running back. I'm
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Speaker 3: just throwing this name out there, but I don't have
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Speaker 3: any reason to believe it's him. But a Najee Harris type,
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Speaker 3: someone who has had success in the past, who has
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Speaker 3: health issues, which is why teams are scared away from him.
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Speaker 3: He just got cut by the Giants a couple weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: Those kind of low-cost, no-risk, if it doesn't work out
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Speaker 3: or he's not healthy enough, will just release some type
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Speaker 3: of deals, I think, where they might go a running
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Speaker 3: back because... of getting Price and Charbonnet back. Now, I
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Speaker 3: would caution that just because Charbonnet is coming back doesn't
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Speaker 3: mean it's plug and play, 20 carries, 12 rushing touchdowns
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Speaker 3: from last year. The guy's coming off a knee reconstruction
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Speaker 3: at a position where you have to have lateral movement.
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Speaker 3: It's already the most injured position in the sport. This
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Speaker 3: is going to be a ramp-up thing. I'm still thinking
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Speaker 3: he has maybe a half-dozen carries in his first game
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Speaker 3: or two. And if Price needs a ramp-up too... You
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Speaker 3: can still see a lot of Emmanuel Wilson tonight. Upper
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Speaker 3: rib issue is what John Schneider said it was for Price.
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Speaker 3: I just don't think it's going to be the Price-Sharbonnet
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Speaker 3: show the first time those guys are back on the field.
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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate the insights from Greg Bell. What do
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Speaker 2: you got coming up on your show a little bit
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Speaker 2: later today? I heard you have your normal co-host and
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Speaker 2: producer out for this week, huh? She's leaving you hanging?
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Speaker 3: She is. She's got family out in Hawaii, so she
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Speaker 3: went straight from The Cougs game in San Diego to Hawaii.
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Speaker 3: Travis Moger is going to be in with me all week.
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Speaker 3: You're going to hear from Al Kaninsky about the big
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Speaker 3: Kraken trade and moving out of one of the centers
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Speaker 3: of the future, they thought, to Nashville. We'll talk about
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Speaker 3: what this Kraken are getting in that trade last night.
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about the Huskies and the return. I'm sure
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Speaker 3: Hugh has talked about DeMond Williams' resurrection back into the
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Speaker 3: starting quarterback job. And, of course, we'll have a ton
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Speaker 3: to talk about. I'll be doing it from Jimmy's right
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Speaker 3: across the street from the game. So we'll have a
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Speaker 3: ton to talk about about the Seahawks and the Bears tonight,
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Speaker 3: including more on this running back situation. Awesome.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Greg. We'll be listening at 10 o'clock. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: to you soon.
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Speaker 3: Thanks guys.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate that.
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Speaker 3: Feel better. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Feel better, Greg, for sure. That's a, that's something that's a,
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Speaker 2: you know, you know, don't want to be dealing with.
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Speaker 2: And I know as a beat reporter, you, if you're
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Speaker 2: in mid season, you can't really stop. Like it's, it's
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Speaker 2: just how it goes at this point at this time
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Speaker 2: of the year.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Uh, coming up next, as we just heard from Greg, well,
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Speaker 2: Hugh and I are going to discuss kind of what
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Speaker 2: the running game looks like. Um, you know, if Charbonnet
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Speaker 2: and Price are healthy, what does that look like? What
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Speaker 2: kind of timeshare are we looking for here? Is it
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Speaker 2: getting healthy in just the right time? We'll discuss this
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Speaker 2: next with Hugh Millen on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM. Should
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Speaker 2: be an interesting matchup. Hugh, let's talk about that running
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Speaker 2: back situation that we just heard from Greg last segment.
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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to the thought process that we might
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Speaker 2: be getting both, you know, our one and two running
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Speaker 2: backs in Jadarian Price and Zach Charbonnet back for this game?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Greg's assessment that it's more probable than
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Speaker 4: not that they'll play. I.
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Speaker 4: I also agree with him that don't expect it to
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Speaker 4: be the full experience from either of them because they're
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Speaker 4: working their way back, particularly with Charbonnet. I think that
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Speaker 4: it's likely to be the upper rib issue. You shoot
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Speaker 4: it up. You put an extra pad. You still have
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Speaker 4: your legs. I think for price, I'm less concerned, I think,
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Speaker 4: with Charbonnet. You know, who is Zach Charbonnet? I mean,
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Speaker 4: he tore not one but two ligaments. So, you know,
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Speaker 4: there's obviously the physical healing of it, but he's got
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Speaker 4: to break through some mental barriers too in terms of,
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Speaker 4: you know, just the type of cuts he's willing to
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Speaker 4: put on that knee. So, yeah, Seattle needs those guys.
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Speaker 4: At least, you know, I think more price than Charbonnet,
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Speaker 4: certainly in my mind.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 4: They'll never reach their potential as presently constituted with the
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Speaker 4: running backs. I don't think that is a controversial statement. And,
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Speaker 4: you know, you've got the added paradox, in my opinion,
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Speaker 4: you know, the Seahawks, they run outside zone at, you know,
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Speaker 4: that's their scheme. As a percentage, they're sixth most in
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Speaker 4: the NFL. But then with the pin and pulls and
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Speaker 4: the way things bounce, Their outside run percentage, which is
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Speaker 4: different than outside zone. Outside zone is the particular– wide
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Speaker 4: zone is a particular scheme that might not get outside.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 4: It might cut up and be right over the center.
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Speaker 4: So when I say running outside zone, that's a play. Right.
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Speaker 4: Outside run is where the ball eventually fits. Does that
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Speaker 4: make sense?
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Speaker 3: Totally.
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Speaker 4: So there's a distinction there. Seattle's number one in the
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Speaker 4: NFL in outside runs. That's exactly 54%. And yet, inside zone,
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Speaker 4: they're 19th in the NFL. A concept the football coaches
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Speaker 4: will nod when I say this duo, which is like
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Speaker 4: gaps blocked down on the strong side, but instead of
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Speaker 4: pulling the backside guard, you just double team. And so
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Speaker 4: a lot of double teams. It's right down Broadway. It's
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Speaker 4: right at the middle. Seattle, with Emmanuel Wilson, as their
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Speaker 4: primary back, they should be majoring in that concept. They're
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Speaker 4: 29th in the league. So, so a little bit of
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Speaker 4: their decisions with the scheme, you know, it's, it's as
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Speaker 4: if they say, Hey, we want to be a wide
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Speaker 4: team regardless of who's getting the ball.
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Speaker 3: Hmm.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I agree with that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. How much does Quentin Nelson help with that? He
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Speaker 2: comes in and, you know, obviously one of the best
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Speaker 2: guards in the league, if not the best. Do they
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Speaker 2: change kind of, okay, now we can go inside a
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Speaker 2: little bit more?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think you can run inside or you can
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Speaker 4: run outside. I think that he can run any scheme.
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Speaker 4: I mean, in my study now, I mentioned outside zone
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Speaker 4: percentage that Seattle's sixth. Well, the Colts are seventh.
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Speaker 3: Right there.
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Speaker 4: So, you know, and then, and then, uh, where Seattle, uh, is, uh,
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Speaker 4: inside zone there, they are 19th, uh, scanning, um, list, uh,
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Speaker 4: is hard on the right. Oh, they're 29th. So, so he's, he's,
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Speaker 4: he's has the, the experience. He can do anything. I'm, I'm,
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Speaker 4: I'm not worried about that. You, and by the way,
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Speaker 4: it's not just running over the top of him to
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Speaker 4: the left. Um, but, running to the wide zone to
18:32
Speaker 4: the right. And with Price, I think the very first
18:36
Speaker 4: play of the season was an outside zone to the
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Speaker 4: right that cut back all the way to the C-gap
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Speaker 4: on the left. And part of what makes those cutbacks
18:50
Speaker 4: is the backside blocking, where you've got the athleticism by
18:55
Speaker 4: by Quentin Nelson able to get up on a linebacker
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Speaker 4: and seal that backside to allow those cutbacks. So don't
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Speaker 4: just be looking for the runs to the left. Quentin
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Speaker 4: Nelson could be very key on some of the runs
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Speaker 4: that initially start to the right but cut back.
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Speaker 5: All right. Go ahead and give me the Seahawks minus
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Speaker 5: three at home versus the Bears.
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Speaker 2: First pick of the week. You have every game to
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Speaker 2: pick from and you pick this one. OK, why?
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Speaker 5: Defense wins championships. And I think that this defense is
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Speaker 5: going to do a really good job against Caleb Williams
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Speaker 5: and the Chicago Bears. I just got to trust their defense.
20:51
Speaker 5: That's kind of what it comes down to. JSN's been playing.
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Speaker 4: Really good football.
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Speaker 5: Can he continue?
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Speaker 4: Probably. We'll find out.
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Speaker 5: But I do think one thing that is consistent or
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Speaker 5: constant is the Seahawks defense, and I think they'll have
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Speaker 5: a great showing again. I just need them to win
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Speaker 5: by four or more. If that's a lot to ask for,
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Speaker 5: maybe it is. But I believe in this Mike McDonald
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Speaker 5: defense and what they got going on. So go ahead
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Speaker 5: and give me the Seahawks minus three at home versus
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Speaker 2: Huey, how do you feel about that one?
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Speaker 4: I love it.
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Speaker 2: That's great.
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Speaker 4: That's great.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: CX over bears.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Uh, now, now that may, may be my heart here,
21:29
Speaker 4: but how many points, what's three points.
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Speaker 2: So they have to win by four or more.
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Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, let's go with it.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I, I, um, I am really eager to see
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Speaker 4: this Ben Johnson, uh, Mike McDonald matchup. I mean, that's
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Speaker 4: worth the price of admission. So, uh, but, but yes, I'm,
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Speaker 4: I am, uh, But my heart and my head are
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Speaker 2: I think what we saw last week from the Seahawks
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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs proved to be real. Now, I do
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Speaker 2: think this is a step up. In an opponent, I
22:33
Speaker 2: know everyone likes to look at what Ken Walker's done,
22:36
Speaker 2: and obviously Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid as lethal a
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Speaker 2: combination as it gets in terms of what the defense
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Speaker 2: is going against, but as Hugh Millen pointed out there,
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Speaker 2: that is as good as it gets. Ben Johnson versus...
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald and this, this offense when Caleb Williams has
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Speaker 2: played with the bears has looked about as good as
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Speaker 2: any of them in the NFL.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, that is what factor fiction for today. We'll come back.
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Speaker 2: And the, the matchup we just talked about has been
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Speaker 2: what everyone's talking about, but I want to get to
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Speaker 2: the other side of the ball. I want to talk
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Speaker 2: about Brian Flory and the Seahawks offense versus Dennis Allen
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Speaker 2: and the bears defense. I want to get huge thoughts from, on,
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of the big parts of that matchup
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Speaker 2: Chuck in the morning. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Anderson Hurst,
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Speaker 2: Football analyst here on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Hugh
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Speaker 2: Millen is with us. Hughie, let's talk about, I mean,
23:52
Speaker 2: not everyone's talking Ben Johnson versus Mike McDonald. And don't worry,
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Speaker 2: we'll dive deeper into that matchup a little bit later
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Speaker 2: on in the show. But I wanted to spend a
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Speaker 2: few minutes now on the other side of the ball.
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Speaker 2: Brian Flory versus Dennis Allen. I think Chicago's defense has
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Speaker 2: actually been a lot better than most have anticipated or
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Speaker 2: anticipated it was going to be going into this year. uh,
24:13
Speaker 2: what kind of grabs your eye on that side of
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Speaker 2: the ball as the matchup that, uh, you know, the
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Speaker 2: non head coaches, uh, are going against each other there?
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Speaker 4: Well, I would say, first of all, you look, you're
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Speaker 4: going to get a lot more opportunities against man to man.
24:28
Speaker 4: I mean, the Seahawks, they're number one in zone percent
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Speaker 4: at 86%. Uh, the Chicago bears are number four in
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Speaker 4: man at 33%. Um, And they are number four in
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Speaker 4: their blitz rate, fourth in the league. So I think
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Speaker 4: a key part of that is obviously how you handle
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Speaker 4: the blitz, but also from a route structure standpoint, motioning
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Speaker 4: and the blitzes, they're expected points added on defense. They're
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Speaker 4: actually worse when they blitz. So they blitz a lot.
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Speaker 4: But they're not great at it, and they don't handle particularly–
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Speaker 4: they haven't really got home, and they haven't really handled routes.
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Speaker 4: So there's going to be some opportunities for some plays
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Speaker 4: against man-to-man and getting the kind of rubs that are
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Speaker 4: likely to happen from those condensed sets, whether they're bunch
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Speaker 4: or whether they're stack formations. I think that's a factor.
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Speaker 4: And without Rashid Shahid and that speed, you know, Torrey
25:38
Speaker 4: Horton has got to step up, I think. And there
25:41
Speaker 4: was a play last week where the Chiefs actually did
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Speaker 4: something that I think more teams should do. They played
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Speaker 4: man-to-man everywhere, except they double-covered. They had two guys on JSN,
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Speaker 4: but not their best guy. Their best guy, they had
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Speaker 4: one-on-one on Torrey Horton.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 4: And so now when Darnold looks, he says, okay, I
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Speaker 4: got bracketed in and out on JSN. Let me go
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Speaker 4: find the single coverage. Now you're going not against their
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Speaker 4: number two or their number three guy. Don't waste your
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Speaker 4: number two or three because you're doubling.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 4: You know, use– use your best cover guy against the
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Speaker 4: next best receiver. So Cooper Cup may have some opportunities
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Speaker 4: to get some picks. There was a choice route that
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Speaker 4: he completed for a big third down conversion against the
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Speaker 4: Chiefs where he broke in on that. If you remember,
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Speaker 4: he got in the wake of a stack formation. I
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Speaker 4: think those type of plays are very important because I
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Speaker 4: don't think Cup can beat man-to-man. I'm certain of it
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Speaker 4: on any regular basis. um, without, without the picks and
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Speaker 4: Tori Horton right now, I can see a difference in
27:05
Speaker 4: how he moves compared to what, you know, he had
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Speaker 4: those surgeries on both his shins, knees, he was out
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Speaker 4: a lot and he, he, he's not where he had been.
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Speaker 4: And so, uh, I'm concerned about his career, quite frankly. Um,
27:20
Speaker 4: now maybe, uh, you know, he'll, he'll, as time passes,
27:24
Speaker 4: he'll get better, but he's gotta be better tonight. because
27:27
Speaker 4: you don't have the running backs that are going to
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Speaker 4: carry the load. So with the out Shaheed and without
27:35
Speaker 4: the running backs, now's the time for Torrey Horton to make,
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Speaker 4: you know, three, four big plays and, and out of
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Speaker 4: man to man, that might be the opportunity to do it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's, he's your number two pass catcher tonight.
27:46
Speaker 2: Obviously JSN is your number one. Um, I guess you
27:49
Speaker 2: could say A.J.
27:49
Speaker 3: Barner.
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Speaker 4: Well, Cup could be, too. Cup as well. And Barner, yeah.
27:55
Speaker 4: You asked me where my eyes are going to be.
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Speaker 4: I think that component of it is really important.
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Speaker 2: It is, yeah. And part of getting those guys' success,
28:07
Speaker 2: it's very... I don't want to say easy, but it's
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Speaker 2: simple to get a receiver like Jackson Smith and Jigba
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Speaker 2: a lot of success. But I think a lot of
28:16
Speaker 2: what else comes in play calling comes from getting your
28:19
Speaker 2: other guys involved. How would you assess what Brian Fleury
28:22
Speaker 2: has been through the first eight weeks of the season?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and just to stop there on JSN, my favorite play,
28:30
Speaker 4: of course, he had the incredible game against the Chiefs.
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Speaker 4: My favorite play that just was an indicator of I
28:37
Speaker 4: don't have the roster ahead of me, but here, JSN
28:42
Speaker 4: lined up in the slot on the left, and they
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Speaker 4: played that man coverage that I just described. They had
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Speaker 4: one free safety deep, and then they had 38, I
28:54
Speaker 4: think it was Laverius Sneed or something, whatever. It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 4: So they had a corner, tried to jam JSN, who
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Speaker 4: was in the slot, And then 17, whatever he was,
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Speaker 4: the safety over the top. So they were two guys.
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Speaker 4: And JSN beat 38 at the line scrim so fast,
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Speaker 4: wrapped over the top. The term is wrap or slip.
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Speaker 4: If you're going to be on the outside and you
29:20
Speaker 4: want to get to the inside, you go over the
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Speaker 4: top of him, that's a wrap. Or you slip him,
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Speaker 4: which is underneath. So he makes the decisions real quick.
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Speaker 4: He beats him so bad that he wraps over the
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Speaker 4: top before 17 could get there. Darnold sees it, quickly
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Speaker 4: gets him the ball on the in-breaking route. 17 can't
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Speaker 4: make the play. Now the free safety, who's in the
29:39
Speaker 4: hole and not responsible, other than the middle of the field,
29:42
Speaker 4: he takes a bad angle and JSN is up the...
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Speaker 4: He started on the left slot, ends up getting 34
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Speaker 4: yards up the right sideline. And you're just going... And
29:53
Speaker 4: it happened so fast. He got so open so fast
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Speaker 4: against double coverage. So that's the kind That's the kind
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Speaker 4: of thing he can do with a little bit of
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Speaker 4: detail there. And so we expect to see that tonight
30:07
Speaker 4: because we see it all the time. But as for Flory,
30:13
Speaker 4: you know, as I said, I don't think they should
30:18
Speaker 4: be running the wide zone as much. I think they
30:21
Speaker 4: should be trying to go inside if they've got Emmanuel Wilson.
30:24
Speaker 4: I think sometimes A.J. Barney has been a little bit
30:26
Speaker 4: too silent. And I think Rashid Shaheed wasn't used properly.
30:31
Speaker 4: So I think he's just kind of finding himself.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
30:35
Speaker 4: You know, there's no question in my mind that the
30:38
Speaker 4: offense would be better with Clint Kubiak right now. But,
30:41
Speaker 4: you know, if my aunt had wheels, she'd be a
30:43
Speaker 4: trolley car. I mean, it's not... He's a head coach
30:47
Speaker 4: for a reason, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 3: So.
30:53
Speaker 4: And so, you know, it is what it is. But
30:57
Speaker 4: I think he's smart. I think he's capable. I think
30:59
Speaker 4: they believe in him in the building. And we still
31:01
Speaker 4: really haven't seen the team constituted in full. So give
31:08
Speaker 4: him a healthy array and then we'll see what's happening.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's an important point to make because
31:13
Speaker 2: everyone wants to draw conclusions right away in the first
31:16
Speaker 2: couple weeks, but we still have not had the running
31:18
Speaker 2: room or the running room, running back room, I should say,
31:21
Speaker 2: that we expected to come to have early in the season. And,
31:25
Speaker 2: you know, now that you got Quentin Nelson, and it
31:27
Speaker 2: seems like there's a good chance that you get both
31:29
Speaker 2: of your top two running backs back tonight, hopefully the
31:32
Speaker 2: offense starts to kind of take a step forward.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it'll be interesting, you know, there'll
31:38
Speaker 4: be reports that'll come about Quentin Nelson, not just, you know,
31:41
Speaker 4: the tangible part of how he blocks as a left guard, but,
31:45
Speaker 4: you know, his leadership, his exacting, you know, I think
31:50
Speaker 4: that it's good to have new people in the building
31:53
Speaker 4: that have important roles who don't have super bowl rings.
31:56
Speaker 5: Right.
31:58
Speaker 4: Uh, because they're just a little, you know, feistier and
32:01
Speaker 4: then their teammates, you know, might be like, Hey, let's
32:04
Speaker 4: get this guy, the ring. Now that's a little bit,
32:07
Speaker 4: it's a little bit early on the calendar for me
32:09
Speaker 4: to be making that point. I should probably hold that
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Speaker 4: off for, you know, January, but, but.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's an element, right? Like Quentin Nelson, when
32:17
Speaker 2: you got traded to Seattle, I was like, okay, now
32:18
Speaker 2: I really have a chance to go win one. And the,
32:21
Speaker 2: the other guys are going to see that, right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: It's, it's not a primary factor, but, but I, you know,
32:28
Speaker 4: last year you had some relatively long in the tooth
32:31
Speaker 4: defensive ends and what have you, you know, that's a
32:34
Speaker 4: hustle position. That's a, that's a want to position, you know,
32:38
Speaker 4: playing on the defensive line, you know, and, and, and
32:41
Speaker 4: so they were the oldest defensive position group on the
32:44
Speaker 4: team was the defensive line. And, uh, and yet they
32:48
Speaker 4: were playing for rings. And so having somebody that, that
32:52
Speaker 4: everybody respects, uh, that is playing for his own ring,
32:58
Speaker 4: You know, I think that can help for sure.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, we've waited long enough. I can't wait to pick
33:03
Speaker 2: the brain of Hugh Millen on this matchup. He's going
33:07
Speaker 2: to tell me if I'm crazy first. And the question
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Speaker 2: on if I'm crazy is, is this the biggest test
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Speaker 2: yet for Mike McDonald's defense this season, even after facing
33:17
Speaker 2: the Niners, even after facing Andy Reid? and the Chiefs
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Speaker 2: last week. Is this an even bigger test for Mike
33:24
Speaker 2: McDonald's defense? We'll find out if Hugh Millen thinks so
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Speaker 2: next on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.